Here We Go

At least we can stop talking about it now.

by pklym on Jan 9, 2009 10:45 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

At least

until the NBA’s ruling on the inevitable appeal. The real issue in my mind is how this influences KP’s use of RLEC

Bayless has been testing the fences for weaknesses

by blazeraddict on Jan 9, 2009 10:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

First of all, at least 62% of the people weren’t listening when we discussed the cap ramifications for the summer and they’re going to start speculating and/or parroting a ton of misleading stuff about our financial situation. Then there will be small-guy advocates who roast the team. There will be team advocates who roast Miles. There will be people in the middle saying this isn’t really about Miles. There will be affronted people who say this is all about greed, pure and simple. Business people will speculate on the proper course of action. Fan-folk will complain when this doesn’t disappear. Lawyer-types will speculate on and follow the inevitable litigation that follows. Stern-haters will pin this all on him. League rulekeepers will offer 9200 suggestions to modify the rules. Other teams’ trolls will come over and roast the Blazers, invoking the White-Collar Jailblazers moniker.

It’s going to be joy around here for the next six months.

—Dave

by Dave on Jan 9, 2009 10:49 PM PST up reply actions 6 recs

I need to type faster.

by Timmay! on Jan 9, 2009 10:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Who says Chris Wallace is dumb?

We play the Grizzlies four times in the next three months. I can’t WAIT to see Darius take the floor at the Rose Garden!

by MiledAnimal on Jan 9, 2009 10:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Oh man. I hadn't thought about that.

I almost want to come back to town for that.

by Timmay! on Jan 9, 2009 11:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Assuming he's even a Grizz when we play them

10 day contract… 2 games needed out of 3.

Do they have the balls to hit the minimum and then send Miles packing?

"I never scored more than 38, even in Little League." ~ Roy, 52 pts

by shralpster on Jan 9, 2009 11:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Nope

If he gets those two games during this contract, they sign him to another 10 day-er just to strengthen their defense case, I would bet.

If he doesn’t get those two games, they may not re-sign him, and let someone else do it. This is a “Cover Your Backside” move, possibly.

Think about this. If someone else picks him up for two games, the Griz are co-defendants, right?

But if the Griz sign him for ten days and only play him in one of these games, then if someone else signs him and plays him the 10th game, they can say, “Well, we could have played him the tenth game and didn’t. So obviously, WE weren’t trying to game the system.”

Seems pretty likely he won’t hit only 10 with the Griz. They will likely play him one more or at least 3 more.

If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President

by jscot on Jan 10, 2009 12:58 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Memphis ain't in this alone...others like less FA comp

DM will be on SOMEONES roster all year, mark my words . . .spend thousands to save millions…

"The Portland Trail Blazers are aware that certain teams may be contemplating signing Darius Miles to a contract for the purpose of adversely impacting the Portland Trail Blazers Salary Cap and tax positions....."

by LetsBlaze on Jan 10, 2009 9:12 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

It was O'Rourke

"The Portland Trail Blazers are aware that certain teams may be contemplating signing Darius Miles to a contract for the purpose of adversely impacting the Portland Trail Blazers Salary Cap and tax positions....."

by LetsBlaze on Jan 10, 2009 9:11 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

"White-Collar Jailblazers."

That is funny. I’m going to ask my business law professor what he thinks about the whole thing… and then I’m going to drop the class.

Is it possible to go to school during basketball season?

by Nick Van Excellent on Jan 9, 2009 11:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

this whole thing is beyond insane

when will someone invent a troll-proof shield for web sites?

and did anyone else notice that denver managed to lose after leading detroit the whole game?

by postup on Jan 9, 2009 11:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Wait a minute: are you not DAVE, OVERLORD OF BLAZERSEDGE???

Why don’t you just ban all mention of Darius Miles? Most of us wouldn’t mind a bit. Certainly I wouldn’t object.

Pardon my ignorance of all things financial, but in the end isn’t this mainly about Paul Allen’s pocketbook? Can’t he take a hit on Miles’ contract—if that should happen—and still go get a top free agent as long as he’s willing to take the luxury tax hit? Isn’t he a multi-billionaire who’s passionate about the Blazers? So won’t the team probably end up looking pretty much the same regardless of how this Miles thing ultimately pans out?

I really AM blissfully ignorant of the cap, luxury tax, etc., so pardon me if this is dumb. But even if I’m wrong and Allen’s deep pockets don’t make this whole controversy moot for the rank & file Blazer fan: I STILL don’t care that much. This present team, given a few tweaks and a couple more years to mature, should soon be a contender even if no big money free agent comes aboard in ‘09-’10. How many super-talented players does one team NEED?

Good God, man! There’s Brandon Roy—the second coming of Dwayne Wade—leading the way with his scoring and all-round brilliance. There’s LaMarcus Aldridge—the second coming of Rasheed Wallace (minus the craziness)—scoring, rebounding, blocking shots, and running like a gazelle. Then there’s Greg Oden—likely the second coming of Nate “The Great” Thurmond—already beginning to dominate the paint. Then you’ve got terrific young role players in Rudy, Trout, Batum, Bayless, & Martell. Add a “Maxsap,” shake & stir, and you’ve got a contender for the next decade and beyond. What fun to watch them all develop and come together.

So go ahead, Lord Dave: banish all this Darius Miles talk. You KNOW you want to. Who’s going to stop you? B.E. is your playpen; we’re just visiting it.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Jan 10, 2009 12:30 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs

I'm in favor

ban Miles talk. Forever.

"...we have so many experts who think that you have to play defense, you have to rebound, you have to be a possession coach, you have to execute. I just laugh. Explosive offense is not as intimidating as dominant defense. But it is scary when you don't know how to stop someone." - George Karl, Nuggets coach

by jamon51 on Jan 10, 2009 1:54 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

By the way...

To pick up a “Maxsap” (i.e, a Millsap / Maxiell type), you needn’t pay a zillion bucks to a free agent. Name a Maxsap, any Maxsap, and I’ll tell you when he was drafted: in the second round. With KP’s smarts, I’m sure he can come up with a talented banger off the bench. They don’t grow on trees, but you needn’t break the bank—or Paul Allen’s wallet—to land one.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Jan 10, 2009 3:24 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

The same KP who drafted Josh McRoberts over Marc Gasol?

by Norsktroll on Jan 10, 2009 3:25 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

In KPs defense

Marc was a late bloomer. My understanding was he always had the skills/footwork, but his conditioning was horrible. Still, he would be a nice asset right now.

