Preseason Gameday Open Thread -- Suns (2nd half)
by Ben Golliver on Oct 14, 2009 8:30 PM PDT
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nada.
oden doin work tonight.
Notes to Broyposse: "Don't let him pull that move, Don't let him pull that move! That's the move! Ohhhhhhh that's the move!"
Brandon Roy
You’ve got to make your freethrows!!!
Oden is 8/9
I’ll take that.
Disclaimer: everything I know about basketball I learned on Blazersedge.
i dont believe what i just saw
OH WAIT! WE CAN"T!!
We can't believe?
Why not?
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worse than travis
-Ben.
by rockingharder on Oct 14, 2009 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions
YGTMYFTS
"And in the end
The love you take
Is equal to the love you make." -The Beatles
by 92wastheyear on Oct 14, 2009 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Lunch time here in Hong Kong. Gimme a smoke’n Blazers second half to chew on.
Anyone able to find an iPhone friendly link btw? It hates Flash so justintv is out.
"Is it always like this?" Collins said after the scrimmage. "It was like the first game of the NBA playoffs or something."
by Y5k on Oct 14, 2009 8:35 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Hopefully this works
"We didn't start the fire. It was always burning. Since the world's been turning." - E. E. Cummings
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Oct 14, 2009 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks SexyRexy!
I think it will work.
Remind me to buy you a Cambodian pizza someday.
"Is it always like this?" Collins said after the scrimmage. "It was like the first game of the NBA playoffs or something."
by Y5k on Oct 14, 2009 10:00 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Happy Pizzas
"We didn't start the fire. It was always burning. Since the world's been turning." - E. E. Cummings
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Oct 15, 2009 1:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Let me know if worked for you
"We didn't start the fire. It was always burning. Since the world's been turning." - E. E. Cummings
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Oct 15, 2009 1:17 AM PDT up reply actions
You've GOT to...
(Oden shooting 80% this pre-season, hits 1-2)
Yes
"And in the end
The love you take
Is equal to the love you make." -The Beatles
by 92wastheyear on Oct 14, 2009 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions
rip city baby
bayless leaves over my dead body
andre miller>hedo, blake
real.baller
R.A.M.B.O (do it nate, if you are smart)
"I could have killed 'em all, I could kill you. In town you're the law, out here it's me. Don't push it. Don't push it or I'll give you a war you won't believe. Let it (last years starting line-up) go. Let it go."
can i get a boxscore link por favor?
I've tried for quite some time to come up with an epic signature. I now realize that I don't post frequently enough for it to really matter.
http://www.nba.com/games/20091014/PHXPOR/boxscore.html
Disclaimer: everything I know about basketball I learned on Blazersedge.
Players are huffin and puffin..." -
Hey, they are just like us…
"Climibing the golden ladder for that rebound was.... Aldridge!" - Schonz...
GREAT at saying words until you remember the one you’re looking for!
"Aldridge's first free throw attempt was... awful" - Schonz..
Love the honesty!
Wheels would have said, "Aaand Aldridge's shot is juuust off-line."
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worse than travis
-Ben.
by rockingharder on Oct 14, 2009 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Barbosa pulls a Jack
nearly got hit with a t shirt cannon t shirt while typing
worse than travis
-Ben.
the Blazers have not played well this preseason at all
not a huge concern as its preseason, but somewhat of a concern.
free throws were pretty bad last preaseason too
bayless leaves over my dead body
andre miller>hedo, blake
real.baller
R.A.M.B.O (do it nate, if you are smart)
"I could have killed 'em all, I could kill you. In town you're the law, out here it's me. Don't push it. Don't push it or I'll give you a war you won't believe. Let it (last years starting line-up) go. Let it go."
by thomasikehara on Oct 14, 2009 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah
with nobody playing
bayless leaves over my dead body
andre miller>hedo, blake
real.baller
R.A.M.B.O (do it nate, if you are smart)
"I could have killed 'em all, I could kill you. In town you're the law, out here it's me. Don't push it. Don't push it or I'll give you a war you won't believe. Let it (last years starting line-up) go. Let it go."
by thomasikehara on Oct 14, 2009 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions
But it's preseason
we’re playing our starters for like 30 minutes. How can you expect them to be in midseason form?
Not really, but you can say they need to sharpen up quick.
The turnovers are ridiculous, even for a preseason game.
Yes! Yes! In the face!
Did you watch last preseason?
Turnovers are the name of the game.
So you're saying 20 turnovers a game is common in preseason???
That’s what they’re on pace for right now. I don’t care if that’s a pickup game in August, that’s a lot.
Yes! Yes! In the face!
yeah
they seem completely out of sync on both ends. they’ve won on sheer talent against the Kings, and kept it close against the Clippers for the same reason, but definately playing more like a group of individuals more so than a cohesive team thus far
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
Honestly...preseason and the first 10 regular season games mean nothing in the NBA
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
the first 10 regular season games count just as much as the late season for playoff positioning
I certainly agree that preseason records mean zilch.
Records may count...but in the long run, not indicative of the team.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
Absolutley right
It’s the 13 games in January that mean jack..
Gotta find their rhythm though
if you watch Rambo in reverse, Sly is healing everyone with his magical, bullet-sucking vacuum
by Tyler Durrden on Oct 14, 2009 8:44 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Use the pre season to learn
and try to win
learnin’ is most importtant
Elizabeth had a partner and he had a rap from the cops, Him and Lenny Suckerpunch were just out Tooling around
by Lizzy Lowblow on Oct 14, 2009 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
for the first time this pre season
trout is playing small forward
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by staceyaugmon4HOF on Oct 14, 2009 8:41 PM PDT reply actions
nope
he played against the clips with batum out
Come on you gotta listen unto me,
lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be. ~Johnny Cash
by HurraKane212 on Oct 14, 2009 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
mike rice lied to me
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by staceyaugmon4HOF on Oct 14, 2009 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Schonz is right though...Turnoversand Free Throws...
