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Blog Season Preview

Every year, Blazersedge participates in a national network of blog season previews.  This year is no exception.  For regular readers, there's not going to be a ton of new stuff in this preview, although I do make a win prediction at the end for your mocking and criticizing pleasure. 

Team Name: Portland Trail Blazers

Last Year’s Record: 54-28


Key Losses: 
Channing Frye, Channing Frye’s Blog, Shavlik Randolph, Shavlik Randolph’s Valued Blazersedge Contributions, Mike Ruffin, Mike Ruffin’s Minivan, Raef LaFrentz’s Expired Contract, Sergio Rodriguez


Key Additions:
 Andre Miller, Juwan Howard, A Healthy Martell Webster, Greg Oden’s Confidence, Dante Cunningham, Jeff Pendergraph, No Sergio Rodriguez

 

Click through for the rest!

 

-- Ben (benjamin.golliver@gmail.com)

 

 

 

Star-divide

 1. What Significant Moves were made during the off-season?

 

It was a relatively quiet offseason for Kevin Pritchard, quieter than many fans had hoped for.  No splashy draft day trades, unless you count the Sergio Rodriguez dump to Sacramento.  The true excitement came in a trio of moves and non-moves: the failed courtship of Hedo Turkoglu, the cap-busting toxic offering of Paul Millsap, and the rebound relationship scoop up of Andre Miller. 

 

Ironically, Miller, the team's third choice, addressed its biggest need – an upgrade over Steve Blake at the point guard position – better than either of the other two players.  Optimists see this as fate intervening on Portland’s behalf.  Pessimists might see this as Pritchard’s broken clock being right twice a day.  Either way, Miller’s addition gives the Blazers one of the best 3 deep point guard rotations in the league and provides the team with another proven player who can create his own shots and help develop young, budding stars like LaMarcus Aldridge and Greg Oden.

 

Everything besides Dre was peanuts.  Juwan Howard might fight for the scraps of backup minutes behind LaMarcus Aldridge.  The rookies might get some Developmental League burn.  Portland-area zoologists probably miss Mike Ruffin's exotic animal collection.  Rudy needs to find a new wingman when he hits Aura late night. That's about it.

 

It wasn’t the best offseason – perhaps not the offseason that Pritchard envisioned when he decided not to trade Raef LaFrentz’s Expiring Contract back in February – but the Blazers roster is better this October than last, without question.

 

2. What are the team’s biggest strengths? 

 

Rebounding, offensive efficiency, depth, versatility, late-game execution.  Take your pick, there’s a lot to like about this group, a squad that will run 15 quality players deep once the roster is finally set.  The front line is anchored by centers Greg Oden and Joel Przybilla, who combine to own the boards like Crockett and Tubbs owned South Florida criminals. LaMarcus Aldridge’s 7 rebounds per game look soft by comparison and Travis Outlaw seems to gather roughly half of his rebounds by pulling them out of the arms of one of his centers.  All those rebounds add up to extra possessions and second-chance points for the Blazers, who are loaded with solid shooters like Steve Blake, Rudy Fernandez, and Martell Webster.

 

But the Blazers also enjoy a strength that not many teams can match: a proven, reliable, consistent and intelligent late-game ball-handler, Brandon Roy, who draws fouls and gets into the lane better than all but a few NBA players.  Roy’s penchant for late-game heroics – he claims with a straight face that he enjoys pressure – made for many memorable moments last year. A two-time All Star who inked a max extension this summer, Roy is playing for hardware from here on out.  He knows that better than anyone.

 

3. What are the team’s biggest weaknesses?

 

Although it might sound surprising on a team with such little roster turnover from last year, the team’s biggest weakness through 2 weeks of the pre-season is cohesion.  Adding a new big-minute point guard to the rotation has everyone adjusting. Greg Oden’s continued development has everyone from the coaching staff down re-thinking his role with the team.  Are there enough touches?  Who meshes best with whom?  What’s the optimal number of guys – from 8 to 12 – to play on any given night? These are the core questions for Coach Nate McMillan.

 

Another weakness – which will likely continue to be a weakness for years to come given the personnel – is team defense.  While McMillan has committed his team to hard-and-fast rules and a specific system, asking his players to play pick-and-roles in a consistent manner and to religiously close out on shooters in hopes of decreasing their opponent’s field goal percentage, it’s unclear whether this group – from the top down, including Brandon Roy – has fully bought in.  Some nights they do, some nights they don’t. Some plays they do, other plays they don’t.  It was a problem last year in the playoffs, as Aaron Brooks and Yao Ming were a lethal one-two punch, and Luis Scola looked all-world.  The players claim that they took to heart the importance of defense from that series, but there hasn't been a ton of evidence to support that during the pre-season.  

 

4. What are the goals for this team?

 

Anything short of a division title and the second round of the playoffs would be a disappointment.  Management, coaches and players have all set the bar that high, and they’ve done so with a confidence that borders on cockiness.  Management feels they have assembled the right personnel (and lots of it!), the coaches feel they’ve added experience and savvy to a talented group of youngsters, and the players feel like they have something to prove after getting booted out of the first round by a tougher, more determined Houston Rockets team.  

 

Pretty simple, really.

 

There are other goals: Aldridge and Oden want to make the All star team, Roy wants to be all-defense, a few Blazers reserves could be in the running for 6th man of the year, but those awards and accolades aren't the focus.

 

5. What’s up with Greg Oden?

 

Greg Oden, a player who has been off the national radar for the past 2+ years, has consistently been the brightest spot during the team's lackluster pre-season.  During multiples stretches of play, he’s been the best player on the court, something that was never said about him during the 60+ games he played last season.  He’s confident again, trimmed down and well-balanced on his legs, finishing with authority, and trusting his off-season work, which included the development of a number of simple, go-to moves around the basket.  His offensive game is less robotic and more diverse; his defense is less choppy and more instinctive.  He’s altering more shots while committing less fouls, exactly what every single fan, no matter how intoxicated, wanted to see from him last season. 

 

I have privately taken to calling him Giggles Oden, as he seems to crack up at every question or comment I make to him regardless of the setting: pre-game, post-game, after practice, or anywhere else.  Maybe I just look funny or talk funny (definitely a possibility)?  Or maybe Greg just has his mind right, after an up-and-down season spent, at times, sulking on the bench and consulting with a sports psychologist. What’s clear this fall is that Greg is back to enjoying the game. He still has work to do, there’s no question about that, but he’s back to being a player you can’t help but root for.

