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Game 1 Recap: Blazers 96, Rockets 87

No.  Try it again against Golden State tomorrow.

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No. Try it again against Golden State tomorrow.

One down, 81 to go.

General Observations

This game was decent by opening night standards.  The Blazers were sloppy, somewhat inconsistent, and seem to get distracted for stretches but they executed the basics on both ends of the court, they kept their heads, and they never came anywhere close to falling apart or even getting rattled.  They looked like a team that was finding itself but they also looked more mature than in years past.  It was the kind of win you'd hope to see on an imperfect night.

The evening began decently enough with Portland relying on LaMarcus Aldridge for early offense while trying to make the Rockets work hard for outside looks on the other end.  LaMarcus came through, scoring 7 points in the first three minutes of the game.  Brandon Roy bolstered him with a couple of buckets off of nice passes from teammates and the offense was rolling.  On the other end the Blazers did a nice job of shutting down the middle but they had to rotate and swing so much that they left the perimeter wide open.  The Rockets took advantage by hitting threes.  When Portland tried to get out and cover those they couldn't recover back to the middle quick enough when the Rockets drove.  Houston didn't get actual buckets off of penetration as much as free throws.  Houston had 12 free throw attempts in the first quarter to go along with their 7 three-point attempts.  Between the two ranges they hit enough shots to stay even with the Blazers.  Neither team was ecstatic with their start but both survived it just fine.

The pivotal moment of the first half came when LaMarcus Aldridge picked up his second foul with 7:30 left in the first quarter.  That's when he came out in favor of Travis Outlaw.  At first this looked like a bad deal for the Blazers, as Aldridge was their main scoring threat to that point.  But Travis went all wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow on everybody as soon as he hit the court.  You could see it in his step as he walked out there and in his early defensive movement.  He looked assured.  And then he started hitting.  And hitting.  And hitting.  These weren't Travis Specials from years past either.  There was little dribbling involved and almost no spinning.  It was catch, step, shoot OR catch, drive, float OR catch, hit that three all night long.  Nobody on Houston's end had an answer for him.  When Andre Miller came in and pushed the pace right on through the second quarter everybody started scoring.  For a while it didn't look fair.  Houston wanted to run but Portland wanted to run A LOT.  The Blazers never sat with the ball and seldom walked it up.  The extra time allowed them to run more cuts and screens, leading to some nice, easy points even when the fast break wasn't producing.  They balanced that by draining multiple threes, stretching the defense and opening up the lane even more.  After being tied at the end of the first quarter Portland found themselves up 13 at the half.  Everybody who had hit the floor outside of the centers had scored a bunch.  It was happy time.

The third quarter saw the Blazers attack the rim even harder.  They eschewed the outside game and generated points in the paint.  They even drew a few foul shots, which was the only part of the arsenal that had been silent (providing Houston a lifeline).  They continued to protect the lane on the other end, daring the Rockets to generate points any other way they could.  Houston ended the quarter down 19 and would fall to the full 20 points behind early in the fourth.

At that point the Blazers let up.  They started walking the ball up, going one-on-one, and letting the Rockets get to balls first.  Defending single players and hustling are two of Houston's strong points this year.  The Rockets kept chipping away at the lead and the Blazers failed to respond consistently.  Houston cut the lead to 9 with seven minutes to go before Andre Miller stepped in and hit a couple of nice shots, one an open three.  Everyone figured the game was in the bag at that point but again the Rockets refused to fold.  They trimmed the margin to 6 with two minutes left but at that point everything had to go right for them.  Brandon Roy, Travis Outlaw, Steve Blake, and Greg Oden scoring wasn't right for them.  Even with the let up the Blazers ended up with a 9-point victory.

Several things looked good on the Portland side of the ledger tonight.  Chief among those was the rebounding.  Houston can bang and board but the Blazers obliterated them, finishing with a 51-33 edge.  Portland also patrolled the middle with intensity.  The Rockets never got uncontested shots close to the basket unless they were on a flat-out break.  And they didn't even get that many of those.  The offense looked good on the run and when the ball was moving.  The Blazers looked like they knew each other and they played unselfishly.  You didn't see very many forced shots nor did it look like Houston could contain the Blazers to a certain area or type of shot.  As mentioned above, cuts through the lane were pretty.  Portland also set picks and used them pretty well, especially when compared to years past.  The offense as a whole looked more professional as well as coming easier to the players.  Everybody seemed to have confidence in everybody else.  Obviously the team depended on Brandon and LaMarcus more than anybody else but it didn't look like it was a stars-or-bust affair.  In fact the bench players carried the night for much of the game.  The Blazers made their second unit count...working around Houston's defensive strong points and wearing them down.  Finally I'll mention again the complete lack of panic, desperation, or rattling.  Composure was the order of the night.

On the other hand, some things raised concerns...or at least left unanswered questions.  Much of the masterful paint defense came down to the centers.  This is certainly part of the Portland game plan and has been for some time.  But let's face it...the big guys had a night off against the Houston centers and had defensive attention to spare.  The individual defense on the perimeter wasn't consistent and the Blazers never were able to stop the ball moving or contain the dribble for long.  If that doesn't change more accomplished offensive teams are going to bring us woe.  In general, and especially in the early part of the game, Portland seemed content to start their plays outside.  It looked like everything from the post to the perimeter would be more effective if started 3-5 feet closer to the hoop.  But few of the Blazers were able to muscle into position.  Until the game neared its conclusion and Brandon Roy started driving the Blazers lacked strong finishes around the hoop.  Yes there were a couple dunks but in general aggression at the rim was lacking.  This also contributed to the relatively low foul rate compared to decent shots generated.  And, of course, Game 1 is a little too early to be assuming wins after three quarters, even for a good team.  That's not likely to be repeated, but it does show how composure can sometimes slip into complacency.

This was a nice shakedown cruise for the team.  Most things worked well.  Whatever bugs showed up can be worked out.  There's no reason for overconfidence and even less for disappointment.  It was right down the middle which is just where this team needs to be right now.  You don't want to stumble out of the gate but you can't complete an entire season on October 27th either.

Individual Notes

Brandon Roy had a 5-18 shooting night but he was also the only Blazer scoring from the foul line, hitting 10-11.  It wasn't the perfect game for him but he didn't overcompensate either.  He played solidly within the team framework for the early part of the game, asserting himself only to provide some scoring support for LaMarcus.  Later in the game he took over the ball more and drove hard.  That's mostly what you want to see out of your star.

LaMarcus Aldridge seemed to relish the early scoring role and owned his matchup until fouls took him to the bench.  He's the spike that the Blazers are going to try to hammer in to crack the opponent's façade.  After that his teammates will exploit those cracks.  It's a good enough battle plan and he's more than capable.  He shot 5-10 on the night for 11 points.  He started grabbing some rebounds late and ended up with 6.  He also had 4 turnovers but it's not like he was killing the team with them.  He played only 24 minutes.

Travis Outlaw was the superstar of the evening.  The Rockets just didn't know what to do with his compact, efficient, yet deadly-athletic offense.  He ended up 9-14 for 23 points in 33 minutes.  He also played some decent defense, grabbed 4 rebounds, and notched 2 assists, 2 steals, and a block.

One of the big questions of the evening was how well Greg Oden would do.  It depends on which end of the court you were watching.  He really played a controlled (and controlling) game defensively.  He looks so much lighter on his feet than he did last year.  He's quicker to jump and quicker moving sideways.  His arms and feet are moving but poised.  That increased mobility makes him look a ton more experienced, as he's able to hit his spots on time.  He earned 5 fouls in 26 minutes but only one of them was a head-scratcher.  He intimidated the Rockets with 5 blocks.  The was also a Hoover on the boards.  Anything he was near he grabbed, finishing with 8 defensive rebounds and 12 total.  His offense was timid, however.  On the good side he set some strong picks, which is great to see.  On the other hand he's still not accomplished at getting position in the post.  He's setting up farther out than he needs to and it leads to harder shots than he should be taking.  When he did really grind down low he was never able to stand still long enough to make a pass possible.  All night he was radiating that "don't pass it to me, please" vibe, which is not what you want to see out of your low post trigger guy.  When he did receive the ball he got it stripped as often as he got a shot up.  He ended up with 7 turnovers on the night.  Not all of them were in post situations but enough were.  He scored 2 points on a dunk off of an offensive rebound.  There's little doubt he was a net positive for the team, though.  They didn't need his missing offense but they sure prospered from his lane patrol.  They'll take 12 boards and 5 blocks any night.

Martell Webster looked pretty good tonight.  You could tell he was shaky at the start of the game, but he had the wisdom not to do too much.  He played respectable defense, made a couple nice passes, and hit the three when he was open.  In fact he hit a couple shots that Nicolas Batum would not have been able to make in his place.  He looked smarter than the Martell we remember from years back.  He doesn't look like he's going to hurt you a bit and his shooting can sure help.  14 points on 4-7 shooting, 4-4 from the free throw line, 2-4 from the arc, 3 manly rebounds, 2 assists, 2 steals, a block, and a couple turnovers.  Welcome back, Martell!

You can pretty much ignore Andre Miller's 3-11 shooting night.  Two of those three shots stifled the Houston run in the fourth quarter.  The misses didn't matter as much as the way he pushed the pace and found his teammates diving down the lane.  He made a couple of Tivo passes tonight...as in, "Rewind it so I can see how that happened!"  He was the second-unit catalyst, affecting the game almost as much as Outlaw but in a different way.  9 points, 7 assists, 4 rebounds in 26 minutes.

Steve Blake had a good night with the set-up three, hitting 2-5 from distance to earn 7 points overall.  He also had 3 rebounds, 2 assists, and a steal.  But when he wasn't draining it his game looked pedestrian.  You know Blake well enough not to judge based on a single outing but on the other hand you also know that once he puts the ball on the floor his part of the possession is essentially done.  Blake got some time with Miller as well as Roy.  I wonder how long that will last.

Joel Przybilla spent 16 minutes cleaning up after Oden.  He did a good job in the interior and snagged 10 rebounds and 2 blocks.  (That's 22 rebounds and 7 blocks for our center tandem if you're counting.)  He had some trouble catching the ball and collected 6 fouls, but what the hey.  Like Oden, his defensive work more than compensated for brief moments of consternation elsewhere.

Rudy Fernandez looked rusty but managed a nice 8 points on 2-3 shooting from distance (quick-draw style too)  and added 4 rebounds, 2 assists, a steal, and a block.  He looked pretty much like the Rudy you expect:  a little out of position on defense, a serious knack for being in the right position on offense, a couple of inspired plays plus one or two that should have been more basic.  Between him and Webster, though, the shooting was deadly.  Teams are going to have a hard time covering them while still watching the main guys.  Rudy tried bringing the ball up the court and setting the offense a couple times to mixed results.  It's early though.  You could tell he hadn't seen time in the pre-season.

Final Thoughts

You expected the Blazers to win this game.  They should be able to win again Saturday in Houston but I am curious to see if they actually will.  Games like that are going to be the test of the season.

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Don't forget to read the other side of the story at TheDreamShake.  And don't forget Ben's report from press row is forthcoming.

--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)

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Travis was awesome.

My team went to the playoffs in my first year.

by pxilpooshr on Oct 27, 2009 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes!

The whole game, I was thinking of the people who were hating Outlaw all summer. It looks like he came back better and more multidimensional. He was even rebounding and blocking. Awesome game.

by Kaboomm on Oct 28, 2009 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Workmanlike" win

They didn’t play that well tonight, but still never seemed in much danger of losing. I loved Greg’s work on the defensive end, didn’t love the turnovers. He’s going to be much better on most nights.