My Dad didn’t know anything about hoops, really, less than most of us 13 year olds, but we needed a coach. He stressed one thing: make your free throws…
We went 13-0, and my Dad retired undefeated…
And play perimeter defense
if you watch Rambo in reverse, Sly is healing everyone with his magical, bullet-sucking vacuum
by Tyler Durrden on Oct 14, 2009 8:47 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
No go-to guy
Unless you count Outlaw. Basically three SFs.
"They're pickin em up and layin em down"...
Unfortuntaely, he’s not talking about Blazers…
I wonder if Rice is taking defense into account in saying Webster deserves to start
I’m guessing no.
standing o for schonz
cash rules everything around me CREAM get tha money dolla dolla bill yaaaaallll
by staceyaugmon4HOF on Oct 14, 2009 8:46 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Well done, Schonz!
Come back again soon!
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worse than travis
-Ben.
good night schonz
thanks for the memories
Elizabeth had a partner and he had a rap from the cops, Him and Lenny Suckerpunch were just out Tooling around
by Lizzy Lowblow on Oct 14, 2009 8:47 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Nice job Schonz!!
Sorry the Blazers didn’t give you much to work with!
by 6manoffense on Oct 14, 2009 8:47 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
It'd be embarrassing to lose this "historic" game.
Nice work, Shonz!!!
by MojoMan on Oct 14, 2009 8:47 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Bye Schonz
Thanks for the memories……
The young know the rules.
The old know the exceptions.
by blazerfrog on Oct 14, 2009 8:47 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Don't you blame the Blazers for that?
Wondering what moves Pritchard would make to land me a date in the off-season. Preferably one with tickets.
Great job Schonz!
I noticed that I like Mike Rice more the less time he has to speak.
Small doses Mike, small doses.
Wondering what moves Pritchard would make to land me a date in the off-season. Preferably one with tickets.
thats what theyre gonna half to do
to beat people this year
cash rules everything around me CREAM get tha money dolla dolla bill yaaaaallll
by staceyaugmon4HOF on Oct 14, 2009 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions
yes
Elizabeth had a partner and he had a rap from the cops, Him and Lenny Suckerpunch were just out Tooling around
by Lizzy Lowblow on Oct 14, 2009 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions
SWEET!
Wondering what moves Pritchard would make to land me a date in the off-season. Preferably one with tickets.
WHEELS GIVES THE 4TH TO SCHONZ!!!!!
nearly got hit with a t shirt cannon t shirt while typing
worse than travis
-Ben.
Take it home Schonz!
Wondering what moves Pritchard would make to land me a date in the off-season. Preferably one with tickets.
I don't we have 2 separate units
with Miller and Oden as starters
schonz n wheels
Elizabeth had a partner and he had a rap from the cops, Him and Lenny Suckerpunch were just out Tooling around
by Lizzy Lowblow on Oct 14, 2009 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Wheels=class
Dictated, not read. The management.
by Samsara on Oct 14, 2009 8:49 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
haha, I called it!
(called it) Thanks Wheels!
CatMan2>> there you go!
Wondering what moves Pritchard would make to land me a date in the off-season. Preferably one with tickets.
the right thing to do
glad to hear he can finish the game
brian wheeler is the man
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by staceyaugmon4HOF on Oct 14, 2009 8:50 PM PDT reply actions
Rice: "Does Martell look like a starter to you Schonz?" "Yes he does"
Good enough for me…
So the most important thing this offseason was how Oden would play.
And he’s statistically our best player so far. So we’re blowing every team out, right? Wait, hmm.
Disclaimer: everything I know about basketball I learned on Blazersedge.
16 turnovers, andre miller back in
cash rules everything around me CREAM get tha money dolla dolla bill yaaaaallll
by staceyaugmon4HOF on Oct 14, 2009 8:52 PM PDT reply actions
Sloppy
if you watch Rambo in reverse, Sly is healing everyone with his magical, bullet-sucking vacuum
by Tyler Durrden on Oct 14, 2009 8:52 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
They let Schonz finish the game
should have let him finish his career. Tragedy.
by goblazer1 on Oct 14, 2009 8:52 PM PDT reply actions 4 recs
I actually got pretty emotional when I heard him
I can’t believe we have been robbed of all these years of listening to him
If this game meant anything
the lineups would be different, more steady, and the result would be more than likely different. I’m fine with Nate trying different things right now. Andre and Steve are in the same lineup right now! that will never happen during the season. I just don’t think much other than individual play can be judged at this point
He has a point.
Same old problems, same old results.
The Natural = SELFISH
The Golden Boy = SELFISH
Mr. Sonic = SELFISH
The Texan = SELFISH
Android = SELFISH
These refs suck!
if you watch Rambo in reverse, Sly is healing everyone with his magical, bullet-sucking vacuum
by Tyler Durrden on Oct 14, 2009 8:53 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
ALL refs suck
nearly got hit with a t shirt cannon t shirt while typing
worse than travis
-Ben.
by rockingharder on Oct 14, 2009 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
thanks you, wheels
classy. so happy to have shonz for another qtr!
"And everybody in the building KNEW that was a travelling call..."
“I don’t want to know their names”
“I don’t care either”…
I won’t quote them cuz… the NBA…
The Schonz
Schonz sounds as smooth as a B.Roy Jumper, Silky.
"blazers better get their act together a little bit"
schonz
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by staceyaugmon4HOF on Oct 14, 2009 8:53 PM PDT reply actions
during regular season Nate may want to keep
at least one of Roy, Oden or Aldridge in.
you cant blame it on pryz
hes not the one committing all the turnovers
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by staceyaugmon4HOF on Oct 14, 2009 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions
second that
thanks wheeler, keeping it classy
this is getting ugly
10 point phoenix lead
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by staceyaugmon4HOF on Oct 14, 2009 8:54 PM PDT reply actions
How about his signature
“Thanks for listening wherever you may be,” which I noticed Colin Cowherd kind of ripped off
Roy with most minutes on the team
least points of the starters
hes been troubling all pre season
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by staceyaugmon4HOF on Oct 14, 2009 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn't have known if you hadn't said so.
His name has not been said much tonight.
What I appreciate most about Schonz...
If Wheels was in during this stretch I’d be just about ready to tune out.
He'd be railing against the refs in a tirade right now.