 

While top draft picks are expected to provide big time contributions, production from Greg Oden has been an added bonus rather than a staple necessity for the Blazers over the last few years.  2010 is shaping up to be the year that starts to change, with the potential to be the big, breakout season everyone has been waiting for. 

 

6.  Bottom Line

 

There are plenty of reasons to be bullish on the Blazers and it seems darn near every analyst is.  They’re protected against injury better than almost every team, going at least two deep at every position. They’re built to execute well in the halfcourt but they can run a little bit when needed, thanks to Miller. They’ve got big guards and little guards, athletic wings and physical wings, long 4s and big 5s: thanks to this depth and versatility, they’re far more prone to creating mismatches than getting exploited by them. They’re coming off a 54 win season, didn’t lose a single major piece and are a year more experienced than they were last season.

 

But entering this season, things aren’t quite clicking yet. And it seems like it could take some time. 

 

At this point, a little more than halfway through October, I’ll get on board with a playoff series victory (possibly 2): all the pieces are there. Although they started the summer as likely Division favorites, I’m not sure I see the Blazers emerging on top of what will surely be a heated 3-team chase for the Northwest Division title.  

 

That said, last year’s Blazers surpassed my expectations by 5 wins; this year’s Blazers are certainly capable of doing the same (if not better). 

 

A trade deadline move to find that still-missing piece and to cut loose some expiring salaries could be what this group needs to make the full, deep post-season push that it desires. Trade or no trade, the team’s offensive efficiency, rebounding prowess and the presence of Brandon Roy should make for an entertaining year. 


Predicted Record: 52-30. 2nd in Northwest Division. 4th Overall.

 

-- Ben (benjamin.golliver@gmail.com)

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Thanks Ben

"And in the end
The love you take
Is equal to the love you make." -The Beatles

by 92wastheyear on Oct 19, 2009 1:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Ben for MVP.

"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.

by Cablinasian on Oct 19, 2009 1:42 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Not with that win prediction!

52 wins? I’ll assume you secretly think we’ll win 10 more but that you have to keep-up
the appearance of sober analysis.

amlmart1: 64 wins
MiledAnimal: 63 wins
jscot and Ben: 62 wins

Yes, that’s much better.

by MiledAnimal on Oct 19, 2009 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

the blazers only won 49 regular season games in 1977

and didn’t really ‘find themselves’ until somewhat late in the season, once johnny davis began starting in the backcourt alongside lionel hollins (benching dave twardzik). davis and hollins comprised perhaps the quickest, most defensively aggressive backcourt in the NBA, a huge factor in beating the pre-magic johnson lakers and the star-powered (but less quick) 76ers. hollins in his prime may have been the best defensive guard in the league.

we may regress from 54 wins this season…..what i hope is that the team comes together and gets hot late.

ignacio

by ignacio on Oct 19, 2009 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

if we regress

it will take as much injury misfortune as the rockets

they got bit by the injury dinosaur

by lurtsman on Oct 19, 2009 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

once johnny davis began starting in the backcourt alongside lionel hollins (benching dave twardzik).

Davis and Hollins were great together, but Twardzik was never benched. “Pinball” hurt his ankle (badly) early in the playoffs and Jack had a decision to make. He was leaning towards starting Larry Steele with Hollins (for more backcourt experience) but Walton (and perhaps other players) convinced Ramsay that the rookie from Dayton was ready.

JD was huge against the Lakers, he and Hollins pressured the L*ker backcourt to distraction, and veteran guard Herm Gilliam came off the bench and hit some huge shots in game 2, down in L*A.

IIRC, Twardzik made it back from his injury in time to play against Philly in the finals; his ABA experience was helpful to “steady” the Blazers during their series comeback, and Dave’s ability to drive into the lane and spin the ball off the glass and down was legendary. (He also shot over 50% from the floor and was clutch from the FT line)

When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Oct 19, 2009 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

glad to have that straightened out.

i remember walking down the hall in the VA hospital (at work, rather than as a pt), looking into a room on the 2nd floor surgical ward, seeing the blazers in l.a. on tv, and realizing, “hey, we’re winning!”

and hollins and davis were making don chaney and lucius allen (?) look old and slow. philadelphia’s henry bibby looked very slow by comparison as well.

ignacio

by ignacio on Oct 19, 2009 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lucius Allen was also hurt, before that series

and he was the L*kers best ball handler. Hollins and Davis hounded Chaney and Tatum, and this prompted 76er’s Gene Shue to have center Caldwell Jones bring the ball upcourt so Bibby and Collins wouldn’t have to face the full court pressure

When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Oct 19, 2009 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Schonz with the call
Here’s Chaney dribbling over halfcourt, Chaney from 25… no good! Walton the rebound… Outlet to Johnny Davis, over to Hollins, lickety brindle, up the middle, it’s good.

Then you notice on TV (because that’s how you watched it – turn off the CBS announcers, turn up Schonely) that Jabbar looks like he wants to punch Chaney in the face.

Good times.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exOxUAntx8I&feature=channel_page

by The Cactus Leaguer on Oct 19, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I could see..

…with the improvements to the Spurs, a stronger “team” atmosphere in Denver, a healthy Amare in Phoenix and potential landmines like the Clippers, Memphis and Oklahoma, that the Blazers could be a much improved team this year and take a ding in their record in comparison to last year.

Not to say that will be the case, but there is a possibility.

Also, with the West so strong again, regular season schedule won’t be an accurate scale on which to judge the teams.

This is gonna be a knock-down-drag-out fight this year. Can’t wait!

Wondering what moves Pritchard would make to land me a date in the off-season. Preferably one with tickets.

by MikeIrish on Oct 19, 2009 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are you sure?

Ben admitted to only being a bandwagon fan.

At this point, a little more than halfway through October, I’ll get on board with a playoff series victory (possibly 2)…

Right now he’s saying he’s a fan of some other team, and and if the Blazers win a playoff series, or two, then he’ll jump on the bandwagon. I thought he’s always been a Blazers fan, but that comment tells me something different.

by tominhawaii on Oct 19, 2009 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also notice how he casually uses the letter “L” at the beginning of the word “little”, then a mere two words later he slips in the letter “A”.

L? A?

Most may pass this off as coincidence, but those are the same folks who don’t want to admit that the moon landing was a hoax. I think we can all decipher who Ben is pulling for with his hidden messages…and it ain’t the Clippers.

Furthermore, how could he so conveniently arrive in the middle of next April, just in time to jump aboard the Blazer bandwagon? That’s right…on another bandwagon.

Case closed.

The cowards never started
The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers

by lukeyhere on Oct 20, 2009 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Interestingly

The Denver preview on SBN also has them second and us first. Trying to jinx each other I guess.