I wish I had a highlight clip of Martell’s dunk.

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by jetcity on Oct 27, 2009 11:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Ask and you shall receive

NBA Dunk of the Night

"My shoulder is OK. And away we go." -- Nic Batum
"wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow" -- Dave

by DonkeyShins on Oct 28, 2009 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sweet.

“Welcome back Martell”

I am an oasis of Blazer fandom in a bleak desert of Laker fans.

by RenoBlazerFan on Oct 28, 2009 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

obscure reference to the Sweat Hogs in Welcome Back Kotter

Blazers win!

by The X-man on Oct 28, 2009 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Trade Outlaw? Yeah, right!

Despite Travis’ shortcomings, you’ve got to admit he can be a beast on offense, like he was tonight. He’s one of my favorite players on the team, and he is definitely entertaining to watch.

by Bib Fortuna on Oct 27, 2009 11:09 PM PDT reply actions   3 recs

Agreed, us Travis fans know that potential is in there,

he can be a game winner. Considering his bench role, he doesn’t have to be the consistent one. When he is “on”, he’s a gas. I don’t know why he has been inconsistent, why he was weak in the playoffs. But I always believe that Travis the destroyer is in there somewhere, and I love when it happens. I like the OTHER teams censored commentary when he is hot. That, combined with his close relationship with his team mates, the fact that he is not an egotistical jerk, his ‘aw shucks’ southern charm makes plenty of fans. I’ve got better things to do than fight with every Travis critic, some of whom are reasonable, some of whom seem to be on some kind of personal vendetta far out of proportion to his liability. As they say in any investment, “past performance does not guarantee future performance”. I’m glad the team continues to keep Travis in their “portfolio”. I think his upside is worth it.
Nice game Travis.

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by Berkeley on Oct 28, 2009 12:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice

"The match in Los Angeles is a good opportunity to begin to demonstrate that we want to make war." Rudy Fernández (translated)

by G_dubs on Oct 28, 2009 3:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Dave

A win is indeed a win, and that’s the big thing. Andre Miller running the team in the second quarter was thing of beauty, and Travis balled out of his mind. Defensively, GO and Pryz showed why they are the best tandem at the center position in the NBA on that end. LMA was off to a great start offensively, but the foul trouble really put a damper on his night. Rudy didn’t look rusty at all, and Roy will be better offensively.

The two things I’d like to see going forward: (1) Miller starting and (2) a focus on getting Greg and LMA going at the start of games. I think #1 will help with #2, and this is especially key since Brandon likes to feel his way into games. I’ve said my piece on Steve Blake, no need to bash/rehash, but watching Andre Miller run the team in that second quarter gave us a mere glimpse of what I think he can do if Nate gives him the keys to the car.

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I believe in Greg Oden

by blazeraddict on Oct 27, 2009 11:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Think you're selling Martell a little short

He was definitely rusty to open the game, but seemed to come alive in the second quarter on. Since when does he finish with the left hand in traffic? And that facial on Chuck Hayes was straight filthy, too.

Of course, game ball goes to TO. Hard to believe the Rockets made him looks so awful in the playoffs after watching the game tonight.

Would have been nice to see a more concerted effort to get Greg the ball, there was at least one time that he had his man horribly sealed down low and TO didn’t throw him the pass, resulted in a 3 second call for one of his TOs that would have been an easy dunk. Still Hayes is an amazingly underrated post defender, so even despite Nene’s better size, I expect Greg to fare better next game.

Overall sloppy game, though. We can’t cough the ball up that much and expect to win often. Greg obviously was a big contributor, but 4 TOs for LA in limited minutes is pretty rough and Rudy seemed a little careless at times. A win’s a win, though. Nice to get the season started off right.

by Royster on Oct 27, 2009 11:12 PM PDT reply actions   3 recs

Agree with both of those points

I really liked Martell’s game tonight, and his shot will be very helpful to the post games of GO and LMA. That seal play just about made me pull my hair out, but again, hopefully the guys get better at feeding it down low

I hate Comcast.
Card carrying member of Team Bayless
I believe in Greg Oden

by blazeraddict on Oct 27, 2009 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If we can see that sort of box score line every night from Webster

I’ll be a lot more comfortable with Batum riding the pine for 3-4 months while he heals and rehabs.

25 minutes, 14 points on 4-7, 3 rebounts, 2 steals, 2 assists, 1 block, 4-4 free throws and 50% from downtown. Welcome back, Martell!

"My shoulder is OK. And away we go." -- Nic Batum
"wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow" -- Dave

by DonkeyShins on Oct 28, 2009 8:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

nicely put

I agree on all points

by jksnake99 on Oct 27, 2009 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

I think we’d be going nuts ’round here if Batum had the exact same game Martell just had.

by Mortimer on Oct 28, 2009 12:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Valid point

Some of us might be being unfairly cautious about Martell but expect the enthusiasm to steadily increase.

by jiminut on Oct 28, 2009 12:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Last Thanksgiving

I still thought Bay-Tum and Bah-Toom were two different players.

by jiminut on Oct 28, 2009 12:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Getting sloppy with your sigs, Mort

but yeah. The impressive part to me was that he seemed to take it upon himself to expand the SF role beyond just “stand in the corner and shoot threes”. He seemed to be the most active guy on offense most of the time he was on the court, doing a lot of the things that Nic supposedly did on offense that Martell doesn’t (moving off the ball, passing the ball around).

Especially nice to see him do it in a game playing against two top tier defensive wings as well, even if his backdoor cut for the Hayes dunk came after Brooks got switched onto him.

by Royster on Oct 28, 2009 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

MOAR MARTELL!!!

He hit his shots, and put Chuck Hayes on a poster. I’m ecstatic, if thats his first real game back.

Dave's Keys to the Season: "GREG ODEN SMASH!!!!!!"

by Jeremiah S on Oct 28, 2009 12:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

re: Martell

If you remember early in his career when he wanted to make an impact he tended to go pretty spastic. He would take a lot of shots, dribble the ball a ton, jump left and right trying to defend and get out of position. Tonight he obviously made an impact and was obviously under stress (at least to start the game) but it was with less drama, not more. He shot efficiently, got rid of the ball quickly, and seemed to make the smart play most of the time on defense. “Not trying to do too much” was a compliment. It shows how he’s grown. It’s also quite different than “he didn’t accomplish too much”.

—Dave

by Dave on Oct 28, 2009 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The dish and screen

to and for Outlaw was great.

by LewisClark on Oct 28, 2009 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I took it as a compliment to him as well

I just thought he had a little better game than you did, Dave, no offense taken here. His offense was varied, and he was giving a lot of effort on the defensive end with pretty solid results (although he did get blown by pretty badly by Brooks once as I recall).

It was just nice to see Martell do a lot of things that go beyond the accepted BE meme of him as a guy who can stand in the corner and shoot threes. Admittedly, though, it’s still a little disorienting to see him wearing 23.

FWIW, too, his and Rudy’s stint during the start of the 2nd quarter was +16 on the night.

by Royster on Oct 28, 2009 12:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That meme

has been more descriptive than prescriptive on most people’s parts…at least I hope it has. Martell’s worst games were when he just stood in the corner waiting. Tonight he found ways to make other things happen while still staying in the flow of the game. How long have we waited for that eventuality? I hope it keeps up because then we’ve got a NICE little small forward tandem there. Martell’s play tonight offers hope that we have some real depth instead of just potential depth.

—Dave

by Dave on Oct 28, 2009 1:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, in spite of the Turnover-fest

lots of positives to take away from tonight regarding the SF position. Not just with Marty, but TO as well.

by Royster on Oct 28, 2009 1:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Any night we can play that "bad" and win easily

Is a good night.

Just a sign that we are actually a pretty top team. Houston will do well against anyone who doesn’t take them seriously, or isn’t very talented. They defend too well, play too smart, to be a horrible team. BUT, they can’t score well at all and it’s why they won’t likely make the playoffs in my opinion.

I said this in the gameday thread… they are a team of good role players, with Battier being a premiere example of this, but he needs to be on a team with good players to be fully effective though. The problem with the Rockets, is that everyone is a glue dude on the team right now, and they need some wood to be stuck to. Can’t just be all glue!

Morty

by Mortimer on Oct 28, 2009 1:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Playing bad and winning easily

Just think if we only had a bad night of turnovers, with 20. Twenty is a lot, and I hope we never do more than that again. Take away 6 of those turnovers, and this game never gets closer than 12 points. In fact, it probably never gets that close, because their starters probably sit the fourth.

I can tell you how to make an Excel spreadsheet that proves Portland wins 62 games this year.

by jscot on Oct 28, 2009 2:30 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Marty was GREAT

Roy didn’t play well. LMA hardly played at all. Miller was up and down. Greg couldn’t look at the ball without turning it over.

But if Martell and Travis play like THAT on anything approaching a consistent basis, this team will be tough to beat. Travis was more obvious – and if he can keep working that 8 foot pull up J, KP better sign him quick b/c he’s going to demand some CAASH this summer. With his vertical, that shot is golden.

Martell made everyone around him better. He moved the ball, he moved off the ball, he played under control, he hit threes, he scored inside, he ran the court, he played D. Morty is right – this site would have exploded if Nic had a game like that.

If the Blazers get that kind of SF play consistently, and Roy can become Roy again, they should challenge LA and SA for the one seed.

Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.

by KP Corleone on Oct 28, 2009 7:36 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In my opinion

Roy stopped the momentum with his half court game. For the most part, it still seems like the team doesn’t know how to utilize Oden. I thought Miller made a compelling demonstration of a fluid and dynamic offense that was so obviously lacking in last years playoffs. It seems obvious that had Oden not entered the game in the final minutes of the 4th the Blazers would not have won. This is not last years team… Thoughts?

by LewisClark on Oct 27, 2009 11:14 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

pretty much.

i don’t know if i can love this team if I have to watch 81 more games of that stultifying offense. 4 guys stand around, and one guy dribbles the ball until he runs into 3 defenders, passes the ball and repeat.

in the second quarter i could breathe again, because the blazers were playing the game of basketball.

And with all of the isolation we see for LMA and BRoy, why can we not give Oden an isolation in the key? We fed him a few times early, but it was crowded down there, there was no timing to the passes, because the first unit has no timing in their offense, and he was stripped.

I really don’t understand this team. So much talent. And these glaring holes in their strategy. Why can’t we run a fast break? Why can’t we feed the post?

That said, with the talent on this team, they will win at least 50 games this year. It;s just gonna be ugly until they learn how to run a team offense.

But how can you teach that to your “superstar”? Weird team.

by Blazin' on Oct 27, 2009 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Greg got the the ball in the post a few times.

He shot 1 for 3 and had 7 turnovers. I think he’ll usually be much better, but it’s not like he was completely ignored.

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by pualo on Oct 27, 2009 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Most of it; what you do want?

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by pualo on Oct 27, 2009 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

???

