Blazers to Stream Games (Sort Of)
Today the Portland Trail Blazers announced that they will offer a limited schedule of games to their online audience through the miracle of streaming video. Before you heave a huge sigh of relief, it's pretty clear that this is a baby step in the process of making games available. To wit:
The Limitations
Only 15 games will be offered, all of which will already be shown on KGW. You can click on the link above for the specific games in question. Why only KGW games? The Blazers could negotiate a contract to do so. They have not reached a deal with Comcast Sports Net. They offer this carrot, however:
At this point, the Blazers are in direct discussions with Comcast on a partnership that would bring the entire CSN NW cable package online. The time frame to work out those logistics is November/December. The expectation is that by the first of the calendar year, we would be able to provide those games online in partnership with Comcast.
Only viewers within a 150-mile radius of Portland will be able to view the games. This is due to NBA regulations. However viewers outside that radius already have the option of watching all Blazer games on NBA League Pass Broadband.
Games are not archived and must be viewed live. They cannot be viewed on a mobile phone.
As anyone who's ever streamed anything online knows, technical issues are inherent in the process. Most viewers will not be able to determine whether Shaq is posting in the lane or the video player is buffering. They look eerily the same.
Combined this reduces the utility of the service to a particular group: those who live within 150 miles of Portland, who do not receive KGW, who are interested in the specific games offered, and who are at a reasonably competent computer during the game itself. Again...baby steps. A very small baby. Wearing bronzed shoes. Walking on tar paper. On Jupiter. But it's something.
The Advantages
If you're one of those folks in that particular group and have a good enough computer and reliable internet service you get to see 15 Blazer games you wouldn't have otherwise. They're also high-def, being on a computer and all.
Also the Blazers themselves advance the possibility of value-added material during games. No doubt this will be limited at first but one can easily forecast a time when, in addition to the regular broadcast team, you could interact with online commentators, get comprehensive stat updates, and chat live. This is probably the most exciting potential for the project.
As you can see, the limitations far outweigh the benefits at this juncture. The service will only become viable if and when the team cuts a deal with Comcast for the remaining games. At that point it becomes a much-needed addition to the Blazer Broadcasting arsenal...imperfect, but at least an opportunity for some to catch games they otherwise are shut out of.
The service also costs money, of course. The price is $3.99 per game or $39.99 for the entire package. That's not horrible on the face of it. At one point in my life when I lived in St. Paul, Minnesota and had no access to cable or satellite I would have eagerly scraped together forty bucks to see fifteen Blazer games. If you live in Zigzag or something and you're a rabid Blazer fan that's not a bad deal. However it's still a crummy deal compared to every other way of watching. KGW is free. NBA League Pass Broadband is $90 for the standard model and $140 for the premium but you get every game of the season plus every other game around the league for that price. League Pass on the dish runs around $160 for just about every game played around the league as well, including Portland's if you're outside the blackout area. Of course factoring in the monthly dish subscription brings the value down, but if you're paying for some sort of cable/satellite already it's a no-brainer. Any way you slice it you're paying 1/2 to 1/4 of the price for a little over 18% of the games through a shaky medium.
All in all, it's probably best to take this for what it is: a goodwill offer by the team showing they take the concerns of fans at least semi-seriously and are working to provide coverage for those who lack it. If the technology keeps improving, the restrictions ease, and the Blazers find creative and interesting ways to enhance coverage through this particular medium they may one day be seen as pioneers. It's perfectly possible that everybody in 2036 who is watching the halftime ceremony celebrating the 25th anniversary of Brandon Roy's first championship will be doing so online or via wireless connection. There's no reason to be an early adopter, though. You've got a friend who will let you watch KGW at his house if you split a $7.00 six pack of beer with him. Technically that's only $3.50 in expenses and you get three beers out of it too. That's reason enough to make the drive from Rickreall into Salem on game night.
--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)
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Perhaps also a bigger incentive for Comcast to cut a deal with the satellites?
I can see this puts pressure on them to get it done before the Internet option reduces the attraction.
"Either way we have two phenomenal units. I'm excited to play with either one." - Martell Webster
by lee3022 on Oct 20, 2009 11:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe
But the Blazers can’t show Comcast games online unless they cut a deal with Comcast to do it. So Comcast isn’t really forced to do anything it doesn’t want to.
