Blazersedge Exclusive Video: Greg Oden at Training Camp
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Quick Note: Nic Batum told Blazersedge this afternoon that he would play in tomorrow's Fan Fest, despite an injury to his shoulder that kept him out of scrimmages and some drills at today's practice. Nate McMillan also said he expects Batum to play tomorrow. Batum was laughing with Monty Williams prior to leaving the gym and didn't appear to be in enormous pain. On to Oden...
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Per your 354,345 requests, I shot the following videos of Greg Oden at Training Camp this morning.
As media, we are allowed to see roughly 20-30 minutes of practice a day. Some of that time is scrimmage time, some is shooting time, some is drill work. We are allowed to shoot video from one wall of the gym, hence the people blocking the camera at certain times and the less-than-ideal angle. This is raw scrimmage footage, not a highlight reel. I tried to keep the camera trained on Greg throughout the entire video. The footage is presented in chronological order and spliced together to cut some of the down time. Sorry for the rough cuts.
- Monster Alley oop right out of the gate.
- You can hear Nate McMillan shout "Nice Pass!" when Greg hits an open shooter during the first video.
- After airballing his jump hook he grabs the ball and puts up a few extra attempts to get it right.
- Greg gets the offensive tip in and you can hear the gym get pretty juiced followed by Greg clapping his hands in excitement.
- Greg communicating with his guard on the pick and roll defense, yelling pretty loudly. Doesn't quite play it perfectly as the guard sneaks baseline but Travis plays it worse, leaving Bayless wide open.
- Udoka misses an opportunity to hit Greg with an alley oop pass off the inbound. The whole gym goes "whoooo" as Greg backcuts.
Drill Work
The second video shows Greg Oden working with Assistant Coaches Bill Bayno and Maurice Lucas going through some drill work after practice. For a big, higher quality version click here.
Second Video Notes
- After a 3 hour practice Greg looks visibly tired but still gets in his extra reps.
- The left hand. Whoa.
- You get the feeling Greg has gone through these reps thousands of time over the summer, don't you?
Alright, there you have it. The longest look at this year's Greg Oden that's been available to date. What do you think? Vote in the poll and leave your own observations in the comments.
PS Here's a link to the official Blazersedge Youtube channel. I'll be adding videos from time to time throughout the season. Feel free to add Blazersedge as a contact, etc.
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really hard to tell in these videos because the players are already so tired by the time the media gets to see em
greg’s hooks (especially the running hook) are still coming off as like a shot put instead of a “flick” with arc. He def showed soft touch at all ranges but I would hope he could get a higher release point and use his wrist more on the delivery. The coaches don’t really seem to be giving much direction out there (obviously this is a pretty casual) besides setting up the next exercise, it would have been nice to see greg be able to display how well he uses his body in a lot of these shots. you don’t really need a perfect hook shot when you’re body provides the necessary space to get it off.
he’s certainly mobile but I’m not sure his pivot or fakes would be throwing off a defender (again, he’s prob going like half speed) with what is shown. Theres just so much more I want to see! I’m certainly not impressed with any of this but I’m not “underwhelmed” either. hope to see more at the fanfest tomorrow!
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by chrischa on Oct 3, 2009 7:13 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
meh
"No disrespect to Jeff Blake"
by Eat Politicians on Oct 3, 2009 7:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Rex got a jumper?
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by Starvin' Marvin on Oct 3, 2009 7:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
definately most impressed w/ Bayless in these vids
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by dukedee on Oct 3, 2009 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm impressed as well...
He knocked down a couple of jumpers in the video. Apparently he can make those shots outside of 1 on 0 drill time…
Then, Bayless was there in the drill video again. I sincerely hope that we can find this kid some playing time. He’s making the commitment (again) to try to develop into what we want him to be. We need to give him a chance to prove himself.
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by Jeremiah S on Oct 3, 2009 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus
He is hanging around watching Greg practice…..obviously knows who to hitch his bandwagon to.
Honestly though, how good would Rex have to be in preseason to even get a sniff of shared backup point minutes? Might get 10 minutes a game in tandem with Rudy (Jerryd brings it up, Rudy is the playmaker) but thats about all I see.