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Oct 19, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

that could never happen

if you watch Rambo in reverse, Sly is healing everyone with his magical, bullet-sucking vacuum

by Tyler Durrden on Oct 19, 2009 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well..

I think that Denver feels the same way about us as we do about them. I say that we focus this whole season on sweeping them so that they are too scared to take the NW Division.

by jeremyse on Oct 19, 2009 1:53 PM PDT reply actions  

I refuse to accept last night as a legit win

or a legit marker of where our team is at.

With two key players out all night and the all star playin like .. (expletive) .. its impossible to know who is better.

Just for the simple fact that Nate is the coach , I say Portland lands number 2 in the NW div. like Ben and most other people are predicting.

I say if Carmelo played last night in the 4th qt .the Blazers lose.

S

The Princess of Blazersedge

It just takes an iron fist to keep the riff raff under control and her princess hand is mad strong- Idoltime

by BlazerFan1 on Oct 19, 2009 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

well, win or loose, Greg continued to show us the kind of play we drafted him for,

which is very big. Probably the best development in the pre season. We obviously are not playing our best ball, but we get glimpses, and with a bit of time there is a very good chance we will be very good. I am optimistic. Our star player is still in there. If things don’t gell close to trade deadline, we have options. Lot’s of good possibilities.

by Berkeley on Oct 19, 2009 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree Greg's progress is encouraging

And I dont disagree with you, there are tons of positives to take away, but lets be honest , this pre season has been a mess. LOL
S

The Princess of Blazersedge

It just takes an iron fist to keep the riff raff under control and her princess hand is mad strong- Idoltime

by BlazerFan1 on Oct 19, 2009 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I tell myself the disarray is just coach getting to try out stuff..

RAMBO ? second unit crashes.
JayBay – ok, let him play SG, not bad.
Defense ?? ow !
So really, not winning is not necessarily bad if important lessons are being learned.
Nate has had good results so far, but this season is a big challenge for any coach, with everyone recognizing the excellence of our roster. New contracts will force some of these guys out from sheer cap space. A special opportunity with all this level of talent. We got potential stars for other teams sitting on the bench. I would have signed the new contract, coach.

by Berkeley on Oct 19, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Denver is good, no doubt

The reason I’d pick the Blazers over ’em is that the Blazers have more depth. In a long, 82-game season, both teams are likely to have plenty of injuries, both major & minor. It seems clear to me that the Blazers are better equipped to weather those setbacks.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Oct 19, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well....

and if LaMarcus played, the Blazers would have won, regardless of Carmelo.

So there…neener, neener, neener! Just kidding….don’t kill me.

"I'm a man, but I can change.....if I have to......I guess." - Red Green

by antediluvian on Oct 19, 2009 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

You forgot the new Sergio Rodriguez hohorary latrine in the locker room....

You got a nasty streak Ben, the guy is gone, do we have to call that an addidion?
Howard is “peanuts”? I think he is showing more than that.
Greg laughing is good. I hope the “giggles” comment doesn’t in any way hamper a good thing. Might be best not to overdo that moniker.

by Berkeley on Oct 19, 2009 1:57 PM PDT reply actions  

or Gregarious or Jolly (as in Jolly Giant)

or just Happy. Giggles has a “girlie” quality to it. Greg may be many things, but, ah, “girlie” just aint one of ‘em. Don’t even think of posting a photoshop with him in a dress.

by Berkeley on Oct 19, 2009 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

eGREGious

When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Oct 20, 2009 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

The key addition is that now our rotation is Miller - Blake - Bayless (in whatever order)

He could also have written “key addition – veteran point guard rotation”.

"I think he can still play" - Kevin Pritchard on Juwan Howard

by Norsktroll on Oct 19, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm just glad Blake wasn't listed in the "teams biggest weakness'" section.

Thanks Ben… Good post and thanks for the information and insight.

I say Blazers win the division, go 58-24 and get out of the first round… Mild improvement I know but gaining 9 wins a season may not be realistic every year. The exciting thing for me is we have the horses to go deep in the playoffs if everyone gels.

GO BLAZERS!!!

by Ilikeemall on Oct 19, 2009 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

really solid stuff, ben

Some of your best work – and I count this brief, clinical writeup in that category – have been the pieces not written expressly for this blog/audience. Your sense of balance, your attention to detail and your ability to convey critical information to people who have invested a much smaller amount of time to this team is impressive.

I also like that it provides the rest of us with a glimpse of how you really feel. (52 wins?! Shun the non-believer indeed.)

GG MFer!
-joel przybilla

by hossticles on Oct 19, 2009 2:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Wow Ben

Are you going non-homer for all the people that will come to the site?

by robrun2 on Oct 19, 2009 2:11 PM PDT reply actions  

I think 52-30 is very conservative

considering the Blazers are the type of team to grow and improve as the season progresses. This preseason has been a complete mess, lets be honest. BUT, its still just the preseason, and we don’t know how the team will play with actual pressure on them to win. Whatever, I’m a homer anyways! GO BLAZERS!

I went to the malls and I balled too hard
'Oh my god, is that a Black Card?'
I turned around and replied, why yes but I prefer the term
African American Express

by Claire on Oct 19, 2009 2:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Swine flu?

While 52 wins is still quite respectable, I don’t see it.

Don’t let the sloppy pre-season get to you like that, Ben.

An offensive rebound in paragraph form. -Mr. Golliver

by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Oct 19, 2009 2:24 PM PDT reply actions  

The 52 win prediction makes more sense considering the possibility of a slow start.

I still have higher expectations than that, though.

Nice write up, Ben. I enjoyed Giggles Oden.

You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.

by austinpwnz on Oct 19, 2009 2:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Really expecting 52

is attempting to counter a level of homerism that is apparently not present in the fans making the prediction. Fifty two is worse than the vegas odds, and even vegas struggles to project the talent level of teams in advance—though they do adjust quickly.

by lurtsman on Oct 19, 2009 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hawes, Nene, and Birdman might have noticed

I can tell you how to make an Excel spreadsheet that proves Portland wins 62 games this year.

by jscot on Oct 20, 2009 1:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

And a couple of fantasy guys on ESPN

Two separate fantasy quote-unquote experts are picking Greg as their sleeper center this year. They’re sayin’ he’s gonna put up No. 1 center numbers and you can draft him on the cheap cuz people haven’t realized he’s gonna blow up yet.

