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The Season's Eve Blazers Preview

Well my friends, here we are.  It's the eve of the 2009-10 regular season.  I've got a bag of freezer-cured chocolate mint patties on one side of the keyboard, a Diet Mountain Dew on the other, and it's time to roll out the season preview.  This would be the last possible moment to collect your thoughts and assess the Blazers' progress before our theories are tested for real.

The preview is assembled after the jump...all nine pages of it.  Enjoy!

Star-divide

We're going to break the preview into categories to make things easier.  We'll start with a look back at the statistical measures of 2008-09, run through the changes and updates, and finish with a look at the upcoming year.

Note that these statistical totals come from different sources, some of which add the playoffs into their totals and some of which don't.  The numbers are comparable and the ranks, as far as I know, are unchanged either way.  No need to sweat a few tenths.

The Offense

Statistical Category

Statistical Output

Rank in NBA

POINTS PER GAME

99.4

14th

PACE

86.8

30th

FIELD GOALS MADE/GAME

36.6

15th

FIELD GOALS ATT/GAME

78.9

23rd

FIELD GOAL PERCENTAGE

46.5%

8th

3-POINTERS MADE/GAME

7.1

8th

3-POINTERS ATT/GAME

18.6

13th

3-POINT PERCENTAGE

38.3%

3rd

3-POINT RATE

.236

13th

FREE THROWS MADE/GAME

18.3

22nd

FREE THROWS ATT/GAME

23.9

18th

FREE THROW PERCENTAGE

76.5%

17th

FREE THROW RATE

.234

14th

EFFECTIVE FIELD GOAL %

51.1%

8th

FAST BREAK POINTS/GAME

9.0

29th

POINTS IN PAINT/GAME

38.3

18th

ASSISTS

19.9

23rd

TURNOVERS

12.0

5th

TURNOVER PERCENTAGE

12.5%

7th

OFFENSIVE EFFICIENCY

113.9

1st

Offensive Analysis

The stat board confirms what most observers heralded about the Blazers offense in the 2008-09 season.  They were a strong, even cold-blooded halfcourt offensive machine.  They shot well from the field, with excellence from the three-point arc.  They generated few possessions but made the most of each one.  They finished 8th in field goal percentage, 3rd in three-point percentage, and were 8th overall in effective field goal percentage.  They limited turnovers and found themselves on top of the league in offensive efficiency, estimated points per 100 possessions.

The cost of that efficiency was a strict cap on the number of possessions generated.  The Blazers finished ahead of the Rockets in fast break points scored per game, but that's it.  They finished dead last in pace, possessions per 48 minutes.  This trade-off dropped their raw offensive numbers to the middle of the pack despite the brainy play.  They were 14th in points generated per game and 15th in field goals made.  Their sterling three-point percentage brought them to 8th in three-pointers made though they were 13th in attempts.  The low number of possessions generated also submarined the assist total on an otherwise unselfish team, leaving Portland in 23rd place though passing remained a significant part of their attack.

The easiest summation of the Blazers offensive conundrum is this:  They are brilliant at running the offense as it stands but they also appear to have maxed out its production potential and it isn't enough.

The most frequently cited solution to this issue is to pick up the pace.  More fast break opportunities should generate more possessions and points without sacrificing efficiency.  In theory this is true but the cost for pushing tempo, accentuated by the inexperience of this team both overall and with each other, is a rise in turnover percentage.  Though blessed with talented wings and point guards the Blazers are yet limited in natural ball-handlers who can also run a fast-break.  They also lack experience filling lanes and finishing.  Portland is well past the Jarrett Jack/Zach Randolph era when every running opportunity looked like a Keystone Cops routine.  But they still look awkward and unpracticed when anyone besides LaMarcus Aldridge is charging the hoop...and even he needs to receive the ball late to finish well.  Portland must attempt to run but this will not be an instant panacea for their offensive limitations.

A couple of fields do remain unplowed, however, which offers hope for production without disruption.  The Blazers are only average at generating and converting free throws.  Likewise they are lackluster at producing points in the paint.  Addressing the second issue will likely bolster the first.  The mid-range jumper has become a staple of Portland's attack.  It makes a deadly option when combined with paint scoring but an unsatisfying basis for the offense as a whole.  If Portland can find a credible low post attack the offense will open up.  They need not even milk it for points.  Even a legitimate threat will be enough to draw defenders down low, allowing the quick pass out where the shooters will find their mid-range attempt uncontested.  With defenders now staying with shooters because they fear the low and high attack both, the middle opens up for guard penetration.  The low post man steps out a couple feet making his defender choose between stopping the driver or staying with him and allowing the bucket.  If the defender sags the guard either draws a foul on the opposing big man (opening up more low post opportunities when he has to hit the pines with foul trouble) or flips to the post player who is now five feet from the basket and unopposed.  More free throws, more layups, more dunks, and more pressure on the defense equals more points, more fatigue for the opponent, and a chance for the Blazers' superior depth to show late in games.  And the elements of this attack are not far different than those the Blazers already employ as long as they have a competent scorer near the basket to provide the initial threat.

Obviously the burden of that role will fall on Greg Oden.  A second factor is the willingness of Brandon Roy to give up some possessions early in the game while still staying involved, knowing that the floor is going to open for him as the night progresses.  Roy will need to adopt the superstar attitude that the first 20 minutes are for getting everyone else involved and the last 28 are go-time.

The Defense

Statistical Category

Statistical Output

Rank in NBA

POINTS PER GAME ALLOWED

94.1

4th

FIELD GOAL MAKES ALLOWED

35.3

8th

FIELD GOAL ATT ALLOWED

76.6

2nd

FIELD GOAL % ALLOWED

46.0%

17th

3-POINT MAKES ALLOWED

6.0

5th

3-POINT ATTEMPTS ALLOWED

16.0

4th

3-POINT % ALLOWED

37.4%

18th

3-POINT RATE (OPPONENT)

.209

7th

FREE THROW MAKES ALLOWED

18.3

22nd

FREE-THROW ATT ALLOWED

21.7

4th

FREE-THROW % ALLOWED

80.3%

30th

FREE THROW RATE (OPPONENT)

.219

8th

EFFECTIVE FG% ALLOWED

49.9%

14th

FAST BREAK POINTS ALLOWED

9.9

1st

POINTS IN PAINT ALLOWED

38.1

11th

BLOCKS PER GAME

5.1

11th

BLOCK PERCENTAGE

.066

7th

STEALS PER GAME

6.7

25th

OPPONENT TURNOVER %

.132

12th

DEFENSIVE EFFICIENCY

107.8

14th

Defensive Analysis

 

Much like the offensive stats, Portland's defensive numbers tell a definitive tale.  In categories that are pace-sensitive the Blazers finish high as their slower rate of play limits opposing possessions and thus cumulative totals.  The Blazers look great at 8th in opponent field goal conversions allowed, 5th in three-point conversations allowed, and 4th in free throw attempts allowed.  When you factor out the plodding rate of play and measure actual percentages, however, the results tend towards the mediocre.  Granted, mediocre is far ahead of where the team used to be.  This is a major reason for the improvement in record.  But finishing between 14th and 18th in the major percentage categories isn't going to net you an elite-level win total unless your offense is consistently high-powered.  Since the Blazers' strongest defense appears to be the same slow play that limits the offense, this isn't likely.

