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Preseason Gameday Open Thread -- Suns (2nd half)

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Second half talk goes here.

I hope you like what you're hearing!

-- Ben (benjamin.golliver@gmail.com)

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lol almost

by delbar on Oct 14, 2009 8:31 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

nada.

oden doin work tonight.

Notes to Broyposse: "Don't let him pull that move, Don't let him pull that move! That's the move! Ohhhhhhh that's the move!"

by B-ROYalty on Oct 14, 2009 8:31 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

c'mon Roy

step your game up!

by 6manoffense on Oct 14, 2009 8:31 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Brandon Roy

You’ve got to make your freethrows!!!

by 6manoffense on Oct 14, 2009 8:32 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

youvegottomakeyourfreethrows

Dictated, not read. The management.

by Samsara on Oct 14, 2009 8:32 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Free Schonley!!

Dictated, not read. The management.

by Samsara on Oct 14, 2009 8:33 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Oden is 8/9

I’ll take that.

Disclaimer: everything I know about basketball I learned on Blazersedge.

by pualo on Oct 14, 2009 8:33 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

92nd

"And in the end
The love you take
Is equal to the love you make." -The Beatles

by 92wastheyear on Oct 14, 2009 8:33 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

70-67?

My team went to the playoffs in my first year.

by pxilpooshr on Oct 14, 2009 8:34 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

ah 69-68

My team went to the playoffs in my first year.

by pxilpooshr on Oct 14, 2009 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

59th

Brandon Roy, 'nuff said.

by johnv59 on Oct 14, 2009 8:34 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

We can't believe?

Why not?

nearly got hit with a t shirt cannon t shirt while typing

worse than travis
-Ben.

by rockingharder on Oct 14, 2009 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

YGTMYFTS

"And in the end
The love you take
Is equal to the love you make." -The Beatles

by 92wastheyear on Oct 14, 2009 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

you gotta try my yellow feathered tractor shoes.

Andre to Roy alley oops = 24-7 = All day every day

by dpnim on Oct 14, 2009 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lunch time here in Hong Kong. Gimme a smoke’n Blazers second half to chew on.
Anyone able to find an iPhone friendly link btw? It hates Flash so justintv is out.

"Is it always like this?" Collins said after the scrimmage. "It was like the first game of the NBA playoffs or something."

by Y5k on Oct 14, 2009 8:35 PM PDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Hopefully this works

http://qik.com/sexrexhatesyou

"We didn't start the fire. It was always burning. Since the world's been turning." - E. E. Cummings

by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Oct 14, 2009 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks SexyRexy!

I think it will work.
Remind me to buy you a Cambodian pizza someday.

"Is it always like this?" Collins said after the scrimmage. "It was like the first game of the NBA playoffs or something."

by Y5k on Oct 14, 2009 10:00 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

I'm khmer.

We make pizzas?

Andre to Roy alley oops = 24-7 = All day every day

by dpnim on Oct 14, 2009 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Happy Pizzas

"We didn't start the fire. It was always burning. Since the world's been turning." - E. E. Cummings

by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Oct 15, 2009 1:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let me know if worked for you

"We didn't start the fire. It was always burning. Since the world's been turning." - E. E. Cummings

by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Oct 15, 2009 1:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You've GOT to...

(Oden shooting 80% this pre-season, hits 1-2)

by Visionary2 on Oct 14, 2009 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

"And in the end
The love you take
Is equal to the love you make." -The Beatles

by 92wastheyear on Oct 14, 2009 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

RIP CITY

Disclaimer: everything I know about basketball I learned on Blazersedge.

by pualo on Oct 14, 2009 8:36 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

rip city baby

bayless leaves over my dead body
andre miller>hedo, blake
real.baller
R.A.M.B.O (do it nate, if you are smart)
"I could have killed 'em all, I could kill you. In town you're the law, out here it's me. Don't push it. Don't push it or I'll give you a war you won't believe. Let it (last years starting line-up) go. Let it go."

by thomasikehara on Oct 14, 2009 8:36 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Rip City Baby!!!

"And in the end
The love you take
Is equal to the love you make." -The Beatles

by 92wastheyear on Oct 14, 2009 8:36 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

can i get a boxscore link por favor?

I've tried for quite some time to come up with an epic signature. I now realize that I don't post frequently enough for it to really matter.

by Marmaduke on Oct 14, 2009 8:36 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

thx

I've tried for quite some time to come up with an epic signature. I now realize that I don't post frequently enough for it to really matter.

by Marmaduke on Oct 14, 2009 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

http://www.nba.com/games/20091014/PHXPOR/boxscore.html

Disclaimer: everything I know about basketball I learned on Blazersedge.

by pualo on Oct 14, 2009 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is that enough?

Disclaimer: everything I know about basketball I learned on Blazersedge.

by pualo on Oct 14, 2009 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Webster anyone

Pretty damn good game

by MadBlaze on Oct 14, 2009 8:37 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

"Climibing the golden ladder for that rebound was.... Aldridge!" - Schonz...

GREAT at saying words until you remember the one you’re looking for!

by Visionary2 on Oct 14, 2009 8:38 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Barbosa pulls a Jack

nearly got hit with a t shirt cannon t shirt while typing

worse than travis
-Ben.

by rockingharder on Oct 14, 2009 8:39 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

the Blazers have not played well this preseason at all

not a huge concern as its preseason, but somewhat of a concern.

by jksnake99 on Oct 14, 2009 8:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

free throws were pretty bad last preaseason too

bayless leaves over my dead body
andre miller>hedo, blake
real.baller
R.A.M.B.O (do it nate, if you are smart)
"I could have killed 'em all, I could kill you. In town you're the law, out here it's me. Don't push it. Don't push it or I'll give you a war you won't believe. Let it (last years starting line-up) go. Let it go."

by thomasikehara on Oct 14, 2009 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sorry

Aren’t they 2-1?

by GMan83201 on Oct 14, 2009 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

consider the opponents

beating the Kings by 3 is not good.

by jksnake99 on Oct 14, 2009 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

with nobody playing

bayless leaves over my dead body
andre miller>hedo, blake
real.baller
R.A.M.B.O (do it nate, if you are smart)
"I could have killed 'em all, I could kill you. In town you're the law, out here it's me. Don't push it. Don't push it or I'll give you a war you won't believe. Let it (last years starting line-up) go. Let it go."

by thomasikehara on Oct 14, 2009 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But it's preseason

we’re playing our starters for like 30 minutes. How can you expect them to be in midseason form?

by GMan83201 on Oct 14, 2009 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not really, but you can say they need to sharpen up quick.

The turnovers are ridiculous, even for a preseason game.

Yes! Yes! In the face!

by LeafHawk on Oct 14, 2009 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did you watch last preseason?

Turnovers are the name of the game.

by GMan83201 on Oct 14, 2009 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So you're saying 20 turnovers a game is common in preseason???

That’s what they’re on pace for right now. I don’t care if that’s a pickup game in August, that’s a lot.

Yes! Yes! In the face!

by LeafHawk on Oct 14, 2009 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sorry

Weren’t the two wins against Sacramento??

They might be winning but they ain’t playing well

by MadBlaze on Oct 14, 2009 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

they seem completely out of sync on both ends. they’ve won on sheer talent against the Kings, and kept it close against the Clippers for the same reason, but definately playing more like a group of individuals more so than a cohesive team thus far

How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009

by douglast on Oct 14, 2009 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gotta find their rhythm though

if you watch Rambo in reverse, Sly is healing everyone with his magical, bullet-sucking vacuum

by Tyler Durrden on Oct 14, 2009 8:44 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Use the pre season to learn

and try to win
learnin’ is most importtant

Elizabeth had a partner and he had a rap from the cops, Him and Lenny Suckerpunch were just out Tooling around

by Lizzy Lowblow on Oct 14, 2009 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

what was our record last pre season, just curious?

Rip City Baby...People have no idea what is coming.

Follow my twitter www.twitter.com/PDXBlazersFTW, @PDXBlazersFTW. Lots of random Blazer Posts from links I find around the blogosphere.

by lanepete on Oct 14, 2009 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

for the first time this pre season

trout is playing small forward

cash rules everything around me CREAM get tha money dolla dolla bill yaaaaallll

by staceyaugmon4HOF on Oct 14, 2009 8:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

nope

he played against the clips with batum out

Come on you gotta listen unto me,
lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be. ~Johnny Cash

by HurraKane212 on Oct 14, 2009 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

mike rice lied to me

cash rules everything around me CREAM get tha money dolla dolla bill yaaaaallll

by staceyaugmon4HOF on Oct 14, 2009 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Schonz is right though...Turnoversand Free Throws...