Hypothetically if we hadn’t have signed Miller and Jerryd was hitting three’s, defending the point reasonably and playing well off the ball – how excited would a large percentage of Blazer fans be?? The opportunity just isn’t there no matter how well he plays
This makes me sad.
by MadBlaze on Oct 4, 2009 2:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Bayless becomes the best defender of our three point guards and can hit his shots,,,,,
…..there is a real chance that Blake will be gone by the trading deadline.
Of coarse this presumes that Miller is a good fir with Roy and the first unit. Martell is knocking down threes, and Rudy is showing that he can help share the playmaking responsibilities for the second unit.
by upper left corner on Oct 4, 2009 7:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The biggest positive I saw in that video was conditioning. He was handling the workout, even after three hours of scrimmaging. Think of how hard it is to shoot after a really intense pickup game…. now play against NBA-caliber players for three hours and then start shooting around. If he can stay in this kind of shape, we already have a better Greg Oden, even without looking at the improved touch he displayed.
Bring on the fanfest.
Thanks for the footage, Ben. Great work as always.
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by Cablinasian on Oct 3, 2009 7:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Great work! Thanks, Ben.
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by bforsythe on Oct 3, 2009 7:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Ben
You should interview those sweat wiper uppers and ask them if they ever want to make it to be a sweat wiper upper for a real game.
It’s hard to just watch Oden, I’m used to watching the ball.
by tominhawaii on Oct 3, 2009 7:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ben...this footage and your coverage is great!
Thank you so much for all that you do for us! This stuff is fantastic
by jstbeachy on Oct 3, 2009 7:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
underwelmed
Thank you very much for the video by the way.
I’m sorry, I just don’t see the significant improvement that everyone is raving about. The good news is I am glad he is working on his jump hook and jump shot. The bad news is the way he is practicing, it isn’t doing much good. When you have a 6’ assistant coach half guarding him in practice, it is a waste of time. Oden is basically learning poor shooting technique, the release on his shots are at forehead height, and anyone can block it.
The only way to practice effectively, is to imitate game conditions. Put Pryz guarding him, pushing him out of the key, and then Oden will get better offensively during the games.
by blazerbill on Oct 3, 2009 7:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You know what's funny to me?
I’ve watched these vids a couple times now, and I can’t say that there’s anybody out there that looks like a world-beater. In those clips, I can’t say anyone looked especially “good”. Maybe brandon with that 3 over greg? Bayless was definitely bringing it in those clips. Maybe steve blake? If we’re gradin’ him on the curve with the rest of the guys in that clip, he looked pretty good to me.
It was the end of a long practice with a scrimmage. Greg didn’t look winded. He didn’t look behind on plays. He looked comfortable with the ball in the post. Smoother. He was talking. He was gettin’ pumped up.
by Montavilla Steve on Oct 3, 2009 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is a GREAT point
if we showed the video to someone who knows basketball but didn’t know the people in the video (it’s just a hypothetical) I doubt they would be impressed. I saw a lot of bricks and bad plays. Greg’s conditioning is the biggest take home message here.
by Magnum on Oct 3, 2009 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep. No one looked good.
Maybe they were just tired at that point.
Roy, Aldridge, Oden, Rudy, Batum, Outlaw, Webster, Bayless, Blake, Miller, Joel... Holy crap!
by axel360 on Oct 3, 2009 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
one word. "conditioning"
thats what i really wanted to see. the conditioning… he ran up and down looking good. bad screen on one play but again, we only get to see a few minutes of him playing…. I cant wait for fanfest and really get a good half hour or so to see what he brings.
by asimms21 on Oct 4, 2009 1:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The conditioning is clearly better
and that is what we wanted to see from Greg. We know he can at the very least be an imposing rebounder, defensive stopper and requires a big body on him on the other end or he will just power over a smaller defender. The knock on him has been injuries and condtioning, he looks both healthy and to be in at least as good of shape as JPryz who is always in tip top shape. Speaking of Joel don’t forget that his defense is stifling and that he is trying to hold onto his starting position so you know he is not pulling punches. JP is bringing it at Oden everyday. If he was playing against a standard backup center he might look even more impressive.
by The Natural ala Mode on Oct 4, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
relax
Greg willbe fine, and I trust the coaches know what they are doing working him out the way they are CHOOSING to do so…
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by PDXBuckeye on Oct 3, 2009 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah...
