Blazers Fan Fest Gameday Open Thread
by Ben Golliver on Oct 4, 2009 2:00 PM PDT
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PrintThe Portland Trail Blazers' intra-squad scrimmage is this evening at the Rose Garden. It's being televised on Comcast Sports Northwest and coverage begins at 5PM. Expect the game to tip sometime after 6PM. As an added bonus and a nice surprise, Dwight Jaynes will part of the broadcast team.
Last year's Fan Fest highlight was Rudy Fernandez's crazy pass... hopefully we are treated to something equally as awesome this time around.
Feel free to open the pre-game discussion up here and keep it going throughout the game. Anything particular you're hoping to see? Who will you be watching most closely?
Need more information on the event? Click here. Need tickets? Download free tickets here (Thanks Corvid).
I'll be out at the Rose Garden tweeting and milling around, and I'll post some thoughts afterwards. Should be a good time.
-- Ben (benjamin.golliver@gmail.com)
PS In case you missed it I dropped a bunch of Greg Oden footage from yesterday's practice. That should whet your appetite for tonight.
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Oden
"...the primary focus of all obstacles is to induce labor, so progression can be born." - LiL C
Beavis!!!
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
I'd better not go there...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
is it free? do ya hafta buy a ticket? is there free food?
Gosh I hope it’s free and they are serving free food.
What’s the word?
The counsels of impatience and hatred can always be supported by the crudest and cheapest symbols. For the counsels of moderation, the reasons are often intricate, rather than emotional, and difficult to explain. And so the chauvinists of all times and places go their appointed way: plucking the easy fruits, reaping the little triumphs of the day at the expense of someone else tomorrow, deluging in noise and filth anyone who gets in their way, dancing their reckless dance on the prospects for human progress, drawing the shadow of a great doubt over the validity of democratic institutions. And until peoples learn to spot the fanning of mass emotions and the sowing of bitterness, suspicion, and intolerance as crimes in themselves - as perhaps the greatest disservice that can be done to the cause of popular government - this sort of thing will continue to occur.
all freee love
"...the primary focus of all obstacles is to induce labor, so progression can be born." - LiL C
Hi
Do you need tickets to go this? I thought it was just a show up and leave kind of thing. My friend offered me two tickets to go since he didn’t want to.
The Kings have the best bench I’ve seen. There are easily 14 guys on this team good enough for every bench in the league. Now if we could only get some starters, I’d totally jizz in my pants.
Kings fan
Links for people who have questions
Here’s the event info from the Blazers site:
http://www.nba.com/blazers/wells_fargo_fan_fest_2009_08_21.html
If you need a ticket, you can download one here:
http://www.nba.com/media/blazers/09FanFestTicket_email.pdf
by Corvid on Oct 4, 2009 2:13 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
thanks!
The Kings have the best bench I’ve seen. There are easily 14 guys on this team good enough for every bench in the league. Now if we could only get some starters, I’d totally jizz in my pants.
Kings fan
im live streaming on justin.tv for those out of town. i expect major bedge points
lessssss go
by dougall5505 on Oct 4, 2009 2:19 PM PDT reply actions 15 recs
good work!!!!!!!
+1
"The difference between a democracy and a dictatorship is that in a democracy you vote first and take orders later; in a dictatorship you don't have to waste your time voting"
"I don't like jail, they got the wrong kind of bars in there"
Charles Bukowski
thanks!
The Kings have the best bench I’ve seen. There are easily 14 guys on this team good enough for every bench in the league. Now if we could only get some starters, I’d totally jizz in my pants.
Kings fan
I made a point of buying a cel with FM radio support.
Because nba.com’s audio streaming is major failtime, and I’m behind some serious firewallage, and then I forgot to bring it today. I’ve got my fingers crossed that I’ll be able to pick up this stream. The main page is loading so I’m hopefull. Looking forward to the URL when it’s up!
And for those of us with no access to Comcast.
Thanks a BUNCH!!!!
"I'm a man, but I can change.....if I have to......I guess." - Red Green
guess :P
I found his channel on the first try, it’s PW protected though (good thing, since comcast will search everywhere trying to destroy human happiness)
F.L.A.G.
do you have written consent from the Blazers and the NBA?
didn’t think so
"Early to bed, early to rise, makes a woman healthy, wealthy, and wise. That's why you all are wiser than me. It's cloudydays."
by cloudydays on Oct 4, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
-1 if you're serious
Roy, Aldridge, Oden, Rudy, Batum, Outlaw, Webster, Bayless, Blake, Miller, Joel... Holy crap!
i was born serious
seriously
"Early to bed, early to rise, makes a woman healthy, wealthy, and wise. That's why you all are wiser than me. It's cloudydays."
Then you get another -1
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
lol
i wouldnt flag it…
"Early to bed, early to rise, makes a woman healthy, wealthy, and wise. That's why you all are wiser than me. It's cloudydays."
I think I hate Republicans from Oregon State as much as Dirty Hippies from Cal
"Lighten up, Francis" - Sergeant Hulka
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Oct 4, 2009 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions
lol
"Early to bed, early to rise, makes a woman healthy, wealthy, and wise. That's why you all are wiser than me. It's cloudydays."
After last season
joking about flagging something for comcast is like joking about bringing a gun to a highschool
looks like there ain't no free food
darn. now I’m gonna have to go home first and cook up some grub.
The counsels of impatience and hatred can always be supported by the crudest and cheapest symbols. For the counsels of moderation, the reasons are often intricate, rather than emotional, and difficult to explain. And so the chauvinists of all times and places go their appointed way: plucking the easy fruits, reaping the little triumphs of the day at the expense of someone else tomorrow, deluging in noise and filth anyone who gets in their way, dancing their reckless dance on the prospects for human progress, drawing the shadow of a great doubt over the validity of democratic institutions. And until peoples learn to spot the fanning of mass emotions and the sowing of bitterness, suspicion, and intolerance as crimes in themselves - as perhaps the greatest disservice that can be done to the cause of popular government - this sort of thing will continue to occur.
and then sneak in the food?
The Kings have the best bench I’ve seen. There are easily 14 guys on this team good enough for every bench in the league. Now if we could only get some starters, I’d totally jizz in my pants.
Kings fan
your name is remarkably simple
I wanted to go with Mr. Bigglesworth for my name, but I figured it was already taken
"Early to bed, early to rise, makes a woman healthy, wealthy, and wise. That's why you all are wiser than me. It's cloudydays."
There are Wifi spots that I've used before
But I forget if they are free.
They were installed in 2007 when they put in the new scoreboard.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Heartless braggart!
PS Are we still Bedgefriends?
"I'm not sure SB Nation is big enough for your ego." Garces to annthefan.
" Hahahahhahahahahahhhhhahhha!!!!!!!
I think I’ll make that my new signature. I’m such an uppity woman!" annthefan to Garces
Totally!
I feel like I adequately excused myself from guilt in the Outlaw = Dumb scandal.
Whatever
thetinfoil@gmail.com
first words from the "man" on the "street"
So me and my homie are first in line right outside te center court
At 113-114. Hopefully we get courtside
Paladins are awesome!
“What I’m not looking for is, uh, some big overgrown monster that’s always thinkin’ about food.”
by Starvin’ Marvin on Oct 4, 2009 2:31 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
"...the primary focus of all obstacles is to induce labor, so progression can be born." - LiL C
FYI, slightly OT for 1/4 season holders
Unless your quarter season includes Tuesday’s game, I’ve been told to expect tickets mid-week by my rep.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Good to know!
I was going to call and harass my rep. I usually don’t check the mail box everyday, but I’m so excited just to have the tickets in my hands that I do now. Thanks!
I wonder who will win the game tonight?
Blazers or Blazers? Gosh darn, I hope its the Blazers.
I went to the malls and I balled too hard
'Oh my god, is that a Black Card?'
I turned around and replied, why yes but I prefer the term
African American Express
I'm rooting for Greg's team. Otherwise he'll be labeled a bust for yet another year.
Whatever
thetinfoil@gmail.com
NO WAY!
THE BLAZERS WILL WIN!
"...the primary focus of all obstacles is to induce labor, so progression can be born." - LiL C
if the Blazers don't win I will be mega PO'd
"And in the end
The love you take
Is equal to the love you make." -The Beatles
I'm conflicted.
"I'm not sure SB Nation is big enough for your ego." Garces to annthefan.
" Hahahahhahahahahahhhhhahhha!!!!!!!
I think I’ll make that my new signature. I’m such an uppity woman!" annthefan to Garces
Gregory Wayne's team
"Early to bed, early to rise, makes a woman healthy, wealthy, and wise. That's why you all are wiser than me. It's cloudydays."
I'll be watching Oden, Martell, and Bayless, because I think they are likely to show the most progress.
Oden: everyone has been giving the big man props.
Martell: been so long that I almost forgot what he looks like out there, especially on defense.
Bayless: Quick said JB looked very good in scrimmages on his O-Live chat. Combine that with the bit of video Ben put up, and I am really looking forward to seeing how far he has come.
I figure I don’t need to worry about Andre, I know he is going to be good.
by upper left corner on Oct 4, 2009 2:42 PM PDT reply actions
I hope Nic dunks on Greg, then Greg blocks Nic, then Rudy dunks on Roy, then...
"I think he can still play" - Kevin Pritchard on Juwan Howard
Heading down
GO BLAZERS!!!
"...the primary focus of all obstacles is to induce labor, so progression can be born." - LiL C
Im hopin to get a good seat today
Bringing my flip to get some video
Has the season started yet?
by SabasforThree on Oct 4, 2009 3:39 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
oooh that's smooth
well played sir ;)
(dougall will post the link later on)
"Early to bed, early to rise, makes a woman healthy, wealthy, and wise. That's why you all are wiser than me. It's cloudydays."
Can you e-mail me the link?
Could you please e-mail me or message me the link? Thanks!
Thanks SO much, dougall5505!
I’m out of town for a couple of weeks and was bummed to think I’d be missing this entirely. Thank you for the linkage!
Any Links
Anyone have a link to the festivus for the restofus?
Here we go!
First game since July 19th!
Hi, my name is Connor. Except over on ATQ where I am known as, "JConnor."
Just heard on Comcast
That about 12,000 people are expected tonight. That’s pretty good for a practice.
Hi, my name is Connor. Except over on ATQ where I am known as, "JConnor."
Over 16000
Over 16000 of our closest friends all showed up for the event tonight! Yeah! And, to make it even more enjoyable, the Blazers won!!!
What are the lineups?
Last years starters vs Dre/Rudy/Martel/TO/GO
Anyone know yet? That is my best guess but some might be sitting out etc…
Good job.
"I'm not sure SB Nation is big enough for your ego." Garces to annthefan.
" Hahahahhahahahahahhhhhahhha!!!!!!!
I think I’ll make that my new signature. I’m such an uppity woman!" annthefan to Garces
12k in line when the doors opened
You think people are a little excited?
I know I am, GO BLAZERS!
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
password for bedgers only!!!!!!!!!!!!
7-52-25-5-8-88-12
ima change it if we get inundated
lessssss go
by dougall5505 on Oct 4, 2009 5:28 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
They're gonna make Andre Miller talk. This will not end well.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
"Both teams played hard."
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Pendergraph = Luke Walton's voice
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
gahh
I cant see it though =/
The Kings have the best bench I’ve seen. There are easily 14 guys on this team good enough for every bench in the league. Now if we could only get some starters, I’d totally jizz in my pants.
Kings fan
Jerron Collins interviewed from his wheelchair...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Oden heckling Rudy.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Is that Greg making all those noises?