The Blazers showed improvement in a couple of key areas last season.  Their opponent turnover percentage generated was .132, good for 12th in the league.  This was up from .117 and 24th in the league a year prior.  The Blazers generated more steals per possession and forced the opponent into tougher plays.  This was bolstered by improved interior defense.  Portland's 11th place finish in points in the paint allowed (38.1) was up from 18th place (40.2) the year before.  40.5% of opponent points were scored in the paint in 2008-09 compared to 41.7% a year prior.  The percentages and numbers may seem small but so are victory margins in this league.  If Portland could make another leap this year their defense would look inspired.

For the last decade the Blazers have put pressure on their big men to anchor the defense and close the lane.  This year is not likely to be different.  Despite the lip service to improved perimeter defensive play the team is still stocked with guys better known for their offensive ability and commitment.  Portland has employed any number of zone schemes, disguised zones, and man rotations to disguise their shortcomings but the bottom line is sagging off to guard against the drive, thus ceding the jumper, is the most effective perimeter defense the Blazers have been able to muster.  In games where they're energetic enough the guards and forwards can get a hand in the shooter's face.  In games when the defenders are slow or the opponent is hitting anyway the only recourse is to channel into the big man and pray.  The Blazers still don't have the chops to play against the jumper and the drive.

One welcome change announced this pre-season was the team promising to let the center stay down low in pick and roll situations, thus formalizing his role as goalie and making it easier thereby.  This should cut down on out-of-position fouls and awkward rotations.  It's been amazing that the Blazers have been as effective as they have at patrolling the lane the last couple seasons with their big men wandering.  Cementing the low defense may have a trickle-down effect, allowing the perimeter guys to be more aggressive and take more chances on steals and blocks.  This would add an extra level of threat to Portland's basic "stop easy shots by staying in front of the opponent at all costs" mantra.  The extra opportunities will only come if the big men are up to it and able to stay in the game.  It will be interesting to see what the Blazers do against more mobile, perimeter-oriented centers.  In those cases the best defense will undoubtedly be banging against them in the post on the offensive end, tiring them and matching their points.  Once again Greg Oden's name looms large here.

While Blazer fans make much over the whistles blown against the team ranking 8th in opposing free throw rate and 4th in opponent free throw attempts is pretty good, especially for a squad still earning respect.  Hopefully the trend will continue.

Teams with a true desire to progress from good to great usually find their greatest growth potential on the defensive end.  The Blazers may be a little young yet to understand that but another year of experience playing together should help firm the rotations and cement responsibilities.  Defensive regression would be a sure sign that something is going south in Blazer-land.

Rebounding

 

Statistical Category

Statistical Output

Rank in NBA

OFFENSIVE REBOUNDS/GAME

12.7

1st

OFFENSIVE REBOUNDING %

.320

1st

DEFENSIVE REBOUNDS/GAME

28.6

27th

DEFENSIVE REBOUNDING %

.751

6th

TOTAL REBOUNDS/GAME

41.7

12th

OFF. REBOUNDS ALLOWED

9.5

2nd

OFF. REBOUNDING % ALLOWED

.249

6th

DEF. REBOUNDS ALLOWED

27.0

1st

DEF. REBOUNDING % ALLOWED

.680

1st

TOTAL REBOUNDS ALLOWED

36.3

1st

REBOUNDING DIFFERENTIAL

+5.4

1st

Finally we see an area in which the Blazers are undoubtedly great.  In every category the team ranks among the league's elite, if not at the very top.  Rebounding is Portland's bread and butter.  Offensive rebounds generated precious extra possessions and points for an offense that desperately needs them.  Solid defensive rebounding makes up for errors on that end.  If anything the Blazers' rebounding prospects should have improved with a deeper and bigger big-man corps and new (or returning) forwards and guards with strong rebounding tendencies.  Portland should continue to be a handful for every team in the league on the boards.

The Statistical Summation:  Point Differential

In the end the game boils down to scoring more points than you allow your opponent.  Every stat points to that end.  Here's what the Blazers looked like:

Points For

Points Against

Point Differential

Rank in NBA

99.4

94.1

+5.3

5th

Whatever else the numbers say, this was an excellent sign.  You can muddy the waters with certain stat categories but point differential based on an 82-game season is hard to fake.  Mitigating factors came into play during the playoffs, namely unfortunate matchups and a huge experience gap.  But those will not be as pronounced during the next post-season.  If the Blazers maintain this level or gain a few points they will be a legitimate threat in the playoffs.

What Has Changed:  New and Improved(?) Players

Andre Miller

As the most prominent acquisition of the off-season Miller might be expected to make the greatest difference during the coming year.  Despite a rough start in the chemistry department he brings several characteristics that bolster the Blazer attack.  The most important of these is legitimate experience at the point guard position.  Last year the Blazers had one point guard upon whom they could rely.  This year they have two.  No matter where Miller plays in the rotation bringing either him or Blake in will look light years different than bringing in Sergio Rodriguez.  He also provides a driving threat, passing acumen, and he is a good rebounder.

His liabilities as pertain to this team are outside shooting and the lack of clear-cut improvement on defense, both of which would be beneficial to Portland's perimeter game.  Also he's been a middle offensive option on almost every team he's served.  His shots per game last year would have planted him solidly as the third scorer on this team.  The actual role the Blazers will want him to fulfill puts him more in the range of 5th-6th.  Between that and working out ball-handling duties with Brandon Roy his acclimation may continue to be bumpy.  It's hard to imagine things completely falling apart, however.  Chances are if he feels truly underutilized he'll simply adapt his game and play hard enough that the coaches won't have a choice but to use him.  Miller may not be the ideal fit in every way, but he's suitable enough to provide a definite incremental improvement.

Martell Webster

Webster returns from last season's injury bringing with him outside marksmanship, rebounding, and a burgeoning commitment to attack on offense.  The first two attributes are always welcome.  One wonders whether he'll be able to prosecute the third to his desired level.  This a different team than the one he left.  Brandon Roy is now an established star with LaMarcus Aldridge not far behind.  Greg Oden needs to be established.  Andre Miller wants some shots.  Nicolas Batum will start the season ahead of Martell on the depth chart and Travis Outlaw may come sniffing for minutes.  The team could really use a small forward with ball-handling ability both to bring the ball up the court and to drive from the wing.  Martell isn't that guy.  He should be a snug fit and could even win the starting position back but it's hard to imagine him getting more than 20-25 minutes per night which is not enough to establish himself firmly.  Martell could help this team but the real question is whether he will.

Greg Oden

If the Blazers hope for improvement this year, let alone the revolution on the offensive and defensive ends that they need in order to make the ascent to rarified air, Greg Oden will carry its burden on his shoulders.  He's leaner, healthier, quicker, and more confident.  So far he's shown and said everything he needs to in order to inspire confidence.  That said, he's still in the infant stage of his development and it'll likely be another year before he is able to show consistent dominance, provided that's in the offing at all.  The Blazers are not used to an inside presence on the offensive end.  He's not used to being the inside presence on the offensive end.  His teammates will need to learn to trust him as he will need to trust himself.  He'll need to prove he can stay on the court, both healthy and foul-free.  He'll need to cope with how much the Blazers will end up relying on him and respond wisely.  Granted he still has a ton of back-up, not only in the ultra-capable Joel Przybilla but in the various skills and talents of his teammates.  It's not like he'll be exposed as the main offensive option out there.  But neither he nor the team can afford to see a season where he simply blends in with the crowd.  The Roy-Aldridge-Oden express has left the station.  Greg's production is the key to keeping momentum and indeed keeping the train on the rails.

