What about TJ Ford?
Does anyone know the status of TJ Ford, currently playing for Indiana? He is a true point guard whose career started well initially with Milwaukee after being picked as a 8th pick several years ago as I recall. It was thought he would have a brilliant future in the NBA, but while with Milwaukee he developed back problems, sat out at year rehab'ing it and ultimately received full clearance as "healed". When he came back, Milwaukee had Williams and Redd at the guard spots, leaving him odd man out. Not sure if he had surgery prior to his trade to Toronto, where he played quite well, before being traded to Indiana in the Jermaine O'Neal trade. It seemed he was doing OK with Indiana at the start of this season as well, but the team was not winning at the level expected. For reasons I don't know, he has been replaced in the started position by Jerred Jack. Based on all of this, and what I think is truly a weakness of the Blazers at the PG position, I suspect he is available and not for a steep price in a trade. I think he is a step up from Felton on Charlotte, definitely Conley on Memphis (wouldn't go there) and most other PGs that get bandied about on this site as "must have". I believe TJ is still only 25 years old.
So what do we have really. Blake is stop gap at best as a starter, and I think not an effective backup where you need a spark, which he is not, apart from hitting wide open 3's really. Think about it. Of course he has a low assist to turnover ratio, because he plays so conservatively he has very few assists in the first place, leading to few risks for turnovers. He is quite foot slow for an NBA PG, regularly being beaten by the quality, quick PGs of the league, the type winners have. How often does the second unit come in after a lethagic start to the game only to get a piazza/verve/energy that stimulates the team and the crowd. That comes from Blake only when he is hitting 3's, not from him defending or setting up others. He has no significant mid-range game to compliment his long distance shooting which is impressive as the single real element he brings (my view) other than being a total team player without caring about stats for himself (he surely doesn't get them). In fact, I find myself upset with him a lot for not taking better shots than others take in a heart beat. Travis takes several crazy shots a game that you won't see form Blake take (even one) in an entire season. Yeah, I know, Travis actually makes a few of them, so he keeps taking them.
While Sergio does penetrate, he is virtualy non-threat as a finisher. Sergio compleing a layup is an adventure akin to Shaq's foul shooting. TJ is a better finisher than Sergio who also after 2 1/3 years has not developed a reliable outside shot, no mid-range jumper and also not capable of defending the better quality point guards who penetrate on both he and Blake at will. I have been very high in the past on Sergio, but my patience is wearing a bit with him.
While Bayless may ultimately convert from a score first mentality guard to a penetrating PG among the best who can finish or dish, this all remains to be seen. He is truly a work in progress it seems to me, but I honestly believe he has a world of potential, and I love his feistiness as we all saw in the last game. He has within him a will to excell more so than most. He will push himself like few others to achieve his goals I think. He has a wonderful point guard physical qualities of quickness, tenacious defense that will only get better, what I believe will be a quality mid-range and deeper outside shot, an ability to penetrate like none of the others we have. So his downside of the present is that he doesn't think like a point guard. Rather it is forced - the exact opposite to Sergio's mindset which calibrated too far the other way. Who knows, maybe Sergio will muscle up a bit by next year and come back with an ability to complete a layup when he penetrates, and even someday develop a reliable mid-range jump shot if not a 3 pointer, which has fallen off of late.
Therefore, since there are few (if any) quality PGs seemingly out there available (not wanting Felton or Conley), TJ Ford is intriging to me as someone who may both be available for little demanded in return and fill a void I think we really need now and in the future, and if healthy, may be someone to have around for a while. If he were to come, either Blake or Sergio would have to go. Like many others, I would not give Bayless away, since many have taken 2 - 3 years to come on like gang busters, and I think that will be him if not quicker if allowed to develop with playing time, which I would start giving now of some of Blake's minutes if nothing else is done at that position. I think he deserves to show in more extended minutes what he can do..
Questions about TJ include:
1. Is he physically healthy, especially relating to his back?
2. Is he in the coach's doghouse? What, for example, why is Jerred Jack starting over him after TJ started most of the seaon?
3. Does he still have the quickness he once had?
4. What is his mid-range and long distance shooting like?
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As for the health issues: He has a "built-in" health issue that will never go away
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinal_stenosis
Basically his spinal canal is too narrow. In 2004 he suffered a terrible crash and contusion after fouled by Mark Madsen. In 2005 a surgeon later fused two vertebrae in Ford’s neck. That will remain a weak spot. He is still quick as hell, and on 99% of all days that is not a problem. Yet one more freak accident (like last year when he was fouled by Horford and crashed to the floor) could instantly end his career.
Then he would be "medically Retired"
and then play 10 games for someone else just to “screw” us.
:-)
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by OCBlazerFan1 on Jan 9, 2009 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
I didn't know it was that bad
Obviously freak accidents are uncommon, as the term would suggest, but still. I was a big fan when I was around 14 and he was at Texas, and he is probably my favorite college player that I actually followed when I was younger, ahead of Dwyane Wade. Due to him being in Milwaukee, then Toronto, and now Indiana, I haven’t been able to see as much of him as an NBA player as I would like. I do remember watching him play against Golden State last year, and every time he drove the ball, which was often, he ended up on the ground. Admirable, but potentially scary considering the situation.
Salaam.
If we complained about Jack, how would his higher-paid back-up fare?