"Lighten up, Francis" - Sergeant Hulka
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Oct 4, 2009 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I officially endorse Dante Cunningham.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Travis has hair.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Juwan looks like Wilt Chamberlin's younger brother...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
They got Dr. Evil to interview Nate!
"Lighten up, Francis" - Sergeant Hulka
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Oct 4, 2009 5:44 PM PDT reply actions
hahahaha
"Early to bed, early to rise, makes a woman healthy, wealthy, and wise. That's why you all are wiser than me. It's cloudydays."
Canzno has no flash forward
I think we all know what that means
"Lighten up, Francis" - Sergeant Hulka
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Oct 4, 2009 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions
to semi-quote roybot
[soccer] sucks
:P
"Early to bed, early to rise, makes a woman healthy, wealthy, and wise. That's why you all are wiser than me. It's cloudydays."
-92 IF UR SERIOUS BUDDY
"Early to bed, early to rise, makes a woman healthy, wealthy, and wise. That's why you all are wiser than me. It's cloudydays."
Snake also likes marmite and parsnips.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
........................... Maybe even marmite ON parsnips...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Soccer = (-1) * (basketball)
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
my next find
a Maurice Lucas throwback jersey
"Early to bed, early to rise, makes a woman healthy, wealthy, and wise. That's why you all are wiser than me. It's cloudydays."
then find someone with a Dawkins jersey and rabbit punch his head
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Oct 4, 2009 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Blake's kid is gonna do his hammy -- no way he's getting that thing stretched out right...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Fanfest encore: tomorrow night at 9 pm.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
GOD, YOU'RE A MORON, TRAVIS!!!!!!
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Just getting a jump on the rest of the crowd...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
I hope the scrimmage is decent
in years past it has been a little underwhelming.
OMG I just jizzed in my France
Hey, this is not Rebecca Haarlow..........
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
I meant Dwight Jaynes.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
I like Jill Savage....
Stuck at work can’t see a dang thing. Sucks.
"The match in Los Angeles is a good opportunity to begin to demonstrate that we want to make war." Rudy Fernández (translated)
Dr. Evil scaring small children on tv
"Lighten up, Francis" - Sergeant Hulka
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Oct 4, 2009 6:02 PM PDT reply actions
Yeah, no kidding...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
So, little boy.............. who is your favorite.... Blaaaa-zeerrrr?
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
"Would you like to see my shorn scrotum?"
OMG I just jizzed in my France
by sug on Oct 4, 2009 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Talking heads are getting on my nerves.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Bobby Medina- True Patriot.
OMG I just jizzed in my France
Timbers lose.
Only a Portland team could have a 24 match unbeaten streak during the regular season, fail to win the championship and not surprise anyone.
Quickly becoming the Cleveland of the West
"I think he can still play" - Kevin Pritchard on Juwan Howard
What's a Timbers?
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Ouch
If you ever hear of someone punching out a girl scout and stealing her Samoas, it was me
- Mortimer
by Clevelander among roses on Oct 4, 2009 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I like the second little kid announcer!
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
White team is gonna kick first team's butts.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
has it started yet?
Roy, Aldridge, Oden, Rudy, Batum, Outlaw, Webster, Bayless, Blake, Miller, Joel... Holy crap!
Marty bags a 3 playing the "Portland" on his first shot.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
A foul call, and not on Oden. Woot woot!
"I think he can still play" - Kevin Pritchard on Juwan Howard
This is going to be a low scoring affair.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
I wish Joel would have taken that open 3...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
somebody make them stop talking
if you watch Rambo in reverse, Sly is healing everyone with his magical, bullet-sucking vacuum
I am very close to turning off the sound on these idiots.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Laura whatsherface and the Talking Ball dork.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
LAURA GREEN and IAN FURNESS.
Both of whom are now in competition for the Tony Luftman Memorial Worst NBA Announcer of the Year award…
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
tell them what they've won
if you watch Rambo in reverse, Sly is healing everyone with his magical, bullet-sucking vacuum
by Tyler Durrden on Oct 4, 2009 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions
It's like a fricking Macy's thankgiving day parade with Biff and Buffy...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
muted
if you watch Rambo in reverse, Sly is healing everyone with his magical, bullet-sucking vacuum
by Tyler Durrden on Oct 4, 2009 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Sound off. Praise Jesus.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Blake with the nice oop assist.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
First glimpse of why we don
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
First glimpse of why we NEVER, EVER, EVER want to see Andre taking 3s. Holy crap.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Sergio starts with S for SNIPER compared to Andre Miller from the arc...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
accidental return strike?
if you watch Rambo in reverse, Sly is healing everyone with his magical, bullet-sucking vacuum
by Tyler Durrden on Oct 4, 2009 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Replacement refs and replacement announcers
"I think he can still play" - Kevin Pritchard on Juwan Howard
I officially endorse Dante Cunningham.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
ooh nice jam by Martell
if you watch Rambo in reverse, Sly is healing everyone with his magical, bullet-sucking vacuum
Huh?
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
computer's hanging...unintentional late double post
if you watch Rambo in reverse, Sly is healing everyone with his magical, bullet-sucking vacuum
by Tyler Durrden on Oct 4, 2009 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I do that all the time.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
ooh nice jam by Martell
if you watch Rambo in reverse, Sly is healing everyone with his magical, bullet-sucking vacuum
Why don't they have real announcers?
That I do not understand.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
yeah, this is just distracting
if you watch Rambo in reverse, Sly is healing everyone with his magical, bullet-sucking vacuum
by Tyler Durrden on Oct 4, 2009 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions
It doesn't have to be MB and Rice -- just someone who has done a game before in their life ever, with a color commentator who has played at some time since middle school PE...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
If they want to save money, they can just go with crowd sound and no commentators, like NBC did during the Olympics.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
The announcing crew was there, just watching. We were two rows behind them.
The cameraman kept pointing to a guy across the court holding up a “fire mike rice” sign, trying to egg Rice on.
Whatever
thetinfoil@gmail.com
Oden with a nice
Jump Hook.
Hi, my name is Connor. Except over on ATQ where I am known as, "JConnor."
After the 1st Quarter
Black-17, White-14
Hi, my name is Connor. Except over on ATQ where I am known as, "JConnor."
I thought that was Dante. Yes, he looks very good.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
From the Blazers ofifcial twitter
Black team: Dante Bayless Blake Batum Przybilla LaMarcus Roy. White team: Collins Howard Outlaw Ime Oden Outlaw Rudy Miller Martell
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Who threw that pass. Moron "announcers" blathering about the DAR Float and the Giant Moose Balloon...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
sweet block by Oden
if you watch Rambo in reverse, Sly is healing everyone with his magical, bullet-sucking vacuum
Sound off again. Luftman and Sorority Susie are gonna cause me to get tossed for six weeks otherwise...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Oden looking better...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
furness just called udoka bayless
if you watch Rambo in reverse, Sly is healing everyone with his magical, bullet-sucking vacuum
I just called furness clueless...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
by timbo on Oct 4, 2009 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Cut him off.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Nice pass by Juwan there.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
See above.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Ahhh I cant get the justin tv link
Help! Help! Or Im gonna do SAT prep…
The Kings have the best bench I’ve seen. There are easily 14 guys on this team good enough for every bench in the league. Now if we could only get some starters, I’d totally jizz in my pants.
Kings fan
Ime pots one from the corner.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Ime with the trey
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Luftman and Susie speculating on who gets cut during game action.
Like they have the first clue.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Or it would be the most pressing thing for Nate
"I think he can still play" - Kevin Pritchard on Juwan Howard
Ime is a genius, seriously
Best case scenario, he does nothing on a great team.
Worst case scenario, he does a bit more than nothing on a bad team.
He’s winning either way. If we drop him, he’s getting picked up by someone else ASAP.
Cut to Oden talking on the bench during action. Nice.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
martell looks really good
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Good thing they are reminding us what Brandon Roy looks like during the game. I forgot.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
He ended up with like nine assists
"And in the end
The love you take
Is equal to the love you make." -The Beatles
bayless going bayless
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Yes he is.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
justin.tv/dougall5055 is streaming
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by Tyler Durrden on Oct 4, 2009 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Password: 7-52-25-5-8-88-12
justin.tv/dougall5505
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
thank you!
The Kings have the best bench I’ve seen. There are easily 14 guys on this team good enough for every bench in the league. Now if we could only get some starters, I’d totally jizz in my pants.
Kings fan
Nic is so fun to watch.
OMG I just jizzed in my France
bayless for 3 at the horn
go ahead bayless
Nico and Martell both look incredible.
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
Well Martell’s shot looks incredible… Not sure about his defense as there isn’t much D goin’ on.
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
small forward is a toss-up right now
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by Tyler Durrden on Oct 4, 2009 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Takes from the first half:
1. Andre Miller is mortal and should never, ever shoot threes.
2. Marty is gonna be goooooood.
3. Oden is more fluid.
4. Ian Furness should be run out of town on a rail. Laura Green can go with him. Where, I do not care.
5. Blake is a pretty good passer.
6. So is Juwan Howard.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
and Nic? He’s looked terrific as well.
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
#88!
Damn the Blazers. Damn them to hell. - 'The Sports Guy' Bill Simmons
It was rip city showtime - fully fantastic - positively Portland - slam bombastic!
by doublezeroduck on Oct 4, 2009 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Comment by Cab about Nic is also right. Blazers are stocked at the 3 between Marty and Nico.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
You beat me.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
What if we would have gotten Hedo too?
Roy, Aldridge, Oden, Rudy, Batum, Outlaw, Webster, Bayless, Blake, Miller, Joel... Holy crap!
never speak that name again
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by Tyler Durrden on Oct 4, 2009 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions
im just sayin. than the 3 would have REALLY been a mess
Roy, Aldridge, Oden, Rudy, Batum, Outlaw, Webster, Bayless, Blake, Miller, Joel... Holy crap!
I know. I'm just playin'
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by Tyler Durrden on Oct 4, 2009 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I am not sure what nate is going to do. Someone is going to be unhappy with how good Martell and Nic look.
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
say goodbye to Roy at the 3
which cuts into Rudy’s PT…which is why they’re “trying” him at PG, but Blake went 17pts, 11 dimes tonight and won ’MVP" (Meanwhile, Miller looked smooth and in charge)
I don’t see how Nate is going to find Rudy 25+mpg and stay “true” to Batum/Webster
Lopsided trade KP. Don’t leave your roster mess for Nate to have to deal with, all year
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Dang guys
Is Martell Webster doing THAT well?
The Kings have the best bench I’ve seen. There are easily 14 guys on this team good enough for every bench in the league. Now if we could only get some starters, I’d totally jizz in my pants.
Kings fan
he's going to jump out of the building
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by Tyler Durrden on Oct 4, 2009 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Last year he also had 1 good game in pre-season
"I think he can still play" - Kevin Pritchard on Juwan Howard
White starting to extend the inevitable lead.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
starters losing to the bench I see
well bench is stacked.
The Kings have the best bench I’ve seen. There are easily 14 guys on this team good enough for every bench in the league. Now if we could only get some starters, I’d totally jizz in my pants.
Kings fan
If Nate can be strong enough to leave that white unit unchanged, it is going to be MURDEROUS...........
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
It won't happen
Miller and GO will be starting by opening night
"My shoulder is OK. And away we go." -- Nic Batum
Oh, goody, another pointless interview!!!!
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Smooth drop step by Greg Oden
The Kings have the best bench I’ve seen. There are easily 14 guys on this team good enough for every bench in the league. Now if we could only get some starters, I’d totally jizz in my pants.
