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Monday Training Camp Report

I was numbering these reports "Day 1," "Day 2," etc. but it's starting to run together and I can't really count that high. Good thing I can read a calendar.

No huge stories from training camp today but there were a few interesting tidbits. Let's dig in.

Nate McMillan Believes in His Defense

Nate set his starting lineup for tomorrow night and it was no surprise: Blake, Roy, Batum, Aldridge, Przybilla. He also said he would experiment with various starting lineups later during the preseason and would communicate regularly with Brandon to keep an eye on his minutes.

I thought the most interesting thing McMillan said today, though, was in response to a question about Kings rookie guard Tyreke Evans.  Evans, a highly-touted prospect coming out of high school and after his one year in college at Memphis, would seem to have franchise-player level potential for the Sacramento Kings. Sure, Kevin Martin is the man right now but with his size and strength at the point Evans could become a transformational player for a team that badly needs one.

I asked Nate what he thought about Evans but he offered only generalities...

A lot of people liked him. Our scouts liked him. Big guard, I didn't do a lot of homework on him because we didn't pursue him. We knew that he would be somebody going high. Supposed to be a pretty good guard.

The interesting part came when I asked whether Evans or Martin were the type of players you might adjust your defense to focus on.  In the past, Nate has praised certain opposing players in advance of games, noting that the Blazers have to limit their offense in certain ways, whether it's denying them certain spots on the floor, always getting a body on a guy when shots go up, playing pick-and-rolls particularly tight, etc.  

Nate's response about how he's approaching tomorrow night's game defensively...  

We're going to just play our rules. For us, it's all about us being concerned about us, and not so much about what other things do. There are 29 teams. If you try to do something different for every team you get yourself in trouble. It's about what we do. Doing the things that we've worked on. Being solid and being connected out there on the floor.     
What do I take from that? A confidence in the skill level of his personnel on the defensive side, a confidence I'm not sure was there last year.  Martell Webster echoed his coach's sentiment...
It's just experience. We know what we have to do. We just play our rules. It's not really going to be honed on individual matchups. It's going to come down to us doing what we do, and that's playing our defense.
I'm not sure to what degree these comments are inspired by the Kings relatively weak personnel, the fact that it's only the first preseason game and there's not much on the line, or something else entirely.  But it feels like a new-look. The message seemed to be that the Blazers don't need to gimmick their way through the season defensively.

That confidence in defensive self is a luxury that good teams have, developing teams strive for, and bad teams dream about.  I see these statements from Nate as another indication of how the coaching staff feels its roster compares to the rest of the league. 

Andre Miller

I'm going to start a new, ongoing segment called "I can't tell you much about Andre Miller but I can tell you..." to collect the little portions of information that float to the surface about Portland's most secretive player and personality.

Last night it was a description of his back tattoo; today it's his cooldown routine.  Miller closed practice with some extra jumpers today but he also went through shooting drills from a number of different spots in the mid-post.  He would catch and face, turnaround over his left shoulder, turnaround over his right shoulder, bank shots in from the elbow, practice coming across the lane shooting the ball way out in front of him looking to draw fouls, you name it.  A very thorough post workout for any player, much less a point guard.

Miller hit these midrange shots at an unbelievable rate, roughly 80% by my count. Twice he broke into a wide smile after snapping the net so hard it got stuck on the rim hooks.  Assistant Coach Joe Prunty came over to dislodge the stuck net while Andre beamed at the rim.  Interestingly, he missed his first shot both times after the net was fixed.  Shooting by professional basketball players is such a robotic act that the delay caused by something as simple as a stuck net can be enough to throw off one's rhythm. 

Patty Mills watched from the next court over and shook his head after practice, "You don't see many guards working in the post like that."  Mills also repeated something we've heard from other Blazers: he's picking up little morsels from Miller just by watching him practice. It seems there's more to preseason than simply conditioning drills after all.

Here's another question to consider in the Miller vs. Blake debate: If you start Miller along with Aldridge and Oden can you get anything from him operating out of the post?  Seems like you would have to sacrifice this strength of his game when pairing him with two players that have serious down-low offensive potential of their own.  Throw him in a second rotation with Travis and Przybilla, though, and perhaps he can set up shop more easily. Just thinking aloud here.  I'd still start Miller personally but you know it's a decision that will be looked at from all angles, including this one.   

