Quick talks with Miller
(I'm kind of surprised that no one has mentioned this article in the last few hours. I guess everyone else has a life and hasn't been over at O-live, tonight. So far, 'Dre Miller is saying "all the right things" about not being the starting PG:)
(FWIW, my "comments" are in parentheses)
"I think I've handled it fine," Miller said. "I haven't made a big fuss about it. It hasn't affected how I practice. I mean, it's just different. I didn't think it would happen at this point of my career. I think I'm still peaking. But that's part of the business. I'm not making a big deal about it."
"I think it pretty much comes down to how well the team played last year," said Miller..."You know, they won 54 games, or however many games they won last year. So if I was a coach, I probably wouldn't want to change that either."
(Roy's take...)
"Coming into the season, a lot of people had their doubts about me and Andre, and I wondered too," Roy said. "But I didn't think it would happen right away. And that's why I'm not panicking that it hasn't happened yet, or that we haven't clicked yet. To be honest I expected it. Because we are similar. I've come to realization that I'm better with the basketball, that's my strength. And I'm looking at it, and Andre's strength is with the basketball. So, I think it will work ... I just don't know how soon."
(And Nate's way of thinking...)
"(Miller) is still trying to learn our sets and how we want to attack, and basically playing the style we play," McMillan said after Thursday's exhibition game. "I want the ball in his hands. Him creating with that ball in pick-and-roll situations. He's still getting a feel for how we want to play."
When it was noted to McMillan that Miller appeared to be one of his better players during the preseason, the coach didn't disagree.
"Yeah, he's good. He's a pro," McMillan said. "He can really help us. We want him attacking, being aggressive, and doing the things he does."
(Here's the scary part, for those of you who want to see the second "unit" running the fast break, a lot)
Miller said that idea is fine, but during the preseason he never felt an emphasis or the ability to run much. Instead, Miller said McMillan "pretty much controls how the game goes from the bench."
"The same type of style they play here, I played in Philly, but we wanted to get the ball out in transition, whereas (in Portland) it's more of a controlled tempo," Miller said. "You know, play late in the shot clock. We can (fast-break) here, but that's not the style they want to play. I played this style in college for four years, so I think I can adjust to any style, it's just going to take a bit. Then everything will be all right."
(OMG, Andre is going to run the bench unit like they're the Utah Utes!? McMillian's Jedi mind control tactics seem to be working...)
"Actually, I feel like I'm a rookie right now," Miller said. "I'm still hungry, still motivated. Just a different situation. They have a way they want to play, and I feel I can play that way. You know, Coach has made a decision and I have to roll with it."
Miller called his preseason play "decent," mainly because he felt he should be in better shape. And he said he is already over the oddity of not being an opening-night starter.
"If anything, I'm going to play," Miller said. "If I don't play, I guess there is something wrong with me, or I'm not good enough. But I'm here to contribute and help the team. I'm not here to cause conflict."
(What? Me worry?)
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I read it, but was too lazy to post
If Nate doesn’t give Andre the green light to push the tempo with Rudy, Martell, and Outlaw, then he’s a fool.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
by douglast on Oct 23, 2009 9:17 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I kept telling people that Nate McMillan will ALWAYS run a slow-paced offense.
Stupid people have stupid ideas.
by AK1984 on Oct 23, 2009 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
For once I agree with Simmons.
He might have been the perfect coach for the 2007-08 Blazers, but not the 2009-10 version. The hands-on strategy works only for so long. Just a gut feeling: I think the Blazers will outgrow McMillan this season and stop responding to him. If it isn’t happening already. (And I keep hearing that it is.)
I don’t mind a slow paced offense, it’s just important to run when the opportunities are there. You don’t give away free points, which is what the Blazers have been doing far too often. The playoffs were also really disappointing. Nate just didn’t have it.
by Nick Van Excellent on Oct 23, 2009 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
Nate has a one year contract (by his own doing) he is gambling that if the team does better he can resign for a lot more (probably by making the Blazers compete with the Lakers for his services) if they do worse the Blazers Organization will find a new coach. My gut says Nates not here next year and I wouldn’t at all be surprised to see him in Laker gear (he was after all Mr. Sonic before joining the Blazers).
