Smith: Collins In Street Clothes, Udoka Meets With Nate
by Ben. on Oct 21, 2009 1:05 PM PDT
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Brian T. Smith with some interesting speculation in his practice notes...
Udoka was then approached by Jarron Collins - who, like Udoka, is trying to win the team's 15th and final roster spot. Collins, who was wearing street clothes, walked up to Udoka, whispered something in his ear, and then walked away. Udoka looked caught off guard by the conversation, as did the Blazers assistant coach working with him. Meanwhile, Collins walked off the court - head pointed downward - waved and walked into the team's locker room. As soon as Collins left, Blazers coach Nate McMillan walked out, and said he needed to speak with Udoka. Practice was then closed.
But where was Patty Mills?!?!?!?!
Neither Udoka nor Collins looked particularly good last night, but Collins really struggled. 3 points, 3 boards, 5 fouls in 25 minutes and he was pushed around pretty thoroughly by his old Jazz mates.
Be sure to click through to Smith's blog for KP's reaction.
-- Ben (benjamin.golliver@gmail.com)
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Too bad for Jarron
Wish him the best of luck.
Now, hopefully we can GIMME IME!
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
by skywaker9 on Oct 21, 2009 1:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The only good thing about being 'laid off' in the NBA...
Is that unless you really suck… someone will pick you up. I guess it would stink to almost make the roster of a quality team. I mean…Adam Morrison got a ring… how unfair is that?
by tmundal on Oct 21, 2009 1:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
When you're 30 and haven't seen 12 minutes a game since 06...
it sucks to be you. No way around it.
Hopefully he’s been saving his pennies.
by levelhed on Oct 21, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
True....
Still… the nba minimum is way more than I’ll ever make…and you get good seats!
by tmundal on Oct 21, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The minimum for a single year will set you up for life
…if you manage your money well.
Disclaimer: everything I know about basketball I learned on Blazersedge.
by pualo on Oct 21, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
really?
I’d happily spend the last 3 years sitting on the bench for $700k per year, and in no way would I think “gee, it sucks to be me”
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
by douglast on Oct 21, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It still would, if your dream was to be the next Hakeem.
by MiledAnimal on Oct 21, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's when being thankful for what you have
Becomes more important than lamenting what you don’t.
if you watch Rambo in reverse, Sly is healing everyone with his magical, bullet-sucking vacuum
by Tyler Durrden on Oct 21, 2009 2:29 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
This is ALWAYS important
I can tell you how to make an Excel spreadsheet that proves Portland wins 62 games this year.
by jscot on Oct 21, 2009 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Keep Mills
Udoka won’t see the court unless THREE of our wing players are all hurt at the same time. I’d rather keep Patty for the future potential to turn him into a change of pace backup and/or a future draft pick.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
by douglast on Oct 21, 2009 1:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Its a tough call
But gambling on the upside of Mills might make more sense. Otherwise maybe just keep the 15th spot open.
by JasonT on Oct 21, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
and I have a sentimental investment in Udoka for what he gave to the blazers 3 years ago. If you are going to fill the 15th spot and pay for a player that will likely not see the court in any meaningful minutes all season, I say keep Mills and see how he develops…
by Rudiculous on Oct 21, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mills would never see the court.
More than THREE players would have to go down.
PG depth chart
Miller, Blake, Bayless, Roy, Rudy, Howard, Mills
Mills just isn’t a very good point guard. Much worse than his Olympic performance would suggest and especially bad in half court sets. There is a good chance he doesn’t even stick in the league much les on this team. At least Udoka improves defense and gives you some flexibility to make trades.
by Nick Van Excellent on Oct 21, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
of course he won't
but it’s not about this year, it’s about looking at his potential down the road. Udoka is only getting worse. Mills can be given some time in the D league once he heals, and perhaps turned into at least a 2nd round pick. You won’t get that out of Udoka.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
by douglast on Oct 21, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It doesn't matter.
Wanting to have Mills on the roster is like wanting to have Taureen Green on the roster. (Green might be a little better actually)
He has no potential down the road. Zero. Zip. Not going to happen. It would be better to keep the roster spot open for flexibility. This is the worst sort of team for him and he’s not very good in general. The fact that he broke his foot probably kills any chance of him sticking in the league ever. His only talent, running down the court quickly in a straight line, isn’t doing much for anyone since he can’t finish at the rim.
Poor defender, poor passer, really god-awful at finishing at the rim, small, can’t draw fouls at all, poor three point shooter, bad shot selection.