Bayless has been testing the fences for weaknesses

by blazeraddict on Jan 10, 2009 8:48 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

KP should hire me.

Evolution of Rudy was in his normal line of progress looking at years before. Marc´s one is really surprising. If he continue like this could be even better than his brother. He´s fisically stronger than Pau and, as Rudy and Ricky, a very intelligent player.

by amlmart1 on Thu Jan 10, 2008 at 10:39:25 AM

Sergio + Rudy = 16
Sergio + Bayless = 16
Batum 8+8=16

by amlmart1 on Jan 10, 2009 10:37 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

And...

About picks and trades and Spaniards: You won´t find in ACB, Spanish top competition, the number and quality of young players you find in the NCAA, but a lot of matured and experienced players, the kind of people that can be really difficult to compete for a young player, and that tells something about three consistent young guys: Marc Gasol (22 years old, 7’1", picked by LA, brother of Pau, and I think he is in the way to be a new Sabonis), Rudy Fernandez (you know him well) and Ricky Rubio(17 years old , 21/10/1990, PG and now seventh player with better stats in ACB). These guys play better this year than the last, higher and higher getting older. They are not the kind of player who goes up some weeks and some down. But the best will be Ricky by far. He gets the responsibility of his team when needed as he´d be the most veteran (29 points today in a European match against a Turkish team, Rudy out injured), playing with people that could be his father. I have never seen someone 17 age year old at that level in Europe. I know you have heard about him: his actual performance isn´t something new. If Portland have a little opportunity to pick him must do it. And probably could bring him to the NBA in 2011 ~~even 2010~~ ready to play. How many teams can promise to Ricky a great young team, even with one or two friends there, a team that may pick in first round a PG with two or three years to come?.
Please forgive my poor english (I TRY TO IMPROVE READING YOUR POSTS), thanks for all I´m learning from you and GREAT GO BLAZERS.

by amlmart1 on Jan 9, 2008 12:12 AM CET

Sergio + Rudy = 16
Sergio + Bayless = 16
Batum 8+8=16

by amlmart1 on Jan 10, 2009 10:40 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I like how you think

I completely agree on Rubio. Unfortunately, I can see no way Portland will be in position to land him, short of gutting the team in the process. Marc has really taken his game up, I remember reading some stuff on him when he was living/playing HS ball in Memphis while Pau was there and it sounded like he wasn’t going to be a force

Bayless has been testing the fences for weaknesses

by blazeraddict on Jan 10, 2009 11:09 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

buzzkill

"The Portland Trail Blazers are aware that certain teams may be contemplating signing Darius Miles to a contract for the purpose of adversely impacting the Portland Trail Blazers Salary Cap and tax positions....."

by LetsBlaze on Jan 10, 2009 9:14 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Why we want the more capspace, and why being rich ain't enough

Now keep in mind, I am not an expert on these matters. Storyteller would be much better equipped to answer it, both in actual knowledge of the current events and the inner workings of the CBA. But, I’ll take a stab at it and perhaps it’ll work since I ain’t a cap expert.

BASICALLY, cap space enables us to get someone for money alone. If we are not below the salary cap, we are only allowed to use the Mid-Level Exception (MLE) to add a free agent, plus a few other exceptions— but those are for only a few million bucks total, and the MLE is for about 5 to 7 million a year (about Joel Przybilla money). You can add a good role player that way, maybe a star willing to play for cheap to win a championship, but not much else.

If you have cap space (say, 15 million) you can add a player of a higher caliber (or a few role players, not just one) and not have to trade anything or match salaries or anything like that. If you are over the salary cap, you can only sign players you already have to contracts that go over the cap— not free agents from other teams (being able to sign a player even though you are over the cap is called having that player’s “Bird Rights”)

But it isn’t only about signing a impact free agent— the cap space gives you flexibility to make a big trade as well. No matter how much money Paul Allen has, we still have to match salaries in a trade UNLESS you have room under the cap— whatever room you have under the cap, you can use to help match salaries. So if you got 15 million in space, you can, say, trade a 2nd round draft pick and get someone who makes up to 15 million bucks in return— and that’s the whole trade. If we’re only 7 million under the cap, we have to send out 8 million in salaries to make it match (a Blake and an Outlaw, in other words).

We’ll still be under the cap if we really WANT to be under the cap if Miles goes back on our cap, we just lose a little flexibility and might have to pay more of a price to get the guy we want, and instead of adding him for “free” (just cap space and a roster spot) we might have to drop players we like or trade them in return. We would have to NOT pick up the team options on a few of our guys contracts… such as Blake or Outlaw.

Either way, we can get the person we really want, it just becomes a question of whether the guy is worth losing a Steve Blake over. That will depend on who we target, of course.

Paul Allen IS the richest owner, but that comes more in handy when keeping your own players. Let’s say LMA, Bayless, Batum, Rudy, all become allstar caliber players (not saying they WILL, I am just giving an example). They’d each want over 10 million bucks each, which would take up about 2/3rds of our salary cap, and we haven’t even got to Roy and Oden (or Joel, or Blake, or Martell, or Trout, etc). Most owners simply couldn’t afford that (and maybe it’d be too much for Paul Allen even), and some of those players would have to be moved just to keep the payroll down (like what with PHX did with Joe Johnson and draft picks).

Paul Allen is one of the few owners who can afford to keep the talent together (assuming the talent WANTS to stay together).

KP has hinted that they have been targetting someone for a while. The Miles situation, no matter the outcome, won’t prevent us from getting him— the “price” will just be higher, and we’ll have to sacrifice some guys we like.

It’s all a lot EASIER if Miles’ money doesn’t go on the cap, but back when we made the Z-Bo deal to get some potential cap space in ‘09, we had assumed Miles would be on our cap now and if that’s the case they have already planned for it (medical retirement was something some wondered about but you can’t plan for). Being under the cap would be a rarity for us, and this next offseason would be the last time we are under it for many a moon, because soon Roy and LMA will need to be re-signed. It’s our cap window.

