Quick said Outlaw is at risk of NOT being in the rotation
Jason was on with Wheels and Vance this afternoon and said that Nate is trying decide between a 9 and 10 man rotation. Outlaw will have to show Nate something in the last two preseason games to be that "10th" guy. They speculated that Juwan Howard may have moved ahead of Travis as the backup PF...
Rudy had acupuncture today to relieve his back spasms, Quick now expects Rudy to either play tomorrow or in the last preseason game.
Jason's latest projected starting lineup
Blake
Roy
Batum
Aldridge
Oden
about 1 month ago
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Kevin Pritchard must quit sitting on his hands regarding Travis Outlaw.
The time to trade Outlaw was yesterday, so let’s get the ball rolling for once.
Stupid people have stupid ideas.
by AK1984 on Oct 19, 2009 10:45 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
remember the Euro-holds?
I’m not sure if Portland is at or over the cap at the present. But on the 27th they will definitely be “under” it and KP will have more flexibiity to deal Travis for a player making up to 5.5mil
Will Nate showcase Travis in these last 2 preseason games? Has dealing #25 been “the plan” all along, since July?
Ime Udoka probably wouldn’t have agreed to join the Blazers camp if he didn’t have some “assurance” of a roster spot…did Nate tell him that there was a “roster thinning” deal on the horizon, last month?
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by two4larue on Oct 19, 2009 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
why not?
Ime Udoka probably wouldn’t have agreed to join the Blazers camp if he didn’t have some "assurance" of a roster spot
Ime didn’t have anywhere else to go as far as I know.
by idoltime on Oct 20, 2009 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
as far as we all know, this is true
but there was speculation on the day he signed that he was told by Nate to “sit tight” and the roster situation would work itself out
IIRC Ime said he had some other offers, but most were not for “guaranteed money”
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by two4larue on Oct 20, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
His value isn't quite low enough for him to be traded yet
Give it until a couple months in with him playing 10-15 per game, getting no rhythm as a result and putting up nasty numbers. Then he will be traded for peanuts.
by MadBlaze on Oct 19, 2009 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
maybe we could get a second round pick for him!
by 50backflips on Oct 20, 2009 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Euro-holds.
All in good time.
by Nick Van Excellent on Oct 19, 2009 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wonder if there's any chance...
Outlaw + Blake + a pick to Memphis for Conley.
Is Chris Wallace that stupid? Is the Grizz owner that cheap? Both things are possible.
If this deal were still anywhere near on the table, the Blazers would have to pull the trigger in a heartbeat. My guess is Conley is still untouchable even after the head-scratching AI decision, but this would be the ideal move for Portland.
Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
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by KP Corleone on Oct 20, 2009 7:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would be nice
but I can’t believe Memphis is that dumb – even the Gasol trade netted them at least something in hindsight. I think Memphis would want Bayless in any Conley deal – while AI is a way to sell tickets, he’s also someone they can pair with Mayo who can play off the ball but can guard (if you can call what AI does defense) the point. Bayless would, at this point, be a souped up version of what they’re trying to do right now in terms of partnering another guard with Mayo.
This is a tough one for me – I think Bayless will be a Monta Ellis type with better defense and a more physical game, but Conley is one heck of a young PG, and those are hard to find. Plus, he’s been feeding GO in the post since he was in grade school, and I would love to see what they could do reunited as pros. The optimal answer, of course, is Memphis takes what you’re proposing, but I see them wanting more.
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by blazeraddict on Oct 20, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they would do it for sure.
I believe they offered Conley for Outlaw last Summer. Sure, Conley had a good year, but I’ve also read that they consider Mayo the PG of the future.
by Nick Van Excellent on Oct 20, 2009 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
travis has no trade value no one wants him
he’ll be dealt to sacramento if they are dumb enough to put travis and sergio together on 3rd string. im sorry but the reality is who wants Travis Outlaw. KP missed the oppurtunity a long time ago.
