Preseason Game 2: Blazers 89, Kings 86
by Ben. on Oct 7, 2009 10:10 PM PDT
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The Blazers held on to beat the Kings down in Sacramento in front of an estimated 6,500 fans.
Greg Oden (20 and 12) beasted again, forcing Jason Thompson to foul out. Brian Wheeler made it sound like Jerryd Bayless (11 and 2 assists) had a good night. LaMarcus Aldridge (3 and 3) apparently loaned his rhythm to Brandon Roy (13 and 5 assists) for the evening.
Sergio Rodriguez had a shot at redemption but threw the ball away and missed a 3 pointer on the Kings's final two possessions after sitting for the first 3.5 quarters of the game. Weird.
The Blazers move to 2-0 on the preseason. Two steps closer to a completely unprecedented completely undefeated completely championship season.
Here are your video highlights courtesy of NBA.com.
Jason Quick writes...
In two preseason games, Oden is leading the Blazers in scoring (19.0 average) and rebounding (10.5) while hitting 11 of 20 shots from the field and 16 of 19 free throws.
But it is so much more than just statistics. Oden looks good.
In the preseason opener, he completed a spin move that left Sacramento center Spencer Hawes off-balance and guarding air. On Wednesday, he showed both power and agility, once powering through Kenny Thomas for a two-handed dunk, then later tipping an offensive rebound to himself through two defenders. Once he corralled the ball, he spun and completed a delicate left-handed layup in traffic.
Matt Steinmetz on Fanhouse writes...
"Starting is something that will show I've had a great summer," Oden said before Portland's exhibition game against the Sacramento Kings on Wednesday. "And it will mean that I deserve to be a starter in this league. I want to show everyone the work that I've put in."
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"The player will make that decision," McMillan said about who will start between Oden and Joel Przybilla. "I've always been a coach who if you earn it, you get it. He knew at the end of last season that at the start of training camp he wouldn't be at that starting center spot. I wanted to see him hungry. He's been hungry to become a starter. ... He's coming in working for it."
Here's the Associated Press recap...
After averaging only 8.9 points in an injury-shortened rookie season, Oden had 18 points and nine rebounds in Tuesday's exhibition opener at home against the Kings. He was even better a night later against a Kings team without starting center Spencer Hawes, who was out with anankle sprain. He shot 7 of 13 and made 6 of 7 free throws in 26 minutes.
Here are some postgame quotes from the Kings' Full Court Press Blog.
Nate McMillan on Greg Oden's progress:
"He's in better shape than last year. Last year, he came in off the injury and he didn't know how he wanted to come into the league to start his year. He wanted to be bulky because he wanted to be a physical player. He realized that after being in the NBA for a year that being a little lighter is better so he's dropped about fourteen or fifteen pounds. He is lighter than he was at the start of training camp last year and I think that has helped him. We've talked about being light is better when you play an 82 game schedule. He's moving much better, he's worked all summer long to come into camp mentally and physically ready to go."
Kings.com also has some postgame video clips.
Tom Ziller sees aliens...
I believe that it is worth questioning whether Sergio Rodriguez is truly devoted to theSacramento Kings.
You have the opportunity to hang a bomb on your old captors, and you miss ... what kind of King are you? For those who have not read the recaps, a mini-run sparked by defense and Omri Casspi left the Kings behind three in the closing seconds. With a chance to send the game to overtime, Sergio clanked a three from the top of the key.
He clanked the shot, despite having just come into the game a few minutes prior and despite being a poor deep shooter. I mean, that just screams conspiracy, doesn't it?
The truth is out there.
-- Ben (benjamin.golliver@gmail.com)
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UNPRECEDENTED WHAT?????
Whatever
thetinfoil@gmail.com
by TheTinfoil on Oct 7, 2009 10:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
the admin was spazzing like crazy. refresh the post. hopefully the screwed up formatting and whatnot is gone now. sorry about that
by Ben. on Oct 7, 2009 10:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
=) I missed the play by play
Wheeler was playing games with our head by not mentioning Travis until the post game show
Whatever
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by TheTinfoil on Oct 7, 2009 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
NBA highlights = Selfish
"Is it always like this?" Collins said after the scrimmage. "It was like the first game of the NBA playoffs or something."
by Y5k on Oct 7, 2009 10:16 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Donell Taylor and Shavlik Randolph get DNP - Coaches decision from ESPN...
At least they didn’t call Travis “Bo”.
http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=291007023
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by bforsythe on Oct 7, 2009 10:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I noticed that ESPN Listed Hawes as a DNP- sprained ankle
or did they really mean ego. Greg seems to be hard on opposing centers: The last three he faced Mutumbo, Yao and now Hawes all out with injury.
by NWfan on Oct 7, 2009 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did I miss something? or...
Tonight’s Yahoo! box score is listing Shav as playing for us tonight… Did we resign him or something?
Blazers win!
by The X-man on Oct 8, 2009 1:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blazers fans go crazy . . .
over undefeated pre-season ! Highlights at 11:00.
Page two – Blazer fans get a taste of life in Southern Oregon.
No TV !
COINCAST SUCKS !! JUST SIGN A DEAL ALREADY !!!!
It's GO time !
by walkoff41 on Oct 7, 2009 10:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
And I got my 1/4 season tickets today
Awesome day, GO BLAZERS!
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
by skywaker9 on Oct 7, 2009 10:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Bayless outplayed Miller on the stats. Miller looks plain bad on defense in all five relevent seconds in those highlights.
*Unless KP has a secret plan that makes this statement incorrect.
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by staylost on Oct 7, 2009 10:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He stole a pass that...
…prevented the King’s from tying the game in the fourth quarter. Haven’t you heard? Andre hating is SO three days ago…
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by bforsythe on Oct 7, 2009 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Outlaw does that sort of stuff all the time.
And we know that it doesn’t make up for his defensive mishaps earlier in the game.
*Unless KP has a secret plan that makes this statement incorrect.
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by staylost on Oct 7, 2009 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
bayless out-dunked Miller too
Is Miller too old to jump out of the gym?
by 50backflips on Oct 8, 2009 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oden says dunk you very much
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
by skywaker9 on Oct 7, 2009 10:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Oden is a beast
look out NBA
"BEER IS LIVING PROOF THAT GOD LOVES US"
- Benjamin Franklin-
by We-B-Dunkin on Oct 8, 2009 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
On Leadership
Anyone else notice the caption under that nba.com video: “The Blazers were ahead of the Kings at halftime 51-42, led by Kevin Martin.”? This may explain their 17 win season.
by riptatermen on Oct 7, 2009 10:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
While watching Oden stomp the Kings is fun
it will be more fun to watch him play against some other teams and see if he can consistently pump out the double doubles, which I believe he can….
mmm, second round….
"No disrespect to Jeff Blake"
by Eat Politicians on Oct 7, 2009 10:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Mmmm
WCF baby! But why stop there!
by lethaldose on Oct 7, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Andrew Bynum alert....
He is also looking good.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
by timbo on Oct 7, 2009 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's all heading to the WCF
CLASH OF THE TITAN.
Mortstradamus
by Mortimer on Oct 7, 2009 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I already predicted that :)
"Fernandez, to my eyes, is the Blazer who walks that walk most comfortably. A lot of Portland's fans (egged on, dare I say, by their local broadcasters) lament things like how Ron Artest or Yao Ming get to hit Brandon Roy's arms.
But I suspect Fernandez sees all that and thinks: We get to hit arms! Cool!"
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-39-135/On-Playoff-Experience.html
"I told Pau the Lakers never win here in Portland; I think it's great." -- Rudy Fernandez
by ratbastird on Oct 8, 2009 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
From Quick's game recap focused entirely on Oden:
Late in the fourth quarter, Oden had perhaps his best flourish in his short career. On one possession, he took an entry pass, faced up, and exploded to his right, past Jon Brockman and through the lane for a powerful dunk.
by TSE on Oct 7, 2009 10:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He had about 4 dunks last night
It was great. They showed one in the highlights from the 3rd quarter. he had a similar one in the first quarter, when he saw “a lane” and went in for the dunk. Then there was an Alley Oop from Andre in the fourth in addition to the dunk past Brockman that Quick wrote about. Note that two of these were in the 4th quarter — he still had plenty of legs and fatigue/conditioning was not an issue.
by FromAfar on Oct 8, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
but he only did play 26 mins hehe
but still got 20/12 amazing
"shaq and zach randolph have the same trainer... "
best one liner i ever heard.
by bowdown on Oct 8, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
6500 people?