"I just sort of know that around the water cooler they talk of reality tv stars, and I strictly drink coffee." -- EvilKaramazov

by BlazersOrBust on Oct 20, 2009 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I went to the Denver Stiffs

Their gameday thread had 26 comments. B-Edge had a 1st & 2nd half thread totalling over 1,800. WOW !!!
   Ben don’t be afraid to be a homer.Portland will win more then last year. The NW division belongs to us as we are the only team that is really in the NW! 62 wins WCF BOOK IT

"BEER IS LIVING PROOF THAT GOD LOVES US"
- Benjamin Franklin-

by We-B-Dunkin on Oct 19, 2009 2:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah I think Ben was being overly cautious about looking like a homer and losing his credibility.

Blazers will go 58-24 and get to the West Finals

Roy, Aldridge, Oden, Rudy, Batum, Outlaw, Webster, Bayless, Blake, Miller, Joel... Holy crap!

by axel360 on Oct 19, 2009 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Ben's drinking Kevin Pelton's coolaid

52 wins is very close to what Pelton predicted in his basketball prospectus.

by PoliSam on Oct 19, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

The New Orleans rationale is due to (a) Chris Paul being amazing and (b) adding a good center to a 49 win team that played half the season with a pretty ineffective Chandler and the other half with Hilton Armstrong.

"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.

by Cablinasian on Oct 19, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Dallas Mavericks will surprise people, which includes the statistical-minded pundits.

I wouldn’t be at all shocked if the New Orleans Hornets regained most of its spunk and moxie, either. as trading for Emeka Okafor was a solid move. Lastly, the people who spout nonsense about how the Portland Trail Blazers are a likely 60-win team this season need to knock off the homerism spiel.

Stupid people have stupid ideas.

by AK1984 on Oct 19, 2009 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

60 looks unlikely to me as well

and i don’t care. the playoffs is when the real season begins.

ignacio

by ignacio on Oct 19, 2009 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

You are no fun to save and feed back after 63 wins

Because you get what you want – agitation without substantiation (a trademark).

Have you ever tried sugar in your morning coffee – worked for my grumpy granddaddy?

"Either way we have two phenomenal units. I'm excited to play with either one." - Martell Webster

by lee3022 on Oct 19, 2009 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

If the Portland Trail Blazers win 63 games this year, then y'all can call me out for ...

being a cynical downer with my predictions. I’d have no problem with that. In fact, taking ownership of all my statements and proclamations — whether they’re ultimately proven right or wrong — is a true trademark of mine.

Stupid people have stupid ideas.

by AK1984 on Oct 19, 2009 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

You have proven my point

"Either way we have two phenomenal units. I'm excited to play with either one." - Martell Webster

by lee3022 on Oct 20, 2009 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Flagged

because referring the fans on this blog needing “to knock off the homerism spiel” is offensive.

by lurtsman on Oct 19, 2009 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I found it to be a compliment.

*Unless KP has a secret plan that makes this statement incorrect.
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by staylost on Oct 19, 2009 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't go that far, but I like AK's strong opinions

and sorry lee3022, you’re wrong, he does usually back them up, just not this time.

If it weren’t for AK1984, I would be the biggest curmudgeon on BE.

Wow, I can only imagine what AK will be like when he’s my age!

by MiledAnimal on Oct 19, 2009 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

You're just a big ole pollyanna in comparison to

AK. Timbo is the curmudgeon and AK is the grim reaper. :p

"Aneurysm".

When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie

by annthefan on Oct 19, 2009 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

DID SOMEONE SAY KOOL AID!!!!

I LOVE KOOL AID!!! MAYBE WE COULD PICK UP THE KOOL AID GUY FOR A DRAFT PICK. WE NEED A GUY WHO CAN RUN THROUGH WALLS!!!!

by kaisersoze on Oct 20, 2009 1:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good job Ben.

A couple of things.

Rudy needs to find a new wingman when he hits Aura late night. That’s about it.

I don’t even need to say it.

Second thing: Giggles ODen, it’s cute and I like it.

Third thing: This pre-season has totally sucked, but it has not been defining of who we are as a team. I understand being conservative, but that’s a little too conservative for my liking. I respect it though.

I say 56-26, first in the division, WCF appearance. But again, I am a homer.

"We believe" -Rudy Fernandez

by twiggs on Oct 19, 2009 2:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Vegas has the over/under at 53.5

And everyone is betting the over.

Roy, Aldridge, Oden, Rudy, Batum, Outlaw, Webster, Bayless, Blake, Miller, Joel... Holy crap!

by axel360 on Oct 19, 2009 2:40 PM PDT reply actions  

If everyone were betting the over the number would go up.

Their goal is to balance the bets. That’s how they make money.

by BlazerFanSince1970 on Oct 19, 2009 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep. It started at 52.5.

Roy, Aldridge, Oden, Rudy, Batum, Outlaw, Webster, Bayless, Blake, Miller, Joel... Holy crap!

by axel360 on Oct 19, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I suggested to my wife we toss a grand on it

She doesn’t follow the blazers well enough to know the + on 52.5 is very probable and thus should generate a positive expected value. Of course she never cared for professional poker players either.

by lurtsman on Oct 19, 2009 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Before anyone accepts the Vegas line as gospel,

I would be very interested to know what number of wins it predicted for the Blazers in each of the last three seasons. I’ll bet it was low.

by MiledAnimal on Oct 19, 2009 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

The main picture at the top of this story...

…illustrates perfectly the size of the mitts Greg is sporting. Damn! It looks like his outspread hand is wider than the basketball. I’m sure looking forward to his beastliness, and finesse, on the court this year.

Nice read on the story, BUT, I too am hoping for more like 58+ wins. But, more importantly, I hope to see a long run in the playoffs.

Go Blazers!

by Igot D. Jones on Oct 19, 2009 3:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Good observation - made me go back and notice

"Either way we have two phenomenal units. I'm excited to play with either one." - Martell Webster

by lee3022 on Oct 19, 2009 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Really, really good preview

I’ve got us for 54 wins right now, but I think Ben might be right on I actually could imagine 52 being just enough to eek out the division title, or it might require ~55. Tough to say.

by jksnake99 on Oct 19, 2009 3:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Underachieving is always easier than overachieving

that is a simple axiom of sports. I don’t see this squad as an underachieving group. Therefore, 52 wins is far less likely than > 52 wins.

by blacknoiseNW on Oct 19, 2009 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here are my prior comments on this topic, althought it's got a sidebar discussion included in it.
“All right, I’ll simplify it further by laying out which I think are most likely from first to last.