It is not the end of the world, but PA’s riches won’t solve everything.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Jan 10, 2009 10:28 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Well put.

Like someone said on the radio yesterday (maybe it was Canzano?) Allen is willing to pay luxury tax if this team is a team capable of going deep in the playoffs. But hes not going to just throw away millions on a team that gets knocked out of the first round. So I would think if we can secure a player to take us to the next level so to speak, Paul is willing to pay the price. Paul loves the blazers probably more than anything else he has money invested in, but he is a smart business man. If he sees a window opening that can possibly bring this team to the finals, I don’t think there is a limit on what he will spend to do it, but he isn’t going to spend money, just to spend money.

by tmundal on Jan 10, 2009 10:36 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

The problem

with the all-$15-million-for-good-player trade is that you have to find someone on the other end to give you that player. That’s true to a lesser extent with role players as well, but I can see scenarios where somebody’s role player just doesn’t fit and you get him for space. Even then, though, GM’s are going to want talent most of the time. Anyway, basically if you’re going to get someone for just cap space and their salary is in the tens of millions it means that they’re washed up, overpaid, or an attitude problem.

—Dave

by Dave on Jan 10, 2009 11:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

In other words, Dave, cap space is overrated?

At least as far as we’re concerned?

by MiledAnimal on Jan 10, 2009 11:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I'd say

Cap space and FREE AGENCY is very overrated, and I’ve always said that so it ain’t a rationalization in case we don’t get the Miles space ;-) <——————————WINK

You always overpay, for overlong, and it rarely works out how ya want it. Baron in LA and Brand in Philly and Maggette in the Bay are recent examples.

BUT, the flexibility it gives you for trades, is what we’d likely be after. Let’s say someone wanted Outlaw, and our 1st round pick, and wanted to give us Gerald Wallace to save money, with the cap space we can absorb the difference between Outlaw’s and Wallace’s salary. THAT is where cap space is super nice.

Dave is right, you ain’t gonna get a great 15 million dollar player for free that you’d actually want. In any trade, no matter what we’d like be trading someone to get who we want, in addition to cap space.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Jan 10, 2009 6:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

No, not at all!

Mortimer has it exactly right. Cap space won’t get us a superstar or even great free agent off of the open market because there aren’t any coming available this summer that we’d want. Cap space alone won’t get us a star in trade either or even a really good role player.

HOWEVER cap space is critically important because it lets us facilitate all kinds of trades that we couldn’t otherwise make. Let’s pretend, for instance, that we wanted Stephon Marbury and his $20 million contract. (I know…gross. Bear with me.) We literally could not do that deal next summer without cap space to make up the difference. Our players are so young and so inexpensive that we’d have to trade six of our top ten guys just to make the salaries balance. You’re not going to trade six Blazers for anyone right now. However with the cap space those salaries become approachable. Even for mid-level salaries we’d have to package a couple players at least, maybe more, to make any deal work. Cap space allows us to trade ONE young guy (or ONE young guy and a throw-in) for a good player instead of having to trade more. Cap space also allows us to trade players that are relatively equal but don’t quite fit together in the salary matching rules. We can pretty much ignore the salary matching rules altogether. Without that flexibility it’s going to be much harder for the Blazers to make trades without giving up a ton.

My only argument about the Miles thing is, he really only cuts our space from $18 million to $9 million provided we don’t mess with cap holds. And for the purposes of making a trade work $9 million is about as good as $18 million. As Morty and I said, nobody is going to take $18 million in cap space and nothing else for a really good player. They’re going to want talent in return and $9 million should be enough to bridge the gap. We wouldn’t use all $18 million doing that anyway.

Of COURSE we’d rather have the full $18 million. Who wouldn’t? But it’s not a strict necessity if the right deal comes along. It was a luxury. Like the rest of America, the Blazers will simply have to balance the budget a little more carefully than they had planned to.

—Dave

by Dave on Jan 10, 2009 11:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I can't imagine anyone we'd WANT who would be that spendy

So yeah, not having that much cap space won’t likely limit us. I agree with your analysis from the other day where the Miles thing won’t really hurt us if we are targetting someone specifically, since we still have PLENTY of flexibility to get that person one way or another.

I’ve always thought whoever we get as a final piece will either be a star role player type, and most likely in a trade. I can’t think of anyone we really want that is worth buckoo cap space.

Of course, the more the merrier, because you never know.

I don’t think we’ll likely get anyone better than Roy, and I don’t want someone who THINKS they are better than Roy. I want more experience and better defense, both which will come in time I think (well, at least the experience thing. No cap space can give us that, and it’s what we need most).

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Jan 10, 2009 6:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

You think this'll make us stop talking about it? :)

We still have the two games Darius plays in.

Then the games after that where he plays, where we debate whether he’s being played for merit, or to make sure it doesn’t look bad on memphis. (This could even turn into a season-long contract)

Then we will talk about the appeal.

Then we will talk about the results of the appeal.

And all along the way, we’ll talk about the raw deal we’re getting from the press (whether we are or not)

Good luck getting away from this topic!

by Timmay! on Jan 9, 2009 10:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

i don't know. i've already stopped talking about it. or thinking about it. i've moved on.

ignacio

by ignacio on Jan 10, 2009 12:10 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Evidenced by your post here

well played

Homer: "Yikes....a bear is eating my father!!"
Selma: "I'm Selma"
Homer: "A talking bear is eating my father!!"

by 92wastheyear on Jan 10, 2009 2:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Ultimately, it's fun to talk about, but who gives a rip

The Grizz didn’t come in and find a way to steal LMA or Greg Oden or B-Roy. We still have a nasty Big 3 and lots of other goodies.

Grandma Pritchard made a yummylicious apple pie and the neighbor kid snuck in and stole one piece, not the whole thing.

Let ’em have their one piece, while we enjoy the rest.

If you think I'm insulting you, I'm insulted that you'd even think that I would think of insulting you.

by prezofdeath on Jan 9, 2009 10:49 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Actually it's more like

the neighbor came over and promised whip cream with the pie and we saw him walking across the street with it, but then he got run over by the mailman.

