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Media Row Report: Blazers 104 Suns 110

Boxscore.

Since the game wasn't televised I thought I'd go with an untraditional write-up again tonight.  The goal here is to give you as much raw description as possible.

Let me first say it was a competitive game in a great atmosphere: the Memorial Coliseum provided a whole different intensity level and the Suns came in looking for a win.  As promised, Nate McMillan stuck with a 10 man rotation, although Rudy Fernandez left the game with back spasms at halftime and did not return and Nic Batum was pretty much given the night off again, so it was more like an 8 man rotation. 

Let's go through each player individually and then I'll close with a few thoughts.

Brandon Roy

McMillan wasn't kidding when he said he was looking to get Roy touches: the very first play of the game saw Roy in an isolation on the left hand side, which he promptly missed.  To make matters worse, he failed to get back on defense as his man leaked out, leading to an uncontested layup on the other end.  A disappointing start from a player who promised to step up the team's defensive intensity at yesterday's practice.  It would get better. 

Tonight we saw Roy with the ball in his hands in pick-and-roll after pick-and-roll. From the side, from the top, going left, going right. It's hard to recall him really settling for his favorite shot -- the face-up 15 to 17 footer -- all night.  He simply wasn't looking for it: if it wasn't a pick and roll, he was attacking his defender's body to get into the paint, where he had a fair bit of success both finishing and dishing the ball to open teammates.

One big thing to note up: Aldridge was almost exclusively looking to slip to the hoop during pick and rolls at the top of the key. It's unclear whether this was taking place simply because of how Phoenix was playing defense or because this is a new focus for the team's offense. Brandon would lull the defense with a change of pace dribble at the top and once he found LaMarcus's man (Stoudemire or Amundson) committing too far or leaning too much, Aldridge would release quickly to the basket.  Aldridge finished a couple of these before Phoenix adjusted, rotating defenders over. This then necessitated an extra pass from Aldridge to find the open man on the wings.  Cat and mouse.  In any case, the Roy/Aldridge pick and slip is a new offensive weapon that, judging by how often they went to it tonight, we should see more of in the future. 

When Brandon wasn't using picks it was usually because Jared Dudley was guarding him and he realized that it was a green light to do work.  Early in the game, he drove by Dudley for an easy lefty layup -- the kind he's made 100s of times -- and then began drawing more attention on later forays to the hoop.  In the first half, he was able to draw Frye's attention and then complete a nifty dump pass to a wide open Greg Oden for a forceful slam; late in the second half, he was able to get into the paint and find a cutting Andre Miller -- seemingly from out of thin air -- for another point blank attempt.  

The chemistry between Roy and Oden -- as I wrote yesterday -- is still developing but is taking strides. Aside from the drive-and-dishes to Oden we also saw a quick swing pass from Roy to Oden that led to a frustration foul to prevent an Oden layup. On the down side, we also saw an off-the-mark entry pass that sailed off Oden's finger tips and out-of-bounds.  After that one, Roy did the "my bad" chest thump as Oden stared at his hands.  Not quite there yet.

Brandon finished with 11 points, 3 rebounds and 5 assists.  He went 4 of 13 largely because he couldn't hit a jumper and because, late in the game, he was attempting to draw fouls while shooting and the refs weren't biting.

Greg Oden

Hands down the most promising performance from any Blazer.  The desire to temper expectations for Oden is getting harder and harder to pay lip service to.  There is simply too much to like about his performance tonight and throughout camp.  I understand that he was matched up against undersized 4s playing 5 but the NBA happens to be in a big man recession: centers are 20 percent off these days.

After the game Nate McMillan seemed quite upset with the team's defensive effort, and answered a question about Greg's performance by essentially dismissing the solid offensive output and calling on him to do more defensively.  All things considered, I thought Oden played at least adequately -- if not better -- on the defensive side of the ball.  He was smiling after the game thinking about how he had chased Frye all over the court and he did a solid job of challenging Nash's jumpers (which were falling all night) after the pick-and-roll switches without getting called for fouls (he had just 1 foul in 28 minutes of action).  He also had 3 blocks -- one swatting a Barbosa shot near its pinnacle and another denying an Amar'e shot almost before it left his hand.  Both times he was straight up with no potential to foul.  Love to see that.  

As a testament to how thoroughly Oden dominated the glass (13 boards), the Suns managed just 5 offensive rebounds as a team.  In sum, both on the glass and defensively, I thought Oden did exactly what he was expected to do and he did it better than is fair to expect from him at this point.

Let's get to the offense which is what everyone who was in the Memorial Coliseum will likely be gushing about: 8 of 10 from the field for 17 points. I took pretty diligent notes on this game, here are a few regarding Greg...

  • right hand drop step over Frye, flips it in
  • Oden offensive rebound, jump hook putback
  • seals Frye, ball swung from left to right, open layup converted
  • Oden grabs 2 offensive boards in one possession, it ends with a layup
That list doesn't include the dunk mentioned above set up by Brandon Roy and a few other chippers. it was point blank make after point blank make for Oden tonight.  He was active in the paint from start to finish and was really putting in work: digging deep to keep up with transition, fighting for position on the block, attacking the glass after missed shots, you name it.  

After hearing Brandon's praise for Greg's sealing ability yesterday, I kept a close eye on it tonight.  As usual, Brandon is right on with his assessments.  Oden generally found himself with his defender on his back and was able to hold his position with his left arm while keeping his right arm raised with his right hand as an active, moving target.  The Blazers were clearly looking to post him on many occasions, particularly in the first half, and the ball would swing from the corner, to the angle, to the top and back with Oden rotating his body position looking to get basket side on his defender.  He nearly had another dunk after successfully sealing his defender as described, but was thwarted by Jared Dudley who snuck in from the farside corner to swipe the ball free at the last second.  Another time, he sealed Frye and forced the defense to rotate and was able to send a bounce pass to Travis Outlaw for an uncontested dunk.  Great read, great reaction, safe pass, good result. 