1. 52 to 56 wins. (40%)
2a. 48 to 52 wins. (25%)
2b. 56 to 60 wins. (25%)
4a. 48 wins or less. (5%)
4b. 60 wins or more. (5%)

A lot will have to come together for the Portland Trail Blazers to surpass 60 win plateau. In fact, I’d argue it’s just as likely that the Trail Blazers suffer a serious injury to either Brandon Roy or Greg Oden and miss the playoffs altogether than it is #52 making two leaps in one season to superstardom — which will be necessary for the ballclub to be a top-two team in the Western Conference — when it’s more probable that this year will just include the second stage of his natural progression in development.

So, while Oden could be an All-Star reserve next season on the Western Conference team as a figurative replacement of Shaquille O’Neal, he’s not yet ready to reach the superstar status of a Dwight Howard. It should happen in due time, though, but we must be patient.

Basically, I predict that Oden will put up similar numbers to what Patrick Ewing did at 25 as a third-year player for the New York Knicks under Rick Pitino during the 1987-1988 season. For Oden’s sake, Andre Miller will embrace the Mark Jackson role as a pass-first playmaker and Joel Przybilla will be a veteran mentor like how Bill Cartwright had related to Ewing.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/fc/tiny.cgi?id=pnPo4

Of course, Brandon Roy is immensely superior to Gerald Wilkins — as are LaMarcus Aldridge, Nicolas Batum, Martell Webster, and Rudy Fernandez to Sidney Green, Kenny Walker, Johnny Newman, and Trent Tucker, respectively — thus, the 2009-2010 Trail Blazers definitely won’t be mediocre like that version of the Knicks.

Oh, and for anybody who continues to think that being a floor general isn’t a combination of an innate quality with skills honed during adolescence, "Action" Jackson is a counterexample that puts a huge dent in such a belief system.

During their respective rookie seasons, Jackson posted an assist percentage of 37.4%, Miller posted an assist percentage of 38.7%, and Jerryd Bayless posted an assist percentage of an atrocious 18.2%. Ouch! That stark truth must hurt Bayless lemmings fans, but such pain isn’t my problem.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/fc/tiny.cgi?id=IOMsK

I’m sick and tired of hearing about Chauncey Billups, too, for him blooming later in his career was a total anomaly. When I read about Bayless being compared to Billups, it reminds me of when Luke Ridnour was repeatedly compared to another well-known outlier, Steve Nash, even though it was plainly obvious that the comparison was a total shot in the dark.

If folks want to find a ceiling for Bayless, then look no further than Monta Ellis. Now, while Ellis is certainly a decent player, he’s not somebody who a winning franchise builds around in any way, shape, or form.

Anyway, in an attempt to finish on an upbeat note, I wouldn’t be at all shocked if Oden posted gargantuan numbers come the 2010-2011 season. Heck, Oden’s stats could someday mirror that of Artis Gilmore during the Kentucky Colonels ABA title run during the 1974-1975 season under head coach Hubie Brown.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/fc/tiny.cgi?id=4j8DM

Now, I suggest viewing the pace-adjusted/per-minute advanced stats in lieu of the per-game stats when comparing players from different eras. Still, I think Oden will ultimately evolve into a contemporary Ewing/Gilmore hybrid; however, it’s easier for me to compare him to Ewing than Gilmore, as I actually watched the Knick legend play the game."

http://www.blazersedge.com/2009/8/1/894063/60-wins-what-will-it-take#19107790

On the whole, that was an informative thread with a collection of marvelous back-and-forth banter.

Stupid people have stupid ideas.

by AK1984 on Oct 19, 2009 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

my favorite Gilmore quote

Artis said his goal when he dunked was to jam it through the hoop and make the ball “stick to the floor”

When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Oct 19, 2009 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Physically, Greg Oden has a lot in common with Artis Gilmore.

Similarly to Gilmore, Oden is also ultra-efficient on offense and a monster on the boards.

Stupid people have stupid ideas.

by AK1984 on Oct 19, 2009 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gilmore had tiny hands for his size. Wasn't as mobile as GO, either

But he was scary strong.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Oct 20, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Besides, Nate Thurmond is the center GO most resembles

None other than Maurice Lucas made the comparison when the Blazers worked GO out prior to the draft. Lucas set up in the key, GO bumped into him, and Luke went flying backwards. He hadn’t anticipated that kind of quickness & force at all. It was Thurmond-esque.

And that’s all Lucas needed to see. He strongly advocated for the Blazers to pick GO over Durant on the basis of that workout.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Oct 20, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Except Greg might actually be better offensively than Nate was

I can tell you how to make an Excel spreadsheet that proves Portland wins 62 games this year.

by jscot on Oct 20, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thurmond averaged over 20ppg for six years.

I’d be happy if Greg does that and ecstatic if he does better than that.

by MiledAnimal on Oct 20, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

If he stays healthy and in shape

I would be shocked if Oden isn’t capable of many 20+ppg seasons…

The question is, will we have enough possessions to enable him to do so? I think we will, since it will be incredibly efficient and foul-inducing to go into him. And of course it won’t be this year, but this year’s Oden is still gonna be a severely early stage Oden.

He scores so easily with very little skill, and as he improves and gains more experience and age, he’ll be an extremely dangerous offensive weapon. Especially if he keeps hitting his FTs.

Morty

by Mortimer on Oct 20, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right

He may not score as highly as Thurmond, but that won’t necessarily mean he’s not better offensively. It just means he’s on a team that doesn’t need him to score.

I can tell you how to make an Excel spreadsheet that proves Portland wins 62 games this year.

by jscot on Oct 20, 2009 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I always found it ironic

that the Warriors didn’t win their title until after Thurmond retired

Clifford Ray and George “underhand FTs” Johnson FTW

When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Oct 20, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

all things being equal - the Blazers will be better.

No one gets to take credit for unpredictable change (such as injury). Whether you want to believe that a critical injury is high probability or low probability is irrelevant – you have to be judicious in your allocation of risk and distribute that among the entire league.

I’d bet that if you go through and do a proper statistical exercise showing the variations between a team’s record from one season to the next – that you would be shown the probabilities favor a Blazer improvement. This particular team would have to suffer a low probability catastrophe to truly regress.

by blacknoiseNW on Oct 19, 2009 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well done.

"Is it always like this?" Collins said after the scrimmage. "It was like the first game of the NBA playoffs or something."

by Y5k on Oct 19, 2009 3:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Great work

And I want to be conservative about the wins for all the reasons that you mentioned, but I just don’t see this team actually losing that many games. Obviously adding Andre and healthy Greg to the mix is taking longer than we’d hope to come together nicely, but when the games start counting I have a feeling that they’ll find ways to win.

by fart on Oct 19, 2009 3:53 PM PDT reply actions  

I wouldn't be surprised to see a slow start

Miller, Oden and Webster are either new or improved. Travis maybe on the way out.