My Dad didn’t know anything about hoops, really, less than most of us 13 year olds, but we needed a coach. He stressed one thing: make your free throws…

We went 13-0, and my Dad retired undefeated…

by Visionary2 on Oct 14, 2009 8:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

nice.

My team went to the playoffs in my first year.

by pxilpooshr on Oct 14, 2009 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And play perimeter defense

if you watch Rambo in reverse, Sly is healing everyone with his magical, bullet-sucking vacuum

by Tyler Durrden on Oct 14, 2009 8:47 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

No go-to guy

Unless you count Outlaw. Basically three SFs.

by GMan83201 on Oct 14, 2009 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

"They're pickin em up and layin em down"...

Unfortuntaely, he’s not talking about Blazers…

by Visionary2 on Oct 14, 2009 8:46 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Boo!

So sad it’s the 4th quarter!

by Visionary2 on Oct 14, 2009 8:46 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

standing o for schonz

cash rules everything around me CREAM get tha money dolla dolla bill yaaaaallll

by staceyaugmon4HOF on Oct 14, 2009 8:46 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Well done, Schonz!

Come back again soon!

nearly got hit with a t shirt cannon t shirt while typing

worse than travis
-Ben.

by rockingharder on Oct 14, 2009 8:47 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

good night schonz

thanks for the memories

Elizabeth had a partner and he had a rap from the cops, Him and Lenny Suckerpunch were just out Tooling around

by Lizzy Lowblow on Oct 14, 2009 8:47 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Nice job Schonz!!

Sorry the Blazers didn’t give you much to work with!

by 6manoffense on Oct 14, 2009 8:47 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Bye Schonz

Thanks for the memories……

The young know the rules.
The old know the exceptions.

by blazerfrog on Oct 14, 2009 8:47 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Don't you blame the Blazers for that?

Wondering what moves Pritchard would make to land me a date in the off-season. Preferably one with tickets.

by MikeIrish on Oct 14, 2009 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great job Schonz!

I noticed that I like Mike Rice more the less time he has to speak.

Small doses Mike, small doses.

Wondering what moves Pritchard would make to land me a date in the off-season. Preferably one with tickets.

by MikeIrish on Oct 14, 2009 8:48 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

lol

I like Mike Rice. He’s a guilty pleasure.

by Illmatic88 on Oct 14, 2009 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

thats what theyre gonna half to do

to beat people this year

cash rules everything around me CREAM get tha money dolla dolla bill yaaaaallll

by staceyaugmon4HOF on Oct 14, 2009 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes

http://www.justin.tv/levelhed

Elizabeth had a partner and he had a rap from the cops, Him and Lenny Suckerpunch were just out Tooling around

by Lizzy Lowblow on Oct 14, 2009 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

SWEET!

Wondering what moves Pritchard would make to land me a date in the off-season. Preferably one with tickets.

by MikeIrish on Oct 14, 2009 8:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

YAH!!!!! WOOOOOO!!!!!

Schonz is doing the 4th!!

Yes! Yes! In the face!

by LeafHawk on Oct 14, 2009 8:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

WHEELS GIVES THE 4TH TO SCHONZ!!!!!

nearly got hit with a t shirt cannon t shirt while typing

worse than travis
-Ben.

by rockingharder on Oct 14, 2009 8:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Take it home Schonz!

Wondering what moves Pritchard would make to land me a date in the off-season. Preferably one with tickets.

by MikeIrish on Oct 14, 2009 8:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't we have 2 separate units

with Miller and Oden as starters

by JasonT on Oct 14, 2009 8:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

schonz n wheels

Elizabeth had a partner and he had a rap from the cops, Him and Lenny Suckerpunch were just out Tooling around

by Lizzy Lowblow on Oct 14, 2009 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wheels=class

Dictated, not read. The management.

by Samsara on Oct 14, 2009 8:49 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Recall!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The young know the rules.
The old know the exceptions.

by blazerfrog on Oct 14, 2009 8:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

haha, I called it!

(called it) Thanks Wheels!

by 6manoffense on Oct 14, 2009 8:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Good man Wheels

(insert inspirational quote here)

by Milkbomb on Oct 14, 2009 8:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

CatMan2>> there you go!

Wondering what moves Pritchard would make to land me a date in the off-season. Preferably one with tickets.

by MikeIrish on Oct 14, 2009 8:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

the right thing to do

glad to hear he can finish the game

by asimms21 on Oct 14, 2009 8:50 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

brian wheeler is the man

cash rules everything around me CREAM get tha money dolla dolla bill yaaaaallll

by staceyaugmon4HOF on Oct 14, 2009 8:50 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

So the most important thing this offseason was how Oden would play.

And he’s statistically our best player so far. So we’re blowing every team out, right? Wait, hmm.

Disclaimer: everything I know about basketball I learned on Blazersedge.

by pualo on Oct 14, 2009 8:52 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Most important thing.

Not the ONLY important thing. Big distinction.

by Timmay! on Oct 14, 2009 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wheels was right

Schonz is hot

smokin hot

Dictated, not read. The management.

by Samsara on Oct 14, 2009 8:52 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

16 turnovers, andre miller back in

cash rules everything around me CREAM get tha money dolla dolla bill yaaaaallll

by staceyaugmon4HOF on Oct 14, 2009 8:52 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Sloppy

if you watch Rambo in reverse, Sly is healing everyone with his magical, bullet-sucking vacuum

by Tyler Durrden on Oct 14, 2009 8:52 PM PDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

They let Schonz finish the game

should have let him finish his career. Tragedy.

by goblazer1 on Oct 14, 2009 8:52 PM PDT reply actions   4 recs

rec

Yes! Yes! In the face!

by LeafHawk on Oct 14, 2009 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I actually got pretty emotional when I heard him

I can’t believe we have been robbed of all these years of listening to him

by goblazer1 on Oct 14, 2009 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm calm, I'm just stating the obvious here

Fortunately, the result of this game means nothing.

by jksnake99 on Oct 14, 2009 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If this game meant anything

the lineups would be different, more steady, and the result would be more than likely different. I’m fine with Nate trying different things right now. Andre and Steve are in the same lineup right now! that will never happen during the season. I just don’t think much other than individual play can be judged at this point

by Illmatic88 on Oct 14, 2009 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah I more or less agree

You’d still rather play well than not play well though.

by jksnake99 on Oct 14, 2009 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He has a point.

Same old problems, same old results.

The Natural = SELFISH
The Golden Boy = SELFISH
Mr. Sonic = SELFISH
The Texan = SELFISH
Android = SELFISH

by The Pirate on Oct 14, 2009 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

These refs suck!

if you watch Rambo in reverse, Sly is healing everyone with his magical, bullet-sucking vacuum

by Tyler Durrden on Oct 14, 2009 8:53 PM PDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

ALL refs suck

nearly got hit with a t shirt cannon t shirt while typing

worse than travis
-Ben.

by rockingharder on Oct 14, 2009 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Geez!

Finish the deal so we can get some real refs in here!

by mjsmith3 on Oct 14, 2009 8:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

this game is really really sloppy.

RIP CITY

by greatestfall on Oct 14, 2009 8:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

thanks you, wheels

classy. so happy to have shonz for another qtr!

by Mattyb on Oct 14, 2009 8:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

"And everybody in the building KNEW that was a travelling call..."

“I don’t want to know their names”
“I don’t care either”…

I won’t quote them cuz… the NBA…

by Visionary2 on Oct 14, 2009 8:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The Schonz

Schonz sounds as smooth as a B.Roy Jumper, Silky.

by j15blazer on Oct 14, 2009 8:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

"blazers better get their act together a little bit"

schonz

cash rules everything around me CREAM get tha money dolla dolla bill yaaaaallll

by staceyaugmon4HOF on Oct 14, 2009 8:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

during regular season Nate may want to keep

at least one of Roy, Oden or Aldridge in.

by JasonT on Oct 14, 2009 8:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Przy -4

Oden -4

Bench them all!