While not criticizing the Blazers of course.
Yes! Yes! In the face!
Nate should stop experimenting
And make the team play good
if you watch Rambo in reverse, Sly is healing everyone with his magical, bullet-sucking vacuum
by Tyler Durrden on Oct 14, 2009 8:56 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
He'll do that
when the games count
maybe
Disclaimer: everything I know about basketball I learned on Blazersedge.
callin out travis
cash rules everything around me CREAM get tha money dolla dolla bill yaaaaallll
by staceyaugmon4HOF on Oct 14, 2009 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Stats
Blazers 10/19 free throws
Suns 10/19 3 pointers
The young know the rules.
The old know the exceptions.
Too bad free throws aren't worth 3 points; we'd be tied
Disclaimer: everything I know about basketball I learned on Blazersedge.
funny
how shonz sounds exactly the same as the old school broadcasts. and probably because of the crappy internet screen, he sounds the same as my 1977 championship LP.
Blazers turning the ball over pretty much feeds the Suns offense
Preseason. McMillan is pretty much guaranteeing a sloppy beginning to the season due to his indecision regarding rotations.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
FEED ODEN
Blazers HAVE to take some high-percentage shots. None of this “Andre Miller reverse layup” stuff.
nearly got hit with a t shirt cannon t shirt while typing
worse than travis
-Ben.
Right on cue, huh?
nearly got hit with a t shirt cannon t shirt while typing
worse than travis
-Ben.
by rockingharder on Oct 14, 2009 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions
"Varsity coming back in"...
“Shows you what Nate thinks of the bench tonite” – Ricey
Schonz does call it slower than Wheels
and seems to miss some details but still love hearing his voice again
out of practice
and 80 years old
"And in the end
The love you take
Is equal to the love you make." -The Beatles
by 92wastheyear on Oct 14, 2009 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Miller is really good.
In case anyone was wondering.
by Nick Van Excellent on Oct 14, 2009 9:01 PM PDT reply actions
Miller has the best pump fake in the league.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
Best lob thrower in the league.
Most durable point guard in the league.
by Nick Van Excellent on Oct 14, 2009 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Miller! "Little dance step, it went in".. - Schonz
“IQ Basketball for Andre Miller” – Rice
Are all the box scores frozen?
Disclaimer: everything I know about basketball I learned on Blazersedge.
Even Ricey taking part in the whole
“They’d be an all-star if they played against the Blazers every night” thing
Love.
Can we trade Blake and Outlaw for Barbosa?
by Anonymous Gambler on Oct 14, 2009 9:02 PM PDT reply actions
The problem with that is that he wouldn't be able to play against the Blazers.
nearly got hit with a t shirt cannon t shirt while typing
worse than travis
-Ben.
by rockingharder on Oct 14, 2009 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions
ugh
That’s the kind of injury that just lingers on and on…
nearly got hit with a t shirt cannon t shirt while typing
worse than travis
-Ben.
by rockingharder on Oct 14, 2009 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Sounds like he needs some rest.
Didn’t he have a sore back about midway through the season last season?
"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."
how many minutes
however many, he should have more
hahah love that shonz and rice are still on the air
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
Good – Martell.
Bad – Blake.
Ugly – Roy.
nearly got hit with a t shirt cannon t shirt while typing
worse than travis
-Ben.
by rockingharder on Oct 14, 2009 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Who says big men aren't marketable?
nearly got hit with a t shirt cannon t shirt while typing
worse than travis
-Ben.
by rockingharder on Oct 14, 2009 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions
My take..
Good: Oden, Miller. (Schonz)
Bad: Roy
Ugly: Radio only broadcast
Good: Phoenix
Bad: Portland
Ugly: the game
Disclaimer: everything I know about basketball I learned on Blazersedge.
by pualo on Oct 14, 2009 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nash is killing us
Not too unusual, but it would be nice to have somebody pay some attention to him
He always does.
nearly got hit with a t shirt cannon t shirt while typing
worse than travis
-Ben.
by rockingharder on Oct 14, 2009 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions
that's because
we don’t have PGs who are defensive stoppers. love both SB + AM, but they just can’t stop anyone
good: oden
bad: 16 turnovers
ugly: lineup experimenting
cash rules everything around me CREAM get tha money dolla dolla bill yaaaaallll
by staceyaugmon4HOF on Oct 14, 2009 9:07 PM PDT reply actions
also bad and ugly
1 of 10 threes
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by staceyaugmon4HOF on Oct 14, 2009 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions
make that 17 turnovers
cash rules everything around me CREAM get tha money dolla dolla bill yaaaaallll
by staceyaugmon4HOF on Oct 14, 2009 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Is there a big on the court?
get the damn ball to oden. hes money and he knows it.
by saveourbluths on Oct 14, 2009 9:07 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
"lamar aldrich"?
bayless leaves over my dead body
andre miller>hedo, blake
real.baller
R.A.M.B.O (do it nate, if you are smart)
"I could have killed 'em all, I could kill you. In town you're the law, out here it's me. Don't push it. Don't push it or I'll give you a war you won't believe. Let it (last years starting line-up) go. Let it go."
Lamar aldridge LMAO
Rip City Baby...People have no idea what is coming.
Follow my twitter www.twitter.com/PDXBlazersFTW, @PDXBlazersFTW. Lots of random Blazer Posts from links I find around the blogosphere.
schonz just called LMA
lamar aldridge
cash rules everything around me CREAM get tha money dolla dolla bill yaaaaallll
by staceyaugmon4HOF on Oct 14, 2009 9:09 PM PDT reply actions
I don't think you can read too much into this game as I've said
but our Defense seems to be bad…but maybe the Suns are just hot tonight. Hard to say without seeing the game
im curious to see how open the threes theyve been hitting are
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by staceyaugmon4HOF on Oct 14, 2009 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Very open
Perimeter d was non existant
if you watch Rambo in reverse, Sly is healing everyone with his magical, bullet-sucking vacuum
by Tyler Durrden on Oct 14, 2009 9:13 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
not good
cash rules everything around me CREAM get tha money dolla dolla bill yaaaaallll
by staceyaugmon4HOF on Oct 14, 2009 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Is to buy these 10 packs...