;)

*Unless KP has a secret plan that makes this statement incorrect.
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by staylost on Oct 28, 2009 7:36 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

When Roy and Blake are running the fast break, nothing happens. When

Miller runs the fast break the course of the game changes and the momentum dramatically shifts in the Blazer’s favor. The second quarter was a period of sublime basketball. Travis Outlaw had a great game but Greg Oden did the most to win it. While he was playing the Rockets could do nothing in the paint. Great player. Great game from Outlaw. I imagine that this game was pretty personal for him. A little payback. Webster/ Outlaw tandem was looking good.

by LewisClark on Oct 27, 2009 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i know there are bright spots from tonight

portland is stacked with talent. I just don’t know that i can watch that blake/roy half-court offense night in night out. It’s just so ugly.

by Blazin' on Oct 27, 2009 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't worry, we saw enough...

fast break, baby! To give those of us that prefer the up-tempo (NBA) style of play enough to watch this year… When the playoffs come, knowing that we can execute a set play will come in handy…

by Visionary2 on Oct 27, 2009 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

not that set play.

our first team offense is eminently defendable. Until Brandon Roy learns how to play collaboratively, this team will have issues advancing in the playoffs. Call it the Kobe Syndrome. It took Phil Jackson years to get him to play with his teammates.

by Blazin' on Oct 28, 2009 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

The Roy offense was really good to finish the game: like the last four minutes.

But I agree, it was impressive how bad we became when Roy checked in. Who’s the other NBA player that has that effect? Shaq.

*Unless KP has a secret plan that makes this statement incorrect.
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by staylost on Oct 28, 2009 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dave's been doing keyboard calistenics

Thats a long hot article, damn Dave, nice work!!

by osu_fugitive on Oct 27, 2009 11:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I went to the game, and this is the first time I have gotten to see Miller with the Blazers

and there is no doubt in my mind that the entire team plays better with Miller on the floor instead of Blake. I like Blake, I think he is great for this team, but Miller controls the tempo, runs the plays better, and gets more people involved, and it’s not even close.

I will be totally surprised if Blake is still starting sooner rather than later.

Also, what the hell is up with the Miller, Blake back court???? I didn’t like it at all. Anyone else?

by Matt Daddy on Oct 27, 2009 11:20 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't see any reason for Miller-Blake

If Miller is in and you want a shooter with him, use Rudy. Doesn’t make sense to me.

I can tell you how to make an Excel spreadsheet that proves Portland wins 62 games this year.

by jscot on Oct 27, 2009 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with this wholeheartedly. I wonder if they bought into the “Miller’s gonna’ ruin the chemistry ZOMG” bs? The team clearly looks more in sync with him, particularly regarding involvement, like Matt Said, and getting the ball inside.

That said, the first quarter was really concerning to me, all those fouls, the stuttering offense. I guess just chalk it up to opening night jitters, I hope.

by LikeATimeBomb on Oct 27, 2009 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

One other side note

That back door between Rudy and Miller in the 2nd was set up between the two of them on a free throw a couple plays before. Miller and Rudy were talking at the top of the key and you could see Miller motioning him to do something on that type of set. Sure enough, couple plays later, eye connection quick movement and BAM, perfect pass easy lay up for Rudy.

It’s this type of thing that Miller was bringing all night.

by Matt Daddy on Oct 27, 2009 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

P.S.

Awesome link to the Wheaton interception. I love the announcer going wild!

I had thought it was a link to Phen-phen or some dietary supplement when I read “husky.” Maybe you should capitalize it? :)

Honor Alaa Abdelnaby.
First in the NBA. At least alphabetically

by OhOhOden on Oct 28, 2009 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

rec

I can tell you how to make an Excel spreadsheet that proves Portland wins 62 games this year.

by jscot on Oct 28, 2009 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not to beat a dead horse but

How about the 4th quarter up until the point Oden returned? A little Deja Vu? The blazers were up by 20 and the Rockets whittled away the lead by shutting down our timid jump shooting ways. A Blazer would shoot and LMA would already be running to the other end of the court while three Rockets would fight among themselves for the rebound. Greg comes in: Dominance.

by LewisClark on Oct 27, 2009 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rudy and Miller both play a very

high level, gnostic, pass into the void type of game. They seem very aware of what is happening on the court and I love to watch them play.

by LewisClark on Oct 28, 2009 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

You really don't understand Nate McMillan, which astounds me.

With the Seattle SuperSonics, McMillan would often play Antonio Daniles and Luke Ridnour together.

http://82games.com/0405SEA2.HTM

With the Portland Trail Blazers, you’ll witness numerous lineups that combine Andre Miller and Steve Blake this season.

I don’t necessarily agree with that choice, but that’s the McMillan way. So, either you’ll learn to live with it, or you’ll find that he’s not the coach you thought he was all this time.

I’m really curious as to how you’ll handle it, because you’re a different type of person than me. I know what I want and don’t let unbridled optimism blur my vision. Once you get a pair of glasses that aren’t rose-colored and clear things up for you as an individual, you may see your own light. Until then, you’ll defend McMillan with bated breath.

While I personally like coaches of the Jeff Van Gundy and Mike Fratello variety, my assumption is that your subjective opinion — albeit one that’s true to yourself — likes those guys who support a medium tempo, crisp ball movement, and a hard-working defense.

Alas, Jerry Sloan and his modern-day version of the UCLA high-post offense is for you. Sadly, though, McMillan will never satisfiy those needs for you, so deal with it.

Dear Paul Allen:

Waive Patty Mills & sign Ime Udoka.

Sincerely,
AK1984

by AK1984 on Oct 28, 2009 1:04 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which is like Luke Ridnour?

I think he felt he had to “develop” Ridnour, because he was so highly touted back then. If Miller is Daniels (who Nate played for defense and solidness), who is Ridnour? Am I mixed up?

I don’t see it as a similar situation, even if Nate does indeed play Miller and Blake together.

M—

by Mortimer on Oct 28, 2009 1:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If only we would've traded Blake

and kept Sergio, the analogy would fit so much better. Funny because last year Blake was Daniels and Sergio was Ridnour, minus the obligation to “develop” him.

by Royster on Oct 28, 2009 1:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Luke Ridnour is Steve Blake in this analogy, although they're stylistically different types ...

of players. Prime Antonio Daniels and present-day Andre Miller — well, at least Daniels during the 2004-2005 — are very similar players. The dynamic is definitely different, but the scenario is eerily the same if you look at it in a single-season prism.

Dear Paul Allen:

Waive Patty Mills & sign Ime Udoka.

Sincerely,
AK1984

by AK1984 on Oct 28, 2009 1:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know Nate likes and respects Blake

But I think the urgency of getting Rudy more minutes will override his liking of Blake. With Miller out there, and with Rudy on the roster, there really isn’t a reason to play Blake with him.

I think Rudy not playing much in the pre-season AND still recovering from his back issues have more to do with Blake being out there, but Nate’s familiarity is a big part of it as well.

I just always remembered Nate begrudgingly playing Ridnour so much, but you followed them closer than I did.

M-

by Mortimer on Oct 28, 2009 1:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, Nate McMillan wasn't fond of Luke Ridnour, which is another reason why this ...

is an odd analogy between him and Steve Blake. Nevertheless, this sets iteself up as being a very similar ordeal, with Blake in the role of Ridnour — even though Ridnour is more similar to Sergio Rodriguez stylistically — and Andre Miller as Antonio Daniels.

Heck, Brandon Roy isn’t Ray Allen — nor is LaMarcus Aldridge the same as Rashard Lewis — but the similarities remain the same. It’s different usage among the position out there, but the Nate McMillan style of offense hasn’t changed one iota.

Dear Paul Allen:

Waive Patty Mills & sign Ime Udoka.

Sincerely,
AK1984

by AK1984 on Oct 28, 2009 2:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think you hit on it

Rudy’s back probably is the big reason.

I can tell you how to make an Excel spreadsheet that proves Portland wins 62 games this year.

by jscot on Oct 28, 2009 3:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes!

a medium tempo, crisp ball movement, and a hard-working defense.

What’s not to like?

by Blazin' on Oct 28, 2009 1:25 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This was funny, AK

Unbridled optimism, defending Nate with bated breath, and unbridled optimism. Since you are willing to declaim so authoritatively and wrongly on my views, perhaps I will doubt your authoritative declarations on other matters.

Let me see. I could chase down the links, but perhaps you’ll take my word for it. I’m on record that:
1. Nate is a great rebuilding coach, but we are yet to see how he is as a contending coach.
2. Nate’s offensive schemes, while effective, do not fully utilize the talent we have on this team.
3. Nate uses too many isolations which, while undoubtedly effective, place too much of a burden on Brandon Roy.
4. Nate does not seem to be able to implement a game plan that really turns our depth into a lethal weapon.

Just for you, AK, I found a couple links. I’ll even quote myself, since it is you.
http://www.blazersedge.com/2009/8/18/994478/travis-outlaw-seeks-intergalactic#19951640

I prefer passing, ball movement, lots of cutters and off the ball screens as well.

Unfortunately, Nate doesn’t seem to have received the memo.

Until we have that kind of offense, having a guy who is basically impossible to defend is a good idea.
http://www.blazersedge.com/2009/8/18/994478/travis-outlaw-seeks-intergalactic#19959625

The problem is he doesn’t use them. With the shooters and depth we have, why we don’t do that 48 mpg is beyond me.

There is nothing that wears down opponents as much as having to run around constantly on defense for 15-20 seconds every time down the court.
In response to the question, how should we use our depth:
http://www.blazersedge.com/2009/10/1/1064876/how-to-best-utilize-blazers-depth#22107968

Six things
1. Run the ball up court on EVERY possession, even after made shots. Everybody across center court within four seconds. If nothing develops, run your offense, starting the offense by six seconds on the clock. Make the defense hustle back, and make them play defense for the whole shot clock, no resting while you get into your offense.
2. LOTS of off-the-ball motion, cutters, screens, etc. That is both physically and mentally fatiguing for the defense. Make every defender be actively defending the whole time. No standing in the corner — have your corner 3 guys cutting across from corner to corner, going around screens, etc.
3. Use a trapping unit, as phillyduck23 suggested. Maybe only a few minutes a game. Bayless, Batum, Martell, Travis, and Greg. If Greg really has his quickness back, this could work. On offense, if you have to set it up, just work it in to Greg in the low post, you can’t really double off of anyone in that lineup. This pushes the pace on defense. (This also gives Bayless a role, even if only a minor one, which isn’t a bad thing.)
4. At least 80% of the time, run a tight man defense rather than a zone. This makes the offense work harder to move the ball, etc. But throw some varying zones out there, too, because mental fatigue can be as important as physical fatigue. Make them work to recognize what you are doing.
5. Substitute freely. Everyone is going to get tired with this approach. We can afford fatigued starters better than anyone else. Rest ours, and let our bench play. If the other team plays their bench, our bench will have an advantage 8 out of 10 games (our bench is the best in the league, perhaps, but on occasion the other bench will play better). If the other team doesn’t play their bench, their starters will be sucking air come the fourth quarter. Our bench especially needs to push the pace if up against starters — oxygen deprivation FTW.
6. Mix and match lineups. Again, this is about mental fatigue. The more different looks we can throw at a team, the better. Platoon at 10 minutes for six minutes, bring the starters back for six minutes, then run a trapping unit for two minutes. Then, in the second half, run a variety of combinations. Make them adjust, adjust, adjust.

If no one plays over 35 minutes, most nights our best players will be a lot more rested in the fourth than their best players. That’s always a good idea. Well, except when you are up by 30, then it doesn’t matter.
Does that sound like Nate’s approach? Not at all, unfortunately.

Nate is a good coach who has done a lot of good things, but I’ve never said he’s perfect or anything.

You are right that I don’t understand why he does a lot of things that he does. But he is highly successful, and a lot of those things work. I have no illusions that I could begin to approach his level of success.

How will I handle it? I’ll still enjoy the good things Nate accomplishes, and give him full credit for them.