I also wonder how high the price is going to go if a Comcast deal is cut. With the limitations of online viewing it’s not nearly as good as getting the games on TV. A lot of casual fans are going to discover that. If the price is as high as a regular League Pass subscription a fair number of people are going to get disillusioned pretty quickly.
—Dave
by Dave on Oct 20, 2009 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good points but Comcast comes off as a triple villan if they don't cut a deal with the Blazers for Internet
The biggest negative is the lack of recording capability over the Internet. For me it might mean losing a cable provider to get the games I want over the Internet since DISH still carries far more college games than Bend Broadband. I am paying for both!
"Either way we have two phenomenal units. I'm excited to play with either one." - Martell Webster
by lee3022 on Oct 20, 2009 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
League pass broadband stores and replays the games for 24 (standard) or 48 hours (premium)
If the price for a package of KGW + Comcast streams comes up to about the same amount of $90 it’s not all that attractive as a package in comparison to getting almost ALL regular season games depending on blackouts (fewer in some regions and countries, playoffs cost extra) and All-Star Weekend and what have you.
"I think he can still play" - Kevin Pritchard on Juwan Howard
by Norsktroll on Oct 21, 2009 12:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
considering that comcast wants 2 dollars per subscriber per month
the blazers are asking for a lot more than what comcast wanted. granted i’m sure there is a high barrier cost to start up something like this and the blazers probably just want to recoup their investment. from a business perspective this is probably more of a goodwill gesture to fans than it is a money making machine. i can’t picture them selling enough streams to turn a huge profit.
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by Philthyanimal on Oct 20, 2009 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why do writers/posters keep . . .
talking about the 150 mile radius. As you know, I live in Medford,
which is well outside the 150 mile range and NO League Pass. The
explanation by the DirecTV folks (they suck also) was that it’s the sattelite spotlight/footprint that determines who can get a particular teams games
by being “out of their area”.
I think you live in Boise, ID ? Boise is no farther away from Portland
than Medford, but you can get the Blazer games on NBA League Pass
on sattelite, correct ? Three years ago when I signed up for DTV & LP,
I watched 77or 78 out of 82 games. I had asked the operator specifically
if there were any mileage or blackout restrictions. She quoted the 150 mile
blackout restriction, which was not a issue. It made for a great year of
watching BRoy & Smooth work out their rookie skills.
THEN enter this HOOOOOORRRRIBLE (as Big Red would say) DEAL
with COINCAST ! Of course, the management never paid any attention as
to who they were getting into bed with and how that company had done business
in the past.
The part that really enrages me is the flippant attitude that some Blazer management
takes on the situation. Larry Miller in particular. His goal of “taking the Blazer BRAND
GLOBAL” is major slap in the face to long time Blazermaniacs like myself who have
supported the franchise through thick and thin. Miller is lauded regularily, but I think
he’s a empty headed poser with visions of his own importance. Kind of like our
current political leaders.
It's GO time !
by walkoff41 on Oct 21, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The biggest winner in the Comcast debacle?
Sports bars.
by david1978pdx on Oct 20, 2009 11:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Well I guess, but sports bars in my area have no more access to Blazer games than I do.
Brandon Roy just destroyed everything in his path. There's your rational analysis -- Dave
Also: COMCAST SUCKS!
by TwoDeep on Oct 21, 2009 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i wish they archived the games and those should be free
if i could download the full game afterward it wouldnt be as laggy and anyone crazy enough to watch a game at a later date shouldnt have to pay for it.
by riccc_l on Oct 20, 2009 11:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
booooo
"No disrespect to Jeff Blake"
by Eat Politicians on Oct 20, 2009 11:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
okay
“All in all, it’s probably best to take this for what it is: a goodwill offer by the team showing they take the concerns of fans at least semi-seriously and are working to provide coverage for those who lack it.”
It is true, at least they are trying…hopefully they will get the rest of the games away from comcast but I don’t think that ice cube stands a chance in hell comcast
"No disrespect to Jeff Blake"
by Eat Politicians on Oct 21, 2009 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As usual, Seattlites get the shaft
I wonder how far north do I need to move to get LP without the blackout restriction. Everett? Bellingham? Vancouver? (BC, not WA)
by xedubx on Oct 20, 2009 11:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It's a conspiracy
to “teach Seattle a lesson”…only half joking…
"The match in Los Angeles is a good opportunity to begin to demonstrate that we want to make war." Rudy Fernández (translated)
by G_dubs on Oct 20, 2009 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps they don't want Seattlites
to become Blazer fans because they intend to move another team there someday. That would be really short-sighted, though.