Trade players for picks and draft Cole Aldrich 2010
by jlarose78 on Oct 24, 2009 7:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did I miss a link?
Did Nate say he’s going to coach the team this year just like he did last year?
by tominhawaii on Oct 24, 2009 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He gave him a tentative green light early in the preseason.
I think it took all of about 3 turnovers in transition and us giving up boatloads of points while trying it for Nate to say no thanks.
He was never going to give it a real chance – he’s too focussed on limiting turnovers and playing fundamental, solid defense. Good things to focus on but in no way conducive to having a fast paced team or even just a running second unit.
by MadBlaze on Oct 23, 2009 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
*sigh*
you are leaving easy baskets on the table if you don’t run with that group. Andre will keep the TOs down once real games starts, have some trust in your new vet Nate.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
by douglast on Oct 23, 2009 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that is what I took from this...
McMillan has envisioned a second unit of Miller, Rudy Fernandez, Martell Webster, Travis Outlaw and Joel Przybilla becoming a multi-faceted force. He likes the pick-and-roll options with Miller and Przybilla, the team’s best at setting screens. And he likes the idea of Miller heading a fast-break with Fernandez and Webster — two athletic and sharp-shooting wings — spreading the floor.
Miller said that idea is fine, but during the preseason he never felt an emphasis or the ability to run much. Instead, Miller said McMillan “pretty much controls how the game goes from the bench.”
“The same type of style they play here, I played in Philly, but we wanted to get the ball out in transition, whereas (in Portland) it’s more of a controlled tempo,” Miller said. “You know, play late in the shot clock. We can (fast-break) here, but that’s not the style they want to play. I played this style in college for four years, so I think I can adjust to any style, it’s just going to take a bit. Then everything will be all right.”
As much as Nate talks about wanting to run more, he will never let it happen. Nate, for better or worse, is a control freak as a coach, even with a vet PG of 10+ years he won’t let them loose.
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by usmcr3049 on Oct 24, 2009 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why would you make 10 or so guys plus coaches change their game to fit one player?
by tominhawaii on Oct 24, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
better question
If you didn’t want to run in the first place, then why sign Miller?
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by two4larue on Oct 24, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Best Player Available(BPA)
That’s KP’s philosophy. He’s said it several times. He doesn’t worry about fit. He said on multiple occasions that fit is Nate’s problem. He praises Nate’s ability to use players, to take himself (KP) off the hook for fit.
He tried to get the Turk. Then Millsap. Then Lee. Then he reportedly talked with Odom’s agent at the last minute before making an offer to Miller. What do all those players have in common? Nothing. Just BPA on KP’s list.
Simmons was right. KP had $8M (or more depending on Euro renouncements) available in salary cap room for the last time in a decade and he wanted to use it to acquire an asset, regardless of how much PT they would have, and even if he traded them later as an expiring contract (Turk/perhaps Miller). It was use it or lose it with all that cap space, and acquiring a free agent meant they didn’t lose another playable/tradable asset while using it.
I think they knew very well that there was a risk that Miller wouldn’t fit well with Roy.
It’s obvious they both need the ball and want to initiate the offense. I said here the day before Miller arrived for his signing press conference that Blake would start with Roy, and Miller would play off the bench with Rudy. So what? Worst case they replaced Sergio with a player that’s immensely better. So what if Miller ends up a $7M/year backup? Millsap would have been an $8M/year backup for sure. Joel’s a $7M/year backup. Paul told KP to “go for it”, and they are.