In other words, there were more people at the Portland State football game to watch a crappy team lose last weekend.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
by skywaker9 on Oct 7, 2009 10:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
look at the Grizz-Thundery highlishts on NBA.com
it looked like 650 people. But then no AI
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Oct 7, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The ATL game was pretty barren
It looked like there were about 6 people in the lower deck on one side of the stadium
by KitIsh on Oct 7, 2009 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that one surprised me.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
by timbo on Oct 7, 2009 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They've never caught on
Only for moments, like in that Celtics series 2 years ago.
by Mortimer on Oct 7, 2009 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ummm...no.
There have never been more than 2900 at a PSU game…I work there. Still, pathetic even for a pre-season game.
....formerly GonzoFan. Now, this has been a message from "The People's Alliance to Continue to Encourage Greg Oden on his Path to Dominance"
by bforsythe on Oct 7, 2009 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I meant football game
There were 5037 people there last Saturday.
Over 12k for Montana last year.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
by skywaker9 on Oct 7, 2009 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I work at PGE Park.
I know what they announce, and I know what is actually there. Trust me, there were 2900 people actually there. Montana is huge, but they also bring 7 bus loads of people with them (I meant this season there haven’t been more than 2900 – not over-all).
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by bforsythe on Oct 7, 2009 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was there
I’ve been to baseball games with all crowd capacities so I know what the crowd looks like. The lower level on the sideline was reasonably full.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
by skywaker9 on Oct 7, 2009 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm the food and beverage operations manager.
Trust me, pal. I get the real turnstile straight from the VP of Operations.
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by bforsythe on Oct 7, 2009 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That seems way oof
The student section I was in was about 75% full (now we are not paid attendance so maybe we don’t count).
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
by skywaker9 on Oct 7, 2009 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The turnstile counts everyone.
Even the players. It’s ridiculous. :et me know the next time your there. Always glad to meet a fellow Bedger.
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by bforsythe on Oct 7, 2009 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol this exchange made me funny
I KNOW WHAT A CROWD OF 15,000 PEOPLE LOOKS LIKE BUDDY
"Early to bed, early to rise, makes a woman healthy, wealthy, and wise. That's why you all are wiser than me. It's cloudydays."
by cloudydays on Oct 8, 2009 12:22 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Me too
I AM THE BARON CAPTAIN OF CROWD COUNTING DEEMED SO BY THE QUEEN OF PGE PARK HERSELF, PAL.
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by Mortimer on Oct 8, 2009 12:25 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
LISTEN HERE BUDDY
IVE BEEN TO GAMES HERE ALL MY LIFE AND MY EXPERIENCED CROWD COUNTING EYES TELL ME YOU ARE WRONG
"Early to bed, early to rise, makes a woman healthy, wealthy, and wise. That's why you all are wiser than me. It's cloudydays."
by cloudydays on Oct 8, 2009 12:30 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'VE BEEN COUNTING CROWDS LONGER THAN YOU'VE BEEN ALIVE
I COUNTED 30,000+ AT AN IMPROMPTU RALLY FOR SPIRO AGNEW BEFORE YOU WERE EVEN A GLEAM IN YOUR DRUNKEN MIC FATHER’S EYE. DON’T TELL ME HOW MANY WERE THERE, I CAN COUNT 2,900 IN MY SLEEP AND STILL MAKE IT HOME IN TIME FOR MATLOCK.
AND BY MATLOCK, I MEAN SLEEPING WITH YOUR MOTHER.
by Mortimer on Oct 8, 2009 12:36 AM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
MY PARENTS TRAINED ME FROM A YOUNG AGE, FIRST TEACHING ME HOW TO COUNT CROWDS AT MAJOR COLLEGE STADIUMS IN 1994. I DONT EVEN COUNT ONE BY ONE, I CAN COUNT HUNDRED BY HUNDRED. BOTH MAJOR OREGON UNIVERSITIES HAVE ME COUNT THE CROWDS FOR THEM AT THE GAME.
AND MY MOTHER DOES NOT RESEMBLE ANDY GRIFFITH
"Early to bed, early to rise, makes a woman healthy, wealthy, and wise. That's why you all are wiser than me. It's cloudydays."
by cloudydays on Oct 8, 2009 1:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can attest to the last statement.
She favors Andy’s dog. By a wide margin.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Oct 8, 2009 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Best argument on BE EVER!!!!
I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich
by hobobob on Oct 8, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I met Spiro Agnew when he was still Governor ...
… of Maryland and I don’t recall ever seeing you.
I’m guessing that’s because you were passed out in the same bar that cloudy’s gin soaked old man frequented.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Oct 8, 2009 8:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
*laugh
"Early to bed, early to rise, makes a woman healthy, wealthy, and wise. That's why you all are wiser than me. It's cloudydays."
by cloudydays on Oct 8, 2009 12:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha ha, DB's...
If any of you are ever planning on going to PGE Park (for an event – not to hang out with the homeless people out front) let me know, I’ll charge you double! :)
....formerly GonzoFan. Now, this has been a message from "The People's Alliance to Continue to Encourage Greg Oden on his Path to Dominance"
by bforsythe on Oct 8, 2009 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahah im sorry
but that exchange was just too funny not to make fun of
"Early to bed, early to rise, makes a woman healthy, wealthy, and wise. That's why you all are wiser than me. It's cloudydays."
by cloudydays on Oct 8, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, yeah...
You’re right. Can’t argue.
....formerly GonzoFan. Now, this has been a message from "The People's Alliance to Continue to Encourage Greg Oden on his Path to Dominance"
by bforsythe on Oct 9, 2009 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously, if you're ever here...
…let me know and I’ll buy you a beer or two, or a soda or dog if you’re on the wagon (which we all hope Mort is).
....formerly GonzoFan. Now, this has been a message from "The People's Alliance to Continue to Encourage Greg Oden on his Path to Dominance"
by bforsythe on Oct 9, 2009 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Btw your food has gotten much better this year
Even outside of the Widmer grill.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
by skywaker9 on Oct 7, 2009 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks. We're trying but it's HARD.
I used to be a restaurant manager. You should’ve seen the looks on some of my concession’s employee’s faces when I told them they couldn’t serve the burgers if the buns got hard out of the one stand on the main concourse that sells them. I don’t think anyone had ever told them that before. You should try a Viking Grinder next time you’re there – e-mail me (see my profile) and I’ll treat you. Maybe a beer too if you’re over 21.
....formerly GonzoFan. Now, this has been a message from "The People's Alliance to Continue to Encourage Greg Oden on his Path to Dominance"
by bforsythe on Oct 7, 2009 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am over 21
Not sure I’m coming to any more games this year. Between the team sucking, work and wanting to watch Oregon games instead, its not likely I’ll be back.
I came last weekend to introduce two students from India to football, and the pleasure of beer, hot dogs and garlic fries at sports events.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
by skywaker9 on Oct 8, 2009 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
Students from India drinking alcohol(?) and eating meat(?) . . . garlic fries and the resemblance to cricket I understand. Where in India?
"I never give in to the temptation to be difficult just for the sake of being difficult. That would be too ridiculous"
Jacques Derrida
by Rudyciudad on Oct 8, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
One from Bangalore
One from Mumbai, both educated upper-middle class folks back home.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
by skywaker9 on Oct 8, 2009 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know Montana is huge
I remember going to the game in 2006 and sitting in a crowd that was maybe 25% PSU fans and 75% Montana at PGE.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
by skywaker9 on Oct 7, 2009 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Skywaker
Are you a PSU student as well?
by resurrect_ha28 on Oct 8, 2009 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
when are the rest of the highlights comming?