It wasn't a perfect night offensively.  He missed a few opportunities to roll actively to the hoop after setting picks and, down the stretch, he actually got in the way of an Andre Miller drive attempt because he wasn't anticipating Miller's actions properly.   

Interestingly, Przybilla was the first sub in off the Blazers bench in both the 1st and 3rd quarters (about 6 minutes in both times) and Oden was not in the team's closing game lineup (Blake, Miller, Roy, Outlaw, Aldridge).  Greg had 14 of his 17 points in the first half and it was disconcerting to see both Roy and Miller go away from him down the stretch. 

Martell Webster

Martell got an extended look tonight (15 points, 5 boards, 2 assists in 24 minutes) and I'll say this about him: it's never just in the middle, it's either way high or way low right now.  

On the positive side, he attacked the glass, getting an aggressive putback after flying through the air during the first quarter and finishing a nice dunk on a push-the-tempo pass from Miller.  In the most memorable play of the entire game, he tried to posterize Amar'e, crashing to the ground hard on his right forearm as the ball caromed off.  Scary moment but he appeared to be ok.

During the first quarter there was no other way to put it: Martell was a defensive liability.  Despite being matched up against Carlos Powell (who?) he cost his teams points by not closing out on back-to-back Powell 3s.  Soon after, Nate took a timeout.  The first play after the timeout saw another Powell 3 point attempt -- this time Martell was in his mug.  I think we can assume Nate gently reminded him that closing out on shooters is an important aspect of team defense.

Overall his performance was good but a bit hyper.  He made a 3 and then later airballed a 3; it was that kind of night.  He was succeeding because he was going 100% but despite the full effort he didn't quite find the game's flow.  

In my opinion, Batum has to remain the starter thanks to his stability.  Martell made a solid case tonight for a change-of-pace, big-minute reserve role.    

Andre Miller

Forget about all the off-the-court stuff, I guarantee that Andre Miller will be the most polarizing player on the court as well.  Why?  Because he continually takes risks -- seeking them out just for fun -- and they regularly don't end how he expects them too.  Like any good risk-taker he doesn't dwell on the failures, constantly looking ahead to the next play, for the next advantage. He ended the night with the team's most impressive individual line (25 points, 5 rebounds, 6 assists, 2 turnovers) but there were some negative indicators as well.

The surest weapon in his arsenal right now is his pull-up, shot-put jumper which he took and hit both in mini-transition and off-the-dribble tonight.  He's pretty money from 15-18.  That's in all the scouting reports, of course, but we got to see it again tonight.  One example: a pump fake that had rookie Earl Clark way up in the air, drew contac and made the jumper anyway for an and-one.  Great body control, underrated athleticism.  

Another weapon that I wrote about last week is his ability to push the ball after both makes and misses. The Suns drive their fans crazy sometimes with their inability to consistently get back on defense and Miller surely knows that scouting report inside and out. He was looking to push the ball up regularly, with good success.

There was also a weapon that we hadn't yet seen before and that drew some murmurs along press row: a 4th quarter corner 3 off a dish from Brandon.

Here's the bad news for Miller: when push came to shove in the fourth quarter, the Suns ran their offense right at him and there was nothing he could do to stop it.  Play after play after play, the Blazers needed stops to pull back into the game and the Suns simply let Nash go to work. Time after time Nash delivered: pull-up jumper, drive to the bucket for a foul, beautifully executed pick and roll to Amar'e for a dunk, etc.  Dre's nice night was wiped off the books by Nash's even better night (23 points, 15 assists, 2 steals).

It wasn't just Nash's superiority, though.  It was also Dre's determination to attack the hoop, other options be damned.  With about 9 minutes to go, he started really going after his man, first Barbosa and then Dragic.  He first drew a foul and then on the next possession he dribbled the ball off of his own foot.  No looks to Oden. No real looks to Aldridge. Indeed, the two bigs combined for just 4 fourth quarter points.  That's a problem, especially on a night when they combine for 37 points.  Those numbers are on Dre (and Roy too).

LaMarcus Aldridge

LaMarcus wasn't dominating but he was shooting well: 20 points on 9 of 17 shooting, 7 boards and 3 assists.  He ran some high/low looks with Greg and, as mentioned above, was regularly setting picks for Brandon.  He is covering a lot of ground in the offense this year although his shot selection looks a lot like it did last year: mid-range jumpers.

LaMarcus's had two real offensive highlights.  First, he aggressively crashed the offensive boards to chase down a Przybilla miss, converting it for an uncontested putback. Second, he recognized the Suns were sagging their interior defense onto Oden and snuck to the weakside block, signalling for an alley-oop from Miller.  The over-the-top pass was on the money and Aldridge's dunk finish was authoritative.  Prettty nice highlight.

On defense, Aldridge was relatively successful, holding Amar'e to 15 points.  The most frustrating aspect of his defense was seeing him automatically switch on a regular basis, rather than showing hard and recovering like McMillan said we should expect.   Miller was having some difficulty -- especially in the first half -- fighting through picks but too often it seemed Aldridge welcomed the switch, despite the mismatches that it created.  I would imagine the game tape has a number of teachable moments on pick-and-roll defense for Aldridge tonight. 

Steve Blake

Blake had an unremarkable night, connecting on 2 free throws for his only points of the game and dishing out 4 assists in just under 20 minutes.  Unfortunately, he also had 3 turnovers which seemed to be the by-product of an over-aggressive approach we never really saw from him last year.  Is he pushing too hard trying to keep up with Miller?  Possibly.  

The highlight of his night, though, was a push-ahead pass off of a made 3 pointer to a rim-running LaMarcus Aldridge for an uncontested dunk.  On the money.  The lowlight was back-to-back poor passes on a single possession: a failed alley oop followed by a sailed pass well over his target's hands.  

Upon further reflection, the skill gap between Miller and Blake is such that Miller could probably give 5 more interviews with Marc Spears and still be the starting point guard.  But that doesn't mean there aren't issues to be ironed out with Miller starting.  Unfortunately, it's also easy to imagine Blake's productivity taking a pretty solid hit playing backup minutes with other reserves, rather than alongside the starting unit.