LaMarcus Aldridge and Brandon Roy

Both have progressed remarkably well through their early years.  You could hardly ask for better.  Nor is there reason to believe that either or both will quit growing, let alone producing.  With their new (and rich...and expensive...and long-term) contract signings, however, each has reached a new phase in his career. Each is making money comparable to what today's superstars were getting at their age.  Expectations are changing.  What used to cause amazement is now taken for granted.  Production is no longer enough.  Wins count.  Playoff progress counts.  Providing an edge every single night counts. You'd like to believe that contract considerations don't factor in to what happens between the lines but it does.  Players who have been fighting for respect, to prove themselves, and to earn that huge payday now have to find new motivation for success.  It's not as easy of an adjustment as it seems.  Anyone out there who has experienced a sudden windfall knows exactly what I'm talking about.  Between dealing with new teammates, improved teammates, and the pressure that aiming for deep playoff runs brings Portland's two stars have plenty to negotiate.

Other players could be mentioned here, including Rudy Fernandez, Travis Outlaw, and Nicolas Batum.  But unlike everyone else mentioned above their positions and progress are too far up in the air to speculate on reasonably at this point.  (Martell Webster technically fits that description as well, but he's brand new to the team in essence, and thus had to be mentioned.)  The truth is even with a few weeks of pre-season we've not seen the full rotation in action.  How it all will work together is one of the most important, and open, questions of the year.  The Blazers undoubtedly have depth, but depth alone does not win games.  The team has to play cohesively and in a style to take advantage of that depth.  It's a far different problem than the Blazers have had since Nate McMillan took over as coach...one they're not experienced in handling.  Chalk this up as one of the prime issues facing the team going into the season.

The Prognosis for 2009-10

The litmus test for any team that wants to be great is how many serious questions it faces as it heads into battle.  More uncertainty means more obstacles to face on the way to the promised land.  If you haven't figured this out yet, learn it now:  a team never gets to avoid its obstacles.  Over the course of an 82-game season and through a series of seven-game playoff tilts in which your opponent has nothing else on its mind than exploiting your weaknesses, your team will be forced to face every single ghost that haunts it until it banishes them or is overcome by them.

The Blazers face fewer questions this year than they have in years past.  Their best players are more established and experienced.  Each position is filled with layers of competent players.  There's more veteran help off the bench.  The team has defensive issues but few glaring, fatal weaknesses.  This Blazers are solidly stacked.

However the questions the Blazers are facing are more esoteric and somewhat new to them.  The leap from bad to good is difficult but fairly straightforward.  The leap from good to great is more intricate.  Can you figure out where to go every night and then execute that plan every night regardless of opposition?  You have several players who delighted you by just showing up and being good.  Are those same players now ready for the prime-time spotlight?  Are you prepared to win when you have a target on your back and nobody overlooks you?  Are you prepared to win now that people expect it instead of being happily surprised by it...when instead of taking losses for granted and celebrating every win people are now taking wins for granted and ruing every loss?  Can you deal with success and the money and attention and growing egos that accompany it?  Can you keep every key player happy, or at least on track?  Can you bounce back from losses, as disappointing as they now are, and not let one bad night become three?  Now that you have the fundamentals down can you take in that extra 5% that defines the great teams from the also-rans?

What's more, by definition at this stage the people the Blazers rely on to make the biggest difference are also the people with the most questions surrounding them.  Greg Oden is the poster boy on both ends of the equation.  He is going to have games where he looks indomitable.  He's also going to have games where he picks up 3 fouls in 10 minutes and walks to the bench in frustration.  Andre Miller will have 7-for-15 games where he makes the difference.  He'll also have 6-for-15 games in which people call him selfish and a bad fit.  In order to improve significantly on 54 wins Portland would need both of these guys to come through every night.  That's highly unlikely to happen in the early season and may not happen for Greg until late in the year or until 2010-11.  There's no reason to suspect the Blazers will regress but the road forward may require a balance that the team doesn't have the confidence to find yet.

The questions that Portland will be forced to answer are likely to blunt the edge of their heretofore rapid growth curve.  This season is less likely to be a tour de force than a gut check and a time for assessment and resolve.  When they do hit their stride the team will look amazing.  How long they can keep that stride at a time will be the question, as well as how long they take to regain it after they've fallen out.

The Blazers are going to have a great shot at winning the division even if they happen to stumble a little out of the gate.  It's reasonable to assume that they'll play well enough to break the 50-win barrier again.  It's also reasonable to assume that the West is going to be more balanced this year than it was last, with several teams in the middle of the pack improving.  Some of the once-fine teams have dropped to the lower echelon but "lower" may not be quite as low as it has been in years past with teams like the Thunder and maybe even the Grizzlies being potentially dangerous on a given night.  With win totals in general evening out and the Blazers facing the challenges mentioned above I hesitate to predict a leap in win total, and maybe not even a flat-out improvement in win total.  However whatever the Blazers might miss by only achieving wins in the low-to-mid 50's should be balanced by the ordinal significance of that total.  Even 51-54 wins could be enough to win the division this year and provide homecourt advantage and an inside track to the second round of the playoffs.  Both of those goals are certainly within Portland's reach and should be achieved.  If a higher win total accompanies those achievements, all the better, but beating out Denver and Utah and then conquering the first playoff opponent are the main aims.  As long as Oden is healthy and reasonably spry that should happen.

--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)

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Great Timing!

Just boarded a plane from Madrid. I’ll get home to be at the RG tomorrow. Thanks Dave for the best plane reading material I could have hoped for.

by 52therim on Oct 26, 2009 2:00 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

you're set, man.

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by Y5k on Oct 26, 2009 4:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'll have to save this

for if/when I have nothing to do at work.

So stoked for the season!

--

by CaptainSexyJacob on Oct 26, 2009 2:04 AM PDT reply actions  

Nice preview

Can we get an official Dave win prediction and not a range? Put a number out there!

Oh, I think this sentence might be worded wrong (or maybe it’s late and my mind isn’t working well):

The Blazers trailed only the Rockets in fast break points scored per game.

It makes it sound like the Rockets and Blazers were the 2 best fast break teams in the league.

I think the following might be the best and most succinct analysis of the Blazer offense:

They are brilliant at running the offense as it stands but they also appear to have maxed out its production potential and it isn’t enough.

This is the reason many people were advocating Hedo (spits on ground). Something new was needed in the offense to bolster production because the defense will continue to be mediocre. Oden won’t provide (enough of) that boost. However, Andre and Oden together will. The offense will be ever harder to defend and less likely to sputter in some games.

by Magnum on Oct 26, 2009 2:19 AM PDT reply actions  

the defense does not have to be mediocre, and it shouldn't be

If Batum plays more minutes this year, greg stays on the floor, Brandon wants to focus more on defense (and I believe very word that he says) and Aldridge is more than capable of being dominant on the defensive end, then the Blazers should be above average defensively.