"The difference between a democracy and a dictatorship is that in a democracy you vote first and take orders later; in a dictatorship you don't have to waste your time voting"
"I don't like jail, they got the wrong kind of bars in there"
Charles Bukowski
by jpaulson on Oct 7, 2009 10:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
im impatient and have been refreshing the nba.com page every few minutes....
i want to see some more Oden!
"The difference between a democracy and a dictatorship is that in a democracy you vote first and take orders later; in a dictatorship you don't have to waste your time voting"
"I don't like jail, they got the wrong kind of bars in there"
Charles Bukowski
by jpaulson on Oct 7, 2009 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Michael Jackson sings:
“You are not alone!”
*Unless KP has a secret plan that makes this statement incorrect.
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by staylost on Oct 7, 2009 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
refresh the post, that’s the full reel now
by Ben. on Oct 7, 2009 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks!
"The difference between a democracy and a dictatorship is that in a democracy you vote first and take orders later; in a dictatorship you don't have to waste your time voting"
"I don't like jail, they got the wrong kind of bars in there"
Charles Bukowski
by jpaulson on Oct 8, 2009 12:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
18 and 9
20 and 12
Things are looking up in Gregsville.
My team went to the playoffs in my first year.
by pxilpooshr on Oct 7, 2009 11:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
some blocks would be nice as well...
"The difference between a democracy and a dictatorship is that in a democracy you vote first and take orders later; in a dictatorship you don't have to waste your time voting"
"I don't like jail, they got the wrong kind of bars in there"
Charles Bukowski
by jpaulson on Oct 7, 2009 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stop complaining troll!
*Unless KP has a secret plan that makes this statement incorrect.
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by staylost on Oct 7, 2009 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want to see at least 2 blocks a game...
he can do it!
"The difference between a democracy and a dictatorship is that in a democracy you vote first and take orders later; in a dictatorship you don't have to waste your time voting"
"I don't like jail, they got the wrong kind of bars in there"
Charles Bukowski
by jpaulson on Oct 7, 2009 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps Oden shall grant this request...
…. as long as YOU record all the girlie reality T.V. he will miss while he is busy granting said request!
*Unless KP has a secret plan that makes this statement incorrect.
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by staylost on Oct 7, 2009 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
consider it done!
"The difference between a democracy and a dictatorship is that in a democracy you vote first and take orders later; in a dictatorship you don't have to waste your time voting"
"I don't like jail, they got the wrong kind of bars in there"
Charles Bukowski
by jpaulson on Oct 7, 2009 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he makes it 3 blocks a game and I will record day time soaps for him.
"The difference between a democracy and a dictatorship is that in a democracy you vote first and take orders later; in a dictatorship you don't have to waste your time voting"
"I don't like jail, they got the wrong kind of bars in there"
Charles Bukowski
by jpaulson on Oct 7, 2009 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He'll be around 80 and 50 by the end of the season at this rate.
by dario argento on Oct 7, 2009 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like a reasonable expectation
If he doesn’t live up to it … he’s a bust.
He's doing little shimmies. Jump hooks with the left hand, jump hooks with the right hand. - Brandon Roy on Greg Oden
by ECFIVESTER on Oct 8, 2009 6:06 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
that was funny
I just laughed out loud. Fortunately I’m by myself.
I'm going to come up with the best line here ever, something really clever.
by musicdaniel on Oct 8, 2009 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bayless's dunk in top 10 on NBA.com at #4
here
"Either way we have two phenomenal units. I'm excited to play with either one." - Martell Webster
by lee3022 on Oct 7, 2009 11:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
"Either way we have two phenomenal units. I'm excited to play with either one." - Martell Webster
by lee3022 on Oct 7, 2009 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, they really missed the boat tonight... Shannon Brown had a circus dunk in the Lakers game against the hapless (and I mean utterly without hap) Warriors...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
by timbo on Oct 7, 2009 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, seriously. Check it out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDzzfehgFBk
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
by timbo on Oct 7, 2009 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
AND ONE!
(and then he missed the FT)
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
by timbo on Oct 7, 2009 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Argghh! I watched it before realizing I was watching the LAKERS!
Don’t do it, folks, it’s just Brown being selfish with the ball on the fast-break.
It’s only a circus dunk because it involves clowns. Ten of them.
by MiledAnimal on Oct 8, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, he had his head down the whole way
Not watching the court AT ALL. HE’LL NEVER MAKE A POINT GUARD!!!
I can tell you how to make an Excel spreadsheet that proves Portland wins 62 games this year.
by jscot on Oct 8, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's no need to flaunt your flamboyant fandom here
I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich
by hobobob on Oct 8, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
His parades are one thing
But shoving it in our faces when we’re with our children is another.
—M
by Mortimer on Oct 8, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No one cares
But I’ll still respect you in the morning.
by xedubx on Oct 8, 2009 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
HOLY COW. Did you see that Josh Smith dunk!??!! Ok well forget the dunk. I mean who cares, am I right? But freeze the video there for a second. Look at the stands there in Atlanta. Theres TWO PEOPLE at that game. Man oh man.
My team went to the playoffs in my first year.
by pxilpooshr on Oct 7, 2009 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was probably being televised there
(That was sarcasm, for the record)
by Timmay! on Oct 7, 2009 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Atlanta is a crappy sports town
But geez.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
by skywaker9 on Oct 7, 2009 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jeez Ben, you really mailed this one in.
It’s like you didn’t even watch this game!
by shuppatsu on Oct 7, 2009 11:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Rec for sarcasm
Chuck Norris' tears cure cancer. Too bad he has never cried.
by FiveOhThree-RipCity!! on Oct 7, 2009 11:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He copied Tom's pregame post over at the Kings blog.
*Unless KP has a secret plan that makes this statement incorrect.
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by staylost on Oct 7, 2009 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
so there where 500 kings fans at the game?
by tevisthe4th on Oct 7, 2009 11:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
There are 500 Kings fans?
"HA HA HA HA HA
I'm not laughing, I'm just listing the five ugliest Blazers ever."
- rockingharder
by jamon51 on Oct 7, 2009 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Kings are kind of like us
Single sport town, good fan base, etc…
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
by skywaker9 on Oct 7, 2009 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Except we live inside buildings up here. :(
if you watch Rambo in reverse, Sly is healing everyone with his magical, bullet-sucking vacuum
by Tyler Durrden on Oct 8, 2009 10:34 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
True, when you go outside in Sacto
you have to actually jump into a lake or river to get wet.
by MiledAnimal on Oct 8, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How can they have play by play with video but not have a broadcast of the game?
I swear someone should put the game on a torrent site.
by BRoyInThe4th on Oct 7, 2009 11:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Somebody had to closed circuit it to Paul Allen's golden submarine after all........
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
by timbo on Oct 7, 2009 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe we should con PA into starting a JustinTV account...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
by timbo on Oct 7, 2009 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Was nice to see our scrubs ( and Andre ) in at the end of the game weather the storm and hang on for the win.
Greg is looking good so far. It’s gonna be a long road though, this season. He has yet to face a REAL center. I look forward to it.
by dario argento on Oct 7, 2009 11:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Gotta love what you see from Oden so far
Not many negatives, so I’ll do my job and search for them: I wonder why he’s not getting a couple blocks a game. That monster shotblocker he was reputed to be hasn’t really showed up yet.
Whatever, I’ll take an efficient 20 and 12 any day of the week. Looking forward to the season.
by jksnake99 on Oct 8, 2009 12:03 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
If only we could watch so we could SEE why he isn't blocking shots
I blame a combo of his past conditioning problems AND equating going for blocks = more likely to foul, even though he got his bad fouls on silly bumps and not moving his feet fast enough, not on trying for blocks.
He’s got the natural ability and instincts for it, but he needs to not worry about the fouls on blocking shots.
SOMEDAY WE’LL BE ABLE TO SEE A GAME ON THE TV BOX AND JUDGE FOR OURSELVES.