Travis Outlaw

Travis finished with 10 points and 4 boards but his second half play was some of the ugliest I have ever seen during his entire time with the Blazers.  He missed multiple shots in a row, committed back-to-back careless turnovers, and then followed all of that up with a long 3 pointer that failed to draw iron.  A lot of fans and media observers were mumbling under their breath during the stretch.  Tough to watch.

With that said, Travis did find himself the recipient of a few easy dunks and, repeating what we saw against Sacramento last week, he seems to be a regular target when the Blazers look to push the ball.  It remains to be seen how often the Blazers will actually push tempo once opposing teams start to lock down on defense.  But if and when the team does run, Travis looks to profit in these situations more than he has in years past. 

Joel Przybilla

As mentioned, Joel (2 points, 8 boards) was the first sub in during both the 1st and 3rd quarters and you could see, as soon as he checked in, that he was going out of his way to get himself into the flow of the game after sitting. He wasn't particularly successful at that, missing a number of close-range shots. He did enjoy a lot of success gathering defensive rebounds, as he usual does, and as should be expected against a team like Phoenix.

His rotation situation mirrors Blake's. With Oden playing so well, the skill gap between the two players seems larger than ever before. It's almost impossible to see Joel being as productive on the second unit as he was on the first unit last year. Those are the breaks I guess.

Rudy Fernandez

A non-factor in 9 minutes. 0 points, 1 rebound, 1 assist.  He didn't return from the locker room at halftime due to back spasms and will "most likely" not play tomorrow night in Utah, according to Nate McMillan after the game.

My vote is to simply rest Rudy until the regular season.  The Blazers will need his change-of-pace off the bench, especially if Travis Outlaw isn't able to produce efficiently on offense. Give him a few weeks off to rest and heal.

Nic Batum

Nic saw limited action (just 8 minutes) tonight and didn't exactly light up the box (2 points, 1 board, 1 assists, 1 steal).  Half of that production came on a single play shortly after he checked in, when he smartly made a steal in transition and passed the ball ahead to Travis Outlaw for a dunk.  It was the kind of play that made you think, "That's why he'll be starting."  

Final Thoughts

  • Blazers Broadcaster Bill Schonely sang "God Bless America" (quite well, I should add) before the game but he did not sing the National Anthem.  In fact, no one did. Tonight's game was the first professional sporting event I have attended in America during my entire life that didn't begin with The Star-Spangled Banner. It seems like the NBA must have rules governing pre-game ceremonies that would mandate the National Anthem be played. Does anyone know? Are the Blazers subject to a fine for not doing so?
  • The weakest lineup by far tonight was Blake, Webster, Batum, Outlaw, Przybilla.  Struggled on both ends of the court, getting lit up by (and failing to adjust to) Barbosa on one end (25 points) and going possession after possession without a decent look on offense.  Pretty brutal stuff. 
  • Bayless registered a DNP - Coach's Decision and bolted from the locker room pretty quickly after the game. The highlight of his night appeared to be a halftime conversation with fellow Arizonan Channing Frye. Also, these capri pants. It's going to be an incredibly long season for Rex.
  • The Suns' were outrageously hot from distance (12 for 23... Barbosa going 5 of 7 by himself) and the Blazers simply did not adjust to the hot shooting adequately.  The defensive effort seemed to be "oh, he'll probably miss this one" rather than "I better challenge this shot because they've been hot."  If I was Nate McMillan, I'd be disappointed in that perimeter defense.
  • Given that tomorrow night's game is the second half of a back-to-back, I would expect to see mass rest for Roy, Aldridge and possibly Oden -- as well as Fernandez.
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-- Ben (benjamin.golliver@gmail.com)

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Thanks Ben

By far the bright spot of this pre-season has been Greg’s performance. For those who say his best has not come against “real” centers, I say (1) he was the best of a terrible team performance against the Clippers/Kaman and (2) practically speaking who cares? There aren’t that many “true” centers left in the NBA. A lot of teams run out PF/finesse type guys at the position, and Greg eating those guys alive will lead to a lot of wins. Plus, I think his growth is real, we will see great performances against the other legit big men in the league, but you play the opponent you have in front of you – and a lot of times they will have no chance to physically stop GO.

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by blazeraddict on Oct 15, 2009 1:10 AM PDT reply actions  

Be interesting to see how he goes against Memo

As Ben said he may get some rest though.

Nene will be the real test…..he’s a physical defender who we will see alot this year so will be interested to see how it goes.

Howard, Shaq, Chandler are all in the East.

Not many good defensive centers in the West….

by MadBlaze on Oct 15, 2009 2:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oden for All-Star

get your Ballots ready!!!

He's doing little shimmies. Jump hooks with the left hand, jump hooks with the right hand. - Brandon Roy on Greg Oden

by ECFIVESTER on Oct 15, 2009 7:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I learned a lot from this article.

It’s much appreciated by all of us, Ben.

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by AK1984 on Oct 15, 2009 2:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

2nd that. It was a good analysis.

It appears to me you’re getting pretty good at “seeing the court” Ben.

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by TwoDeep on Oct 15, 2009 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

nice coverage

i was wondering what was going on when andre miller’s pts bumped up in the 4th quarter and it seemed like no one else (i was just watching a boxscore, while reading something else) was touching the ball. and why after oden was 8-10 he never seemed to get the ball again.

also, 2nd unit scoring… i guess we’ll have to see.

this really seems like the longest preseason ever.

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by ignacio on Oct 15, 2009 1:33 AM PDT reply actions  

I'm hoping a healthy Rudy

will be the focal point for the second unit on offense. It sounds like his back flared up tonight, and with Travis off his game/Martell in the starting rotation, that leaves the bench very thin. I hope Bayless keeps working hard, I actually think he and Rudy could be an effective tandem in spurts this season – still a card carrying member of Team Bayless, he will help us at some point. As much static as Travis gets, he’s the best bet we have on the second unit as far as getting his own shot (another reason I like Bayless more than Blake).

