Kings Preseason Game Report
Sorry for the late game recap, I hit a wall after a long day yesterday and that two part marathon live blog. Going back through the tape this morning it was funny to hear Nate say the guys looked like they had heavy legs because they haven't had any time off. It's been roughly 10 days straight with either camp practice, scrimmage or a game. I've got the heavy fingers. Knowing that most of you were not able to watch or hear the game last night, this post will be more like a practice report than a real game recap.
The Basics
The Blazers won 98-86, their home fans booing when the team decided to inbound the ball in the backcourt and dribble the clock out like professionals rather than run up the score in the last 5 seconds so everyone could go home with a Chalupa. The game turned early in the second half when the Blazers brought Andre Miller, Brandon Roy, Martell Webster, LaMarcus Aldrige and Greg Oden into the game out of the halftime break. Thanks in large part to Miller, the Blazers built a comfortable double digit lead and cruised through the fourth quarter, where the end-of-bench guys like Ime Udoka were able to get some run.
What we Learned
Andre Miller
Miller played great last night, going for 16 points and 5 assists in 25 minutes. One stat to keep an eye on: 5 of 6 from the field. There's been a lot of talk about how Miller pushes the tempo and creates easy baskets for others. Let's not forget that pushing the tempo can also lead to easy baskets for himself. Most of his looks were layups, although he had a nice back-him-down turnaround jumper over rookie Tyreke Evans from the post, a shot reminiscent of the extra post work he puts in after practice that I described earlier this week.
More than anything, Miller simply attacked, attacked, attacked, causing big-time problems for Sacramento's team defense, which couldn't keep him out of the key in the halfcourt set and couldn't keep him bottled up coming out of transition. At one point he broke both of Andres Nocioni's legs with a truly vicious, hesitation through-the-leg dribble. Maybe John Canzano can email Cheri Hanson and have the Rose Garden cleaning crew get together today and help Nocioni find his dignity. I'm sure it's lying around out there somewhere.
Miller also had 3 turnovers, which is not unexpected but will be a crucial number to keep an eye on when it comes down to who Nate selects as his starting point guard. If there's a consistent aspect of Miller's turnovers so far, it's been throwing lead passes to players who leak out after turnovers that don't quite find the mark. Either he hangs the ball up a little bit too long or puts a little bit too much mustard on them, allowing the defense to scramble back. Should this type of turnover become less common as the season goes on? Probably.
One other thing with Miller: He really got his Juwan Howard on last night, feeding Greg Oden a number of times in various locations in the post. I can't say it better than Brandon did on media day: Miller threads the needle fearlessly, getting the ball in to players when and where it needs to be, something no one on last year's roster can come close to matching.
Based on the body of work from training camp through last night, I would start Andre Miller on opening night and not think twice.
Greg Oden
I know the highlight film package is out there and it heavily features Oden, so you're finally able to see the face-up jumper and a few of the other moves that the media has been describing from the Practice Facility. That brings a smile to my face. Let's share this together.
Oden looked great last night.
Everything you could want in a performance from him. And no numbers were more important than the 10-12 from the free throw line. The Kings threw everything and the kitchen sink at him, but it didn't much matter. The Kings' bigs, May, Thompson and Brockman, combined for 14 fouls and if Greg had played more than 25 minutes and the game had actually mattered, it would have been 18.
One of the most promising signs from Greg last night was his passing out of the double team, and that's one of the first things Brandon Roy noted about Greg's performance during the postgame session. Greg wasn't always doubled, and he wasn't always doubled from the same location, so even though it was the Kings it was definitely a step up from training camp in terms of difficulty in making the proper reads. Throughout the night, he was consistently on point. At worst, he made a safe pass. At best, he made a great kick out to Miller who was able to swing it across court to a cutting, wide-open Roy for an easy layup. No box score juice for Greg on that play but it was the prototypical hockey assist a dominating big man can rack up in this league.
Despite leading his team in rebounding with 9 boards tonight, I think Greg got a wake-up call on the boards. The Kings' bigs, particularly Jason Thompson, brought the ruckus, especially on their offensive glass. The Blazers uncharacteristically gave up 16 offensive rebounds which led to 16 second chance points. I'm sure that's not what Nate McMillan had in mind earlier this week when he suggested that he trusted his personnel on the defensive side of the ball. Those numbers will get you beat.
All things considered, Greg Oden has to be your opening night starter at 5.
LaMarcus Aldridge
Another guy who should not be let off the hook for the team's rebounding woes was LaMarcus Aldridge, who pulled down 5 boards - all defensive - in 27 minutes. Although he led all scorers with 20 points on an efficient 8 of 11, and looked to be the Blazer in the best rhythm, he was a little careless on the glass. Do we kill him for not maxing the effort on opening night? No. But he is in the middle of some contract negotiations so it might be in his best interests to get his Birdman on.
Speaking of that, fans during the first half chanted, "Cut the check! Cut the check!" when Aldridge stepped to the free throw line. Soapbox: if you believe the Blazers should sign LaMarcus Aldridge prior to this year's deadline, I encourage you to make that fact known during the Blazers' next preseason games and the first two home games, October 27 against the Rockets, and October 29 against the Nuggets. I sense hesitancy from many media members to touch the issue after the way Brandon Roy's negotiations played out. Public pressure, although not a be-all end-all solution, is better than nothing. I can see advantages to letting Aldridge enter restricted free agency but I know many of you don't feel that should be an option. If that's the case, be vocal at games and let the organization know about it.