Because if you don’t buy them as 10-packs, we’re not going to sell them individually, we’re going to make the rookies eat the paper tickets…
haha
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worse than travis
-Ben.
by rockingharder on Oct 14, 2009 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions
The Blazers were 4-3 in preseason last year, FWIW
Wins over Sac, Atlanta, @ Sac and @ Clips.
Losses to GSW, Utah and @ Utah.
thanks for finding that.
Rip City Baby...People have no idea what is coming.
Follow my twitter www.twitter.com/PDXBlazersFTW, @PDXBlazersFTW. Lots of random Blazer Posts from links I find around the blogosphere.
Wow people leaving already
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by Tyler Durrden on Oct 14, 2009 9:11 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Wow people leaving already
if you watch Rambo in reverse, Sly is healing everyone with his magical, bullet-sucking vacuum
by Tyler Durrden on Oct 14, 2009 9:11 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
at least they went
I am here at home, in Portland.
seems
like we’re still working on the transition defense schemes. well, lets be honest, all defensive schemes…
Rudy and Batum resting still
Combined for 17 min this game
I'll pretend it's because of the preseason, not because of injury or mancrushes.
nearly got hit with a t shirt cannon t shirt while typing
worse than travis
-Ben.
by rockingharder on Oct 14, 2009 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions
The two Euros have each played fewer than 10 minutes tonight
I’ll say it again— if these two guys get the shaft during the regular season, I will be displeased.
by jksnake99 on Oct 14, 2009 9:12 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Yup.
Hella rec.
nearly got hit with a t shirt cannon t shirt while typing
worse than travis
-Ben.
by rockingharder on Oct 14, 2009 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions
KP made it very clear that they planned to rest Batum and Rudy during the preseason
To keep them from wearing down faster during the regular season, after all their Summer activity overseas.
No reason to assume anything from their limited minutes.
No problem.
I personally asked him the question at the media event, and he was pretty clear they wanted to prevent those two from hitting the wall if possible.
If they’re playing very little minutes during the last two preseason games, as Nate cements his rotation… then it’s time to worry.
who says miller cant shoot
bayless leaves over my dead body
andre miller>hedo, blake
real.baller
R.A.M.B.O (do it nate, if you are smart)
"I could have killed 'em all, I could kill you. In town you're the law, out here it's me. Don't push it. Don't push it or I'll give you a war you won't believe. Let it (last years starting line-up) go. Let it go."
They can do whatever
As long as I can watch on tv and don’t have to hear the radio feed
He should do like in Seattle with that old guy Neehaus
Have him just call the first half most nights, or something. Something…
have roy come off the bench
he is taking touches away from andre
bayless leaves over my dead body
andre miller>hedo, blake
real.baller
R.A.M.B.O (do it nate, if you are smart)
"I could have killed 'em all, I could kill you. In town you're the law, out here it's me. Don't push it. Don't push it or I'll give you a war you won't believe. Let it (last years starting line-up) go. Let it go."
PANIC!
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
I'm with cloudy!!!!
Run for your lives!!!
if you watch Rambo in reverse, Sly is healing everyone with his magical, bullet-sucking vacuum
by Tyler Durrden on Oct 14, 2009 9:40 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
we have to remember that the suns are good
its not like theyre a completely different team than the one they had 2 or 3 years ago.
and theyre employing a similary strat to 7 seconds or less
i agree
BUT, if were gonna discount roys rough start, we should hold off on oden for the same reason. its pre season
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by staceyaugmon4HOF on Oct 14, 2009 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Roy starts out looking bad almost every year so far.
This may be the first year no one says he should be traded (sell high!) as a result.
give andre the 75mil
if roy continues this in the regular season
chill
its pre season. weve seen outlaw score 24 points in a game before too
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by staceyaugmon4HOF on Oct 14, 2009 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions
"Travis Outlaw, for the first time tonight, drives the lane"
Call it like you see it Schonz!
He drove in the first half
Schonz isn’t graded on accuracy, though
goaltending
bayless leaves over my dead body
andre miller>hedo, blake
real.baller
R.A.M.B.O (do it nate, if you are smart)
"I could have killed 'em all, I could kill you. In town you're the law, out here it's me. Don't push it. Don't push it or I'll give you a war you won't believe. Let it (last years starting line-up) go. Let it go."
I love roy, but c'mon!!!
WHERE ARE YOU???
So far, this blazer team looks just like last year. No defense. Trying to come from behind. Roy inconsistent.
It's preseason...
It doesn’t mean anything… Wait until the last 2 preseason games… It’ll all come together.
BTW
i’m so sick of seeing/hearing l*ker talk down here. it’s obnoxious.
I say the starting PG and starting C spots are no longer up for debate.
Miller should play 32-34 minutes per night, this guy’s a player.
We completely ignored Oden in the 2nd half – since I can’t see anything, I don’t know if there just wasn’t looks there or what, but he got almost no shots at all after the break.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
No joke.
He’s sooooo much better than Blake.
by Nick Van Excellent on Oct 14, 2009 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Batum as a 20 year old rookie was better than Webster as a 21 year old 3rd year man
The burden of proof is on Webster to prove he’s gotten substantially better. One game doesn’t do that for me.
I've been opening supporting RAMWO for a while...
I personally think you’re underestimating Webster. But since we can’t see the games, there’s too little info for a useful discussion.
No matter who I’d personally support, I want the best SF to start, whomever earns it in training camp and preseason.
considering how much they are resting Batum and Rudy
it seems like there is no room for a true competition during the preseason for the starting SF spot…
maybe during the reg. season Webster will continue to prove himself and something will develop
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
Yeah you're right, that's the hard part
I’m guessing they’ll have to make decisions based on limited gametime for Batum, and practice competition.
Also, Nate doesn’t give up a players’ starting role due to injury. So the SF position is presumably Webster’s if he is equal to Batum instead of vice versa. Or else Nate will have changed his stance on injuries (possible).
Really?
I’d think that because Batum started all last year, he’d be considered the incumbent.
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by rockingharder on Oct 14, 2009 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Technically he was substituting for an injured guy all year.