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by blazeraddict on Oct 15, 2009 1:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think there is a doubt who the better pg between Blake and Miller is....

But watching Roy and Miller play together for significant minutes definitely made me concerned. They seem to get into each others way a lot. I really believe that Roy needs a deep threat alongside him in the backcourt. I hope and believe that Roy and Miller will find some chemistry, but to my eye, it isn’t really happening yet.

There were several times when Roy made a move to the hope, and found Miller for open threes on the kickout. The problem is that Miller can’t hit them, and usually won’t even try. He did go 1-2, but I doubt he can maintain a percntage anywhere near that throughout the season. I can see exactly what Roy was talking about when he mentioned how they were working out the kinks on floor spacing issues.

I am now firmly in the camp that believes Blake should start. He is a much better fit next to Roy, and the 2nd unit NEEDS a playmaker. The bench looked terrible with Blake running the show. I really believe that all of Blakes minutes should come when Roy is in the game. Roy hides a lot of Steve’s deficiencies on offense, and Blake helps Roy with his ability to throw daggers from deep.

I am not going to be seriously concerned about the Roy/Miller backcourt until they have more time to work things out, but it is now on my radar. I hope they figure it out, and I believe they will. I just wonder how long it might take.

Also, I think you took it easy on Outlaw, Ben. Saying he looked awful doesn’t even begin to describe his game tonight. It happens though, hopefully he bounces back…

by Rudiculous on Oct 15, 2009 1:50 AM PDT reply actions  

We need to see Roy and Miller when Roy actually cares about the game

If it fails in the regular season, then we can start talking about it. Or if Miller ever figures out that he’ll help the team much, much more by scoring off the bench, then I’d be happy.

I don’t think there’s any question that the Blazers would be a better team with Miller not starting. However, that’s only the case if Miller isn’t crying about it. He would cry because for him starting is a major issue. I like the way he plays, but I do not, at this point, like how he acts. He’s too insecure and looking to prove himself (STILL AT 33). Either way, he’ll be good as a starter, but he’d be better off the bench like you say.

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by hobobob on Oct 15, 2009 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think you took it easy on Outlaw, Ben. Saying he looked awful doesn’t even begin to describe his game tonight.

Agreed, Travis’ offensive penetrations were cringe-worthy. More Batum, please. Better yet, KP needs to “set the Outlaw-bird free” to a non-contending team, so I don’t have to keep talking about him

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by two4larue on Oct 15, 2009 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Watching the game

I’m disappointed with the flow of our offense. I love how our team has been incorporating Greg offensively…and tonight how we pushed the pace a bit when compared to the Sac home game last week, however…I’m really disappointed that by now, there still hasn’t been much cohesion (especially with the White Unit). I’m not seeing the same things that I’ve loved about this team over the past few years. I’m not seeing constant ball movement…or unselfish players making the extra pass or tipping rebounds to teammates.

I’m not sure why this is as I’m not sure what is being coached, but if I were to guess….everyone except for LMA and Brandon has something to prove. There are guys who want starting spots, who want to prove the media wrong, who want to make the team, etc and I’m starting to notice everyone is being a tad more selfish than in years past.

I’ve never seen Blake play the way he did tonight….he didn’t seem his calm and cool self, rather he seemed to try to fill a role that he is not accustomed to. It just wasn’t his game. I would guess seeing Andre performing offensively as well as he has, Blake has started to feel the need to press the same way Frye, Sergio, and Jack have in years past.

I know its a tough job as a coach, but I really hope the 2nd unit gets its act together. I have loved our White unit in years past, and the thought of Andre, or Blake leading the bench now with either Martell or Batum in the group had me salivating all summer. I’d say that has been the most disappointing factor for myself during the last 2 home games.

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by Philthyanimal on Oct 15, 2009 2:14 AM PDT reply actions  

Sergio destroyed himself and Rex damaged himself trying to be Blake...

……………………………….. Now Blake is damaging himself trying to be Andre Miller.

Weird.

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by timbo on Oct 15, 2009 8:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can't believe I am saying this, but.....

I wonder if McMillan decides to go with Miller as the starter, if we wouldn’t be better off with Bayless instead of Blake off the bench as the first point guard in the game. Blake seems to struggle without playing off of Roy, whereas at least Bayless can create some offense of his own. Just pondering.

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by blazermaniac32 on Oct 15, 2009 6:33 AM PDT reply actions  

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I’m thinking Bayless might be the better option as well. Rudy isn’t a create his own shot type, but I could see him (and Martell) being the beneficiaries of drive and kick plays from Bayless. Other than Outlaw, Bayless is the only player on the bench as it stands now who can get his own shot when the offense stagnate. It won’t happen (Nate loves Blkae too much) but it does make some sense.

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by blazeraddict on Oct 15, 2009 6:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

But can Bayless really drive and kick

Mostly it seems like he’s looking for the drive and dunk. I do agree that his intensity and physicality might be more valuable in a 12-15 minutes per game role than “steady” Steve, but unless Steve has completely fallen off of a cliff I just don’t see Jerryd getting anything but a huge rack of DNPs and probably a trade by February.

by nikolokolus on Oct 15, 2009 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

When Jerryd sees Steve's line and performance so far this preseason,

and the losses to the Clips and Suns, he must feel that he can play better than Steve is playing. He might be right.

I think KP, who we all know reads Blazersedge every day, will see these comments about Steve pressing and have a word with him, and then Steve will relax and just be Steve again and he’ll go back to being his old, efficient, if limited, self.

by MiledAnimal on Oct 15, 2009 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

The problem is...

in the first pre-season home game Bayless started two fast breaks with players on the wings and both times took the ball to the hoop. He is not a pass first point guard. It just will not happen. I like his energy but will it work with Webster/Batum, Fernandez and Outlaw? I would rather have Rudy bring the ball up and distribute with Bayless as the 2 in the lineup.