Quick Hits
A sentence or two on everyone who played so you can get a sense for where they are.
Nic Batum: After looking like the best player during the Fan Fest, Batum played just 9 minutes last night and was a relative non-factor. Nate said he rested Batum not due to any issue with Nic's shoulder but to give him a breather after his long summer and to see more of Martell Webster.
Joel Przybilla: Joel was Joel, an efficient 6 and 6, although he took a nasty knee from Francisco Garcia to his baby maker and writhed around in pain on the floor for a few minutes. Nate McMillan reports that Joel will be alright but may see limited playing time tomorrow.
Brandon Roy: A 3 for 11 stinker that left Roy asking McMillan for more minutes tomorrow night out of a desire to find his personal rhythm, which he told me after the game that he hasn't found yet this season. During the second half, Roy was shaking his head at one of the replacement official's phantom calls (overall, I thought the officials were inconsistent but not terrible, although the Blazers shot 46 free throws so... um... it was a long night). After the game, Roy said this to me about the officials...
Um, they did the best they could. (laughs). I think it was somewhat earlier in the game that threw our rhythm off. I think both teams wanted to play up and down a little bit and the foul calls kind of slowed the tempo. Those are our officials so we have to do the best we can to play well.
Steve Blake: Blake had a relatively unremarkable night and saw most of his action in the first half. He flew by Kings rookie Tyreke Evans at least twice, which surprised a number of observers, and used that penetration to dish out 4 assists.
Rudy Fernandez: Drew huge cheers from the Rose Garden but didn't deliver on them. I don't know whether it's fatigue or what, but his shot looked particularly off. He went 0 for 3 - all from distance - and was a non-factor.
Jerryd Bayless: Was outplayed by Sergio Rodriguez. There I said it.
Ime Udoka: Made a nice driving layup on the first possession after he checked into the ballgame. Not much of note to draw out of the garbage time play other than to verify that he still has a pulse.
Travis Outlaw: Outlaw had a few heady plays, particularly when it came to leaking out after the defense caused a turnover. He seems a prime target for Miller's long, looping push-the-tempo passes. Unfortunately, Outlaw also had one of the ugliest shots I've ever seen, described here.
Martell Webster: Look at the box and it tells you Martell struggled to go 2 for 7 and wasn't that productive in the other categories during the 30 minutes he played. But this was an important game for Martell and he had a huge smile on his face afterwards. The highlight of his night was collecting the ball after a busted play and attacking the defense, drawing attention before dumping the ball off to a wide-open Andre Miller for a gift layup. The play was quick, spontaneous, intelligent, well-timed... everything you hope to see from someone who is returning from a long-term injury. Nic Batum is your opening night starter at 3.
Parting Shot
I hope you saw this: the Rose Garden Garage was charging $40 for valet parking for a preseason game yet the team still could not bring itself to televise the game.
Perhaps the recession is hitting the organization worse than we've previously assumed.
Nate's Postgame Comments
Thoughts?
Oh, that's a great film for us to teach from. We needed that game to look at ourselves and to see where we are at. We have a lot of work ahead of us. One good thing is that we got to the free throw line 46 times. But other than that we got some work. They beat us to the ball, offensive rebounding, we didn't react as quickly as we needed to. We'd force them to miss but 16 offensive boards, and that's been an emphasis during this training camp.
Miller
You just saw him direct. I thought he did a good job of quarterbacking and directing. Basically running our counter sets whenever the defense make some mistakes he just played basketball and made some reads. He went into the post a couple of times and he felt like he had a matchup there. Delivered the ball, had a few skills. He's the one guy who is communicating and talking on the defensive end of the floor.
Second Half Lineup different from Starters
I'm going to look at combinations during training camp. Go with different lineups. I told the guys before the game that this is what I was going to do. Change the looks, some different combinations of players together.
Greg Oden
Got deep post position, scored, did some good things. Looked pretty good out there when we were able to get him the ball, allow him to make some decisions. I thought he had a pretty good game.
What to address?
No, I wanted us to come out with a little bit more energy, scrapping, having some fun. I thought we kind of slugged it out. I thought we had heavy legs. Our guys haven't had a day off and it kind of looked that way tonight. They found a way to pull it out and win it. It's a great teaching tape, a lot of things that we did as far as our defense, our shadow, we'll see ourselves standing and watching them rebound the ball. We did get to the free throw line which is a guy for us every night. We get there 46 times. You're playing pretty aggressive basketball, I'd like to see more flow. I think we could have gotten more flow if we had rebounded the ball and been able to get out in transition.
The team is playing with more energy from Andre?
It's the first preseason game. To be sharp right out of the gate you hope for that, but you also know that you need this game to get a feel so that they can see and we can see what we need to do and what we didn't do.
Lineups For Tomorrow?
Yes. No, no, not right now. I'm going to talk to Jay and see where guys are at. But those guys that didn't play tonight, Howard, Collins, Ime played a few minutes, I really want to give Nic and Rudy some time off and not play them a lot of minutes. So we'll see tomorrow.