I can tell you how to make an Excel spreadsheet that proves Portland wins 62 games this year.
by jscot on Oct 20, 2009 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some dude said on here that he canceled his Comcast
as soon as it was confirmed that the Blazers were going to stream games…without all the details…
a bit premature me thinks…
"The match in Los Angeles is a good opportunity to begin to demonstrate that we want to make war." Rudy Fernández (translated)
by G_dubs on Oct 20, 2009 11:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Mt. St. Helens will erupt causing an earthquake
to move Seattle to within 150 miles. :) Maybe the same will be done to Southern Oregon.
Only viewers within a 150-mile radius of Portland will be able to view the games. This is due to NBA regulations. However viewers outside that radius already have the option of watching all Blazer games on NBA League Pass Broadband.
This is not true, and they need to be pressed really hard on this one. There are fans on here who can’t watch the Blazers on LP who are further than 150 miles away.
I can tell you how to make an Excel spreadsheet that proves Portland wins 62 games this year.
by jscot on Oct 20, 2009 11:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope so.
There’s a tiny cable company in Ashland (14 miles from Medford) that has Comcast Sports Network, which means for some crazy reason that Medford is blacked out.
Unreal. I can’t watch the majority of Blazer games even though I have league pass, it’s completely insane.
by Nick Van Excellent on Oct 20, 2009 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's because it's the "People's Republic . . .
of Ashland". They live in a socialist “Utopia” where the Republic owns
and provides the power, sanitiation, information and the nudity !
Long live the Republic !!!!
Meanwhile back on the Farm (Medford), we have ONE cable company.
Charter Communications (Majority stockholder – Mr. PAUL ALLEN), who’s
cable company won’t sign a deal to carry Oregon’s only professional sports
team, coincidentally owned by MR. PAUL ALLEN. All the while MR. PAUL ALLEN’s
employees (ie, Blazer Business Management) have semi-vaccuous expressions
and comments as replies to any and all questions about when a DEAL will get
done between COINCAST (Evil Cable GIANT) and Charter or the Sattelite Companies.
All the while, there is a clause in which Blazer Management could void the
cable deal (based on subscriber #‘s), but is unwilling to take a stand or rock the
boat. Personally I think it’s all about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ !
GO Blazers !!! ( I love the TEAM, not Business Management !)
& COINCAST SUCKS !!!!!!!!!!!
It's GO time !
by walkoff41 on Oct 21, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
(raises hand)
this sucks.
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
by Cablinasian on Oct 21, 2009 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've always been fuzzy on the details
since I’m out of area and have always gotten LP without blackouts. Give me the specifics and I’ll amend the main post happily. What’s the radius?
—Dave
by Dave on Oct 21, 2009 12:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The theory for such an offering is that everybody who gets blacked out on LPB should get the games via the Blazers site
In practice, that won’t work. They will likely use some switch nodes based on IP-addresses (maybe cross-referenced with credit card addresses) to define who is inside and who is outside.
"I think he can still play" - Kevin Pritchard on Juwan Howard
by Norsktroll on Oct 21, 2009 12:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know
I’m in Scotland, I don’t have a clue about the details. I just see the guys on here from Seattle and Southern Oregon complaining about the fact that they are blacked out on LP. I do remember driving to Seattle, and it’s more than 150 miles. And Medford is like 280, if I remember right.
If they expand this to every place that League Pass is blacked out, then it would actually do some good, since some of those places don’t get KGW. And it wouldn’t be competing against League Pass. There is absolutely no reason in the world not to expand it that far. None at all. It’s just lost revenue opportunity for the team and the league. Maybe Ben or someone will take it up with the team.
I can tell you how to make an Excel spreadsheet that proves Portland wins 62 games this year.
by jscot on Oct 21, 2009 12:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
First we need accurate terms though
If anyone is blacked out farther than 150 miles away and has actually gotten an official explanation about why this is so, chime in here. If it has something to do with a Comcast radius we’d be happy to get more answers from the team, at least to the point of them amending their statement.