Even if Miller never starts, who cares? He makes us much better just replacing Sergio and he will get a lot more minutes. Over time he and Roy will figure out the best way to be effective together and end up finishing games even if they never start together. In the extremely unlikely event that Miller simply can’t adjust to this situation we can trade him away next summer while he still has value. But I think he will adjust. He knows Roy’s the man here, not him. He’s never played on a team with this talent, and he’s never got out of the first round. Now he has a chance to play a key role on a team that with his help has a realistic chance to get to the finals during his tenure here.
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Oct 24, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is why I want Kevin Pritchard to shut his mouth about culture and learn a thing or ...
two about that thing called, y’know, ROSTER BALANCE! It befuddles me that a highly paid front office executive like Pritchard can be so flabbergastingly careless and have little to no regard about how to effectively construct a well-balanced roster.
Stupid people have stupid ideas.
by AK1984 on Oct 24, 2009 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BPA
If that was/is KP’s philosophy, he whiffed on Blair in the draft
I can use hindsight on KP, because I said this back at the deadline. The Blazer’s GM had a bad case of the “yips” last February and left “better deals” on the table because 1) he didn’t want to disturb the team’s chemistry and 2) he thought he could do better, in June-July
For example, he could’ve had Hinrich for RLEC and not much else. The Bulls were looking to make a deal to shed payroll and KP had the best money-making contract available.
Pritchard has shown the ability to make draft day trades and rebuild a playoff roster in short order. He deserves those props. But what has he done since winning the lottery…rearrange the furniture? He’s got a collection of players that he likes to look at, but won’t part with any of them unless he can “slap” the other GM. His roster is overloaded at the wing, and now he’s stuck with an extra PG that he really wanted to see playing in Europe.
Is it the law of averages that is catching up on Kevin, after he had that incredible “run” of good fortune in 2006-2007? Will it be enough to “leave the cake in the oven” for another season and see how it all works out? Or will KP learn (like RC Buford, Mitch Kupchack, Mark Warkentine, etc) that the rest of the contenders are improving their rosters, and just to hold your place (let alone win it all) you’ve got to make the hard roster decisions and move some of your prized possessions?
We won’t know the final answer until next April, but mid-February will be the acid test for KP. Here’s hoping he learned something, from last year’s deadline
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by two4larue on Oct 25, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he whiffed on Blair in the draft
Remember that Ben told us Blair was ruled out on a culture issue independent of his knees or talent. It better have been significant. But I wonder how it could be when nothing more has come out about this?
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Oct 26, 2009 2:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In the extremely unlikely event that Miller simply can’t adjust to this situation we can trade him away next summer while he still has value.
If Miller hasn’t “beat out” Blake for the starting job in a couple of months, and if a starting PG gets seriously injured on another contending team, I wouldn’t wait until the offseason to cash in on the “Andre asset”
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by two4larue on Oct 25, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that’s inaccurate. A lot of the Blazers are much more suited for an up tempo game… Rudy, Martell, Nico, Travis, LMA.
I really hope the games start streaming on Blazers.com soon.
If I had to term the present situation, it would have to be a series of unfortunate events.
by Cablinasian on Oct 24, 2009 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You comment is inaccurate in regards to my comment to usmcr3049 regarding Nate
As much as Nate talks about wanting to run more, he will never let it happen. Nate, for better or worse, is a control freak as a coach, even with a vet PG of 10+ years he won’t let them loose.
I’m sure Nate wants to run, but only when he trusts the guys on the floor. Miller wasn’t playing with Rudy and others in the preseason. When they get together, I’m sure Nate will let them run. He has that whole score in the first or last 7 seconds, or something like that.
by tominhawaii on Oct 25, 2009 6:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't have time right now to find it
but Nate made comments to the media after the Miller signing that he would let them run more because he had a PG who he could trust on the break. With these comments by Miller it is clear to me that Nate will never let his teams free, I’m not talking about PHX free, but for Portland to take the next step they need to get more easy buckets. Pushing the tempo after a miss or block is the easiest way to score points, and so far Nate doesn’t want to do that, eventhough he says he does, actions speak louder than words.