Patrick Mills is a nice guy who will never, ever, ever play for the Blazers. If he had potential it would be a slightly different story, but he doesn’t.
by Nick Van Excellent on Oct 21, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You've probably seen this before, but
At about the 1:30’ mark, Patty scoots by Deron Williams, making him look about as fast as Mark Eaton. No way Taurean Green ever showed that kind of speed. If Mills can learn the PG position (and we’ve seen repeatedly that this is no easy thing for players not already possessing the knack) and work on his 3-pt shooting, then he might eventually assume a sort of Aaron Brooks role for the team.
by CatMan2 on Oct 21, 2009 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've seen that game twice.
And I’ve actually posted that clip before. It is an amazing burst of speed. I love him. I think he’s an interesting person and has a fun game to watch.(sometimes)
If Mills can learn to finish around the rim, shoot the basketball, pass, run the offense, draw fouls, and defend at all, then he might have a shot at being a 2nd string PG on a bad team. Aaron Brooks is the exception to the rule for players that small and he’s miles and miles ahead of Mills in every singe category.
Imagine a tiny version of Bayless who can’t finish around the rim or draw fouls and is a much worse defender. That’s Patty Mills.
by Nick Van Excellent on Oct 21, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Poor defender, poor passer, really god-awful at finishing at the rim, small, can’t draw fouls at all, poor three point shooter, bad shot selection"..."I love him"
I’d hate to see what you would say about him if you didn’t like him.
I think there have been some snap judjgements about Patty based on the injuries, low assists and low 3 pt shooting. In college he played very aggressively and sometimes out of control. I think he’s a better shooter than the 3 pt % indicates when he is able to calm down. IMO his shooting form is far better than most guys on the team now with only Rudy and Web being purer. Certainly his game needs a lot of maturing, but I think its too early to say he’ll never amount to anything as a player.
by JMoon on Oct 21, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Patrick Mills had the lowest logged shooting percentage at 36%, and the fact that he took 3.3 contested looks from the outside per game (1st) may have played a role in that… For as fast as Mills is, he got to the rim at an average rate and really struggled to convert once there. He also ranked last for the percentage of possessions he was fouled on—just 5%.-DraftExpress
He’s just not a good PG, which is bad enough, but he’s also really small and not great at scoring either, so it’s not like he’s a good undersized 2 guard either.
I like him as a person. It’s pretty bad-ass that he did so well against team USA and his speed is undeniable. He should become a runner.
by Nick Van Excellent on Oct 21, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is funny to me
he is apparently one of the most unskilled people to ever be signed to an nba contract, considering he doesn’t even have size, according to you. yet the blazers front office saw fit to draft him and apparently have narrowed it down to a guy in Udoka (who, if the Spurs don’t need him, I don’t see why the Blazers would) and the talentless, tremendously undersized Mills.
by pdxlifer on Oct 21, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly.
He was drafted with the 25th pick in the second round. That’s not exactly showing tons of faith in him. He had a tiny chance of making the team after he spent a year playing overseas.
With his broken foot he has probably has no shot of making this team or any NBA team really. I like him, but he’s the worst PG prospect I can remember the Blazers drafting in a long time.
by Nick Van Excellent on Oct 21, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting...
I thought Collins had the inside track. With Rudy and Nic dinged/Travis struggling/Martell coming off a major injury, the SF logjam suddenly doesn’t seem so tight. I’m a sucker for young guys with upside, so I’m still leaning Mills over Ime, but Ime might be the guy. Either way, I will be fine with whoever gets the 15.
I hate Comcast.
Card carrying member of Team Bayless
I believe in Greg Oden
by blazeraddict on Oct 21, 2009 1:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I knew it
This is all part of KP’s master plan to be revealed later, once you throw in the way he tricked Utah and Toronto this off season, he’s turning into an evil genius. What will that guy do next? I think this is part of his plan for Paul Allen to buy a D-League team.
by tominhawaii on Oct 21, 2009 2:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Rubbish
The plan is to buy a Euro team to stash our draft picks, make sure they learn Nate’s system, and have cheap buyouts.
We’ve already got a point guard, center-forward, and forward in Europe. We’ll have the best record this year, so Paul Allen can’t buy anyone’s #30 pick this year, because it will be ours. So he’ll buy another #27 or 24 or something and we’ll draft another Euro or two.