Nic Batum's Status
No, not an injury. Nic and Rudy have been playing all summer so I'm going to try to limit their limits. The guys I really want to see are Martell and see Miller with different combinations.
Who might rest tomorrow?
I talked to Joel, we may not go with Joel, we may go Greg and Collins. Brandon wants to play and get some minutes. We maybe look at Joel and LaMarcus.
Joel was injured?
No, I think he's ok. I think he's ok.
-- Ben (benjamin.golliver@gmail.com)
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i haven't read this yet but...
FINALLY!!! I haven’t been able to work while i waited for this!
"Fernandez, to my eyes, is the Blazer who walks that walk most comfortably. A lot of Portland's fans (egged on, dare I say, by their local broadcasters) lament things like how Ron Artest or Yao Ming get to hit Brandon Roy's arms.
But I suspect Fernandez sees all that and thinks: We get to hit arms! Cool!"
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-39-135/On-Playoff-Experience.html
"I told Pau the Lakers never win here in Portland; I think it's great." -- Rudy Fernandez
I couldn't sleep til I read this.
Thanks again for the ticket… Those were EXCELLENT seats!
Blazers win!
wow
been said that Sergio looked better? Amazing!!!
I’m actually curious as to how sergio did. His stats aren’t great, but did he look good actually playing? Did the crowd cheer him? Boo him?
The glimpses I’ve seen of the game, Oden looked pretty good and even better than he did in the practice video you posted. Has Oden been improving or was that just because I only saw clips of highlights?
"Fernandez, to my eyes, is the Blazer who walks that walk most comfortably. A lot of Portland's fans (egged on, dare I say, by their local broadcasters) lament things like how Ron Artest or Yao Ming get to hit Brandon Roy's arms.
But I suspect Fernandez sees all that and thinks: We get to hit arms! Cool!"
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-39-135/On-Playoff-Experience.html
"I told Pau the Lakers never win here in Portland; I think it's great." -- Rudy Fernandez
sergio didn’t look good. but he was able to draw a number of fouls and knock down his free throws.
bayless was really struggling.
by Ben Golliver on Oct 7, 2009 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Sergio was sooo bad, I felt bad for him...
he was really trying extra hard to stick it to the Blazers but it didn’t work out. The fadeaway 3pt bricker with the shot clock winding down summed up his night…
As for Rex, I didn’t think he got enough minutes to get into the flow of the game but someone definitely needs to show him to look up on a fast break or basically just look up when he has a defender on his hip.
Whenever Sergio touched the ball
I was always afraid of what would happen not. His instincts would often fail him.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I want him to succeed
But except for a few Spanish connection plays I was never a fan.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
people cheered when he came in
not wildly, but noticeably.
One of the first things he did was pick up a deserved but stupid foul for being overly aggressive. He had some turnovers, and made a few nice passes, scored a little.
I would say he looked exactly like he did as a Blazer. He looks better in purple than in red, though, so that’s a plus for him.
We've always been good about cheering former players
Except when JR Rider came back. But I was at the game when Drexler came back years ago and he got a five minute standing O when he was introduced.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I remember his one man "full court pressure"
That was basically just to annoy the fans. He fouled Jerryd in the penalty. Thanks Serg!
"Goals are good. Plans are better." -Ben.
by Sabonis4Ever on Oct 7, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Man, it is so good to talk about a Blazer game....
…..albeit a game that few were able to see. But hey, it’s a game nonetheless.
I’m excited to read that Miller and Oden had really good games. Those were the two I was wondering about.
"I'm a man, but I can change.....if I have to......I guess." - Red Green
Sweet game to watch...
…unfortunately my seat was in the company box—while the snacks are nice, it’s more fun to sit in the stands.
Oden looked great—he had a wicked spin move in the first half that had folks on their feet.
Andre looked great—although Steve Blake was his usual self, the Blazers played at a different level with Miller on the floor.
Nobody could buy a bucket from the outside, it seemed.
And yes, Rex looked pretty bad. Though as Ben indicated, Sergio did nothing to cause me regret.
And my son was rather upset to not receive a chalupa. :)
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Rich, me?
I wish. :)
They occasionally pass out free tickets to us grunts. I was lucky to be checking email at the time the announcement went out—first come, first served.
But if I were rich, I wouldn’t be sitting in the box. I’d be sitting at courtside, holding up a “Hi, Mortimer!” sign.
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by EngineerScotty on Oct 7, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The sign would be made of gold and diamonds
Later to be discarded in the gutter along with his chalupa coupons.
I get the paper, so I don't care!
No, I'd hire Paul Allen to throw it in the trash for me.
and make him call me Mister Scotty.
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by EngineerScotty on Oct 7, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Prime example of
A dick in a box.
"Goals are good. Plans are better." -Ben.
by Sabonis4Ever on Oct 7, 2009 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Miller is OG
I am frankly peeing myself with excitement to see what the Blazers are going to do this year. Good basketball will be seen. Also, Oden does indeed look like a basketball player. A very large, quick athletic basketball player. I pity the rest of the NBA.
I pity whoever washes your clothes
"Goals are good. Plans are better." -Ben.
by Sabonis4Ever on Oct 7, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks to Ratbastard I was at the game
and is was suprising to me that only 17,000 fans showed up for it. Lots of big patches of empty seats in the 200 level, and a lot of season ticket holders didn’t bother to come. I am guessing this is why there are no TV games.