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by usmcr3049 on Oct 25, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is not about one player
it is about a young team that has the players to take advantage and score some easy points. This team needs to take the next step and become more than just a jump shooting team, they have the players. Miller is a big upgrade over Sergio for a second unit that features alot of athletes that should be great at running the floor for easy buckets. But to run you have to practice it, and eventhough I have no proof, I am willing to bet a bunch of cash that Nate spends very little time in practice on running the break.
Miller said that idea is fine, but during the preseason he never felt an emphasis or the ability to run much. Instead, Miller said McMillan "pretty much controls how the game goes from the bench."
This statement by Miller confirms that to me, if Nate really wanted to run like he says just about every training camp, then it would come across to the players, but Nate apparently is only talking to the media about it, not to the players.
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by usmcr3049 on Oct 25, 2009 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I can see your point
But I don’t think you need to practice fast breaks in the preseason. I think you need to practice fundamentals like the team defense and how to run the offense against a set defense, so the team will naturally knows what to do in the situations they will most likely find themselves in, after a rebound.
by tominhawaii on Oct 25, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you have to practice anything if you want to do it in game
It is not like players just naturally know what to do on a fast break to make it successful. Dwight Jaynes wrote awhile back about watching the early 90’s team run fast break drills in practice, but I have yet to hear of Nate’s blazers doing any, (ofcourse that might be done before the media is let in.).
If Nate really wanted to committ to running more, he would practice that as it is apart of the offense, so when they schedule time to run sets in the offense they would also schedule time to run break drills.
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by usmcr3049 on Oct 25, 2009 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Andre didn't start in the last game...
…but he logged more minutes than blake did. I hope Andre learns to embrace whatever role he takes here.
And it seems to me, it really isn’t about who’s the better point guard. It’s about chemistry – Blake and Roy have it already, and like Brandon points out in the article, Andre and Roy are almost redundant as starters (because they both play best with the ball in their hands). So, in a strange way, Andre doesn’t have to beat out Blake, he has to beat out Roy! Good luck with that one Andre…
For now, Andre gets to lead the best bench in the league. Our bench should routinely beat "their " bench. Yay!
by Igot D. Jones on Oct 23, 2009 9:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The Denver game
Because of foul trouble to Roy (and Andre’s desire to beat his old team) Miller played 16 straight minutes in the first half and 22 straight minutes in the 2nd half, including all of the decisive 4th quarter hwn the Blazers went on a 24-6 run to turn the game around (thanks in large part to Miller feeding Oden)
I doubt he can do that every night (like Havlicek used to, ‘way back in the day) but it’s nice to know that Andre could, during key WC road games, “extend” his minutes
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by two4larue on Oct 24, 2009 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I kinda like Andre with the 2nd unit.
Those guys could use a crafty scorer and a true point guard. There won’t be much “pure” 2nd unit (as in all 5 backups in at the same time) but I don’t think there is a better next 5 in the game. Andre has Przy hauling in the boards and throwing the outlet passes and then 3 shooters on the wings to hit on the break or on kickouts. Sick nasty.
by Magnum on Oct 24, 2009 1:17 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Who cares if we run?
You can’t say that running would make us more efficient. We were one of the most efficient offensive teams in the NBA last year without running at all.
More turnovers are equivalent to a 0% shot, by the way—in fact, worse, since you can’t get an offensive rebound. I’ll take a slightly lower percentage shot over a turnover any day, and pushing the tempo (resulting in more turnovers) just can’t produce enough high percentage layins to make up for it.
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by jamon51 on Oct 24, 2009 1:35 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You got it.
That’s one of the many reasons why I like a slow-paced offense.
Yet, even though Nate McMillan runs a simple, albeit efficient slow-paced offense, I’d rather have a coach who operates at a similar tempo and also gets the center (i.e., Greg Oden) more touches by calling plays for him. I want that coach be a defensive guru, too, which isn’t McMillan’s forte, ‘cause he’s a simpleton at coaching that side of the ball. As it is, I’d love to see Jeff Van Gundy — or maybe Mike Fratello — roaming the sidelines.