SIGH
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Oct 8, 2009 12:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So far on defense he's done a great job of not reaching in and waits for release to block.
That said he hasn’t been played straight up hardly at all. Nobody on the Kings has the guts to go against him so he really doesn’t have much chance to block shots if he wants to be in position to rebound.
by Bskey on Oct 8, 2009 12:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Kings fans have said they haven't attacked him at all
Sometimes a rep for blocking shots is enough I guess.
The Clippers got some guys who’ll attack, and some experienced bigs, so it’ll be a nice test.
M—
by Mortimer on Oct 8, 2009 12:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blocks are overrated. Half the time*, the opponent gets the ball back anyway
and then the blocker is out of position to play D.
*Wild guesstimate. Your opinion may vary.
by MiledAnimal on Oct 8, 2009 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, they are overrated
Take Camby for example… lotsa blocks, bad actual defender.
But they do make it so drivers think twice, change their shot, and get intimidated. Like a dunk is worth the same 2 points as a jump shot, it still makes a big psychological impact.
Not that you don’t know that, of course.
Oden was good at keeping the ball in play with his blocks, so I’m eager to see that sort of blocking again.
—M
by Mortimer on Oct 8, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Walton was the best I've ever seen at that.
He’d jump, block the shot softly so it stayed in his hands, look downcourt, and deliver a pinpoint outlet pass all in one motion.
In fact, Walton is the only player I’ve ever seen consistently do that.
I just wish that when the Blazers were blowing-out teams by 30 in the third quarter that he’d swat shots into the tenth row for laughs.
by MiledAnimal on Oct 8, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the controlled blocked shot
was Bill Russell’s speciality. I’m not old enough to have seen him play live, but there are some B&W newsreels of the old Celtic teams, and anecdotes from players/coaches of that era
When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
by two4larue on Oct 8, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well he did have a ridiculous block in game 1.
Sometimes the opportunities just don’t present themselves.
by Bskey on Oct 8, 2009 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus, the only important question is, "Did Martin dunk on Oden."
And with no evidence, he must not have.
*Unless KP has a secret plan that makes this statement incorrect.
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by staylost on Oct 8, 2009 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
one thing i’ve noticed (and i don’t have a full answer for you) is simple positioning, he’s often not in front of the hoop when guys drive the lane. i can’t decide if he scares people off when he is in that position and they opt for pull-ups or if he simply is regularly not in that area because he’s following his man somwhere else or he is simply out of position entirely.
kind of an obvious thing but it’s not like greg is out there whiffing 0 for 10 on blocked shot opportunities.
also he’s being VERY careful to go STRAIGHT UP when defending guys in the post so as to avoid fouls. less gambling.
so there’s two reasons jk, hope that helps.
by Ben. on Oct 8, 2009 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Less gambling is what I thought it was last year as well
That and conditioning.
He gets so worried about fouls (for good reason, he was a foul machine), but shouldn’t tie in “going for blocks” with his foul problems, since when he went for blocks, he got blocks. He didn’t foul more than a good big man does going for blocks, it was the other dumb fouls that got him.
To me, anywho.
—M
by Mortimer on Oct 8, 2009 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
basically when his arms sagged forward due to the weight of great expectations and a talented bit shot through those sagging arms and he got dinged. that’s what i’m thinking of. in his mind i think he thought he was getting a block. in reality he was probably just challenging the shot with poor form.
yes?
by Ben. on Oct 8, 2009 12:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
its hard because the kings guys are undersized and the blazers dont exactly feed joel one on one against greg at camp, but it seems like greg was coached this summer to just challenge straight up and then body up on the shooter after the shot for rebounding position. just eliminate the entire “attempted block shot on one on one post player” foul potential entirely.
maybe that overstates it. and small sample size. but that’s what i’ve been seeing recently.
by Ben. on Oct 8, 2009 12:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wish I knew the numbers
But I bet his number of fouls of him bumping a driver and non-going-for-a-block fouls outnumber the fouls from going for a block 2 to 1.
I mean, I’m all for anything that removes his foul problems and keeps him on the court. I think he definitely has the ability and instincts for blocking, so perhaps it’s just a part of his game that returns with more experience. You’re right, Joel is definitely not a good practice center to take it to Oden.
His work on the Olympics camp sounded encouraging… supposedly a grip o’ blocks from Oden there.
Weakside blocking should improve this year, I hope.
Mo
by Mortimer on Oct 8, 2009 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
those really annoying bump fouls have been non-existent so far. he trusts his legs now.
by Ben. on Oct 8, 2009 12:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They were the worst
Just let them go by and play them at the rim…!
Tyreke and Kevin Martin are both slashers who get to the line (well, I’m assuming Tyreke will be, we know Martin is) and I didn’t hear any dumb fouls on them by Oden in 2 games so that’s a big plus.
Ya take away the maybe-iffy offensive fouls and he’s had no foul problems yet.
I am a Oden homer but even I don’t think he won’t still have foul problems, though I am convinced conditioning means everything when it comes to staying out of foul trouble. Next is experience. He could only handle one of those in one summer, so I’m really happy it sounds like he got it under control.
M—
by Mortimer on Oct 8, 2009 12:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
tyreke lives at the rim. he’s tricky in getting clean looks. he looks like he played against taller players his whole life (his brothers…). he will be a monster.
by Ben. on Oct 8, 2009 12:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, he'd also have some fouls
Where (especially after already getting 1 or 2 dumb fouls) he’d do the thing Joel used to do where he WOULD NOT ALLOW YOU TO SCORE NO I FOUL YOU, and then foul the guy hard even though he should just let it go. His internal Judge-o-Meter to determine when was foul time, when was block time, and when was let it go time was broken.
He needs to calibrate his block-o-meter, because the foul problems have made him worry too much about it.
—M
by Mortimer on Oct 8, 2009 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
so the jude-o-meter or the block-o-meter?
Which is more important???
He's doing little shimmies. Jump hooks with the left hand, jump hooks with the right hand. - Brandon Roy on Greg Oden
by ECFIVESTER on Oct 8, 2009 6:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a great question
But I don’t think science will ever be able to tell us… not until our Science-o-Meters are properly adjusted to take into account microfracture recovery in a raw rookie big.
Of course it’s possible someday science figures it all out, but I… I, I just don’t think it’s likely.
I don’t mean to start a heated discussion about science, it’s just what I believe.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Oct 8, 2009 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you mean Faith
the guy everyone thought was a girl?
by Falcao on Oct 8, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Watch the highlights to see him get stripped of the ball in 4th qtr.
That is a negative he still needs to get rid of. But he’s much improved over all.
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Oct 8, 2009 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least he was trying a quick spin move again!
by Mortimer on Oct 8, 2009 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
From the highlights I saw
On some of those moves he looks surprised with how open it made him, and he needs to react even faster.
Experience and time, experience and time…
Morty
by Mortimer on Oct 8, 2009 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he fakes himself out too roughly 30 percent of the time. it’s great. like a baby elephant.
by Ben. on Oct 8, 2009 12:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
haahahah
"Early to bed, early to rise, makes a woman healthy, wealthy, and wise. That's why you all are wiser than me. It's cloudydays."
by cloudydays on Oct 8, 2009 12:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, time to do my NEW MOVE GOOOO
Holy crap what do I do now, there’s no defender here anymore uhhhh OK DUNK CITY DUDE.
Yeah, I did it!
by Mortimer on Oct 8, 2009 12:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
just tried to google image baby elephants to do a “picture of oden spin move” fake out image line… and i got elephant sex photos. come on google. even the elephants????
by Ben. on Oct 8, 2009 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=rule+34
"Early to bed, early to rise, makes a woman healthy, wealthy, and wise. That's why you all are wiser than me. It's cloudydays."
by cloudydays on Oct 8, 2009 12:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha ha, thanks for the education.
I like this one best:
rule 34
There is porn of it, no exceptions.