Kings fan
Jeez people in the chat are a bit disrespectful
Yes, athletes tend to gain weight once they retire. So do all middle aged people…
The Kings have the best bench I’ve seen. There are easily 14 guys on this team good enough for every bench in the league. Now if we could only get some starters, I’d totally jizz in my pants.
Kings fan
TV makes people look fat.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
DID THEY MAKE TONY LUFTMAN A PRODUCER??????????
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
are you unhappy he's off camera?
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Oct 4, 2009 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd take Luftman over Furness, even-up.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Happy talk news announcing is gonna drive me insane, I swear to you....
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
give and go through Oden!
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
Which crashed. Anyways....
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Greg Oden finally gets his first foul.
The Kings have the best bench I’ve seen. There are easily 14 guys on this team good enough for every bench in the league. Now if we could only get some starters, I’d totally jizz in my pants.
Kings fan
Sick pass by Andre to #25
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Dang!
Andre Miller really pushing the ball. Great to see some fastbreaks.
The Kings have the best bench I’ve seen. There are easily 14 guys on this team good enough for every bench in the league. Now if we could only get some starters, I’d totally jizz in my pants.
Kings fan
Airball Udoka.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
it got tipped
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by Tyler Durrden on Oct 4, 2009 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions
White team settling for jumpers. Black team making jumpers.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
TO miller. Ends in a Dante dunk.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
bad pass by miller leads to fastbreak dunk
The Kings have the best bench I’ve seen. There are easily 14 guys on this team good enough for every bench in the league. Now if we could only get some starters, I’d totally jizz in my pants.
Kings fan
I really wish they would televise the preseason.
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
I heard they weren't
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by Tyler Durrden on Oct 4, 2009 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I used to think that. But after this mess of a telecast, I will give it a miss and watch football.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
No!
I don’t want more interviews. Or more highlights. Or more wtv. I want the game.
The Kings have the best bench I’ve seen. There are easily 14 guys on this team good enough for every bench in the league. Now if we could only get some starters, I’d totally jizz in my pants.
Kings fan
But if they had the game showing, they would have to hire someone who had a clue about who was who and what was happening....
Happy Talk News at 7 is lots cheaper to produce.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
I want to hear the crowd noise, but I'm sick of listening to these idiots. LAME
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Replacement announcers are worse than replacement refs
"I think he can still play" - Kevin Pritchard on Juwan Howard
I seriously want to steal their pets and pee on their lawns....
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
are we hating the announcers because we're sexist?
The Kings have the best bench I’ve seen. There are easily 14 guys on this team good enough for every bench in the league. Now if we could only get some starters, I’d totally jizz in my pants.
Kings fan
you are
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by Tyler Durrden on Oct 4, 2009 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions
..........sexist and homophobic????
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
ouch!
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by Tyler Durrden on Oct 4, 2009 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions
kinda like how we hate violet palmer
The Kings have the best bench I’ve seen. There are easily 14 guys on this team good enough for every bench in the league. Now if we could only get some starters, I’d totally jizz in my pants.
Kings fan
First double double of the season for Greg
"I think he can still play" - Kevin Pritchard on Juwan Howard
He has 10/10 right now?
The Kings have the best bench I’ve seen. There are easily 14 guys on this team good enough for every bench in the league. Now if we could only get some starters, I’d totally jizz in my pants.
Kings fan
Nice bank shot by Marty.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Andre ducks his shoulder and gets to the rack, AND ONE.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
I see a lot of Bayless in Andre Miller and vice versa.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
On cue, steal and layup for the Rex.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Juwan Howard gets down the court pretty good for his age
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Rudy doing some pging
The Kings have the best bench I’ve seen. There are easily 14 guys on this team good enough for every bench in the league. Now if we could only get some starters, I’d totally jizz in my pants.
Kings fan
and a great pass just now to Ime
The Kings have the best bench I’ve seen. There are easily 14 guys on this team good enough for every bench in the league. Now if we could only get some starters, I’d totally jizz in my pants.
Kings fan
The Inferno is a 3.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Dante Cunningham is a high-post 4 who scores off the pick-'n'-pop, so offensively he's Brandon Bass.
Stupid people have stupid ideas.
but he's got hops
Dante was dueling Rex for “can you top this?” dunks during the layup drill
Travis out, Cunningham in. Sure, Trout can shoot the 3 ball better, but otherwise the two ‘tweeners are redundant, on this roster. DC has a nose for rebounds, he scooped up a loose ball and laid it in, after Greg stuffed Batum’s attempt at a Dr. J move
When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Blake can shoot the 3 ball.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
I like Ime.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
I'm hoping for OT
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LMA doing his Channing Frye impression...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Rex for 3!
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Here's a quote for ya.
Rex > Andre tonight.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
REX!
The Kings have the best bench I’ve seen. There are easily 14 guys on this team good enough for every bench in the league. Now if we could only get some starters, I’d totally jizz in my pants.
Kings fan
trade blake!
The Kings have the best bench I’ve seen. There are easily 14 guys on this team good enough for every bench in the league. Now if we could only get some starters, I’d totally jizz in my pants.
Kings fan
Trade Andre!
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Rex rebounds, finds another shooter, who bricks the assist.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
darn TO by Oden
The Kings have the best bench I’ve seen. There are easily 14 guys on this team good enough for every bench in the league. Now if we could only get some starters, I’d totally jizz in my pants.
Kings fan
The Rudy at PG experiment will be killed after pre-season
"I think he can still play" - Kevin Pritchard on Juwan Howard
yeah probably due to his lack of handles
The Kings have the best bench I’ve seen. There are easily 14 guys on this team good enough for every bench in the league. Now if we could only get some starters, I’d totally jizz in my pants.
Kings fan
where are Rudy's minutes going to come from, then?
Batum and Webster should have the SF position locked down for 48 mpg
When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
no, I disagree
I think Roy plays some minutes at SF with Rudy at SG. This would mean fewer minutes for Webster (if I was coaching), which is unfortunate, but that’s how it goes.
Blake hits from A MILE AWAY.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Oden rolls for the oop.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Odne: 12/11
The Kings have the best bench I’ve seen. There are easily 14 guys on this team good enough for every bench in the league. Now if we could only get some starters, I’d totally jizz in my pants.
Kings fan
sweet alley-oop rudy to GO
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TO Blake.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
and in other news
I ahve a wart growing on my left hand. crap
The Kings have the best bench I’ve seen. There are easily 14 guys on this team good enough for every bench in the league. Now if we could only get some starters, I’d totally jizz in my pants.
Kings fan
TMI
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by Tyler Durrden on Oct 4, 2009 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions
how is this team going to split minutes…
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
Martell is probably my favorite Blazer, so I didn’t want to get my hopes up.
He looked good.
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
people are gonna get traded
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by Tyler Durrden on Oct 4, 2009 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions
a LOT of talent
forget the rookies and the 15th man, and we still go 12 deep. Howard and Rex would get decent minutes on most teams
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
There will be injuries.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
yeah blake or miller will "accidentally" roll an ankle
on Bayless’ foot
by In Walks Rudy on Oct 4, 2009 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions
there will be a trade. the math does not work out with playing time.
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
Given Brandon's sizing down and Rudy's inability to play anything ouside of SG I can see him being moved with Outlaw.
I could have sacrificed goin' out
To think my homies who did it, I used to joke about
From now on I'ma use self control instead of birth control
Cause $315 ain't worth your soul
$315 ain't worth your soul
$315 ain't worth it
I think I'd be OK with Bayless as a backup SG
and also 3rd sting PG, if Rudy/Outlaw brought in something amazing.
Come on you gotta listen unto me,
lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be. ~Johnny Cash
Yeah we almost have to make a trade.
I know we like our players, but there’s really no way we can keep all of them.
Roy, Aldridge, Oden, Rudy, Batum, Outlaw, Webster, Bayless, Blake, Miller, Joel... Holy crap!
I also think Nick will be able to man some SG minutes by next year.
The problem however, is that once you trade these players away you take something back, where are they going to play? It’s as if we just need to dump players completely. Even if we consolodated we would have a jam.
I could have sacrificed goin' out
To think my homies who did it, I used to joke about
From now on I'ma use self control instead of birth control
Cause $315 ain't worth your soul
$315 ain't worth your soul
$315 ain't worth it
We need to do a 3 for 1 or at least a 2 for 1.
Roy, Aldridge, Oden, Rudy, Batum, Outlaw, Webster, Bayless, Blake, Miller, Joel... Holy crap!
maybe a shiny draft pick?
Maybe a shot at john wall?
God, I’m greedy!
Come on you gotta listen unto me,
lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be. ~Johnny Cash
Wall needs a high-tempo team. We would have to put Nate in the package.
"I think he can still play" - Kevin Pritchard on Juwan Howard
between Nic, Martell and Bayless
I would not be all that concerned about the backup SG minutes if Rudy was hurt and out of the lineup, indefinitely. (Don’t get me wrong, the Blazers will be even stronger with Rudy, but he’s probably the “most replaceable” player in the top 10, because Roy plays 35 mpg and the rest of the “SG minutes” could be covered by those 3)
Two-for-one deal, add a quality veteran PF/C, plus an unprotected #1 draft choice. The roster needs to be thinned at the wing and fortified in the middle.
When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Unprotected first-round draft picks are hard to come by nowadays, although the New ...
Jersey Nets have some future draft picks — which were acquired from Dallas and Golden State, repsectively — as well as a sizable trade exception that makes them a viable trading partner in a potential Travis Outlaw deal.
Stupid people have stupid ideas.
Sign me up for any Golden State 1st round pick
Is it for the 1st round? When do the protections come off? They’ll be bad for a long time…
It came from the lopsided Marcus Williams deal, with this being the protection.
1. 2011 second-round draft pick.
2A. 2012 first-round draft pick if Golden State picks 8th or lower that year, but if not …
2B. 2013 first-round draft pick if Golden State picks 8th or lower that year, but if not …
2C. 2014 first-round draft pick if Golden State picks 7th or lower that year, but if not …
2D. 2014 second-round draft pick and 2016 second-round draft pick.
Basically, New Jersey is banking on Golden State being respectable during at least one of the 2010-2011, 2011-2012, or 2012-2013 seasons. If not, the return will just be two second-round draft picks in lieu of a first-round draft pick.
http://www.realgm.com/src_future_draftpicks.php
For some reason, the compensation was amended on 9/21/2009 from the original deal struck back on 7/22/2008.
Stupid people have stupid ideas.
three years for GS to basically get to 35 wins. That’s a fair gamble.
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
And don't win the lottery
Though if they win the lottery one year then I guess it’s more likely they’ll be better, but still in the lottery.
Good deal for just Marcus Williams…
That, along with Dallas' own 2010 first-round draft pick New Jersey ...
obtained in the Jason Kidd trade, would be an equitable return for Travis Outlaw. It’s stockpiling future assets, while not overloading the roster in the meantime.
Stupid people have stupid ideas.
Who would you trade, Rudy or Bayless?
If you said Rudy, you are out of your mind. He has a ton more talent than Bayless, and Bayless can only play SG too, so what’s the point of trading the better SG. Rudy is the better SG, in case I wasn’t clear, so we should keep him.
You are what you can defend
Bayless is better able to defend PGs. Whether he can defend the two is questionable.
Reverse is true for Rudy.