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by BlazerFan1 on Oct 20, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it only takes one GM
even though Outlaw doesn’t “fit” well in Portland anymore, he does have value as a bench scoring forward, especially on an up-tempo, non-contending team
he will have a job in this league after he’s gone from the Blazers. The trick for KP is, find the GM who hasn’t got “enough” bench scoring from his forwards
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by two4larue on Oct 20, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm giving you a rec, for the first time ever.
by TheTinfoil on Oct 20, 2009 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's got some trade value.
You could argue he was the third best player on a 54 win team and he has an expiring contract. Expiring contracts are valuable even if the player can’t play but Outlaw can play. He’s been one of the 5 best players off the bench the last couple of years and after Roy, is the go-to guy in crunch time. How many huge shots has he made the last couple years?
Roy, Aldridge, Oden, Rudy, Batum, Outlaw, Webster, Bayless, Blake, Miller, Joel... Holy crap!
by axel360 on Oct 20, 2009 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quick is blowing smoke
You don’t move to a 9 man rotation by dropping Travis out, because you don’t have anyone to play backup PF (unless we’re going to see 10-15 mpg of Joel and Greg together, which no one expects).
So if you drop Travis out, you replace him with Juwan in the rotation, which Quick suggested. But if you do that, you aren’t moving to a 9 man rotation, unless we’re going to a three guard rotation, which no one believes is happening, either. Or else we’re going to a three man rotation at the wings (Roy, Rudy, Nic) and leaving Martell out, which no one believes is happening, either.
So basically, Quick is talking rubbish here. If his “source” has told him Nate is thinking about a 9 man rotation, his “source” is either lying or ignorant. If Nate goes to 9 men, it is irrelevant to Travis, we’ll still need a backup PF, so to bring it into the Travis conversation shows that Jason either wasn’t thinking critically about his info, he was just stirring the pot, or he’s intentionally helping Nate send a message to Travis (which I really doubt he’d do).
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by jscot on Oct 19, 2009 11:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Nate told Batum he might use him at PF.
Juan Howard seems to be making Oden better, maybe he’s a better fit than Outlaw. Cunningham or Pendergraph (eventually) might work in that role.
Either way I wouldn’t be surprised if Outlaw is the odd man out one way or another. We’ve got offense coming out the wazzo, which means keeping the worst passer on the team off the court might be a good idea.
by Nick Van Excellent on Oct 20, 2009 12:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Juwan has rediscovered youth
he could certainly take that spot. He’s been bad, as in BAD, the last year or two, but really seems to have it together in the preseason.
I don’t see Nic playing 12 mpg at PF. That would be a waste of his perimeter defense.
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by jscot on Oct 20, 2009 2:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn't he be a better defender than Outlaw though?
There’s so many stretch 4’s that he would be effective on. There’s not really anyone that Outlaw defends super well.
by Nick Van Excellent on Oct 20, 2009 6:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Backup 4s?
The only backup 4s I’m concerned about are the ones that can muscle Travis around, and Nic will have the same problem.
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by jscot on Oct 20, 2009 6:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know...
Is there really anything about Travis’s game that makes him a better four than Nic? Nic plays stronger, rebounds better, defends better, has flashed a little post up game from time to time. Trout does none of those things. I’m always mystified by people discussing Trout as a four simply because he often gets inserted into the game with three other wings – he’s a pure three in every possible way, other than being fairly “long.”
He’s weak, a terrible rebounder, an awful interior defender, and has the same post up game as Pooh Jeter (i.e., none). When Trout “plays the four,” it is pure small ball with two SFs and no PFs on the court. It creates mismatches and allows Trout to get open looks, which he is uniquely qualified (and willing) to take.
But other than generating shots, I think Nic would be no worse, and possibly much better, in that role.