Disclaimer: everything I know about basketball I learned on Blazersedge.

by pualo on Oct 14, 2009 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

you cant blame it on pryz

hes not the one committing all the turnovers

cash rules everything around me CREAM get tha money dolla dolla bill yaaaaallll

by staceyaugmon4HOF on Oct 14, 2009 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

second that

thanks wheeler, keeping it classy

by j15blazer on Oct 14, 2009 8:54 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

this is getting ugly

10 point phoenix lead

cash rules everything around me CREAM get tha money dolla dolla bill yaaaaallll

by staceyaugmon4HOF on Oct 14, 2009 8:54 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

How about his signature

“Thanks for listening wherever you may be,” which I noticed Colin Cowherd kind of ripped off

by goblazer1 on Oct 14, 2009 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

please no more

do you have a paypal? I’ll send you money to stop

by Illmatic88 on Oct 14, 2009 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

hes been troubling all pre season

cash rules everything around me CREAM get tha money dolla dolla bill yaaaaallll

by staceyaugmon4HOF on Oct 14, 2009 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't have known if you hadn't said so.

His name has not been said much tonight.

by levelhed on Oct 14, 2009 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What I appreciate most about Schonz...

If Wheels was in during this stretch I’d be just about ready to tune out.

by levelhed on Oct 14, 2009 8:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

He'd be railing against the refs in a tirade right now.

While not criticizing the Blazers of course.

Yes! Yes! In the face!

by LeafHawk on Oct 14, 2009 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

3 pt. Shooting

Suns 10 for 19
Blazers 1 for 9

Ouch.

Yes! Yes! In the face!

by LeafHawk on Oct 14, 2009 8:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Nate should stop experimenting

And make the team play good

if you watch Rambo in reverse, Sly is healing everyone with his magical, bullet-sucking vacuum

by Tyler Durrden on Oct 14, 2009 8:56 PM PDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

He'll do that

when the games count

maybe

Disclaimer: everything I know about basketball I learned on Blazersedge.

by pualo on Oct 14, 2009 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stats

Blazers 10/19 free throws
Suns 10/19 3 pointers

The young know the rules.
The old know the exceptions.

by blazerfrog on Oct 14, 2009 8:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Too bad free throws aren't worth 3 points; we'd be tied

Disclaimer: everything I know about basketball I learned on Blazersedge.

by pualo on Oct 14, 2009 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

funny

how shonz sounds exactly the same as the old school broadcasts. and probably because of the crappy internet screen, he sounds the same as my 1977 championship LP.

by Mattyb on Oct 14, 2009 8:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Lovin It

it’s not you, levelhed, it’s my terrible connection + speakers. taking me back, regardless. now if we can just rally in the game….

by Mattyb on Oct 14, 2009 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Blazers turning the ball over pretty much feeds the Suns offense

Preseason. McMillan is pretty much guaranteeing a sloppy beginning to the season due to his indecision regarding rotations.

"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith

by blzrfan on Oct 14, 2009 8:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Not necessarily

Its still preseason

by goblazer1 on Oct 14, 2009 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

FEED ODEN

Blazers HAVE to take some high-percentage shots. None of this “Andre Miller reverse layup” stuff.

nearly got hit with a t shirt cannon t shirt while typing

worse than travis
-Ben.

by rockingharder on Oct 14, 2009 8:59 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of which..

He just had an And-1.

by Bnaz777 on Oct 14, 2009 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right on cue, huh?

nearly got hit with a t shirt cannon t shirt while typing

worse than travis
-Ben.

by rockingharder on Oct 14, 2009 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Varsity coming back in"...

“Shows you what Nate thinks of the bench tonite” – Ricey

by Visionary2 on Oct 14, 2009 9:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Schonz does call it slower than Wheels

and seems to miss some details but still love hearing his voice again

by goblazers78749 on Oct 14, 2009 9:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

out of practice

and 80 years old

"And in the end
The love you take
Is equal to the love you make." -The Beatles

by 92wastheyear on Oct 14, 2009 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Miller has the best pump fake in the league.

"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith

by blzrfan on Oct 14, 2009 9:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Best lob thrower in the league.

Most durable point guard in the league.

by Nick Van Excellent on Oct 14, 2009 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Miller! "Little dance step, it went in".. - Schonz

“IQ Basketball for Andre Miller” – Rice

by Visionary2 on Oct 14, 2009 9:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Are all the box scores frozen?

Disclaimer: everything I know about basketball I learned on Blazersedge.

by pualo on Oct 14, 2009 9:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

not anymore

Disclaimer: everything I know about basketball I learned on Blazersedge.

by pualo on Oct 14, 2009 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Even Ricey taking part in the whole

“They’d be an all-star if they played against the Blazers every night” thing

Love.

by L-TrainFTW! on Oct 14, 2009 9:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

ugh

That’s the kind of injury that just lingers on and on…

nearly got hit with a t shirt cannon t shirt while typing

worse than travis
-Ben.

by rockingharder on Oct 14, 2009 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like he needs some rest.

Didn’t he have a sore back about midway through the season last season?

"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."

by Seijeff on Oct 14, 2009 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

hahah love that shonz and rice are still on the air

"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"

by cloudydays on Oct 14, 2009 9:03 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Good – Martell.
Bad – Blake.
Ugly – Roy.

nearly got hit with a t shirt cannon t shirt while typing

worse than travis
-Ben.

by rockingharder on Oct 14, 2009 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who says big men aren't marketable?

nearly got hit with a t shirt cannon t shirt while typing

worse than travis
-Ben.

by rockingharder on Oct 14, 2009 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My take..

Good: Oden, Miller. (Schonz)
Bad: Roy
Ugly: Radio only broadcast

by Visionary2 on Oct 14, 2009 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good: Phoenix

Bad: Portland
Ugly: the game

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by pualo on Oct 14, 2009 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

WINNAR!!!

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on Oct 14, 2009 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nash is killing us

Not too unusual, but it would be nice to have somebody pay some attention to him

by goblazer1 on Oct 14, 2009 9:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

He always does.

nearly got hit with a t shirt cannon t shirt while typing

worse than travis
-Ben.

by rockingharder on Oct 14, 2009 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's because

we don’t have PGs who are defensive stoppers. love both SB + AM, but they just can’t stop anyone

by Mattyb on Oct 14, 2009 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nash is thinking about that huge game Roy had last time.

My team went to the playoffs in my first year.

by pxilpooshr on Oct 14, 2009 9:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

good: oden
bad: 16 turnovers
ugly: lineup experimenting

cash rules everything around me CREAM get tha money dolla dolla bill yaaaaallll

by staceyaugmon4HOF on Oct 14, 2009 9:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

also bad and ugly

1 of 10 threes

cash rules everything around me CREAM get tha money dolla dolla bill yaaaaallll

by staceyaugmon4HOF on Oct 14, 2009 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

make that 17 turnovers

cash rules everything around me CREAM get tha money dolla dolla bill yaaaaallll

by staceyaugmon4HOF on Oct 14, 2009 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Miller, Aldridge, Roy Oden and who? Webster?

by goblazer1 on Oct 14, 2009 9:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Schonz - Blazers can't buy a basket

haven’t heard that one in a while…

by goblazers78749 on Oct 14, 2009 9:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Is there a big on the court?

get the damn ball to oden. hes money and he knows it.

by saveourbluths on Oct 14, 2009 9:07 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

to bad

people had to pay to watch this lineup experiment

Brandon Roy, 'nuff said.

by johnv59 on Oct 14, 2009 9:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Schonz: “Blazer ball? No! FANS don’t like it! I don’t blame ’em!”

nearly got hit with a t shirt cannon t shirt while typing

worse than travis
-Ben.

by rockingharder on Oct 14, 2009 9:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Garbage Time?

say it Shonz

Brandon Roy, 'nuff said.

by johnv59 on Oct 14, 2009 9:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Lol @ Schonz

"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith

by blzrfan on Oct 14, 2009 9:09 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Lamar Aldrige for 2

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by pualo on Oct 14, 2009 9:09 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

"lamar aldrich"?

bayless leaves over my dead body
andre miller>hedo, blake
real.baller
R.A.M.B.O (do it nate, if you are smart)
"I could have killed 'em all, I could kill you. In town you're the law, out here it's me. Don't push it. Don't push it or I'll give you a war you won't believe. Let it (last years starting line-up) go. Let it go."

by thomasikehara on Oct 14, 2009 9:09 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Lamar aldridge LMAO

Rip City Baby...People have no idea what is coming.