He was only starting due to Webster’s injury. Unless Webster had really struggled, it’s fair to assume Batum would have played limited minutes.
that's an interesting position
i would assume that despite Webster’s injury, as rockingharder said above, Batum would be considered the incumbent
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
Did Martell start the one game he played in last year?
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-Ben.
by rockingharder on Oct 14, 2009 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I think Nate likes to start a player slow on injury return
So I presume he came off the bench for the Toronto game.
Of course, he started the preseason game against SAC before his injury.
I think when the replacement plays better than the injured dude ever has before
The “you don’t lose your spot due to injury” rule goes out the window. At least it should. Especially when the replacement is younger and has vastly more potential.
Tough line to draw though
And again, just going back to Nate’s philosophy about injuries to starters.
Perhaps this will make a fun Fanpost discussion as preseason goes along. I was being pretty philosophical. But based on Nate’s history and style, it’s reasonable to assume the starting position is actually Martell’s to lose.
It's a bit too extreme for my taste
We’d feel lucky if, but some miracle, Batum reached Scottie Pippen levels. And for their respective sports, Pippen isn’t close to Gehrig. (I know, tough comparison on my part).
I know you feel strongly that Batum outshined Martell’s previous season. But I think you’re ignoring any improvements Martell may have had last year.
I have to ignore age as well for these purposes. Batum can learn the game just as easily off the bench, and could still start later.
Just to make it clear, I’m not angrily arguing or anything. Just thinking out loud on a point that we won’t agree on.
If Batum is outplaying Martell, I completely want him to start. But if Martell is playing even a little better, fits with the starters, and sits on the bench because Batum subbed for him last year due to injury, I’ll be thinking “hmmmm.”
that's fair
The only way I’ll really lose it is if Batum isn’t getting minutes at all. If Webster starts and plays well, that’s fine. At least until we see how they look in a few real games.
Yep. This all may be irrelevant 10 games into the season
Funny enough, it might change again 50 games into the season. (I could see either one hitting the wall this year).
It seems reasonable to be sceptical about any improvements that Webster may have made
considering that he was injured and unable to play basketball most of that time. How could he have improved if he wasn’t healthy enough to practice?
I understand the skepticism too
I noted it in another thread about Martell like 5 minutes ago too.
Don’t forget, Martell looked outstanding in the first game before injury last season. And he had practiced all that Summer.
I suspect we’ll see a much more mature Martell, ready to play, than any season before. That may also help him.
But I’d really like to see him play before really saying he’s ready to start or not.
Exactly my point too.
I think people are way too fast to pass judgement in general. It is just the halfway point in the pre-season, very few things could have been determined for sure yet.
"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."
Would Batum have been starting if Martell hadn't been injured?
If the answer is no, it’s far from insane. There were many comments of how well we were doing “despite losing Webster”.
Don’t get me wrong, I know you prefer Batum. But based on Nate’s policy, the position is Martell’s.
Worth noting that Nate said the starters are the same as last year at the start of preseason. Nobody believed him, of course, but it set Miller off apparently. I wonder how Nate would have responded had someone reminded him that his injured starter was returning. But that’s beyond the current reporting staff.
Honestly, I think the real point is that it’s neither player’s position by default, because they could both stake a claim. So it’s not about either player needing to look a lot better than the other. It’ll simply go to the player who slightly tilts the see-saw in their direction during preseason.
I think we can safely assume
Batum would have been in Idaho for a while if Martel didn’t get hurt. Not a bad thing, but probably would have happened.
Brandon Roy, 'nuff said.
I also think it's a reasonable assumption.
The only thing that would have prevented that is what happened with Bayless: They thought he could learn more by staying with the team.
It’s one of those reminders (along with folks like Von Wafer) that sometimes the difference between 12th man (or NBA DL) and borderline starter is sometimes just some consistent playing time and an opening on the roster.
maybe
or maybe his obvious ability would have shown through and he would have earned pt. His play last year was better than any season Webster or Outlaw has put together.
As noted above, that ignores any Martell improvements
But we can discuss that in one thread if you want to cover that. I’m ok if you want to call it good too.
That's just silly.
Webster is just as athletically gifted as Batum is. Webster may not be as good on defense, but as I recall, McMillan has a lot of faith in Webster’s defensive abilities and has said he thinks Webster can become a lock-down defender.
But since he hasn’t played in a season, I think you’ve forgotten his offensive skill-set, his defensive assignments on top opposing wing players and his over all athleticism.
Yeah Batum is good, but better than Webster and Outlaw combined? Where’s the hyperbole really coming from?
"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."
based on the statistical metrics which I prefer
namely basketball prospectus’ WARP, statistical plus-minus, and adjusted plus-minus, Batum’s season last year was the best season any of the three aforementioned players has ever had.
PER gives the edge to Outlaw
What more is there to say?
Who would start between Outlaw and Webster? Really, the question should be phrased, “Who can start between Outlaw and Webster?” because we know Outlaw can’t and never has been a starter.
Again, I think that Batum is not as talented on offense as Webster is and Webster is considered a good defender. So saying that Batum is by far and away a huge upgrade on Martell simply because of a statistic which also says Outlaw is better when any objective observer would disagree rather proves the stat can’t be relied upon.
"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."
I don't think he meant the two of them combined.
Pretty sure he meant he felt Batum was better than either of Martell or Outlaw’s best seasons so far, based on his preferred statistical analysis.
The words “put together” probably threw you off.
Well yeah.
“Put together” in my mind usually means combined.
"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."
I missed the "or" in that sentence. My mistake.
"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."
Well you did use a word which should signify a break and not an inclusion.
"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."
I think you are making something out of nothing, at least in the preseason
considering how little Batum has played, and he technically is the “incumbent” small forward, it is practically impossible to have a real “competition” between him and Webster for the starting small forward spot. I believe that Webster could potentially earn his spot back during the regular season, but how fair is it to Batum to be left with little PT to prove himself to the coaching staff and keep his job?
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
Honestly, I was just waxing philosophical about Nate's starter policy
I’m as surprised as you that the discussion has gone this far. :)
fair is it to Batum to be left with little PT to prove himself to the coaching staff and keep his job?