Except Rosie O’Donnell, noone has dared cross that boundary.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
by timbo on Oct 8, 2009 1:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Benny Blanco
You don’t think there’s a chance Oden won’t start, do you?
I mean… he has to.
HAS
to.
by Mortimer on Oct 8, 2009 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
last one should be too, comes down to how stubborn nate wants to be.
starting steve in my opinion will set him up for failure. a more talented, more athletic, more versatile player on the bench behind him? what happens after every single lose? blake’s fault.
by Ben. on Oct 8, 2009 12:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also just makes Blake look bad
To have Miller come in and just downright outplay him every game, leading the team, talking loud on the court, being a star PG.
If ya bring Blake off the bench, everything Miller does doesn’t make Blake look less-so. We can celebrate Blake in all of his Blake-ness and not wonder how much better our starts would be if Miller was directing traffic…
by Mortimer on Oct 8, 2009 12:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Blake starts Miller will still play a lot more minutes and finish games.
Much like Nic last year. The best reason for Blake to start would be to always have Roy or Miller on the floor at all times. It is easier to accomplish that type of rotation if Blake starts and plays about 6 minutes before bringing on Miller. But if we consistently fall behind early in games then Miller would almost certainly be moved into the starting spot.
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Oct 8, 2009 12:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
indeed.
imho, i’d rather maximize greg’s early minutes than set up miller/roy, knowing you’ve got rudy stepping up in a bigger role.
by Ben. on Oct 8, 2009 12:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It could work something like this:
1st/3rd Qtr
0:00 Blake, Roy, Batum, LMA, Oden
6:00 Miller, Roy, Webster, LMA, Oden
10:00 Miller, Rudy, Webster, LMA, Joel
2nd/4th
0:00 Miller, Rudy, Webster, Outlaw, Joel
4:00 Rudy (or Blake), Roy, Batum, Outlaw, Joel
7:00 Miller, Roy, Rudy (or Webster/Outlaw/Batum in 4th), LMA, Oden
Roy – 36
Miller – 30
Blake – 12 (could expand to 15-18 at expense of Rudy getting PG minutes)
Rudy – 28
Batum – 18
Webster – 20
LMA – 34 (But probably 36-38 minutes in close games)
Outlaw – 14
Oden – 30 (as fouls permit)
Joel – 18
Batum/Webster time could easily be swapped, or distributed more heavily to one player than the other as we find out who "wins" the playing time.
Rudy’s time flexes a lot in 4th quarters with match ups and hot hands.
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Oct 8, 2009 12:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
a couple of thoughts
Hopefully Roy can play a few less than 36 minutes which will give a few more minutes to Rudy, but that will probably depend on how close the game is.
It seems like there should be more minutes for Batum and Webster. 18 and 20 is not a lot. With both small forwards being as good as they are, they should be covering all of the small forward minutes instead of giving them to Roy or Rudy.
"The difference between a democracy and a dictatorship is that in a democracy you vote first and take orders later; in a dictatorship you don't have to waste your time voting"
"I don't like jail, they got the wrong kind of bars in there"
Charles Bukowski
by jpaulson on Oct 8, 2009 1:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's really going to come down to who can contribute the most,
Rudy, Webster, or Batum. Last year Rudy clearly contributed more than Batum, and I think he can still contribute more than either of the other two. Then whether Batum or Webster eventually get most of the remaining 38-40 minutes this year will be determined by how well they play. There’s not enough minutes for all three long term, so I expect one of them to be moved next summer.
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Oct 8, 2009 2:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Batum needs to be in as much as possible
Rudy contributed more when looking at stats, but Batums defense is going to be big this year. Defense is going to help this team win on the road more consistently this year, and Batums offense is becoming less and less of a liability. Also, Matell should be able to contribute the same way that Rudy did last season, hitting threes. Rudy did not do to much more than that last season (not saying that he couldnt though). Rudy could take some minutes away from point guard (even though i dont think that is a good idea either since there is 2 solid point guards now as well). Rudy is supposedly going to handle the ball more this season, and if that doesnt work out, in my opinion, that could make him the odd man out.
"The difference between a democracy and a dictatorship is that in a democracy you vote first and take orders later; in a dictatorship you don't have to waste your time voting"
"I don't like jail, they got the wrong kind of bars in there"
Charles Bukowski
by jpaulson on Oct 8, 2009 3:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rudy the odd man out
Rudy contributed more when looking at stats, but Batums defense is going to be big
This is rarely mentioned, but it should be in all caps. If Rudy isn’t going to be a long-term Blazer (because he plays the same position as Roy) shouldn’t Portland be giving more developmental minutes to Batum? I realize the goal is to win now, but Batum’s defense is as important as the “extra offense” Rudy provides, if not more so
When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
by two4larue on Oct 8, 2009 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think especially in the early years of his career.
The first few minutes of a game will really “set the tone” for Greg’s in-game performance. If Miller can help get Greg off to a strong start on a consistent basis, he deserves the start.
I wish I spent more time playing catch with you and less time training my body and mind to kill you...
by 1badbadger on Oct 8, 2009 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The 5th spot still PG?
Or is Martell conceding the SF spot to Batum a fake out…
by Mortimer on Oct 8, 2009 12:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How could Miller not have the PG spot locked?
I mean Blake is the fanfest MVP and all, but seriously. To me that seems like benching Tony Parker cuz he can’t shoot three’s.
McMillan is weirding me out.
by Nick Van Excellent on Oct 8, 2009 12:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it’s locked to me. nate plays by his own rules.
let’s keep in mind nate is sacrificing a ton of control that he had from 2 years ago to last year to this year.
in blake he’s got his familiar puppet. with andre he’s got a robot that needs 12 batteries and is prone to random noises and he’s not totally sure where the off switch is.
by Ben. on Oct 8, 2009 12:36 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Creative Comparison of the Year winner!!!!!!
I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich
by hobobob on Oct 8, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm holding out hope
That it is as how of respect to Blake and enables him to feel like he isn’t forgotten, and Blake will be fine with it if he loses it fair and square from Miller outplaying him.
He’s just so much more DYNAMIC… yeah, he can’t shoot 3’s, but more than makes up for it with his veteran guile, leadership, and how he can bring the best out of LMA and Oden.
by Mortimer on Oct 8, 2009 12:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope so.
It just seems so strange. The Blazers have needed a PG for forever, and then they finally get one of the most consistent, underrated, elite point guards in the league and they don’t seem all that excited about it. Strange.
I love it that Hollinger called him the second best alley-oop passer of all time.(apparently Sherman Douglas is better?) That’s probably not a skill you lose as you get older. I doubt his post moves or passing suffer much either. He’s got some years left in the tank, but some people are so ready to write him off as an over the hill grouch.
He played 43 minutes a game in the playoffs with Philly. There’s no reason he couldn’t do that with Portland.
I love him, but Blake should be getting fifteen minutes a game tops.
by Nick Van Excellent on Oct 8, 2009 12:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look at my distribution above.
Blake starts and nominally gets 12 minutes, could be 15-18 taking a few PG minutes from Rudy. Miller gets 30, but again could be more taking a few PG minutes from Rudy. The Rudy PG experiment (6 minutes) could be successful (50-50 chance), but if not it probably ends in a month or two and we start thinking about a trade next summer for Rudy.
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Oct 8, 2009 1:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe, but...
Miller played 43 minutes a game for the 76’ers in the playoffs. There’s no reason he can’t do something similar for the much slower Blazers.
During the regular season I would be fine if Miller got his normal 35 minutes per game. There’s just no logical reason why you would bench him so a lesser player can get more minutes. The game plan shouldn’t be, “Let’s find minutes for Blake.” It’s about winning, and the best point guard (Miller) gives you the best chance to do that.
by Nick Van Excellent on Oct 8, 2009 1:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The reason Miller won't play 43 minutes
is because we have a much better backup than they had.
As author of Da BOM (Blazer Optimist Manifesto), I hereby certify that we will win 62 games in the regular season. Disagree at your peril.
by jscot on Oct 8, 2009 1:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No we don't.