Follow my twitter www.twitter.com/PDXBlazersFTW, @PDXBlazersFTW. Lots of random Blazer Posts from links I find around the blogosphere.

by lanepete on Oct 14, 2009 9:09 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

schonz just called LMA

lamar aldridge

cash rules everything around me CREAM get tha money dolla dolla bill yaaaaallll

by staceyaugmon4HOF on Oct 14, 2009 9:09 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

La...mar? Aldridge

"And in the end
The love you take
Is equal to the love you make." -The Beatles

by 92wastheyear on Oct 14, 2009 9:09 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't think you can read too much into this game as I've said

but our Defense seems to be bad…but maybe the Suns are just hot tonight. Hard to say without seeing the game

by Illmatic88 on Oct 14, 2009 9:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

im curious to see how open the threes theyve been hitting are

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by staceyaugmon4HOF on Oct 14, 2009 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Very open

Perimeter d was non existant

if you watch Rambo in reverse, Sly is healing everyone with his magical, bullet-sucking vacuum

by Tyler Durrden on Oct 14, 2009 9:13 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

not good

cash rules everything around me CREAM get tha money dolla dolla bill yaaaaallll

by staceyaugmon4HOF on Oct 14, 2009 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is to buy these 10 packs...

Because if you don’t buy them as 10-packs, we’re not going to sell them individually, we’re going to make the rookies eat the paper tickets…

by Visionary2 on Oct 14, 2009 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha

nearly got hit with a t shirt cannon t shirt while typing

worse than travis
-Ben.

by rockingharder on Oct 14, 2009 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh how I love that stat line

17 points 13 rebounds and 1 foul for oden so far

Love.

by L-TrainFTW! on Oct 14, 2009 9:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The Blazers were 4-3 in preseason last year, FWIW

Wins over Sac, Atlanta, @ Sac and @ Clips.
Losses to GSW, Utah and @ Utah.

by jksnake99 on Oct 14, 2009 9:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

thanks for finding that.

Rip City Baby...People have no idea what is coming.

Follow my twitter www.twitter.com/PDXBlazersFTW, @PDXBlazersFTW. Lots of random Blazer Posts from links I find around the blogosphere.

by lanepete on Oct 14, 2009 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow people leaving already

if you watch Rambo in reverse, Sly is healing everyone with his magical, bullet-sucking vacuum

by Tyler Durrden on Oct 14, 2009 9:11 PM PDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Wow people leaving already

if you watch Rambo in reverse, Sly is healing everyone with his magical, bullet-sucking vacuum

by Tyler Durrden on Oct 14, 2009 9:11 PM PDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

“12 fuh… three pointers”

by rolo_poloo on Oct 14, 2009 9:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

seems

like we’re still working on the transition defense schemes. well, lets be honest, all defensive schemes…

by Mattyb on Oct 14, 2009 9:12 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Rudy and Batum resting still

Combined for 17 min this game

by KitIsh on Oct 14, 2009 9:12 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'll pretend it's because of the preseason, not because of injury or mancrushes.

nearly got hit with a t shirt cannon t shirt while typing

worse than travis
-Ben.

by rockingharder on Oct 14, 2009 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The two Euros have each played fewer than 10 minutes tonight

I’ll say it again— if these two guys get the shaft during the regular season, I will be displeased.

by jksnake99 on Oct 14, 2009 9:12 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

Yup.

Hella rec.

nearly got hit with a t shirt cannon t shirt while typing

worse than travis
-Ben.

by rockingharder on Oct 14, 2009 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

still resting them from the euros, i’d guess….

by Mattyb on Oct 14, 2009 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

KP made it very clear that they planned to rest Batum and Rudy during the preseason

To keep them from wearing down faster during the regular season, after all their Summer activity overseas.

No reason to assume anything from their limited minutes.

by Timmay! on Oct 14, 2009 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No problem.

I personally asked him the question at the media event, and he was pretty clear they wanted to prevent those two from hitting the wall if possible.

If they’re playing very little minutes during the last two preseason games, as Nate cements his rotation… then it’s time to worry.

by Timmay! on Oct 14, 2009 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

who says miller cant shoot

bayless leaves over my dead body
andre miller>hedo, blake
real.baller
R.A.M.B.O (do it nate, if you are smart)
"I could have killed 'em all, I could kill you. In town you're the law, out here it's me. Don't push it. Don't push it or I'll give you a war you won't believe. Let it (last years starting line-up) go. Let it go."

by thomasikehara on Oct 14, 2009 9:12 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

LMA playing center

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by pualo on Oct 14, 2009 9:13 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Needs practice

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by pualo on Oct 14, 2009 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

rec

Brandon Roy, 'nuff said.

by johnv59 on Oct 14, 2009 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They can do whatever

As long as I can watch on tv and don’t have to hear the radio feed

by KitIsh on Oct 14, 2009 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He should do like in Seattle with that old guy Neehaus

Have him just call the first half most nights, or something. Something…

by goblazer1 on Oct 14, 2009 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I get a prize!

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by pualo on Oct 14, 2009 9:14 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

have roy come off the bench

he is taking touches away from andre

bayless leaves over my dead body
andre miller>hedo, blake
real.baller
R.A.M.B.O (do it nate, if you are smart)
"I could have killed 'em all, I could kill you. In town you're the law, out here it's me. Don't push it. Don't push it or I'll give you a war you won't believe. Let it (last years starting line-up) go. Let it go."

by thomasikehara on Oct 14, 2009 9:14 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

lol

"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"

by cloudydays on Oct 14, 2009 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lickity

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by pualo on Oct 14, 2009 9:14 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

PANIC!

"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"

by cloudydays on Oct 14, 2009 9:14 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm with cloudy!!!!

Run for your lives!!!

if you watch Rambo in reverse, Sly is healing everyone with his magical, bullet-sucking vacuum

by Tyler Durrden on Oct 14, 2009 9:40 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

we have to remember that the suns are good

its not like theyre a completely different team than the one they had 2 or 3 years ago.

and theyre employing a similary strat to 7 seconds or less

by saveourbluths on Oct 14, 2009 9:14 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

i agree

BUT, if were gonna discount roys rough start, we should hold off on oden for the same reason. its pre season

cash rules everything around me CREAM get tha money dolla dolla bill yaaaaallll

by staceyaugmon4HOF on Oct 14, 2009 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Roy starts out looking bad almost every year so far.

This may be the first year no one says he should be traded (sell high!) as a result.

by zaruga on Oct 14, 2009 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

give andre the 75mil

if roy continues this in the regular season

by flipboi on Oct 14, 2009 9:15 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

lol

"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"

by cloudydays on Oct 14, 2009 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

chill

its pre season. weve seen outlaw score 24 points in a game before too

cash rules everything around me CREAM get tha money dolla dolla bill yaaaaallll

by staceyaugmon4HOF on Oct 14, 2009 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

goaltending

bayless leaves over my dead body
andre miller>hedo, blake
real.baller
R.A.M.B.O (do it nate, if you are smart)
"I could have killed 'em all, I could kill you. In town you're the law, out here it's me. Don't push it. Don't push it or I'll give you a war you won't believe. Let it (last years starting line-up) go. Let it go."

by thomasikehara on Oct 14, 2009 9:15 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I love roy, but c'mon!!!

WHERE ARE YOU???

So far, this blazer team looks just like last year. No defense. Trying to come from behind. Roy inconsistent.

by 6manoffense on Oct 14, 2009 9:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

lol

"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"

by cloudydays on Oct 14, 2009 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's preseason...

It doesn’t mean anything… Wait until the last 2 preseason games… It’ll all come together.

by Ilikeemall on Oct 14, 2009 9:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

BTW

i’m so sick of seeing/hearing l*ker talk down here. it’s obnoxious.

by Mattyb on Oct 14, 2009 9:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I say the starting PG and starting C spots are no longer up for debate.

Miller should play 32-34 minutes per night, this guy’s a player.

We completely ignored Oden in the 2nd half – since I can’t see anything, I don’t know if there just wasn’t looks there or what, but he got almost no shots at all after the break.

How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009

by douglast on Oct 14, 2009 9:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

No joke.

He’s sooooo much better than Blake.

by Nick Van Excellent on Oct 14, 2009 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

RAMWO

Miller and Oden go together.
Webster really SOUNDING great.

by Berkeley on Oct 14, 2009 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Batum as a 20 year old rookie was better than Webster as a 21 year old 3rd year man

The burden of proof is on Webster to prove he’s gotten substantially better. One game doesn’t do that for me.

by jksnake99 on Oct 14, 2009 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've been opening supporting RAMWO for a while...

I personally think you’re underestimating Webster. But since we can’t see the games, there’s too little info for a useful discussion.

