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Wow.

Original Sports Illustrated article.

You all know what happened.  First linked here by blazerhopeful then re-reported by broyposse and generally flipped out on here, the blazers have thrown down the gauntlet when it comes to signing darius miles.  Since the first thread is now well over 300 comments, lagging, and also lacks a poll, here is part duece.

Now that we've fired off oppinions all willy-nilly, maybe it's time to debate this in a more structured manner?

GO!

Poll
Was the Ultimatum issues by the blazers the correct action to take with regards to protecting our cap room and/or resolving the Darius situation?
YES!
180 votes
NO!
105 votes
other (aka we are so getting sued)
59 votes

344 votes | Poll has closed

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Larry Miller is a genius

Brilliant tactic

Rip City REVIVAL

by HonestPete on Jan 8, 2009 11:28 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

I love KP, PA, Larry Miller, etc.

"Man with 1 chopstick go hungry." ~W.P.

by prezofdeath on Jan 9, 2009 12:50 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I say bring em on

All of em. Blazers vs The World.

"When I have the ball, I experiment." #5

by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 8, 2009 11:28 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes :) I agree

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

by BlazerFan1 on Jan 8, 2009 11:29 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

evidently

I agree we have a case

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

by BlazerFan1 on Jan 8, 2009 11:32 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Us against the world

Bring back the t-shirts from 92.
And grab the Jaynes/Eggers book while you’re at it.

The inbound to McGinnis, drives, stops, pumps, shoots, short, no good...AND THE GAME IS OVER! ~ Bill Schonely

by SandbergOnSports on Jan 8, 2009 11:30 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

As long as no-one sings that sappy You and Me Against the World

I promise you I will hurl

"The Portland Trail Blazers are aware that certain teams may be contemplating signing Darius Miles to a contract for the purpose of adversely impacting the Portland Trail Blazers Salary Cap and tax positions....."

by LetsBlaze on Jan 9, 2009 6:45 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I do think this was a good move.

Aggressive, auspicious, and perhaps a little whiny yes, but GM’s were openly saying they would consider signing him to a 10 day contract for the specific purpose of hurting our cap, so the office probably felt they had to do something.

by dario argento on Jan 8, 2009 11:30 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well maybe not "linch"

but punish severly or trick that GM to think he had invested w/ Bernie Madoff..

Sophia

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

by BlazerFan1 on Jan 8, 2009 11:33 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

or at least get ourselves banned from that team's blog

"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."

by Seijeff on Jan 8, 2009 11:45 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

Anyone else posting on both threads still?

The inbound to McGinnis, drives, stops, pumps, shoots, short, no good...AND THE GAME IS OVER! ~ Bill Schonely

by SandbergOnSports on Jan 8, 2009 11:31 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

im here now... stay <3

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

by BlazerFan1 on Jan 8, 2009 11:34 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

your man card has offically been suspended pending a hearing

December 18, 2008.

"Roy is Roy, and if I were to bet my life on a game of 5-on-5, I’d bet on whichever team Roy was playing on." by HurraKane212

by maid tu rek on Jan 9, 2009 1:42 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

agreed

tongue must be picking up a lot of hair from the carpet.

Greg Oden, where posters happen.

by ratbastird on Jan 9, 2009 7:45 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the first ones a masterpiece lol

Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.

by aryamehr on Jan 8, 2009 11:33 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I dont think

I don’t think I can think far enough ahead to see the greatness of this move yet….I know its going to be great…I’m just waiting for the story to unfold. It reminds me of movies like Oceans 11 where they are always 1 step ahead.

by Philthyanimal on Jan 8, 2009 11:31 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not necessarily but it makes the blazers with the upper hand

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

by BlazerFan1 on Jan 8, 2009 11:35 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's like a slow methodical boxing match

A brilliantly scripted story of an out of shape NBA player joining up with the league that said he was unfit to play, and taking on his former employer in a harrowing battle over ethics and cash.