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by KP Corleone on Oct 20, 2009 7:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
10-15 mpg of Joel and Greg together, which no one expects
No one expects the Spanish Inquisition, either
But I’ve been speculating about the “twin towers” lineup the last few days. Now, obviously it will depend on the matchups, but if Greg has “turned the corner” and can stay on the floor without fouling, and has the stamina to play 30 mpg, then why not play Joel his standard 24 mpg and use Howard to fill in the gaps? (Call it a “9.5” man rotation) I know the objections, too much risk of foul trouble if Oden/Przy are in the game concurrently, on offense the lane will be too clogged with bodies, etc. But think of the positives, as well. Superior interior defense and rebounding. Getting two of the team’s toughest players more PT. Giving Greg the opportunity to run PnR and shoot a few face-up jumpers. Maybe this combo won’t be tried unless as a last resort, but that doesn’t mean that it shouldn’t be considered, at least.
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by two4larue on Oct 20, 2009 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
batum, aldridge, howard, oden, przybilla
the lineup of champions
"There are a few teams you have to watch out for in the fourth quarter."
"Yeah, but Portland definitely is not one of them."
-New Orleans Hornets broadcasters at the end of the third quarter with the Hornets leading 74-59. Portland later ends up winning 97-89.
"They don't mind him shooting that shot at all. Rudy Fernandez is not that great of a 3pt shooter."
-New Orleans Hornets broadcasters right after a Rudy Fernandez missed 3pter. Rudy Fernandez finished the game with three 3pters on six attempts.
by Tofu Anonymous on Oct 20, 2009 12:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope Nate is running some practice time on that
You have to at least explore whether you can make a weapon like that work, it is one more thing the opponent has to game plan against if you use it occasionally.
But if it happens, it will appear for a few minutes here and there in targeted situations, probably. We’re not going to see 12 mpg of it with a true 3 man rotation.
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by jscot on Oct 20, 2009 2:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
what big tough physical experienced halfway young forwards might be available during the season to pick up in a trade?
by riccc_l on Oct 20, 2009 12:25 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Nick Collison
I’ll keep beating this drum until somebody makes it happen!
BTW I consider 28 to be halfway young (given that 25 is young and 31 is old….)
by MadBlaze on Oct 20, 2009 12:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Nick Collison fits the mold.
Stupid people have stupid ideas.
by AK1984 on Oct 20, 2009 1:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No way they'd let him come here
They actually want to compete against us some day. Presti wouldn’t make that deal.
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by jscot on Oct 20, 2009 2:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Depends what we give them to get him
If we give up any one of Travis, Bayless or Martell and they fulfill their potential then I think we will be perceived to have made a bad trade. Even if Collison comes in and is effective playing 20 minutes backing up LMA and GO/Przy , there is only so much impact he can have.
For example, swapping Collison for Blake and Travis might make OKC a playoff team – Blake solidifies their pg rotation (where they currently have Livingston and Ollie as their only backups) and Travis gives them a reliable second option in the 4th quarter, something they desperately need if what I saw last year was any indication.
We may give up more talent in this trade but it would be to our benefit. Our players would know what their roles were and Bayless and Martell would get a chance to play and prove their worth which might not come with Trav/Blake still around. We would have a balanced roster with a good guard, forward and center rotation. No gaps or logjams.
Finally, Nick Collison loves the Northwest – Presti should do the right thing and sent him back up there!
by MadBlaze on Oct 20, 2009 5:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They don't want Travis
Durant and Travis on the court together won’t work. At all. A team can function with one guy who never passes, but not two.
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by jscot on Oct 20, 2009 6:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're correct about how Travis Outlaw would be a poor fit on both Oklahoma City ...
Memphis. For Oklahoma City, Jeff Green is proof positive that an undersized 4 who’s a defensive liability at that position is a horrible fit alongside Kevin Durant. For Memphis, that roster is already stacked at the forward positions with Zach Randolph, Rudy Gay, Darrell Arthur, Sam Young, DeMarre Carroll, and Trey Gilder. As it stands, there’s no room for Outlaw on either fledgling franchise.