Patty Mills Update

Chatted with Patty Mills for a few minutes today because he was out of his boot and in sneakers for the first time this fall.  Mills said...

No boot for a few hours a day. A little bit of a tease. Baby steps trying to get the strength back in the joints.  Take it out let it breath. 

Does the boot start to become a drag? <---- See what I did there?

It does because you're in it so often, you sweat and stuff. The boot is good because its higher so there's less pressure on the joints and tendons and stuff. Saw the surgeon and he gave me the word that in about 2 weeks I can take the boot off altogether.

Did the crowd for last night's Fan Fest blow you away a little bit?

It did. Ahh, dude. unbelievable. 17,000 to an intrasquad scrimmage. It was unbelievable. They didn't just come to watch, they were making a lot of noise. For a player, especially me coming from a different country, coming out of college, coming to see how much support you get for a group of guys, that's what you want. You just feel comfortable in the program.

This Just In From The Team

Two Trail Blazers standouts return to team in a new role

PORTLAND, Ore. -Terry Porter and Brian Grant, two of the most popular players in Trail Blazers history, have formally rejoined the organization as the newest members of the Trail Blazer Alumni Ambassadors Corps, the team announced today.

...

In Porter, Grant and Dudley, the Trail Blazers now boast three past recipients of the NBA's J. Walter Kennedy Citizenship Award provided annually to the NBA player, coach or trainer who best exemplifies outstanding service and dedication to the community.

"We are excited that Terry and Brian have both made the decision to return to Portland and thrilled to have them represent the Trail Blazers once again," Trail Blazers President Larry Miller said. "It is a compliment to our city, the organization and especially our fans that so many of our former players have made Portland home."

The Alumni Ambassadors Corps represent the Trail Blazers at events throughout the community year-round, bridging the team's past to its present, supporting team outreach as the public face of many of the team's "Make It Better" programs, including Harvest Dinner, the Statewide Summer Tour and local basketball camps.

Another Great One-Liner

I asked Martell whether tomorrow was a battle for Washington bragging rights, what with himself, Brandon Roy, Spencer Hawes and Jon Brockman all in the same arena at the same time.  Webster wouldn't bite on that one except to deliver this great one-liner...

I know Spencer [Hawes] has a bad taste in his mouth after getting a little bit of Greg [Oden] last year.

Indeed.

-- Ben (benjamin.golliver@gmail.com)

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Poor Spencer Hawes

"Lighten up, Francis" - Sergeant Hulka

by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Oct 5, 2009 2:57 PM PDT reply actions   3 recs

rec

"Is it always like this?" Collins said after the scrimmage. "It was like the first game of the NBA playoffs or something."

by Y5k on Oct 5, 2009 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

It's so awesome that we have an organization

that keeps attracting former players back. It’s so good to hear that Terry and Brian are now back with us in official capacties. Sure makes me wish that I could be back home this year!

by coolguyrob on Oct 5, 2009 3:00 PM PDT reply actions  

My thoughts toward Andre… it’s like he’s been on a list of the saddest and most depressed franchises, with a lot of low-BBIQ players that fail to maximize his skill set.

I also like the fact that he’s crusty with the media. He strikes me as a guy who will respect and grow to love the city, eventually making it a second home. Plus, he’s just the kind of guy that Blazer fans will develop a cult following to celebrate… maybe not the best player or one that is prominent in league history, but a player all Blazer fans love all by themselves.

Plus, I love the fact that he feeds the post. How many times did he signal Greg to get back on the block last night? He won’t let us ignore the big fella.

"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.

by Cablinasian on Oct 5, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

They do love them some

Brockman over at Sactown Royalty. The reports from their public scrimmage (with roughly 1000 people in attendance) talk about him carving out a role in the regular rotation. He’s getting a few nicknames….such as “Hoss” and “Brock Ness Monster”.

"I'm a man, but I can change.....if I have to......I guess." - Red Green

by antediluvian on Oct 6, 2009 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

while im excited about tuesday because were getting the preseason under way

im more so looking forward to the games against the clippers and suns, because they provide more solid big men for Oden to go up against. If he succeeds against them then we’ll get a better feel for his improvement. Also, our opponents early on in the regular season are relatively weak at the center position so Greg should find success early, boosting his confidence for remainder of the season.

by 64-18 on Oct 5, 2009 3:50 PM PDT reply actions  

Interesting stuff about the team's confidence in defensive skills

Really curious to see if it translates into, y’know, defense. Yet another tidbit that makes me want the real season to start ASAP. Opening night can’t come fast enough. I think I need a time machine.

by Corvid on Oct 5, 2009 4:05 PM PDT reply actions  

What are my options for watching the game tomorrow considering that I am in Texas?