I’m twice as old as you, AK. I’ve probably had more than twice as many disappointments in my life as you’ve had in yours. It hasn’t turned me into a pessimist yet, and it won’t. I recognize the potential for disappointment is there in all parts of life. I’m prepared for disappointment in minor things like basketball and in big things — but I don’t dwell on it.

Worry is a waste of time and effort, and usually accomplishes little except to generate poor health.

I can tell you how to make an Excel spreadsheet that proves Portland wins 62 games this year.

by jscot on Oct 28, 2009 3:10 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

That's so annoying

The paragraph following each of those block quotes should have been part of the block quote. This software bugs me at times.

I can tell you how to make an Excel spreadsheet that proves Portland wins 62 games this year.

by jscot on Oct 28, 2009 3:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Disappointments ???

       How many of those happened in 2000 ? Don’t worry, be happy is a
motto of sorts !

       My major disappointment is COINCAST’s BLACKOUT of OREGON
                                                                           BLAZERMANIACS !!!

It's GO time !

by walkoff41 on Oct 28, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

With the right incentive ...

 … I can just go over and smack him around a little. Seeing as I work up here in Seattle.

hakkaa päälle !

by timg56 on Oct 28, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's a great reply and I take pride in bringing the best out of you.

Dear Paul Allen:

Waive Patty Mills & sign Ime Udoka.

Sincerely,
AK1984

by AK1984 on Oct 28, 2009 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah, yes

At first I wondered what you meant, and then I saw it. I quoted myself three times. How could I really do better than that?

I can tell you how to make an Excel spreadsheet that proves Portland wins 62 games this year.

by jscot on Oct 28, 2009 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Question:

Miller controlling the tempo or Roy? I think Blake is not the issue. If there is an issue… Conversation…

by LewisClark on Oct 27, 2009 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

you know what in all honesty, i only noticed the difference when Miller was in

i will watch the game again on DVR to see if Roy and Miller were playing together much. Call it just my observation with the naked eye on first glance

by Matt Daddy on Oct 27, 2009 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Roy and Miller had some time together on the floor, but not a ton

http://popcornmachine.net/cgi-bin/gameflow.cgi?date=20091027&game=HOUPOR

But slowly things happen that they cannot help and the Blazers Fellowship of the Ring begins to break apart

by Norsktroll on Oct 27, 2009 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That website interests me

I wonder how long it’s been up?

Honor Alaa Abdelnaby.
First in the NBA. At least alphabetically

by OhOhOden on Oct 28, 2009 12:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I found it some time last season and posted the links a few times

But slowly things happen that they cannot help and the Blazers Fellowship of the Ring begins to break apart

by Norsktroll on Oct 28, 2009 4:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aaron Brooks

Played almost 42 mintues, and was +7. Blazers won by 9. If that’s right, it means we outscored them by 16 in the 6 minutes he was out.

Disclaimer: everything I know about basketball I learned on Blazersedge.

by pualo on Oct 27, 2009 11:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

ok. how bout an actual qualitative scouting report. did he have the ball in his hands? was he getting pick and rolls?

what was he doign on defense. why did he miss so many shots? was he on the court with lowry at all? who had the ball when they were in together? things like that. things that actually help people like me.

by mandoman10 on Oct 27, 2009 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually I posted that before your question

Jinx.

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by pualo on Oct 27, 2009 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can't answer your questions because I'm only as smart as box score.

Except this: He was definitely on the court with Lowry a lot.

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by pualo on Oct 27, 2009 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh and at least a few of his 3s were wide open, great shots.

Just unlucky there.

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by pualo on Oct 27, 2009 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

One more thing: a few great floaters over defenders like Greg.

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by pualo on Oct 27, 2009 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's always had a good floater right?

Haven’t seen him much in the NBA but used to watch him at Oregon.

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by pualo on Oct 27, 2009 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's always had a good floater right?

Haven’t seen him much in the NBA but used to watch him at Oregon.

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by pualo on Oct 27, 2009 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Opps double post

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by pualo on Oct 27, 2009 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brooks only came out of the game once

His break was during the start of the 2nd quarter, when Miller, Rudy, Webster, and Outlaw were dissecting the Houston defense and hitting just about every shot they took.

by trk on Oct 28, 2009 1:41 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brooks had his moments

but double clutched badly on a wide open three when the rockets had some momentum in the 4th. He seemed to get into the paint pretty well but didn’t really seem to be in danger of putting fouls on our bigs. Oden played him really well, I thought. He was on the court with Lowry a fair amount actually, when he was handling the ball more, but Lowry had the ball in his hands a decent amount, too.

As far as his missed shots, no real explanation. At least a couple of them were pretty open that he just missed, but for the most part there was a guy near him. Regardless of Lowry’s line, I never got the impression that he was anywhere close to outplaying Brooks. Still, the Rockets are going to need a lot more offense out of him this year if they’re going to finish near .500.

by Royster on Oct 27, 2009 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Free to stream games on NBA.com

if you sign up for an account until Nov. 3rd. Just need an internet connection. FWIW, whether it was the Rockets bench, TO, Rudy, or Miller, our best stretch of the game in my eyes was definitely in the early second quarter when Miller was on the court.

Brooks looked decent, but not like the worldbeater he was in the playoffs last year. I’d say his +9 has far more to do with Greg picking up 3 quick fouls in the 4th and going to the bench followed by Joel immediately fouling out than it had to do with anything Brooks was doing necessarily. We just looked bad for most of the 4th in general, which is where I’m sure Brooks’ positive +/- is coming from.

by Royster on Oct 27, 2009 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

According to the box score he was 0-6 on three pointers,

but shot 8-17 shots. I could have sworn he hit at least one three pointer, I think he had a couple long twos. Blake was in his face most of the game, denying the three ball, but getting caught in picks, which gave Aaron some nice drives for floaters and lay-ups. It seemed to me that Lowry actually had a better game than Brooks, but Brooks did manage 19pts to lead his team. Without Yao, he can’t get nearly as open, but I still expect him to have a strong season.

by wingzeta on Oct 28, 2009 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Major gripe...

Roy should not be playing 37 minutes against the Rockets.

by R.A.M.B.O on Oct 27, 2009 11:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Well since they whittled the lead down to 6

We sure needed him!

37 minutes will be standard for Roy-Toy, I bet.

Morty

by Mortimer on Oct 28, 2009 12:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He was just off

Missed some gimmies. I wouldn’t worry.

It was less the defense and more Roy just missed.

mMm

by Mortimer on Oct 28, 2009 1:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

how did battier and ariza do on him?

who was guarding outlaw when he put up the nubmers.

by mandoman10 on Oct 28, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

First game, we're still rusty

If we do a decent job taking care of the ball in that game, Roy sits the entire fourth.

I can tell you how to make an Excel spreadsheet that proves Portland wins 62 games this year.

by jscot on Oct 28, 2009 3:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Workmanlike . . .

      is a good description. The 3rd quarter had some good flow and
the Blazers got some good quick hiiting buckets.
     As for as GO & Martell – I thought they were both trying to ease into the
season, not trying to do to much. Martell got warmed up a little in the 2nd
half and GO owned the boards and intimidated in the paint. Martell’s dunk was
impressive and I think both he & GO will get more comfortable as the season
goes on. Hayes/Landry & Scola are pretty good post defenders with good lower
body balance and activity.
     The Roy -Miller-Blake lineup was odd, but I guess Nate wanted another shooter
and decided to keep Martell’s minutes down. Workmanlike, but a win.

     GO BLAZERS !!! COINCAST’S SUCKING STARTS ON HALLOWEEN !!

It's GO time !

by walkoff41 on Oct 27, 2009 11:32 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Dr. Dre 1/2 from the arc

that would be a neat trend to maintain

"The match in Los Angeles is a good opportunity to begin to demonstrate that we want to make war." Rudy Fernández (translated)

by G_dubs on Oct 27, 2009 11:32 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

nice xtra effort dave

mr. wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow just went from to hero in under 72 hrs.

by riccc_l on Oct 27, 2009 11:37 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

One thing that needs to change is getting back on (transition) defense

Still didn’t work. Sometimes Greg was trotting back, sometimes a guard, and always it led to good shots around the basket. But I’m sure Nate will make that a point, together with the high number of turnovers and involving Oden more on offense. Oh, and that 3-guard lineup with Miller and Blake really wasn’t working

On a positive note, rebounding was awesome, and so was foul shooting (above 90%).

But slowly things happen that they cannot help and the Blazers Fellowship of the Ring begins to break apart

by Norsktroll on Oct 27, 2009 11:39 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

"don't pass to me vibe" ???????

where did that come from? all i saw was GO with his hands up, essentially begging for the ball after rolling to the hoop, or getting good position down low.

3 shot attempts for oden is pathetic on both his teammates’ and coach’s part.

why does nate insist on making oden into przybilla v. 2.0?

by CleBlazer on Oct 27, 2009 11:42 PM PDT reply actions   3 recs

Dave was absolutely right about Oden not knowing how to get position.

He was standing and watching rather than rolling to the hoop most trips down. He stops and sets up too far from the basket, which means he has to turn and shoot rather than dunk or lay it in. It’s something he needs to learn. I think he is getting caught between setting picks, and getting good position. You can’t always do both at the same time, at least not yet. The key is continual movement. Once the defender sets up on you, you have to move, and force them to set up on you again, creating momentary gaps. Oden seems to move to a spot once, and then just rub shoulders with his defender. I expect him to be watching film with the coaches and improving some of these things in the first half of this year. Then his scoring will go up. Nate also said he was not going to put the responsibility of scoring on Greg’s young shoulders, preferring to let Roy and LMA carry that load, while Greg gets up to NBA speed with defense, and scoring off rebounds. It’s actually a sound plan, because imagine what happens if you decide to feed a player still in the early stages of development the ball over and over, and he doesn’t convert. Suddenly, we would be behind in the game, when we had a couple proven scorers standing there on the court. Greg’s touches will increase each week, which is what would have happened last year if he had stayed healthy. Part of this game, was "let’s just get a win the way we know how, to start off on the right foot, then we can let the chemistry grow, and optimize sets and rotations without going below .500 in the meantime.

by wingzeta on Oct 28, 2009 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I once read that when Patrick Ewing started coaching Dwight Howard

that one of the first things that he worked on was to try and set up position closer to the hoop than you really wanted to be. That way if the defender is able to push you out a little bit you are still within your comfort zone of where you want to be.

by tingeyga on Oct 28, 2009 12:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why no Juwan when the Centers had 11 combined fouls?

curious. he coulda filled the big man gaps we needed in the mid-end of the 4th.

by osu_fugitive on Oct 27, 2009 11:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

This is a good question

I couldn’t see the game live but have it recorded for later viewing…

Gack. I’m right back where I was at the beninning of last season it seems, questioning the direction of the team vs. the personnel we have…I hope I am horribly wrong, obviously.

"The match in Los Angeles is a good opportunity to begin to demonstrate that we want to make war." Rudy Fernández (translated)

by G_dubs on Oct 27, 2009 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, G_dubs, it was a good game.

Lots of promise. I think this season will be very different from last. I’m glad it’s started.

by LewisClark on Oct 27, 2009 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cool.

I am not a Nate hater, but….he does have nme scratching my head sometimes.