Stupid people have stupid ideas.
by AK1984 on Oct 20, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
He’d be perfect here
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by blazeraddict on Oct 20, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ronnie Turiaf?
Jason Maxiel. Udonis Haslem. Jeff Foster. Boris DIaw.
I’m not sure “young” matters anymore, especially for that role. You can rotate players in and out, using the mid-level exception if you have too. There will always be some sort of free agent available, plus there’s a bunch of big men options that should be available next summer.
2010 unrestricted free agents
Brad Miller
Leon Powe
Chuck Hayes
Marcus Camby
Jermaine O’neal
Udonis Haslem
Darko Milicic
Most of those guys would be fine coming off the bench. I’m more worried abut a long term solution at PG since they are going to be harder to find. The best free agent PG in 2010 is Steve Blake hands down, which kills any hope of us landing a PG of the future unless we make a trade. It also gives Blake a lot of leverage since he’s the “best” option teams have if the really need a PG.
by Nick Van Excellent on Oct 20, 2009 1:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rajon Rondo, Nate Robinson, Chris Duhon, T.J. Ford and Raymond Felton dare to disagree with Blake being the best PG to hit the market in 2010
Other point guards likely on the market include Derek Fisher, Shannon Brown, C.J. Watson, J.J. Barea, Sebastian Telfair, Chris Quinn, Luke Ridnour, Rafer Alston, Shaun Livingston, Jason Williams, Randy Foye, and our formerly very own Sergio Rodriguez.
There is certainly competition in the market next season, and while a number of teams would like Blake as their backup few would pay him starter money.
"I think he can still play" - Kevin Pritchard on Juwan Howard
by Norsktroll on Oct 20, 2009 4:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone needs to update their free agent website.
It must have been old, or wrong.
My fault.
by Nick Van Excellent on Oct 20, 2009 6:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess Rajon and Felton were both on there. I just missed it.
Blake is probably better than all those guys on the top list with the exception of those two. I’m not a Blake fan, but I think Robinson is pretty terrible. I hate his game.
Shannon Brown might break out, but other than that all the guys in the second list are pretty sucky in their own ways.
So… I guess for me that makes Blake the third best free agent PG next summer, but not by much.
by Nick Van Excellent on Oct 20, 2009 6:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those two guys are RFA
and may not be going anywhere at all.
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by jscot on Oct 20, 2009 6:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He might be the third most accomplished PG
But i don’t know if many teams would project him anywhere near that high going forward. Blake’s talents are very circumstance specific. He needs a ball dominant SG and (ideally) a low post guy who demands the occasional double team. Blake’s effectiveness when asked to do things other than spot up for open threes falls off a cliff.
So while Steve might be better for Portland than a lot of guys on that list, a lot of guys on that list are better for other teams than Steve. To use an over the top example some people might disagree with, it could well be the case that Sergio is better next to Rudy than Blake is – Sergio is a ball dominant PG who creates shots for Rudy, while Blake struggles at those things and completely duplicates Rudy’s primary skill.
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by KP Corleone on Oct 20, 2009 7:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I were to put Outlaw and Blake on teams I feel would be Ideal for them
besides PDX,
I’d put Outlaw on the Grizz, the Warriors, or the Nets. I’d put Blake on the Heat (Along side Wade) the Hawks, or the Lakers.
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by HurraKane212 on Oct 20, 2009 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The last place Travis needs to go is the Griz
His primary asset is his ability to score. That is not a good fit on the Griz.
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by jscot on Oct 20, 2009 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
but, Givony said
that Memphis was upset that Utah matched Millsap’s offer, because that scuttled their Outlaw deal with Portland
no one said the Griz’ management was the sharpest pencil in the drawer
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by two4larue on Oct 20, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rumors, rumors
:)
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by jscot on Oct 20, 2009 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Patrick Patterson
if we trade for a pick?