Obviously Rudy is a much more accomplished player, but it is a mistake to say they are both SGs.
by upper left corner on Oct 5, 2009 7:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Only thing: we haven't seen Rudy playing alongside Miller
I think Miller will know how to unlock Rudy’s game. Last season, Rudy was hamstrung by playing with guys who didn’t see the court like he does. No such problem with Miller. Unless Miller starts, that is…
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
Rudy played alongside Sergio last year
and few players see the court as well as Rodriguez can (and Sergio would especially “see” Rudy when the 2 were on the court together)
Miller and Rudy looked fine out there, tonight. I’d be surprised if the two of them didn’t have a large +/- advantage as a combo (the white team built a 16 point lead at one time in the 3rd quarter, thanks in large part to Oden) But after Andre went out “for good” in the 4th quarter the black team made their run and won by 9
When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Blake wins a pretty MVP trophy
Oden would have been better for his motivation
"I think he can still play" - Kevin Pritchard on Juwan Howard
Well deserved. He stood out. What were his numbers???
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Steve scored 17
and handed out 11 assists…I looked up at the stat board at the RG and came to the same conclusion as the “judges” did
FWIW, Batum led all scorers with 18
When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Here's how I grade 'em out in this meaningless exhibition...
Blake — A+
Rex — A-minus
Marty — A
Nico — B+
Oden — A
Pryzzy — C-minus
LMA — C+
Ime — B+
Travis — B-minus
Roy — INC.
Juwon — B
Inferno — B-minus
Andre — C+
Rudy — C+
I’m sure I’m missing a couple.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
by timbo on Oct 4, 2009 7:20 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
seems fair
I wish I spent more time playing catch with you and less time training my body and mind to kill you...
Blake needs that + removed for blowing so many fast breaks.
I could have sacrificed goin' out
To think my homies who did it, I used to joke about
From now on I'ma use self control instead of birth control
Cause $315 ain't worth your soul
$315 ain't worth your soul
$315 ain't worth it
by The Pirate on Oct 4, 2009 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Didn't have a great view of the game on the internet
But, I thought Nic and Oden showed the most exciting flashes of potential. You could see where their games could go. Blake performed well, but didn’t show something new.
I saw one crazy dunk attempt by Martell, but not much else.
It's true, Blake didn't show anything new..
He just keeps finding ways to help his team win. We really need to trade that guy with his lousy 17pts 11assists. It’s hard to say something nice about a player and admit that he is really a very good NBA point guard, when he’s just not very flashy. Blake has had a number of games where he has scored around 20pts, showing he can be a scorer in the NBA when he needs to, but generally plays team-first ball. Andre being on the team may push him to look for his own shot more, in order to keep his job, not so much, because it’s the best thing for the team. Andre on the other hand will need to defer more to other players than he has on his other teams. In the end, their games may prove to be fairly close in terms of production. I’m figuring Oden has a better chance of moving to the first unit than AM, because his physical abilities are a big leap ahead of Joel’s, but Miller and Blake are both very good, one scoring at the hoop more, and one with more shooting. Blake only needs to take it to the hoop a little more to balance out his game, which we know he is capable of, while Andre isn’t likely to become a better shooter. I’m hoping they can co-exist as an awesome PG rotation.
Oh wait, I forgot, Blake had his anomoly “career year” last year, never to be repeated, because the kid just can’t play basketball. So I guess we better trade him, and get Chris Paul for the mid level exception to be Bayless’s back-up.
in Freeman's column last week
Joe quoted Blazer coaches (Nate) and players (Roy) saying Blake is ’irreplaceable"
I came to the same conclusion. Oden is ready to start, but Blake isn’t ready to give up his starting job, just yet. And that’s not because Miller looked average, he made several nice passes and found ways to score and get to the FT line (there’s something that Blake cannot do…) I think the Blazers PG position is in the best hands it’s been since the days of Rod Strickland and Greg Anthony, and based on what Blake said on media day, I don’t expect he’ll look to leave PDX next summer…Steve knows he’s in a good situation and he’s playing in a system that suits his game very well
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I'd love Blake as a backup
Can’t get much more solider.
He won’t be dynamic like some backups, but he can start in a pinch obviously and he won’t hurt the team most games. He just needs to play with someone who can create better than he can, since it’s an obvious weakness of his.
wait seriously? I wasn’t watching
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
Yeah, as he was leaving he was talking to some
lady in the crowd as if he knew her. The camera got a bad shot of it. Then a second or two later it got readjusted and got a better view.
What were Oden's final stats?
Roy, Aldridge, Oden, Rudy, Batum, Outlaw, Webster, Bayless, Blake, Miller, Joel... Holy crap!
somebody mentioned 12/11
Not sure if that’s totally accurate or not, the stream I was watching made it pretty hard to catch everything
New Spanish Inquisition
Rudy to Oden
"Lighten up, Francis" - Sergeant Hulka
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Oct 4, 2009 7:30 PM PDT reply actions
NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition!!!
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
by timbo on Oct 4, 2009 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
REC for timbo!
"Lighten up, Francis" - Sergeant Hulka
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Oct 4, 2009 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Do you blame him?
a game that means even less than a pre-season game … and even at only 60% he was orchestrating everything and controlling the tempo of the game.
The guys that were really giving it their all seemed to have something to prove, Nic and Martell battling, Oden trying to show his new found confidence, etc.
I'd personally rather role the dice with Rex until Andre decides it's time to get with the program. But that's just me.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
I'd take my shot with the curt floor general than the me-first gunner with tunnel court vision.
Stupid people have stupid ideas.
really?
Colour me surprised…..I thought Bayless played well in this game both on and off the ball, which will be a quality we need from our 2nd guard in the future. Bayless is not a no hoper like you make him out to be, he has the ability to be what we need – he isn’t there yet but I believe he will be.
Trot out stats from his rookie year if you like but small sample size=weak argument in my mind.
I thought both played very well
Miller, of course, is playing himself into shape and has never played with these teammates before.
The bottom line: Bayless has potential to burn. Clearly, his outside shot has improved. But he’s behind two quality, veteran point guards. If Bayless is to get serious playing time this season, Blake or Miller will have to get injured at some point. Not that that’s unlikely; it’s a long season.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
I hate to agree with you AK because you are so cynical,
but in this case I have no choice. I thought Bayless had the absolute worst performance as far as auditioning goes for minutes at his spot. By that, what I mean is he performed absymally as the point. The stretch where he played point for the black team coincided with when the white squad took that seemingly backbreaking lead in the third. There were several instances where he was leading the break, and instead of looking for trailers he just went for the bucket himself, even if the defense was right on his tail. He scored a bunch for sure, but we just aren’t looking for an Allan Iverson. With Miller, Blake, Roy and Rudy, I think we have the best backcourt rotation in the league. If one of our points goes down though to injury, I’d rather have Rudy or Roy fill in all their minutes at backup point than have Bayless do it. I just have no confidence in his ability to help his team win at the pg postion.
"B-Roy is the best shooting guard I have played against"
-Ron Artest
I am a horrible basketball observer.
And I may have been biased. But it seemed to me that half the time something went wrong, Bayless was involved. Although he did do some good stuff too.
Disclaimer: everything I know about basketball I learned on Blazersedge.
The rap on him is he "paces himself" for the first 2 months of the season...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Miller was going about 60% the entire time
I was about 12 rows up from Barrett. Miller seemed to be favoring his leg (not sure which one) He came up to the table during a timeout and gave his quad/hammy a pretty good stretch. (Maybe he tweaked it during Nate’s conditioning run, who knows?) I was surprised to see how “thick-legged” Andre is, compared to the rest of the team. He’s not fat, just very solid in the lower body. This is why he gets good leverage against taller players, I suspect.
Andre is also herky-jerky, like Brandon. It may look like they’re not running at full speed, but then they’ll hesitate and then burst by the defense and get an “and 1” (Miller did this several times, tonight, and finished with the left hand) This was the ‘Dre that I saw on the youtube highlights last July, and he’s gonna be a tremendous improvement over Sergio. My favorite Miller sequence was when he dove for a loose ball, then twisted and threw a pass from his backside to Webster, who drove the baseline for a dunk. That’s court vision from a difficult angle, and Miller made it look easy
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Wow, Webster, Oden, and Batum sttodout the most to me.
Blake was also killin it from the 3. I was really impressed with GO’s quickness around the hoop. He seems like he has improved tremendously. I am so stoked for this season I wish it started today!!!
B-Roy got PAID!!!
Those were the best things, I think. If I were adding a 5th, I'd say that the much maligned Rex looked like an NBA player.
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I don't envy Nate at all
If B-Rex can keep it up and show some more stuff it makes you wonder if Blake gets traded by the deadline (along with maybe another player or two) to open up PT for him.
Then again, I’m probably getting way to ahead of myself, J-Bay isn’t even going to sniff the court unless Miller or Blake goes down for an extended period, and I suspect pretty strongly he’s going to ask for a trade if he starts racking the DNPs
Bayless did well as SG, not at PG
Because the team was divided in half, Bayless got to be Roy’s back up. Unfortunately there isn’t much space for him to play there either during the season. He is a little undersized to be a SG, but his chances to play could come from any of four guys getting injured; Roy, Rudy, Blake, Miller. Of course Webster will also be getting some SG minutes if Rudy or Roy goes down. Bayless has gotten his shooting together, which improves his argument for PT, but I for one still have reservations about his ball handling.
i have reservations about blakes ball handling from tonight....
his shot makes him worth it.
whats the difference
Oden as work in progress > Pryzbilla
Oden was eating up Pryzbilla for awhile there. On Twitter, people keep saying he is a work in progress. Absolutely. He is a work in progress who should start.
If Oden is a work in progress,
than I can’t wait to see the finished product!
Roy, Aldridge, Oden, Rudy, Batum, Outlaw, Webster, Bayless, Blake, Miller, Joel... Holy crap!
The good Oden moves were the unstoppable ones
That spin was QUICK, the hook shots soft… Joel was not doing his normal defense, particularly when letting Oden dunk, but those weren’t what got us excited.
Count Joel amoung the old dudes who have nothing to prove and didnt bring his A game
by southern oregon on Oct 4, 2009 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions
He didn't wanna get hurt, or cause someone to get hurt
Joel’s game isn’t really made for fan-fests anyways… he’s not exactly a highlight reel. Maybe of solidness, but that doesn’t play well in an exhibition game.
Miller prolly coulda' put on a show
But didn’t care to and was taking it easy… and for taking it easy he looked good.
A starting line up of
Rudy,Dre,Joel,Martell and Travis with JB ,Juwan and Dante coming off the bench would have a shot at the playoffs in the East
by southern oregon on Oct 5, 2009 12:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Miller seems to have a Roy like affect on the game.
He plays at his own pace regardless of others. Good stuff.
He was going to the hoop 2 on one, faked the alley oop easy lay up. He also draws fouls like crazy.
Andre Miller is like having a second Brandon Roy out there. He is one of the guys that will get us far in the playoffs. He is just a really smart player.
On the minus side: I don't have any faith whatsoever in his jumper. And he shot a 3 that was like a Worst of Sergio/Rex brick...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
if he’s playing with Oden, Rudy, Martell, and Travis, he doesn’t need to shoot.
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
it was an exhibition game..
look at stats, he virtually never shoots that shot. dude understands the game and absolutely has a roy like effect, the game goes to his tempo. comparing rex to andre is absolutely ridiculous, i was at the game and rex just looked like a gunner, while andre was measuring everything. i am not a cynic at all, but rex at full potential is a.i. lite. exactly what this team doesn’t need. he is trade bait at this point, nothing more.
'do it, do it, do it 'til you're satisfied!' - brian wheeler
by blazersunited on Oct 4, 2009 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions
very good...
running or bringing it up slow, he’s just in control at all times.
by In Walks Rudy on Oct 4, 2009 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions
he schooled Batum on one breakaway
Miller was driving to the basket after a steal and Nic was “measuring” him for a swat, but Andre faked a pass to a trailer and laid the ball in befiore Batum could block it
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I went to it. Oden looked much better, but air balled some shots. I didn't like that.