After practice, players do not work full speed on jumpers or hooks. At some point, you have to minimize wear and tear. Going full speed 8 hours a day is not wise. In both this video and the shooting video of Bayless, the players were working specifically on touch. It’s okay to shoot at a low release point on jumpers and hook shots as long as you are not focusing on your release point. All Greg is doing here is maintaining his feel for the shot.
by PoliSam on Oct 3, 2009 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They need to replace that bald white ref who's wearing black penny loafers with white socks....
Things I noticed:
1. Jay Jensen was rocking the same style….
2. Rex is balding from the stress
3. Pryz didn’t go anywhere sunny in the summer
4. Rudy must hate guarding BRoy during practce.
5. Oden looks better conditioned
by broyposse on Oct 3, 2009 7:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Baykless was balding in Summer League last year
Might not be the stress.
Might be male pattern baldness
But what is the over/under on years before he shaves his head?
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by lee3022 on Oct 3, 2009 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm thirsty
I'm a little confused by your tactics
by oderiferous emanations 74 on Oct 3, 2009 8:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, Ben. Does that videocam have a zoom feature?
by MiledAnimal on Oct 3, 2009 8:18 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Whoa, Capt. Spaceman, asking if a camera can zoom in
Sorry we’re not in the year 2197 like you are, with your zoomable cameras.
Geez.
Morty
by Mortimer on Oct 4, 2009 12:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can always put a telescope in front of camera´s lens.
A Huble replica would be enough.
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by amlmart1 on Oct 4, 2009 3:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is a beautiful poem you have as your new signature line
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by BlazersOrBust on Oct 4, 2009 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Keeping my Spanishness ;)
Anoche cuando dormía
soñé, ¡bendita ilusiòn!,
que una colmena tenía
dentro de mi corazòn;
y las doradas abejas
iban fabricando en él,
con las amarguras viejas,
blanca cera y dulce miel.
Antonio Machado.
by amlmart1 on Oct 4, 2009 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's a poem for you funny guys:
Clowns to the left of me
Jokers to the right
Here I am, stuck in Blazersedge with you.
by MiledAnimal on Oct 4, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You stole that from Britney Spears
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by Eat Politicians on Oct 4, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks Ben
we appreciate all the hard work, and the fact that when you get 354,345 requests for one piece of info/video that you give us all what we want. You’re the best sir!
by SalemORguy on Oct 3, 2009 8:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
Thank you a ton Ben. I know that I was clamoring a bit for some prolonged practice video, and this is definitely what I was after. Just don’t post stuff like this too often, I need to do my homework sometime, mmmkay? ;)
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by Jeremiah S on Oct 3, 2009 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is just unacceptable.
Greg is not walking on water and he’s not turning water into wine. What’s up with that?
The thing I noticed the most is how smoothly and easily Greg gets up and down the court. He doesn’t run like a man that’s carrying that much weight. Thanks for feeding our hunger and giving us a sip of water in this desert, Ben. You’re doing a fantastic job.
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by annthefan on Oct 3, 2009 8:33 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
I completely agree. He didn’t look lost in the flow. He looked very smooth and I’m content with what I saw.
I wish I spent more time playing catch with you and less time training my body and mind to kill you...
by 1badbadger on Oct 3, 2009 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's like seeing a brand new sports car almost ready to roll off the assembly line
I’m talking about the shooting drills. These are moves that are newly minted—not field tested and polished yet, but almost there. We’re going to be seeing these moves and variations off these moves for the next decade, guys. With the baby jumper (not shown) and the back-you-down-and-dunk-on-you to set them up, they WILL work. This is the ground floor of a skyscraper we’re watching being erected. GO clearly has the tools, and he has the work ethic. That skyscraper is gonna get built, and it’s going to be beautiful.
(OK, now I’ve compared GO’s offensive game to a prototype sportscar and to the foundation of a skyscraper…)
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by hurryup09 on Oct 3, 2009 8:43 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Excellent videos considering the placement limitations
Some observations.