Did you read his quotes tonight? Yes had a good game defensively, but it’s like he’s almost telling him to fuggutaboutit on offense…I just really think this is not a good message…

"The match in Los Angeles is a good opportunity to begin to demonstrate that we want to make war." Rudy Fernández (translated)

by G_dubs on Oct 28, 2009 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because Outlaw was crushing it all night

And LaMarcus was relatively fresh after not playing much due to fouls. Putting Juwan in wouldn’t have given us any shot blocking, much rebounding, or control of the paint, which was what we needed (and were getting) out of the 5 spot. We weren’t giving up easy boards, and we had a massive mismatch with our hot hand at the other end, so how would putting Juwan in have helped?

If Outlaw hadn’t been on fire, I’d understand the complaint, but with the game as it went, I would have been shocked to see Howard come off the bench when Joel fouled out.

by Royster on Oct 27, 2009 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for this...

I’ll keep this in mind when I watch that sequence

"The match in Los Angeles is a good opportunity to begin to demonstrate that we want to make war." Rudy Fernández (translated)

by G_dubs on Oct 27, 2009 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed again

Hide your women and put the kids to bed, Royster is bringing the heat tonight!

M—

by Mortimer on Oct 28, 2009 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good start to the season...

Lots to work on, Nate has plenty of teaching moments, but we saw glimpses of what this team will become… deadly…

Early on, Greg skied for a DReb, and hit the outlet man before he came back to Earth. Stunning play.

Miller with an early lob to Travis for 2, and Travis on the next play hustled after a loose ball at the defensive foul line, raced down the court and dunked it. Travis was the MVP tonite..

After Rudy hit Martell on the break for a 3, the Blazers ripped off a 9 point run to take early control.

A steal by Miller resuling in an LMA dunk to put us up 14 in the pivotal 2nd quarter, ending a 23-7 run fueled by the Blazer bench. (Beat columnists will have that phrase ‘run fueled by the Blazer bench’ on autotype…)

Dre had 5 assists in his first twelve minutes, quarterbacking an excellent fast break, which had me saying at one point “See?” (directed at all of you slow it down stick in the muds)…

LMA had a great pass to Martell for a dunk after yet another GO OR.

Oden had 4 blocks mid-way through the 3rd Q.(6 total). I think this kid might be something…

Travis really was great tonight, twice in the 3rd Q he passed up long open 3’s, and instead took 2-3 dribbles, and stopped on a dime to hit a pullup midrange J… sweet!

Rudy took a vicious Ariza elbow to the chest for a charge, and followed it up with a step back corner 3, after passes from Travis and Pryz! (??)

Too many turnovers (although, when we had 20, we were still up 17. 26 in the game).

Nate played 3 guards a LOT. And it wasn’t just BRoy, Miller, Rudy either. Blake (for some inexplicable reason) was in there with Rudy and Roy… and Roy played 37, too many, but Nate wanted this win BAD.

One human moment: Roy took a 3 pointer at the end of Q3 on a break, and totally missed Rudy steaking for the lob dunk on the wing… Rudy’s body language was all dejected coming back to the bench, and the cameras caught Brandon saying “sorry Rudy” for missing that pass.. Good to see!

Best musical break of the night.. playing some James Brown “need some getback… payback” coming back from commercial…

Greg was really off on the offensive end tonight. Not that we needed him… Not worried tho, he looked much better in every facet of the game tonight.. even picked up a semi-loose ball down low near the baseline – very agile looking..

Key sequence of the game: After (yet another terrible) call, the Rockettes cut it to 89-83 with 2:19 left. Blake missed a 3, and the ball flew high into the middle of the key. Travis out fought three opponents for the ball, and Houston was called for the foul…

During TO’sfree throws, Nate brings in… GO… for Dre… Huh? Well, after Travis hits 2, Greg instantly comes up with his 5th block, and after Roy hit 2 for an 8 point lead, Greg played awesome defense on Landry to force a travel… (Mike Rice: “Super play by GO to save the Blazers bacon…” Greg then followed that up with an offensive rebound dunk to make it 95-85, and the game was over…

DNP’s (from memory) for Bayless, Howard, and everybody behind them on the depth chart. Nate played this one like Game 1 of the playoffs…

1 down… five dozen or so to go… Phew! Bring on Denver!

by Visionary2 on Oct 27, 2009 11:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

awesome

Best musical break of the night.. playing some James Brown "need some getback… payback" coming back from commercial…

"No disrespect to Jeff Blake"

by Eat Politicians on Oct 27, 2009 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

T Law from everywhere "Whoo that was NASTY!!!!!"

From my view at 95.5, seemed like Brandon was struggling for most of the game. Box score says otherwise, but when he came back from his rest is when the game slowed down and things got mildly interesting.

The multiple options at 1-2 are really fun. Personally I like the idea of all the permutations of Steve/Miller (space cowboy), Rudy/Miller, Rudy/Roy, and throw in Rex on Thursday. Shows Nate is beginning to think outside the box.

All in all, a good start for a team still trying to gel.

On a side note, I clicked the link to DreamShake and in contrast I am compelled to say how lucky Blazers fans are to have Dave and Ben’s professional, balanced, entertaining and comprehensive takes.

by jiminut on Oct 27, 2009 11:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't know why so many people are calling for Oden to get the ball more in that game

He couldn’t generate anything when he got the ball. Hayes+double teams completely frustrated his offensive rhythm. We need much better spacing and positioning before we dump it in to Greg more.

by Magnum on Oct 27, 2009 11:45 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

just sayin...

there’s more ways to involve him in the offense other than dumping it in to him in the post.

pick and rolls, lob passes, etc, can all suffice.

take a look at how LA feeds bynum.

by CleBlazer on Oct 27, 2009 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

clear it out

and feed him the ball.

Ever hear of Kareem Abdul Jabaar?

by Blazin' on Oct 27, 2009 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Greg Oden is not Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

Kareem was about 8000 times more skilled on the offensive end. That’s not to say Oden shouldn’t get the ball, of course.

by jksnake99 on Oct 28, 2009 12:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There were some easy opportunities for him

that we didn’t get him the ball in, and every time we did get him the ball, he was pretty out of rhythm. As I recall, one of the few times we got the ball to him early with position he had that nice turn and dish to Miller for the layup. Regardless, the Rockets seemed to be heavily doubling him, so at the very least with how stagnant our offense looked at times, it could have gotten the defense moving and let us find some creases.

by Royster on Oct 27, 2009 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i Cant Believe

that any team or coach would give a former 1st round pick overall Only 3 shots! are we paying this guy 5+ million about to pay15+ in a couple years just for rebounds and blocks- greg was standing alittle far out from the basket tonite. id like to see him with a foot in the circle when he catches the ball and he would probably be more successfull.

by riccc_l on Oct 27, 2009 11:45 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

he wasn't getting great position

so when he did get a pass he had a long way to go — and the rockets swarmed him very quickly. they got away with reach-ins. 3 shots + 7 turnovers makes the outcome closer to 1/10.

he’ll score. it was just an odd night. houston can play d. oden was great on defense and the boards, and that’s his first priority.

ignacio

by ignacio on Oct 27, 2009 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only on two of those turnovers was he stripped.

So, in fact, it’s nowhere near 1/10

Dude, what are you doing, man? Why you gotta be holding a corn dog when I go for a high-five??

by 1badbadger on Oct 28, 2009 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Give em the ball!

cmon,pass it to the big black guy.

by riccc_l on Oct 27, 2009 11:47 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

How about the dynamic between Rudy and Ariza?

I thought Rudy brought a little something extra to his defensive game for this match up…

by LewisClark on Oct 27, 2009 11:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Travis with his patented high-rising jumpshot

(AP Photo/Don Ryan)

But slowly things happen that they cannot help and the Blazers Fellowship of the Ring begins to break apart

by Norsktroll on Oct 27, 2009 11:54 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Fantastic

No one can touch that graceful jumper of Outlaw’s.

by Bib Fortuna on Oct 27, 2009 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, to be honest,

Dave might have thought otherwise, but there were plenty of classic Travis “pass up a semi-open shot for 2 dribbles and a pull up contested 2” shots this game. Still, when he’s taller than everyone on the other team even before he leaps, that’s not an awful thing.

by Royster on Oct 27, 2009 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The bank is closed silly

It’s like 1:30am ya stupid bimbo!

I’m sorry I said the bank was closed :-(

Mo—

by Mortimer on Oct 28, 2009 1:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The ATM is still open, but I've got nothing to withdraw.

Dear Paul Allen:

Waive Patty Mills & sign Ime Udoka.

Sincerely,
AK1984

by AK1984 on Oct 28, 2009 1:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

NBA teams pay well, ya know

Go work for free since you’re already used to being broke, and earn a low level paying front office job and work your way up, AK!

I won’t stop suggesting it till you do it.

You’ll never be a dancer, so I wish you’d just give up that dream and pursue a more realistic goal of running an NBA team.

Mortimer, helpful

by Mortimer on Oct 28, 2009 1:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They call that

“poptrout” down in Tennessee.

by LewisClark on Oct 28, 2009 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

On a completely different topic...

How bad is Bob Akamian…OMG I was wishing for Tony Luftman to come back.

by Matt Daddy on Oct 27, 2009 11:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'll work on the Bob Akamian drinking game...

That seemed to be enough to get rid of T Luft….

by Visionary2 on Oct 28, 2009 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Should we bring

Ann Schatz back?

Honor Alaa Abdelnaby.
First in the NBA. At least alphabetically

by OhOhOden on Oct 28, 2009 12:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

NO

Blazers win!

by The X-man on Oct 28, 2009 1:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm wishing for a normal human to sit there for once.

Those guys were like deer in the headlights. Luftman was the worst I have ever seen, now they have a lifeless George Kastanza wasting that space.

by wingzeta on Oct 28, 2009 12:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

thoughts from the game

First, attending games is a real treat. Nothing first hand perspective to really get a feel for how the game flows.

2nd – Roy’s poor shooting wasn’t due to shot selection – he missed some point-blank shots that are gimme’s most nights. He seemed surprised a couple times at how close to the rim he was.

3rd – Oden was a beast out there. His impact on the game transcended his box score. All the bigs had nice games. Speaking of the bigs – the refs didn’t seem to know how to make the calls. Several blatant calls that didn’t go the Blazers way were more about preconception than anything. After all, a 7-footer can’t really guard a 5’9er off the dribble, can he???? I thought the refs anticipated way too many calls due to the size differential. LMA picked up fouls helping on defense, and 1 or 2 of those were just stupid bad (on the ref’s part). Nothing more irritating than a guard pushing off – flying backward in the process – and getting the call.

4th – Outlaw. Na na na na na.

5th – Wings. We played best today when the wings dominated play and the bigs played off the wings (exception – LMA in the opening minutes). Webster, Outlaw and Roy were very effective in a game where the opponent would seem to match up with them very well.

6th. Bigs again. LMA and Oden should practice against Bayless the next time they prepare for a team like the Rockets. Hayes and company poked away a lot of balls from underneath the bigs’ hands. Instead of isolation posts, the Blazers should have run the pick and roll and lobbed the ball at the rim for the big guys to go get it. Shameful coaching.

7th. Rudy is fun to watch play.