"The difference between a democracy and a dictatorship is that in a democracy you vote first and take orders later; in a dictatorship you don't have to waste your time voting"

"I don't like jail, they got the wrong kind of bars in there"
Charles Bukowski

by jpaulson on Oct 26, 2009 2:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oden won’t provide (enough of) that boost. However, Andre and Oden together will.

Unfortunately, they won’t be on the floor together at the beginning of each half, at least not at the beginning of the season. If Miller comes in for Blake at the 6-8 minute of the 1st-3rd quarters, that adds up to 12-16 mpg that Andre will be watching Greg wave for the post-entry pass while sitting on the bench. (and 12-16 mpg is roughly half of Oden’s total mpg)

also appear to have maxed out its production potential and it isn’t enough.

The Blake-Roy-LMA starting lineup has “maxed out” their offensive-efficiency potential. The best hope for offensive improvement will have to come from the bench unit

The best hope for improving the defense is to add another post defender and defensive rebounder to the roster

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Oct 26, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't literally mean Andre and Oden together on the court.

although, I do like Andre’s ability to throw lobs to Oden. I just meant 2 (more) guys providing more offense will be very beneficial.

I don’t think adding another post defender and rebounder is the best path for improving the defense. If Aldridge steps up his game I’ll be very happy, but I’m not counting on it. No, what the Blazers need is better perimeter defense, especially now that Batum is out.

by Magnum on Oct 26, 2009 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good Read

Spot on, Oden’s play will determine where this team goes.

by greg6582 on Oct 26, 2009 2:21 AM PDT reply actions  

rec

I can tell you how to make an Excel spreadsheet that proves Portland wins 62 games this year.

by jscot on Oct 26, 2009 3:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I mean, really

If you are going to drink Mtn. Dew, why diet? To cut the sugar? While you are eating chocolate mint patties? (Are those the soft white mints with chocolate coating?)

I can tell you how to make an Excel spreadsheet that proves Portland wins 62 games this year.

by jscot on Oct 26, 2009 3:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

peppermint patties?

"The difference between a democracy and a dictatorship is that in a democracy you vote first and take orders later; in a dictatorship you don't have to waste your time voting"

"I don't like jail, they got the wrong kind of bars in there"
Charles Bukowski

by jpaulson on Oct 26, 2009 4:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Or those chocolate mint things that you get at resturants?

the ones in those green rappers… mmm ok. I am going to the store now.

"The difference between a democracy and a dictatorship is that in a democracy you vote first and take orders later; in a dictatorship you don't have to waste your time voting"

"I don't like jail, they got the wrong kind of bars in there"
Charles Bukowski

by jpaulson on Oct 26, 2009 4:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Junior Mints?

http://www.cdbaby.com/Artist/Year5000

by Y5k on Oct 26, 2009 4:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

OHHH those are good too!

"The difference between a democracy and a dictatorship is that in a democracy you vote first and take orders later; in a dictatorship you don't have to waste your time voting"

"I don't like jail, they got the wrong kind of bars in there"
Charles Bukowski

by jpaulson on Oct 26, 2009 5:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

adding mint to chocolate is a waste of chocolate

let the mint lovers find their own source of chocolate…don’t mix ’em together and completely ruin the chocolate taste!

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Oct 26, 2009 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Andes.

Chuck Norris' tears cure cancer. Too bad he has never cried.

by FiveOhThree-RipCity!! on Oct 26, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

YES!! that is what I was thinking of!! thank YOU!!!

It has been bugging me for a while!

"The difference between a democracy and a dictatorship is that in a democracy you vote first and take orders later; in a dictatorship you don't have to waste your time voting"

"I don't like jail, they got the wrong kind of bars in there"
Charles Bukowski

by jpaulson on Oct 26, 2009 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Diet Mnt. Dew... Cont.

I almost recc’d the article simply because Dave said he was able to drink the stuff…

I accidentally grabbed one, and it tasted like very, very, angry water. I lasted 2 sips, and then gave it away.

"Don't put anything crazy in the papers. I'll find out who you are." -- Andre Miller

by Jeremiah S on Oct 26, 2009 8:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Convenient to have an enemy nearby to give it to

"Either way we have two phenomenal units. I'm excited to play with either one." - Martell Webster

by lee3022 on Oct 26, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'll have yours please

I can’t deal with the conventional Mt Dew. – Elgin

Without you out there, we're nowhere here

by 22baylor on Oct 26, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

must be an aquired taste

same thing with diet root beer and Mt. Dew “red zone” (which tastes like carbonated cough syrup)

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Oct 26, 2009 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I had that red stuff once when visiting the States. It was pretty bad.

I can tell you how to make an Excel spreadsheet that proves Portland wins 62 games this year.

by jscot on Oct 27, 2009 12:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also

“freezer-cured’?

is that a fancy way of saying freezer burnt?

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by jpaulson on Oct 26, 2009 5:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Freezing chocolate/mint combos is a total vet move.

My girls are in the scouts and I found this out on the very first cookie season. Our personal stash of thin mints went immediately to the freezer. Not being a chocolate mint fan myself, I can say in all honesty that I do like them much better ice cold like that.

by conspirator5 on Oct 26, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

blazers edge: powered by diet mt dew

I need to see if Beyond Bowie has resumed posting

by 50backflips on Oct 26, 2009 6:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

as a diabetic - Diet Mtn. Dew is a staple

don’t underrate the power of the overly-caffeinated soda water…..

by blacknoiseNW on Oct 26, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Half a No Doz is the superior option, IMHO.

I like caffeine.

I don’t like coffee. Don’’t like tea. Don’t like the aspartame aftertaste, either, and while I like the soft drinks, cutting the pure liquid sugar is one of the things I’m happilly successful about on the whole “eating healthy” thing.

A half a caffeine tablet is 100mg of caffeine, which is roughly equivalent to a 20z soda, and SO MUCH CHEAPER then all other ways you could possibly get your caffeine fix.

It’s funny, I know lots of coffee and soda junkies who are deeply reluctant to just take a tablet. Somehow, making a legal recreational drug LOOK like a drug suddenly makes people very uncomfortable.

by conspirator5 on Oct 26, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

The tempering of expectations in the win total is wise

but I’m still not buying it. Production around the league will change the dynamics of our game and I believe it will help us that more teams are competitive and thus our division and conference rivals will not have as many nights off. The hope is that wear and tear will think teams out over the year and the deepest teams will enjoy considerable advantage in post season. For all the factors mentioned to improve together might take an improbable perfect storm but probability that enough improve to take another jump seems reasonable. This team improved greatly after the all-star break last year and that curve has been injected with more talent while removing some weak parts.

I look to maintaining offensive rebounding, points in the paint, opponent FG% and turnovers in the 1st 10 games to gage the early progress. Curious as to what you look for?

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by lee3022 on Oct 26, 2009 2:40 AM PDT reply actions  

"think teams out" s/b "thin teams out"

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by lee3022 on Oct 26, 2009 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

40 hours 15 minutes and counting!

Can’t wait til the ball goes up! Woohoo!

Blazers win!

by The X-man on Oct 26, 2009 2:45 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Down to 34

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by hobobob on Oct 26, 2009 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have a very serious question...

Should we be expecting another “not shaving until” situation again? If they do, it should be until they make it out of the first round.. Also, will Andre join in?