Greg is running smoother and with more energy. I did not see him holding his shorts.
Greg is moving laterally better and dealing with the pick and roll much better.
Although we were watching Greg I was surprised at the height that Martell is jumping – on one shot in the first minute he jumped so high on a jumper that at first I thought it was Outlaw. Than in the next minute Outlaw took a jumper from nearly the same spot and Martell’s head at apex was maybe 2" higher than Travis’ head at apex! He looks improved from the beginning of last year before the injury.
Greg did not get owned by Przybilla but got off some good shots. He is clearly working on what he has been learning.
In the workout video I thought working on the across the court hook right to left might be significant since LMA nearly always uses the same shot left to right and closer in than Greg. Could we see LMA owning the left block and Greg owning the right block in games? And can you imagine a play where Gerg beats his man with that move and LMA’s man must cover leaving LMA with a short dump-off moving in the opposite direction?
I was puzzled why Bill Bayno does not use pads to simulate the length of a normal defender?
These are nice progress videos. I hope the progression continues and he becomes polished with them.
Thanks Ben. It must not be much fun filming the whole window on one player but now the league knows and can see what is coming and so can we BEdgers. Once again you scoop the media.
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by lee3022 on Oct 3, 2009 8:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Wanna talk bad placement?
That pillar at midcourt. Thats some horrendous placement.
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by Jeremiah S on Oct 3, 2009 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
RE left and right block
I remember looking at their hot spots, and I forget which side was which, but Oden’s MUCH better side was the opposite of LMA’s MUCH better side, which I thought was nice.
I do think it was LMA was great on the left, and Oden on the right. Especially for Oden, it was a huge difference.
Morty
by Mortimer on Oct 4, 2009 12:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You Tube
Ben what are you trying to do Blow Up You Tube like Susan Boyle. It is like having to wait 3 years for Christmas (GO) . Greg looks like a basketball player not some 7 ft guy on a basketball court.
Thanks for wetting our appetite. MORE MORE MORE!
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by NOWINE on Oct 3, 2009 8:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Love the conditioning
Do NOT like the release point on those hooks, Nate Robinson could block those. Granted he’s tired but that’s when when you learn to shoot, you’re always tired in the middle of a game. (Like free throws, they must be practiced when exhausted).
Great to see progress though, the touch and conditioning are certainly improved.
by kobisportsguy on Oct 3, 2009 9:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
and where's the arc?
like many tall guys, it looks like a long slam, straight across and down to the hoop. Let it arc right over your man, Greg.
trust all is well
by retrofuture on Oct 5, 2009 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know what else the bandwagon fans want out of Greg. They think he is suppose to never miss a shot.
The guy averaged nearly 10 points a game of like 4 shots a game. Stop complaining. You can’t do any better. Greg could shoot 10 shots a game and get 15 a game, but then you’d be crying that Brandon isn’t getting more shots.
by BRoyInThe4th on Oct 3, 2009 9:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Two non-greg things I noticed in the first vid
First: I was impressed with Steve Blake’s floater in the lane over Oden. That would be a deadly weapon to have in an offensive arsenal.
Second: I didn’t like the way Rudy made his move before Greg came up and fully set the pick. This was compounded by Greg trying to set the pick anyway. Both players in this situation need to improve their decision making. Those are the kinds of stupid fouls that Greg can’t afford to pick up.
by Magnum on Oct 3, 2009 9:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That's the Euro way
They ALWAYS move before the pick is set since in Eurolandia no one calls a moving pick.
Sergio did it every damn time and it made me want to stomp my feet and throw a hissy fit. AND SO I DID.
Rudy is usually better about it and rubs his man off the pick, but it’s a common “Euro” thing to do…
M—
by Mortimer on Oct 4, 2009 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
M--- = racist
admit it… You hate euros. FFA is not gonna be happy when she reads this morty…..
by Rudiculous on Oct 4, 2009 2:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The biggest positive is Oden's attitude.
last year he looked like he was sulking and feeling like he had the weight of the world on his shoulders. not this year. he looks happier and more loose
Roy, Aldridge, Oden, Rudy, Batum, Outlaw, Webster, Bayless, Blake, Miller, Joel... Holy crap!
by axel360 on Oct 3, 2009 9:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Great work as always, Ben.