—Dave
by Dave on Oct 21, 2009 1:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seattle is blacked out and more than 150 miles away from Portland.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
by blzrfan on Oct 21, 2009 1:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've driven between Portland and Seattle over 100 hundred times
No possible way it is 144.7 miles.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
by blzrfan on Oct 21, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Flight distance (“as the crow flies”) = 145 miles
Driving distance = 173 miles
by Corvid on Oct 21, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
http://leaguepasssupport.nba.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=7801&task=knowledge&questionID=264
"I think he can still play" - Kevin Pritchard on Juwan Howard
by Norsktroll on Oct 21, 2009 1:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Zip code location associated with your Internet Service Providers (ISP) account", i.e. the location of their switch where their network connects to the backbone
"I think he can still play" - Kevin Pritchard on Juwan Howard
by Norsktroll on Oct 21, 2009 1:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the team uses the same methodology
to determine availability, then all is good. But it still should be clarified.
I can tell you how to make an Excel spreadsheet that proves Portland wins 62 games this year.
by jscot on Oct 21, 2009 1:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Could we just call you Scotty ????
It's GO time !
by walkoff41 on Oct 21, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Call me whatever you want
but there’s no way I’m gonna beam you up.
I can tell you how to make an Excel spreadsheet that proves Portland wins 62 games this year.
by jscot on Oct 21, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm a History/Poly Sci/Ed Major with . . .
ancestral relations to Lord Horatio Nelson of
Trafalgar Fame. I’ve always been interested in visiting GB,
so was wondering how you got there and what’s happening ?
It's GO time !
by walkoff41 on Oct 21, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How you get there
Book an airplane flight, generally. :)
I’m Scottish but grew up in Portland, came back as an adult.
What’s happening? You mean to the country as a whole? Societal decline just like everywhere else in the West. In Scotland, more than half the kids are born out of wedlock, and surprisingly enough, drug abuse, alcoholism, gang violence, anti-social behavior, etc. are all rapidly increasing.
The usual factions are ranting that we shouldn’t be in Afghanistan. Everybody went ga-ga over Obama, but since the Golden Age of the world hasn’t come in since he was elected, and no one’s life is actually any different than it was when Bush was president in any measurable way, people are starting to decide he isn’t the most perfect leader of the free world ever after all.
Manchester United, Chelsea, and Arsenal are still near the top of the English Premier League, Rangers and Celtic still dominate the Scottish Premier League.
Labour has been trashing Britain at a phenomenal rate. They will probably get thrown out of office next May, at which point the Tories will begin to trash Britain at a slower rate for a few years, until power corrupts them absolutely again, and then they’ll trash Britain at a phenomenal rate.
Government debt is so out of control that people are talking about raising tax rates for normal earners from 20% to 27%. High earners (in Britain that means over about $60K) are already paying effectively 41%, and some will be going up to 51% soon. National Insurance (equivalent of Social Security) is 10% for workers, 12.8% for companies (which gives companies incentive to keep salaries low, of course). VAT (effectively a sales tax) is 15%, going up to 17.5% at the end of the year.
It rains a lot. Every year we’re told global warming is going to mean a “BBQ summer”, the warmest summer on record. Every summer, when it comes, it actually rains instead. We had a very nice warm summer in 1995. Global warming either isn’t warming at all, or it isn’t global — it’s bypassing Scotland.
Too much info, probably. :)
I can tell you how to make an Excel spreadsheet that proves Portland wins 62 games this year.
by jscot on Oct 21, 2009 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am living in Southern Oregon
and haven’t bothered purchasing League Pass because I’ve been informed that the Blazer games are blacked out. For conformation, I e-mailed nba.com and this was the response they gave me:
Sports blackouts are a factor in every programming distribution service. Blackouts are determined primarily according to who has the rights to broadcast a given game in a given area, and are defined by the NBA. Blackouts take place when a game is televised locally in your area via a regional sports network or an over-the-air station. If a game is blacked out on NBA League Pass in your local area, you should tune to your local station to see the game. Games appearing on national television are not available on League Pass.
This applies to games being televised on ABC, ESPN, TNT, and NBA TV. You may view these games simply by switching to the designated channel. Be sure to check the NBA Schedule located at http://www.nba.com/schedules/index.html to see if a game is available in your broadcast area.
Dude, what are you doing, man? Why you gotta be holding a corn dog when I go for a high-five??
by 1badbadger on Oct 21, 2009 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How to tell if you can get the online streaming video.
If when you go on a porn site, “Portland Girls are waiting to meet you!” flashes incessantly across your screen, then you’re in.