Well, rumor was that Batum was made well aware that he’d likely have his playing time cut back when Martell returned.
And it’s no more fair to Martell than Batum, in reality. (“Welcome back from injury, great preseason! Go sit over there.”) No matter what, someone will likely get the shaft to some extent.
well it is not his choice that KP/the coaches aren't letting Batum play too much
their philosophy this preseason is to give Nic and Rudy as much rest as possible. I’m sure if there was a real competition for it, at least in the preseason, Nic would have been given more of an opportunity to prove himself…
I wonder if Nate explained the situation to Martell and told him that he has a chance to regain his starting job once the real season starts…
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
I totally agree that it's hard to judge them fairly when one can go full-speed
and the other is being kept in 1st gear.
On the other hand, they are getting a fair amount of practice together. If, say, Martell and Batum are playing equal in practice, and Martell’s numbers outshine Batum during their on court minutes (adjusted, of course), Nate may have a tough decision on his hands.
I’m enjoying the SF battle far more than the PG battle, partially because I think the PG decision is less complicated. The little discussion here leaves me feeling like that’s not just me.
I have no problem with Marty earning his job back in the regular season
it just seems unfair to Batum to give up his starting spot without ever really giving him extended minutes to prove himself
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
It also seems unfair for Martell to lose his starting spot because his foot cracked.
If he’d successfully returned in December, this discussion would probably not be happening… he’d have returned to the starting lineup unless he was a really really good fit with the backups.
Really, it’s going to be unfair to someone no matter what. I think we’re all falling to the side of the player we’d prefer to start if all other things are equal. Just guessing there.
I don’t think I’ve noted it in this thread, but I’m actually a big Batum fan. None of this is intended as a knock on him.
how dare you accuse me of being biased
:)
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
Well, a whole year injury is a stretch for that policy.
In Martel’s favor is if we loose Steve’s outside shot, we should bring in Martel with the starting unit. I did go to fanfest and was pleasantly surprised how strong Martell was playing in his first “game” back. I am really just guessing Martel is the man, but have not problem if Nic is it. Whatever the coaches think, and of course we can mix it up. Play the hot hand. Great to have ’em both.
Way to foul Nash with 15 seconds left
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the small forward spot may be up for debate now!
by Anonymous Gambler on Oct 14, 2009 9:18 PM PDT reply actions
not much more you can say
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
Nic is playing his way out of the rotation
by southern oregon on Oct 14, 2009 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions
No he isn't.
He’s hardly playing at all. That isn’t his fault.
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-Ben.
by rockingharder on Oct 14, 2009 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Webster's D from a year and a half ago wasn't sub-par by any means.
"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."
stayed till the end, like a tru*fan
Kobe is my profile pic because of this beatdown I received.
Blake > Andre
at least he didn't get halfway through and quit
like he did with lamar aldridge
whose name does he NOT butcher
at least he’s consistent
They can pull it out
if you watch Rambo in reverse, Sly is healing everyone with his magical, bullet-sucking vacuum
by Tyler Durrden on Oct 14, 2009 9:19 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
roy aldridge miller WHEELER oden
i dont think wheels can play
so what do the ppl in the crowd get tonight?
for going over 100, chalupas or are they gonna continue the throw back theme with just tacos?
Happy birthday to the ground!
I’ve always thought Taco Bell food was pretty much throw up back.
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by timbo on Oct 14, 2009 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
fine then hypothetically
Happy birthday to the ground!
by phillyduck23 on Oct 14, 2009 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions
they should get bean buritos
I don’t know why
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by pualo on Oct 14, 2009 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec
That one actually made me laugh out loud.
nearly got hit with a t shirt cannon t shirt while typing
worse than travis
-Ben.
by rockingharder on Oct 14, 2009 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions
ships have things that you rig on the mooring lines called "rat guards"
To keep them from geting on board,Tom knows what im talking about
by southern oregon on Oct 14, 2009 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions
The pleasure was ours.
Thanks Schonz
The young know the rules.
The old know the exceptions.
by blazerfrog on Oct 14, 2009 9:21 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Not taking too much from the preseason...
But Roy and Alridge has been a big disappointment in their effort.
I like to at least see them not coast and get ready for the season. Pre-season is about limiting minutes and finding rhythm. But I think they have been taking it a bit too far with the coasting. Hope to see them turn it up in the last few games.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
he did ok
but he wasn’t very efficient and it sounds like he wasn’t doing any posting up— just shooting jumpers.
I got the impression LMA was basically just shooting open jumpshots
Not particularly active or affecting the game when he was on the floor.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
They are having Roy play off the ball. Martell and Oden's and Miller's touches are
coming from somewhere.
lol
that’s ridiculous
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
it seems unlikely that he decides not to try hard because his contract is being worked on
it seems far more likely that he is just coasting into the season along with brandon
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
I think its because nate is expirmenting with the offense
and not running the ball through them like he usually does. At least that is the case with Roy. Aldrich seemed to have an okay game?
EVERY game is ugly.
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worse than travis
-Ben.
by rockingharder on Oct 14, 2009 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Danke....
My son will be disappointed. We went to the Sac game, no chalupas. Tonight we don’t go, chalupas. :)
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by EngineerScotty on Oct 14, 2009 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Webster + Miller = 40 points...
That we didn’t have last year.
Conveniently overlooking the fact that Brandon is now a 8 ppg. guy...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
If Oden is truly a beast, that should make up for it.
nearly got hit with a t shirt cannon t shirt while typing
worse than travis
-Ben.
by rockingharder on Oct 14, 2009 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I admit it, I forgot to factor in...
…Roy’s decline as he has just turned 25…
Nah...it's because he got the max contract
He’s going to half-ass it not and will balloon up to 350lbs. Just watch!
levelhed
mad props from us out of staters. made my night, W or L.
back soon friends. red+black forever.
by Mattyb on Oct 14, 2009 9:24 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Yes, thanks levelhed!
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worse than travis
-Ben.
by rockingharder on Oct 14, 2009 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions
You're the most popular guy at the Bedge!
"Aneurysm".