8th. Miller and Blake. meh. They had their moments, but those two had a lot to do with the game getting sloppy. Call it a feel, but there is a lot of room for improvement.

by blacknoiseNW on Oct 28, 2009 12:02 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I'd really like to see Roy get good at the lob pass

he could kill in the pick and roll if he was better at feeding the big on the roll. Roy is excellent at using picks to get his own shot or kick out when he is doubled, but he isn’t as proficient at feeding a big on the move – and the bigs are not practiced at receiving the ball on the move.

by blacknoiseNW on Oct 28, 2009 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Big rec on #6

I guess it will take Miller running it a few times in practice, but man, what limited methods used to get Greg the ball. Now granted, he still hasn’t learned to KEEP THE BALL ABOVE YOUR HEAD yet, but the team just missed dozens of opportunities to feed him, and you are 100% right, pick and roll and lob is the way to go against smaller players (again, keep the ball where they have to foul to touch it! If Greg hasn’t learned it yet, help him!)

by Visionary2 on Oct 28, 2009 12:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, I haven't seen this mentioned...

WHAT in the WORLD were the Blazers thinking having our stars run down the dark stairs of the 100 level section in the middle of hundreds of fans during the intro tonight!?

I held my breath the entire intro just panicked that somebody was going to take a massive header…

And I hope we don’t have a massive outbreak of something from our guys getting dozens of hands all over them…

Geesh, I understand the PR value of having players getting close to fans, but you gottabeKIDDINme with this one… Anybody else??

by Visionary2 on Oct 28, 2009 12:03 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

They've done this on opening night for the last three (?) years

Last game home game of the season too, I believe. It’s pretty cool, and the crowd goes absolutely nuts. No injuries so far. I’ve never noticed them carrying balls before tonight. I immediately assumed it was for health reasons, i.e. a bunch of the guys felt squeamish slapping a zillion high fives.

by Corvid on Oct 28, 2009 12:33 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

On snap

That’s what I thought too.

by tominhawaii on Oct 28, 2009 7:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My big concern was Mr. Miller

The other players high 5’ed with their balls, Mr. Miller held both his balls with his left hand, while high 5’ing with his right hand. I thought the balls were a good barrier to the swine flu. I’m seriously worried about him getting sick now.

by tominhawaii on Oct 28, 2009 7:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not crazy about the minute distribution today

I can understand giving Outlaw 33 minutes because he was playing well, but in general I thzink Rudy and Miller should be playing more than Blake and Outlaw.

by jksnake99 on Oct 28, 2009 12:04 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

lol think not thzink

I also hate finishing games with Blake. I thought we were done with that.

by jksnake99 on Oct 28, 2009 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

On most nights, I would agree that Blake and Outlaw should be playing the least

and second least minutes of everyone on a 9 man rotation. But as you said Outlaw was killin’ it, and it was the first game into the season so I can understand Roy’s preference for security blanket Steve.

by R.A.M.B.O on Oct 28, 2009 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

btw,

Still stick by your contention that this team is playoff worthy?

by R.A.M.B.O on Oct 28, 2009 12:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

absolutely

Its hard to judge how much the Rockets caused the Blazers’ offensive sloppiness, but a 9 point loss at the Rose Garden is not at all inconsistent with a 44-46 win team. The Blazers are going to win the vast majority of their home games against fringe playoff teams.

by jksnake99 on Oct 28, 2009 12:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thing is,

the Blazers have an absolutely atrocious perimeter defense, made all the worse by losing Nicolas Batum. We have virtually impenetrable barricades around the basket in our centers, but whether it’s because of the scheme or our personnel on the perimeter, we always end up slow to rotate. The fact is, there are at least 10 teams out there with better defenses than ours, and they will likely kill the Rockets as well. I don’t see the Rockets winning more than 40 games this season, especially once teams start gameplanning for them after seeing tape. They just cannot score.

by R.A.M.B.O on Oct 28, 2009 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's fair. Many people agree with you.

I have so much respect for the defensive abilities of Hayes, Battier, Ariza, Scola, Landry, etc. and the coaching of Rick Adelman that I’m projecting them to make the playoffs in spite of what will indeed be inevitable struggles.

by jksnake99 on Oct 28, 2009 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's hard to believe

just how much the Rockets are going to miss Yao this year. He may well be the most dominant individual in the league in terms of overall impact at his position. Sure LeBron, Kobe, Wade, etc are better players, but in terms of their importance to their teams? Yao is way, way up there. It is sad to see such a promising and respected team get absolutely gutted like that, through no fault of their own.

by R.A.M.B.O on Oct 28, 2009 12:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

it is a shame.

I believe Morey has acquired enough undervalued excellent role players to win a title if they had a healthy Yao and TMac. Unfortunately, it may well be that we never get to find out if that’s true.

by jksnake99 on Oct 28, 2009 12:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

he has guys who are excellent complementary players…maybe the best in the league. But complementary players don’t function as well without someone to complement.

—Dave

by Dave on Oct 28, 2009 12:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

we're going to test that to see if it's true or not

In my opinion, there is still enough on the defensive side of the ball to make the playoffs despite what will inevitably be some pretty substantial offensive struggles.

by jksnake99 on Oct 28, 2009 12:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They may also have a guy step up and become their "star"

Careers have been made by role-players who suddenly have to step up their game due to missing stars. I don’t know who it would be from that group other than Ariza, but you never know. Someone will likely become their 20ppg guy other than Brooks. Those guys have pulled together as a team before at least. I do have to admit though that with the Suns returning to their style of play “pre-Shaq”, they have a good chance to steal a playoff spot from the Rockets.

by wingzeta on Oct 28, 2009 12:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That will be the main challenge for the Rockets.

Will the Suns’ offense outduel the Rockets’ defense?

by R.A.M.B.O on Oct 28, 2009 12:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, both those teams caught a break with the Blake Griffin injury

but I still wouldn’t count out the Clips. A healthy Davis/Camby/Kaman trio could be solid.

My pick is the Rockets for the 8 seed, but the Suns and Clips will be in the mix.

by jksnake99 on Oct 28, 2009 12:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the Suns will be an excellent regular season team. They will run run run run run and score lots of points.

I really hope the games start streaming on Blazers.com soon.

If I had to term the present situation, it would have to be a series of unfortunate events.

by Cablinasian on Oct 28, 2009 1:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The guy who impressed me tonight

was Budinger. Although there’s no telling what he will be, of course. But I liked what I saw of him.

—Dave

by Dave on Oct 28, 2009 1:04 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

the issue in college was a lack of motivation. He had the potential to dominate but never did.

If they have his head straight, he’s a legitimate NBA player. Very nice scorer.

I really hope the games start streaming on Blazers.com soon.

If I had to term the present situation, it would have to be a series of unfortunate events.

by Cablinasian on Oct 28, 2009 1:06 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, he was thought of as a likely future lottery pick his first few years in college

but as he failed to dominate he slipped. Kind of like Josh McRoberts in that way.

Budinger is very athletic and can shoot the midrange jump shot. That’s about it, but he’s certainly got the potential to be a useful player.

by jksnake99 on Oct 28, 2009 1:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like his game too

He made a couple ill advised passes that resulted in TOs, but he can shoot and is “scrappy”. He could become a good Point Forward type if his game pans out. He should at least have a lot of opportunity on that roster.

by wingzeta on Oct 28, 2009 1:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like how he moves

I base much of my early judgement of a dude based on how he moves, and he moves really well for his size.

His weakness, of course, is his defense (doesn’t use his nice athleticism and body), his arms that are only as long as his height, and past concerns about effort and whether he really cares.

I like how he looks, but dunno if he can be more than a more athletic Matt Carroll.

Morty

by Mortimer on Oct 28, 2009 1:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really suck at judging a wing player "on how he moves," ...

although I’d have to say that Adam Morrison would get a F in that department. Dammit, the dude moves like a sloth—and a stoned sloth at that.

Dear Paul Allen:

Waive Patty Mills & sign Ime Udoka.

Sincerely,
AK1984

by AK1984 on Oct 28, 2009 1:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup, it's a big reason I felt he'd be horrible as a pro

He runs like a GI Joe doll, is slow in any direction, and so unathletic looking… plus not that big for his position. How exactly was he expected to match up with athletic marvels?

I mean, I know he has the heart of a champion, but he moves horribly.

His hair was dumb looking, his peach fuzz 12 year old Mexican kid mustache offensive, but how he moved made it clear to me he’d be awful.

His only listing in my plus column for drafting him was that he actually wanted to play for Portland. That was rare back then.

M—

by Mortimer on Oct 28, 2009 1:30 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's a mock draft of mine out there where I've ...

got Adam Morrison headed to Portland because he’d sell tickets.

Remember, I was a Seattle guy back in 2006.

Dear Paul Allen:

Waive Patty Mills & sign Ime Udoka.

Sincerely,
AK1984

by AK1984 on Oct 28, 2009 1:36 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hee hee

THAT was my least favorite argument for drafting Ammo of all, because let’s say ya do sell some tickets initially… once the guy sucks, you sell even less tickets than before.

But it shows how far we’ve come, when the worry about whether we could sell some tickets was used as a reason to draft a dude.

—M

by Mortimer on Oct 28, 2009 1:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I remember some losers writing and calling into radio shows

Once we didn’t draft Ammo, saying they had bought season tickets because they thought we would draft Ammo, and since we didn’t they were canceling their season tickets.

I am gonna go out on a limb and guess they never actually had season tickets, and weren’t the best judges of basketeering ability.

Who did ya have Roy going to?

M—

by Mortimer on Oct 28, 2009 1:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I had Brandon Roy going to Houston at 5.

Dear Paul Allen:

Waive Patty Mills & sign Ime Udoka.

Sincerely,
AK1984

by AK1984 on Oct 28, 2009 1:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yet, I predicted a trade up for Houston.

http://sonicscentral.com/blog/?p=673

Dear Paul Allen:

Waive Patty Mills & sign Ime Udoka.

Sincerely,
AK1984

by AK1984 on Oct 28, 2009 1:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The ironic thing is I was optimistic with ...

my commentary. I’ve changed since then.

Dear Paul Allen:

Waive Patty Mills & sign Ime Udoka.

Sincerely,
AK1984

by AK1984 on Oct 28, 2009 1:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh man AK egg is on your face

I dunno if you remember, but Minny drafted Roy and traded him to us!!

File another “AK is wrong about something” for ammunition later!! How embarrassing for you.

Wait, wasn’t Houston #9 or so? I forget… I know we drafted Foye to force Minny to trade Roy to us, which messed up their planned trade with Houston, who wanted Roy real bad.

I liked LMA and Roy the most in that draft, and when I initially thought we had gotten Tyrus and Foye, I said D’OH D’OH D’OH D’OH.

—M

by Mortimer on Oct 28, 2009 1:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Houston was 8th.

I was a lot different when I started at this than I am today, which makes a difference.

I got rid of my once blinded optimism and dumbass reliance on authority (i.e., mock drafts); thus, nowadays I now trust my own eyes and mind.

Dear Paul Allen:

Waive Patty Mills & sign Ime Udoka.

Sincerely,
AK1984

by AK1984 on Oct 28, 2009 1:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've grown a lot since those days too

I overrated offense, like most people do, and focused too much on individual stats. Didn’t care about defense enough.

I was just like our bad Blazer teams!

Blazers Edge has been instrumental in my education of the NBA, with Dave and Ben’s great work and posters like you, AK.

This place makes us smarter!

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Oct 28, 2009 2:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I'm also smarter today than 2006.

Oddly, I did have Joel Freeland headed to the Portland Trail Blazers in that mock draft of mine.

http://sonicscentral.com/blog/?p=673

Amiss all of my incorrect projections, I did hit something square on the nose. Pow! It was right in the kisser.

Dear Paul Allen:

Waive Patty Mills & sign Ime Udoka.