Webster, Batum, Fernandez, Outlaw and Bayless enjoy the uptempo type of play and are better suited for that rather than the usual half-court offense.

by KA-Oregon on Oct 15, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

numerous score-first PGs have succeded in this league

The problems for Bayless last year were that his shot was broken and he was lost on defense. He is not a pass first PG and he shouldn’t try to be.

by jksnake99 on Oct 15, 2009 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

That could work well

Rudy is a great distributor, and I could see him doing very well as the primary ballhandler/floor general in that unit. I’m not trying to go all out bash Blake here, but I don’t like him with the second unit, or at least, not as much as I like what Bayless could do with that unit.

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by blazeraddict on Oct 15, 2009 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Icky

Miller + Blake >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Miller + Bayless

Starting Blake + Miller >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Starting Miller + Blake

by Rudiculous on Oct 15, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

So much for all that talk of defense eh?

lol

As far as Miller and Blake, we really want to put CLEARLY the best of the two on the bench because we have to babysit Roy? C’mon. If Roy is such a superstar, he’ll learn to adjust.

I listened to a quarter and a half on the radio and heard at least five mistakes by Outlaw. And those are only the ones that the broadcaster picked up on. Where are all those Outlaw defenders at?

I don’t want to read too much into preseason but losing to the Clippers is bad and losing to a barely above-average Phoenix team at home is bad. More like 50 wins at this point imo.

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by leeroyjenkins on Oct 15, 2009 6:51 AM PDT reply actions  

Juwon Howard — DNP.

That’s the most irritating thing about the night to me.

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by timbo on Oct 15, 2009 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Are we the only ones

who don’t necessarily see why Outlaw so clearly deserves those minutes instead of Howard? They are interesting players to compare—pretty much exact opposites of each other.

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by NoLook on Oct 15, 2009 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, it's preseason. Not too many players on any team are setting the world on fire right now

so it’s not fair to pick on Travis for one bad game. He typically plays much better than he showed last night.

Juwan is a smart, experienced pro, but it’s hard to imagine him elevating over Josh Smith for a game-winning shot in the closing seconds of a tight game. He won’t see much PT, barring injury to LaMarcus or Travis, simply because he has no future with the Blazers past this season. Travis needs to play more because he should improve with playing time. If the plan is to trade him, he needs enough PT to keep him sharp and looking good to other GMs.

Too bad we can’t graft Juwan’s head onto Travis’ neck.

by MiledAnimal on Oct 15, 2009 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Really? You think preseason indicates anything?

Don’t read anything whatsoever into this. You can see how individuals progress, but you won’t see the real team playing until the regular season. These games don’t matter, and the players treat them that way.

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by hobobob on Oct 15, 2009 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Last nights game was competitive...

Nate went with what will likely be a regular season rotation. Preseason doesn’t mean anything long term, but it sure is useful as indicator of where the team is at chemistry/strategy wise. They werent just going through the motions, they were trying to win. Roy might be the only exception here, he may be cruising in 3rd gear until the season starts. But that wasn’t the impression I got. He looks out of rythym, and he looks like he is trying to find the flow before the games actually matter…

by Rudiculous on Oct 15, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really wish I could actually, you know, watch a game. Then maybe I'd be able to make more accurate judgements.

 But from everything available on the net Blake just isn’t going to work in any second unit combination, Blake is not a facilitator and that is exactly what the second unit needs with it’s lack of ball handling and passing ability. Either that, or the second unit needs an improved offence to create looks.
 Hopefully with Rudy back and out of his funk there will be some more off-ball movement, this should then inspire Webster (Batum cannot be in the second squad) to move off screens more often and we’d be able to add Outlaw’s iso ability. If Blake could add the running game to this and thread the sensible passes the unit might have a chance. At the moment, it’s poorly thrown together and needs practice.

I’d still much rather see Miller play 30 minutes off the bench and play the second unit.

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by The Pirate on Oct 15, 2009 6:55 AM PDT reply actions  

I still think Miller off the bench (playing most minutes) makes the most sense.

Our bench got ROASTED by Phoenix. And the fabulous RAMBO or A WORM or whatever it was starters did NOT build a big lead.

Start Blake and Pryzzy — give Roy some room to work — and then bring in the big guns off the bench.

Blazers are 2-0 following that approach, I note.

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by timbo on Oct 15, 2009 8:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

The arguement for best players start goes out the window when you realises it produces, well, nothing.

Of course, Brandon still needs to adapt to prove he is the player we all think he is and learn to play off ball when Andre is in the game, but to inhibit him from the very start is just nonsense. Normally, I probably wouldn’t go along these lines of thinking but given the benches awful performance with Blake as their point guard and their potential with Andre as their point guard it makes sense to cave in to the super star’s preferences. Otherwise you are forcing the super star to conform only to negatively impact the rest of the team.

Although, I would let Oden start. The difference for me between the C and the PG conundrum is that Oden is definitively the starting centre on this team and will eventually have to play with Brandon and LaMarcus. Pryzy’s defensive presence is sorely needed on both squads but I don’t think Oden is far behind in that department. I also think a Blake/Batum/Pryz combo in the starting unit lacks serious fire power and would oversaturate the second unit in said fire power.

Of course, starting is not the whole picture, the different combinations that take place throughout the game are important. I’d like to see Miller play extensively with Oden and LaMarcus and see much more of Howard with Oden. Brandon still needs to get his precious “touches” but he also needs to diversify his game to take it to the next level.

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by The Pirate on Oct 15, 2009 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Outlaw was beyond terrible

Didnt he drone on this summer about how his improvement was going to get him paid an astronomic amount?

His performance tonight would get him squat from a CBA team.

Not only was his shot selection awful, his shot terrible, and his defense shoddy as ever, he just looked like he could care less about it and continually made bad, rushed decisions as the crowd got more and more riled up…..

You can trace the run the suns went on to that awful 3 small forward lineup Nate tried (for what reason I have no idea)

Nash and Barbosa were ridiculously hot tonight and most of Nash’s shots came with a hand in his face but he shot that fadeaway high arc that is just impossible to defend when he is hitting AND finding cutters on the roll……..vintage Steve Nash

Did anyone else think that the Suns look really recharged without Shaq in the lineup to weigh everythign down??? Kerr deserved to be ridiculed for that move as it really sunk a potent team and made them slow and methodical. they look loose and ready to score but they also have a pretty sorry looking 2nd unit (other than barbosa) although it lit up our outlaw, webster, batum lineup tonight…..