Roy To The World

by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 8, 2009 11:37 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the only unethical person in this entire thing is Miles

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

by BlazerFan1 on Jan 8, 2009 11:39 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And complicit teams like ummm {cough}memphis?

"The Portland Trail Blazers are aware that certain teams may be contemplating signing Darius Miles to a contract for the purpose of adversely impacting the Portland Trail Blazers Salary Cap and tax positions....."

by LetsBlaze on Jan 8, 2009 11:49 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

For those of us who

Have been here since the news broke.. WOW WHAT A RIDE.

Roy To The World

by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 8, 2009 11:31 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah i started on the first thread with like 3 comments....

AND IT BLEW UP!

Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.

by aryamehr on Jan 8, 2009 11:35 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Isn't that from Office Space?

Management always likes to fire people on a Friday afternoon, since that provides less chance of an incident occuring?

"West just flipped Roy's switch to 'Hide the women and children'"
- tmundal, Nov 29, 2008 9:11 PM PST

by GustyJ on Jan 8, 2009 11:34 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Real HR consultants advise to fire early in the week and in the morning (Tuesday, Wednesday), so there is time to calmly talk over the situation and get feedback. If you fire someone on a friday afternoon, he could come back on Monday with a gun :)

by Norsktroll on Jan 9, 2009 2:28 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and the greatest tv show ever, the west wing

the friday media dump. a classic.

Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.

by aryamehr on Jan 8, 2009 11:34 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

remember McCain's Oppo Dump Day?

they released that stuff about Bristol (Conn.) Palin being knocked up the day a hurricane was hitting the Gulf Coast… that guy deserve PR man of the year…

by Bust a Bucket on Jan 8, 2009 11:37 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Y'know, ...

The Wonder Years is the all-time greatest television show.

Freaks & Geeks and Undeclared give it a run for its money, though.

by AK1984 on Jan 9, 2009 12:40 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Release it during the National Championship game.

Most of the talk Nationally will be about the BCS and the big game.

by parkinglotj on Jan 8, 2009 11:38 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Who knows

I think he is talking about hockey or something.

"When I have the ball, I experiment." #5

by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 9, 2009 2:32 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sophia...my computer crashed before i could respond to your truce...

and i did, in the other post…just letting you know but it’s way in the middle somewhere…and someone responded in that post that you are married to an NBA player…not Darius right? hahaha kidding.

mi dispiace e tregua

"Step up to my mic!!!" Joel's right and left fist

by broyposse on Jan 8, 2009 11:35 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

if the blazers bought out BE

they’d make so much ad revenue now…i can picture a commercial of spirit mountains musical playing in the background like ads play on espn.com now.

by Philthyanimal on Jan 8, 2009 11:36 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you need to get adblocker

I haven’t seen an add in years

by trailblazersfan on Jan 8, 2009 11:37 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Blue Blockers work the same

"Step up to my mic!!!" Joel's right and left fist

by broyposse on Jan 8, 2009 11:37 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what song?

The intro song to the broadcasts? I love that thing!

The inbound to McGinnis, drives, stops, pumps, shoots, short, no good...AND THE GAME IS OVER! ~ Bill Schonely

by SandbergOnSports on Jan 8, 2009 11:39 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bring back the horn fanfare

Good memories from that.

Hell, bring back the full Blazer Broadcast theme (including the bongos)

by DonkeyShins on Jan 9, 2009 8:58 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

I like the Curtis Salgado version

If you smile at me I will understand, because that is something everybody everywhere does in the same language. - Crosby/Stills/Kantner

by 22baylor on Jan 9, 2009 9:37 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

if the blazers did that it would be the NBA's basically

i would be against that totally … :) I <3 dave and our anti socialist blog :)

Sophia

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

by BlazerFan1 on Jan 8, 2009 11:37 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why is everyone freaking out?

This was a good letter and a good threat… this helps our case in arbitration if other teams play him for 2 or 3 games and we need to claim that it doesn’t count against the cap…

Settle down…

by Bust a Bucket on Jan 8, 2009 11:36 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

its kinda more than that

it shows that kp isn’t as soft as some of our players are…ok that was a low blow.

by Philthyanimal on Jan 8, 2009 11:37 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hightide totally lost it

"When I have the ball, I experiment." #5

by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 8, 2009 11:37 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wanna bet???