No matter who I’d personally support, I want the best SF to start, whomever earns it in training camp and preseason.

by Timmay! on Oct 14, 2009 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

considering how much they are resting Batum and Rudy

it seems like there is no room for a true competition during the preseason for the starting SF spot…

maybe during the reg. season Webster will continue to prove himself and something will develop

"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"

by cloudydays on Oct 14, 2009 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah you're right, that's the hard part

I’m guessing they’ll have to make decisions based on limited gametime for Batum, and practice competition.

Also, Nate doesn’t give up a players’ starting role due to injury. So the SF position is presumably Webster’s if he is equal to Batum instead of vice versa. Or else Nate will have changed his stance on injuries (possible).

by Timmay! on Oct 14, 2009 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really?

I’d think that because Batum started all last year, he’d be considered the incumbent.

nearly got hit with a t shirt cannon t shirt while typing

worse than travis
-Ben.

by rockingharder on Oct 14, 2009 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Technically he was substituting for an injured guy all year.

He was only starting due to Webster’s injury. Unless Webster had really struggled, it’s fair to assume Batum would have played limited minutes.

by Timmay! on Oct 14, 2009 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's an interesting position

i would assume that despite Webster’s injury, as rockingharder said above, Batum would be considered the incumbent

"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"

by cloudydays on Oct 14, 2009 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did Martell start the one game he played in last year?

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worse than travis
-Ben.

by rockingharder on Oct 14, 2009 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Nate likes to start a player slow on injury return

So I presume he came off the bench for the Toronto game.

Of course, he started the preseason game against SAC before his injury.

by Timmay! on Oct 14, 2009 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think when the replacement plays better than the injured dude ever has before

The “you don’t lose your spot due to injury” rule goes out the window. At least it should. Especially when the replacement is younger and has vastly more potential.

by jksnake99 on Oct 14, 2009 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tough line to draw though

And again, just going back to Nate’s philosophy about injuries to starters.

Perhaps this will make a fun Fanpost discussion as preseason goes along. I was being pretty philosophical. But based on Nate’s history and style, it’s reasonable to assume the starting position is actually Martell’s to lose.

by Timmay! on Oct 14, 2009 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's a bit too extreme for my taste

We’d feel lucky if, but some miracle, Batum reached Scottie Pippen levels. And for their respective sports, Pippen isn’t close to Gehrig. (I know, tough comparison on my part).

I know you feel strongly that Batum outshined Martell’s previous season. But I think you’re ignoring any improvements Martell may have had last year.

I have to ignore age as well for these purposes. Batum can learn the game just as easily off the bench, and could still start later.

Just to make it clear, I’m not angrily arguing or anything. Just thinking out loud on a point that we won’t agree on.

If Batum is outplaying Martell, I completely want him to start. But if Martell is playing even a little better, fits with the starters, and sits on the bench because Batum subbed for him last year due to injury, I’ll be thinking “hmmmm.”

by Timmay! on Oct 14, 2009 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's fair

The only way I’ll really lose it is if Batum isn’t getting minutes at all. If Webster starts and plays well, that’s fine. At least until we see how they look in a few real games.

by jksnake99 on Oct 14, 2009 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep. This all may be irrelevant 10 games into the season

Funny enough, it might change again 50 games into the season. (I could see either one hitting the wall this year).

by Timmay! on Oct 14, 2009 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It seems reasonable to be sceptical about any improvements that Webster may have made

considering that he was injured and unable to play basketball most of that time. How could he have improved if he wasn’t healthy enough to practice?

by trk on Oct 14, 2009 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I understand the skepticism too

I noted it in another thread about Martell like 5 minutes ago too.

Don’t forget, Martell looked outstanding in the first game before injury last season. And he had practiced all that Summer.

I suspect we’ll see a much more mature Martell, ready to play, than any season before. That may also help him.

But I’d really like to see him play before really saying he’s ready to start or not.

by Timmay! on Oct 14, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly my point too.

I think people are way too fast to pass judgement in general. It is just the halfway point in the pre-season, very few things could have been determined for sure yet.

"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."

by Seijeff on Oct 14, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Would Batum have been starting if Martell hadn't been injured?

If the answer is no, it’s far from insane. There were many comments of how well we were doing “despite losing Webster”.

Don’t get me wrong, I know you prefer Batum. But based on Nate’s policy, the position is Martell’s.

Worth noting that Nate said the starters are the same as last year at the start of preseason. Nobody believed him, of course, but it set Miller off apparently. I wonder how Nate would have responded had someone reminded him that his injured starter was returning. But that’s beyond the current reporting staff.

Honestly, I think the real point is that it’s neither player’s position by default, because they could both stake a claim. So it’s not about either player needing to look a lot better than the other. It’ll simply go to the player who slightly tilts the see-saw in their direction during preseason.

by Timmay! on Oct 14, 2009 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think we can safely assume

Batum would have been in Idaho for a while if Martel didn’t get hurt. Not a bad thing, but probably would have happened.

Brandon Roy, 'nuff said.

by johnv59 on Oct 14, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I also think it's a reasonable assumption.

The only thing that would have prevented that is what happened with Bayless: They thought he could learn more by staying with the team.

It’s one of those reminders (along with folks like Von Wafer) that sometimes the difference between 12th man (or NBA DL) and borderline starter is sometimes just some consistent playing time and an opening on the roster.

by Timmay! on Oct 14, 2009 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe

or maybe his obvious ability would have shown through and he would have earned pt. His play last year was better than any season Webster or Outlaw has put together.

by jksnake99 on Oct 14, 2009 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

As noted above, that ignores any Martell improvements

But we can discuss that in one thread if you want to cover that. I’m ok if you want to call it good too.

by Timmay! on Oct 14, 2009 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's just silly.

Webster is just as athletically gifted as Batum is. Webster may not be as good on defense, but as I recall, McMillan has a lot of faith in Webster’s defensive abilities and has said he thinks Webster can become a lock-down defender.

But since he hasn’t played in a season, I think you’ve forgotten his offensive skill-set, his defensive assignments on top opposing wing players and his over all athleticism.

Yeah Batum is good, but better than Webster and Outlaw combined? Where’s the hyperbole really coming from?

"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."

by Seijeff on Oct 14, 2009 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

based on the statistical metrics which I prefer

namely basketball prospectus’ WARP, statistical plus-minus, and adjusted plus-minus, Batum’s season last year was the best season any of the three aforementioned players has ever had.

by jksnake99 on Oct 14, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

PER gives the edge to Outlaw

WP48 gives the edge to Batum.

by jksnake99 on Oct 14, 2009 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

PER gives the edge to Outlaw

What more is there to say?

Who would start between Outlaw and Webster? Really, the question should be phrased, “Who can start between Outlaw and Webster?” because we know Outlaw can’t and never has been a starter.

Again, I think that Batum is not as talented on offense as Webster is and Webster is considered a good defender. So saying that Batum is by far and away a huge upgrade on Martell simply because of a statistic which also says Outlaw is better when any objective observer would disagree rather proves the stat can’t be relied upon.

"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."

by Seijeff on Oct 14, 2009 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think he meant the two of them combined.

Pretty sure he meant he felt Batum was better than either of Martell or Outlaw’s best seasons so far, based on his preferred statistical analysis.

The words “put together” probably threw you off.

by Timmay! on Oct 14, 2009 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well yeah.

“Put together” in my mind usually means combined.

"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."

by Seijeff on Oct 14, 2009 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think you are making something out of nothing, at least in the preseason

considering how little Batum has played, and he technically is the “incumbent” small forward, it is practically impossible to have a real “competition” between him and Webster for the starting small forward spot. I believe that Webster could potentially earn his spot back during the regular season, but how fair is it to Batum to be left with little PT to prove himself to the coaching staff and keep his job?

"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"

by cloudydays on Oct 14, 2009 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Honestly, I was just waxing philosophical about Nate's starter policy

I’m as surprised as you that the discussion has gone this far. :)

fair is it to Batum to be left with little PT to prove himself to the coaching staff and keep his job?

Well, rumor was that Batum was made well aware that he’d likely have his playing time cut back when Martell returned.

And it’s no more fair to Martell than Batum, in reality. (“Welcome back from injury, great preseason! Go sit over there.”) No matter what, someone will likely get the shaft to some extent.

by Timmay! on Oct 14, 2009 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

well it is not his choice that KP/the coaches aren't letting Batum play too much

their philosophy this preseason is to give Nic and Rudy as much rest as possible. I’m sure if there was a real competition for it, at least in the preseason, Nic would have been given more of an opportunity to prove himself…

I wonder if Nate explained the situation to Martell and told him that he has a chance to regain his starting job once the real season starts…

"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"

by cloudydays on Oct 14, 2009 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I totally agree that it's hard to judge them fairly when one can go full-speed

and the other is being kept in 1st gear.