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by jpaulson on Oct 26, 2009 2:49 AM PDT reply actions  

Defense is the key

Last season, the Blazers had a few games where they came out stoked against an elite opponent and got real aggressive on defense. They created turnovers, got easy baskets, ran up a big lead, and cruised to a win.

If they bring that kind of defensive effort more often, they’ll blow open a lot of games. That’s the right way for this team to pick up the pace and get more fast-break points – pretty easy to fast break when you steal the ball near mid-court.

Happily, Brandon Roy, the team’s unquestioned leader, is approaching this season with exactly that attitude; he says he wants to be named all-defense this year. If his play reflects that same commitment to defense, I think he’ll be able to bring the rest of the team along, and this team could become a real juggernaught .

Just watch.

by greenknight on Oct 26, 2009 3:41 AM PDT reply actions  

"A team never gets to avoid its obstacles."

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by Y5k on Oct 26, 2009 4:18 AM PDT reply actions  

Much better to steamroll them than to avoid, anyway

I can tell you how to make an Excel spreadsheet that proves Portland wins 62 games this year.

by jscot on Oct 26, 2009 4:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

100% agreed

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by Y5k on Oct 26, 2009 5:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Actually we do avoid some obstacles in the playoffs as good teams knock each other out

That is where we hope that the seeding gives us a clearer path.

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by lee3022 on Oct 26, 2009 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Preseason Greg remained (pretty much) foul-problem free

Returning referees may not love Greg as much as the pretend ones.

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by dvcastle on Oct 26, 2009 6:47 AM PDT reply actions  

doubt it

the replacement refs called so many more fouls than the regular ones, and I seriously doubt they singled out some old looking dude to make an exception on

by 50backflips on Oct 26, 2009 6:51 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

+92

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by 92wastheyear on Oct 26, 2009 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

What

The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out, burns out farms, and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.

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by faith on Oct 26, 2009 6:52 AM PDT reply actions   2 recs

rec

well said

I can tell you how to make an Excel spreadsheet that proves Portland wins 62 games this year.

by jscot on Oct 26, 2009 7:55 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

typical world leader crap....

say’s one thing, does another….

I’m still waitin for my rec on my last comment you said you’d be “rec” ’in ;)

Sure is a good thing you’re Administration isn’t depending on a majority vote. (asumin you’re goin about it full blown dictator style and obtaining power via coup… (did I spell that right?))

either way, I voted for bush 2wice so… convincin me to jump on your coat tails can’t be that hard. :)

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by faith on Oct 26, 2009 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

It’s there now, my mouse must have choked because I did click….

I can tell you how to make an Excel spreadsheet that proves Portland wins 62 games this year.

by jscot on Oct 26, 2009 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

I bow to Jscot, and happily will join your goon squad to eliminate your enemies :)

HA TAKE THAT SUCKER FISHES….how many of ya can say ya got 2 confirmededed rec’s out of The Supeme Fearless Leader!!! (I’m glowin right now, don’t ruin it for me)

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by faith on Oct 26, 2009 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

now I look like a dip wad... :( my rec wasn't ever there..... (was it?)

This new one is lyin to me too!!!! (thinkin of bush)

The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out, burns out farms, and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.

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by faith on Oct 26, 2009 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

eke... it's there...

JSCOT IS WISE AND GREAT!!

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by faith on Oct 26, 2009 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

rec

I can tell you how to make an Excel spreadsheet that proves Portland wins 62 games this year.

by jscot on Oct 26, 2009 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

rec

You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.

by austinpwnz on Oct 26, 2009 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Racking up wins in the West will be tough this year

I think the Blazers will prove to be a better team this year than they were last year, but that may not necessarily translate into more wins. Here’s why. The Western Conference as a whole is considerably better this year. Last year there were 9 good teams in the west and 6 crappy teams. The Blazers feasted on the 6 crappy teams, winning almost all of those games. But virtually all of those teams are more dangerous this year. OKC may not be in the playoff hunt yet, but they will beat good teams regularly. Minnesota has Al Jefferson back and will be well-coached. They’ll be better. The Grizzlies—while disfunctional and inconsistent—have much more talent than last year and will regularly upset the top teams in the conference. The Clippers now have all their guys healthy (and have Blake Griffin). They may actually contend for a playoff spot. Golden State is loaded with young talent. And I suspect that even the lowly Kings will be marginally better than last year’s version. So the easy victories are going to be hard to come by.

And among the “Big 9” in the West, most have improved. San Antonio will likely be significantly better. Utah, New Orleans, and Dallas should be at least marginally better. The Lakers and Denver will likely be as good as last year. And while I suspect both Phoenix and Houston will not do as well as last year, they will both still be decent teams. They’ll be in the hunt.

I guess another way to put this is that if the Blazers play as good as they did last year, they will likely win fewer games. In the West this year, you have to be better just to stay the same.

by UDUB on Oct 26, 2009 7:07 AM PDT reply actions  

Good analysis

One point that your response makes clear (and that I had forgotten) is that we racked up a lot of our wins last year against Eastern Conference teams. I don’t see why that can’t continue. With the exception of the top three out East (who look to be as good or better than last year), I don’t see the same kind of improvement out there.

by UDUB on Oct 26, 2009 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

You have a valid point, though

We owned the losing teams last year (exception: Golden State), and they were bad, and a lot of them are likely to be better. But we did drop a few against Western bad teams, and we’re not likely to do any worse, in general, against those bad teams. Worse against one or two, maybe, but perhaps better against others.

And there are some good teams that we struggled against (think Dallas) where we should make some real gains this year.

It really helps that the four teams we only have to play 3 times are LA, SA, NO, and Phoenix. It’s a lot better to get four against GS and Sacramento and three against LA and SA, than the other way around like it was last year.

I can tell you how to make an Excel spreadsheet that proves Portland wins 62 games this year.

by jscot on Oct 26, 2009 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

To expand on jscots points

expect Portlands road record to bewell over .500 this year & the Rose Garden to be a house of horrors for visiting teams.

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by We-B-Dunkin on Oct 26, 2009 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

We really owned the East last year.

A couple of surprisingly strong Eastern road trips in early to mid season set us up for a high win total.

by Blazin' on Oct 26, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, that's the challenge

I don’t have much doubt that we’ll do better against the West. But whether we can at least maintain, if not improve, against the East is another question. We didn’t really have a bad Eastern road trip last year.

I can tell you how to make an Excel spreadsheet that proves Portland wins 62 games this year.

by jscot on Oct 26, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wanna flag this, can I flag this now...

is it legit to flag on grounds of only disaproval?

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by faith on Oct 26, 2009 8:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

to the "last day of school" power

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by hobobob on Oct 26, 2009 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is it Tues yet?

Dave, that was excellent,great way to get us going.informative and thorough.We might also get the benefits of up and coming teams beating our rivals,so the win total might balance out.LaughingJon, I had the same thoughts today.Can’t wait to open the presesent-A win.

by DowntownVinnie on Oct 26, 2009 7:50 AM PDT reply actions  

Are you new?