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by HurraKane212 on Oct 20, 2009 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am sick and tired of the Outlaw for a banger talk
Wish in one hand for Outlaw to be traded for a banger and $&*@ in the other and see which hand fills up first. Blazers fans overvalue the heck out of the Blazers. Raef’s contract was going to get the team an all star and all it got was Miller. Sergio wasn’t worth much either.
by tominhawaii on Oct 20, 2009 5:07 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That is probably true
We could get a protected first round pick for him, but not a very high one. Remember the Wizards really wanted to move their pick when it was known it was a #5 and they couldn’t know Rubio would fall that far and other teams rather expected someone like Curry to be available there. And they wanted Ginobili from the Spurs for that, and lastly settled for the 1-year contracts of Miller and Foye who aren’t all-world but at least starter-quality players – plus unloaded their junk.
Alternatively a crusty vet like Kurt Thomas or Joe Smith, but it would be a lot of luck if a team wanted to move their backup PF in or before his prime. And some guys who a team might be willing to move have other issues like Tim Thomas that makes them less attractive to KP & Co.
"I think he can still play" - Kevin Pritchard on Juwan Howard
by Norsktroll on Oct 20, 2009 6:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
^ Tyrus Thomas. Tim Thomas rather fills the crusty vet category.
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by Norsktroll on Oct 20, 2009 6:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, a lot of people need to lower their expectations of Travis Outlaw's trade value.
At this moment in time, I’d be happy with the following relatively simple deals involving Outlaw.
1. Outalw to the New Jersey Nets for a 2010 first-round draft pick (via the Dallas Mavericks).
While that future draft pick would likely be just a late first-round selection, moving Outlaw in a cost-cutting move would open up cap space to make a lopsided trade later this upcoming season. The New Jersey Nets also have a sizeable trade exception and room on its roster for a simple-minded chucker at the 3 who’s looking to put up empty stats, make bank in the future, et cetera.
2. Outlaw to the Milwaukee Bucks for Kurt Thomas.
Even though I once threw my arms up in the air and sighed after having a futile argument with Outlaw homers regarding the value of Thomas, I stand by the assertion that Kurt — who’s a strong defender, rugged rebounder, and mid-range shooter — is a better fit with the Portland Trail Blazers at this point in time than Outlaw, who’s worn out his welcome. For Outlaw, Scott Skiles would either make him or break him. My guess is the latter, as Luc Richard Mbah a Moute and Hakim Warrick would play ahead of Outlaw at the 4 and Carlos Delfino and Ersan Ilyasova would play ahead of him at the 3; indeed, he would likely ride the pine with Joe Alexander.
Stupid people have stupid ideas.
by AK1984 on Oct 20, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d kill for the Thomas deal. Emergency help at the 5 and a solid backup 4.
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by Cablinasian on Oct 20, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blazers fans overvalue the heck out of the Blazers.
KP used to smile as he pulled rabbits out of hats on draft day, but perhaps these days we need to lower our expectations?
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by two4larue on Oct 20, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trade him to the Knicks for
Jared Jeffries + a future 1st ( 2012)
by Falcao on Oct 20, 2009 5:28 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Travis is out of the rotation
Anyone seen the games this preseason?
He doesn’t even look like HE thinks he’s going to make the rotation.
Top ten performers (in approximate order of preseason performance, not necessarily projected playing time):
Oden
Miller
Howard
Bayless
Przybilla
Roy
Aldridge
Webster
Blake
Batum
Others:
Udoka
Outlaw
Fernandez (Grade: incomplete)
Collins (Grade: incomplete)
Cunningham (Grade: incomplete)
Pendergraph (Grade: incomplete)
Mills (Grade: incomplete)
Now, when a guy struggling to make the team as a 15th man (Udoka) beats you out, you have to question whether you are going to make the active roster on game day, let alone the playing rotation. Rudy comes back from injury, and that’s eleven guys guaranteed to be on the roster who are outplaying Travis, and there is no way Nate consitently goes to an eleven man rotation, let alone twelve. Even assuming Bayless ends up getting edged out (tough to do the way he’s been playing), there is no way that Nate shaves minutes from Batum in favor of Outlaw, and it’s tough to envision Outlaw taking minutes from a high BBIQ and ACTUAL PF guy like Howard, especially the way he’s lit a fire under hsi teammates this preseason.