Oden was awsome, Miller played well live, but didn’t really stand out that much to me, I was kind of suprised by his boxscore stats.
Hopefully Greg continues this level of play as it would force Nate to start him.
Ben II Blazersedge.com || New to Blazers' Edge?
Honestly if there wasnt' a pre-season game in my 1/4 season package
I wouldn’t be going to any of them (I have the Denver game).
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
"Miller played well live, but didn’t really stand out that much to me, I was kind of suprised by his boxscore stats."
Paired with Roy…we will have the most underrated backcourt in history.
"Goals are good. Plans are better." -Ben.
by Sabonis4Ever on Oct 7, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Well I just figured that was a given!
That section was great, great fans all around.
Ben II Blazersedge.com || New to Blazers' Edge?
Man, that jumper from Oden was even better than I immagined!
Miller, Roy, Batum, Adridge, Oden (RAMBO as pointed out before) is my starting lineup for opening night. What about you guys?
B-Roy got PAID!!!
RAMBO
Is amazing as a lineup and an acronym.
I hope I can get a bunch of championships, like 15. " - Greg Oden
aaaaggggghhhhh
Totally messed up.
My life is over.
Those should be bolded like normal.
What will all of you think of me…
M—
You probably need a space after the second *
or you could just USE THE BOLDFACE BUTTON!
Don’t they give you oxygen down there?
And against the Celtics
Roy
Aldridge
Miller
Batum
Oden
Webster
"Goals are good. Plans are better." -Ben.
by Sabonis4Ever on Oct 7, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Wait
*R*oy
*A*ldridge
*M*artell
*B*lake
*O*den
Controversy!!!
As author of Da BOM (Blazer Optimist Manifesto), I hereby certify that we will win 62 games in the regular season. Disagree at your peril.
by jscot on Oct 7, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
No.
Least not the Blake part, sorry Blakey not cool enough to be in the RAMBO click!
B-Roy got PAID!!!
Didn't you see that picture of him dripping blood?
Who else on the team throws chairs around, anyway?
As author of Da BOM (Blazer Optimist Manifesto), I hereby certify that we will win 62 games in the regular season. Disagree at your peril.
And during blowouts...
*J*erryd
*S*teve
*C*unningham
*O*den
*T*ravis
"I think he can still play" - Kevin Pritchard on Juwan Howard
by Norsktroll on Oct 7, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That team rules
As author of Da BOM (Blazer Optimist Manifesto), I hereby certify that we will win 62 games in the regular season. Disagree at your peril.
Chalupa booing
This is the second time I’ve seen it brought up in a scolding tone.
So I have to ask…you do realize that we were kidding, right? If you held out to the end of the game, you know that the whole thing was pretty choppy, especially the last few minutes. In my section, people started entertaining themselves by doing the Chalupa watch. There were a lot of kids there, so they got into it.
Everyone knew we would dribble out the clock. Some folks in my section booed in a joking way, thinking it funny. I don’t think anyone over the age of 10 was actually upset not to get a coupon for a nasty taco. The booing lasted maybe 5 seconds and was replaced by cheers as the team ran off the floor.
Since this seems to have bothered you, I want to reassure you — as a Chalupa booer — that it was all in good fun, that we understand sportmanship and dribbling out the clock, and that we’re not just a pack of grease-junky hicks that you need to to wag your finger at.
Thanks for the great site and great coverage. Go Blazers!
by Hawthorne Wingo on Oct 7, 2009 11:00 AM PDT reply actions
let me put it to you this way: the players and coaching staff hear the boos and they don’t think about it long enough to parse whether you’re kidding or not.
by Ben Golliver on Oct 7, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Fair enough, but...
They know the booing is about Chalupas, right? Not a general comment on the team, or the game, or Ime, or sportsmanship generally? I was there, and there’s no reasonable possibility that a grown man could misunderstand what the booing was about.
Look, if anything about the free Chalupas — cheering, booing, chanting, whatever — causes the players or coaches any anguish, then the entire stupid promotion should be stopped. It’s not worth a moment of their time or attention.
But if it’s going to be part of the game (in the way dog races or the blind dash for appliances are “part of the game”), then I think it’s a little much to expect the fans to follow some sort of Chalupa Code of Conduct.
Honestly, I thought it was mildly funny. That’s all. You have contact with the guys, I don’t, and your comment makes me think that you know something, like maybe there were some hurt feelings. If so, I don’t think that’s what anyone intended (and frankly I find it remarkable that grown men would have that reaction to something so obviously silly). But if you’re telling us that it bothers the team and the coaches, I’ll never do it again.
by Hawthorne Wingo on Oct 7, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
I think we can have the separation to find it funny
I think the players and coaches, after a relatively easy but tiring win, just go “man, we win and they’re BOOING us over stupid tacos? SIGH”.
It’s likely just a bummer thing to hear that hits them emotionally before they can even really think about it. They wanna hear CHEERS after a game, not ironic boos.
M—
And I vote to get rid of chalupas
OR just make it everyone gets one whenever we win, so we’re cheering for something GOOD and not just 100 points.