It’s great to get a peek at Greg before Fan Fest tomorrow.
by Roybot on Oct 3, 2009 10:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks so much.
A fun look at the team. It is definitely a deep roster. I love seeing Bayless stroke the outside jumpers.
Greg definitely looks improved. There were spurts where he played well last year, but what I see is fewer awkward plays and moments.
by PoliSam on Oct 3, 2009 10:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Very interesting to see Rudy and Greg run the pick and roll
This fits with the idea of using Rudy to create more. Yes, their timing was off .. Rudy didn’t wait and Greg wasn’t snappy coming up. But I wouldn’t worry about their timing this early. This is what training camp is for.
Still, this play is different from last year and it’s nice to see them do this. Since Rudy’s a great passer and Greg is dangerous near the basket, the Rudy-Greg pick and roll might become a real weapon.
And like others have said, it’s great watching Greg’s level of enthusiasm.
by jayfisher on Oct 3, 2009 10:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I am probably just really dumb, but, where's the monster oop mentioned in ben's post?
Whatever
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by TheTinfoil on Oct 3, 2009 11:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ok yay, finally get to watch...
Hmm… we should be happy by this. Look at how he is RUNNING. And this is towards the end of practice, no?
I’ve said time and time again almost all of his basic problems will be solved by being in shape. He appears to be in good shape. The easy dunks, the hook, the rebounding, all will be so much better if he just isn’t TIRED. He won’t foul as much, he’ll react quicker, he’ll be on the damn court.
And if he is on the court, he’ll be good.
So right away, I’m halfway through, I am excited because he is RUNNING. The Oden-shuffle that looked like Shaggy running away from a ghost isn’t there anymore. Huge news. Can’t be understated. Everything else will come in time, conditioning is key number one.
Like when the ball is stolen from his team and Blake leads a break… he sprints back past everyone and manages to steal the ball (or gets it after someone else deflected it, it’s hard to see). He wouldn’t have been able to do that last year after several minutes of up and down play.
It’s so simple and maybe most of us didn’t notice it because we take it for granted (he’s a NBA player, why make a big deal with how he is getting up and down the court?), but his conditioning was so bad last year and it affected him so much. It’s a big deal.
Ok, the drills…
Running left hook looks great. I think the right turnaround hook looks fine too and is obviously working on touch. It’s not a sky-hook, but it’s a controlled soft hook which is better than Shaq or Dwight’s line drive hook.
Kinda reminds me of Jamison’s. As long as it goes in… and it’s soft, which matters a lot.
Right running hook looks great too. The running hooks look better than the simple turnaround ones, which is great because if ya get it down it’s almost unguardable. LMA does a great job with his running hook, and Oden is able to get much better position than LMA really easily. He’ll be 4 feet from the basket and able to go to the running hook every time.
Once teams realize he can do that they’ll send a defender to meet him in the middle of the key to disrupt him like the Rockets started to do to LMA, but we’ll deal with that then. Not all teams/defenders are smart enough to do that, and the turnaround counter move will come around in time, if he doesn’t already have it.
He can clearly score in close with either hand.
Ok, watching the jab steps in the drills, I notice something else related to conditioning— he’s much lighter on his feet. He is moving his feet much faster in these drills than he was in actual games last year, and I am imagining this isn’t full speed right here because he is just working on the foot work and touch. So, that’s big too.
Well, I liked what I saw. He is in shape, and the rest will come in time. Thanks for shooting this video Ben, you’re good peoples.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Oct 4, 2009 12:47 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
nice comparison with jamison…. was thinking the same thing!
by asimms21 on Oct 4, 2009 1:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If teams meet him in the middle
one of the Posters above said pass to LMA on the other block. or pass to the open man.
Question, If we had a double post, which side is the weak side? is it the side the 2 is not or is it the side that the three is not, or is it both?
hg
by BBK on Oct 4, 2009 7:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t really like his running hooks, they looked a bit timid and at times like he traveled. The soft touch with his left hand when he turned was nice. When he can score that with either hand it will be tough to guard him.