Stupid people have stupid ideas.
by AK1984 on Oct 24, 2009 7:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thibodeau as the lead assistant
Nate and Brandon are joined at the hip. A Blazer fan’s best hope for a defensive coaching upgrade is via Paul/KP making TomT the highest-paid asst coach in NBA history
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by two4larue on Oct 24, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, as long as Brandon's here, Nate's here as long as he wants to be here.
The reason we don’t run is as much because of Brandon as Nate. These guys were made for each other, and I mean that in the best possible way. They are both more successful because of each other.
But if Miller can demonstrate some success running with Rudy when Roy is out of the game, then I suspect Nate and Roy will loosen up some on running when Miller is in the game.
I don’t know if Nate would entertain upgrading his assistant coaching staff. But that seems like a realistic way to improve the team without disrupting the Nate/Roy relationship.
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Oct 24, 2009 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i missed the last preseason game
but am interested too in how la fit in with greg. i think la almost had to reinvent his game alittle this preseason with the new greg.
by riccc_l on Oct 24, 2009 10:08 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This is a young team
and Nate is coaching them, teaching them how to win in the NBA. He’s doing exactly the right thing. Why would you throw Nate under the bus for a player like Miller. Doesn’t make sense. Miller will play within the system because the system works; it delivers wins, it shares minutes, it manages the long season and it brings along young players. There are people on this site who really believe you can win a division or conference banner with 6 or seven guys but they are just wrong. It takes a full roster of quality players to get through the grind and Miller will never be more than a piece in this system. Now on his 5th team in 10 years it’s obvious he’s no more than a skilled journeyman player.
by oregonslee on Oct 24, 2009 10:48 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
playoff wins
that’s what Nate and KP will be judged by. 54 regular season wins meant nothing, after game 1 against Houston was lost. The strategy to not front Yao in that game is completely on Nate. He needs to “step his game up” next April. If the Blazers go “1 round and out” again, there will be even more fans willing to throw McMillian “under the bus”
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by two4larue on Oct 24, 2009 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There will be times during the season where this team will look flat
offensively. Unlike Sergio, Miller will be able to come in and will his way to the free throw line or make that momentum changing pass to one of our bigs to get the front line re-energized.
Miller will be fine – and most importantly, the Blazers will be fine.
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by Net Ranger on Oct 24, 2009 11:43 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Miller will be able to come in and will his way to the free throw line
This is a huge plus. Miller shot 400+ FTs last year. Blake shot 75. Sergio shot even less. One of my lasting memories of Terry Porter was how during big playoff games when the Blazers needed to score, TP would put his head down and drive the lane and force the defense to foul him. Then he’d make both FTs. Miller can be the same kind of late game “assasin” as TP was (just not from behind the 3pt line…)
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by two4larue on Oct 24, 2009 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last year Miller and Iguodala put a whipping on us
he’s an excellent player. It’s wierd though, for the guy who was all I’m gonna let my play do all the talking and I like to go it alone he seems to be doing plenty of talking. It also doesn’t reflect much satisfaction with his situation. I think Bill Simmons was right this was a bit of mismatch from the social point of view. We were not exactly each other’s first choice. He’s an excellent player, with a chip on his shoulder.
by oregonslee on Oct 24, 2009 5:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Andre Miller fits better alongside Andre Iguodala than Brandon Roy because "Iggy" can play off the ...
without any real difficulty. Last season, Roy was assissted on 33% of his field-goal attempts; conversely, Iguodala was assissted on 51% of his field-goal attempts. Iguodala is also a superior cutter on offense compared to Roy, which makes Miller’s job easy from a distributor standpoint. Now, with regards to why Roy had trouble against the Philadelphia 76ers, it’s clearly due to Iguodala being a world-class defender — which Roy isn’t under any circumstances — so it was quite simply game, set, match.
Stupid people have stupid ideas.
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