On the other hand, they are getting a fair amount of practice together. If, say, Martell and Batum are playing equal in practice, and Martell’s numbers outshine Batum during their on court minutes (adjusted, of course), Nate may have a tough decision on his hands.

I’m enjoying the SF battle far more than the PG battle, partially because I think the PG decision is less complicated. The little discussion here leaves me feeling like that’s not just me.

by Timmay! on Oct 14, 2009 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have no problem with Marty earning his job back in the regular season

it just seems unfair to Batum to give up his starting spot without ever really giving him extended minutes to prove himself

"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"

by cloudydays on Oct 14, 2009 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It also seems unfair for Martell to lose his starting spot because his foot cracked.

If he’d successfully returned in December, this discussion would probably not be happening… he’d have returned to the starting lineup unless he was a really really good fit with the backups.

Really, it’s going to be unfair to someone no matter what. I think we’re all falling to the side of the player we’d prefer to start if all other things are equal. Just guessing there.

I don’t think I’ve noted it in this thread, but I’m actually a big Batum fan. None of this is intended as a knock on him.

by Timmay! on Oct 14, 2009 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

how dare you accuse me of being biased

:)

"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"

by cloudydays on Oct 14, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, a whole year injury is a stretch for that policy.

In Martel’s favor is if we loose Steve’s outside shot, we should bring in Martel with the starting unit. I did go to fanfest and was pleasantly surprised how strong Martell was playing in his first “game” back. I am really just guessing Martel is the man, but have not problem if Nic is it. Whatever the coaches think, and of course we can mix it up. Play the hot hand. Great to have ’em both.

by Berkeley on Oct 14, 2009 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

fair enough.

that was then this now. Looks like a contest though.

by Berkeley on Oct 14, 2009 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Way to foul Nash with 15 seconds left

Disclaimer: everything I know about basketball I learned on Blazersedge.

by pualo on Oct 14, 2009 9:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

sorry-

Dre for tre!

by box out on Oct 14, 2009 9:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

"That makes a lot of sense"

I love this guy

Disclaimer: everything I know about basketball I learned on Blazersedge.

by pualo on Oct 14, 2009 9:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

lol

"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"

by cloudydays on Oct 14, 2009 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

not much more you can say

"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"

by cloudydays on Oct 14, 2009 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No he isn't.

He’s hardly playing at all. That isn’t his fault.

nearly got hit with a t shirt cannon t shirt while typing

worse than travis
-Ben.

by rockingharder on Oct 14, 2009 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"

by cloudydays on Oct 14, 2009 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

this is the team that is supposed to be challanging the Laker in the West

HA! You will be lucky to make the play-offs.

and Olden, congrats on dominating Frye

Kobe>>>>>>LeBron

by meFTW on Oct 14, 2009 9:19 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

lol

"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"

by cloudydays on Oct 14, 2009 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

sigh...

nearly got hit with a t shirt cannon t shirt while typing

worse than travis
-Ben.

by rockingharder on Oct 14, 2009 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

haven't seen you in a while

bayless leaves over my dead body
andre miller>hedo, blake
real.baller
R.A.M.B.O (do it nate, if you are smart)
"I could have killed 'em all, I could kill you. In town you're the law, out here it's me. Don't push it. Don't push it or I'll give you a war you won't believe. Let it (last years starting line-up) go. Let it go."

by thomasikehara on Oct 14, 2009 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i said i would hold out until the first televised game

but anyone who lists the l@kers, yankees, cowboys, duke, michigan and the red wings as there favorite teams is obviously a moron. good job on picking the teams with the best records and saying they are your favorites. you are probably a fan with 2nd favorite teams too, let me guess patriots, celtics, dodgers, north carolina and notre dame? or am i giving you too much credit? lets wait until regular season and see who wins the portland la series. i would put money on oden >>> bynum

LO, praise of the prowess of people-kings of spear-armed Danes, in days long sped, we have heard, and what honor the athelings won! Oft Scyld the Scefing from squadroned foes, from many a tribe, the mead-bench tore, awing the earls. Since erst he lay friendless, a foundling, fate repaid him: for he waxed under welkin, in wealth he throve, till before him the folk, both far and near, who house by the whale-path, heard his mandate, gave him gifts: a good king he! To him an heir was afterward born, a son in his halls, whom heaven sent to favor the folk, feeling their woe that erst they had lacked an earl for leader so long a while; the Lord endowed him, the Wielder of Wonder, with world's renown. Famed was this Beowulf:1 far flew the boast of him, son of Scyld, in the Scandian lands. So becomes it a youth to quit him well with his father's friends, by fee and gift, that to aid him, aged, in after days, come warriors willing, should war draw nigh, liegemen loyal: by lauded deeds shall an earl have honor in every clan. Forth he fared at the fated moment, sturdy Scyld to the shelter of God. Then they bore him over to ocean's billow, loving clansmen, as late he charged them, while wielded words the winsome Scyld, the leader beloved who long had ruled.... In the roadstead rocked a ring-dight vessel, ice-flecked, outbound, atheling's barge: there laid they down their darling lord on the breast of the boat, the breaker-of-rings,2 by the mast the mighty one. Many a treasure fetched from far was freighted with him. No ship have I known so nobly dight with weapons of war and weeds of battle, with breastplate and blade: on his bosom lay a heaped hoard that hence should go far o'er the flood with him floating away. No less these loaded the lordly gifts, thanes' huge treasure, than those had done who in former time forth had sent him sole on the seas, a suckling child. High o'er his head they hoist the standard, a gold-wove banner; let billows take him, gave him to ocean. Grave were their spirits, mournful their mood. No man is able to say in sooth, no son of the halls, no hero 'neath heaven, -- who harbored that freight!

by pipgras on Oct 14, 2009 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh god no

"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"

by cloudydays on Oct 14, 2009 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

kicking our dog

Brandon Roy, 'nuff said.

by johnv59 on Oct 14, 2009 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude, don't feed the troll.

nearly got hit with a t shirt cannon t shirt while typing

worse than travis
-Ben.

by rockingharder on Oct 14, 2009 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They can pull it out

if you watch Rambo in reverse, Sly is healing everyone with his magical, bullet-sucking vacuum

by Tyler Durrden on Oct 14, 2009 9:19 PM PDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

so what do the ppl in the crowd get tonight?

for going over 100, chalupas or are they gonna continue the throw back theme with just tacos?

Happy birthday to the ground!

by phillyduck23 on Oct 14, 2009 9:19 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I’ve always thought Taco Bell food was pretty much throw up back.

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on Oct 14, 2009 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

they should get bean buritos

I don’t know why

Disclaimer: everything I know about basketball I learned on Blazersedge.

by pualo on Oct 14, 2009 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

rec

That one actually made me laugh out loud.

nearly got hit with a t shirt cannon t shirt while typing

worse than travis
-Ben.

by rockingharder on Oct 14, 2009 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stop talking sense the sky is falling!!!! AAAAHHHHHHH!! also, my head is on fire.

My team went to the playoffs in my first year.

by pxilpooshr on Oct 14, 2009 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ships have things that you rig on the mooring lines called "rat guards"

To keep them from geting on board,Tom knows what im talking about

by southern oregon on Oct 14, 2009 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The pleasure was ours.

Thanks Schonz

The young know the rules.
The old know the exceptions.

by blazerfrog on Oct 14, 2009 9:21 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Not taking too much from the preseason...

But Roy and Alridge has been a big disappointment in their effort.

I like to at least see them not coast and get ready for the season. Pre-season is about limiting minutes and finding rhythm. But I think they have been taking it a bit too far with the coasting. Hope to see them turn it up in the last few games.

"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith

by blzrfan on Oct 14, 2009 9:21 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah, I completely agree

Not a big deal, but you’d still like to see more from those two.

by jksnake99 on Oct 14, 2009 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

he did ok

but he wasn’t very efficient and it sounds like he wasn’t doing any posting up— just shooting jumpers.

by jksnake99 on Oct 14, 2009 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I got the impression LMA was basically just shooting open jumpshots

Not particularly active or affecting the game when he was on the floor.