I can tell you how to make an Excel spreadsheet that proves Portland wins 62 games this year.
by jscot on Oct 21, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You mean by turning the Blazers into a D-League team?
by CatMan2 on Oct 21, 2009 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Naw
Mills is can develop into that back up banger the Blazers need in the D-League and they’ll be so dominant that PA will buy them and move them to Seattle.
by tominhawaii on Oct 21, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, it's a well-known fact that
Australia’s indigenous youngsters often undergo a delayed growth spurt. Evonne Goolagong, for example, was 5’6" during here early tennis-playing years, but had shot up to 7’3" by the time she won her first Wimbledon. You could look it up!
by CatMan2 on Oct 21, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Correction:
Patty Mills is not an “indigenous Australian.” He is an indigenous Torres Strait Islander. Natives of the Torres Strait Islanders are ethnically distinct from Autralian aborigines. This is quite evident in Patty Mills’ physical features. His hair is “wooly” or “nappy,” unlike Australian aborigines (whose hair is straight) and he doesn’t have any of the common facial characteristics of Australian aborigines.
If Mills stays on the Blazers or signs with another NBA team, he will NOT be “the first Australian aborigine in the NBA,” as many people have proclaimed.
To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead. -- Thomas Paine, US patriot & political philosopher (1737 - 1809)
by Love on Oct 21, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dang! This is really bad news!
I recall now that natives of the Torres Strait not only DO NOT go through that growth spurt, but they actually shrink a bit in stature and roughly double in weight as they enter their early 20’s. Can it be that the Blazers didn’t do their homework here?!?!?!
by CatMan2 on Oct 21, 2009 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That makes a lot more sense to me then
I was like “uhh… he sure don’t LOOK like an Australian Aborigine…”.
Glad to know my eyes don’t lie still.
M—
by Mortimer on Oct 21, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Technically, Patty Mills is 50% Torres Strait Islander and 50% Australian Aborigine.
Yet, no matter Mills’ ethnicity, NVE is correct to point out he’s highly overrated by fans — although most basketball scouts are thankfully more honest about his lack of potential and weak skill set — thus, I still fully expect him to be waived in the coming days.
Stupid people have stupid ideas.
by AK1984 on Oct 21, 2009 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you.
It’s a sad day when AK1984 is the only one who agrees with me.
by Nick Van Excellent on Oct 21, 2009 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently KP doesn't agree, either....
I can tell you how to make an Excel spreadsheet that proves Portland wins 62 games this year.
by jscot on Oct 21, 2009 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm, you may have to climb a few rungs further up the ladder this time.
Once you move on past Larry Miller, Tod Leiweke, and Bert Kolde, you’ll find the guy you’re looking for here. As a hint, his initials are none other than P.A.
Stupid people have stupid ideas.
by AK1984 on Oct 22, 2009 1:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like he does actually.
by Nick Van Excellent on Oct 22, 2009 5:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, he drafted him
which obviously means he thought there was a chance he’d be a player.
And we have absolutely nothing except speculation that this wasn’t KP’s decision.
I can tell you how to make an Excel spreadsheet that proves Portland wins 62 games this year.
by jscot on Oct 22, 2009 6:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah.
They thought he would be over seas. So… maybe they thought he would be a player in a year or two, just like Koponen.
by Nick Van Excellent on Oct 22, 2009 6:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I don’t think they thought he would be ready to be a player this year, and they still don’t. It was a gamble on future potential, but the point was that KP is undoubtedly a little higher on him than you sound, or he wouldn’t have drafted him.
The reason they kept him is not clear, of course. If it wasn’t for basketball reasons as was reported, then this whole discussion is moot. If it was for basketball reasons, clearly they decided they don’t want to give up on the gamble yet.
I can tell you how to make an Excel spreadsheet that proves Portland wins 62 games this year.
by jscot on Oct 22, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe the storm last night
started the trade winds blowing. And we just have to wait and see what KP is up to.
Preseason is showing again, that injuries and fouls happen to Greg and Joel. Face it, and plan for it.
I’d be happier with Mills or Udoka getting the 15th spot, if they were 7 feet tall. Howard will help, but I prefer one more 7 footer to another log jam.
It’s October, but think June . Go Blazers !!!!
"That's just how I get down"........ Andre Miller
by FrenchieFan on Oct 21, 2009 2:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
sounds like jarrod is gonna get the 15th spot........
kidding
by 64-18 on Oct 21, 2009 2:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Quick on 95.5 now
the 15th spot is going to Patty Mills. Udoka and Collins will be waived tomorrow
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
by douglast on Oct 21, 2009 2:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Nate doesn't like this move
it’s being said as a non-basketball related move. Word is this decision is coming from “higher up than KP”
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
by douglast on Oct 21, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What is a non-basketball related move?