Andre Miller is a much better point guard than Steve Blake.
Overall, the fan fest was lame. Got there at 4, waited in line. Then when they opened the doors everyone rushed the door and I got in last. I was so frustrated. I got the worst seats and everyone cut in line.
I deal with those who cut in line on a weekly basis.
Everyday after work I wait to catch the 96 I-5 express to Tualatin in downtown. Regardless of how many people are waiting in line. (usually quite a handful always) There are 3-4 middle aged females that when they get there they always walk up and wait to where the front of the line so they can get prime seat pickings. Countless times I wanted to say something to them but always bit my tongue. Those *******.
My friend ...
… call ‘em out.
If it’s irking you, it’s irking a hundred others too.
there is nothing wrong with calling people on their bad behavior, so long as it is done respectfully.
On the other hand, you call out the line-cutters one day, you’ll just have to do it the next day too.
Sorry, Charley.
Rudyculize: The act of Rudy making others look slow, dim and generally oafish.
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it was a cattle call, no doubt
I think the "better’ line was at the SW entrance. The NW entrance had a line going back to the MC and there was no way we were getting into that one. Trying to funnel all of those folks through the turnstiles was mass hysteria, but it was worth it to watch a game on the lower level, for free!
(BTW, I flashed one of my home-printed family passes and got to park in the garage, even though the sign said the lot was “full” (just act like you’re a season ticket holder at fan fest, no one can tell the difference) I doubt many real season ticket holders attend the scrimmage, it would be like the Lido deck high-rollers venturing down into “steerage” in a luxury liner)
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Andre Miller is a much better point guard than Steve Blake.
yep
Blake won the MVP award and had a great game… but I was still more impressed by Andre’s affect on the game. A laid back 60% Miller > A pumped up 120% Blake.
"Father Time is undefeated."
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
yeah, its definetely a non-trivial possibility that father time will catch up to Andre before his 2 year deal is up
I don’t think its happened yet though. Also, because Andre is a notorious slow starter, it may be a while before we really know.
Ha. Yeah, I have some insight into your feelings about Bayless...
My feelings about Miller are not as strong, but I can see how it can happen.
Bayless was one of the most impressive gaurds in the game. He most definitely stepped his game up.
Clutch 3’s at the end of the game and to beat shot clock buzzers. He should get playing time, he looks like an NBA player now.
If Jerryd Bayless can hit his shot efficiently, he'll be closer to reach his peak potential of ...
Monta Ellis/Louis Williams. However, I’m not one to take much out of someone’s performance in what essentially amounts to a practice scrimmage.
Stupid people have stupid ideas.
his shooting motion was quick enough to be effective and he’s showing nicer touch. That should translate to the big boy games. As I said below, it’s about him running an offense. If he can do that, then Brandon can mask a lot of his other flaws.
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
Defense would still be an issue with those two guys playing together, as Jerryd ...
Bayless is overaggressive and prone to committing absolutely stupid ticky-tack fouls in one-on-one matchups, has way too small of a wingspan to clog the passing lanes and get steals at a proficient rate, isn’t apt at making the correct rotations on perimeter, and is cringeworthy with how miserable he is when it comes to fighting through screens.
Stupid people have stupid ideas.
c’mon now. CP3 isn’t blessed with a tremendous wingspan, yet he led the league in steals last year. I don’t seem to recall Stockton having Rondo-arms either.
I do agree with you that he’s bad defensively at this point. It seems to me that it’s more of an inexperience and overaggression issue, though.
I think Brandon will get better on D as the rest of the team requires him less on offense. He’s a good defender when he feels like it.
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
He has normal PG sized arms
They aren’t 6’8" Rondo arms, but we don’t see Outlaw invading passing lanes with his lanky limbs. Reactions and instincts makes one a good thief.
He is certainly too aggressive on defense, you are right, but he’s also a rookie. Oden was often too aggressive as well, and you agree with me that he’ll turn out good defensively.
Screens, rotations, not being so aggressive, all comes with experience. Willingness + experience is what most young players need for defense, if their body is athletic enough to handle it.
I think he'll score pretty efficiently and be a mediocre willing passer
He’ll never get a lot of assists, but if he can learn to be less aggressive on defense (easier to turn it down than turn it up) and have rudimentary PG ability and play most of the time off the ball, I think he can be a good pairing with Roy.
He gets to the line like a maniac, and I know he can score, but I need to see him play smarter defense (I think he can play ‘good’ defense when he isn’t fouling, just really inexperienced defense) and how to defer properly— which will either come, or it won’t. I think he’s smart enough to figure it out.
I don’t think he sees the layers of passing good PGs see, and he won’t ever. He isn’t a horrible passer, and he WANTS to pass. The willingness makes him not a ballhog, but he doesn’t have the vision. But, he can break down a defender better than Blake ever could, and Blake isn’t a strong passer/playmaker either… just a very safe and careful one.
Good PG defense + ability to score efficiently + able to dribble the ball up the court and pass it off to Roy and sometimes take it himself = The Bayless Theory. SG on offense, PG on defense. No hardcore playmaking required.
He’s got a chance. Not because of today (I didn’t get a good look at him), but because of his athleticism and work ethic.
Mortimer
meaning
He was about as good as I thought he’d be. Signs of significant improvement.. Not Wilt or Hakeem or Shaq, but good enough to help the Blazers win more games. .
Andre was PR friendly tonight.
He smiled when Barrett asked his question and he was friendly to the kids on the floor. That’s all the non-basketball effort I want from him. I could care less about his off-court life as long as he doesn’t embarrass the team.
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Oct 4, 2009 8:21 PM PDT reply actions
More 6 man units would help
"...the primary focus of all obstacles is to induce labor, so progression can be born." - LiL C
I know this sounds homer-ish
But how many teams can field two such credible basketball squads—with serviceable subs, yet? There was just an awfully large amount of talent displayed on that court tonight. I had to keep reminding myself that those guys all actually play on the same team.
Dang: Nate really DOES have his work cut out for him. At some point in this season, in his heart of hearts, I wonder if he won’t be rooting for a few minor injuries. You know: an ankle sprain here, a deep thigh bruise there…
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by hurryup09 on Oct 4, 2009 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I suspect that our starting 5 won't be our "best 5"
But lets say it was…
Our backups would be Blake, Rudy, Martell/Batum (I dunno who will win), Outlaw, Joel.
That’s probably good enough to win 30 games, which might not sound like much, but it’s our dang bench.
I'll see you homerishness and raise you a rec
I love it. I do know we need to tighten up, but it is hard to see where to best do that.
"...the primary focus of all obstacles is to induce labor, so progression can be born." - LiL C
In my roster/minutes computations
It is, sadly, Outlaw who gets the shaft.
Martell and Batum platoon with whoever be better getting more. Neither over 30 minutes, unless one is just that much better than the other.
Blake’s minutes cut, unless Dre falls apart. Neither will play over 30 minutes.
Joel’s minutes lessened.
Roy 35, LMA 38, Oden as much as he can avoid foul trouble, Rudy 25 with mix n’ match lineups…
where do Rudy get 25 if Martell and Batum are soaking up 40 minutes?
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
if Travis gets the shaft, that does ease the logjam somewhat.
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
Since I love Travis I don't want him to get the shaft
But since I think he might get the shaft, I hope he can be traded to a place he can thrive in.
Who knows, maybe he takes that backup SF spot and it’s Martell who gets the shaft. I don’t think it’s likely, but who knows?
dealing Webster is becoming more possible
with each day that he shows that he’s fully healthy. If Martell makes it through the pre-season without a setback, his trade value will be back on the rise, again (especially if he gets “seen” by NBA scouts during those games…) But in the end, if it does come down to Travis and Martell in a trade proposal, there’s no doubt which Blazer has the contract that other teams will be most interested in (Outlaw = expiring)
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Outlaw's contract is more attractive to team looking to dump salary,
but Webster’s contract is more attractive to a team that wants to keep him.
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Oct 5, 2009 12:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, if he does well
His contract could be EXTREMELY good.
If he earns the starting spot over Batum, I figure Martell’s 5 million a year will be a fantastic deal.
Best problem in the world to have.
Tell that to the ‘99-00 Blazers. I’m not saying KP is Whitsitt and the current Blazers are not the ‘99-00 squad. But too many young vets and not enough minutes o go around may seem like a GM’s dream, but to the coach and players who aren’t getting enough PT, it’s not as fun as a fantasy roster. At least one more veteran role player who’s better than Howard/Collins to replace an excess wing player would help (I thought Juwan looked sharp tonight, BTW, I’m just not sure if he can defend well enough in the post to be a playoff reserve)
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Not that it can't create difficulties
I still know which problem I’d rather have… no talent, or “too much”.
With everyone on less than MLE or rookie sized contracts
“Consolidating” is much, much, much easier than it was to get all this talent. It’s a good problem to have that is extremely easy to fix…
I imagine they are waiting to see HOW they want to ‘fix’ it. There are a lot of ways the talent on this team can go, and we’re still in a position where we can wait and see how it develops before we move good players just to solidfy roles and rotation.
"Consolidating" is much, much, much easier than it was to get all this talent
In KP’s case, I’m not so sure that’s true. He made some great draft day trades (with a little help from Paul Allen’s wallet…) and of course winning the lottery the year Oden came out was a bolt from the blue.
But I think it’s going to be harder for KP to deal away a few of these kids because most of them he drafted and all of them he’s watched develop. There won’t be an “easy” choice (like Jack and Sergio) this time around, unless one of the players (or more likely, their agent) “snaps” and demands more PT or a ticket out of town. And even then, there’s the fear of trading the “wrong” guy, like Whitsitt did with Jerm.
No, I don’t think consolidation will be easy at all for KP, especially during the season when he doesn’t like to disrupt chemistry. But if he wants the team to be ready for the finals, it’s exactly what he will have to do, sooner or later
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You also have to consider that injuries can happen, and probably will
Not every player plays every game, so there are more minutes to go around than it might appear.
That goes back to what I was saying
KP and Nate must be figuring that injuries will inevitably ease some of the pressure to find minutes for so many capable guys. It’s a long, long season, and the NBA is a physical game. At least for stretches, the less-played players should get their minutes.
But, of course, come playoff time the rotation will have to shrink. At that point, the rubber will meet the road. Unless guys are out of action with injuries, the Blazers will have some very unhappy campers.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
If we have a lead near the end, spot the opponents some points.
Overtime.
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On a positive note, Bayless’ shot has been better in an extremely small and somewhat irrelevant sample size. The release does look different. He definitely worked on it.
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
yes, this is true
I think he showed somewhat more than marginal improvement (like you said, based on a sample size that means less than summer league) on is shot and maybe even on his defense. Not sure if that really makes him anything more than he was.
"...the primary focus of all obstacles is to induce labor, so progression can be born." - LiL C
I think he’s shown marked improvement since SL 2008 in dishing the ball in the flow of the offense and shooting. His defense is probably marginally better.
Where he really struggles is running the offense, understanding it. Maybe the switch will flip Maybe it won’t. It’s a low-risk investment.
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
He does not run the offense well at all. At this point, I’d trust Nic to run our offense as a point forward before I’d trust Bayless.
The only way waiting isn’t worth it is if we can get something now that we actually want or need for him.
"...the primary focus of all obstacles is to induce labor, so progression can be born." - LiL C
"He does not run the offense well at all." is an untrue statement.
It is simply the wrong conclusion based on what is observable.
by blacknoiseNW on Oct 4, 2009 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Evidence?