M—
Agree with both ideas
and with your comment above. I know LeBron complained about it last year. Seems like maybe the promotion has outlived it’s usefulness.
by Hawthorne Wingo on Oct 7, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, it just makes everyone focus on the wrong thing
Especially in wins like this, where the ending isn’t tense and we’re just dribbling out the clock for the last 5 minutes of the game.
They can cover giving everyone a free coupon after every home win, I am sure, especially since I suspect the majority don’t cash them in.
—M
Agree
I was at the game and was, well, angry that people were booing because of a taco? Why are you there, fans? For a free taco, or for a great athletic display of years of dedication and training . . . which is aligned with good sportsmanship? Bad sportsmanship on the part of the fans, I think.
"I never give in to the temptation to be difficult just for the sake of being difficult. That would be too ridiculous"
Jacques Derrida
First Darius Miles...and now Tacos
What will Portland boo next?
"Goals are good. Plans are better." -Ben.
by Sabonis4Ever on Oct 7, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
The in-game "entertainment" in general gets fans focusing on the wrong thing
Back when the team stank, that was good strategy. But not for some time now. The promotions, races, blaring crap music, etc. just distract from the exciting action on the basketball court.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
by hurryup09 on Oct 7, 2009 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
yep
"I never give in to the temptation to be difficult just for the sake of being difficult. That would be too ridiculous"
Jacques Derrida
yup
i’ve been agreeing with that for awhile.
"Fernandez, to my eyes, is the Blazer who walks that walk most comfortably. A lot of Portland's fans (egged on, dare I say, by their local broadcasters) lament things like how Ron Artest or Yao Ming get to hit Brandon Roy's arms.
But I suspect Fernandez sees all that and thinks: We get to hit arms! Cool!"
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-39-135/On-Playoff-Experience.html
"I told Pau the Lakers never win here in Portland; I think it's great." -- Rudy Fernandez
Last year Bulls fans were really booing when they didn't get their Big Mac
"I think he can still play" - Kevin Pritchard on Juwan Howard
The emotional wound caused them to lose to the Celtics in the playoffs. I’m fairly certain about that. Well, that and VDN playing bad lineups.
"I think he can still play" - Kevin Pritchard on Juwan Howard
And players not being able to eat in the locker room
Just think how far they would’ve gone if chalupas, Big Macs, and peanut butter sandwiches hadn’t been banned from the locker room.
Brad Miller refused to pass to Noah after he snitched on him for eating a McChicken
"Goals are good. Plans are better." -Ben.
by Sabonis4Ever on Oct 7, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I think the players and coaches, after a relatively easy but tiring win, just go "man, we win and they’re BOOING us over stupid tacos? SIGH".
exactly. it’s out of their minds 10 seconds later. but that’s the reaction.
by Ben Golliver on Oct 7, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Think of all the poor kids sitting in the stands
“Daddy, we are ever so hungry and could use a Chalupa; why don’t the Blazers love us?”
It is folks like you who don’t want the 400 kids Dave wants to send to a game to enjoy warm fresh Chalupas. I guess you’d rather they go hungry and malnourished.
You’re all high and mighty thinking it’s good for the players to deny their fans a free meal in thiese hash economic times.
For shame Mortimer, for shame.
I think the players play for the cheers
and if you boo them, while they are lying their physical and emotional and mental energies on display, full well knowing their efforts are a culmination of years of dedication to be the best construction of human beings known to man kind in the field of a particular sport, well I might be a bit bitter at my fans and their understanding of sport in general, if tacos were the underlying factor in the minds of fans. I might actually lose some motivation. I might be bitter at the U.S.
Anyone ever seen fans at a european soccer event? No taco chants there. Pure dedication to the complete and utter dedication to the physical game.
"I never give in to the temptation to be difficult just for the sake of being difficult. That would be too ridiculous"
Jacques Derrida
Really?
Pure dedication to getting drunk, before, during, and after the game.
As author of Da BOM (Blazer Optimist Manifesto), I hereby certify that we will win 62 games in the regular season. Disagree at your peril.
They may be drunk (unfortunately)
but they don’t care about a free taco after the left midfielder does a bicycle kick into the right upper corner of the net. And the players certainly aren’t hearing Cha -lu -pa!
Although, there might be some unfortunate physical fan altercations because of the beer. Choose your demons, I guess.
Go sports without constant commercial intervention (and with moderate beer consumption)!
Wow. I guess that’s a lot to ask for.
Go Blazers!!!
"I never give in to the temptation to be difficult just for the sake of being difficult. That would be too ridiculous"
Jacques Derrida
Physical altercations
Europeans don’t do war anymore, they do football.
As author of Da BOM (Blazer Optimist Manifesto), I hereby certify that we will win 62 games in the regular season. Disagree at your peril.
Been to France lately
wanting to wear a burka?
"I never give in to the temptation to be difficult just for the sake of being difficult. That would be too ridiculous"
Jacques Derrida
Been to France
but a burka would hide my lovely figure and beautiful face.
We’ll probably have a war within ten to fifteen years. Either immigration, or the ECB will set rates in a way that destroys someone’s economy, or youth disorder, will give some demagogue an opportunity to come to power somewhere, and war will come of it.
EMU is an idea that has merits, but is having unintended consequences in places like Ireland and the Med countries. It is fostering resentment, and resentment coupled with high unemployment (especially youth unemployment) leads to trouble.