I really think Travis is out of the rotation, so waiting to make a trade until mid-season seems like a bad move, unless it’s just to a team that wants the expiring contract and won’t care that he’s been collecting bench slivers all season. that said, there will probably be a lot of those teams out there, and if we can do a consolidation trade at midseason using the salary cap space of Blake and Travis that we considered doing last year, I am still all for that, so long as it nets us our PG of the future to pair with Andre for the next couple years until Andre moves on.
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by blazer91 on Oct 20, 2009 9:37 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
problem is
we have 9 guys that are set in the rotation with Howard, Bayless, and Outlaw deserving of some minutes. I say let’s see how Howard does over the next week and if he can be a solid back up PF then Outlaw and Bayless fight for who doesn’t get traded.
by Ditez on Oct 20, 2009 12:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't believe anything Quick says
he’s so full of it. S
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by BlazerFan1 on Oct 20, 2009 12:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
While you can't believe all the stuff that's reported in newspapers, you also can't discard everything ...
on a whim due to an irrational disdain toward the journalist who wrote the article. Intellectually, it’s our job as readers to do our damnedest to sift through the facts and what appears to be conjecture. It may seem like an arduous process, but it’s much better than either taking everything at face vaule or throwing out the baby with the bathwater. As with almost everything in life, there’s a middle ground.
Stupid people have stupid ideas.
by AK1984 on Oct 20, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trade Outlaw while he still has trade value.
Roy, Aldridge, Oden, Rudy, Batum, Outlaw, Webster, Bayless, Blake, Miller, Joel... Holy crap!
by axel360 on Oct 20, 2009 1:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Seizing the moment
In point of fact, we don’t need a reporter to make the obvious point, which is that Outlaw is at risk for playing time. Batum’s inevitable improvement, Websters return, Howards experience, and Fernandez’s skills and continued improvement virtually guarantees a minute crunch at the 3 and very likely the 4 spots. It began last year though, when Webster went down and Outlaw could not step up – deferring instead to a 19 year french rookie – Batum, who virtually no one thought would get many minutes. From that point on, the hand-writing has been on the wall for Outlaw. He had to step up and improve his game – meaning defense and rebounding – yet we haven’t seen it. Mac likes to portray Outalw as a good man to bring off the bench to provide some quick offense and points – and he did do that. However, that was last year. Short of an injury, I can’t see Outlaw getting many minutes at the 3, and with Howard on the team, I think he’ll get squeezed at the 4 as well.
Sometimes it all comes down to players who can seize the moment. Outlaw had that moment handed to him last year – and he couldn’t seize it.
by Eben Calder on Oct 20, 2009 2:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Good synopsis
I can remember debating “how all the wing players were going to find enough PT” during the summer of ‘08 and the “problem” didn’t really go away, it was just put “on hold” when Martell got hurt. Then Nic got a chance to stand out and showed everyone that he’s the future SF.
This summer, we talked about “not knowing” how well Webster would perform, returning from his rehab, so this “delayed” the inevitable re: Travis’ status. Now we know that Marty is healthy, even though his shot has been rusty, so far. Batum is not going to do anything but get better, and finally Nate/KP will have to come to a decision on #25. They’ve sure had plenty of time to think about it, and they probably know what other NBA teams have interest. Perhaps an “untimely” injury will strike again this fall, but this time to a wing player on another team, and this will open up the need for a more urgent trade dialog with KP re: Outlaw? The preseason clock is ticking…
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