Everything I have observed in Bayless is a player who entirely lacks the ability or mindset to run an offense well… at all. What did you see?
"...the primary focus of all obstacles is to induce labor, so progression can be born." - LiL C
Remember: a bunch of teams gave up on Billups before that switch flipped for him
Steve Nash was also less than dazzling early on. The NBA point guard position doesn’t come easily to everyone. If Bayless can be patient—big “if”—it might behoove the Blazers to keep him around.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
I already dealt with the Luke "Golden Boy" Ridnour will someday become Steve Nash ...
gibberish from Sonic fans a few years ago, so let me roll my eyes when I sit here and read the same exact type of nonsense by people who foolishly proclaim that Jerryd Bayless has anything but a one-in-a-million shot of developing into the next Chauncy Billups.
Stupid people have stupid ideas.
It isn't likely
I think my “Monta with defense” hopes is more than lofty enough!
Next Billups is getting greedy.
hmmm
maybe we can play some guys during halftime, instead of those little kid games we could have Bayless, Martell, TO, Dante, and Juwan play against a team of mascots or something
too many good players
does anyone think theres just too much talent?
i think after whoever shows themselves as most deserving of playing time management should consider a trade. i would say try to get gerald wallace and dj augustin…but there batum and webster…theres too many good players. and no this isnt a good predicament to be in. theres only so many minutes and so many egos/those desiring contracts to go around.
trade everyone thats not roy/lamarcus/greg for danny granger. the words i keep typing are dumb but im jsut so confused as to how this is all going to flesh out.
Watched in person,
Everyone looked good. Things that stood out……
Glimpses of an Oden I haven’t seen since Ohio state.
Martell looks great.
Rudy had 9 assists.
And Travis was jumping out of the gym for rebounds.
I almost feel sorry for the Kings this week…… Almost :)
The west is stacked again this year? "Sure, it's stacked ..... below us". Ben
"That's just how I get down"........ Andre Miller
Did he really have 9 assists? haha wow I wish I knew that when the jack ass on the escalator tried
to say he was a terrible basketball player.
Rudy's shot was off
And I think he and Miller have more communication problems than others. But Rudy ran the point well tonight. Defending the point… eh… Rudy does not deal with screens well at all, and Blake was just owning him.
But that’s RUDY the guy was born to hoop and hasn’t stopped much in the last year and half-ish. I have no worries about Rudy.
"...the primary focus of all obstacles is to induce labor, so progression can be born." - LiL C
I wonder if we package Rudy/Bayless/Travis and go after a big boy point guard.
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
jose calderon?
i think he would be a perfect fit on this team with his distribution and 3 point ability. rudy bay and trav would be a little much tho
by saveourbluths on Oct 4, 2009 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Jose is a perfect fit on offense. Nice shooting, surprisingly low usage rate, and a good A/TO guy. There are two problems: (1) Colangelo is gunning to win now and (2) Calderon is a horrible defender.
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
but they live for jarrett jack. and there arent that many good let alone great defenders at the pg position. take the great with the bad as in offense to defense.
i just saw ur endorsement of Hinrich. hinrich truly is a good defender. that would be nice to him as a blazer with 3 point shot and D.
by saveourbluths on Oct 4, 2009 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
The Raptors are built around Bosh, Calderon and Bargnani
They wouldn’t (and neither would I) trade him for Bayless (no use for him over there), Travis (Lottery pick at SF, Bosh and Bargnani at PF) and then Rudy, who’d be a good fit there, but not enough to get Calderon
Nobody expects a Spanish Acquisition!
If the team crashes and burns and they think they'll lose Bosh
I could see them blow it up a bit, but I don’t really see them moving Calderon either.
Maybe...
…but aside from HINRICH, what big boy PG can be got for ANYTHING we’d give up aside from Oden or Roy? Let alone Rudy/Bayless/Travis.
Almost all PGs better than what Andre has been in the past simply aren’t available…
—
I still want Hinrich in a Blazer uni.
Anyway.
I think there will have to be a trade to thin the herd at some point, and we appear to be stacked at the 2-5 positions. It seems to me that whatever we do will be a few players for a point guard.
You’re right, though… it’s harder to actually think of a scenario where we could get a good young point guard. Conley maybe? Memphis might be just dumb enough.
I think we need a trade sooner rather than later. There are just too many good players.
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
Bayless, Travis, Blake for Hinrich would be a fantasy and a half.
"...the primary focus of all obstacles is to induce labor, so progression can be born." - LiL C
you would have hard time making the argument that Hinrich is
better than Blake, let alone Blake + Travis + Bayless.
by blacknoiseNW on Oct 4, 2009 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Hmm
I’d say Hinrich is a LOT better than Blake.
Much better defender (Hinrich is one of the best at the PG spot, and can guard SGs as well), better pick and roll, not a great shot creator for himself or others, but better than Blake still.
They are pretty equal shooting wise.
Hinrich’s defense is what makes him MUCH better, but he’s also better offensively.
I don’t wanna hatch more Hinrich-wars though, since it’s a dead issue now.
I agree that Hinrich is better...but the stats don't back it up
the point is that a lot of people endorse way overpaying for marginal upgrades. PG and backup PF remain the two best targets for upgrading the roster, but as you mention elsewhere – the price for such an upgrade far exceeds the available return….
by blacknoiseNW on Oct 4, 2009 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions
the stats DO back it up. Adjusted +/-, defensive on/off marks, etc.
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
82games.com says the margin was miniscule
with defense being the prime advantage for Hinrich. But the basic point remains the same – how much is a marginal upgrade worth? To me, it is just annoying for people to throw out Bayless + Blake + Outlaw for Hinrich when you can do a little research and wonder why you would even bother with a Blake for Hinrich straight up (cost, anyone?)
by blacknoiseNW on Oct 4, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
To me, cost is meaningless
Cap space is gone for the next decade and more.
Best players who fit the best is all we need to worry about, unless someone has a completely ridiculous contract that harms the financial stability and flexibility of the team.
Hinrich has a fair deal that gets lower every year. Blake has a fair deal as well. Ya pay more for Hinrich, because you get more, especially defensively.
Is Hinrich twice the player Blake is?
No, but yes— he is paid twice as much. It doesn’t really work that way though…
No question, Hinrich is better defensively
but NET productivity is the best measure of effectiveness. You have to outscore your opponent to win, and ironically, Miller was far superior to both Blake and Hinrich in that regard.
by blacknoiseNW on Oct 4, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, Hinrich's not a great scorer
But, my point was, he’s still better than Blake at that, AND his defense makes it so
he’s quite a bit better.
Especially on a team like ours that was so good offensively and stands to get even
better from the improvements of LMA, Oden, Batum, Roy, Webster, etc. Scoring
wasn’t the problem, defense was, so the Hinrich edge in defense becomes even
more important than his slight offensive edge.
For an offensive upgrade at PG
I don’t think we coulda’ got anyone better than Miller, so we did good there.
Just gotta hope he isn’t worse than Blake on defense, and we’re ahead of the game.
huh? Kirk was a -6.4 defensively, an excellent number. Blake was a -.5. That is a HUGE difference.
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
I could use a good link to defensive metrics
but the spark for this discussion isn’t whether Hinrich is better than Blake – but what you would pay for someone like Hinrich. The net improvement over Blake isn’t so great that Bayless and Outlaw become “throw in’s”.
If you are going to pay high – get someone really good. Problem is, the really good ones aren’t available. Even if someone like Harris was available – would he be the Net’s version or the Dallas version, playing for the Blazers? Because of the talent of the Blazer roster – I’d lean toward the latter – and that would never be worth the cost.
by blacknoiseNW on Oct 4, 2009 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I think the Dallas version would be perfect
He played better defense when he wasn’t relied upon to be the top scorer, and he knew how to play without the ball in his hands all the time.
One man fastbreak, great defender, underrated passer… the Mavs version would be awesome.
That is precisely what a point guard is supposed to do
in Nate’s system. The question is – how hard is it to get that skill set? You would be paying for the Net’s version, and getting the Dallas version, but the Net’s version costs a whole lot more….
by blacknoiseNW on Oct 4, 2009 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions
He's so good and young
I say the Dallas version is more than worth it, especially if it doesn’t cost LMA.
Oden and Roy are totally not an option, of course.
Good Point
That is also why Hinrich is not better offensively than Blake. Blake plays for a much more talented team, where he defers to a bunch of other players before he takes his own shot, the way D Fisher does on the Lakers. On the Blazers Hinrich would not be shooting as much as he did when he was the starter for the Bulls, and Blake shoots a higher percentage. Why am I letting myself get sucked into this?
couldn’t it be argued that Blake shoots a higher percentage precisely because he plays with more talented players?
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
The Bulls try to make Hinrich be more of a pure PG in the past
He isn’t a great playmaker, and is similar to Blake there, but just more athletic.
As a combo guard who defends PGs and plays off of Roy, I think he’d be Blake+… for sure.
Everyone shoots better when wide open, and Hinrich would be wide open as a Blazer.
Oh man, I didn’t wanna hatch a Hinrich debate…
Steve made lots of shots with a hand in his face.
That’s selective memory. How many times has Blake had to bail out a dead offensive set, by putting up a three with 1 on the shot clock? It happened quite a bit last year. Yes, he does benefit from kick outs from a doubled Roy, but Hinrich had to benefit a little from Gordon drawing a double too. That’s just basketball. How many threes did Blake shoot against Boston when Roy was injured? How did he do? Look it up if you don’t remember. I think it would be ridiculous to say the guy isn’t really a very good shooter.
How about this. Hinrich played in the much weaker East, against much weaker teams and defenses, so his shooting percentage is artificially high. That is true, but ok, at this point I am just having fun. The reasons these Hinrich things get so rediculous is because his supporters way overvalue/oversell a guy who is good but not great. He’s a good player, and I wouldn’t mind him as a Blazer, but I wouldn’t trade Blake for him, or pay his large salary, which even in it’s last year is more than what we will pay Andre. Why can’t we get a real back up power forward with some of the guys we have to trade? Frankly the next franchise point guard for the Blazers will come from the draft, and will most likely be after or on the tail end of the current championship window. As others have said the top PGs are not available. At least we agree that we don’t need a superstar PG to win a ring. A team can only hold so many stars, and we have plenty.
Ben Gordon as a playmaker isn't really something that exists
Hinrich doesn’t get kick outs from Ben Gordon, it’s the other way around.
I never said Blake wasn’t a good shooter, but he isn’t a good scorer. Obviously he’s a very good 3 point shooter.
the next franchise point guard for the Blazers will come from the draft
That hasn’t happened since Terry Porter, nearly 25 years ago The Blazers have a horrible record of drafting/developing PGs, no matter who the coach/GM are. It’s a worthy discussion to come up with trade scenarios that target a young PG (KP supposedly has his eyes on Harris, for example) and use Portland’s excess wing players as bait. But I’m happy with Miller/Blake for the next 2 years, and Hinrich’s ship sailed last Feb
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Hinrich gets to the FT
much more than Blake, but so does Miller…so I’m not sure why we’re discussing Kirk. He’s gonna be a Bull for the forseeable future
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Here’s a link to Steve Blake’s 82games page. The defensive on/off stat is what I’m looking at here. The net “-.5” means that per 100 possessions, the Blazers were .5 points better on defense when Steve was on the floor.
Kirk was a -6.4. That’s an incredible stat.
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
Ah...the stat i've been using to compare
is how well opponents play against a particular player….Hinrich was an above average defender in terms of opponent PER, and Blake below average (also from 82games.com)
by blacknoiseNW on Oct 4, 2009 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions
opponent PER is sketchy because matchups in basketball are not usually linear… there are switches, some defenders draw the best player on the other team, etc. Defensive on/off does a better job of looking at what a given player does when on the floor, in my opinon.