When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie
Maybe so but you have to have the equipment and the radio feed.
I have neither.
"Aneurysm".
When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie
Good Night Bedgers
Fell asleep once already, woke up just in time.
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Elizabeth had a partner and he had a rap from the cops, Him and Lenny Suckerpunch were just out Tooling around
Nighty night Lizzy. Don't stay gone so long!
"Aneurysm".
When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie
ok
schonz sang me a lullabye, jeez
Elizabeth had a partner and he had a rap from the cops, Him and Lenny Suckerpunch were just out Tooling around
by Lizzy Lowblow on Oct 14, 2009 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions
honey where you been so long
Jimmy Reed
by southern oregon on Oct 14, 2009 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions
ridi 2 the pub
n drinkin ales.
wut mo can a po boy do?
Elizabeth had a partner and he had a rap from the cops, Him and Lenny Suckerpunch were just out Tooling around
by Lizzy Lowblow on Oct 14, 2009 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions
gn SO
Elizabeth had a partner and he had a rap from the cops, Him and Lenny Suckerpunch were just out Tooling around
by Lizzy Lowblow on Oct 14, 2009 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
The bright lights
The big city,it went to my baby’s head
You know I tried to tell her but she dont believe a word I said
by southern oregon on Oct 14, 2009 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I know it's just preseason.....
But it sounds like our perimeter “d” is right where we left it last year.
"I saw him in the face" Sergio's quote on the latest alley-oop to Rudy.
MP3 Q1 - Q3 Created!
Hey guys, I’ve created an .MP3 for Q1 – Q3. Bill is calling the 4th as well and I’ll post that asap!
Link is below:
http://www.blazersedge.com/2009/10/14/1085889/blazers-40th-tribute-10-14-09-bill
Even though
it was an ugly game I wish it was on TV. I got real tired of watching the digital display on my clock radio and trying to guess when the minute digit was going to change. And starting to think the number 3 was a lucky digit. Drove me crazy.
Brandon Roy, 'nuff said.
by johnv59 on Oct 14, 2009 9:34 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
US Soccer scored a late goal today to send Honduras through to the World Cup (at Costa Rica's expense)
US Soccer writer Grant Wahl tweets:
E-mail from pal in Honduras: “Right now the U.S. is king in this country. People in the streets are carrying Honduran and U.S. flags.”
Get Johnathan Bornstein (the goal scorer) a Nobel Peace Prize.
we need to quickly
think of a way to use this to our benefit in Central American politics. LOL
Brandon Roy, 'nuff said.
"America: Because we kind of like soccer now!"
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worse than travis
-Ben.
by rockingharder on Oct 14, 2009 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions
MP3 Q4 Created!
Hey guys, I’ve created an .MP3 for Q4
Link is below:
http://www.blazersedge.com/2009/10/14/1085895/blazers-40th-tribute-10-14-09-bill
If there are
I really don’t want to see them, ugh.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
It was fun to be there tonight
but you were starving for stats with no hustle board, player stat boards – drove me nuts!!!
man it feels good to have real basketball conversations again
:)
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
hahaha
I’m not a big fan of doing projections and predictions and arguing incessantly about them, especially in July or August. I’ve been bored for months.
It’s nice to actually talk basketball again.
no kidding
debates about who should start >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trade drawers
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
At this point, I'm changing my mind about Greg Oden and Andre Miller. They must start, pronto.
FIRST & THIRD QUARTERS
8 Minutes
C: Greg Oden
PF: LaMarcus Aldridge
SF: Martell Webster
SG: Brandon Roy
PG: Andre Miller
4 Minutes
C: Joel Przybilla
PF: Travis Outlaw
SF: Nicolas Batum
SG: Rudy Fernandez
PG: Steve Blake
SECOND & FOURTH QUARTERS
4 Minutes
C: Joel Przybilla
PF: Travis Outlaw
SF: Nicolas Batum
SG: Brandon Roy
PG: Steve Blake
8 Minutes
C: Greg Oden
PF: LaMarcus Aldridge
SF: Rudy Fernandez
SG: Brandon Roy
PG: Andre Miller
Although that team won’t get past the second round due to major defensive flaws, Travis Outlaw — who, along with Jerryd Bayless, must be traded for a Nick Collison type and possibly some future draft considerations — and the possibility that Brandon Roy won’t mesh with Greg Oden and Andre Miller on the court, it seems to be the best way to move forward into the regular season.
Things can still change over time, though, so nothing is set in stone.
Stupid people have stupid ideas.
Nicolas Batum and Martell Webster are interchangeable pieces.
One can start each half, while the other can play the middle minutes.
Stupid people have stupid ideas.
Okay, I roll my eyes again at the micro-managing of minutes... Now, on with the show...
1. A agree with you that A WORM is a better starting lineup than RAMBO. Nic hasn’t done jack in the pre-season, plus Roy makes two.
2. How about we start thinking about alternatives to Travis Outlaw at PF. He is not now, nor has he ever been, nor will he ever be a Power Forward. We have Juwon Howard, why are we wasting time playing Travis?
3. Roy is really slumping. That doesn’t have anything to do with your minutes allocation, but I will say it again.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Roy is slumping...
and it’s not Andre’s fault either. I think Miller only took like two shots in the first half, so there should have been plenty of opportunity for Roy to make something happen.
by Nick Van Excellent on Oct 15, 2009 12:03 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm not worried
He said he didn’t play much during the off-season, as he was more focused on recuperating/general fitness and conditioning. While I doubt he didn’t touch a ball “at all” as some reports have said (Brandon may have said this as well), he’s playing against high level competition, even though it is pre-season. If this is going on in December, then I’ll hit the panic button.
I hate Comcast.
by blazeraddict on Oct 15, 2009 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Hey, the Juwan Howard > Travis Outlaw argument!
Haven’t seen that one before.
nearly got hit with a t shirt cannon t shirt while typing
worse than travis
-Ben.
by rockingharder on Oct 15, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
I think I'd bring Blake in earlier in the 1st and 3rd quarters.
and put Andre back in earlier so he and Rudy can play together for a couple minutes on the floor. Dre and Rudy seem like they’d be a good fit together
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
On a different note, the Phoenix Suns should start Amare Stoudemire and Earl Clark as its frontline.