Have I ever corresponded with you before.
 I look forward to adversities with our rivals. Last year a player might have said Oops I let that dude get by me this time, but no big deal. this year it might mean the lost of the game or put us down one notch on the totem pole

All the reading, all the speculation,and all the debates, (Dre who) are over now and it is time to get in the trenches. that is where it all begins.

hg

by BBK on Oct 26, 2009 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Stats need tweaking

Averages don’t say much in sports, frequency of given performances is probably a better measure of a teams effort. For example, the number of times a team exceeds a certain point total, or the number of times a player hits a certain point total is probably a better explainer of team performance than an average. I think if you look at Roy’s season you’ll see that he has quite of few single digit performances last season, while Kobe had quite a bit fewer.

Comparative statistical analysis would probably yield a different assessment of our team.

Roy needs to be a more consistent scorer: no single digit games
The blazers need to be better a three point shooting: too many nights were 3-pt duds
Blazers need to limit opponents to fewer number of good shooting nights: to often teams shot well against the blazers

by 7677maniac on Oct 26, 2009 8:04 AM PDT reply actions  

Berri and Hollinger and Pelton have done just that elsewhere

This is a primer for the rest of us and well presented imo. Score differential provides an easy barometer of the wins capacity (whether lucky or unlucky when compared with the results).

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by lee3022 on Oct 26, 2009 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

it would be nice if standard deviation was present alongside statistics more often

You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.

by austinpwnz on Oct 26, 2009 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wiin totals across the west will drop this year

There indeed aren’t nearly as many easy wins as there were last year. With the exception of the Kings and possibly Minny, all the bottom-feeder teams are better.

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by skywaker9 on Oct 26, 2009 8:32 AM PDT reply actions  

Better enough to win more consistently against the Blazers?

The Blazers got better as well. So did many of the upper-echelon teams. And, remembering the give-aways against the Clips, Warriors and Thunder last year, I’m guessing we can better last years win total despite mildly tougher competition.

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by hobobob on Oct 26, 2009 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

point differential

I think the point differential is probably not as good as it sounds. If you win a lot of games in blowouts that will up your point differential. To some degree it probably just shows that Nate is a bit more conservative about taking out the best players when the team has a big lead.

But how’s this for a gauge of how well the team is doing: Won/Loss record. On that basis they look pretty good.

In fact, they are probably already doing as well as they need to in all the statistical categories.

Their real challenge this year is how to be as successful in the playoffs as you are in the regular season. There doesn’t look to me to be any obvious strategy for how to do that.

by lsjogren on Oct 26, 2009 8:48 AM PDT reply actions  

Needs

1. Regular season — win some road games against winning teams. This breeds confidence for the playoffs.
2. Establish a greater low post offensive threat — check. That is a great strategy for improving chances in the playoffs.
3. Add another offensive creator to take some of the pressure off Roy — check. If we had Andre last year, we beat Houston. He and Brandon aren’t clicking yet, but it will come.
4. Add another offensive threat to the starting unit, which should help us get off to a quicker start in the first quarter — check and hopefully check. Greg is a threat, Nic hopefully will be more of one than last year.
5. Add a threat to get opponents in big foul trouble early — check. Greg Oden is going to draw a lot of fouls this year.

All that looks like a strategy for greater postseason success. It isn’t a question of strategy, but of execution.

Add to that an alleged commitment to defensive intensity led by Brandon (we’ll see if it happens), and you might really have something.

I can tell you how to make an Excel spreadsheet that proves Portland wins 62 games this year.

by jscot on Oct 26, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

After reading the workup in Basketball on Paper I have a healthy respect for point differential

It simply works over 82 games and all the variables.

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by lee3022 on Oct 26, 2009 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

there's a pretty good fanpost

here on bedge you should check out.

convinced me of the accuracy of point-differential in predicting future wins.

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by Marmaduke on Oct 26, 2009 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lakers

As far as how to succeed in the playoffs- I think it probably IS important to have a very good regular season record.

If the Blazers can run neck and neck with the Lakers in the regular season, that puts the world on notice that they intend to compete for the western conference championship.

Start establishing yourself as a bona fide rival to the Lakers, and that will help instill in the players a sense that is their desiny- to compete with LA for supremacy in the west. That should help bolster the confidence the team needs to be a true rival to the Lakers.

So, my thought is, aim to really stomp in the regular season, something that’s a realistic goal since it just requires incremental improvement over an awesome regular season performance, and nearly the whole team is moving toward the peak of their careers, not toward the twilight of their careers.

Hopefully in the 2nd year of an awesome regular season they will go into the playoffs with a lot more of a killer instinct.

by lsjogren on Oct 26, 2009 8:54 AM PDT reply actions  

It is nice to stomp but SA has shown that you rest your guys at strategic times to stay fresh for the playoffs

We had three rookies in the rotation for the playoffs who had never played more than ~40 games in a season. That tended to show against Houston (not the only factor). Is that an option for us?

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by lee3022 on Oct 26, 2009 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Let's rest our guys AND stomp

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by jscot on Oct 26, 2009 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wrong order...

You’ve got it all wrong, supreme ruler…

It’ll be STOMP… and then rest our guys…

by Visionary2 on Oct 26, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Unless you want the bench to do some stomping, too

but I take your point.

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by jscot on Oct 26, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Resting olds guys who (most importantly) have been there before is totally different.

You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.

by austinpwnz on Oct 26, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

schedule

People have pointed out the latter part of the Blazers schedule is a lot tougher than the earlier part this season.

That should be good. Clearly they still have some issues as far as getting the team running on all cylinders.

An easier schedule early in the season should help them rack up a decent won loss record.

Later in the season that tougher schedule should help them hone the toughness they will need going into the playoffs.

They had the best won/loss record in the NBA in the last stretch of games last season. However, a lot of those were at home and were agains lesser teams.

The tail end of the season is going to be tougher this time around.

by lsjogren on Oct 26, 2009 8:59 AM PDT reply actions  

Awesome!

"Either way we have two phenomenal units. I'm excited to play with either one." - Martell Webster

by lee3022 on Oct 26, 2009 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Utah

“Utah, I agree, but I still can’t favor them to win either game in Portland, so it’s a wash. N.O. we split last year, at worst we go 1-2 this year.”

The Utah games may be a good litmus test of how good the Blazers are. In the preseason, Utah proved itself to be clearly a better team. Not because of better players, but because they got their act together and the Blazers did not.

So long as the Blazers get their act together, they will be able to beat Utah. If they still lose to them in the regular season, then it will be a sign that the problems of integrating new players and of dealing with player logjams have been worked out. It’s not clear to me exactly how the logjams will be worked out, I have a hard time seeing a way for that to happen without trading away a couple of excess players in order to see to it that all players get the playing time they need.

I don’t care how many games they win, “playing for the team” doesn’t cut it as a complete answer to a player glut. An NBA player’s worth in the market is largely based on their individual stats. No player is going to have the drive to play at the top of their game if their role in the team doesn’t help their own individual career along with helping the team as a whole.

by lsjogren on Oct 26, 2009 9:07 AM PDT reply actions  

You are right that Utah will be a good litmus test

If we have our act together, we’ll beat them in Portland, and might make a run at them in Utah as well. If not, they’ll beat us.

As a side note, if you are responding to a particular comment, and click on “reply” immediately beneath it to type your response, it is easier to follow the conversation.

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by jscot on Oct 26, 2009 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Results-based analysis is a trap

Especially when the results are based on meaningless pre-season games where the opponent featured all of their assets, and we featured few of ours.

Results-based analysis goes something like this: Utah won, showing the better team – and therefore will win in the future.