—Dave

by Dave on Jan 9, 2009 10:51 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs

They say a good friend knows how to read between the lines...

and I consider myself a good friend of Dave, and if I’m hearing him right, he’s saying we should hire Karl Malone to take out some people.

Brilliant!

If you think I'm insulting you, I'm insulted that you'd even think that I would think of insulting you.

by prezofdeath on Jan 9, 2009 10:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

then again, maybe this is a better representation of how good friends relate

If you think I'm insulting you, I'm insulted that you'd even think that I would think of insulting you.

by prezofdeath on Jan 9, 2009 10:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

better

http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/

"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"

by Magnum on Jan 10, 2009 12:15 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Exactly. Reflects my mood much better

by Norsktroll on Jan 10, 2009 1:21 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

and in case anyone took me seriously

i was kidding about taking people out.

for my thoughts on that matter, see my post down below (click here to auto-scroll down there).

If you think I'm insulting you, I'm insulted that you'd even think that I would think of insulting you.

by prezofdeath on Jan 10, 2009 12:02 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

or open a new tab.

If you think I'm insulting you, I'm insulted that you'd even think that I would think of insulting you.

by prezofdeath on Jan 10, 2009 12:03 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

It just goes to show that the middle school mentality never really leaves you...

Chris Wallace is just puffing up his chest to show he’s not scared. Whatever. It doesn’t change the fact that he’s a terrible GM and the Blazers future remains bright. Let’s talk about something else now.

"I'd rather be thin than famous."

by Artie Fufkin on Jan 9, 2009 10:56 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

In the back of my mind I keep thinking that

Chris Wallace is somehow doing this just to get to KP and for once outwit our guy, because around the league KP is considered one of the best GMs and CW is considered one of the worst.

by trailblazersfan on Jan 9, 2009 10:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

And he continues to live up to that reputation

"I'd rather be thin than famous."

by Artie Fufkin on Jan 9, 2009 11:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

He hasn't been bad lately.

Big slow white guy for a slightly smaller Brandon Roy seems like a good deal.

by Nick Van Excellent on Jan 9, 2009 11:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Get out of here with your logic!

"I'd rather be thin than famous."

by Artie Fufkin on Jan 9, 2009 11:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

And his Gasol move

was never as bad as some people thought, and is looking better all the time.

If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President

by jscot on Jan 10, 2009 1:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

sweet

classic case of “you made your bed, you you have to lie in it”…

myspace.com/marktwainindians

by mark twain on Jan 9, 2009 11:03 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Chris Wallace really, really, really, really loves the L*kers.

MLB2PDX!!! (someday...)

by The Cactus Leaguer on Jan 9, 2009 11:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Wallace/McHale '12???

"I'd rather be thin than famous."

by Artie Fufkin on Jan 9, 2009 11:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

at least those guys probably know that Africa is a continent not a country

by trailblazersfan on Jan 9, 2009 11:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

And probably haven't plagiarized someone recently

"...we have so many experts who think that you have to play defense, you have to rebound, you have to be a possession coach, you have to execute. I just laugh. Explosive offense is not as intimidating as dominant defense. But it is scary when you don't know how to stop someone." - George Karl, Nuggets coach

by jamon51 on Jan 10, 2009 2:08 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I thought the election was over?

"I'd rather be thin than famous."

by Artie Fufkin on Jan 10, 2009 10:10 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Ok... I've got a few guys

to sign to 10-day contracts when we face the Grizz next:

Xavier McDaniels

Charles Oakley or ’Zo

Ok, ok… I kid, but seriously… If they play him, they better PLAY him. I think the Blazers have a good case against the Grizz if it is apparently they’re only using Miles just enough to fleece the Blazers out of cap space and money. Right now in this situation, I feel more like Jeff Van Gundy must have felt holding on to ’Zo’s leg… It is probably going to get worse before it gets better. At least we have a good team now…

This whole situation makes me mad, because it doesn’t really seem fair – particularly to us or to Darius – don’t feel too much for the Grizz unless they actually end up extensively using Darius (which I highly doubt they will). Also, I have my suspicions that Miles health is still a big concern, and that the doctors were probably right to try to keep him from playing.

Chris Dudley for three!

by wilbjammin on Jan 9, 2009 11:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

I think I've figured out Chris Wallace's plan (is this the same Chris Wallace from Fox New btw?? that guy is a hard worker!)

Here it goes:

1. Sign Darius Miles to the 10 day contracts
2. Play him to screw over the Blazers, get the 266k, lose more games in order to get more lottery ping pong balls, and eliminate a competitor from the free agent market
3. Play him A LOT so the Blazers’ possible lawsuit would have no merit

and

4. By playing him a lot hope that his knee CAN’T hold up to the stress of playing a lot of NBA minutes, which will hopefully lead to another injury then promptly cut Darius

CW is a diabolical genius!

by trailblazersfan on Jan 9, 2009 11:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Duh

You tell someone not to do this, someone was going to do it. Miller should have used the reverse and said Darius would be a huge asset to the Grizz and wished him all the best in his surely long, all-star caliber NBA career.

Paul Allen has deep pockets, I’m sure he knows people that might see Darius have an unfortunate “accident”

Life is hilarious.

by SolGoode on Jan 9, 2009 11:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

either way, someone was bound to buy Darius

whether or not Larry Miller put out the warning/threat

now let the fireworks begin, and we’ll see if the PTB were bluffing or if they really will go beh nah nehs. Or if they’ll wait until they see how much Darius actually plays.

If you think I'm insulting you, I'm insulted that you'd even think that I would think of insulting you.

by prezofdeath on Jan 9, 2009 11:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

At least we can say

“don’t say I didn’t warn you”

Chris Dudley for three!

by wilbjammin on Jan 9, 2009 11:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

no way we sue now.

that part is done with this signing.

Blazers Edge.com

by Ben. on Jan 9, 2009 11:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Not too sure

If he plays only garbage time in two more games, isn’t re-signed, and can’t get on with anyone else….

If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President

by jscot on Jan 10, 2009 1:03 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

it won’t happen.