Williams was the better player last year. I watched a ton of 76’er games last season and while he’s not a “true” PG exactly, I’d still call him the better player. I wouldn’t be surprised if he was a borderline all-star this season. I would be VERY surprised if Blake was..
Some of the numbers, especially PER, seem to support my eyeballs.
* Williams recorded a player efficiency rating of 21.3 as a point guard (in contrast to his still respectable 15.5 PER as a shooting guard).
* Williams’ passing rating was 7.7, good for 37th in the league, which isn’t bad for a guy who spent most of his minutes at the two.
* His turnover percentage of 13.0 wasn’t bad either (as a comp, Chauncey Billups also chalked up a 13.0 turnover rate).-truehoop
by Nick Van Excellent on Oct 8, 2009 2:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Miller Has Not Yet Impressed Me
He bricked it in crunchtime. I don’t know if he was called to run his own play, but he took a horrible shot when Portland was looking to ice the game.
Plus the +/- was no contest in the box score.
Maybe Miller will get better as he plays more with the team, but as of right this second - based on the box score (since I couldn’t see the game) I say Blake is still the man. He was also 2/3 from downtown- a dimension that Miller is lacking.
by Anim8rguy on Oct 8, 2009 2:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Miller isn't in shape yet
He’s a very good player.
As author of Da BOM (Blazer Optimist Manifesto), I hereby certify that we will win 62 games in the regular season. Disagree at your peril.
by jscot on Oct 8, 2009 3:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+/- can’t be taken into account until there is a large body of work. In a single game there is too much noise for it to be meaningful.
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
by Cablinasian on Oct 8, 2009 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Couldn't have been that much noise
There were only 6500 there.
I can tell you how to make an Excel spreadsheet that proves Portland wins 62 games this year.
by jscot on Oct 8, 2009 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
smh.
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
by Cablinasian on Oct 8, 2009 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If by bench him you mean not start him,
I see him getting at least 30 minutes a game in the regular season even if he doesn’t start. I wouldn’t consider that being benched, but rather just a good way to always have Roy or Miller in the game, which would be my #1 priority.
I’m sure there are other ways to do it but I like the various combinations in my scenario. Nate will undoubtedly do something different, but I was really trying to show a logical way that Miller can play 30 minutes and finish games without having to start if Nate actually chooses to start Blake.
The rotation always tightens in the playoffs so I’m not concerned with that now.
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Oct 8, 2009 2:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't care if Miller only gets 24-28
I know he’s been remarkably healthy, but he’s getting older.
No need to run him a lot of minutes in the regular season. We should be playing guys much less than capacity during the regular season this year, we’ll lock up a good seed early.
As author of Da BOM (Blazer Optimist Manifesto), I hereby certify that we will win 62 games in the regular season. Disagree at your peril.
by jscot on Oct 8, 2009 3:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know.
If we want any shot of making a deep run, we probably need the 2nd seed.
by Nick Van Excellent on Oct 8, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We'll get it
I can tell you how to make an Excel spreadsheet that proves Portland wins 62 games this year.
by jscot on Oct 8, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fry was 2-4 from the 3 yesterday
Oden needs to step out there and create some space for the guards to attack the basket.
by tominhawaii on Oct 8, 2009 5:34 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Good for him
If Frye continues shooting lots 3’s he should be much more efficient than he was last year when he relied on the foot-on-the-line 2-point shot. If he gets consistent playing time as well (and it looks like he is going to), this could be a break-out season for Frye.
by trk on Oct 8, 2009 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe
Even I don’t like the idea of a center shooting 3’s unless he’s go the ball and the team is about to have a shot clock violation.
by tominhawaii on Oct 9, 2009 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Poor Sergio.
*Unless KP has a secret plan that makes this statement incorrect.
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by staylost on Oct 8, 2009 12:15 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That was so bogus
Put him in ice cold at the end of the game, he gets a key bad turnover and then has to throw up a bad buzzer beater.
I want Sergio to do well, even though I am sure I am counted as a Sergio hater. I will root hard for him.
ROOT ROOT ROOT ROOT.
Morty
by Mortimer on Oct 8, 2009 12:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still think Sergio should be their backup over Beno
by jksnake99 on Oct 8, 2009 1:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd have to say that anyone still rooting against him
except when he’s playing the Blazers of course, has some issues. The only ex-Blazers I’ve ever rooted against were J.R., Ruben and Z-Bo, although Qyntel would have probably made that group if I ever remembered seeing him play after we got rid of him.
by Royster on Oct 8, 2009 7:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is a must read by the way…
http://oregonmediacentral.com/2009/10/oregonian-memo-many-current-news-teams-will-cease-to-exist
by Ben. on Oct 8, 2009 12:20 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It's weird watching newspapers shrink like puddles of water on a hot patio.
They will continue to shrink until they find the new floor for their market.
I’m curious to see where that floor is, or whether it’s really just a bottomless pit.
by MiledAnimal on Oct 8, 2009 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
game observations
WOW! Oden looked good. He’s showed some very quick moves on offense. You can tell he’s still learning by the way Roy, Aldridge and Blake were always talking and gesturing to him.
On one play he played volley ball as if he way the only player on the floor, unfortunately he missed the put back.
by centralvalley23 on Oct 8, 2009 12:21 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
that is “was” the only player
I can see why some say Bayless needs to work on his game. On a fast he with the ball and Miller on the wing. They were almost side by side at half court and the Miller speeds up and separates himself for a pass from Bayless and clear lay up, but no pass. At least he got fouled.
by centralvalley23 on Oct 8, 2009 12:29 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm.... I think Greg might end up starting.
“It’s going to be hard to keep Greg out of the starting lineup,” team leader Brandon Roy said before the first preseason game. “He is playing really good. That’s not to say Joel (Przybilla) is not, but Greg is playing at a really high level.”-Oregonian
If Greg starts, there really isn’t a good reason to keep Miller in the second unit.
by Nick Van Excellent on Oct 8, 2009 12:30 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Both are non issues
Nate kept his word to the starters last year that when they came into training camp that they were the starters and it was their job to lose. If either Oden or Miller ends up not starting, then it’s not Nate, it’s one or both of them sucking.
by tominhawaii on Oct 8, 2009 6:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and based on how each of them are playing
the starting spots for Oden and Miller are both warranted.
"Ain't nothin' in this world for free."
by Arby on Oct 8, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure it will end up that way
I just don’t want to make a decision after two games against the Kings.
by tominhawaii on Oct 9, 2009 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cunningham looked like a rookie. Sacs #5 owned him. Welcome to the NBA.
by centralvalley23 on Oct 8, 2009 12:30 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
think Cleveland would trade LeBron for a package of Cunningham and Outlaw?
:P
"Early to bed, early to rise, makes a woman healthy, wealthy, and wise. That's why you all are wiser than me. It's cloudydays."
by cloudydays on Oct 8, 2009 12:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could live with LeBron as our backup PF
As author of Da BOM (Blazer Optimist Manifesto), I hereby certify that we will win 62 games in the regular season. Disagree at your peril.
by jscot on Oct 8, 2009 1:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cunningham looked like a rookie
This is why you don’t count on rookie big men, especially during the post season. Drafting Pend/‘Ham wasn’t “enough” to “replace” Frye. Howard has good court vision, but lacks the defensive size to play “emergency center”
KP needs to address this potential roster weakness, and he has excess wing players available to make a lopsided deal
When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
by two4larue on Oct 8, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but we're not totally screwed.
If we need an “emergency center” because we lose Oden or Przybilla, Aldridge can play that role, with Outlaw and Howard filling in for him.
Disclaimer: everything I know about basketball I learned on Blazersedge.
by pualo on Oct 8, 2009 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LMA as a center
all you need to know about that is when Nate needed a 3rd center (when Oden was out, last year) Channing Frye guarded the other team’s center, not LMA
I love LMA, but the idea of him playing center for 20+ mpg in key games (against Denver, the Spurs, the L*kers, etc) creates unncessary anxiety
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by two4larue on Oct 8, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
with Outlaw and Howard filling in for him.