That’s a weak defensive unit, but they’re both more capable of playing okay defensively unlike Channing Frye.
Stupid people have stupid ideas.
I agree. Clark is a great fit as a smallball 4 in the Phoenix system.
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
by Cablinasian on Oct 14, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
that will be a fun team to watch
with Clark and Stoudemire on the front lines
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
Plus, Louis Amundson is a tough 4 who can mask Channing Frye's crap at the 5 off of the bench.
Stupid people have stupid ideas.
I felt bad for Frye the moment I heard they had him starting at Center opposite Oden.
All the missed shots didn’t help his situation in that game either. How many three attempts did he have anyway?
"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."
I think shooting 3s is the right way to use Channing
Shooting is what he does best (this game notwithstanding) and 3s are way more efficient than long 2s. I’m with AK and Cab that Clark is the better fit in the starting lineup though.
I don't think Frye can be a starter
as a Center or Power Forward unless he starts to really get aggressive in the post, which he just doesn’t seem inclined to do.
Pulling Centers away from the post to defend him is one thing, but unless he can reliably hit his shots, its not going to do anything to help the spacing inside for the Suns.
"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."
The biggest concern to me is the turn overs, and because we can't see the games
it is very hard to determine exactly why they’re having such a hard time with them.
Anyone have any plausible explanations for this problem and any ideas as to whether or not it is something that will be solved in the last four games of the preseason?
"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."
Travis accounted for most of them. I was there, dude was horrible.
A few were stripped balls that might have been called fouls by real refs
I think real refs would be less likely to call fouls on that kind of thing.
The replacement refs have been pretty whistle happy so far.
Travis and Blake each had 3 and a bunch with 2 each
"Either way we have two phenomenal units. I'm excited to play with either one." - Martell Webster
Has it just been a matter of not paying attention?
"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."
its worth remembering, whatever you think of Travis,
that he’s a notoriously slow starter that gets better later in the season.
That said, I wouldn’t be giving him too many minutes this year.
maybe you had to be there.
it was just obvious that he was tanking the game. everything he did was terrible, both sides of the ball.
But... but... he's trying to get paid like out of this world!
nearly got hit with a t shirt cannon t shirt while typing
worse than travis
-Ben.
by rockingharder on Oct 15, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, that's his usual way
But didn’t he spend the summer actually working on his game unlike other summers? He’s made statements about being ready and this being a contract year for him. I would think that he’d try to show up mentally in that situation.
"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."
I could see it if there were a lot of new plays being called...
and people were out of position when the ball was passed to them. That’s probably natural in the first few games of the preseason, but I would think that as the rotation tightens up – as it was supposed to tonight – that the number of turnovers and type of turnovers would have been reduced pretty drastically.
"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."
no, he had some intentionall take-over moments, and looked good doing it.
It’s different with Miller, because unlike Blake, Miller can make his own shot, and is more creative, so Roy can’t assume that the PG is always looking for him.
Visit the JD too
Prez and a few others who returned from the game are having postgame conversations over there.
mostly just jumpers
but Oden is a different man on the boards. Just a freak down there. Especially on offensive boards.
yeah, it seems like he'll be able to keep or improve upon his per minute rebounding numbers
If he can stay on the court, he’s got a shot to be right up there with the rebounding leaders.
Yeah, and his put backs looked slick
There was very little of the awkward post up garbage from last year. He’ll get a ton of put back points.
There were some really strange line ups tonight...
For example:
Blake
Batum
Webster
Outlaw
Przybilla
I hope I never see that one again!
That one has me gagging and I like most of the guys on that list individually...
Assuming you start your best five, it’s A WORM.
And I’m going to be the first one in the neighborhood to state the obvious: Bye bye Travis, Juwon plays 12 minutes behind LMA at PF because he is a PF and Travis is not…
Which gives you a bench of:
Blake, Rudy, Nic, Juwon, Pryzzy.
Hmmmm. Not as much pop as one would like.
Where is that guy we saw in Eurobasket, Mr. Batum???
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Travis looked completely out of it tonight.
Where is the dude that is looking to “Get paid, like out of this world”?
Travis and Bayless for DJB and salary filler?
Also, I think Nate is resting Nic because of the Eurobasket experience. If Nic still looks lost ten games into the season, then it’s time to worry about him.
nearly got hit with a t shirt cannon t shirt while typing
worse than travis
-Ben.
by rockingharder on Oct 15, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
The wierdest was when they had Miller and Blake both out there.
"They drew first blood, not me." -RAMBO
Oden, you are the man!
If that was our starting line up...
instead of having RAMBO we would have a PWOBBlem.
by rpresto2 on Oct 15, 2009 12:27 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Very good!
"Aneurysm".
When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie
Observations from near courtside last night:
- Some of our guys have a ways to go, conditioning wise.
- Some odd situational lineups: Miller, Blake, Roy, LA, Oden?
- Rudy’s back spasms probably instigated said tinkering above.
- Channing Frye looked pretty aweful.
- Greg looked really, REALLY hungry to prove himself.
- Blake looks uncomfortable playing with mostly second unit guys.
- I can’t believe we won a championship in an arena which barely seats > 11k.
- Steve Nash is an amazing point guard. Some guy behind me said before the game, “Yeah, I donno about Nash. He’s a borderline hall of fame guy.” No he isn’t. That guy is going right to the hall of fame. One of the great pure passing point guards of the last 10-15 years. Not up there with Stockton but he’s pretty damn close.
- Barbosa had a beastly night.
- Our bench was outscored 48-16 by Phoenix’ bench. Not good.
Oh, and I got my picture taken with Mike Rice, Kevin Pritchard and Bill Schonely.
Regarding Hedo Türkoğlu:
Look at the bright side, Blazers fans -- you dodged a bullet. He peaked statistically two years ago. He's allegedly 30 but could be closer to 32 or 33 for all we know. (Do you trust Turkish birth certificates? And isn't it weird that he played four years of pro ball in Turkey in the 1990s?)
- Bill Simmons of ESPN.com
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