Clyde the Glide, the greatest player ever

Cliff Robinson got mad at my brother who was trying to sell him a cellphone when my brother called him Uncle Cliffy. Apparently, he doesn't like that name very much.

by BeaumontTXBlazerFan on Oct 5, 2009 4:09 PM PDT reply actions  

none, even for those in Portland not attending. No tv.

"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.

by Cablinasian on Oct 5, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not even a streaming vid??

Clyde the Glide, the greatest player ever

Cliff Robinson got mad at my brother who was trying to sell him a cellphone when my brother called him Uncle Cliffy. Apparently, he doesn't like that name very much.

by BeaumontTXBlazerFan on Oct 5, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

You might check NBA.com for a free audio broadcast.

"I'm not sure SB Nation is big enough for your ego." Garces to annthefan.

" Hahahahhahahahahahhhhhahhha!!!!!!!
I think I’ll make that my new signature. I’m such an uppity woman!" annthefan to Garces

by annthefan on Oct 5, 2009 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

We need an Oregon Legislature Comittee to look into this

"The match in Los Angeles is a good opportunity to begin to demonstrate that we want to make war." Rudy Fernández (translated)

by G_dubs on Oct 5, 2009 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d like to point out the statement about it being difficult to post up Andre with LMA and Oden on the floor.

I’m not sure if this is entirely accurate. If the matchup created at the point is more substantial than that in the post (read:Spurs, Hornets), then post up Andre, sticking LMA in the corner nearest Andre and Greg on the opposite side of the low post. If they come to double Andre from Greg’s man, it’s an easy slam, and if they come off of LMA, I’m ok with an open corner three on any possession. He actually shot a decent percentage from the left corner last year, which I seem to think Andre favors as well from my recollection of last year’s Sixers.

I think the real question is: will Nate put in a new offensive set to take advantage of all the jitterbug point guards in the West? Aaron Brooks, Chris Paul, Tony Parker, Monta Ellis, Farmar/Fisher, etc. are all begging to be posted up.

I think it works if Greg becomes either a good low post threat or gains a solid 14 foot jumper to man the high post and LMA continues to shoot 40% from the left corner.

"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.

by Cablinasian on Oct 5, 2009 4:09 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

I like your thinking, save with respect to Fisher

I don’t believe he’s a patsy in the post—even for Andre Miller. Fisher may have lost a step, but he’s an experienced, tough defender.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Oct 5, 2009 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Laker fans bemoaned the signing of Andre, saying that he ate their point guards alive.

"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.

by Cablinasian on Oct 5, 2009 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

I had the same thoughts as well. Corner 3 is one of the most efficient shots in basketball. Of course, dunk/lay-up is #1 in terms of efficiency.

Also, Fisher is just getting by on his rep at this point. If they are starting him this season as well, (which means Shannon Brown nor Farmar probably regressed) they are in trouble.

by xedubx on Oct 5, 2009 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds good

I have been preaching all summer about starting Andre with the second team to give more power to them and not having him and BRoy having the same role.

I have also thought of Greg and LMA on a hi-lo post, but thinking that LMA isn’t much of a post player plus when he gets the ball he is suppose to shoot most of the time, same with Greg limiting assist. But you saying to post Andre on the high post with Greg on the low sounds great to me, Andre is a passing PG and would be in his range of shooting. That would also free up BRoy, and Batuum. with that five who would you dare to leave open.

If they left any of them open they could also drive in and dish to Greg or Andre or dunk leaving us more easy baskets.I feel we use the kick out to the three way to much .

great post

hg

by BBK on Oct 6, 2009 5:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Martell: PAUSE

The Princess of Blazersedge

It just takes an iron fist to keep the riff raff under control and her princess hand is mad strong- Idoltime

by BlazerFan1 on Oct 5, 2009 4:19 PM PDT reply actions  

LOL smh

"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.

by Cablinasian on Oct 5, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

(see what I did there?)