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
Exactly
We’ll never get an elite or near elite PG on role players. (Although LMA might also have the potential to land us something.) But who is the PG that we can get for this team than will be a big enough difference on both ends?
"...the primary focus of all obstacles is to induce labor, so progression can be born." - LiL C
The best ones are keepers for everyone
We got a good one because he is old and it was a bad FA market for him (and for us, really, but free agency eats it anyways).
If only we coulda’ turned Raef into Billups! Woulda’ accomplished the same thing for Detroit, but I guess Dumars wanted to LOOK like he was still trying to win and sell tickets with Iverson. Bah phooey.
Don't forget jersey sales.
"...the primary focus of all obstacles is to induce labor, so progression can be born." - LiL C
I think what a lot of people miss is that "elite" players on one team
are mere role players on another. What would happen if CP3 was added to the roster? Would ROY still be an All Star? The Blazers potentially have three All Stars in ROY, LMA and Oden. When you have the golden triangle, you gild the treasure, rather than try to add another leg and make it a square.
by blacknoiseNW on Oct 4, 2009 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions
What does Chris Paul have to do with anything?
Oh, and before you go any further, don’t insult Paul by putting his name in the same sentence as LaMarcus Aldridge. Even as an atheist, I know that to be sacrilege and blasphemy in the eyes of the basketball gods.
Anyway, the conversation here is about Kirk Hinrich, who’s undoubtedly superior to Steve Blake — with respect to both advanced peripheral stats and the naked eye — yet, as has already been mentioned, it’s now a moot point. Currently, Andre Miller is Portland’s go-to guy at point guard—for better or worse.
Stupid people have stupid ideas.
Your reading skills could use improvement.
LMA is not mentioned in the same sentence as CP3.
by blacknoiseNW on Oct 4, 2009 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions
You could say that they're both in the last sentence.
Disclaimer: everything I know about basketball I learned on Blazersedge.
All right, I'll fix it.
" […] don’t insult Paul by putting his name in the same sentence paragraph as LaMarcus Aldridge."
Now all is right with the world.
Stupid people have stupid ideas.
Hinrich is better than Blake, in a vacuum
but for Nate and Brandon, Steve is their guy. Kirk could come in here and play for Portland, but it may take years for him to reach the comfort level that Blake has with Roy, already. I’m not saying that it couldn’t happen, but that it’s a moot point now because KP had the opportunity to acquire Hinrich last spring when he was “available” for RLEC (and Blake’s shoulder was in a sling) and KP didn’t pull the trigger. Now that Miller’s on board, there’s no reason to pursue Kirk
If you want to take a current Blazer and make a deal for Portland’s future starting PG, look at Rudy. There’s a guy with “not enough minutes” in PDX who could go to a team that needs a starting SG and become an all-star, PDQ
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Rudy had a bunch of nice passes
I don’t think he really looked comfortable running the team though. It seemed like he was forcing things. He would bring the ball up the court and then just attack immediately rather than taking his time to survey the situation and set up plays. Hopefully he will show some improvement in his ability to run the team as he gets more experience with his new role.
by trk on Oct 4, 2009 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I see your point
I think Rudy runs a bit faster than the team, also, so it makes it look even more frantic. But I really feel like Rudy gets how to run the team. That is obviously the toughest role to plop yourself into. I think Rudy and ’Dre both looked less apt for running the offense tonight than they really are because the connection between the playmaker and the rest of the unit cannot be faked. Rudy just needs to adjust to how different it is to run an offense throughout the possession as opposed to just making plays happen when time is running down.
"...the primary focus of all obstacles is to induce labor, so progression can be born." - LiL C
I think Rudy and ’Dre both looked less apt for running the offense tonight
They were both on the white unit, and had a 16 point lead in the 3rd quarter. When Miller went out, the black team (last year’s starters) went on a run and pulled ahead. I’d say Andre was pretty darn “apt” at running that white team, for a guy with less than a week of practice time with his new teammates
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Some guy was saying how Rudy Fernandez is a terrible player and we should have traded
him for David Lee when we had the chance. I wanted to punch him in the face. First of all it’s a scrimmage, second of all David Lee is the best player on the Knicks. The New York Knicks. Rudy actually has a role here, not backing up Aldridge and Oden which is what David Lee is goo for.
How about that Juwon Howard?
He tossed that outlet pass like a pro. Even made some nice entry passes to Oden.
Rudy at PG is pretty much a disaster. He makes too many risky decisions like forcing passes and splitting double teams. I still say keeping him on the weakside, coming off screens, or running the wing is the best option.
Blake was in mid-season form running the fast break.
Roy, Miller, and LMA looked liked they were playing half-speed.
Outlaw was Outlaw.
Oden made Przybilla look invisible. I fully expect Oden to start this season.
Batum and Webster make a good 1-2 punch at the 3 position.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
in fairness to Rudy, this was a fan-fest
There is never a better time to try risky passes and moves. It may well be that Rudy at PG will be a disaster in general, but let’s at least wait until we see some preseason games to make that kind of judgement.
Good point
ya think some guys were a little more motivated than others for this"event"
by southern oregon on Oct 4, 2009 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I would rank fanfest just below summer league in terms of being able to draw conclusions.
Preseason ranks well ahead of both of those.
Cunningham was throwing down monster dunks during warmups.
Dude can jump!
Whatever
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That was great!!
Thanks for mentioning that. It was on my mind. Bayess, and he were having a nice lil back and forth there. His athleticism is right there with Outlaw. Dude got the hops and the creativity to go dunk contest.
Of course, besides for all of that, I am all about DCunn now. He is special, not in a I’m going to be a star (or even a major minute player) kind of way, but in how he gets the game, scraps hard, and is amazing at broken plays.
"...the primary focus of all obstacles is to induce labor, so progression can be born." - LiL C
You are captain of the Cunny club
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I think I am at least on the board. I was a Dante fanboy during summer league.
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
got it idol? You make on misstep and the board is coming after you rhead.
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
I respect all decisions of the board.
And will serve in the capacity of the DCunny Club Captain honorably.
"...the primary focus of all obstacles is to induce labor, so progression can be born." - LiL C
Because back in the day~=>200 years ago,
…they used this word as slang for the word your thinking of…seen it in arcane historical documentation, like lpersonal letters, diaries…
"The match in Los Angeles is a good opportunity to begin to demonstrate that we want to make war." Rudy Fernández (translated)
not in a I’m going to be a star (or even a major minute player) kind of way
the scouts who saw Dante at Tim Grg’s camp (in August) projected him as an NBA starters in 2 years. i’m not sure how that could be possible, in Portland, but he has the upside, according to professional eyes
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I agree
He was just having fun. It was a FAN-FEST for Petey Pablo’s sake. Just like last year when he did the spun the ball around his back twice before passing it.
exactly - can every please think of Petey Pablo?
you’re a wordwizard
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Oct 4, 2009 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I just think Rudy played exactly how I imagined him playing with the ball
Whether it’s regular season or practice, I don’t think he’s going stop taking those risks. That’s what makes him such a great player. We just don’t need that at the PG position, at least, not full time with Rudy handling the ball.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
I was surprised he was trying to split double teams
He seemed to be dribbling better than last year, quicker with the ball (he’d be soooo slow for a SG with the ball in his hands, in stark contrast to how quick he is off the ball), and trying to do PG stuff like splitting double teams.
It was nice to see, but needs to be seen in real games to know if he can do it. I think he’s an awesome passer, but I worry about his ballhandling ability.
I think it's nice to know McMillan is willing to experiment.
I see this as a sign of respect to Rudy. Giving him a chance to be a playmaker and control the ball. Ultimately, I think McMillan is gonna stick to his type of basketball which is limiting turnovers.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
I agree
I say he gives Rudy lengthy minutes at PG to either let him hang himself or prove himself during the pre-season, and in the early parts of the year.
I think, like you, he’ll pull the plug on it when the turnovers pile up, but I hope he sees it as a longterm solution and tries to give Rudy as many minutes as a PG as possible.
that's funny
because I recall Nate saying he likes Rudy taking chances, here’s the quote
Those types of daring, thread-the-needle passes still resonate in the mind of McMillan. On Thursday, the coach could still recall two passes Fernandez made last preseason, when he bounced a pass through the legs of a defender.
“That is why I want to get that in there,” McMillan said, laughing at the memory of those passes. “He will make some turnovers, but he will also make that pass. He is a very, very unselfish player. So much so that he turns the ball over looking for his teammates. Plus, I think he wants this.”
http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindblazersbeat/2009/10/mcmillan_wants_to_run_more_of.html
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I remember him saying it
But in the past he has been the opposite of that statement.
However, it would be another example of the growth of Coach Nate. Traditionally, he is very anti-turnovers. If Rudy’s creativity and the struggle to find him minutes helps him not worry so much about it, I’m all for it.
I expect Nate to change and grow as our players change and grow.
Oh I agree
I don’t think Nate will like Rudy’s turnovers any more than he enjoyed Sergio’s “creativity” when it misfired…but if the coach wants the team to “push” the ball he’s going to have to let them all make some mistakes.
As for Rudy I think it will come down to how he defends, and how he fights through screens, etc. Segio couldn’t do it, and he’s gone. Rudy’s a much better player than Rodriguez, but for Fernandez to keep earning his minutes he’s going to have to improve his ballhandling and perimeter defense. We’ll be watching
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Rudy is a good passer. His problem is his dribbling, which is mediocre for a shooting guard and would be sub-par against any number of quick point guards in the league.
"I think he can still play" - Kevin Pritchard on Juwan Howard
just from watching Spain in Eurobasket, though………….. I think that the distance between playmaker and point guard is evident. Sure, he runs a nice pick and roll and is a great post entry passer, but he struggles bringing the ball up the floor and has a generally weak handle. I think we’ll see the ball in Rudy’s hands (as it was down the stretch last year), but he’ll probably be with a point guard.
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
I think Rudy is capable of becoming a PG eventually
But he isn’t ready right now. They should play him at SG together with a PG, and gradually add more PG duties to his role when he shows that he is capable of carrying them out successfully. Rudy hasn’t really been a full-time PG before, so this will be a learning experience for him.
good take. I was most impressed with Oden, Webster, and Batum.
Andre is clearly playing his way into shape at this point. He didn’t care too much and it was evident. Brandon and LaMarcus were halfhearted at best.
The thing to take away is that Oden is light on his feet and actually coordinated. He just looked awkward last year. He looked like he knew how to control his body tonight.
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
I gotta watch it again
But on the small screen I watched it on, his spins were quick, his hook was soft, and he was soooo much quicker.
He wanted to show us all that he was better, too. I like that.
he had one spin in the third quarter where he just flew baseline. It was B-E-A-yeeewtiful.
He also had a nice possession where he forced the ballhandler to go baseline and commit a turnover. Nice lateral movement to avoid fouling.
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
I thought it said 12 and 12 on the board in the RG
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Dude you have to stop buying those cheap street corner drugs
by southern oregon on Oct 4, 2009 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
what's your 401K then?
The Kings have the best bench I’ve seen. There are easily 14 guys on this team good enough for every bench in the league. Now if we could only get some starters, I’d totally jizz in my pants.
Kings fan
by dyshooter182 on Oct 4, 2009 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions
oh snap
Using terms that I don’t know anything bout.
The Kings have the best bench I’ve seen. There are easily 14 guys on this team good enough for every bench in the league. Now if we could only get some starters, I’d totally jizz in my pants.