"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith

by blzrfan on Oct 14, 2009 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I actually think they are trying...

but Roy doesn’t seem like a guy who can just turn it on.

by JasonT on Oct 14, 2009 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think its because nate is expirmenting with the offense

and not running the ball through them like he usually does. At least that is the case with Roy. Aldrich seemed to have an okay game?

by goblazer1 on Oct 14, 2009 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

tomorrow at Utah

could get real ugly….

Brandon Roy, 'nuff said.

by johnv59 on Oct 14, 2009 9:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

EVERY game is ugly.

nearly got hit with a t shirt cannon t shirt while typing

worse than travis
-Ben.

by rockingharder on Oct 14, 2009 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So what is the score, anyway?

I am Spartacus and I approved this message

by EngineerScotty on Oct 14, 2009 9:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Danke....

My son will be disappointed. We went to the Sac game, no chalupas. Tonight we don’t go, chalupas. :)

I am Spartacus and I approved this message

by EngineerScotty on Oct 14, 2009 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Webster + Miller = 40 points...

That we didn’t have last year.

by levelhed on Oct 14, 2009 9:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Conveniently overlooking the fact that Brandon is now a 8 ppg. guy...

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on Oct 14, 2009 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Oden is truly a beast, that should make up for it.

nearly got hit with a t shirt cannon t shirt while typing

worse than travis
-Ben.

by rockingharder on Oct 14, 2009 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I admit it, I forgot to factor in...

…Roy’s decline as he has just turned 25…

by irish3 on Oct 14, 2009 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nah...it's because he got the max contract

He’s going to half-ass it not and will balloon up to 350lbs. Just watch!

by xedubx on Oct 14, 2009 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

levelhed

mad props from us out of staters. made my night, W or L.

back soon friends. red+black forever.

by Mattyb on Oct 14, 2009 9:24 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

rec

The young know the rules.
The old know the exceptions.

by blazerfrog on Oct 14, 2009 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, thanks levelhed!

nearly got hit with a t shirt cannon t shirt while typing

worse than travis
-Ben.

by rockingharder on Oct 14, 2009 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're the most popular guy at the Bedge!

"Aneurysm".

When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie

by annthefan on Oct 14, 2009 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe so but you have to have the equipment and the radio feed.

I have neither.

"Aneurysm".

When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie

by annthefan on Oct 14, 2009 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I appreciate the feed greatly

but couldn’t you just put a radio in front of your computer mic?

by twggyy on Oct 14, 2009 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good Night Bedgers

Fell asleep once already, woke up just in time.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Elizabeth had a partner and he had a rap from the cops, Him and Lenny Suckerpunch were just out Tooling around

by Lizzy Lowblow on Oct 14, 2009 9:31 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

night

Brandon Roy, 'nuff said.

by johnv59 on Oct 14, 2009 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nighty night Lizzy. Don't stay gone so long!

"Aneurysm".

When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie

by annthefan on Oct 14, 2009 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok

schonz sang me a lullabye, jeez

Elizabeth had a partner and he had a rap from the cops, Him and Lenny Suckerpunch were just out Tooling around

by Lizzy Lowblow on Oct 14, 2009 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ridi 2 the pub

n drinkin ales.

wut mo can a po boy do?

Elizabeth had a partner and he had a rap from the cops, Him and Lenny Suckerpunch were just out Tooling around

by Lizzy Lowblow on Oct 14, 2009 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

gn SO

Elizabeth had a partner and he had a rap from the cops, Him and Lenny Suckerpunch were just out Tooling around

by Lizzy Lowblow on Oct 14, 2009 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The bright lights

The big city,it went to my baby’s head
You know I tried to tell her but she dont believe a word I said

by southern oregon on Oct 14, 2009 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know it's just preseason.....

But it sounds like our perimeter “d” is right where we left it last year.

"I saw him in the face" Sergio's quote on the latest alley-oop to Rudy.

by blazermaniac32 on Oct 14, 2009 9:32 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

MP3 Q1 - Q3 Created!

Hey guys, I’ve created an .MP3 for Q1 – Q3. Bill is calling the 4th as well and I’ll post that asap!

Link is below:

http://www.blazersedge.com/2009/10/14/1085889/blazers-40th-tribute-10-14-09-bill

by Six Seven Five on Oct 14, 2009 9:32 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Even though

it was an ugly game I wish it was on TV. I got real tired of watching the digital display on my clock radio and trying to guess when the minute digit was going to change. And starting to think the number 3 was a lucky digit. Drove me crazy.

Brandon Roy, 'nuff said.

by johnv59 on Oct 14, 2009 9:34 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

US Soccer scored a late goal today to send Honduras through to the World Cup (at Costa Rica's expense)

US Soccer writer Grant Wahl tweets:

E-mail from pal in Honduras: “Right now the U.S. is king in this country. People in the streets are carrying Honduran and U.S. flags.”

Get Johnathan Bornstein (the goal scorer) a Nobel Peace Prize.

by jksnake99 on Oct 14, 2009 9:38 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

we need to quickly

think of a way to use this to our benefit in Central American politics. LOL

Brandon Roy, 'nuff said.

by johnv59 on Oct 14, 2009 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

"America: Because we kind of like soccer now!"

nearly got hit with a t shirt cannon t shirt while typing

worse than travis
-Ben.

by rockingharder on Oct 14, 2009 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

everyone go to bed?

Brandon Roy, 'nuff said.

by johnv59 on Oct 14, 2009 9:55 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

[crickets]

by levelhed on Oct 14, 2009 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

site was down

Bring back the Uncle Cliffy!

by hawkblogger on Oct 14, 2009 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yea

I’ve noticed when that happens that PREVIEW/POST seems to work a lot, but the straight POST button doesn’t

Brandon Roy, 'nuff said.

by johnv59 on Oct 14, 2009 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

highlights posted anywhere?

Bring back the Uncle Cliffy!

by hawkblogger on Oct 14, 2009 9:59 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

If there are

I really don’t want to see them, ugh.

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Oct 14, 2009 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

you might try

the Shonz radio links in the Fanshots section

Brandon Roy, 'nuff said.

by johnv59 on Oct 14, 2009 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was fun to be there tonight

but you were starving for stats with no hustle board, player stat boards – drove me nuts!!!

by Knobby on Oct 14, 2009 10:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

man it feels good to have real basketball conversations again

:)

"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"

by cloudydays on Oct 14, 2009 10:36 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

hahaha

I’m not a big fan of doing projections and predictions and arguing incessantly about them, especially in July or August. I’ve been bored for months.

It’s nice to actually talk basketball again.

by Timmay! on Oct 14, 2009 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

no kidding

debates about who should start >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trade drawers

"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"

by cloudydays on Oct 14, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

At this point, I'm changing my mind about Greg Oden and Andre Miller. They must start, pronto.

FIRST & THIRD QUARTERS

8 Minutes
C: Greg Oden
PF: LaMarcus Aldridge
SF: Martell Webster
SG: Brandon Roy
PG: Andre Miller

4 Minutes
C: Joel Przybilla
PF: Travis Outlaw
SF: Nicolas Batum
SG: Rudy Fernandez
PG: Steve Blake

SECOND & FOURTH QUARTERS

4 Minutes
C: Joel Przybilla
PF: Travis Outlaw
SF: Nicolas Batum
SG: Brandon Roy
PG: Steve Blake

8 Minutes
C: Greg Oden
PF: LaMarcus Aldridge
SF: Rudy Fernandez
SG: Brandon Roy
PG: Andre Miller

Although that team won’t get past the second round due to major defensive flaws, Travis Outlaw — who, along with Jerryd Bayless, must be traded for a Nick Collison type and possibly some future draft considerations — and the possibility that Brandon Roy won’t mesh with Greg Oden and Andre Miller on the court, it seems to be the best way to move forward into the regular season.

Things can still change over time, though, so nothing is set in stone.

Stupid people have stupid ideas.

by AK1984 on Oct 14, 2009 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's not bad

I’m with you on your closing lineup. I’d still have Batum starting though.

by jksnake99 on Oct 14, 2009 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nicolas Batum and Martell Webster are interchangeable pieces.

One can start each half, while the other can play the middle minutes.

Stupid people have stupid ideas.

by AK1984 on Oct 14, 2009 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay, I roll my eyes again at the micro-managing of minutes... Now, on with the show...

1. A agree with you that A WORM is a better starting lineup than RAMBO. Nic hasn’t done jack in the pre-season, plus Roy makes two.

2. How about we start thinking about alternatives to Travis Outlaw at PF. He is not now, nor has he ever been, nor will he ever be a Power Forward. We have Juwon Howard, why are we wasting time playing Travis?