I just took 3 muscle relaxers and a couple prozac… I’m extremely calm.

by Bust a Bucket on Jan 8, 2009 11:39 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i just hope youll be able to control your bowel movements now...

Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.

by aryamehr on Jan 8, 2009 11:39 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He's Big Lebowski'ing you

Movie reference from one of the greatest films of all time.

Morty

by Mortimer on Jan 9, 2009 12:22 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

bad form

This is what Lucas would do. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0aPkIE2qK0

by 123_G.O._RipCity on Jan 9, 2009 6:41 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Stop what you are doing

and immediately go rent the film. Watch it and thank me later. Big Lebowski is one of those rare perfect films. Like “Princess Bride” and “Heat” it is a flawless film within it’s genre. Although Big Lebowski is almost it’s own unique entity. God I love that movie.

He's Coming! Oden Slayer of Giants

by Idog1976 on Jan 9, 2009 12:49 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Am I wrong, dude?

You’re not wrong Walter, you’re just an A-hole.

OK then!

by TheTinfoil on Jan 9, 2009 10:43 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

just kidding...

but I’m glad you’re calm “dude”

I think people are reading more into this than there really is…

do you agree?

by Bust a Bucket on Jan 8, 2009 11:40 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Inside jokes

are the best. Only when I get them, though, otherwise they’re hurtful and exclusionary and I DON’T LIKE THEM. I wish you guys had started pretend-fighting and pretend-escalated it with more and more aggressive quotes culminating with “Shut the **** up, Dario!!!” and seen what had been the general reaction. Priceless. Plan that out next time please? Thanks.

by BlazersOrBust on Jan 9, 2009 2:12 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

David Stern will do something tomorrow...i don't know what..

he seems like a dictator…any guesses?

"Step up to my mic!!!" Joel's right and left fist

by broyposse on Jan 8, 2009 11:37 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

if he wasn't in on this

he’d probably issue a fine…if he was…i dunno.

by Philthyanimal on Jan 8, 2009 11:38 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm guessing

the Blazers let the league know this was in the works, no clue whatsoever as to what Stern will do

Bayless has been testing the fences for weaknesses

by blazeraddict on Jan 8, 2009 11:54 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i would think so too

if not it’d be pretty “disrespectful” to the league and DS’s authority. heh.

by Philthyanimal on Jan 8, 2009 11:55 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

David Stern=Stalin

Sophia

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

by BlazerFan1 on Jan 8, 2009 11:39 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He'll move us to Kansas City

The inbound to McGinnis, drives, stops, pumps, shoots, short, no good...AND THE GAME IS OVER! ~ Bill Schonely

by SandbergOnSports on Jan 8, 2009 11:39 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

call for the systematic assassination of every blazers senior staff member?

Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.

by aryamehr on Jan 8, 2009 11:39 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Think that the team will notice that the front office

is throwing a couple of hard elbows at anyone that gets in the way?

by parkinglotj on Jan 8, 2009 11:40 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

its like turning

super saiyyan 4. very rare.

Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.

by aryamehr on Jan 8, 2009 11:42 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Does that mean that KP's hair goes all golden now?

The inbound to McGinnis, drives, stops, pumps, shoots, short, no good...AND THE GAME IS OVER! ~ Bill Schonely

by SandbergOnSports on Jan 8, 2009 11:43 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

actually no....

he’ll just grow out an extra long mane of black hair and get really hairy!

Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.

by aryamehr on Jan 8, 2009 11:44 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So when Our Front office is Soft we have the Jail Blazers and

 now we have a team of softies and hardest core hard core Front Office…

This irony is burning my hands off I love it

This is freaking POETIC!

Sophia

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

by BlazerFan1 on Jan 8, 2009 11:41 PM PST reply reply actions actions   1 recs

our front office right now would make KG wet himself...

and our players are all like bambi! its adorable.

Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.

by aryamehr on Jan 8, 2009 11:43 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I bet Glen Davis cried

after reading this (or, more likely, after KG read it to him)

by sfiles on Jan 9, 2009 10:37 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Or maybe after going 0-4 while the Cavs pound his team!

Think Kevin (little Stern) will be pleasant in the team plane tonight?

whoo, Katy bar the door! - Maurice Lucas anticipating Greg Oden's development

by lee3022 on Jan 9, 2009 8:18 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It will be interesting how this effects the CBA going forward

I don’t have the mind for all the intricacies, but if the potential to harm us financially exists…..it needs to be fixed…

"The Portland Trail Blazers are aware that certain teams may be contemplating signing Darius Miles to a contract for the purpose of adversely impacting the Portland Trail Blazers Salary Cap and tax positions....."

by LetsBlaze on Jan 8, 2009 11:41 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Issues like medical retirement should be pretty easy negotiation

between the NBA and the Players Association as it is clearly in both parties interest to avoid situations where potential legal action is talked about.

Issues like how much of basketball revenue (and how such revenue is calculated) is where the difficulty in the collective bargaining process comes about.

by tingeyga on Jan 9, 2009 1:08 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We need someone with craftsmanship

to construct a bat signal but with our pinwheel logo to get dave and ben to sign on in dire emergencies such as this.

by Philthyanimal on Jan 8, 2009 11:41 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

by BlazerFan1 on Jan 8, 2009 11:43 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that's what the batphone is for

Seriously, call it. It’s in Ben’s possession. In dire cases he may actually call you back!

The inbound to McGinnis, drives, stops, pumps, shoots, short, no good...AND THE GAME IS OVER! ~ Bill Schonely

by SandbergOnSports on Jan 8, 2009 11:44 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

they better get in on this

its epic!

Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.

by aryamehr on Jan 8, 2009 11:45 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

best moments of the election

did you hear about the Russian politician from Siberia with nearly no experience but can see Alaska so she claims to be knowledgeable about foreign issues with the USA

by trailblazersfan on Jan 9, 2009 1:14 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

if that was a reference to lame ol' Moscow, Idaho

you get a huge -1

If you think I'm insulting you, I'm insulted that you'd even think that I would think of insulting you.

by prezofdeath on Jan 9, 2009 10:40 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

need BatPhone alert texts for breaking Trailblazer news

"The Portland Trail Blazers are aware that certain teams may be contemplating signing Darius Miles to a contract for the purpose of adversely impacting the Portland Trail Blazers Salary Cap and tax positions....."

by LetsBlaze on Jan 8, 2009 11:43 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

did you text it YET?

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

by BlazerFan1 on Jan 8, 2009 11:43 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nah I mean auto alerts like email stuff I get...

"The Portland Trail Blazers are aware that certain teams may be contemplating signing Darius Miles to a contract for the purpose of adversely impacting the Portland Trail Blazers Salary Cap and tax positions....."

by LetsBlaze on Jan 8, 2009 11:45 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

503 719 1790

The inbound to McGinnis, drives, stops, pumps, shoots, short, no good...AND THE GAME IS OVER! ~ Bill Schonely

by SandbergOnSports on Jan 8, 2009 11:49 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yah wake Ben up

Its not like hes got a hot date and doesn’t want to be disturbed.

I kid because I love Ben.

"When I have the ball, I experiment." #5

by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 8, 2009 11:50 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I texted him the Darius getting waived news the other day

He texted back his thanks, and logged on soon after. I felt special.

by TheTinfoil on Jan 9, 2009 10:46 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

here it is by Hurrikane212
at one of my property lectures an intellectual property attorney introduced me to the concept of worst-case-scenario time travel. Imagine that someone has infringed upon your clients patent and you’ve not taken measures to protect him and you are in front of a jury. If you could go back in time, what would you have done differently so that you could tell it to the jury? Figure out what that is and do it now, beforehand.