Be still, my beating heart! A tweener and a geezer? This is the “twinkie post defense” corps
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by two4larue on Oct 8, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
look at every other contender. Only Boston has four good bigs. While it’s a nice luxury, we are not going to live and die by the backup 4.
That being said, I’d like a nice big to back up LMA.
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
by Cablinasian on Oct 8, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A nice big? We already have Travis.
I want a mean big like Charles Oakley.
by MiledAnimal on Oct 8, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's old
I can tell you how to make an Excel spreadsheet that proves Portland wins 62 games this year.
by jscot on Oct 8, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So's your face!
Ahh, that felt good.
Except now I’ve just conscripted myself into permanent membership in the rebellion.
by MiledAnimal on Oct 8, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ahem
Yes, well, what I’m trying to figure out is why my face should be any different from the rest of me.
Nevertheless, I’m willing to concede your intent was evil, and to mark you on the “to be re-educated” list.
I can tell you how to make an Excel spreadsheet that proves Portland wins 62 games this year.
by jscot on Oct 8, 2009 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
right
LMA doesn’t like being called “soft” but, if the shoe fits…
I repeat, Channing Frye guarded opposing centers last year, when they were on the court together
Nate has asked for a “beast” since May. Howard isn’t it. Neither is Collins
When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
by two4larue on Oct 8, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Greg is worth two beasts
I can tell you how to make an Excel spreadsheet that proves Portland wins 62 games this year.
by jscot on Oct 8, 2009 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
only when he's in the game
and the center position shouldn’t be relied upon for all of the “beastliness”. Can you think of a contending team who has a forward crew as soft as the Blazers?
When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
by two4larue on Oct 8, 2009 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Orlando four months ago
I can tell you how to make an Excel spreadsheet that proves Portland wins 62 games this year.
by jscot on Oct 8, 2009 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Veterans
I think that Coach Nat request for veterans on the team was evident tonight.
Miller forced Evans into two charges.
Howard found a way to feed Oden.
The most impressive thing tonight was how they improvised when the play wasn’t there.
Well, I got my fix tonight. I can’t wait till the games are televised. Good night all.
by centralvalley23 on Oct 8, 2009 12:38 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Why are neither of these plays in the highlights?
Late in the fourth quarter, Oden had perhaps his best flourish in his short career. On one possession, he took an entry pass, faced up, and exploded to his right, past Jon Brockman and through the lane for a powerful dunk. On the next possession, he went high to catch a lob from Andre Miller, which he dunked.
by Mortimer on Oct 8, 2009 12:41 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Late in the fourth quarter
video editor was already waist deep in…………………. pajamas
by Ben. on Oct 8, 2009 12:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
on that note, i’m out. thanks for the conversation guys.
by Ben. on Oct 8, 2009 12:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nate from the bench
He gestured to Miller to go over the top and he at didn’t seem to understand. Oden inbounded the ball to Miller and he told him the play. Udoka and someone else went through the lane and then a beautiful pass and perfectly timed jump and dunk by Oden. Couldn’t help but laugh. It was a thing of beauty.
by centralvalley23 on Oct 8, 2009 12:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have been convinced by both Miller and Oden,
that they deserve to be in the starting lineup. From henceforth, premthegrem will be called RAMBO
by R.A.M.B.O on Oct 8, 2009 1:08 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
yucky grammar
I mean to say:
Henceforth ptg will be called RAMBO
by R.A.M.B.O on Oct 8, 2009 1:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beast Mode
Speculation time: If Oden can go into Beast Mode against bad teams (or teams without a brick wall to put between him and the rim) and post average numbers against everyone else, how many games do we win?
He’s still young and I’m not expecting Dwight Howard numbers but with the way he’s playing right now, well, how many teams have a center that can match Greg 2.0?
by JonathanPDX on Oct 8, 2009 2:32 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Beast Mode?
Isn’t that from Beastwars: Transformers? I worked on that show!
by Anim8rguy on Oct 8, 2009 2:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Terrorize! Maximize!
I loved that show.
by MiledAnimal on Oct 8, 2009 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How many games do we win?
60+
As author of Da BOM (Blazer Optimist Manifesto), I hereby certify that we will win 62 games in the regular season. Disagree at your peril.
by jscot on Oct 8, 2009 3:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
61 to be exact
"The difference between a democracy and a dictatorship is that in a democracy you vote first and take orders later; in a dictatorship you don't have to waste your time voting"
"I don't like jail, they got the wrong kind of bars in there"
Charles Bukowski
by jpaulson on Oct 8, 2009 4:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
62
As author of Da BOM (Blazer Optimist Manifesto), I hereby certify that we will win 62 games in the regular season. Disagree at your peril.
by jscot on Oct 8, 2009 7:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wish I was wrong, and you were right...
but, I am hardly ever wrong.
"The difference between a democracy and a dictatorship is that in a democracy you vote first and take orders later; in a dictatorship you don't have to waste your time voting"
"I don't like jail, they got the wrong kind of bars in there"
Charles Bukowski
by jpaulson on Oct 8, 2009 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can live with it
if by some miracle, you happen to right instead of me on this one.
But I doubt it.
I can tell you how to make an Excel spreadsheet that proves Portland wins 62 games this year.
by jscot on Oct 8, 2009 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
By the way, your sig has it all wrong
In a lot of dictatorships you waste your time voting because you were ordered to.
I can tell you how to make an Excel spreadsheet that proves Portland wins 62 games this year.
by jscot on Oct 8, 2009 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
very true...
I think Bukowski was poking fun at how democracy makes people feel better about taking orders. We get to vote for who we are going to be taking orders from, but at the same time, we will still be taking orders regardless. Although, if you have read much of Bukowski, he is very blunt, and could just be stating his apathetic opinion of the relevancy of voting; he obviously understands how voting is just a formality to appease the public. Dont want to get to much in to politics though lol.
"The difference between a democracy and a dictatorship is that in a democracy you vote first and take orders later; in a dictatorship you don't have to waste your time voting"
"I don't like jail, they got the wrong kind of bars in there"
Charles Bukowski
by jpaulson on Oct 8, 2009 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As future ruler of the world
these little details are important to me.
I can tell you how to make an Excel spreadsheet that proves Portland wins 62 games this year.
by jscot on Oct 8, 2009 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im good at risk...
maybe I should try to rule the world someday.
Giving orders > taking orders
"The difference between a democracy and a dictatorship is that in a democracy you vote first and take orders later; in a dictatorship you don't have to waste your time voting"
"I don't like jail, they got the wrong kind of bars in there"
Charles Bukowski
by jpaulson on Oct 8, 2009 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
60 + . . .
* – Sans major injury !!
IT’S GO TIME !!!
COINCAST SUCKS !!! YEAR # 3 ready to enter the books !!
Great deal Blazer Management !!!
It's GO time !
by walkoff41 on Oct 8, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What does an old man have to do to get some RESPECT around here
Juwan Howard…COME ON! You want a veteran backup for aldridge and the man delivers 7/8 and he’s chopped liver over here? Where is the love?
"No disrespect to Jeff Blake"
by Eat Politicians on Oct 8, 2009 4:02 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
1 rec? really?
Where is the love for Juwan? Y’all are haters! HATERS!!! Each and every last lily livered one of ya! minus the guy/girl who rec’d of course.
JUWAN HOWARD WILL DOMINATE YOU ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"No disrespect to Jeff Blake"
by Eat Politicians on Oct 8, 2009 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Foul Problem
I like what Oden put up in the 2 games but he still have some foul issues. He should be able to stay in at least 30 minutes this season and be around 35 by the year after to get to the level of our expectations. I don’t see him improving as fast as needed. We will rely on Joel again this season. Other than that Oden is putting up good performances. Especially on offense he reminds me of Bill Russell from time to time. Well worth the pick so far.
by SithLord13 on Oct 8, 2009 6:56 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
it was bs calls by the refs
Trade for Luis Amundson!!Do it KP!!
by CroRupt on Oct 8, 2009 7:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don't see him improving as fast as needed?