Results-based analysis has no predictive value. It doesn’t show that we didn’t play our top players. Or, it might ignore extreme outliers such as we shot the ball extremely poorly for one game, turned the ball over extremely high for one game, etc. etc. – results that are not likely to be repeated and that will affect the outcome of the next game.

Ergo, the results from the Utah game and your subsequent analysis had no predictive value for the Phoenix game.

by blacknoiseNW on Oct 26, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, you're kind of straw-manning it, because it would be "therefore Utah will be more likely to win in the future"

Preseason is still fairly useless as a predictor, but that’s not really honest results-based analysis.

You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.

by austinpwnz on Oct 26, 2009 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whew....

…indepth and chuck full of analysis and information. This is why I try and stay low key most of the pre-season. I’m lazy enough to just let everyone else do the predictiong and analysis. I think arguement against a mountain of information like this would be like spittting a paper wad at a tank.

Having said that I’d like to add one observation that has gone mostly quietly unheralded. I think this could be a big issue as far as how good The Blazers can be this season.

Out of sight, out of mind, I haven’t heard much about Rudy Fernandez. Seems everyone has been so focused on how Andre may or may not gel with Brandon Roy that nobody has questioned how he might or might not gel with Rudy Fernandez. Webster, Oden, Miller and contract negotiations with both Brandon and LMA dominated the psyche of Blazer fans this summer and fall. But what about Rudy? How healthy is he? Has a full N.B.A. season and a long European run zapped the energy out of him? Plus I seem to remember hearing something to the affect that McMillan planned to allow Rudy to become more of a playmaker with the second unit. Well how does that happen if Rudy is playing with Miller? Doesn’t moving Miller to the second unit leave us with some of the same questions we had with Miller and the first unit and Brandon but you can substitute Rudy Fernandez for Brandon Roy?

My feeling is that it could work fantastically. I still remember the jaw dropping alley oops and back door cuts orchestrated between Rudy and Sergio. I have to think if Miller and Rudy can develop any chemistry at all between the two of them, that Miller would be even more adept at finding Rudy for similar plays. That’s the positive side.

On the negative side, if Rudy expected to become more of a playmaker and initiater of offense, I don’t think that is happening when Miller is on the court. Miller might be semi-accepting of playing with the second unit, but he’s not going to give up his PG role with the second unit to Rudy Fernandez. So I’m curious as to how this will work out. I don’t see it as a big problem, if Fernandez wasn’t expecting to be the defacto playmaker for the second unit. Miller makes players around him better and if he can gel with Rudy they could be a dynamite combination.

It’s just due to injury and fatigue Rudy has gone from a fan favorite and usual off-season focal point of fans to the biggest talent we have that has gotten little to no mention.

Oden, LMA, Brandon aside, I’ll be curious 6 weeks from now what is being said about Fernandez, Miller, and Outlaw because I think they will be better markers as to how this team is really doing. McMillan has made the decision to keep his first unit pretty much intact from last season with the swap of Oden for Przybilla the exception. So really the gelling and “tune-up” and adjustments are going to come from Fernandez, Miller and Outlaw…those are the players that are going to have to figure out how to play together and what their respective roles are going to be. Oden aside, the first unit just has to do at least what they did last season. If they can do that, and find a way to use and utilize Oden and allow him to emerge, they are set. The bigger questions come from our second unit.

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by Krang on Oct 26, 2009 9:19 AM PDT reply actions  

When Oden beasts won't everyone else gain easier sbots and look better?

Same for Andre with the 2nd unit. If he can bring it with those guys they will all look like starters.

"Either way we have two phenomenal units. I'm excited to play with either one." - Martell Webster

by lee3022 on Oct 26, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Few "quick thoughts" about the upcoming season.

There are three main areas I’d like to see us improve on this year.

Defending the fast break:

Many, many times last year I saw Nate frustrated with our guys not getting back on defense after missed buckets for fast breaks. After enough easy lay ins and dunks for the opposing team I noticed Nate started having guys get back on defense immediately after an attempted field goal. A few times we were running the floor way too early right as a missed shot hit the rim. We have to improve in this area. The answer isn’t to give up offensive rebounds in a panic, fearing a fast break. Our back court needs to stay dedicated and watch for teams to run so our bigs can continue gobbling up offensive rebounds. Overall this is one of Portland’s glaring holes on defense. Our offensive pace is so slow that I think guys are lulled into a slower rhythm overall and get stung at the other end. The “scouting report” on us encourages teams to push the pace. I’m very hopeful that Andre Miller is part of solving this weakness for us.

Defensive rebounding:

We were 27th in the league here. There are two guys who need to step up their game. Those guys are LaMarcus Aldridge and Travis Outlaw. If we’re going to run, we need rebounds for fast break opportunities. The good news is again, Andre Miller is rebounding point guard. He’s used to running the floor with a young-ish 76ers team. He will encourage guys along with Juwan Howard and I’m hopeful we improve here. I’m not even asking for top 10. But as a playoff team, we should at least be top 15. You simply don’t win playoff series as the 27th team in the league here. I’ve been talking to an older co-worker today and he seems to think poor defensive rebounding is an indication of youth. Maybe he’s right. But this team is growing up. I expect good progress here this season.

Mental errors:

One of the defining “characteristics” of a young team are mental errors. We’re lucky that we don’t make many of them. But I did notice last season when we had an off night, guys would let this stuff pile up. So much so that Nate needed to call early timeouts and settle guys down. Both of our point guards and especially Brandon Roy need to hold everyone accountable. It’s ok to make one mistake. But you can’t let someone else’s error drag the team’s effort down. Honestly it’s really ok to have a pass stolen every now and then. But basketball is largely about getting into a groove. One mistake leads to two or three errors and suddenly you’ve given up a 6-8 point run. This happens in baseball with bad pitchers. They give up a home run and suddenly the guy breaks down and gives up more runs. I’d like to see us stop playing “streaky” and show more maturity. Make a mistake? Fix it and move on. Don’t dwell on the negative. There’s plenty of time for review in practice.

If there was one single area of each Blazer’s game that I would like to see improve:
(Just gunna do the 1st and 2nd unit)

Steve Blake: Should learn how to better execute through passing on fast breaks.
Brandon Roy: I’d like to see him improve his defensive PER against tougher backcourts in the league.
Nicolas Batum: When you’re open, take the shot Nic. You don’t have to defer easy buckets.
LaMarcus Aldridge: Be more aggressive in the paint. Play above the rim when available.
Greg Oden: Play great defense without fouling.

Andre Miller: Learn to love Brandon Roy. Seriously man, bro it up. Hug it out. Whatever it takes.
Rudy Fernandez: Play with a little less erraticness. Make better decisions handling the ball.
Martell Webster: If you want to start Martell, get better on defense. Period.
Travis Outlaw: Yo man, you gotta get some rebounds!
Joel Pryzbilla: Continue helping Greg succeed and have a good attitude about bench minutes.

Regarding Hedo Türkoğlu:

Look at the bright side, Blazers fans -- you dodged a bullet. He peaked statistically two years ago. He's allegedly 30 but could be closer to 32 or 33 for all we know. (Do you trust Turkish birth certificates? And isn't it weird that he played four years of pro ball in Turkey in the 1990s?)