Lots of changes and adjustments. I’ll remember how last years team jelled after the all star break and try to be patient.

by raoulduke on Oct 19, 2009 3:57 PM PDT reply actions  

Expect a slow start and a hurricane finish

It seems likely we’ll struggle to improve the win mark we set last season, but could be a significantly better team going into the playoffs than we were last season.

Bring back the Uncle Cliffy!

by hawkblogger on Oct 19, 2009 4:05 PM PDT reply actions  

44-38

1/2 the team will get swine flu and the other half will get avian flu.

They’ll have to go in for tweetment for some oinkment.

"No disrespect to Jeff Blake"

by Eat Politicians on Oct 19, 2009 4:20 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

Rec for two puns but unrec for pessimistic prediction.

I don’t care if you were joking. Even if you were Joakim. No bull.

by MiledAnimal on Oct 19, 2009 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

If I use four puns next time

do I get a rec?

"No disrespect to Jeff Blake"

by Eat Politicians on Oct 19, 2009 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I will pun-nish you

"And in the end
The love you take
Is equal to the love you make." -The Beatles

by 92wastheyear on Oct 19, 2009 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hard.

"He who comes to us with a sword, shall die by the sword."

by L-TrainFTW! on Oct 19, 2009 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

west is unbelieveably stacked this year

i am predicting 53-29 but will be pleasantly surprised if the guys exceed last seasons win total

by Yawnie on Oct 19, 2009 5:29 PM PDT reply actions  

yeah I’m a homer…

58 wins and the NBA Championship

I truly do not think that is unreasonable.

2010 IS OUR YEAR PEOPLE!!!

by RastaMonsta on Oct 19, 2009 5:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Missing one, Ben, and more
Optimists see this as fate intervening on Portland’s behalf. Pessimists might see this as Pritchard’s broken clock being right twice a day.

Realists see a general manager who has repeatedly thrown changups in fastball situations and people believe his is purely lucky to get the third out on a pop-up. In non-baseball terms realists see that KP used his cap space to hurt both Toronto and Utah without spending a dime, still getting his point guard and having change left over for flexibility and only a two year contract obligation.

Howard has played better than scrap so far. No Sergio under key additions was cold. Like speaking ill of the newly departed.

You are welcome to your predictions to prove BE is first analytical, 2nd honest and 3rd loves to tweak its followers into discussion. Predict 62 wins and nobody but AK1984 discusses! Nice! We homers know you will come back to us after the world marvels at points 1 and 2.

"Either way we have two phenomenal units. I'm excited to play with either one." - Martell Webster

by lee3022 on Oct 19, 2009 7:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Really?

I mean, I often think people go a little over the top with the “KP meant to do this all along”, but how is it even possible to think that KP had any intention of not bringing Hedo here? If we didn’t want Hedo why would we risk agreeing to a deal with him that we would be stuck with? Why would we care about Toronto? They’re nowhere near contention and not even in our same conference. It’d be like boasting of how KP screwed Memphis by setting in motion the series of Z-Bo trades.

KP’s made some great moves, but he’s not infallible, and he’s certainly not manipulating the entire league.

by Royster on Oct 19, 2009 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

He should get credit for success, he’s in charge.

by goblazer1 on Oct 19, 2009 10:39 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

There's a difference between saying

he’s done a great job building a contender and asserting that everything he’s done since he’s been here has been part of some masterplan to screw the rest of the league at the same time.

by Royster on Oct 19, 2009 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

There is a difference between planning to get Hedo cheap and wanting him at any cost

The plan could have many nuances. We will never know all of them. But from the accounts Hedo not only got more money from Toronto (significantly more) but another year as well. KP had the means to do what Toronto did and chose not to spend that money (and players to trade as Toronto did). But he did know exactly what Toronto had available and he does have an incredible history of accurately predicting what other teams will do in the draft. Why is is such a stretch to consider that he had read this one accurately as well.

Either way he wins: one is to get Hedo relatively cheap and the other is to get the rival to pay more than the player is worth. Storyteller might provide the accurate numbers but the eventual contact Hedo is credited with receiving on his excellent website is approximately 60% more than Portland offered (with Toronto providing a player option and Portland providing a team option on year 5). Hedo might have been worth $30-35M to Portland but was worth $52.8M to Toronto. That disparity means Toronto left $20M on the table! That is a cold assassin move on KP’s part. Toronto may have been desperate to keep Bosh by overpaying for Hedo as reported and KP’s effort to sign Hedo quickly forced Toronto to act in haste.

Every team is a rival to KP. Soaking up that additional money keeps that same amount out of hands of the free agents for rest of the league. It is not only one team but all teams that lose out (because of trade abilities). It also served to cut Memphis out of the some of the free agent market for the future because it also used a big part of their cap. You can scoff at that if your wish but the combinations of moves is far more sophisticated than we can analyze with our limited knowledge. Think about the macro of all league money and realize that Portland will not be in the free agent market for many years after this year. That makes every team a rival that can potentially get better against Portland through free agency during that period.

KP seems to play chess in an extra dimension and the beauty of this summer is that most everyone thinkes he lost by losing Hedo so he is not now as feared by the public fans around the league. That fear seemed to be growing and I even think that it may have limited some GM’s from doing deals with Portland for the possible backlash from their fans. My approach is not homerism. It is admiration for the job so well accomplished. He has been widely seen as screwing up throughout his history and every time he comes up aces. There is no basis for scorning him this time as well. The end result is what counts and most here admit that the end result (acquiring Andre) is the best of outcomes.

"Either way we have two phenomenal units. I'm excited to play with either one." - Martell Webster

by lee3022 on Oct 20, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Where are you getting these numbers?

Every outlet I’ve seen reported our offer as $50 million over 5 years. Even if one was a team option, that’s still $40 million, and there’s simply no way that Toronto’s offer was $20 million more than ours. We made him an offer, he agreed to it verbally, then backed out. Using this backwards logic that KP didn’t try and beat Toronto’s offer as justification that he didn’t actually want to sign him to a $50 million contract in the first place is ridiculous.

As far as this:

My approach is not homerism. It is admiration for the job so well accomplished. He has been widely seen as screwing up throughout his history and every time he comes up aces. There is no basis for scorning him this time as well.

Since when is he seen as screwing up throughout his history? The sooner that people stop making up these perceived slights and ridiculous deification of KP, the easier it will be to realize that he’s not infallible. He’s one of the top GMs in the league, nothing more. That means he makes, on balance, a lot of positive moves, but there are mistakes in there. As we whine about not having a proper backup 4, it would be wise to remember that we drafted Kopponen at 30 in 2007 instead of taking Carl Landry (went at 31). How much have we gotten out of our last lotto pick?

Is this a big deal? No, not really. But no one’s perfect. Saying KP isn’t isn’t the same as scorning him.

by Royster on Oct 20, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

If KP were perfect he would have locked John Nash in a closet

during the 2005 draft and CP-3 would be a Blazer.

SPAM: Kevin, where’s John? The draft is about to start!

KP: I don’t know, Paul, but he told me if anything happened to him, draft Chris Paul.

Ah, if only.

by MiledAnimal on Oct 20, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it's the absurdity of homerism.

That aside, I feel the Portland Trail Blazers signing Paul Millsap to a frontloaded offer sheet was done mainly to take a stab at the Utah Jazz financially.

Stupid people have stupid ideas.

by AK1984 on Oct 20, 2009 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

That reminds me of last night's episode of ...

The Big Bang Theory, which featured Wil Wheaton.

Stupid people have stupid ideas.

by AK1984 on Oct 20, 2009 1:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

But it worked :)

Still it was just dumb luck that this chalice passed the Blazers. We would have overpaid for his 2 best seasons (one individually, one as a team), and while an improvement that contract would have hurt just when Roy & Co. would be in their prime.

"I think he can still play" - Kevin Pritchard on Juwan Howard

by Norsktroll on Oct 20, 2009 2:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Champions are built on luck as much as anything

EVERYTHING must line up properly in order to win an NBA championship. Talent isn’t enough. Front office smarts isn’t enough. You gotta get lots of breaks—including getting spurned by players you were all too ready to overpay.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Oct 20, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

I thought it wasn't luck?

And that he never intended to sign him all along? If he was ready to overpay him then it must not have been part of his masterplan, right? The fact that your explanation changes within three comments shows exactly how ridiculous the original premise was.

by Royster on Oct 20, 2009 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think you are replying here

to whom you think you are replying.

I can tell you how to make an Excel spreadsheet that proves Portland wins 62 games this year.

by jscot on Oct 20, 2009 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

bah, too true

my apologies to hurryup. The entirety of the ire in my comment should be directed at lee3022.

by Royster on Oct 20, 2009 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

See my repy above

Labeling it absurd is far more extreme and limiting in understanding than the presumption that it was part of the plan.

"Either way we have two phenomenal units. I'm excited to play with either one." - Martell Webster

by lee3022 on Oct 20, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Win predictions are meaningless - true milestones are winning the division & playoff seeding

Last season all went right for the Nuggets and they produced 54 wins and tied the Blazers for the Division title. This season, the Nuggets are going to have to show something very unexpected to hold off the Blazers and Spurs and repeat as the #2 seed in the West.

In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised at all if the Nuggets finish third in the division and no higher than 7th in the conference. Utah, Dallas, Portland and San Antonio are all improved at a greater rate than Denver – and wins in general will be harder to come by.

That is why I’ll bet that even if the Blazers do not get to 54 wins – their playoff seeding will be #2 or #3 by virtue of winning the NW.

by blacknoiseNW on Oct 19, 2009 7:41 PM PDT reply actions  

That is why I’ll bet that even if the Blazers do not get to 54 wins – their playoff seeding will be #2 or #3 by virtue of winning the NW.


They could win the division and end up 4th seed. That could easily happen with two teams from the SW division having better records than the Blazers (SA, Dal, maybe NO).

put a body on 'em

by RayBourque on Oct 19, 2009 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also - lets not forget the First Law of Thermodynamics
“Energy can neither be created nor destroyed. It can only change forms.

In any process in an isolated system, the total energy remains the same."

This tells us that the West can only get stronger if there has been an overall influx of talent greater than the loss of talent – and those teams that were cannon fodder last season are going to be tougher outs this season. In other words – game changing talent has to be injected into the league and that talent has to be allocated disproportionately to teams that had fewer wins last season.

The Clippers qualify under this definition. But so do the Spurs. You can certainly argue that losing Randolph, adding Griffin and staying healthy (Mr. Baron Davis) are going to make the Clippers a tougher out this season – but will it translate to wins against the Spurs? Probably not. Will it translate to wins against the Blazers? Probably not. Will it translate to wins against the Nuggets. I hope so. So on, and so forth.

Overall, we may be overestimating the improvement that some of the bottom feeders made, and underestimating some of the improvement made at the top. Phoenix? They are reduced in potency. Sacramento? Meh. Houston? Reduced in potency. Golden State? Who? OKC??? Minnesota? Memphis????

I don’t know about you, but AI going to Memphis doesn’t strike me as a swing toward equilibrium, err, parity in the league. More of the change is going to affect how the middle is distributed, but the upper crust, including the Blazers, isn’t giving anything up.

by blacknoiseNW on Oct 19, 2009 8:11 PM PDT reply actions  

I actually think a decent number of bottom feeders have made underrated improvements

If only because of how bad those teams were last year. Minny with a healthy Jefferson for the full year, Sessions and Flynn, and a more experienced Love will almost certainly be better.

OKC has Krstic and Thabo all year, no PJ for the first quarter of the season, and are adding a top 3 pick. Plus, pretty much everyone on their team is of an age where they are expected to improve.

As you said, the Clippers could potentially even be a playoff team if they have a healthy Baron contributing at 2006-2008 levels. Gordon will be better, Griffin looks like a ROY lock, and Camby/Kaman should be healthy. I’m not sure why that could contribute to harder games for the Nuggets but not for the Spurs and the Blazers.

Sure, Memphis and Sacto are still looking bad, but those previous teams were flat out terrible last year, and odds are they won’t be so bad this year. Even if it just makes them a tougher out, they could still steal wins against us on off nights, or just force the team to expend more energy against them, leaving them more vulnerable against better teams. Not too mention that the Blazers weren’t exactly a targeted team last year. We’ll have a much bigger target on our backs this year so teams will get up more to play us. No more sneaking up on teams anymore.

by Royster on Oct 19, 2009 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

more experienced Love will almost certainly be better.

You heard Kevin just broke his hand, right?

When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Oct 19, 2009 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

4 weeks missed at the start of the season

doesn’t mean he’s not playing this year. Plus, missing a month of Love is much less significant than missing half a season of Jefferson.

by Royster on Oct 19, 2009 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Very well-written preview!

I can get behind nearly all of it. I’d like to think the win total will be a wee bit higher, but then again it could take a while to mesh as you stated, which could easily have the Blazers at 52. The only disagreement I have is that I think the Blazers win the NW Division outright.

I like to think I’m a decent writer when I put my mind to it. But then I read your stuff and Dave’s, and I realize both of you just have a better way with words. I see phrases that make me wish I’d written them. Much admiration….and a little bit of jealousy! ;-)

"I'm a man, but I can change.....if I have to......I guess." - Red Green

by antediluvian on Oct 19, 2009 8:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Another preview after the first 10 games

The first ten games offers a good mixture of good and bad teams . If we start out slow as the team meshes the number of overall wins may be lower, then we can only hope that they are like our first Championship Team and finish strong. A 9 and 1 start could leave no room left on the bandwagon!!!

by dawgman47 on Oct 19, 2009 8:53 PM PDT reply actions  

60 wins?!!

Are you kidding, more like 55-58 wins this season

by Mr. RipCity on Oct 19, 2009 9:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Schedule is NOT tough early, we need to SHINE!

For everybody predicting north of 55 wins, we need to START FAST!
Take a look at our early competion – not exactly fearsome:
vs Houston , vs Denver (1,1)
@ Houston , @ Oklahoma City (1,1)
vs Atlanta, vs San Antonio, vs Minnesota (2-1)
@ Memphis, @ Minnesota , @ New Orleans, @ Charlotte, @ Atlanta (3-2)
vs Detroit (1-0)
@ Golden State (1-0)
-then big easy homecourt 4 wins ws
vs Minnesota
vs Chicago
vs New Jersey
vs Memphis
give us…
11-5.. anything less is a disappointment to me,… and in fact, 15-1 is o so achievable for this soon to be great team…

by Visionary2 on Oct 19, 2009 9:40 PM PDT reply actions  

dont get ahead of yourself there

none of those games are a given although we are strong favourites for at least half

by Yawnie on Oct 19, 2009 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mike Ruffin's minivan is a tough loss.

I thought he should have replaced Blaze as the mascot.

Life is hilarious.

by SolGoode on Oct 19, 2009 9:59 PM PDT reply actions  

That would be his daily supply?

"Either way we have two phenomenal units. I'm excited to play with either one." - Martell Webster

by lee3022 on Oct 20, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

52 wins = 4th in the WC... good call.

Most of the nonplayoff teams from last year look improved. I think the last two “top heavy” years in the WC were an aberration.

That being said, I think Oden’s development will more than offset this. I’ll say 55 wins, 3rd in the WC, and I have a weird feeling that Miller may end up getting benched at some point and paired with Rudy as a super-sub combo meal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exOxUAntx8I&feature=channel_page

by The Cactus Leaguer on Oct 19, 2009 10:44 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm going to predict 54 wins again, but ...

I think we are more likely to fall short than exceed that number. A much more difficult back-to-back games differential (ours vs opponents back-to-backs) makes this year’s schedule much harder than last year. I think we will win the NW and lose in the 2nd round. But if we can avoid LA and San Antonio in the first and second rounds, we can get to the conference finals.

I had us pegged for 58 wins pre-preseason, but I think we are going to start out too slowly now. The rotation will be unsettled for a month to 6 weeks, Rudy’s back means he starts slowly with less contribution, and Webster won’t be a factor early. I think our perimeter defense will be more of a problem this year than last. I think we will be less effective in 4th quarter early in the season leading to losses we would have won last year. But by mid-season I think we will adjust to Miller and Oden’s new skills, have a good rotation down, and finish the year playing stronger than last.

by BlazerFanSince1970 on Oct 19, 2009 11:11 PM PDT reply actions  

finish the year playing stronger than last.

It would be hard to finish this upcoming regular season “stronger” than last year, the Blazer’s point differentials for the last month of last season were off the charts

But if you meant finish stronger in the playoffs next spring, then that’s truly what it’s all about. Advancing past the first round is the minimum goal, another “1 round and out” will (and should) cast doubt on Nate’s coaching acumen, and KP’s post-season roster building ability.

When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Oct 19, 2009 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I predicted (above) we will win in the first round of the playoffs,

and lose in the 2nd round. But if we avoid LA or San Antonio, I think we have a reasonable chance to win in the 2nd round and get to the conference finals.

What’s your prediction (I missed it)?

by BlazerFanSince1970 on Oct 20, 2009 12:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why are people freaking out over total wins?

It doesn’t matter how many games we win as long as we win the Northwest or at least make it to the post season. I know by the end of the season we’ll have it together and probably catch fire. But you know what? I’d be sooo happy with 50 wins.

Success isn’t measured by number of wins alone.

The Blazers have many years ahead of 60+ win seasons ahead. This season is going to be successful, but it won’t be one of them.

2012

by OVERTIME on Oct 19, 2009 11:16 PM PDT reply actions  

What is the point Ben...

Of cheap shoting Sergio in this thread? Do you really think that his lack of talent was holding the blazers back?

If so then then isn’ t your beef with the entire organization including Nates inability to spot a lack of talent in the person in question?

Is it your opinion that Sergio was some kind of cancer , a lazy individual or a magican that had that ability to cloud the minds of reasonable men ?

I’m certain that in a fistfight that sergio would beat your ass so what did you expect to gain by presenting such a disrespectful comment towards him?

by meatwad3 on Oct 20, 2009 3:41 AM PDT reply actions  

File it under “Trying to be funny.” I loved Serge but he was polarizing. Ben’s just joking.

by goblazer1 on Oct 20, 2009 9:41 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

and the unintentional comedy award goes to....

"I just sort of know that around the water cooler they talk of reality tv stars, and I strictly drink coffee." -- EvilKaramazov

by BlazersOrBust on Oct 20, 2009 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

What we need

is another “streak”…….like the 13 gamer we had two years ago. That would push us into the 57-58 win area, solidify the NW division and create insane Blazermania. Plus I could then sell the games I could not go to for more….allowing me to buy more $10 beer at the games I do go to.

by Iluvdisteam on Oct 20, 2009 5:03 AM PDT reply actions  

You guys do realize . . .

That someone has to photoshop a picture of Crockett and Tubbs with the faces of Przybilla and Oden now, right?

by TonyStatham on Oct 20, 2009 6:42 AM PDT reply actions  

subtractions/additions

“No Sergio Rodriguez” listed as an ADDITION. OUCH!

by lsjogren on Oct 20, 2009 9:49 AM PDT reply actions  

Sergio

Face it, having a Serge on the same team as a Sarge is asking for trouble, just like it would to have an Odom along with and Oden.

by lsjogren on Oct 20, 2009 10:00 AM PDT reply actions  

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