As author of Da BOM (Blazer Optimist Manifesto), I hereby certify that we will win 62 games in the regular season. Disagree at your peril.
I'd rather be in the stands full of people booing over Chalupas
Than in stands full of people not wearing deodorant.
USA! USA! USA!
America is A # 1!
by tominhawaii on Oct 7, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nobody never uses that Chalupa coupon anyway
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Oct 7, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Tell that to my Chalupa-crazed daughters
First question they ask when I get back from a game. (And I say that in full awareness that it makes us sound like we should be on Jerry Springer).
by Hawthorne Wingo on Oct 7, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
As much as I think Dre should start, my instincts tell me it might be better for us to keep last years unit intact.
Until Broy assimilates with Dre. Seeing Oden, Miller, Rudy, Travis and Martell come off the bench gave me the chillis. That unit also did a better job of rotating on defense.
It should be noted too that Travis was really hustling out there, using his length and all his strength he can muster to guard the opposing 4 at the post. He wasn’t too bad at it and it was good to see the effort.
Martell is also a lot more athletic than we give him for. He pounds the glass. The Kings sucked so bad with their shooting that every shot bricked out to the 3 pt line…which gave them easy offensive boards. Our guards/forwards crashed the boards but they should block out first, esp with a bad shooting team. Please learn from GO even though I did point out that GO blocked out too much.
One thing I hope Andre shows BRoy is his post moves. Tyreke was bigger than Andre but he just dominated him in the post. If Broy can add that to his game, playing him at point is not a bad idea to punish the CP3s/Parkers of the world when we have our big lineup in.
We blow them out by 25 tonight with DC scoring 15 pts in his debut.
Glad to see Trout actually come into camp in shape
For once, good for him.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
that's not fair
as there have been reasons in previous years as to why he didn’t.
"Fernandez, to my eyes, is the Blazer who walks that walk most comfortably. A lot of Portland's fans (egged on, dare I say, by their local broadcasters) lament things like how Ron Artest or Yao Ming get to hit Brandon Roy's arms.
But I suspect Fernandez sees all that and thinks: We get to hit arms! Cool!"
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-39-135/On-Playoff-Experience.html
"I told Pau the Lakers never win here in Portland; I think it's great." -- Rudy Fernandez
7 for 10, all midrange spot up jumpers
"Goals are good. Plans are better." -Ben.
by Sabonis4Ever on Oct 7, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Did you really get chills?
Frickin’ fans are getting chills these days from smelling Greg Oden’s farts.
it's hard to determine
whether those are chills or just plain ol’ shudders
I wish I spent more time playing catch with you and less time training my body and mind to kill you...
Serious question on Chalupas
Does anyone ever actually cash in their coupons for that crap? You’d have to pay me to get me to eat that…
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Sounds about right
That’s about the quality Taco Bell is.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
It's like watching a Stallone or Van Damme actioner.
You know it’s trashy but you kick-back and enjoy it for what it is.
If you want better food, go get it. Do you eat at only the finest dining establishments?
Buncha food snobs. I ate a Whopper meal last night and loved every bite.
I’ll take those chalupa coupons if you don’t want them.
I'll eat trashy food
I like Burger King. Its just that Taco Bell is THAT much worse.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I find this hard to believe
Since Burger King has cracked the UK market, and Taco Bell hasn’t, Burger King MUST be more trashy.
As author of Da BOM (Blazer Optimist Manifesto), I hereby certify that we will win 62 games in the regular season. Disagree at your peril.
Taco Bell’s main appeal is to really drunk and/or stoned people who don’t care what things taste like late at night. Seriously.
We have lots of people like that in the UK
As author of Da BOM (Blazer Optimist Manifesto), I hereby certify that we will win 62 games in the regular season. Disagree at your peril.
We put the high in hi-def
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by EngineerScotty on Oct 7, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I've been to one game in the last few years.
We won and got over 100. I was really excited about my Chalupa. But I guess I went out the wrong door, because I didn’t get any coupon. I’m still pissed.
Disclaimer: everything I know about basketball I learned on Blazersedge.
lol
"Goals are good. Plans are better." -Ben.
by Sabonis4Ever on Oct 7, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Did you go down the stairs and straight out to the street?
You need to head back into the concourse and out one of the main doors.
"Goals are good. Plans are better." -Ben.
by Sabonis4Ever on Oct 7, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I sure as hell cash them in.
And take them from the people that don’t want to.
Err...
let the organization be vocal at games and let the organization know about it
Shouldn’t that read “be vocal at games…”? Or I envision getting the secretarial pool together to chant on LA’s behalf.
Fourth paragraph, last sentence. It's lying, not laying.
Not crying, just saying.
Don’t hate me Ben, you know I almost never do this.
thanks miled, fixed. typo killed the joke too.
by Ben Golliver on Oct 7, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree with you Ben on your starting lineup
I originally thought Martell over Batum & still think that is still the 1 position up in the air. I do think that if Martell is truely OK coming off the bench thats OK with me but Oden & Andre should definitely start!
"BEER IS LIVING PROOF THAT GOD LOVES US"
- Benjamin Franklin-
Jerryd Bayless and Travis Outlaw
Don’t Sign a Long Term Lease you’ll be in another city by January.