Blazers Edge.com

by Ben. on Jan 10, 2009 10:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I just got an e-mail from Larry Miller

It said watching non-comcast feeds to blazer games are illegal and he’ll sue me if I do it again. I’m going to do it again just to spite him.

by neutroticblazerfan on Jan 9, 2009 11:44 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

I still don't understand why no one wants to use someone like Randolph

to injure a star player like Mayo if Memphis decides to screw us. There wouldn’t be any way for the league to prove it, so why not try?

by BR7formvp on Jan 9, 2009 11:51 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

lol hopefully that was a joke

hopefully? please? say it was? hopefully you were jus’ being silly, so if so, ignore this:

THIS AIN’T THE MAFIA! These are real human beings. You don’t jus’ go ’round bumping people off!

haha I mean….Even IF the Grizzlies planned this all out to completely and utterly screw us out of money and capspace, in no way does it warrant hurting a human being—OJ Mayo is a person. He, and every other member of the Grizzlies organization (and Darius Miles and his agent for that matter), deserve to be treated as such.

If you think I'm insulting you, I'm insulted that you'd even think that I would think of insulting you.

by prezofdeath on Jan 10, 2009 12:00 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Listen - - the "player like Randolph.."stuff

I know you mean someone dispensible to the teams short term plans….BUT

It starts to look like to others reading our stuff that Randolph might be into playing that way

HE IS NOT…

"The Portland Trail Blazers are aware that certain teams may be contemplating signing Darius Miles to a contract for the purpose of adversely impacting the Portland Trail Blazers Salary Cap and tax positions....."

by LetsBlaze on Jan 10, 2009 9:18 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I really like this post

because it really crystalizes in my mind what this is about. The Griz are trying to screw with the Blazers…but they will probably get away with it because it can’t be proven. We could do what BR7 suggested …but won’t because it is underhanded and wrong…even though it too can’t be proven

Homer: "Yikes....a bear is eating my father!!"
Selma: "I'm Selma"
Homer: "A talking bear is eating my father!!"

by 92wastheyear on Jan 10, 2009 2:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

maybe ...

by BR7formvp on Jan 10, 2009 12:00 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

wow

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...

by BlazerFan1 on Jan 10, 2009 12:04 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

What happened to the classy NBA executives

like Rick MaHorn?

Open Letter to Celtics Blog:

Your record since Christ's birthday is 2 wins and 7 LOSSES. This has to do with the Curse of the Banned Bloggers, when your henchmen banned a dozen BlazersEdge regulars for a couple of frivolous comments. Hey Todo... I mean Jeff Clark: We're not in 1939 Germany any more. Reinstate us or the curse will continue. You shouldn't rule a blog with an iron first like that--because karma and payback is a powerful thing.

by Bust a Bucket on Jan 10, 2009 12:05 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

rick roll'd twice in one night?

uggggh huh huh (crying)

If you think I'm insulting you, I'm insulted that you'd even think that I would think of insulting you.

by prezofdeath on Jan 10, 2009 12:06 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I thought you were going to post this vid

OH NO THAT WAS RICK MAHORN!

by trailblazersfan on Jan 10, 2009 12:08 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I meant to post

by trailblazersfan on Jan 10, 2009 12:08 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cwc6Sdlhp9A

by trailblazersfan on Jan 10, 2009 12:08 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

lol same one i did

except i like yours a little better.

If you think I'm insulting you, I'm insulted that you'd even think that I would think of insulting you.

by prezofdeath on Jan 10, 2009 12:10 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

speaking of rick marhorn though

you have to watch the classic prank he and Barkley pull on Manute Bol back in the day.

If you think I'm insulting you, I'm insulted that you'd even think that I would think of insulting you.

by prezofdeath on Jan 10, 2009 12:08 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

you beat me to it

by trailblazersfan on Jan 10, 2009 12:09 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

yours has a little extra footage at the end.

You win

If you think I'm insulting you, I'm insulted that you'd even think that I would think of insulting you.

by prezofdeath on Jan 10, 2009 12:10 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI

"I saw him in the face"

by RoodiePhirnandizz on Jan 10, 2009 12:17 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I have to be an idiot

for clicking that link twice …

by BR7formvp on Jan 10, 2009 12:09 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Larry Miller is an idiot

Why hate on Chris Wallace or Miles? Neither have done anything wrong.

After reading that Miller interview I can only conclude the man is an idiot.

Basically he read that article from Yahoo or ESPN about how teams might just sign Miles just to kill our caproom, so he sent that e-mail. He had no problem with a team signing Miles if he thought they were acting in good faith and not just doing it to hurt us. The problem with that is how the hell would you ever prove that? It’s impossible. Can you prove in a court of law that Team A signed Miles just to hurt Portland with no interest in keeping Miles? No.

His mistake was thinking this distinction (between signing Miles with malicious intent as opposed to signing him to help their team) would be easily understood. It wasn’t. The media and especially blogs always skips that kind of detail and goes for the juciest headline which is “Blazers threaten to sue anybody who tries to sign Miles” which is wrong but they don’t care.

This has just embarassed this organization, gives this team an unwanted spotlight for trolls and also possibly hinders any deal making in the future because the other GM’s are pissed at us.

by neutroticblazerfan on Jan 10, 2009 12:10 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

my opinion is that this came from above larry.

Blazers Edge.com

by Ben. on Jan 10, 2009 12:12 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Tod Lie-wicky?

Open Letter to Celtics Blog:

Your record since Christ's birthday is 2 wins and 7 LOSSES. This has to do with the Curse of the Banned Bloggers, when your henchmen banned a dozen BlazersEdge regulars for a couple of frivolous comments. Hey Todo... I mean Jeff Clark: We're not in 1939 Germany any more. Reinstate us or the curse will continue. You shouldn't rule a blog with an iron first like that--because karma and payback is a powerful thing.

by Bust a Bucket on Jan 10, 2009 12:26 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Jerryd Bayless made this happen?

If you think I'm insulting you, I'm insulted that you'd even think that I would think of insulting you.

by prezofdeath on Jan 10, 2009 12:37 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs

REC

J-Bay is our freaking PG of the future… and I love it.

Rex and B-Roy will terrorize the Grizz for the next ten years! Yeah baby!

I’m so stoked right now. Thank you for reminding me of him.

By the way Prez, you have the best name on BE… I’m just curious, how did you come up with it?