"I won't back down." -- Tom Petty
by MojoMan on Oct 20, 2009 11:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
any word on Nate post-game?
"No disrespect to Jeff Blake"
by Eat Politicians on Oct 21, 2009 12:25 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Wiki answers is telling me seattle is 144 miles or so by car from portland
it must be shorter by the way the crow flies right? right???
by moflow on Oct 21, 2009 12:42 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
the sign on the overpass of NE 9th street over I-205 says...
166 miles to Seattle. Now, maybe that’s driving miles and not distance as the crow flies, but still…
Blazers win!
by The X-man on Oct 21, 2009 2:00 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I suppose I should mention that the overpass mentioned is in Vancouver, Wa...
Blazers win!
by The X-man on Oct 21, 2009 2:02 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm
For my money I would rather get league pass broadband although the local games on TV are blacked out. Still, all games + archive, I’ve got it the last 2 years and the service has imporved and is fully worth it
Considering this service is only available close to Portland it really only appears to disgusting neckbeards who won’t get off the computer even to watch TV!
by runningdonut on Oct 21, 2009 2:10 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What?
So you’re telling me I can watch a total of 15 games on the internet? Gee, I guess that’s cool. But they’re games that are on free tv? Less cool, but better than nothing right?
Wait, what was that? You want to CHARGE MONEY for this? Bwahahahahahah!!!! O, Blazers, sometimes you really have no idea do you? Kudos for trying though.
by sambowie on Oct 21, 2009 7:37 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If this service is useful to you, please reply.
I wonder if I’ll get any replies.
Disclaimer: everything I know about basketball I learned on Blazersedge.
by pualo on Oct 21, 2009 9:17 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I live 200 miles from PDX.
For many years I got all the Blazer games with League Pass on Directv. Since Comcast took over, all games on L.P. are blacked out. I live southeast of Roseburg. I do get the Eugene networks on Dish, but the one that carries KGW games is not HD, and the quality sucks. Judging by the lack of a real response that 1badbadger got from the NBA above, I continue to feel helpless. Dish sends a similar canned response. Dave, how about helping us make a charge here. How can we most effectively fight this? How many bedgers are negatively affected? How can we use this site to raise a ruckus? Any ideas? Anyone?
by crakarjack on Oct 21, 2009 11:05 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Trying
but we need more data first. Seattle folks appear to be within the mandated blackout radius so there’s nothing the team can do about that. You are able to see the games but not in good enough quality. Plus right below you talk about a slow DSL connection. Those are both legitimate issues but the team is going to say they’re not responsible for the lack of HD on your dish or the speed of your internet connection. We’re not at a spot where we can take something to the team and have them answer it. We need more samples, I’m afraid.
—Dave
by Dave on Oct 21, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dave, I'm not talking about the streaming,
I’m talking about Comcast making a deal w/ the satellite providers, or coming up with a reasonable blackout area. Unless the NBA coincidentally enlarged the black out area right at the same time Comcrap made their deal with the Blazers, then Comcrap is responsible for the blaclout on LP.
I also believe that in these days of big screen HD and DVRs, it is an affront to “give” fans the privilige of paying to watch a hurky jerky small picture on a computer. This is another kick in the nuts to non Comcrap customers by an organization (Blazers) that feigns concern.
by crakarjack on Oct 22, 2009 12:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah,
I’m talking about the LP blackout, or getting a deal done w/ sat providers. I can’t use a streaming option due to a slow DSL connection. Too far out for anything faster.
by crakarjack on Oct 21, 2009 11:08 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll help you, since it's COINCAST !
As posted above, it’s the sattelite FOOTPRINT/SPOTLIGHT.
A friend of mine in the technical end of TV broadcast, described it
to me as each sattelite can only show a spotlight of ( X – mileage radius)
to broadcast to a geographical area. That’s why the NBA shuts down that entire
feed area as that particular team’s territory. The commonly described 150 mile
Blackout restriction originated from the local sellout area for actual attendance to
the game and does not have any bearing on TV broadcast rights.
If anyone has new or other information, I am listening !
P.S. – The hold up for Charter to sign a deal is – COINSY will not sign a deal to allow
cable to make a special sports tier with COINSY NW. COINCAST wants Charter to
put the channel in the general package and pay $ 2.00 per service for EVERY
customer on their entire system. So in that case, every subscriber who has cable
will pay the additional $ 2.00 per month whether they like Sports or not.