Miller made some great needle passes on the breaks that Blake would never have tried, Sergio would have but probbaly would have turned it over….they need to fidn a way to get Roy and Miller to play together….thats Nate’s job and what he gets paid alot of money to do……

Seeing the coliseum again after all these years was really fun..especially since they had the windows uncovered and you could see what a cool design that building was when it was first opened….from the upper seats you can watch the game and then look out and see a panoramic view of downtown and the river……..I dont think that was ever possible when they played there in the 80’s…….I think it was covered up…….but then again its been a long time….

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by WhereInTheWorldIsDontonioWingfield on Oct 15, 2009 7:22 AM PDT reply actions  

they need to fidn a way to get Roy and Miller to play together….thats Nate’s job

I agree. Miller was brought in to reduce the predictability of the offense that the Rockets exposed in the playoffs. For Andre to have a chance of meshing with Roy, LMA and Oden, the 3 of them need to play together as much as possible, earlier in the games

That was the first time that I’ve been in the MC with the black curtains opened, as well. It makes me wonder why they didn’t do it more often, back in the day.

I’m surprised no one has mentioned the play where Miller dribbled the ball off his foot, then dove to retrieve it, then fell hard on the baseline and took awhile to come back up the court. Phoenix scored on a dunk because they were playing 5-on-4, and Andre was noticeably limping. Nate called a timeout, and I was “preparing myself” for no more Miller…but there he was, moving slowly but surely back onto the court, after the timeout.

Folks, this was a preseason game. Andre is a “gamer” in every sense of the word.

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by two4larue on Oct 15, 2009 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Trust in Greg's Word

He said he wants the starting spot, he’s going out to get it.

He said he wants to be an All-Star this year, I bet he’ll go out and get that too.

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by ECFIVESTER on Oct 15, 2009 7:44 AM PDT reply actions  

Rudy's back is giving him troubles?

His back hasn’t been the same since he took that shot from Areza. I was hoping that the summer would have been ample time to rest it.

This is news I find very worrisome.

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by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Oct 15, 2009 8:15 AM PDT reply actions  

You're joking, right?
His back hasn’t been the same since he took that shot from Areza.

Other than the fact he’s played in Eurobasket all summer…

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by timbo on Oct 15, 2009 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

no, it really hasn’t. He’s been fighting back problems since the collision. They started after the blow and have been off and on since.

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by Cablinasian on Oct 15, 2009 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why would I be joking? He landed on his back when he got fouled by Areza

and his back was giving him troubles for the rest of the season. One of the things discussed when the off season started was the hope Rudy would get some time to let his back heal up.

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by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Oct 15, 2009 8:32 AM PDT reply actions  

Lighten Up Nate

I wonder if Pop’s and The Zen Master are getting so worked up over preseason play?

Nate is looking like a coach that is going to OVER COACH his way out of a job. He sounds like he wants June level of preformance in October, never a good way to win a race. GO is doing GREAT! and needs to hear that from Nate.

This is going to be my time. Time to taste the fruits and let the juices drip down my chin. I proclaim this the season of Greg!"

by NOWINE on Oct 15, 2009 8:38 AM PDT reply actions  

The song

After 9/11, many sports teams sang God Bless America instead of the National Anthem. Very rarely they will switch it up.

by martinezec on Oct 15, 2009 8:41 AM PDT reply actions  

There should be no second unit...

Nate will have a challenge in managing the second unit situation. Although Miller and Oden are clearly the superior options, you simply can’t have those two guys and LMA and Roy off the court at the same time. Two of those four guys should be on the court AT ALL TIMES.

If Nate sticks to a set rotation and regularly has the Blake/Rudy/Martell/Trout/Przy line up out there, it will get CRUSHED in epic fashion.

Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.

by KP Corleone on Oct 15, 2009 9:01 AM PDT reply actions  

Yeah
If Nate sticks to a set rotation and regularly has the Blake/Rudy/Martell/Trout/Przy line up out there, it will get CRUSHED in epic fashion.

I don’t see that line-up working at all. Maybe having no second unit is the answer.

Frankly, if Miler and Roy are the starting backcourt, I’m not sure that Blake serves any purpose other than injury insurance.

by PoliSam on Oct 15, 2009 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

The use of the total "second unit"

often gets overstated. Even last year, the full combo of Sergio, Rudy, Travis, Frye, and Greg/Joel (since they swapped starting jobs) combined for something like 3% of the total team regular season minutes, which would mean averaging roughly 90 seconds of time each game on average. When you figure in that lineup probably getting more minutes during blowouts, it was probably close to a minute of actual court time per game that they were on the court together.

The lineup looks to have some serious problems, but I can’t see us losing games on the basis of 1 minute of court time. Of course, that could increase this year, but who know?

by Royster on Oct 15, 2009 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

True...

But even a quasi-second unit would be pretty useless. The value of Blake and Przy depends on their being on the court with two good scorers/shot creators – otherwise, their floor spacing and rebounding/defense doesn’t outweigh their inability to create shots.

For instance, pairing Blake and Przy with Rudy, Trout, and LMA would be a poor line up, IMO. Trout can create some (inefficient) shots by himself, but he’s much better as a complimentary guy playing off Brandon.

Strange as it may be, I think Blake is a worse PG than Sergio without Brandon on the floor. For all his faults, Sergio was much better at creating looks for other guys.

Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.

by KP Corleone on Oct 15, 2009 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

well, between Miller, Roy, and Oden

I think you could put any of them out there and they’d have a decent impact. It’s looking like dumping it down to Oden will be able to generate some double teams and kickouts just based solely on his size. Miller and Roy can obviously create shots for others as well. It’s only really Aldridge’s game which doesn’t lend itself to creating shots for others so much.