- Bill Simmons of ESPN.com

by halo_on on Oct 26, 2009 9:27 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Defensive rebounding
We were 27th in the league here

You need to look again. We were 27th in total defensive rebounds, but we got 75% of defensive rebounds, which is 6th. That’s a much more important number. The total number of rebounds is affected by how many possessions there are in a game. As long as we are getting 75% of the rebounds off of the opponents’ shots, and 32% of the rebounds off of ours, we are killing it on the boards. That means we are getting roughly 54% of the total rebounds (to our opponents’ 46%), which results in probably 5-6 extra possessions a game.

That’s not to say that we can’t improve here. But 27th is a lying statistic. We are a dominant rebounding team, we just play at a slow pace, which is why that number looks so bad.

I can tell you how to make an Excel spreadsheet that proves Portland wins 62 games this year.

by jscot on Oct 26, 2009 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that’s a good point. I guess a % does make sense when you look at Portland’s limited possessions. But as Dave said, I’m not sure we can go any higher without playing at a faster pace. I won’t claim we’ve hit our ceiling in the half court offense but we’ve gotta get up and down more. Just my opinion. Hopefully you’re right and as we have more possessions, that .750 figure remains the same. Not so sure about that though. I really believe for this season, defensive rebounding will be a bigger factor. It’s a whole lot harder to grab defensive boards when you’re a running team or at least trying to run more.

Regarding Hedo Türkoğlu:

Look at the bright side, Blazers fans -- you dodged a bullet. He peaked statistically two years ago. He's allegedly 30 but could be closer to 32 or 33 for all we know. (Do you trust Turkish birth certificates? And isn't it weird that he played four years of pro ball in Turkey in the 1990s?)

- Bill Simmons of ESPN.com

by halo_on on Oct 26, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

We're pretty close to the ceiling in the half court

We can get a little more efficiency by pounding it in to Greg a little bit — he’s going to be a very efficient scorer.

You are right that we can get some improvement by playing at a faster pace, but I’m not sure that means giving up rebounds. If we just consistently, every possession, run the ball up, it will make a difference. If everyone hustles up court, seams will open in the defense sometimes, which makes for an easy basket. If we don’t get an easy basket, we should just quickly move into our offense. If we have a better overall offense/defense per possession, it would be good to generate a few more possessions, perhaps by making each possession a second or two shorter. But we don’t have to abandon defensive rebounding responsibilities to do that.

Our biggest room for improvement, of course, is not rebounding or offense, but defense. If we have a good defensive team, we have a great team.

I can tell you how to make an Excel spreadsheet that proves Portland wins 62 games this year.

by jscot on Oct 27, 2009 12:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Your analysis seems very perceptive and inclusive - nice

and rec’d for the use of the word erraticness. Even the Urban Dictionary doesn’t know that one!

Nic needs to see every opponent as Pau and dunk on him, deny him the ball, play every play with the chip he has shown in flashes. Every point scored by his man is personal.

Brandon and LaMarcus move over for Greg a get part of your touches. When he beasts on offense the shots for you will come much easier.

Bayless is feeling hurt that you skipped him! His ability to drvie the lane and create fouls is very important as is his defense. Play lights-out defense and you will play 25 minutes a game.

"Either way we have two phenomenal units. I'm excited to play with either one." - Martell Webster

by lee3022 on Oct 26, 2009 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Diet Mountain Dew rules!!

Without you out there, we're nowhere here

by 22baylor on Oct 26, 2009 10:22 AM PDT reply actions  

I was just eyeballing the schedule

and trying to back up my optimistic homer 61-21 prediction.

Here are the Blazers’ win/loss splits after every five games:

5-0, 9-1, 12-3, 16-4
19-6, 22-8, 26-9, 29-11
32-13, 36-14, 40-15, 44-16
48-17, 53-17, 56-19, 59-21
Then winning the last two home games to go 61-21.

Obviously I am counting on a hot start and a torrid late Feb/early Mar. If we have only 19 losses on my birthday (March 31), that would be great. – Elgin

Without you out there, we're nowhere here

by 22baylor on Oct 26, 2009 11:06 AM PDT reply actions  

webster fans can count on him starting now that Batum is to have Shoulder surgery

Hopefully he breaks off the rust quick.

That is going to be somthing you have to consider when signing a Euro star…….they are gonna play year around and use your preseason and perhaps early season to get right.

Still Ill take him and poof* some of your minute problems are gone for a while.

by tevisthe4th on Oct 26, 2009 11:42 AM PDT reply actions  

It should cost euros dollars to do that.

I’d say a 25% hit on what they would otherwise be worth to their NBA team is reasonable. Write it into the new CBA, D. Stern.

by MiledAnimal on Oct 26, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

here we go!

Thanks for the preview. Right on the money. It will be fascinating to see what this team looks like tomorrow night. And I am glad we’re playing Houston. Adelman will throw the same defensive strategy at us. Will Nate McMillen have a response?

They are brilliant at running the offense as it stands but they also appear to have maxed out its production potential and it isn’t enough.

This is the premise that I have been operating under since last year’s playoffs.

Then, the question for us armchair quarterbacks is: Is a “disruption” inevitable, and what new offensive approach is mostly to raise the ceiling with this group of guys while minimizing the disruption?

by Blazin' on Oct 26, 2009 12:00 PM PDT reply actions  

New offensive approach?

Greg Oden dunking on their heads.

I can tell you how to make an Excel spreadsheet that proves Portland wins 62 games this year.

by jscot on Oct 27, 2009 12:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

:)

got to figure out how to get him the ball, but I hear that.

by Blazin' on Oct 27, 2009 1:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

how about the effect of offensive rebounding on offensive efficiency?????

Was that in there, or did I miss it???

Also – per Dave’s analysis – every team in the Western Conference is likely to have improved and therefore will be a tougher “out” (exceptions: Phoenix and Houston).

This cannot be. The West will have an identical number of wins and losses against itself, this season. The only thing that changes, year to year, is who gets a disproportionate share of the wins and losses.

Will we see a regression toward the mean (parity) with the top teams hording fewer W’s and the bottom teams fewer L’s???? It may be, but I’d bet my house the regression is minuscule, at most.

The reality is that improvement is all relative. Who improved at a greater rate relative to the competition???

I think the Lakers regressed with Artest. I might be wrong, however. And – I wouldn’t put any money on it. I think San Antonio got better at maybe the greatest rate of any team in the West. Will that translate to more wins? Yes, all things considered equal. However, if they suffer an unequal share of injuries, then No.

You could do that for every team in the West. All we know for certain is that it will be a Battle Royal for playoff positioning, and my expectations are for a Division title from Your Trail Blazers.

I reserve the right to amend my expectations for the playoffs as we move through the season.

by blacknoiseNW on Oct 26, 2009 12:47 PM PDT reply actions  

If by december

the blazers are 22-12 (a statistically significant sample) then that winning percentage will probably be the season winning percentage (52-30). I don’t see any teams exceeding 60 wins because the top teams will cannabalize one another so the Blazers should get into the playoffs.

I think this is a good number because early in the season the Blazer’s will struggle with Oden in the lineup and adapting to substitution pattern so the team will have a difficult time winning against the good teams but should do well with the teams that have no playoff chance ( the blazers schedule has 22 games with teams that were under 500 or just above through Dec 31).

by 7677maniac on Oct 26, 2009 1:27 PM PDT reply actions  

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