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by Norsktroll on Oct 4, 2009 5:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm, I don't THINK he traveled
And I think if you see timidness it’s just because there is no defender, so obviously he could just charge ahead and dunk it while moving to his right or left, and doesn’t because the point of the drill is to work on the soft running hook.
I thought it looked like LMA’s.
We won’t know if it is timid, or just the drill, or what until we see it in a game against a live defender. I think it looked good from what we saw.
Morty
by Mortimer on Oct 4, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't even know he could dribble
Everything is impressive to me. Even last year was impressive to me. I could tell he was trying,. it was like taking a final without really studying for it. You just guess and hope its close to being right. and if you take to much time studying the question you end up way behind.
hg
by BBK on Oct 4, 2009 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he can actually
dribble with two balls at once. Did it before the injury.
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by ratbastird on Oct 5, 2009 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amen re/ the primacy of conditioning
Have you every tried to play full-court hoops with a surgical knee while out of shape? I have, and it was incredibly frustrating. The guys I was playing with weren’t particularly good, and back in the day I’d have done plenty of damage. But after about 5 minutes of this game, I was helpless. I was sucking wind and my legs were all rubbery. I was reduced to reaching at guys as they went by me. I knew what to do; my body just wouldn’t do it.
But here’s my point: because of that experience, I absolutely recognized what was going on with Greg Oden last season. Between not trusting his knee and being out of shape, he was helpless much of the time on the court, and that was incredibly frustrating and embarrassing to him. But unlike me, he couldn’t just walk out of the gym and go home. He had to stay out on the court and take his lumps night after night—then go home and read about what a bust he was. And folks wondered why he was depressed!
Like Mort sez: while it’s nice to see that GO has been working on his offensive moves this off-season (and they show plenty of promise), the BIG thing is that he’s clearly in much better shape now. That’s going to make the difference between night & day in his performance—and the Blazers’.
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by hurryup09 on Oct 4, 2009 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
six minutes of bliss just watching them play
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by Honka Playboy on Oct 4, 2009 1:42 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Greg is obviously in better shape
I’m not blown away by what he was doing on the court or in the drills. This is stuff I assume he was practicing last year too, and most players can hit undefended practice shots. Being in good shape and light on his feet will pay off for sure though. The truth is, we don’t need him to be the most dominant center in the NBA to help the team. If he becomes one of the best, it will help the team a lot, but with this group of players, we only really need him to be an effective, better than average, role player at his position. We don’t need Shaq-like scoring from him, but if he can average a double double (which he is capable of if not sucking wind), we would be more than set with all our other weapons.
It was fun to see the guys playing, thanks Ben. Roy looked like the head of the class as you’d expect, and Blake’s floater in the lane was the thing he needed to add to his game this summer. I would have liked to see more Martel action, maybe that could be the next group of vids?
by wingzeta on Oct 4, 2009 2:23 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
that earns a meh for me...
I am not “underwhelmed” by anymeans, but I need to see some real action before I start rocking the GREG ODEN song and dance….
Sure is a nice step though…
by Rudiculous on Oct 4, 2009 3:01 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
yep
Looks good, but until I see the real deal…meh
"No disrespect to Jeff Blake"
by Eat Politicians on Oct 4, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just compare this with ...
Anoche cuando dormía
soñé, ¡bendita ilusiòn!,
que una colmena tenía
dentro de mi corazòn;
y las doradas abejas
iban fabricando en él,
con las amarguras viejas,
blanca cera y dulce miel.
Antonio Machado.
by amlmart1 on Oct 4, 2009 4:06 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That man should be resting and healing, not running and jumping.
Scratch the Celtics from your list of playoff contenders this year.
by MiledAnimal on Oct 4, 2009 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it too early to say Garnett is done as a defensive force?
I could have sacrificed goin' out
To think my homies who did it, I used to joke about
From now on I'ma use self control instead of birth control
Cause $315 ain't worth your soul
$315 ain't worth your soul
$315 ain't worth it
by The Pirate on Oct 5, 2009 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reading comments of his form of shooting.