I do agree that Blake’s status as the “best backup PG in the league” is often overstated. In the only team situations that he’s really been able to excel, he’s been able to play off guys who generally created their own shots and used a lot of possessions (Roy/LA here, AI/Melo in Denver, Z-Bo/Miles here earlier). He seems to excel in this specific situation, which allows him to never turn the ball over and keep people salivating about his A/TO ratio.

As he gets put into situations where he has to do more, the TO’s creep up as seems to be the case this preseason, and when that happens, you’re really losing his best asset. I think he can succeed as our backup, but it doesn’t seem to be a role that he’s done especially well in in the past.

by Royster on Oct 15, 2009 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Quick said, at lunchtime today

that Steve is a notorious slow-starter. His first year as a Blazer he was the #3 PG. Then he won the starting job in December. Then Jack beat him out again, 2 years ago, and Blake won the #1 job back, in November. So we shouldn’t expect #2 to look good at this point in time of any season, regardless of Miller/Roy

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by two4larue on Oct 15, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

After watching Roy throw up bricks all preseason, is anyone starting to think that “I hardly touched a basketball all summer” means “I hardly touched a basketball all summer”?

Some have said that all that means is that he didn’t play 5 on 5. While I don’t think it’s literally true that he barely touched a ball, I also don’t think he did much focused individual work on improving his game.

Roy will be ok – he’s too great a talent to play poorly – but I anticipate a drop off to around a PER of 20. Still an all star, but not in the neighborhood of Kobe like he was last year.

Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.

by KP Corleone on Oct 15, 2009 9:05 AM PDT reply actions  

could be

I’m definitely not optimistic about Roy’s fantasy basketball value this year. I’d wager that his numbers will drop noticeably.

May not matter for the season and, who knows, for Roy’s freshness in the playoffs it might be a good thing?

by PoliSam on Oct 15, 2009 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Great point

It’s all about the end game. If Roy’s number fall off and the Blazers win 52 games instead of 58, it will be more than worth it if his playoff performance improves with the extra rest. There’s enough talent around him that even if Brandon’s game falls off a cliff for the first quarter of the season, the Blazers should still be a top 5 seed.

Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.

by KP Corleone on Oct 15, 2009 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Roy may indeed start slower this season

But if he stays healthy and finishes strong, then his no-hoops summer strategy will look just fine, won’t it? I think Roy is just maturing; the NBA season is a marathon, not a sprint. It’s a tortise & the hare thang.

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by hurryup09 on Oct 15, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

random thoughts

1. memorial coliseum was cool. it would be perfect for college or minor league arena games. PSU or the Pilots should play all games there. High-schools should rotate playing their games there. I’d connect it to the Rose Garden somehow and host more NCAA tourneys…some games play at MC? I think trading a minor league arena for a minor league baseball stadium would be kinda silly. Better to have Beaverton nix the idea (again) and move the stadium to the waterfront across the street from the RG. Actually, any baseball stadium should be MLB only. I digress.

2. I agree, there should be no second unit. Just subs. Has Nate ever stated he plans on having 2 units for games?? Last year he also tried to keep LMA or Roy in the game at all times. I see the same rotations. He’ll use Blake OR Miller depending on the matchups and game. I don’t see the issue except as an exercise to pick “who starts”. It should be irrelevant.. Oden is a starter though…it should be everybody’s first look on offense. LMA, our 3, our 2…all can play off of what happens when Oden is the first look.

by mowensmd on Oct 15, 2009 9:19 AM PDT reply actions  

I'm not confident in Nate's ability to run purely subs.

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by The Pirate on Oct 15, 2009 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks for writing this Ben

Saves me from doing a recap of my own. :) But I’d like to add a few more thoughts. Pretty much had most of the same observation. One issue I saw in the game was Greg getting blocked on his power moves. There were a three times this happened, but it may have been due to refs. (Which I think, as Nash draws two charges and Przy couldn’t on multiple attempts.) The way Greg was playing, it seemed to me he felt as though if he sealed off his man, he would get the ball. As the game went on, there was less off the ball screens coming from him.

For the Webby attempted posterization, I hope someone has a picture of that from the side, it was simply crazy.

Right before the game and once during the first quarter Roy ran into the locker room (he was nice enough to high five the fans on his way there), which is something I hadn’t heard anything about.

Rudy also went to the locker room mid game, but it looked like he was in a big hurry to get back there. During the warm ups his stroke was way off.

Not sure if it was mentioned, but even though Travis had one of those head scratching nights, he did have one a crazy Jordan-esque up, around to the side and under layup and one. I wish I could see that again.

The coliseum experience is definitely different, in a good way. Every seat (save for the end zones) have a great view. There’s no jumbo tron or hustle board, and no piped in chants. All the chants you heard on the radio were started by fans in different sections. It was great being there and hearing the chants spread like wildfire.

For all of the mentioning of turning back the clock and mentioning how the each quarter would represent a decade, it wasn’t well executed. Each quarter added something, such as blazer dancers, then the stunt team, then the Blaze the fail cat. I like that part, but then they mentioned music from each era. During the fourth quarter there wasn’t any music from this decade.

One of the coolest things about the event last night was waiting in line to get in. The Chalupa King and I were in one of the slowest moving lines and we couldn’t figure out why. We saw people running from there line to cut in front of our line and we were upset, until we saw why. Jerome Kersey was there meeting and greeting and posing for pictures. We got our pictures taken with him, then went through the gates. As we were walking out through to our seats, we see Terry Porter greeting people as well. We cursed our luck cause we know we wouldn’t be able to get back if we got a pic with him as well. But that was a nice little extra.

Not sure if anyone mentioned the halftime show. It was horse, but played rip city and was in teams made up of a mix of former blazers and local celebs. No one was hitting any shots until Porter got his shot. Porter by himself got the other team four letters. He still has his stroke, drilled three pointers and deep twos with no issues. He was 4-4, until on his last shot he was shooting three feet behind the three, and double teamed by Michael Holton (who at the end started drilling shots) and someone else, which still hit iron. Meanwhile, while this was nearing the end, Bayless was sneaking in some extra shots on other side of the court.