Talkin about money?
by CatMan2 on Oct 21, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
perhaps
Quick speculated it was either money or someone upstairs really likes Patty
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
by douglast on Oct 21, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Paul Allen is The Man Upstairs
He has evidently taken a shine to Patty. He also took a shine to Sergio. Maybe he has a point guard fetish.
Yeah well it’s his set of toys and he can play with them however he wants.
Turns out that Patty is the bane of Ime’s existence. Were it not for Patty (and Paul Allen’s PG fetish), Ime would have a job with the Blazers this year.
To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead. -- Thomas Paine, US patriot & political philosopher (1737 - 1809)
by Love on Oct 21, 2009 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Paul Allen is again making basketball-related decisions, then he's a freakin' imbecile.
Stupid people have stupid ideas.
by AK1984 on Oct 21, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The money seems insignificant, $825K vs $458K is $367K
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Oct 21, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
insignificant?
please send a similar insignificant amount of money my way. I imagine you’ve got a couple hundred thou between the couch cushions somewhere, by the sound of it.
oh man, I think I'm average like, ten points, like, twelve, thirteen dimes, like two, three assists, and about four, five rebounds, and if we need me to play, play a different position, I might get a little bit more.
by abdelnaby on Oct 21, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cool. 4 point guards, 2 more guards who can play the position, and big trouble if one of the big big 3 goes down.
"I think he can still play" - Kevin Pritchard on Juwan Howard
by Norsktroll on Oct 21, 2009 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
more per Quick:
Collins is going to Phoenix Suns
Udoka has 2 or 3 teams lining up for his services
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
by douglast on Oct 21, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow.
this is borderline shocking.
I don’t like it at all.
by jksnake99 on Oct 21, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not shocking, really
The front office apparently has concluded that Mills is more valuable, long term, than Udoka or Collins. And apparently the front office has also concluded that the short term rewards of keeping either Collins or Udoka are outweighed by the long term rewards of keeping Mills.
Maybe it’s just me, but the foregoing reasoning seems quite sound. Sure, reasonable minds can disagree on either of the foregoing conclusions, but it is a stretch to say that a reasonable mind can truly be “shocked” by this decision. Funny thing is, snake, you’ve always struck me as a reasonable person. So I gotta say I am shocked by your reaction.
To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead. -- Thomas Paine, US patriot & political philosopher (1737 - 1809)
by Love on Oct 21, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's being reasonable, though. The disgusting thing here is somebody in the Portland Trail ...
Blazers organization — whether it’s Kevin Pritchard or maybe Paul Allen himself, which’d be awful if the latter is once again interjecting his power in matters where he’s shown by past failures (e.g., Darius Miles) to be an ignorant moron — actually thinks that this diminutive waterbug, Patty Mills, is nothing beyond a currently injured scrub who’s best-case scenario ultimately is something like an undersized off guard such as Jose Barea or Chucky Atkins.
Stupid people have stupid ideas.
by AK1984 on Oct 21, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate it.
We just cut Udoka for a poor man’s Taurean Green.
by Nick Van Excellent on Oct 21, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
so?
Udoka wasn’t going to play any meaningul minutes for us anyway. Unless of course we had massive substantial and simultaneous injuries.
Meh, who cares I say
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
by douglast on Oct 21, 2009 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It remains to be seen if Mills actually plays for us.
I suspect (hope) this is more about money and flexibility.
by Nick Van Excellent on Oct 21, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love this move
Ime or Jarron would have made no difference to our ability to compete for a championship this year unless we get really unlucky with injuries. Patty is no different in this regard but the kid does have talent and his speed with the ball gives him at least one NBA ready skill.
I see a move to consolidate coming early in the season. Not necessarily because of this decision but really just because I want to see it happen. Is that a good enough reason? Lose TOSBEC for a good PF/C – that makes more difference to our ability to compete in the playoffs than Ime or Jarron would have.
by MadBlaze on Oct 21, 2009 3:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Didn't PA fall in love with Telfair, too?
"Ain't nothin' in this world for free."
by Arby on Oct 21, 2009 3:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
However Nate fell in love with Green. Oh wait...
"I think he can still play" - Kevin Pritchard on Juwan Howard
by Norsktroll on Oct 21, 2009 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, the dude has a PG fetish
He collects their itty-bitty little shoes and licks them when no one is watching.
To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead. -- Thomas Paine, US patriot & political philosopher (1737 - 1809)
by Love on Oct 21, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He just wants to be taller than an NBA player
by Mortimer on Oct 21, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's days like these I'm glad to be well over 6'0" tall.