The Blazers are setting up a "bad faith" argument. They are laying the foundation for a formal complaint. If this deters suitors for Miles, all the better. Also, since Miles was ruled unfit to play by an impartial doctor and he is still getting his money, it would be hard for him to push a case against PDX because the detriment to PDX would be unconscionable. He gets his 9mil, and Blazers are both penalized and unable to use his services when neither had reached any sort of buy-out agreement.

Darius will probably play, and PDX will probably appeal, and may use media articles to demonstrate that GM’s knew of the detriment to PDX and played Darius Miles in bad faith to hurt PDX’s capspace. That whole fiduciary duty thing holds quite a bit of weight, holds you to a higher standard of ethics. If it even smells like bad faith in a fiduciary relationship, it probably won’t go well for the "bad-faith-er" (not a legal term, but it’s more simple than "tortfeasor")

This will probably not be over for a while…

"Step up to my mic!!!" Joel's right and left fist

by broyposse on Jan 8, 2009 11:47 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hah, I reposted this

without seeing you’d all ready done it.

remember guys, in the legal world. three important phrases are

“Good faith”

“reasonable”

and most importantly… “It depends”

Blazer's fan since '84, Currently exiled in San Antonio

↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → B A

by HurraKane212 on Jan 9, 2009 12:03 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i knew it!!! you stayed at a Holiday Inn!

"Step up to my mic!!!" Joel's right and left fist

by broyposse on Jan 9, 2009 12:16 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ah, it was a Motel 8

us 1L’s ain’t got the cash to afford the Holiday inn

Blazer's fan since '84, Currently exiled in San Antonio

↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → B A

by HurraKane212 on Jan 9, 2009 12:18 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Seriously KP is a genius

if he could extend his GMing reach from not just the basketball court but to the courtroom, he’d be inducted into the GM hall of fame for sure.

by Philthyanimal on Jan 8, 2009 11:47 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gotta give credit to Larry Miller

as well on this one, I love that guy, always there shaking hands at the games.

Roy To The World

by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 8, 2009 11:49 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

More important issue

Should Bayless have the racing stripes in his hair?

"When I have the ball, I experiment." #5

by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 8, 2009 11:49 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that would scare me senseless

Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.

by aryamehr on Jan 8, 2009 11:50 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

rec

The inbound to McGinnis, drives, stops, pumps, shoots, short, no good...AND THE GAME IS OVER! ~ Bill Schonely

by SandbergOnSports on Jan 8, 2009 11:50 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

tigers couldn't sneak up on him

The inbound to McGinnis, drives, stops, pumps, shoots, short, no good...AND THE GAME IS OVER! ~ Bill Schonely

by SandbergOnSports on Jan 8, 2009 11:51 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OMG REC

REC REC REC
That was awesome… it’s my new sig

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

by BlazerFan1 on Jan 8, 2009 11:51 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Make it green

Rec’d

Bayless has been testing the fences for weaknesses

by blazeraddict on Jan 8, 2009 11:55 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that

is a funny picture!

"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."

by Seijeff on Jan 8, 2009 11:56 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LOL

"Man with 1 chopstick go hungry." ~W.P.

by prezofdeath on Jan 9, 2009 12:53 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That gave me

the same feeling I get when I watch the Southwest commercial, except the happy kind of tingly instead of the I’m-peeing-myself-cuz-I’m-terrified kind. Bayless is like a mother grizzly or Delta Force. You love him if he’s on your side…and don’t ever, ever piss him off if he’s on the other.

by BlazersOrBust on Jan 9, 2009 2:20 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it would be very Exorcist-like

Definitely, no escape. – Elgin

If you smile at me I will understand, because that is something everybody everywhere does in the same language. - Crosby/Stills/Kantner

by 22baylor on Jan 9, 2009 9:42 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you know whats funny?

i’m seeing more and more people with racing stripes in town…and by more and more i mean 2 people. which is still 2 more than i’ve seen in the last 15 years.

by Philthyanimal on Jan 8, 2009 11:52 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The batphone is probably on silent right now

Ben’s going to go nuts in the morning when he sees it.

by Timmay! on Jan 8, 2009 11:53 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm working hard to let him know he is missing a lot.