Dumbest comment from Phoenix fans next to me: “Why are we playing here today, the Rose Garden is so much bigger.”

That’s all I got for now!

by SabasforThree on Oct 15, 2009 10:11 AM PDT reply actions  

double teamed by Michael Holton (who at the end started drilling shots) and someone else

Darnell Valentine…who was laying bricks just like in his playing days

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by two4larue on Oct 15, 2009 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nice job, Ben

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by hurryup09 on Oct 15, 2009 11:53 AM PDT reply actions  

Seems like half the people I know are fighting a nasty bug

Anybody know — are any of the Blazers sick with that viral thing that’s going around?

by Corvid on Oct 15, 2009 12:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Thanks Ben,

My #1 reason Blake remains the starting pg looks to be playing out.
Miller and Roy play 2 different styles. Roy plays at his pace. PERIOD. Just because a player ( Miller ) has better " stats" doesn’t mean the chemistry will be right automatically. Roy is used to Blake.
Imo, we are not seeing what we expect from Roy because of the adjustment. It will take some time, IF Miller ever does become the starting pg.
Oden has made his case to start with me. Bring on the Jazz.

Go Blazers !!!!

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by FrenchieFan on Oct 15, 2009 12:30 PM PDT reply actions  

I think there's another factor in play...

Namely, that Roy is rusty after not playing hoops over the summer. Roy isn’t currently playing any better with Blake than with Miller. Or at least not so that I’ve noticed.

But regardless, we Blazer fans need to have a little patience. This is still preseason. And even after the real games begin, if the team gets off to a slow start, that’s no biggie. The top tier teams often take awhile to get up to speed; just look at the Spurs. The NBA season is a marathon, not a sprint. What really counts is how you play in the post season.

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by hurryup09 on Oct 15, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

What really counts is how you play in the post season.

This statement should be in bold capital letters in every other BE response

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by two4larue on Oct 15, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

True,

but I haven’t heard BRoy express frustration with timing and spacing with Blake.

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by FrenchieFan on Oct 15, 2009 1:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Hey all

Longtime Sonics fan here. I really want to see Martell and Brandon do well and I hope that Brandon and Andre can easily work together. That said, I’m jealous of how awesome the Blazers look on paper and on the court. It’s really weird and pretty sad to see Nate’s name as the coach of the Blazers and also to see Roy and Webster doing well for you guys. All I can say is that we really miss basketball up here and that it’ll be interesting to see how the Blazers do this year.

(I hate to love the NBA.) Damn you, Stern.

If you guys are at all interested, please head over to http://sonicsgate.org/ to watch a documentary about how Seattle lost the Sonics. If you’re a true fan, you’ll appreciate it. It’s a great film with lots of important insight.

by UWSonics on Oct 15, 2009 4:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Tut tut.

"Aneurysm".

When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie

by annthefan on Oct 15, 2009 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol @ bayless pants

Um no, I don't really like Jerryd Bayless. I really like Jesse McCartney. Got mixed up when I was making my username. Agh.

by ireallylikejerrydbayless on Oct 15, 2009 6:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Amar'e was amazing on the DEFENSIVE end tonight and had three blocks..

    He was altering tons of shots and blocked Oden several times. The people that say he can’t play defense don’t know what the hell they are talking bout cause he was the best defender in the game, he has the potential to be one of the best defensive power forwards in the league and would do incredible on a defensive team where all his skills could be used.
    Also, Andre miller was the worst blazer defender in the whole game. He was so incredibly slow that every time he got past half court everyone on defese was already set, and on fastbreaks he aws terrible at leading the pack and missed many opportunities. Steve Nash was yanking him around and had an easy 23 points and 15 assists. Even when Steve Blake came in there was an attomatic shift in speed and the blazers were better defensively.
     Every single person around me was shouting to put Oden in the moment he came out and the blazers suffered tremendously when he was out of the game. He was incredible and i was in awe about ten rows back. He aws rebounding eveything and was incredibly efficient on offense. No joke: If he actually got the shots and time he needs he would be a 30 and 15 guy every night. With andre in he missed a LOT of open passes to Oden or when Oden could of taken frye one-on-one. Oden is going to be incredible this year and the blazers need to make the best out of his scoring ability. Oden should be getting 20+ shots a game because he shoots atleast 60% from field and pretty well from the line.
   And Webster had an amazing dunk attempt on Amare that could of been an amazing poster if it would of fallen. Webster was great and looked very athletic.

by philthebballplayer on Oct 16, 2009 11:02 AM PDT reply actions  

People need to realize..

You almost never put your top 5 in the starting rotation.. It’s even more important for this team to split them a bit. Anyone that cannot see how much better the team is with Miller running the bench squad is blind, stupid, or both. No offense to someone who’s actually blind. Brandon, Lamarcus, and Greg, will be fine without Miller starting. (he will still get plenty of minutes) and the bench will be way better with him.

1. Blake, Roy, Batum, LA, & GO (great balance & chemistry)
2. Miller, Rudy, Webster then come in and play with LA & GO for a couple minutes
    (Great scoring and fast-breaking unit that plays a zone defense.)
3. Then bring Travis and Joel in with Miller, Rudy & Webster for a few more minutes.
4. Then bring Roy in for Webster or Miller (Brandon & Rudy get their time together)
5. Then bring Batum in for Rudy for a quick stint.
6. Then finish the last 3 or 4 minutes of the half with Miller, Bayless, Roy, LA &GO

2nd half is pretty much the same as first (but fininsh the 4th with Miller, Brandon, (the SF having the best night or match up), LA and GO….Except for the games that they have a big lead in at the end, (there should be many) Then Bayless, Cunningham, Travis, and Howard get some mop up time with Joel.
We need to take advantage of our depth, and our ability to have balanced starting and bench units.

by Rick_D on Oct 16, 2009 4:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Even though we lost

It was still a great game. First time I’ve been to the Glass Palace in a while.

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by ConnorOSU on Oct 17, 2009 10:48 AM PDT reply actions  

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