Yet, being able to stand face-to-face and lock eyes with Steve Blake isn’t an accomplishment, as I’d still be dwarfed by gargantuan guys such as Greg Oden, Joel Przybilla, et al. Anyway, how tall is Paul Allen? I’m now curious to know the answer.
Stupid people have stupid ideas.
by AK1984 on Oct 21, 2009 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Question: does the Mills salary come off the books along with that of Claver, etc.
if he signs with a Euro team? Then, it’s a little bit more $$$ to bundle with somebody for a mid-season trade.
Not that I’m personally hoping for such a trade. Just askin’ …
by CatMan2 on Oct 21, 2009 3:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Could be.
And that would actually make sense. If they want to save money to clear space I’m all for it.
by Nick Van Excellent on Oct 21, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a tiny difference in cap space. $825K vs $458K is $367K more cap space.
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Oct 21, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You try telling that to Bev in human resources
Her job depends on that price difference.
by Mortimer on Oct 21, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
screw Bev
she’s probably one of the people who negotiated the Comcast deal!
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
by cloudydays on Oct 21, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the organization truly wanted to clear cap space, then the 15th roster spot would be empty.
Stupid people have stupid ideas.
by AK1984 on Oct 21, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, though of course not if he actually signs the contract and takes the roster spot.
Then all the Blazers could do is waive him (assuming it’s unguaranteed money).
"I think he can still play" - Kevin Pritchard on Juwan Howard
by Norsktroll on Oct 21, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Confused and contused
I thought the Blazers actually signed, for example, Petteri Koponen. How do you sign somebody and yet they are NOT on your roster?
by CatMan2 on Oct 21, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was he ever in our training camp?
I don’t THINK he was but I may be wrong…
M—
by Mortimer on Oct 21, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, he played in the summer league last year. Not the same thing?
by CatMan2 on Oct 21, 2009 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
Petteri, Claver, and Freeland are unsigned first round picks. There are currently only seven players with that status afaik, the other ones are Splitter for the Spurs, Ibaka for the Thunder and Vazquez for the Magic and the French 7 footer Vince Carter dunked on during the Olympics who will never make it to the NBA :)
Mills and crusty old Kammerichs and Sinanovic are unsigned second round picks (well, Mills was until/if he took the contract tender). You retain their rights by making them a minimum salary contract offer every year for at least 1 year unguaranteed. Their salary is not counted towards the cap until they sign, and you can do that as long as they are pro players somewhere + 1 year.
Unsigned first round picks are included in team salary immediately after the draft depending on where they were picked (scale amount from 1 to 30). If such a player signs with a team outside of the NBA instead (or still had a contract there), his salary is excluded on the first day of the regular season and comes back on at the start of the next offseason or when his contract ends.
"I think he can still play" - Kevin Pritchard on Juwan Howard
by Norsktroll on Oct 21, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
pretty sure he already signed it
which is what forced this move to begin with
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
by douglast on Oct 21, 2009 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the move...its a 15th roster spot after all
It wasn’t like Ime or Jarron were going to suddenly blossom. We know what they are. Patty may develop into a player, or he may not. For the 15th spot I’ll go with potential and possible.
Pritchard’s comment when he was drafted was “he’s got a passport.” Does Patty need one for Boise?
by JMoon on Oct 21, 2009 3:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, there ARE those successionists in Idaho, you know ...
by CatMan2 on Oct 21, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The secessionists are succeeding???
:)
I can tell you how to make an Excel spreadsheet that proves Portland wins 62 games this year.
by jscot on Oct 21, 2009 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
From http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Successionist:
Suc`ces´sion`ist
n. 1. (Eccl.) A person who insists on the importance of a regular succession of events, offices, etc.; especially (Eccl.), one who insists that apostolic succession alone is valid.
The sect in Idaho asserts that time, as a monotonic and unidirectional axis of the space-time continuum, is not subject to discontinuities even within the Schwarzschild radius of a black hole. This position has put them at odds with Pres. Obama’s science advisor, and consequently they have had to go underground (to measure properties of neutrinos.)
by CatMan2 on Oct 22, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I GOT IT ALL FIGURED OUT!
Price of a Maybach 57: $367,000
http://www.squidoo.com/CarsTop10
Someone “upstairs” just wants a new car.
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
by cloudydays on Oct 21, 2009 3:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
good riddence
as bad as we need another big man, jarron really did SUCK! gonna be rough for him in phoenix if channing keeps having big games. hopefully we can trade for someone good.
by riccc_l on Oct 21, 2009 7:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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