GO is going to put his stamp on the Western Conference…
Old School … Hack A Shaq
New School… Grab a Greg
The difference GO can make freethrows!
"I've been here before. I know what to do. I'm going to be ready. It's a long season. I don't mind coming off the bench, whatever. Of course I want to start too. But I'm just going to be ready to play." -- Joel Przybilla
A 3 for 11 stinker that left Roy asking McMillan for more minutes tomorrow night out of a desire to find his personal rhythm.
Selfish.
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
can someone
post a box score? and did the donnell taylor or quinton hosley play?
cash rules everything around me CREAM get tha money dolla dolla bill yaaaaallll
by staceyaugmon4HOF on Oct 7, 2009 11:25 AM PDT reply actions
both were cut last week. cunningham howard and of course pendergraph all had DNP-CDs
by Ben Golliver on Oct 7, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
How could Pendergraph be CD?
These kinds of details are so important in preseason.
As author of Da BOM (Blazer Optimist Manifesto), I hereby certify that we will win 62 games in the regular season. Disagree at your peril.
Coach didn't like his ball handling in crutch time
"I think he can still play" - Kevin Pritchard on Juwan Howard
by Norsktroll on Oct 7, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
NBA site has your box score..
click here to see it.
by spencerbutte on Oct 7, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
I was watching NBA Gametime this morning, with Rick Kamla and Steve Smith.
They showed highlights from the Utah-Chicago game, but that was it. I’m sure they would have showed footage of other preseason games if such footage existed. We’re not the only NBA fans who don’t get to watch preseason games.
I'm like a proud father
Me and my buddies started the “Cut the check!” chant up in 312 when LMA was at the line for the first time (we had discussed the chant earlier in the week and were almost too excited to start it when we realized he had been fouled). Now, not only does Joe Freeman mention it on OLive, but we get some BEdge recognition! Truly amazing.
I agree 100% with Ben. If you’re one of the people who agrees with The Juice and thinks the team needs to get the Aldridge deal done ASAP, let it be known. This is a vital piece to this team and he needs to be for years to come. So shout it out!
I want Greg Oden to tuck me in at night and tell me stories about the old times
by Juiceman76 on Oct 7, 2009 11:32 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
If you want them to pay LMA
You need to be ok with the higher ticket prices too.
I hope I can get a bunch of championships, like 15. " - Greg Oden
What if you're one of the other people?
We should start a chant of “RFA” or something.
Disclaimer: everything I know about basketball I learned on Blazersedge.
"Don't pull out your wallet Paul"
Doesn’t sound as catchy.
"Goals are good. Plans are better." -Ben.
juice. good job. you made hoopshype today. your message went national. http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm
Worth the wait.
Easy for me to say as I got a last minute ticket from a fellow Bedger (thanks again, Sean M!).
The line about Noc looking for his dignity is all-time. Great stuff.
Oden and Andre looked great, Roy looked a little slow, I think it’s safe to say Rudy is in a Euro-induced slump. Not worried either way. He’ll shoot his way out of it.
Most NBA teams can’t stop a combination of our white and black squads. We are so deep. Can’t wait to toss it up for real.
....formerly GonzoFan. Now, this has been a message from "The People's Alliance to Continue to Encourage Greg Oden on his Path to Dominance"
by bforsythe on Oct 7, 2009 11:36 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Parking
the Rose Garden Garage was charging $40 for valet parking for a preseason game
What are people doing driving to the Rose Garden???? It’s. Right. On. The. MAX! I hope they charge $80 during the season. Get your fat a$$es out of your cars.
Because the max goes down every single street in the Portland metro area, and all the way down to Salem.
Public transport is not an option for everyone.
I hope I can get a bunch of championships, like 15. " - Greg Oden
That's why you can park near a max stop.
Disclaimer: everything I know about basketball I learned on Blazersedge.
I completely agree
Use a park & ride and take the Max. So much easier and given the traffic right after a game it doesn’t take really any more time. It’s the only way I attend Blazer games.
agreed
I hate the argument that public transit is the answer, it works for some but I have yet to have a job where i really could take public transit. Maybe occasionally to something downtown but even then it is never as convenient or cheap as driving myself.
I hope I can get a bunch of championships, like 15. " - Greg Oden
That's why we need more public transit
:)
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by EngineerScotty on Oct 7, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Public transit that corporate Rose Garden-box-inhabiting,
caviar-eating elitists like you will see only as you flip off the sweat-dripping hoi polloi packed cheek-to-jowl inside the bulging streetcars you zoom past in your chauffered limosine.
That was a very strange game.
Odd to see the worst rebounding team completely dominate the best rebounding team on the boards, and STILL lose. We just wore down the Kings by the end of the 3rd q.
Individual observations: I will ignore the obvious Miller/Oden praising…they were good.
Something that stuck out to me was that Brandon looks rail thin out there, almost too thin. Does anybody think that’s going to impact his ability to play in a 3 guard lineup, where ostensibly he HAS to guard the opposing 3? He got to the hoop and displayed his usual array of layups, but obviously his shot was off. Kings did a good job containing him, showing him a moving double whenever he touched the ball. He can really exploit that defensive attention if he becomes more comfortable dishing out of a P&R to our cutting bigs, especially since Aldridge and Oden will always finish, or at least get 2 FT.