Sincerely,
AK1984

by AK1984 on Oct 28, 2009 2:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm personally rooting against them

if only to see How David Berri insists on explaining that away after devoting so much time touting WP because it’s consistent from year to year.

by Royster on Oct 28, 2009 12:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No one thinks Memphis will be good

so rooting for them is just being contrarian to analysts at this point.

I respect the idea of WOW, but Berri’s arrogance about numbers and insistence that WP is basically infallible because it’s regression analysis is what gets me. Every other stats expert (except possibly Winston), including KP2, Rosenbaum, Ilardi, Hollinger, etc. freely and openly admits the problems with their stats. Berri instead posts articles stating that Troy Murphy at $11 million per must be one of the most underpaid players in the league because that’s just what the numbers say.

I actually really like the Rockets and wouldn’t want to see them do badly, but that’d definitely be a side benefit I wouldn’t mind.

by Royster on Oct 28, 2009 12:48 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

KP2's system picked Memphis to go to the playoffs

I agree with your thoughts on Berri though.

by jksnake99 on Oct 28, 2009 12:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

haven’t kept up on KP2’s playoff predictions, but that’s pretty baffling. Certainly going out on a limb, though.

by Royster on Oct 28, 2009 12:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

as I recall, it’s because teams with usage rates that add up to well over 100% have often done well,

I really hope the games start streaming on Blazers.com soon.

If I had to term the present situation, it would have to be a series of unfortunate events.

by Cablinasian on Oct 28, 2009 12:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

FWIW

I do expect their offense to be better than the trainwreck most here are predicting. Still, there’s a long way from having a not horrendous offense to making the playoffs.

And I think the effect of a lot of high usage players playing together gets a little overstated. Where it only really seems to hurt is in lineups with usage adding up to much less than 100%.

by Royster on Oct 28, 2009 1:02 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

my personal conviction is that they’ll be terrible. Too many players who loaf on defense and play one on one basketball… Gay and Mayo were terrible on defense last year. Adding Zbo and Iverson isn’t going to help.

I feel bad for Marc Gasol.

I really hope the games start streaming on Blazers.com soon.

If I had to term the present situation, it would have to be a series of unfortunate events.

by Cablinasian on Oct 28, 2009 1:04 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think what throws that off

Is usually when ya got a bunch of dudes with high usage rates, they DESERVE the high usage rate.

Memphis has a collection of guys whose usage rates has always been much, much higher than it should ever have been, except for maybe peak era Iverson— but even that is debatable.

I would imagine past teams with guys whose usage rate added up to over 100% had at least 1 guy deserving of it. Mayo, Gay, Z-Bo, really don’t.

Morty

by Mortimer on Oct 28, 2009 1:05 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dunno about Z-Bo

Maybe his usage was inflated some by the craptasticness of the Miles-Dixon teams here, but he’s always been an effective offensive player. His FG%‘s weren’t amazingly high but pretty solid considering like 40% of the offense ran through him. There are worse guys you could ask to carry a load offensively.

Defensively, though, the guy’s just offensive.

by Royster on Oct 28, 2009 1:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's what I mean

Even though he scores well, if you’re giving him that big of a role on either side of the ball it means you are playing him a lot and relying on him, and he never really deserved to be that sort of player on a good team… so he hasn’t been. On a good team.

I don’t think it works to have a guy who doesn’t pass or make plays have such a high usage rate, even if he scores efficiently.

Perhaps I am wrong and there are exceptions, though.

M.

by Mortimer on Oct 28, 2009 1:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure even KP2 believes it himself.

SCHOENE apparently figures a bunch of high usage players>a bunch of low usage players, which is likely true in terms of offense. The head scratcher is that SCHOENE thinks Memphis will be pretty good on defense as well as offense.

by jksnake99 on Oct 28, 2009 12:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know how SCHOENE works

Sumthin’ is flubbing it up if it thinks they’ll be good defensively.

Does it overrate defensive stats? None of them get anything aside from steals though…

I dunno how it works, but it means sumthin’ is wrong.

M—

by Mortimer on Oct 28, 2009 1:06 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pretty good with player projections--

Hit or miss on team projections. For example, it basically predicted the Blazer breakthrough last year when the other stat geeks were picking another ~.500 season. It also had Denver missing the playoffs (he didn’t know about the Billups trade of course) and Philly winning the East though.

by jksnake99 on Oct 28, 2009 1:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

SCHOENE is based on similarity scores

It projects players using past players who are similar in 13 categories, including height and weight. The rest are stats, and yes, the only defensive stats are steal% and block%.

Once it has player projections it uses things like usage adjustments to come up with team projections.

Its based on PECOTA, the baseball system devised by Nate Silver, of fiverthirtyeight.com fame.

by jksnake99 on Oct 28, 2009 1:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ooh, good point. Berri is very annoying and smug.

I really hope the games start streaming on Blazers.com soon.

If I had to term the present situation, it would have to be a series of unfortunate events.

by Cablinasian on Oct 28, 2009 12:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can't root against Houston

I like Adelman, Morey and most of their players way too much.

by jksnake99 on Oct 28, 2009 12:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

as do I… man, this is challenging.

I think Morey still gets a little too much credit though.

I really hope the games start streaming on Blazers.com soon.

If I had to term the present situation, it would have to be a series of unfortunate events.

by Cablinasian on Oct 28, 2009 12:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

too much credit in the sense that he is praised for finding role players yet builds his team’s identity around two players who have injury issues. Either one of them had trade value two years ago.

I really hope the games start streaming on Blazers.com soon.

If I had to term the present situation, it would have to be a series of unfortunate events.

by Cablinasian on Oct 28, 2009 12:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't blame him for not selling Yao and TMac

He believed he could build a title team around them. He still might next year, though its difficult to see those two remaining healthy.

by jksnake99 on Oct 28, 2009 12:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

if it were KP in the same boat he’d be crucified for building around two unreliable players.

I really hope the games start streaming on Blazers.com soon.

If I had to term the present situation, it would have to be a series of unfortunate events.

by Cablinasian on Oct 28, 2009 12:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with snake's disagreement

People in Houston love Yao like we love Roy.

by tingeyga on Oct 28, 2009 12:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

how many comments have we seen that KP should have taken Durant over Oden due to Oden being a risk injury-wise?

Morey chose to build around two players with real injury issues.

For all of the credit Morey gets with unearthing nobodies… KP ain’t fair behind, I don’t think. Batum at 25 and Rudy at 24 are looking like pretty sweet deals at htis point. Freeland has nice potential as well.

I really hope the games start streaming on Blazers.com soon.

If I had to term the present situation, it would have to be a series of unfortunate events.

by Cablinasian on Oct 28, 2009 12:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yao had proven himself as an elite player before the injuries began in earnest

I don’t think KP is far behind Morey. I have them both in tier 2 of NBA GMs, with tier 1 consisting solely of Buford.

by jksnake99 on Oct 28, 2009 12:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh, ok. For some reason I thought you had said that Morey was the best GM in the league or something.

We agree. KP has had higher picks to deal with than Morey, but let’s not forget that the Roy pick was via trade… Telfair and Theo!

Both are very good GMs.

I really hope the games start streaming on Blazers.com soon.

If I had to term the present situation, it would have to be a series of unfortunate events.

by Cablinasian on Oct 28, 2009 12:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have said in the past that Morey would be my #2 pick

in a GM draft.

However, I don’t he’s far separated from the rest of tier 2, which includes KP.

by jksnake99 on Oct 28, 2009 1:02 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They were there pre-Morey

He’s been the Rockets GM less time than KP’s been our GM. Although I don’t think you can really compare the talent that he’s found to KP. We’ve gotten roughly double the number of draft picks by buying them. Sure, we got Rudy and Nic late in the first, but what are Sergio, Freeland and Kopponen doing for us?

Morey’s hit with Brooks and Landry, and traded Donte Greene for Ron with his only draft picks so far. Pretty solid batting average.

by Royster on Oct 28, 2009 1:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

the Sergio pick is good value. A player who proves himself as a backup point guard in the twenties is reasonable.

Freeland is looking excellent over in Europe. I’ve watched some of his play and it’s impressive. Athletic and fluid.

Koponen is bad. Very bad.

Morey is a very good GM. He just hasn’t separated himself from a tier of very good GMs.

I really hope the games start streaming on Blazers.com soon.

If I had to term the present situation, it would have to be a series of unfortunate events.

by Cablinasian on Oct 28, 2009 1:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think he's an incredible GM

just that he has a little better record at the end of the first/early second than KP has so far. Sergio was a decent pick, but looking at the guys taken around him (Brown, Farmar, Collins), wasn’t markedly better than them like Brooks and Landry were.

It’s a lot easier to take gambles in that area, though, when you’ve already made a solid pick earlier in the draft. KP just has had a lot more chances to draft a solid late 1st rounder than Morey.

by Royster on Oct 28, 2009 1:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think jury is out on Scola

in terms of whether he can carry a team on his back. If he carries this Houston team to the playoffs, then I think Daryl Morey absolutely has to win the exec of the year award.

by R.A.M.B.O on Oct 28, 2009 12:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If they make the playoffs, Scola may lead them in scoring but he won't have carried them

Rather, it will be their team defense and Scola is no better than their 4th best defensive starter.

by jksnake99 on Oct 28, 2009 12:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, he got Scola for free, basically

when he wasn’t relying on him to carry a team. Can’t complain about that.

by Royster on Oct 28, 2009 12:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh yea,

Houston basically claimed him as a FA after SA waived him, right? I guess Morey shouldn’t get too much credit for that then.

by R.A.M.B.O on Oct 28, 2009 12:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm pretty sure Houston traded for him

what did they give up, like a 2nd round pick? I forget.

by jksnake99 on Oct 28, 2009 12:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vassilis Spanoulis

I think he played like half an NBA season.

by Royster on Oct 28, 2009 12:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The trade was

Scola and Jackie Butler for 2nd rd pick, Vassilis Spanoulis+$$$

Or so says Wikipedia

by tingeyga on Oct 28, 2009 12:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rooting against this Houston team is pure evil.

They are like the definition of an underdog!

by R.A.M.B.O on Oct 28, 2009 12:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Normally Berri overrates role players who rebound but don't score much

However, in the case of the Rocket’s role-players, he might not be that far off. The Rockets have a bunch of players who are better than their stats indicate, because they were assembled by Morey using much more detailed proprietary stats that include a lot of things that don’t show up in the box score. For instance, Shane Battier looks mediocre according to many box-score based metrics, but Morey has proprietary stats that prove that he is actually very effective. He also has proprietary stats that prove that Chuck Hayes is an excellent defender despite being extremely short for his position. So the Rockets role players are underrated by almost every common statistical metric, and Berri’s WP might actually be a reasonably accurate metric for them because it normally overrates role players.

by trk on Oct 28, 2009 2:30 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Probably a little back spasm caution

What was baffling was why we would ever play a Blake-Miller-Roy lineup on a night when our three best players were probably Outlaw, Webster and Rudy.

by Royster on Oct 28, 2009 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rudy's still icing up

Nothing more to say about Travis that hasn’t been said tonight. I’d like to see Miller running the offense sooner rather than later but it’s clear that Nate’s doing the tightrope between him and Brandon.

by jiminut on Oct 28, 2009 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I haven't read all the replies to this yet

But Nate said in the post game that Rudy was tired.

by tominhawaii on Oct 28, 2009 7:30 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Food for thought

Rockets outscored the Blazers 36-22 in the paint with an undersized lineup. Rockets outscored the Blazers 16-8 in fastbreak points.