I liked Jack, but I know I’m in the the minority (at least vocally). But I’d take Blake over Ford at this point.
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Ford
would make our bigs instantly better. Gregs offensive production would go up, as well as LA. What Ford lacks in a jump shot, he makes up for in getting to the hoop. If Ford wasn’t such an injury liability, I would get him in a heart beat. If you look at his stats on NBA.com, you will see how many games he has missed over the years. Way to many to ignore.
The back is still a problem
The reason Jack has started ahead of him lately is lingering back problems.
And before that, here’s a quote from IndyCornrows:
T.J. Ford is dealing with another strain, this time abdominal (following previous groin and lower-back strains), so his availability won’t be known until game time and if he’s a go will likely mean a role off the bench again.
So I think that’s gotta be a no on the “is he healthy.” and probably the “do we want him.” But he was playing pretty well prior to all those strains.
I think TJ Ford
has been bandied about on this site before.
If you agree that what the Blazers need is a 1 who can defend other 1s and hit the threes at a a decent clip then TJ Ford is not your man as he is not good at either of these things.
I am still in the camp that Hinrich would be good for us, but I think Bayless maybe able to be our 1 of the future along side Roy if he can improve his pick and roll play and outside shooting. His defense of late is awesome and I cant say that I see a lot of 1s getting after it on d like he has the last couple of games.
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
right now I just want to see bayless get more run behind blake.
I think sergio could be good to keep around especially for rudy but as of now i want to see what can develop with Bayless.
Blake is very important for us this year if we want to make the playoffs his shooting and decisionmaking will win a lot of games this year. It already has(if you can forget about the clippers) Unless we get an awesome ( Hinrich or better ) point guard who is healthy (Not Hinrich) I dont think there is a guard who can come in here and do a better job than Blake would for the rest of the season.
What do you guys think?
other than a few rookie mistakes Jared has shown the ability to drive and pass to the open shooter, run a break, and get to the rack (although he has seemed too tight to finish unless dunking). I also was very impressed with his D-fense. I know the D-troit game was only one really good game ( 12 minutes for that matter) but I think what we saw there will be the minimum that Bayless can give on a regular night. I expect him to find his mid range and 3 point shots as he gets more acclimated to the NBA game.
Already what he has shown us he is a perfect recipe for our starting unit. Drive and dish to LMA or Greg, hit Batum (or webster) for a spot up 3, and keep doubles off of brandon roy, allowing him to do whatever he feels.
Our biggest problem on D is the pick and roll. We are always switiching creating mismatches in favor of the other team. LMA is decent at defending up top, but then we miss his rebounding. Greg just gets straight attacked everytime resulting in fouls and low minutes. Lately it seems like the only times he has a bad game is because he gets in foul trouble, if he is able to stay out there you can almost ring up a double double.
That Boston game when Bayless drove to the rack and could have easily layed it in and instead kicked it to blake for the three pointer shows me that he is willing and able to be a team first, point guard type of player. (Either that or his confidence in his layup ability was brutally shaken)
Anyways I never played organized basketball growing up so I may not be able to recognize his deficiencies as a point guard/combo guard with roy. Would anybody care to point them out?
(This shold be in my 5th paragraphOn Defending the pick and roll,) Jared has shown the willingness/strength/speed to fight through them
also the ability to stay in front of his man. That is one of the biggest problems we have a pg, which is leading to foul trouble for greg.
TJ Ford
Ignoring the injury risk for a bit…
He’s not a bad player, but sorta limited. Like you point out he doesn’t have a good jump shot, but also is a pretty poor defender and doesn’t make up for it by getting a lot of steals or something. If ya think Bayless has short arms, TJ Ford is one of the few players who is taller than his arms is long (I do not think this really matters, I’m just being cute).
Ford has the tendency to really overdribble and hog the ball. He always had decent assist numbers, but mostly because he is always hogging the ball and working every possession with it in his hands. His poor defense, no jumper, and ballhoggery won’t go well with Roy. Plus, Ford is one of those guys who can shoot you out of a game because he looks for his own shot too much— and won’t stop. He’ll go and try to win the game on his own, no matter how he had played earlier. That confidence is great in your go-to guy, very annoying when it’s your 4th best player and he is ignoring Chris Bosh.
Plus, remember last season? He made such a fuss over losing his starting spot to Jose Calderon, that in the interest of team unity Calderon stepped back from his earned starting job and gave it to TJ. That ain’t good.
He’s quick as hell, can be fun to watch, but he isn’t very useful and thinks he is more than he is.
If we really wanted him, we coulda’ got him cheap last season from the Raptors, and he hasn’t done anything since then to make you think he’s the guy for us.
So to me, even without the injury mess, he’s not a good fit. When you factor those in, and how you have to assume he WILL get hurt again since it is not freak accidents that caused his problems but an actual genetic back disorder that will flare up again on a hard fall (he’s a quick, 5’11", skinny, penetrating guard with no jumper— he’s going to end up falling on the floor again). I do not want him to get hurt obviously, and I hope he never does again, but it’s a very obvious risk that is different from someone like Greg Oden, who has had unlucky DIFFERENT injuries, or Joel Przybilla, who has had the same.
TJ Ford’s problems can easily come back, sadly. That, combined with his actual game, make him a no go.
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