It's GO time !
by walkoff41 on Oct 21, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, walkoff41, I'm down.
I am really getting pissed about this. I keep posting in these comment areas about this situation, but I can’t really tell if anyone gives a crap, or if there are many of us. I think it’s time to organize, if there is support, and try to make our message heard. If we could somehow show that there are a lot of us, maybe we could get some help from Dave and Ben, Canzano, or Henry Abbot, or ??? Any ideas, anyone? Maybe a fan post with a survey? I’m afraid that not enough disappointed fans are Bedgers.
It’s late, I’m too tired to continue now, but if anyone responds I will get back on it tomorrow.
by crakarjack on Oct 22, 2009 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
When it first happened . . .
at the beginning of the 07-08 season, there was a lot of outrage.
I got connected with a group out of Battle Ground, WA (suburb of Vancouver)
who was organizing a boycott. The guy runs the “Land rights” lobby group (which
I support as well) and they put together a email list and gave suggestions for
contacting COINCAST, Charter & the Sattelites, as well as the Blazers & advertiser’s.
After all the initial calls, my wallet froze up in relations to anything Blazers & their
advertisers. As a 35 + year Blazermaniac, I have not bought any tickets to games,
shopped at the advertiser’s or bought any Blazer gear. It’s very evident to me that
Coincast is such a GIANT monopoly they couldn’t care less about us “rural” folks.
It hit home when a COINCAST rep called me about advertising on a billboard here
in Medford to strike at Charter & the Sattelites. It never worked out, but they advertised
on TV, Radio & some poster sheet billboards with CBS. As you can tell by my photo,
I had a vinyl made up that I display if we have open space and I’m planning to put it
up again soon. I choose to blame the Blazers business mangement, since they
signed this HORRRIBLE deal with a company that has pulled this kind of power
play in other areas of the country. I still love the team and followed them on KGW & the
radio, but now I don’t even get KGW with my rabbit ears. Oh well, life has it’s problems.
P.S. – The Blazers have a clause in the contract where they can cancel if subscriber
#‘s aren’t up to certain levels. Of course, that will happen when Hell freezes over !
It's GO time !
by walkoff41 on Oct 25, 2009 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know any programs for OSX but I'm sure there are Blazer fans out there who will rip the stream
while it’s live and post the game on a torrent site. That is what I look forward too. I hope there is a lot more Blazer fans this year with capture cards too. I like downloading the games.
by BRoyInThe4th on Oct 21, 2009 11:32 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Will the $39.99 deal include Comcast games when they become available, or is that only for the KGW games?
Would there be a refund if Comcast games don’t come available?
I get the paper, so I don't care!
by Name's Ash on Oct 21, 2009 12:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
not really high-def
According to the FAQ:
In order to receive a high-definition broadcast, you need a broadband connection, such as DSL or Cable, with a download rate of at least 1.5Mbps.
1.5Mbps is not nearly enough for even a compressed HD stream. With MPEG-2 encoding, good quality 720p HD (1280×720) requires 12-15Mbps and good quality 1080i HD (1920×1080) requires 15-28Mbps. With MPEG-4 compression, you might be able to squeeze that 720p stream down to about 6Mbps without add too many visual defects. A 1.5Mbps stream viewed full-screen will not look like HD.
by mangas on Oct 21, 2009 12:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
high-def
In terms of live broadcasting, the majority of public viewers are not ready to handle these streams. The minimum resolution needed for 720p (1280×720 resolutions) can be achieved, however it requires a fast computer to decode the stream (typically H264 encoded), and also a fast internet connection. I will argue that the bitrates you mentioned are off the mark and a suitable picture can be achieved at 720p resolutions at 3Mbps. I’ve done it before—and people complained because most people can’t handle a 3Mbps downstream and the hefty computer requirements.
A good optimization would be to lower the resolution, and therefore the bitrates needed to broadcast. If you’ve ever doubled a video playing, you’ll notice the picture is still pretty decent. Taking that into account, if you half the size of a 1080p stream to 960×540 resolution, you can stream a very nice quality stream at 1.5Mbps. Still some computers and internet connections can’t handle it but a lot more will be able to. The quality there rivals DVD picture.
In terms of internet broadcasting, I’d say HD would be at least 640×360 resolution at 1Mbps. The video doesn’t require too much resources on the processor nor is 1Mbps as big as an issue for internet connections.
by Jerryd Oden on Oct 22, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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