Hopefully he will give us credit for the messages.. hehe :)

Roy To The World

by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 8, 2009 11:54 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i emailed dave

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...

by BlazerFan1 on Jan 8, 2009 11:55 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i'm pretty sure

that emailing him won’t make him visit this site any quicker. i would think dave checks BE before his email anyways.

by Philthyanimal on Jan 8, 2009 11:56 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i just like to stalk him anyway

well not really but seriously i simply said" be is exploding, just thought you would want to know"

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...

by BlazerFan1 on Jan 8, 2009 11:57 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i can multi task he needs to understand that i;m an independent woman b4 we move forward

i’m all about women suffrage unlike dave…

Sophia

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...

by BlazerFan1 on Jan 9, 2009 12:00 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I call dibs on videographer

I’m talking Honeymoon night of course…

by Bust a Bucket on Jan 9, 2009 12:03 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hehe

you’re bad

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...

by BlazerFan1 on Jan 9, 2009 12:05 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i choose to be flattered by that comment

haha

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...

by BlazerFan1 on Jan 9, 2009 12:13 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

my computer is going so slow now :(

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...

by BlazerFan1 on Jan 8, 2009 11:55 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

we killed BE

I wish I could remember what event it was that we got it bogged down like this before..

Finals? Summer League? Draft? I dont remember!!

Roy To The World

by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 8, 2009 11:56 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oden draft and the Laker game

then the SA game and surely the draft

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...

by BlazerFan1 on Jan 8, 2009 11:58 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We nailed this site for the Laker game

Then it was back to normal by the fourth quarter, but let’s not talk about that…

by Timmay! on Jan 9, 2009 12:00 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no kidding i cant believe I brought up a game that didn't actually happen

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...

by BlazerFan1 on Jan 9, 2009 12:04 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Before the SB Nation make over

It slowed up something terrible in gameday threads

"When I have the ball, I experiment." #5

by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 9, 2009 12:09 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

still does for me

"The Portland Trail Blazers are aware that certain teams may be contemplating signing Darius Miles to a contract for the purpose of adversely impacting the Portland Trail Blazers Salary Cap and tax positions....."

by LetsBlaze on Jan 9, 2009 12:09 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It was terrible before

Less people posting, but just as slow (or worse).

Everyone was hitting refresh all game and pegging the server.

by Timmay! on Jan 9, 2009 12:10 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ya

its a lot better now than before…it took awihle to get used to, but i like the auto scroll and update features when people post.

by Philthyanimal on Jan 9, 2009 12:10 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Larry Miller = Mike Tyson (in his prime)

You hear the voice and you think softy, then the bell rings and BAM, stright to the dome

Bayless has been testing the fences for weaknesses

by blazeraddict on Jan 8, 2009 11:56 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

When KP gets to the office tomorrow

his first order of business will be to check out what the BEdgers are saying about the shot across the NBA’s bow. Then he will eat lunch.

by tingeyga on Jan 9, 2009 1:12 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Uh oh

Danny Ainge is covering up those big ears of his…

by DonkeyShins on Jan 9, 2009 9:00 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't know if it will help with the Miles situation

I do know we come off as jerks and I don’t like it.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Jan 8, 2009 11:56 PM PST reply reply actions actions   1 recs

I agree with that

This might work, it might not. But it certainly fails the “shoe on the other foot test” – if another team did it, would you be okay with it

Bayless has been testing the fences for weaknesses

by blazeraddict on Jan 8, 2009 11:58 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no

I don’t think I would at all…

"Hightide was the only "Yes" vote" - parkinglotj

Joel Freeland=Stud

by hightide on Jan 9, 2009 12:51 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

but really is it any more jerkish than other gm's publically saying they sign miles just to ruin the capspace?

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...

by BlazerFan1 on Jan 8, 2009 11:59 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WAY less jerkish

not jerkish at all

just legally flipping them off

"The Portland Trail Blazers are aware that certain teams may be contemplating signing Darius Miles to a contract for the purpose of adversely impacting the Portland Trail Blazers Salary Cap and tax positions....."

by LetsBlaze on Jan 9, 2009 12:00 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yes, slightly...