Open Letter to Celtics Blog:

Your record since Christ's birthday is 2 wins and 7 LOSSES. This has to do with the Curse of the Banned Bloggers, when your henchmen banned a dozen BlazersEdge regulars for a couple of frivolous comments. Hey Todo... I mean Jeff Clark: We're not in 1939 Germany any more. Reinstate us or the curse will continue. You shouldn't rule a blog with an iron first like that--because karma and payback is a powerful thing.

by Bust a Bucket on Jan 10, 2009 12:48 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

link to explanation for mine, amidst a junque drawer full of ’em.

If you think I'm insulting you, I'm insulted that you'd even think that I would think of insulting you.

by prezofdeath on Jan 10, 2009 6:23 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

LOL

rec

If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President

by jscot on Jan 10, 2009 1:05 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

exactly what I said from the beginning...this is an OWNER thing...

its his cash these db’s are playin with

"The Portland Trail Blazers are aware that certain teams may be contemplating signing Darius Miles to a contract for the purpose of adversely impacting the Portland Trail Blazers Salary Cap and tax positions....."

by LetsBlaze on Jan 10, 2009 9:23 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Doubt it

First, I’d guess that the Blazers front office has more information than Yahoo. It might not be a lot more, but more. Second, I don’t think it is impossible to “prove in a court of law” intent – esp. considering that litigation often is done outside of a court of law, or if it reaches the civil suit level the court has a lower standard for restitution. Third, GMs will deal with us because we have assets that they want. They may not want to, but when push comes to shove – business is business. Finally, I don’t think this is a big story except in the short term. Since Miles isn’t on the team now, this has no affect on the chemistry of the team we have.

Chris Dudley for three!

by wilbjammin on Jan 10, 2009 12:17 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

do we know Larry did this?

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...

by BlazerFan1 on Jan 10, 2009 12:20 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

there’s no way larry “did this.”

trust me on that.

Blazers Edge.com

by Ben. on Jan 10, 2009 12:37 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

i know ben it's a rhetorical q

conveying that this letter wasn’t created by Larry alone.

Sophia

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...

by BlazerFan1 on Jan 10, 2009 1:11 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

He didn't send it out without the front office knowing. Miller, Pritch, Vulcan, and Allen

discused before sending it out.

by BR7formvp on Jan 10, 2009 12:16 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

it*

by BR7formvp on Jan 10, 2009 12:16 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Could Chris Wallace possibly use this as leverage...

…in negotiating a trade for Outlaw? Something like…

“So, we won’t play Miles over these next ten days if you agree to trade us Travis Outlaw for _. If not, say goodbye to your cap space.”

Would something like that be possible, or would that be totally illegal?

RUDY! RUDY! RUDY!

by sagebru5h on Jan 10, 2009 12:17 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Illegal

If they can prove it, that is extortion.

Chris Dudley for three!

by wilbjammin on Jan 10, 2009 12:18 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

thats illegal

it’s called “blackmail”

Sophia

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...

by BlazerFan1 on Jan 10, 2009 12:19 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

you should "blackmail"

Nicolas into going on a date.. huh?

Open Letter to Celtics Blog:

Your record since Christ's birthday is 2 wins and 7 LOSSES. This has to do with the Curse of the Banned Bloggers, when your henchmen banned a dozen BlazersEdge regulars for a couple of frivolous comments. Hey Todo... I mean Jeff Clark: We're not in 1939 Germany any more. Reinstate us or the curse will continue. You shouldn't rule a blog with an iron first like that--because karma and payback is a powerful thing.

by Bust a Bucket on Jan 10, 2009 12:27 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

that's what I just literally said

“huh”

Sophia

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...

by BlazerFan1 on Jan 10, 2009 12:35 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

lol, I don't get it

So, do you still have a crush on him or what?

Do you still sort of like him? Once your ankle recovers, would you like to post him up and try some dead ball moves on him?

Open Letter to Celtics Blog:

Your record since Christ's birthday is 2 wins and 7 LOSSES. This has to do with the Curse of the Banned Bloggers, when your henchmen banned a dozen BlazersEdge regulars for a couple of frivolous comments. Hey Todo... I mean Jeff Clark: We're not in 1939 Germany any more. Reinstate us or the curse will continue. You shouldn't rule a blog with an iron first like that--because karma and payback is a powerful thing.

by Bust a Bucket on Jan 10, 2009 12:37 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

i heart nic alot

but black mail is a bad way to start a relationship

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...

by BlazerFan1 on Jan 10, 2009 1:16 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

how much do you heart him?

have you done anything to track him down lately?

Open Letter to Celtics Blog:

Your record since Christ's birthday is 2 wins and 7 LOSSES. This has to do with the Curse of the Banned Bloggers, when your henchmen banned a dozen BlazersEdge regulars for a couple of frivolous comments. Hey Todo... I mean Jeff Clark: We're not in 1939 Germany any more. Reinstate us or the curse will continue. You shouldn't rule a blog with an iron first like that--because karma and payback is a powerful thing.

by Bust a Bucket on Jan 10, 2009 1:18 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

you know I would never SERIOUSLY

stalk him right? i mean he’s hot but it’s all fun and games.

Today at the doctor’s apt the medical assistant asked me if I was a blazer dancer… i said “hell no” he asked “why not” and i said “we don’t have enough time for me on my soap box :)” lol I’m not sure how to take that question though… am I a blazer dancer? i was thinking “WTF?” . we did talk about darius though…

Sophia

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...

by BlazerFan1 on Jan 10, 2009 1:21 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

nothing but a compliment

It means you’re hot enough to be a Blazers Dancer… and you’re doctor isn’t blind and can notice it.

It also means that Nic would be thrilled to hang out with you. Everyone and their grandmother knows you have a great personality… but the fact that you’re also hot is the clincher when it comes to Nic. You could marry that boy some day if you really think about it.