Form is great, if it means more buckets, but if the BB is going in as many times as his was and are not getting blocked then form isn’t that important. He should not be graded on his grace or his technique, just his BB skills and physical and mental fitness.
Of course I am not a BB whiz, but if he gets the job done on D and O. then I don’t care what he looks like. Maybe it is white men can’t jump and big men can’t dance LOL.
hg
by BBK on Oct 4, 2009 7:36 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Forgot to add.
It is just great being able to view the video of practice, I am Thankful of that Ben.
hg
by BBK on Oct 4, 2009 7:44 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
now...........
lets see if greg can do that against nba players and not a fat little old man/ghost.
I got high hopes for him these season
by blazermania92983 on Oct 4, 2009 7:49 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks so much for the video post Ben,
I’m stuck in Idaho until Jan. No 95.5, Courtside or anything besides Boise Broncos. Its so nice to see the blazers again. Especially Blazer on Blazer action in HD :) Wish I could be there for fanfest.
It's Brandon Roy's world and we're only renting space We don’t like him—we’re only on his side so he doesn’t dunk on us in front of our co-workers, wives, girlfriends, mistresses and children.
-Correction It’s B Rex’s world and Brandon’s just keeping it warm until The Coming
by OhOhOden
by SandyTrailBlazer on Oct 4, 2009 10:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Anyone know if Fanfest can be seen anywhere on the internet?
It's Brandon Roy's world and we're only renting space We don’t like him—we’re only on his side so he doesn’t dunk on us in front of our co-workers, wives, girlfriends, mistresses and children.
-Correction It’s B Rex’s world and Brandon’s just keeping it warm until The Coming
by OhOhOden
by SandyTrailBlazer on Oct 4, 2009 10:52 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks so much, Ben! This is awesome.
I think he looks Average, in terms of basketball skills, but that is a vast improvement. I expect him to get better quickly, so I’m not at all disappointed! Just can’t wait for the season to start…
by fart on Oct 4, 2009 11:48 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
just wanted to say "thanks!"
much appreciated
Bring back the Uncle Cliffy!
by hawkblogger on Oct 4, 2009 4:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Ben
My thoughts:
Greg is no longer lumbering and cumbersome. Last year he looked like a boy that didn’t belong on the court. I know he did some great things for us, but he just didn’t look like he belonged.
This year, he still looks like a kid on the court but now he has talent and can move. He’s limp wristed and, to me, still unsure of his place. I don’t sense intense focus and purpose yet in the variety of “this is my space, I rule here, enter at your own risk.” That will come in time. His shot still seems a bit raw in that it should be a little easier, but he also has a variety which he didn’t last year. He also has a nice quick jump which he did NOT have last year.
I love this video because I had two visions in my head based on the typed reports and this clarifies that he’s improved, but he’s not all star level yet. You can see the talent is there and he will be, but he still has a lot of improvement he can make.
I believe Joel will be the starter. He still looks like the better basketball player in terms of movement and position.
Overall, I believe this is almost the oden that we’d have seen if he hadn’t been injured. I’m glad to have him.
On non-Oden notes. The Blazers looked like they were playing incredibly fast. I saw a break down on defenses, but part of that was also excellent play on offense. I love it. These team looks like they’re in a rhythm.
For the first time in YEARS it looks like they’re going to be starting the season with the core group intact and the innate awareness of who does what and where they’ll be when doing it. So many years we’ve had issues starting the season due to an entirely new team playing together (last year was Rudy, no WEbster, Batuum, Greg, Bayless… all new people on the court together). I think the stability of this year will pay huge dividends. We have new pieces, but they’re not key pieces nor are they inexperienced.
"Fernandez, to my eyes, is the Blazer who walks that walk most comfortably. A lot of Portland's fans (egged on, dare I say, by their local broadcasters) lament things like how Ron Artest or Yao Ming get to hit Brandon Roy's arms.
But I suspect Fernandez sees all that and thinks: We get to hit arms! Cool!"
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-39-135/On-Playoff-Experience.html
"I told Pau the Lakers never win here in Portland; I think it's great." -- Rudy Fernandez
by ratbastird on Oct 5, 2009 9:06 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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