Kings fan
by dyshooter182 on Oct 4, 2009 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Nic had as much chance of completing that dunk...
…as I have of winning the Portland Marathon. It was a thing of beauty how quickly GO reacted and how effortlessly he smothered the attempt with both hands. He could have blocked that thing with his left hand while stifling a yawn with his right.
Very soon, Greg’s teammates will give up trying to dunk on him. And before long, the rest of the NBA will follow suit. Guys HATE being snuffed like that.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
Yes, I agree about Oden.
He just looks more balanced on the floor.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
by blzrfan on Oct 4, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I hope that by saying Blake is in mid-season form on the fast break
You mean he sucked as much as usual…..his handle looked pretty suspect to me.
Eight minutes of Blazer highlights from tonight.
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
I let out a sigh of relief when Martell hit that first 3
Anybody know how many threes Trout shot? Seemed like a thousand.
"Goals are good. Plans are better." -Ben.
by Sabonis4Ever on Oct 4, 2009 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm new to the party
Has anybody talked about how Miller faked the crap out of Bayless two or three times with pump fakes?
"Goals are good. Plans are better." -Ben.
by Sabonis4Ever on Oct 4, 2009 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I loved the time when he caught Bayless in the air
and lazily leeeaned into the foul.
What made it funny is that ’Dre must have got faked by Blake like 3-4 times where he was completely up in the air, Blake just strolling past.
"...the primary focus of all obstacles is to induce labor, so progression can be born." - LiL C
So Ian Furness is a radio guy, right?
That’s one thing that really stood out… my goodness, those announcers don’t get how to announce for TV. SHUT UP.
Just from watching the highlights Cab linked to...
They are b.a.d.
"Goals are good. Plans are better." -Ben.
by Sabonis4Ever on Oct 4, 2009 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions
It was horrible. These idiots thought we tuned in to listen to them.
The ONLY solution was to mute the sound, which of course meant missing out on the crowd reaction. What a travesty of a broadcast.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
outlaw shot way too may 3's
he better not get use to it during the season or nate is going to take him out in no time… looks like we are going to trade him anyway. oden looked okay.
Ime looked good and took the threes when they were given to him
Ime looked great imo.
"Goals are good. Plans are better." -Ben.
by Sabonis4Ever on Oct 4, 2009 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope Ime is the 15th roster spot
He is at least an average defender,a 3 point threat and a low maintence guy
by southern oregon on Oct 4, 2009 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Ime, in this game did look fantastic.
As far as standards for him go. He was defending like a hawk. He may be missing a talon or two and be short on feathers but he was aggressive on D and looked good taking most of his shots.
Juwan was another one that surprised me, his passing and hustle were pretty good.
I think it’s pretty obvious Roy took this game extremely lightly. He looked to really make no effort to do anything, then again he knows he’ll be starting. Fine by me.
Outlaw is a decent 3-point shooter
He should shoot lots of 3’s.
Especially when Greg Oden is waiting under the basket
Even if Outlaw misses, there is a good chance that Oden will be able to get rebound.
Per minute?
Or total?
"Goals are good. Plans are better." -Ben.
by Sabonis4Ever on Oct 4, 2009 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions
he already led in percentage last year.
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
Ah, but Greg Oden could still improve on his offensive rebounding percentage.
Y’know, I say Portland should hire Jayson Williams to coach Oden up on that skill. Williams could also teach Oden how to shoot more efficiently—both on and off the court!
All right, that’s enough sarcasm and dark humor from me. At least for now that is …
Stupid people have stupid ideas.
Both!
Even with our slow pace.
Slow and out of shape Oden was a monster on the O-boards, and he stands to improve a lot if he keeps up the effort by being in much better shape. And just plain ol’ experience.
he did it again, last night
LMA had ahold of one of Greg’s arms and Oden gathered the ball with the other. Aldridge got call for the foul, but GO still got the rebound, one-handed!
- is a beast, he’s a glass vacuum that hasn’t been seen since Moses Malone was in his prime
When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
# 52
not sure how that morphed into #52
When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
must be when you start a paragraph, like
- this?
When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
He's a streak shooter
That’s the problem, you never know when he’ll be feeling it.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
things 2 note....
1. Martell and Nic aren’t making it easy for Nate to pick a starting SF, but either way is a win-win (I say stay with Nic because his d is needed on starting sf’s like Lebron, Carmelo, etc. and Martell can run fast breaks with Andre, Rudy and T.O.).
2. Greg looks good with the exception of a couple plays.
3. Almost no D being played so we should not use this to evaluate a lot.
4. Can’t wait for Tuesday……but more importantly for the 27th against houston!
I like Nic for the same reasons
Webster and Rudy have a good thing going, and I think Batum would be more “put off” if he wasn’t the starter. So unless Martell clearly wins the job, give it Nic
When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
from the fanshots.
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
by Cablinasian on Oct 4, 2009 11:28 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
bummer, but thanks for the info
guess I’ll have to just watch those commercial during the Twins-Tigers game.
put a body on 'em
one more Twins game in the dome
I’m from MN and went there for one last game earlier this summer.
Like one of the Twins said: “Not a great place for baseball, but a lot of great baseball has been played there.” Can beat the two WS championships or opponents hating to play there. But an outdoor stadium will be great – the fans deserve it.
put a body on 'em
I remember reading that the Twins will have a conflict with the Vikings
in the Metrodome if they advance to the AL playoffs. Is that why the playoff game is tomorrow night? (because I know the Packers are in town, tonight…)
When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
I liked Martell as #8 better
too many players wear 23.
Early on Roy talked about wanting #3, his college number. At this point I wonder if he’ll ever switch.
put a body on 'em
i hope Roy doesn't switch
we’re all used to Roy wearing number 7 at this point. plus I’d have 2 buy a new Roy jersey
Although Kobe switched
And the Fakers got a whole bunch of $ out of extra jersey sales.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
If Roy did that
It would be to raise money to find a cure for cancer, and then that money he raised WOULD find a cure for cancer at the very last second.
next year will be his 4th year
the team makes the players wait 4 years before getting to change numbers. (I think Juan Dixon was wearing #3 the year Brandon came out of UW…) Unless Ime Udoka’s still around, maybe Roy will switch it up…sure couldn’t hurt the organization, just think of all the new jerseys they’d get to sell!
When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
My thoughts too
To me it shows no creativity and given that it is Martell, I find that surprising.
put a body on 'em
He's still young
Ya wanna be like your idols first, and THEN you want to branch out from under their shadows later on.
Cmon
he chose #8 because Kobe wore it. No offense to Martell or anything, I’m kinda surprised at him wearing #23. He was a big shot scorer in high school.
The Kings have the best bench I’ve seen. There are easily 14 guys on this team good enough for every bench in the league. Now if we could only get some starters, I’d totally jizz in my pants.
Kings fan
by dyshooter182 on Oct 4, 2009 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I like Cunningham in 33
He seems to fit it. And no, I’m not saying he is Pippen . . . .
put a body on 'em
600 comments in not even a presason game thread?
that would a regular season record some places.
by southern oregon on Oct 4, 2009 11:43 PM PDT reply actions
I'm like Zach Efron in high school musical
making me the stud.
The Kings have the best bench I’ve seen. There are easily 14 guys on this team good enough for every bench in the league. Now if we could only get some starters, I’d totally jizz in my pants.
Kings fan
by dyshooter182 on Oct 4, 2009 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Dude we had almost 17k show up for a scrimmage
Blazermania isn’t like being a normal fan, its an obsession bordering on mental illness (but a good mental illness).
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
by skywaker9 on Oct 4, 2009 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The team looked so much sharper than on Ben's scrimmage videos.
Of course having the fans in at the Rose Garden is a big asset ! Some observations:
1) Martell was like BACK, hitting his outside shot, and playing strong- really encouraging.
2) Ime was back too, hitting shots when left open, really looking good, showing why he is good to have on the bench. Patty unfortunately not in position to contest the spot.
3) Greg was as advertrised, smoother, more confident with good reason… just stay healthy and continue, please.
4) Travis’ offense looked good 3s, drives to hoop for dunk and alley oop. No problem for Travis fans.
5) Blake was dropping 3s relentlessly, for the MVP- not handing over the starting role easily. Could be a matter of which unit needs the outside shot most.
6)Cunningham looking very good, athletic, smooth shot.
7) Miller, another laying on the floor assist… is this a standard play for him ?
8) Roy backing off and letting his team mates get the attention. Its not like he needs it, and his position (and contract) are secure. Class.
9) Rudy doing a lot of ball handling, his shot was not dropping too well.. .
10) Batum looking really good, hitting his shots.
11) I was kind of rooting for the second unit, which made LMAs nice shooting a nice problem.
12) Announcer inttroduced Bayless as a “fan favorite”, plenty of applause, almost got him to smile.
Lots of good things happening, very satisfying fan fest.
(couldn't watch, couldn't be there. thanks for the recap)
Same goes for all-y’all.
Rudyculize: The act of Rudy making others look slow, dim and generally oafish.
http://www.myspace.com/y5k
you gotta man with a cam on every rafter, no doubt.
Rudyculize: The act of Rudy making others look slow, dim and generally oafish.
http://www.myspace.com/y5k
by Y5k on Oct 5, 2009 7:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Good comments - agreed from what I saw (most of it)
Ime looked very solid, as did Nic, Martell, Blake and Greg. Andre looked pretty good but it was clear he wasn’t going too hard (same with Roy, Joel, LA sort of). Travis was Travis. I’d say Bayless and Rudy playing point were the least convincing parts for me.
put a body on 'em
I’d say Bayless and Rudy playing point were the least convincing parts for me.
I think it was no coincidence that the black team started getting pounded when Blake was out, and the same thing for the white team, when Miller left the game
When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
OT
On the front page of Yahoo Sport’s NBA page, the heading of an article about the NBA asking players to sit down when on the bench so fans can see over them:
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
funny, my opening night seats are right behind the Houston bench....
Now, I feel like I’ll need to spray some covering fire so the enemy will keep its head down….
by blacknoiseNW on Oct 5, 2009 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Although without Yao there
It’s not quite as fun…
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
The Oregonian has tonight's stats
Pasted below:
Black Team
Nicolas Batum (18 points, 3 assists)
LaMarcus Aldridge (13 points, 10 rebounds, 6 assists)
Joel Przybilla (4 points, 7 rebounds)
Brandon Roy (5 points, 1 assist)
Steve Blake (17 points, 11 assists)
Jerryd Bayless (12 points, 3 steals)
Dante Cunningham (10 points, 4 rebounds)
White Team
Martell Webster (9 points, 1 rebound)
Travis Outlaw (15 points, 7 rebounds)
Greg Oden (12 points, 12 rebounds)
Rudy Fernandez (4 points, 9 assists)
Andre Miller (12 points, 6 rebounds, 5 assists)
Ime Udoka (11 points, 2 rebounds)
Juwan Howard (4 points, 4 assists)
Jarron Collins (3 points, 1 assist)
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
by skywaker9 on Oct 5, 2009 12:01 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Interesting.
Miller’s nice line surprises me a bit…. subtle excellence.
Steve’s line shows why he was MVP, he was motivated.
I really don’t care who starts at point. And a case can be made for either player. Whatever coach says is good, and I trust the two to handle that, no problemo.
The good news...
The Blazers put 149 points on the board. The bad news…. defense allowed 149 points.
got to admit
blake looked pretty good tonight, but most of the team did. We are so deep it’s not even fair. Can’t wait for the season to start…
"No disrespect to Jeff Blake"
by Eat Politicians on Oct 5, 2009 12:07 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
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