"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.

by Cablinasian on Oct 5, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Welcome home Terry Porter and Brian Grant

Terrific additions to our Blazer staff. We appreciate your work this summer Brian with Greg and your depth of experience with big men techniques and skills. Terry your experience coaching and your knowledge of league personnel will be an added bonus to the great character you both add to the community.

"Either way we have two phenomenal units. I'm excited to play with either one." - Martell Webster

by lee3022 on Oct 5, 2009 4:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Call me crazy, but I see Tyreke "Drive-By" Evans as a small forward rather than a point guard. Because ...

he’s more of a dribble-drive slasher than a true floor general — which was emphasized under John Calipari at Memphis — with a propensity to commit turnovers, his size would be better off beside the sharp-shooting Kevin Martin on the wing.

Heck, even in college at Memphis, Evans wasn’t as proficient of a distributor as teammate Antonio Anderson, whose assist-to-turnover ratio last season was nearly twice that of the highly touted prospect. All in all, Evans playing the point as a rookie in Sacramento is a risky proposition.

That, along with Evans’ astounding length for his height and exceptional defensive prowess, makes me feel the Sacramento Kings should seriously consider sending out a lineup of Spencer Hawes, Jason Thompson, Evans, Martin, and Sergio Rodriguez.

Yes, I advocate a starting job for freakin’ “Spanish Chocolate” — who I’m glad has left Portland — of all men.

Stupid people have stupid ideas.

by AK1984 on Oct 5, 2009 5:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Sac-town has no risky propositions

They just need to experiment & get better, It’s not like their going to win alot anyway!

"BEER IS LIVING PROOF THAT GOD LOVES US"
- Benjamin Franklin-

by We-B-Dunkin on Oct 5, 2009 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think they're just hoping lightning strikes

Because he really isn’t a PG, he’s a physical slasher. I think he could be a beast and maybe could win the ROY.

But as a PG, he will have a grip of 10+ turnover games. And their offense will suffer.

I will be watching him all season, because I liked what I saw in summer league.

M—

by Mortimer on Oct 5, 2009 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

As regards the defense

I’ll take Ben’s word for it that Nate has a more confident air about the D, since he covers him and has a sense for this. However, as mentioned, the whole, " we’re just focusing on us" talk is typical of preseason. They’re probably trying to get the basics in place while at the same time trying to assess strengths and weaknesses.

Even if you believe the perimeter D is a weakness (I do) there’s no point in putting in wrinkles at this point. Far better to reinforce/practice the basics and figure out to what extent a problem exists rather than obscure any problem and get a win that doesn’t matter anyway.

by JMoon on Oct 5, 2009 5:28 PM PDT reply actions  

MARTY!

Can I just say… Martell Webster has me officially in his camp now. I want him around forever. Well spoken, always a great quote, infectious personality.

Ideally, Nic and Marty could exist on this team forever. I know this isn’t an ideal world and we’ll likely lose one eventually, but one can dream.

by MedZag on Oct 5, 2009 6:00 PM PDT reply actions  

It's not Nic or Marty, imo

I think those two stay and Rudy goes, I think he will want to start someday soon

"My shoulder is OK. And away we go." -- Nic Batum

by blazeraddict on Oct 5, 2009 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love Rudy

He is also the best asset we have that is redundant & can bring us back the most in return. Eventually I see him somewhere else. It’s not that i want this to happen i just feel it is inevitable.

"BEER IS LIVING PROOF THAT GOD LOVES US"
- Benjamin Franklin-

by We-B-Dunkin on Oct 5, 2009 7:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Ah, but is he truly redundant?

Last season, we mainly saw Rudy the without-the-ball cutter and 3-point specialist. But he can do a lot of other things on the basketball court. And Nate’s aware of that, having watched him tear it up in Europe and at the Olympics.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Oct 5, 2009 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh woah is Nate having in too many weapons to choose from

Where will he find the possessions to get the blazers all their shots. Will Greg and co. dig up enough offensive boards to keep every player happy. Yikes hes got a mainstay of Lma inside and out along with Roy outside and in. Miller in the post, Greg on the other post while Webster waits patiently in the corner for 3 or Rudy at he top of the key or Batum cutting back door, Let alone getting shots for Trout. Oh the humanity of deciding who get theirs and when.

Well at least he’s keeping it simple on defense and letting the team run their own plays.

Bring on the games and stop the off-season drama already!!!

by NWfan on Oct 5, 2009 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

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