Open Letter to Celtics Blog:

Your record since Christ's birthday is 2 wins and 7 LOSSES. This has to do with the Curse of the Banned Bloggers, when your henchmen banned a dozen BlazersEdge regulars for a couple of frivolous comments. Hey Todo... I mean Jeff Clark: We're not in 1939 Germany any more. Reinstate us or the curse will continue. You shouldn't rule a blog with an iron first like that--because karma and payback is a powerful thing.

by Bust a Bucket on Jan 10, 2009 1:27 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

well now i feel dumb bc i am pretty sure i gave him a dirty look and i should have said thanks

But thank you for the compliment :) does ne 1 else notice that the site that runs blazersedge.com is SB Nation? Sb is my initials… :)

Sophia

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...

by BlazerFan1 on Jan 10, 2009 1:49 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Aha, so you pocket all the poor bloggers money

by Norsktroll on Jan 10, 2009 1:56 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

you probably deserve to have a Nation named after you

but nice use of “ne 1” … Maid tu Wreck would be proud of you!

Open Letter to Celtics Blog:

Your record since Christ's birthday is 2 wins and 7 LOSSES. This has to do with the Curse of the Banned Bloggers, when your henchmen banned a dozen BlazersEdge regulars for a couple of frivolous comments. Hey Todo... I mean Jeff Clark: We're not in 1939 Germany any more. Reinstate us or the curse will continue. You shouldn't rule a blog with an iron first like that--because karma and payback is a powerful thing.

by Bust a Bucket on Jan 10, 2009 2:09 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

im tryin 2 figure out who maid tu rek really is

Anyway thank you I do have “text type” abilities :)

Sophia

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...

by BlazerFan1 on Jan 10, 2009 2:18 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

May'd too wreck

is probably Nic’s agent… just a hunch.

Open Letter to Celtics Blog:

Your record since Christ's birthday is 2 wins and 7 LOSSES. This has to do with the Curse of the Banned Bloggers, when your henchmen banned a dozen BlazersEdge regulars for a couple of frivolous comments. Hey Todo... I mean Jeff Clark: We're not in 1939 Germany any more. Reinstate us or the curse will continue. You shouldn't rule a blog with an iron first like that--because karma and payback is a powerful thing.

by Bust a Bucket on Jan 10, 2009 2:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm pretty sure they wouldn't trade Outlaw even if it was legal

by BR7formvp on Jan 10, 2009 12:19 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

sadly

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...

by BlazerFan1 on Jan 10, 2009 12:20 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

We're talking about the Grizz here

Maybe Marc Gasol and OJ Mayo for Ike and a 2nd round pick?

Chris Dudley for three!

by wilbjammin on Jan 10, 2009 12:22 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

UPDATE: Kevin Pritchard has boarded a flight to Memphis to send his message more intimately

"I never scored more than 38, even in Little League." ~ Roy, 52 pts

by shralpster on Jan 10, 2009 12:21 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

seriously nothing's there?

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...

by BlazerFan1 on Jan 10, 2009 12:23 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe that's the message?

Chris Dudley for three!

by wilbjammin on Jan 10, 2009 12:23 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

don't you guys see the flaming bag of poo?

oh well, I tried.

"I never scored more than 38, even in Little League." ~ Roy, 52 pts

by shralpster on Jan 10, 2009 12:26 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

when KP gets to Memphis

will he go for a walk?

Open Letter to Celtics Blog:

Your record since Christ's birthday is 2 wins and 7 LOSSES. This has to do with the Curse of the Banned Bloggers, when your henchmen banned a dozen BlazersEdge regulars for a couple of frivolous comments. Hey Todo... I mean Jeff Clark: We're not in 1939 Germany any more. Reinstate us or the curse will continue. You shouldn't rule a blog with an iron first like that--because karma and payback is a powerful thing.

by Bust a Bucket on Jan 10, 2009 12:30 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Does this mean we don't get Conley?

by cisspshp on Jan 10, 2009 12:23 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Sure

The “Ithica Giant” – Mike Conley:

Chris Dudley for three!

by wilbjammin on Jan 10, 2009 12:25 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Oops

Ithaca*

Chris Dudley for three!

by wilbjammin on Jan 10, 2009 12:26 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

he's hot

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...

by BlazerFan1 on Jan 10, 2009 12:36 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

are we seeing the same picture?

If I’m not mistaken, that guy is the exact, complete, 100% opposite of Nic

If you think I'm insulting you, I'm insulted that you'd even think that I would think of insulting you.

by prezofdeath on Jan 10, 2009 12:41 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I dont <3 him, im not attracted to him

but he’s hot. I can tell you he is a handsome man for his day.

Sophia

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...

by BlazerFan1 on Jan 10, 2009 1:16 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

He's got a receding hairline and an awful mustache. That should be a no-go for anyone.

by AK1984 on Jan 10, 2009 1:20 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

handsome?

does that mean his is wearing tight pants and has a nice lil’ bulge?

Open Letter to Celtics Blog:

Your record since Christ's birthday is 2 wins and 7 LOSSES. This has to do with the Curse of the Banned Bloggers, when your henchmen banned a dozen BlazersEdge regulars for a couple of frivolous comments. Hey Todo... I mean Jeff Clark: We're not in 1939 Germany any more. Reinstate us or the curse will continue. You shouldn't rule a blog with an iron first like that--because karma and payback is a powerful thing.

by Bust a Bucket on Jan 10, 2009 1:28 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Is this hot?

Open Letter to Celtics Blog:

Your record since Christ's birthday is 2 wins and 7 LOSSES. This has to do with the Curse of the Banned Bloggers, when your henchmen banned a dozen BlazersEdge regulars for a couple of frivolous comments. Hey Todo... I mean Jeff Clark: We're not in 1939 Germany any more. Reinstate us or the curse will continue. You shouldn't rule a blog with an iron first like that--because karma and payback is a powerful thing.

by Bust a Bucket on Jan 10, 2009 12:41 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

depends

Is he going to beat up the fish after he catches it? He’s a judo master, if I’m not mistaken. Those KGB guys make weird fisherman. Which I can’t relate to basketball, so I’m just going to randomly connect to Andrei Kirilenko.

Chris Dudley for three!

by wilbjammin on Jan 10, 2009 12:53 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

this guy is out of shape

the other one is solid

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...

by BlazerFan1 on Jan 10, 2009 1:17 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

putin, no?

by BR7formvp on Jan 10, 2009 1:06 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Hate to say "I told you so" ;-)

You can doubt it all you want
People here have been tearing their hair out over Darius for months. It’s foolish. Darius Miles will never play in the NBA again. Write it down. And when I’m right, I expect you all to come back and say so.

Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Jan 6, 2009 9:34 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

by Norsktroll on Jan 10, 2009 1:07 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

lol

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...

by BlazerFan1 on Jan 10, 2009 1:18 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

ouch

If you think I'm insulting you, I'm insulted that you'd even think that I would think of insulting you.

by prezofdeath on Jan 10, 2009 6:32 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Best trade ever?

Travis and Sergio for Mike Conley and Darius ;-)

by Norsktroll on Jan 10, 2009 1:30 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

It would raise our BBIQ average, I guess

Open Letter to Celtics Blog:

Your record since Christ's birthday is 2 wins and 7 LOSSES. This has to do with the Curse of the Banned Bloggers, when your henchmen banned a dozen BlazersEdge regulars for a couple of frivolous comments. Hey Todo... I mean Jeff Clark: We're not in 1939 Germany any more. Reinstate us or the curse will continue. You shouldn't rule a blog with an iron first like that--because karma and payback is a powerful thing.

by Bust a Bucket on Jan 10, 2009 1:31 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

don't quote me on this

addition by subtraction?

ouch

Chris Dudley for three!

by wilbjammin on Jan 10, 2009 1:38 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

lol

it’s sad, but true…

Open Letter to Celtics Blog:

Your record since Christ's birthday is 2 wins and 7 LOSSES. This has to do with the Curse of the Banned Bloggers, when your henchmen banned a dozen BlazersEdge regulars for a couple of frivolous comments. Hey Todo... I mean Jeff Clark: We're not in 1939 Germany any more. Reinstate us or the curse will continue. You shouldn't rule a blog with an iron first like that--because karma and payback is a powerful thing.

by Bust a Bucket on Jan 10, 2009 1:43 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Obviously there is more to come but

So Memphis can’t sign Miles to a third 10 day contract.
After this one is up they would have to sign him for the rest of the season.
After the Grizzlies play him for 2 games and all the cap/tax stuff is done why would another team sign him? Just to help the Grizzlies lawsuit?
If the Grizzlies sign Miles for the rest of the year and play him regularly what if his knee blows up just like the doctor’s predicted?
Like it or not the Blazers have tempted a team to make some seriously bold moves.

by loud1 on Jan 10, 2009 6:27 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

NO this is his first 10 day - - he gets one more with them...and then any number of them around the league this season

"The Portland Trail Blazers are aware that certain teams may be contemplating signing Darius Miles to a contract for the purpose of adversely impacting the Portland Trail Blazers Salary Cap and tax positions....."

by LetsBlaze on Jan 10, 2009 9:32 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Read This

Ten Day Contracts

"The Portland Trail Blazers are aware that certain teams may be contemplating signing Darius Miles to a contract for the purpose of adversely impacting the Portland Trail Blazers Salary Cap and tax positions....."

by LetsBlaze on Jan 10, 2009 9:35 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

What amazes me, is how why an employer

would put an employee to work who was diagnosed with a career ending injury without getting a medical clearance.

In most work places if you miss a week pf work because you slipped on the job an dhurt your knee, you can’t come back to work until you are medically cleared because of the liabilities involved..

Why is basketball different?

by raoulduke on Jan 10, 2009 12:27 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Yeah...

If I were a GM of a team, I would want nothing to do with a guy with that kind of history. Unless of course I was the Grizzlies who are an awful team, and I just figured out how to get us about $300 grand.

by tmundal on Jan 10, 2009 12:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

So here is my summary of the situation.

After he plays in two more games, this thing will look somewhat similar to the Steve Francis buyout. We will have gotten rid of a guy we didn’t want influencing our good character young players. He still counts toward the salary cap, but Portland and the PTB are much better off without him around.

by TallTimber on Jan 10, 2009 1:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

That Turned out to be one helluv an expensive email

when i get sad, i stop being sad & become awesome again. true story.

by Net Ranger on Jan 10, 2009 3:44 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

It would've happened anyway.

Unfortunately for Memphis, Paul Allen is going to buy the city, and burn it to the ground.

by tmundal on Jan 10, 2009 4:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

That's not fair!!!

If he burns down anything more than just the arena , I will be really suprised

Homer: "Yikes....a bear is eating my father!!"
Selma: "I'm Selma"
Homer: "A talking bear is eating my father!!"

by 92wastheyear on Jan 10, 2009 4:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Paul Allen doesn't play softball.

Much like Chuck Norris… He sees payback not on equal terms…but more like…you slap him in the face, he drops a nuclear bomb on your hometown.

by tmundal on Jan 10, 2009 5:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

He already pays Miles and Francis. He should really ask the owner if he can get a share of the profits :)

by Norsktroll on Jan 10, 2009 5:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

It would’ve happened anyway.

That’s not the point. Miller sent out a threatening letter/email to 29 other teams besides Memphis. If you don’t think that plays a part in who and/or how KP does business with them from here on out, you need to learn business 101.

As far as weather it played a pivotal role in whether or not Memphis brass signing him… i suppose we’ll never know will we?

when i get sad, i stop being sad & become awesome again. true story.

by Net Ranger on Jan 10, 2009 6:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Not quite sure what you are saying..

Are you saying teams won’t deal with KP because of it, or KP won’t deal with Memphis?

Either way you are right, but I think ALOT of the teams would’ve done something similar if they were in the same position. I personally think Memphis made a move that will be looked down upon by alot of people around the league. The thinking being that if they did it to Portland, they would do it to anyone. Alot of guys won’t want to deal with Memphis because of it.

I know in my business there are companies that I will not deal with based on how they treat other companies who are in fact my competition but I have good relationships with.

by tmundal on Jan 10, 2009 6:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

tmundal

as always, i respect what you have to say in/on this forum and enjoy what you contribute. That said, I’m merely saying that dealing with and/or swooning individuals is a fickle enterprise. Often times (as you know) pulling the trigger on a deal with an indiviual can come down the smallest matter.

Perceptual threat of said email/letter could be that small variable that goes against KP’s dealings.

when i get sad, i stop being sad & become awesome again. true story.

by Net Ranger on Jan 10, 2009 10:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs