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Who's your ideal mid-season pick-up? Here's mine.

I realize the regular season hasn't even started yet, so thinking about mid-season trade scenarios is more than a little premature.  But I can't help myself.  Given the state of the economy and the quality of next year's free agent market, I can't help but think that there will be some teams looking to move some quality players by the trading deadline.  So who would you ideally like to pick up?  And what's the scenario under which that happens? 

Here's my personal dream scenario.

The way I see it, the one thing the Blazers are missing now is a long term solution at PG.  In Roy, Aldridge, and Oden, we have our long-term starters at SG, PF, and C set.  And we have plenty of young talent at SF.  I personally see Nic Batum as the long term starting SF.  But I don't see either Blake or Miller as a long-term solution at PG, and while I think Bayless will be a decent NBA player someday, I think he'll probably end up being a sixth man combo guard (like Jarrett Jack or Nate Robinson), not a starting PG. 

The way I see it, the ideal Blazer PG would be someone who is relatively young, but already a proven commodity; someone who is a good distributor and long distance shooter, but isn't focused on scoring. Someone who doesn't turn the ball over, has a high basketball IQ, and is clutch.  

The person who I think would complete the Blazer puzzle is Jose Calderon.  He's 28 (which means he has many good years left), but he's already an established near-all star level PG.  He's a true point guard with an astounding assist-to-turnover ratio.  He's a guy who shoots over 40% from 3 point range and made 98% of his free throws last year.  Calderon's only notable weakness is that he's not a particularly good defender (though he was playing injured for much of last year, so he's better than his play last year would suggest).  But nobody's perfect.  I think Calderon's offensive presence would make up for any defensive liability.  He's that good.  And I think he would beautifully compliment Roy.   He also happens to be the best PG who I think is realistically acquirable by trade (at least without giving up key pieces of our own team).   

So is Calderon gettable in a mid-season deal?  It's unlikely, but you never know.  The Raptors have a very high payroll and will be at a crucial cross-roads at the end of the season when Bosh becomes a free agent.  If Toronto does poorly in the first half of the season, I can see a scenario under which they'd be willing to trade Calderon. 

For instance, suppose Toronto is underperforming, but Jarrett Jack is playing really well.  Wouldn't they at least consider a trade that nets them several talented guys in the near term and much more salary cap flexibility at the end of the season?  That could be accomplished by shipping Blake and Outlaw to Toronto (both of whom have expiring contracts) along with Bayless. I'm admittedly not a salary cap guru, but I think such a trade could be made to work, especially if you toss in another Raptor or use Toronto's trade exemptions (Calderon's salary is $8.2 and Blake/Outlaw/Bayless currently make about $9.6 combined.) Blake is not as good as Calderon, obviously, but he's a decent PG.  Outlaw would provide scoring, and Bayless would provide some longer term talent. 

The Blazers, meanwhile, would be able to simplify their rotation and would have a long term, all-star caliber starting PG.  It's one of those rare trades that might well make both teams better.  Whether Toronto would see it that way is hard to know, but it's at least conceivable. 

What do you think?  Love the idea?  Hate it?  What's your dream mid-season scenario?

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by Outlaw is Rejector on Oct 19, 2009 11:01 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Calderon is a great catch-and-shooter and passer who also doesn’t turn the ball over when bringing it up court. Unfortunately not that good on defense or creating his own shot on offense or driving inside. A rich man’s Blake. Not so sure if he would be an upgrade over Andre even if that would happen. Nate would probably like him, but he also seems to like what he has now.

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by Norsktroll on Oct 19, 2009 11:19 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

But Miller is not a long term solution

I agree with you. I think Calderon is rich-man’s version of Blake. He does what Blake does, only better, which is why I think he would be a good fit for the Blazers. I’m not sure whether Calderon is a upgrade over Miller on a pure talent level, but I think that he’s 1) 5 years younger than Miller, and 2) probably a better fit w/ Brandon Roy and the Blazer starting five.

Plus, as Miller gets older, he’ll become more suited for the backup PG role. Why not have Calderon start and Miller come off the bench?

by UDUB on Oct 19, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Calderon = poor man's Captain

The most sensible acquisition for Portland at the point was, is, and forever will be the Captain. He can shoot outside AND play D AND create a little something something off the pick and roll.

The captain is a rich man’s Blake who brings skills to the table in areas where Blake is weak. Calderon is a rich man’s Blake who only does the things Blake does – he just does them better – without really bringing new dimensions to the table.

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by KP Corleone on Oct 19, 2009 11:56 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

perhaps Kirk would be something to hope for

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by 22baylor on Oct 19, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Calderon is better than Hinrich

While I agree that Hinrich is a much better defender (and that’s not an insignificant consideration), I still think Calderon is a better player and a better long term solution at PG. Hinrich is a combo guard. Calderon is true a PG; he’s a much better distributor than Hinrich (look at his assist per 40 and assist-to-turnover ratio). And Calderon is just as good a scorer/shooter as Hinrich.

I do think Hinrich would be an upgrade on Blake, however, and he’s much more realistically obtainable than Calderon. No matter how they’re doing, I think Chicago would probably trade Hinrich mid-season for a package of Blake/Outlaw/Bayless.

by UDUB on Oct 19, 2009 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Based on what?

Calderon is borderline all star. Hinrich is a backup. I don’t think there are very many GMs who would take Hinrich over Calderon, if given the choice.

by UDUB on Oct 19, 2009 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Based on defense.

On offense Hinrich basically does the same things as Calderon, besides the low TO% (which is certainly important), except he plays lock down defense. Calderon is very poor defender.

I would trade the free throw shooting and low turnovers for stellar defense any day. Hinrich is also underated on offense, he was a big reason Boston struggled against the Bulls last season.

"We first have to stop Kirk Hinrich. He just can’t keep coming in and hurting us and giving them a spark. We shut Kirk Hinrich down and we can close out the series.-Kendrick Perkins"

“I’m going to tell you exactly what I think about him, OK? I think he’s one of the top defenders in the game, in the league. He reminds me of Jerry Sloan, he reminds me of Michael Cooper. And just like the Chicago Bulls whined about Dwyane, who was getting too many free throws, a great defender like Kirk Hinrich gets away with more.” “He’s into you, he’s relentless. He has a reputation as a tough defender and he gets away with more.”-Pat Riley

“Kirk Hinrich (-6.09) re-established himself as one of the league’s better defenders in the backcourt after missing some time with an injury, though you wish he wouldn’t leave his feet quite so much. I’ve never thought quite as highly of Andre Miller (-4.40) or Raymond Felton (-2.36), but each defended both backcourt spots more than adequately and their strong adjusted plus-minus numbers warrant a shout-out here, too "-Hollinger.

I’m certainly not saying Calderon is bad by any means, but saying he’s better than Hinrich is completely ignoring one half of the game.

by Nick Van Excellent on Oct 19, 2009 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

When Toronto still had TJ Ford

I proposed a Rudy for Calderon deal in the summer of ’08, with the idea that it would help both teams

Since then, KP has upgraded the PG position and the immediate need isn’t to add another veteran PG. I suspect Blake will be resigned to an extension and Portland’s PG position will be in good hands for the next 2-3 seasons. At some point a younger PG will have to be acquired, but there’s no rush to do this in Feb.

veteran backup PF/C in, Outlaw out. Then Portland will be ready for the playoffs. Rudy will eventually need to be dealt, because he can only guard the same position (SG) as Roy

When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Oct 19, 2009 1:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree

I agree with this. I don’t think Portland needs to acquire another PG. That said, if the opportunity to acquire Calderon presents itself—and all we have to give up to get him is some combination of Blake, Outlaw, and Bayless—I’d take that in a second. I think that would be a major upgrade.

by UDUB on Oct 19, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think for the next two years

Backup PF or better yet a backup PF who can play backup C in a pinch, is a much bigger need than a PG. What the heck would we do with both Calderon and Miller?

Miller will still be a good player for the next two years at least. Maybe picking up a young guy (think Ramon Sessions type) to play backup PG and eventually succeed Andre makes sense, but we have a starting PG.

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by austinpwnz on Oct 19, 2009 2:42 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

I completely agree. But if a really good deal were to surface (such as one that brings Calderon to PDX for players we’re likely to part with anyway), I don’t think we can afford to pass it up. I don’t think we need to look for a PG now. But good bargains only come along every once in a while. If one presents itself, we should take it.

by UDUB on Oct 19, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Bayless continues to impress,

and management sees him as the point guard of the future, I could see trading Travis and Blake to Miami for Haslem. Start giving Bayless some serious minutes, and have an outstanding backup PF. Not sure if Miami would be interested, or how thrilled Haslem would be, but worth a thought. If management doesn’t think Bayless is a PG, then I think there is no hurry to get a young PG, but we need to keep our eyes open. If mgmt. is pessimistic about retaining Rudy in the future, and they see Bayless as a combo that could adequately replace Rudy, we could put a package together of Rudy and/or Travis and/or Blake and possibly get that top notch PG.

by crakarjack on Oct 19, 2009 3:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

For me it's impossible to know what we'll need in February...

…until we see what we have. If we come out like gang busters and play up to the potential we have then we won’t be looking for anyone. If that doesn’t happen it will depend on who isn’t measuring up.

I don’t think PG is where we will be looking to improve in February if we are in fact looking to improve. Actually I don’t see us needing anything specific right now but injuries or performance may change that by the deadline.

by Ilikeemall on Oct 19, 2009 4:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Down a point guard

Trading Blake and Bayless leaves you with only two point guards. Injure one and you are automatically into trying to get Roy and Rudy to play a roll for which they are not ideally suited. Roy handles the ball, but that doesn’t make him a true point.

by Interested on Oct 19, 2009 4:04 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

you can't build your team around insuring against injuries

And you shouldn’t, especially at the PG position. If we had Calderon and Miller and one of them happened to get injured, we would do what most other teams do in that situation, we would pick up new backup PG from the D-league or Europe or off waivers and keep them on the roster until our injured player got healthy. Most teams only have one decent point guard. We would have two and thus would be better positioned than nearly any other team. You don’t need three PGs on your roster, especially on a team with two starting caliber PGs and a starting SG who plays point much of the game.

by UDUB on Oct 19, 2009 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

KP collects PGs

The former Kansas PG almost made it through the draft this year without selecting one, but he couldn’t resist taking a flier on Mills at 55

I think KP would love to GM a team in a league of PGs and wings

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by two4larue on Oct 19, 2009 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The banger backup PF

we cried for last season before the tradeline remains the problem. KP went after the right guys in Millsap and Lee. Shame about Millsap but I bet Lee is still available. He’d be very nice on our front line. Howard does some good things but he can’t play a whole season all out, what with old legs and all. I still think Ronny Turiaff is the best fit for us at backup even if he’s not as good as Lee. He has a lot more swag and he dances better than Lee. Let’s get him.

by oregonslee on Oct 19, 2009 6:22 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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by thomasikehara on Oct 19, 2009 6:38 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

this is easy... and what we should have already done.

We didn’t need a crappy version of Roy: Miller

We needed a better version of Blake: Hinrich

I don't hate the Lakers, I hate their stupid fans.

by In Walks Rudy on Oct 19, 2009 7:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

KP had a shot at Cap'n Kirk, last Feb

he had RLEC to offer Chi-town and Blake with an injured shoulder…but he didn’t want to disrupt the team’s chemistry. Sometimes you just have to pull the trigger and accept whatever criticism may come, because it will come, regardless

But I wouldn’t put Miller and “crappy” in the same sentence. Andre is like Rod Strickland, and that’s not a bad PG to have running the show for the next few years

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by two4larue on Oct 19, 2009 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Um...

I love Kirk Hinrich. I really, really have a soft spot for him. I think he’s unbelievable on defense and would probably fit with the Blazers better than Miller.

Having said that, I still think Miller is miles ahead of him offensively. He’s probably the second best player on the team (Unless Oden breaks out), and certainly not a “crappy” version of Roy.

Miller is a better passer, better post player, smarter basketball player, was a better defender.(Might still be)

by Nick Van Excellent on Oct 19, 2009 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

crappy is overboard

I love Miller. I’m just saying he is a lot like Roy, and Roy needs a Blake type player to be most affective. Kirk would have been great.

I don't hate the Lakers, I hate their stupid fans.

by In Walks Rudy on Oct 19, 2009 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kirk would have been great.

I don’t know if Roy NEEDS a Blake type player to be affective. Just like Ginobli does fine playing next to Tony Parker (19-65 from 3 last season). I think there are a couple problems with Miller and none of them are his fault.:

1.) Portland was already a crappy defensive team, and while Miller isn’t horrible he doesn’t really help much.

2.) Nate isn’t exactly known as heady coach. Miller has a very specific and unique game, which calls for a specific and unique game plan. The plays that worked for Blake were about simplicity and spacing, it’s going to take more creative coaching to make it work well for Miller. He either needs a good coach, or a coach with very loose reigns. I think Nate might be in over his head.

by Nick Van Excellent on Oct 19, 2009 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kirk coming to Portland was one of those things that made too much sense not to happen

and then it didn’t.

I remember a report of Hinrich saying he expected to go to Portland (offseason rumours I know but still). It was looking like a sure thing.

Still bums me out. Hinrich or Conley and Blair was what I was hoping for over summer. Miller and Howard not so much.

by MadBlaze on Oct 20, 2009 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Miller and Howard not so much.

Yeah, they’re here and I support them as veteran Blazers who can help the kids learn how to grind out playoff victories. but I had a lot higher expectations for RLEC, and KP

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by two4larue on Oct 20, 2009 12:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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by Eat Politicians on Oct 21, 2009 12:36 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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