I’m keeping an eye out if Nate McMillan is capable of coaching players who don’t traditional fit within his system. Which, by in large, are playmaking point guards and scoring centers. Oden isn’t a low post threat yet, but he has the offensive tools to contribute more than 3 shots per game.

It’s hard to make judgments based on this game. Rockets are offensively challenged and lack the playmakers on offense to put much pressure on the Blazers. Although being outscored in the paint is not a good sign for this season.

Overall, a win, but the Blazers must change their jump shooting identity if they want to be considered serious contenders. A pick and roll between the center and the point guard would be a nice place to start. More specifically, Oden and Miller.

"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith

by blzrfan on Oct 28, 2009 12:19 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

layups off turnovers count as points in the paint

don’t read too much into that stat. The blazers dominated the paint otherwise.

by blacknoiseNW on Oct 28, 2009 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oden says

Its my court now boyee:

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Oct 28, 2009 12:27 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Best Stat of the Night (Besides 96-87)

Shane Battier +/- = -22…

Guess you’re not as good a defender when Artest and Yao aren’t out there with you.

And now all the PER enthusiasts will tell me why I am wrong…

by Matt Daddy on Oct 28, 2009 12:28 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Is Battier a guy who even looks good with PER?

He’s a bonafide and as proven a glue dude as there is.

—Mort

by Mortimer on Oct 28, 2009 12:30 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

His PER

is Bayless-esque, as I recall.

by Royster on Oct 28, 2009 12:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bowen’s is very low as well.

I really hope the games start streaming on Blazers.com soon.

If I had to term the present situation, it would have to be a series of unfortunate events.

by Cablinasian on Oct 28, 2009 12:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's a Dukie

Way too hyped relative to his talent.

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Oct 28, 2009 12:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

did you really just use plus minus from one game to draw a conclusion?

I don’t even think I need to tell you why that is wrong. It may end up being that Battier slides this year, but we don’t know that at all.

We do know that over the past several years, he’s been a phenomenal defender and a decent shooter of the corner 3.

by jksnake99 on Oct 28, 2009 12:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

don't get me wrong...i was being totally tongue in cheek about Battier's stat and the conclusion drawn

I do think you will see a rather large drop off in his defensive abilities this year given that he doesn’t have Artest and Yao helping on that side of the ball.

I like his game, I just think he has been way too hyped over the years for what he brings.

by Matt Daddy on Oct 28, 2009 12:36 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Has he really been that hyped?

The only people that hype him are nerds like me.

by jksnake99 on Oct 28, 2009 12:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

exactly :-)… and for some reason the “nerd” voices have been louder more recently than i can ever remember.

It’s almost turning into baseball… well not that bad… but you get my point

by Matt Daddy on Oct 28, 2009 12:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, there are plenty of guys that PM-based stats love

that aren’t hyped. Battier isn’t one of them, being the poster boy for Michael Lewis and all.

by Royster on Oct 28, 2009 12:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

right

Until then, he had gotten basically zero hype and the only NBA fans that saw that article were towards the nerdy side of NBA fans. You still never see him talked about on ESPN or anything.

by jksnake99 on Oct 28, 2009 12:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The biggest problem with this game for me is that it tells me nothing about where we are

with respect to the rest of the elite teams in the league. Maybe it’s too early to think about these things, but without a few games to calibrate who’s tops and who’s the worst in the league, it’s going to be impossible to gauge exactly where we are at as a club. Clearly we match up very well with Houston now, but does that mean we’re good or Houston’s bad?

by R.A.M.B.O on Oct 28, 2009 12:35 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

A lot of our errors

Were of the sort that will decrease as our team gets better gelled. Especially the turnovers.

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Oct 28, 2009 12:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great recap!

Thanks for the great recap Dave.
PS New member & first time poster! I think your summary is waaay better than the Oregonian’s. Also, love hearing you on the chats with Casey. -A Portlander in Prague

by aneebaba81 on Oct 28, 2009 12:58 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I am honored

Welcome!

—Dave

by Dave on Oct 28, 2009 1:06 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dave's recaps and Ben's media row reports

are simply the best way to follow your team from afar, hands down.

I am an oasis of Blazer fandom in a bleak desert of Laker fans.

by RenoBlazerFan on Oct 28, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the ref's snappy new duds yet!

I was really happy with the game tonight, and think most of the turnover problem is because the current lineup hasn’t played together long and so it will take some time to get the continuity and chemistry right.

Oden was a beast tonight, but they needed to feed him the ball more. Yeah, TO took away a few great spotups from the big guy but only 3 attempts? That’s not nearly enough!

Blazers win!

by The X-man on Oct 28, 2009 1:12 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, Oden rebounded well, blocked a lot of shots, moved well, and didn't

get into early foul trouble. He scored in the preseason and those hooks and dunks will return. He played well tonight.

ignacio

by ignacio on Oct 28, 2009 1:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If he can block 5 shots a game I'll be extremely happy with his D

…although I don’t know that I can put up with a 2 point output on a nightly basis…

Blazers win!

by The X-man on Oct 28, 2009 1:25 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice effort tonight. All you Travis Outlaw haters better pay the man some respect. I think he’s going to have a solid year with Nic out. He’s our work horse now and Rudy is the secret weapon.

Regarding Hedo TĂĽrkoÄźlu:

Look at the bright side, Blazers fans -- you dodged a bullet. He peaked statistically two years ago. He's allegedly 30 but could be closer to 32 or 33 for all we know. (Do you trust Turkish birth certificates? And isn't it weird that he played four years of pro ball in Turkey in the 1990s?)

- Bill Simmons of ESPN.com

by halo_on on Oct 28, 2009 1:33 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Just like I'd hate for his detractors to harp on one bad game

It really isn’t fair to do the same the other way.

Until he shows he can play an all-round game consistently, he’ll be seen for what he is— a bench scorer. Nuthin’ wrong with being a bench scorer! We shouldn’t overrate or underrate the importance of such a role.

He’s had plenty of single games that showed he possesses the ability to play an all-round game. Aside from scoring, he hasn’t been able to keep it up consistently. With Batum out, he’ll get a shot.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Oct 28, 2009 1:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My name is Dave, and I'm a Trout Basher...

Here’s my respect – great game Travis! Methinks he’s been listening:

1) Two great plays in which he passed up an open 22 footer and quickly dribbled into the lane, elevated like only Travis can, and swished the shot.
2) A HUGE offensive rebound at 89-83, fighting off 3 Rockettes for the ball, and scoring foul shots. The whistle gave Nate enough time to wake up and get Oden in the game to seal the victory…
3) Excellent D, and he actually crashed the boards!

Great start Trav… Now let’s show some consistency… A month like this and I’ll back off the Trade Travis soapbox… (Actually, who am I kidding, I’ll be stoked because his trade value is increasing… He and Blake have the only expiring contracts worth dealing…)

by Visionary2 on Oct 28, 2009 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did anyone else notice Brandon's dimes?

He had some pretty nice passes that I don’t remember being part of his repertoire.

by pdxer in dfw on Oct 28, 2009 6:28 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Indeed they are...

They are also representative of the number 10. However in Brandon’s case, (and now with LaMarcus) the dime could be a symbol for extra money that may burden them to spend.

by pdxer in dfw on Oct 28, 2009 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice to see a game.

Nice to see our team win. I’ll assume what we saw on opening night will have little to do with the rest of the season. Remember the first game last season?

I did like the Miller-Rudy backcourt. A lot of basketball savvy in that combo.

by PoliSam on Oct 28, 2009 6:34 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I actually liked that combo, too

except I was wondering why Miller wasn’t posting up Houston’s mini-PGs more.

This was a lot nicer than last year’s opener…

"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy

by Honka Playboy on Oct 28, 2009 6:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

One play from GO....

where he slid over to help on a guard penetrating baseline and then recovered quickly to block Landry’s (?) shot on the other side of the rim, made me very very very happy. He was in position the first time and nimble back the other way. Fantastic!

"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy

by Honka Playboy on Oct 28, 2009 6:40 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

League Pass

I can’t believe I’m writing this, but I miss the Portland commercials and halftime junk. The “Please Stand By” junk is annoying.

by tominhawaii on Oct 28, 2009 7:50 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Completely agree. HATE the new "please stand by" thing

Here’s hoping it’s just part of the free preview…

Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.

by KP Corleone on Oct 28, 2009 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No I think it is here to stay

They started doing this about 2/3rd’s of the way through last season as well. That’s why as much as it pains me I DVR the games and wait about 30 minutes before I start watching.

"I saw him in the face" Sergio's quote on the latest alley-oop to Rudy.

by blazermaniac32 on Oct 28, 2009 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup

That was going to be my reply

by tominhawaii on Oct 28, 2009 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just watch whatever other games are on in the interim

last night I watched the Wizards-Mavs game. I just think of it like changing the channel on the TV and it doesn’t bug me.

"I just sort of know that around the water cooler they talk of reality tv stars, and I strictly drink coffee." -- EvilKaramazov

by BlazersOrBust on Oct 28, 2009 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I DVR'ed it

It’s harder to tell when to stop FFing and when you decide to leave it on to get a drink or something, the music is annoying.

by tominhawaii on Oct 28, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gotta say, the Miller, Rudy, Any SF, LMA, Oden lineup is looking like our best lineup.

*Unless KP has a secret plan that makes this statement incorrect.
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by staylost on Oct 28, 2009 7:56 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It is, and will be...

Hope that Nate can take the BRoy blinders off enough to see that… (Of course, I like BRoy in the “any SF” slot the best…)

by Visionary2 on Oct 28, 2009 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually

last night it was Miller, Rudy, Martell, Trout, Oden…

LMA was the only rotation guy with a negative plus/minus last night. Martell and Trout were by far the best guys in that department. Killed the Rockettes with those guys on the floor.

I wouldn’t think we could get away without having a PF on the court for long stretches, but Oden was so dominant on the glass and on D, and Trout and Martell were so active on both ends, that it worked great last night. Against a team with a real front line? Maybe not so much.

Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.

by KP Corleone on Oct 28, 2009 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe not

but that lineup isn’t that far off what the Magic play a lot of: 4 shooters and 1 center to pickup all of the rebounds.

by tingeyga on Oct 28, 2009 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

game 1

Nate has lots of homework to do but nothing compared to what Adelman faces.

His starting squad played crappy while his backup unit played so well they almost gave the Blazers a whupping in the Rose Garden.

What in the heck does Adelman do now? Use his backups as starters and move the starters to the bench?

by lsjogren on Oct 28, 2009 9:12 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

One thing about it

One thing about it: You have got to give Adelman a lot of credit.

His team is wracked by injuries, and yet for stretches of the game we saw the same Rockets of last year’s playoffs who froze the Blazers like a PC running Windows 98.

by lsjogren on Oct 28, 2009 9:24 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

NOOOOO!

The horror! Don’t remind me of the horror!

(Windows 98, that is. Not the 08-09 Rockets)

Blazers win!

by The X-man on Oct 28, 2009 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are Greg's blocks contagious?

It seemed like everyone on the team was blocking a lot.

by pdxer in dfw on Oct 28, 2009 9:58 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

they are midgets.

I really hope the games start streaming on Blazers.com soon.

If I had to term the present situation, it would have to be a series of unfortunate events.

by Cablinasian on Oct 28, 2009 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Small team, those Rockets.

But yeah, Webster and Oden are two guys who like a little emotion in their games, and play much better when they get something like a block. And then everyone feeds off of it.

*Unless KP has a secret plan that makes this statement incorrect.
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by staylost on Oct 28, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs


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