3. Roy is really slumping. That doesn’t have anything to do with your minutes allocation, but I will say it again.

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on Oct 14, 2009 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Roy is slumping...

and it’s not Andre’s fault either. I think Miller only took like two shots in the first half, so there should have been plenty of opportunity for Roy to make something happen.

by Nick Van Excellent on Oct 15, 2009 12:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not worried

He said he didn’t play much during the off-season, as he was more focused on recuperating/general fitness and conditioning. While I doubt he didn’t touch a ball “at all” as some reports have said (Brandon may have said this as well), he’s playing against high level competition, even though it is pre-season. If this is going on in December, then I’ll hit the panic button.

I hate Comcast.

by blazeraddict on Oct 15, 2009 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, the Juwan Howard > Travis Outlaw argument!

Haven’t seen that one before.

nearly got hit with a t shirt cannon t shirt while typing

worse than travis
-Ben.

by rockingharder on Oct 15, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think I'd bring Blake in earlier in the 1st and 3rd quarters.

and put Andre back in earlier so he and Rudy can play together for a couple minutes on the floor. Dre and Rudy seem like they’d be a good fit together

"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"

by cloudydays on Oct 14, 2009 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

OMG.

Welcome to the dark side.

by Nick Van Excellent on Oct 14, 2009 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

On a different note, the Phoenix Suns should start Amare Stoudemire and Earl Clark as its frontline.

That’s a weak defensive unit, but they’re both more capable of playing okay defensively unlike Channing Frye.

Stupid people have stupid ideas.

by AK1984 on Oct 14, 2009 10:40 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree. Clark is a great fit as a smallball 4 in the Phoenix system.

"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.

by Cablinasian on Oct 14, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

that will be a fun team to watch

with Clark and Stoudemire on the front lines

"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"

by cloudydays on Oct 14, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I felt bad for Frye the moment I heard they had him starting at Center opposite Oden.

All the missed shots didn’t help his situation in that game either. How many three attempts did he have anyway?

"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."

by Seijeff on Oct 14, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think shooting 3s is the right way to use Channing

Shooting is what he does best (this game notwithstanding) and 3s are way more efficient than long 2s. I’m with AK and Cab that Clark is the better fit in the starting lineup though.

by jksnake99 on Oct 14, 2009 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think Frye can be a starter

as a Center or Power Forward unless he starts to really get aggressive in the post, which he just doesn’t seem inclined to do.

Pulling Centers away from the post to defend him is one thing, but unless he can reliably hit his shots, its not going to do anything to help the spacing inside for the Suns.

"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."

by Seijeff on Oct 14, 2009 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The biggest concern to me is the turn overs, and because we can't see the games

it is very hard to determine exactly why they’re having such a hard time with them.

Anyone have any plausible explanations for this problem and any ideas as to whether or not it is something that will be solved in the last four games of the preseason?

"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."

by Seijeff on Oct 14, 2009 10:55 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Travis accounted for most of them. I was there, dude was horrible.

A few were stripped balls that might have been called fouls by real refs

by TheTinfoil on Oct 14, 2009 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Travis and Blake each had 3 and a bunch with 2 each

"Either way we have two phenomenal units. I'm excited to play with either one." - Martell Webster

by lee3022 on Oct 14, 2009 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Has it just been a matter of not paying attention?

"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."

by Seijeff on Oct 14, 2009 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

its worth remembering, whatever you think of Travis,

that he’s a notoriously slow starter that gets better later in the season.

That said, I wouldn’t be giving him too many minutes this year.

by jksnake99 on Oct 14, 2009 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe you had to be there.

it was just obvious that he was tanking the game. everything he did was terrible, both sides of the ball.

by TheTinfoil on Oct 14, 2009 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But... but... he's trying to get paid like out of this world!

nearly got hit with a t shirt cannon t shirt while typing

worse than travis
-Ben.

by rockingharder on Oct 15, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, that's his usual way

But didn’t he spend the summer actually working on his game unlike other summers? He’s made statements about being ready and this being a contract year for him. I would think that he’d try to show up mentally in that situation.

"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."

by Seijeff on Oct 14, 2009 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I could see it if there were a lot of new plays being called...

and people were out of position when the ball was passed to them. That’s probably natural in the first few games of the preseason, but I would think that as the rotation tightens up – as it was supposed to tonight – that the number of turnovers and type of turnovers would have been reduced pretty drastically.

"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."

by Seijeff on Oct 14, 2009 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How did Roy look

His shot was off, clearly, but was he as passive as he was in the other games?

by jksnake99 on Oct 14, 2009 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

no, he had some intentionall take-over moments, and looked good doing it.

It’s different with Miller, because unlike Blake, Miller can make his own shot, and is more creative, so Roy can’t assume that the PG is always looking for him.

by TheTinfoil on Oct 14, 2009 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Visit the JD too

Prez and a few others who returned from the game are having postgame conversations over there.

by Timmay! on Oct 14, 2009 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

mostly just jumpers

but Oden is a different man on the boards. Just a freak down there. Especially on offensive boards.

by TheTinfoil on Oct 14, 2009 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, it seems like he'll be able to keep or improve upon his per minute rebounding numbers

If he can stay on the court, he’s got a shot to be right up there with the rebounding leaders.

by jksnake99 on Oct 14, 2009 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, and his put backs looked slick

There was very little of the awkward post up garbage from last year. He’ll get a ton of put back points.

by TheTinfoil on Oct 14, 2009 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There were some really strange line ups tonight...

For example:

Blake
Batum
Webster
Outlaw
Przybilla

I hope I never see that one again!

by rpresto2 on Oct 14, 2009 11:45 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That one has me gagging and I like most of the guys on that list individually...

Assuming you start your best five, it’s A WORM.

And I’m going to be the first one in the neighborhood to state the obvious: Bye bye Travis, Juwon plays 12 minutes behind LMA at PF because he is a PF and Travis is not…

Which gives you a bench of:

Blake, Rudy, Nic, Juwon, Pryzzy.

Hmmmm. Not as much pop as one would like.

Where is that guy we saw in Eurobasket, Mr. Batum???

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on Oct 14, 2009 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Travis looked completely out of it tonight.

Where is the dude that is looking to “Get paid, like out of this world”?

by rpresto2 on Oct 15, 2009 12:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Travis and Bayless for DJB and salary filler?

Also, I think Nate is resting Nic because of the Eurobasket experience. If Nic still looks lost ten games into the season, then it’s time to worry about him.

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worse than travis
-Ben.

by rockingharder on Oct 15, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If that was our starting line up...

instead of having RAMBO we would have a PWOBBlem.

by rpresto2 on Oct 15, 2009 12:27 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

…

My team went to the playoffs in my first year.

by pxilpooshr on Oct 15, 2009 12:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

took me a minute

but I finally get it. PWOBBlem. ha.

by chickenmelt on Oct 15, 2009 1:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Very good!

"Aneurysm".

When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie

by annthefan on Oct 15, 2009 1:24 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Observations from near courtside last night:

- Some of our guys have a ways to go, conditioning wise.
- Some odd situational lineups: Miller, Blake, Roy, LA, Oden?
- Rudy’s back spasms probably instigated said tinkering above.
- Channing Frye looked pretty aweful.
- Greg looked really, REALLY hungry to prove himself.
- Blake looks uncomfortable playing with mostly second unit guys.
- I can’t believe we won a championship in an arena which barely seats > 11k.

- Steve Nash is an amazing point guard. Some guy behind me said before the game, “Yeah, I donno about Nash. He’s a borderline hall of fame guy.” No he isn’t. That guy is going right to the hall of fame. One of the great pure passing point guards of the last 10-15 years. Not up there with Stockton but he’s pretty damn close.
- Barbosa had a beastly night.
- Our bench was outscored 48-16 by Phoenix’ bench. Not good.

Oh, and I got my picture taken with Mike Rice, Kevin Pritchard and Bill Schonely.

Regarding Hedo Türkoğlu:

Look at the bright side, Blazers fans -- you dodged a bullet. He peaked statistically two years ago. He's allegedly 30 but could be closer to 32 or 33 for all we know. (Do you trust Turkish birth certificates? And isn't it weird that he played four years of pro ball in Turkey in the 1990s?)

- Bill Simmons of ESPN.com

by halo_on on Oct 15, 2009 12:43 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Awesome.

My team went to the playoffs in my first year.

by pxilpooshr on Oct 15, 2009 12:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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