The dude is playing great compared to last year.
What do you think is “needed”?
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by jscot on Oct 8, 2009 7:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he's not Wilt in '61-62 by the all star break, time to cut him
That’s right. We need 25 boards and 50 points a night or it’s not worth keeping him around, period.
by Royster on Oct 8, 2009 7:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be pretty good, but 70 points and 30 boards would be ideal.
My team went to the playoffs in my first year.
by pxilpooshr on Oct 8, 2009 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Judging from the box score LMA was awful
Hopefully just an anomaly because that is a horrible line
More TO than points. 3 reb in 24 min. Ugh.
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Oct 8, 2009 7:44 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
he's got a lot on his mind
“cut the check”
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by two4larue on Oct 8, 2009 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LaMarcus was making a statement to Paul Allen.
Pay me or expect games like this.
by MiledAnimal on Oct 8, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
More Games
like that and he won’t get paid.
by DucRider on Oct 8, 2009 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
First dunk in that highlight... wow!
I love seeing Greg getting the ball down low in the box and dribbling the ball to get his feet set, as he bumps the defender out of position. That was awesome!
I think I may have to up my pre pre-season prediction of Oden getting 14 and 10… and perhaps my 59 win total will be increased by a couple too!
Man, this is so fun watching another dynasty in the making (another for me, anyway – I watched the Bird Celtics in the 80’s… This one is looking even sweeter, seeing where the Blazers came from just a few short years ago…)
I can’t wait to hear Cowherd (traitor!) eat some big time crow re: Oden…
Blazers: RUN away with the title!
KP: Please don't trade the next decade's Scottie Pippen (Batum), Spanish Larry Bird (Rudy), Bill Russell (GO) or Captain BRoy - at least until they 3-peat..
by Visionary2 on Oct 8, 2009 7:48 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Interesting that Nate managed to find almost 25 minutes for Blake, Miller, and Bayless each
"I think he can still play" - Kevin Pritchard on Juwan Howard
by Norsktroll on Oct 8, 2009 7:58 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Also 25 minutes for Roy. Of course Rudy DNP.
"I think he can still play" - Kevin Pritchard on Juwan Howard
by Norsktroll on Oct 8, 2009 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, a lot easier to find minutes for all our point guards
when he has almost 40 extra minutes to play with.
by Royster on Oct 8, 2009 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't believe all of you (except for X man) missed ...
… the most important development from last night.
That’s right. The fact that Shav appears to be back with Portland.
And you missed the second biggest story as well. That Shav’s chances of seeing PT are slim, due to the new starting PF we have – Juwon Howard.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Oct 8, 2009 8:27 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I suppose Shav is on the boxscore because the Blazers still hold some rights to him (they could sign him to a contract higher than the minimum, or use him in a sign & trade) and he hasn't signed a new guaranteed contract with Miami yet
The bigger question brought up by some people is why Travis didn’t play. Just because they wanted to give all the minutes to Webster, Udoka, Dante at small forward? Why did he already need rest?
"I think he can still play" - Kevin Pritchard on Juwan Howard
by Norsktroll on Oct 8, 2009 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Obviously, Nate knows what Travis can do
He wants to see just how much Martell has come back, what Ime has left in the tank, and how Dante performs in a game.
I doubt Brandon needs rest, but he only played 25 minutes. It’s preseason, man. We’re talking preseason.
I can tell you how to make an Excel spreadsheet that proves Portland wins 62 games this year.
by jscot on Oct 8, 2009 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Roy axed for more minutes to get his rhythm
by tominhawaii on Oct 8, 2009 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Selfish.
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
by Cablinasian on Oct 8, 2009 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Travis hurt his ankle Saturday
Obviously it isn’t serious and Outlaw could play if it was a real game, but they might still be a little concerned about that.
by trk on Oct 8, 2009 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Completely Undefeated
As part of being completely undefeated and totally dominant do we have to be ahead after every quarter?
by dawgman47 on Oct 8, 2009 10:33 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
hmmm
Miller passed up Roy to take his own last second shot and missed… that’s not the game plan, is it?
"Fernandez, to my eyes, is the Blazer who walks that walk most comfortably. A lot of Portland's fans (egged on, dare I say, by their local broadcasters) lament things like how Ron Artest or Yao Ming get to hit Brandon Roy's arms.
But I suspect Fernandez sees all that and thinks: We get to hit arms! Cool!"
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-39-135/On-Playoff-Experience.html
"I told Pau the Lakers never win here in Portland; I think it's great." -- Rudy Fernandez
by ratbastird on Oct 8, 2009 11:10 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That Bayless dunk was sweet!
I think his vert is even higher than Outlaw’s. And what is Miller taking last minute shot attempts for? That’s Brandon’s job!!
My favorite teams are the Blazers and any team that is playing the Lakers.
by OCBlazerFan1 on Oct 8, 2009 11:15 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
didn't notice
I only browsed through these posts, but didn’t notice any comments on this great big new threat looming for the Blazers that became evident from last night’s game.
Juwan Howard is a damn good player!
Can a player that good be stuck on the bench all season long?
Admittedly one shouldn’t read too much into two preseason games, but his play sure looks like the sort of level-headed confidence they are going to need in the playoffs.
Could they bench him all year and then put him in the playoff rotation?
The ugly specter of Portland’ talent glut rears it’s head with new ferocity.
Seriously, this is a HUGE problem.
I think they may need to unload Rudy, Outlaw, and Bayless just to break the logjam. Otherwise this talent glut is going to bit them in the butt bigtime as the season goes on.
by lsjogren on Oct 8, 2009 11:17 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure KP and Nate are losing sleep over what to do with all the talent of Juwan Howard
Not that he balks and goes to a bad team where he could get more playing time and money. Like Charlotte. Oh wait, that’s where he comes from. Well until another team poaches him away, he can use his talent to keep LaMarcus’ minutes under 38.
"I think he can still play" - Kevin Pritchard on Juwan Howard
by Norsktroll on Oct 8, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Could they bench him all year and then put him in the playoff rotation?
Sure, that was Mutumbo’s role with Houston, last year
When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
by two4larue on Oct 8, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Allen signed Howard to make a statement to LaMarcus.
“You’re expendable, so you’d better take my offer.”
by MiledAnimal on Oct 8, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Juwan Howard
One thing about Howard: I suspect one reason he found Portland appealing was that it seems clear to me that with his basketball skills, his even temperament, and his exemplary character, he is an obvious candidate to be considered for some sort of coaching position with the team after he is no longer an active player, assuming there happens to be an opening when he retires his jersey.
by lsjogren on Oct 8, 2009 11:22 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
that and he still has game
he will dunk on all you haters….
"No disrespect to Jeff Blake"
by Eat Politicians on Oct 8, 2009 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
These preseason games make me wish I was a kings fan.
If only because this Ziller guy is hilarious. I may start checking into sactown royalty every now and then just to see his posts because, really, he is amazing even if his favorite team…well, isn’t.
"We Believe" - Rudy Fernandez
by TheGreatMon on Oct 8, 2009 1:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, he really is good
I check them out from time to time. I would guess that is the second favorite SBN site among Blazer fans.
I can tell you how to make an Excel spreadsheet that proves Portland wins 62 games this year.
by jscot on Oct 8, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which is why he - unlike Dave who also would have the ability - gets paid to write for sites like AOL FanHouse
"I think he can still play" - Kevin Pritchard on Juwan Howard
by Norsktroll on Oct 8, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
FREE STEVE BLAKE
"Lighten up, Francis" - Sergeant Hulka
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Oct 8, 2009 1:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This game made me realize that I don't care about listening to preseason games anymore. The highlights and recap are enough.
LMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! --- LaMarvelous
by L-TrainFTW! on Oct 8, 2009 3:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
SSSHHHHHHH.
That’s because you are used to authority taking things away from you!
=m=
by Mortimer on Oct 8, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't care about the games if they were televised. It's just the preseason.
LMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! --- LaMarvelous
by L-TrainFTW! on Oct 8, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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