"B-Roy is the best shooting guard I have played against"
-Ron Artest
he did look smaller out there
It would be hard to judge on this game alone, since he seemed so off. we will have to wait and see.
Which 3's in the league will he be too thin to guard?
Not many.
"Goals are good. Plans are better." -Ben.
Melo, LeBron, Artest off the top of my head, but you are right that there aren't too many with a clear size advantage.
Artest is the big one though. Nobody can really guard LeBron or Melo, but last year’s Roy could have bodied up against Artest effectively enough, this year’s Roy gives up too much mass. Plus I thought for Roy’s game, a bigger body was good cuz it allowed him to absorb a lot of contact. We’ll see if his new physique helps him with his quickness and agility.
"B-Roy is the best shooting guard I have played against"
-Ron Artest
Maybe Iggy as well, but thats only 4 guys
We can just use a different lineup for those games.
"Goals are good. Plans are better." -Ben.
Or zone while Roy is at the 3
As author of Da BOM (Blazer Optimist Manifesto), I hereby certify that we will win 62 games in the regular season. Disagree at your peril.
game recap from 116
I was actually sitting pretty close to the court and got to see the players closer than I ever have. Here’s a couple of things I noticed:
The whole team seemed to be going at about 75% percent, and that number even seems high. I guess it can be expected for a first game in a season with new rotations and players. I am confident this will all be sorted out by the start of the season.
Andre Miller talks a lot on the court. The guy truly is like a QB out there, directing traffic. I was impressed by the amount of information he was feeding to teammates out there. I thought it was strange to see him sitting on the baseline by himself, but the whole time he was yelling, calling out screens.. great addition to the team. Miller seems like that older guy you play with at the gym, that keeps killing you no matter how much more faster or athletic you are. The guy just knows how to play controlled basketball at his pace. He carries himself like a vet. I like that a lot.
LA’s jumper is incredible to see up close. It’s effortless, so smooth. I would have liked to see him take it at Hawes or Brockman more. He is looking like he will have his All-star year this year.
Greg- One word that described his play, comfortable. He seemed in control and when he spun on Hawes and almost had that dunk my entire section lost it. We all stood up and cheered. His hard work this summer is evident in every aspect of his game. You gotta like what he showed.
At no point in this game did it seem like we would lose. Sergio looked exactly like he did when he played here, minus a Rudy to pass to. Tyreke Evans is the real deal. He will do some things this year. The Kings overall are a terrible team. How is Sean May so bad? I’m not sure what he brings to the table for that team, fouls maybe? Anyways this was a fun game, I only hope the crowd will be more like last year when the real season starts.
It was a strange game...
It was fun to be back in the Rose Garden though!
The crowd had a hard time getting into it, as did both teams.
Oden showed up, and looked capable, comfortable, and something you now worry about as an opposing team.
Dre looked like the smartest guy on the floor and showed it many times – except for some Favre-esque forces down the field that even Travis’ hops couldn’t grab. He is an interesting guy – the way he walks the floor, communicates, acts on the sideline.
Roy wasn’t Roy for whatever reason. A little sandbaggin’ or cruise control set at 35mph…
LaMarcus was typical LaMarcus, and that’s a good thing.
Rudy will get there. Bayless? Dang man, I’m sorry, you’re a great kid, hard worker, passionate about the game, but I’m ready to help you pack.
Heady plays by Outlaw....Love It !!!
But how many fouls did Joel have last night ? Even with the knee from Garcia ?
That is still my biggest concern at the 5, and the only reason I would go against every other Blazer fan on the planet and sign Collins with the last roster spot.
Boo to the fans for the " cut the check", it’s a distraction people. Let them play .
"That's just how I get down"........ Andre Miller
Link to Dre's move on Nocioni
http://www.blazersedge.com/2009/10/7/1075236/say-hi-to-andre-noanklescioni
At one point he broke both of Andres Nocioni’s legs with a truly vicious, hesitation through-the-leg dribble
From the AP recap:
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There was one scary moment when Sacramento forward Francisco Garcia went up to shoot over Joel Przybilla and kneed the Blazers’ center in the rib cage.
Hmmm…so that’s where babies come from…
The cowards never started
The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers
It's in the bible, I think
Or maybe it was women, not babies.
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by EngineerScotty on Oct 7, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I can't expressed how SHOCKED I am...
…that you, Ben, would think Andre should start over Blake… Revelation!!!…
While I am an admitted Blake fan (and homer) I must say that I will not be surprised or disappointed if Miller earns the starting job. I would like to say that annointing him the starter based on one pre-season game makes about as much sense as giving the job to Blake because he was the fanfest MVP.
It’s going to be exciting to see how this all pans out…
Side Note… I gave in to the corporate monster yesterday and ended my 7 year relationship with DirecTV. Yes I sold my Blazer soul to the Comcast Devil so I could get Comcast Sports NW and Versus… (I feel dirty to be honest…but what’s a guy to do)
Andre is great posting up

You can’t stop me from doing what I want to do, only try to contain me

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Did anyone mention Greg hustles for loose balls now? Photo AP

"I think he can still play" - Kevin Pritchard on Juwan Howard
Only televised game?
When is the only preseason game televised? Or is it indeed no preseason games are going to be televised

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