Sonicsgate... heartbreaking

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The only good thing about this video is that Paul Allen was one of only two NBA owners to vote against the team leaving Seattle

by el_flaco on Oct 13, 2009 1:12 AM PDT reply actions

it's cause he and mark cuban are the only two with enough cajones to stand up against stern.

and probably for economic reasons as well…

"There are a few teams you have to watch out for in the fourth quarter."
"Yeah, but Portland definitely is not one of them."

-New Orleans Hornets broadcasters at the end of the third quarter with the Hornets leading 74-59. Portland later ends up winning 97-89.

"They don't mind him shooting that shot at all. Rudy Fernandez is not that great of a 3pt shooter."

-New Orleans Hornets broadcasters right after a Rudy Fernandez missed 3pter. Rudy Fernandez finished the game with three 3pters on six attempts.

by Tofu Anonymous on Oct 13, 2009 5:36 AM PDT up reply actions

What you mean is

it’s cause Mark Cuban is a loudmouth who does not agree with anybody on anything, and Paul Allen owns a team in that city. If not, they’d probably be just as apathetic as any other NBA owners.

by Justneedmysports on Oct 13, 2009 7:36 AM PDT up reply actions

Do you think Paul Allen voted no just so Seahawks fans wouldn’t boo him? Possibly. Of all the owners (besides the OKC rascals) he was most likely to profit from the Sonics leaving. Fewer pro sports teams in Seattle concentrate fan dollars towards football and those other guys that run around bases and whatnot. Fewer basketball teams in the NW creates more Blazer fans in the region.

I still think Schultz unfairly escapes blame instead heaped on Bennett et al.

I say that without having watched the film. Maybe he gets skewered.

The cowards never started
The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers

by lukeyhere on Oct 13, 2009 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions

Schultz gets hit real hard in the film

Bennett is definitely portrayed as a bad guy, but at least the film-makers seem to respect his intelligence/manipulations on some level.

Schultz, on the other hand, is portrayed as a dunce who did not know what he was doing with an NBA franchise, as well as a traitor. I would say that he actually comes out looking the worst to a person who was only a casual observer of the Sonics downfall at the time, because I already knew Bennett was a villain, but I didn’t know the extent of Schultz’s failure.

by el_flaco on Oct 13, 2009 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions

It had nothing to do with cojones.

For Mark Cuban, he voted no for economic reasons.

For Paull Alen, he voted no for public relation reasons.

Well, that’s that.

Stupid people have stupid ideas.

by AK1984 on Oct 13, 2009 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions

Man, I just butchered Paul Allen's name.

Nevertheless, his “no” vote had absolutely nothing to do with bollocks. Likewise, the owners who voted “yes” weren’t necessarily spineless; instead, they did what was in their best interest, which I’m in no place to criticize as an equally selfish individual.

When it’s all said and done, Howard Schultz definitely deserves most of the blame. Everyone else had a rational reason for their actions, while Schultz’s actions were that of an incomptent dolt and two-timing sellout who committed treason of the highest order in my book.

Stupid people have stupid ideas.

by AK1984 on Oct 13, 2009 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions

And I’m really surprised it is a 28-2 team vote. I would think that it would be 27-2. Why should Seattle/OC get a say in their own issue?

by Justneedmysports on Oct 13, 2009 7:40 AM PDT up reply actions

It just makes me hate the OKC Thunder

even more. First Durant, now this. I’m sure there’s a good witch doctor in Seattle who has put a curse on the team from ever winnning a championship as long as they reside in OKC.

by JasonT on Oct 13, 2009 8:25 AM PDT reply actions

Paul Allen was a regular at Sonics games before he bought the Trailblazers

by Jacksonville on Oct 13, 2009 8:45 AM PDT reply actions

I miss our rivals

And I hope some city, such as say Memphis, loses its team to them and right soon.

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Oct 13, 2009 9:36 AM PDT reply actions

The problem is that OKC owns the Sonics' banners, retired jerseys, etc.

The Thunder say that Sonics history is “their” history. So even if Seattle got a new team, would it be the Sonics? Maybe that doesn’t matter, but I think it does — especially since the initial fanbase of any new team would be formed by people who had been dedicated to the Sonics for years.

by el_flaco on Oct 13, 2009 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions

Yes it would

Its like the deal the NFL made with the Cleveland Browns when they moved to Baltimore. Although it is the same franchise, the Ravens have their own records and the expansion Browns inherited the old records from the former team.

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Oct 13, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions

I forget the details now

But basically there’s an agreement where if Seattle gets a new NBA team within a set amount of time, they get to keep the colors, name, banners and all that.

by ericande on Oct 13, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions

oh, ok. That's good then.

Let’s just hope any move to bring a team to Seattle wouldn’t be as much of a fiasco as the one that took its team away.

by el_flaco on Oct 13, 2009 11:33 AM PDT reply actions

Well done videos

I watched them both yesterday, and it was really captivating. Quite a bit I didn’t know, great interviews… A good watch, but a sad watch.

Grew up in Eastern Washington and was a Downtown Freddie Brown fan!

by Knobby on Oct 13, 2009 12:08 PM PDT reply actions

It's very sad

Hopefully Seattle gets another teamed and they maintain the SuperSonics name.

by GreatOdensRaven on Oct 13, 2009 12:22 PM PDT reply actions

I didn't know that Desomond Mason lives in Portland...

does anybody know why?

Red Hot and Rolling

by BlazerFan88 on Oct 13, 2009 4:22 PM PDT reply actions

*Desmond

Red Hot and Rolling

by BlazerFan88 on Oct 13, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions

I think his wife is from here.

by Corvid on Oct 14, 2009 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions

he owns some business in downtown or at least rents an area in a building that my friend owns… there might be another reason that he lives here.. friends family… or he might just like Portland!
hes really nice.. ive met him a few times

by je'mapple on Oct 13, 2009 4:30 PM PDT reply actions