… because you might argue Miles has a right to play basketball for a living without someone threatening his potential new employers.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Jan 9, 2009 12:00 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

but does was he not morally and legally supposed to "earn" that b4 he was deemed unable to play

i mean Miles knew this would happen and milked it. The blazers probably anticipated that Miles would do this. I’m all over miles on this situation

Sophia

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...

by BlazerFan1 on Jan 9, 2009 12:01 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In this situation, everyone involved comes out looking like selfish, egocentric jerks.

I kind of enjoy that, though, because it vividly exposes our true colors as human beings.

by AK1984 on Jan 9, 2009 12:48 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no doubt

it exposes the NBA for the cut throat business it is. May ruin some of the more naive fan’s day…

Sophia

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...

by BlazerFan1 on Jan 9, 2009 12:56 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

don't take this as an insult ...

your consistently pure level of complete cynicism is quite impressive. Were you like this before Stern and Bennett ruthlessly stripped you of your basketball team?

by kickbrass on Jan 11, 2009 11:35 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i dont know how this works

but does miles necessarily have a case? i understand they are limiting his job opportunities…but the blazers could argue that they are still paying him his money owed.

by Philthyanimal on Jan 9, 2009 12:03 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I have no idea what the law is

I’m saying it strikes me as somewhat unethical. I’m not losing sleep for Miles, but the Blazers come off as arrogant and overbearing here, to me anyway.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Jan 9, 2009 12:04 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i agree with that

it seems unethical to me too…whether its unlawful i dunno.

by Philthyanimal on Jan 9, 2009 12:05 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sophia is right.

He is still getting paid, and he was medically retired, so we cut him with that blessing as if it would be better for his future health to not play basketball.

Roy To The World

by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 9, 2009 12:05 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i dont disagree with you to a point

it’s in my eyes the beginning of proof needed for litigation when they appeal after he plays to games…

Sophia

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...

by BlazerFan1 on Jan 9, 2009 12:07 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's a double edged sword

Blazers are positioning to sue another team, but doing it this way may give Miles/the NBA PA grounds for a claim against the Blazers. This is why the letter strikes me as maybe not the best way to do things, it opens the Blazers to a fair degree of risk

Bayless has been testing the fences for weaknesses

by blazeraddict on Jan 9, 2009 7:43 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not once rival execs

were quoted in the media.

This is a response to that, pure and simple, saying, “We’re in a joint venture. Watch yourselves, or our lawyers will be calling.”

If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President

by jscot on Jan 9, 2009 7:53 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

miles gets his money through next year

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...

by BlazerFan1 on Jan 9, 2009 12:04 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hollinger mentioned this in his chat today

that he was suprised that Mile hadn’t already been signed to a contract as it would be pure profit for them to do it. I guess Hollinger hadn’t heard about the e-mail yet.

by tingeyga on Jan 9, 2009 1:17 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But at what point is Miles just a pawn in all of this

If Team A says “Darius sign on the dotted line and play for us” and is only doing that so stick it to Portland, Darius isn’t being sought out to play basketball for a living, he is being sought out for revenge.

by tingeyga on Jan 9, 2009 1:15 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Darius is already a pawn here

I don’t know if he is aware or just doesn’t like the Blazers, but I don’t think teams are interested in his basketball ability but that is my guess

by trailblazersfan on Jan 9, 2009 1:18 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OK

So the guy sits around for 2+ years balloons up in weight. Get’s legally determined to be medically retired and then takes a quick trip to Jesus Tomb in Jerusalem and he’s able to ball again? D Miles is NOT the victim here. He never has been. If anything him and his shady agent are the ones causing this problem by D. Miles not wanting to work for his money. He would still be sitting on his duff if he was on Portland’s roster. However, now that he can pad a few more hundred thousand dollars he is magically healed and able to play. Unless you are saying KP and the League conspired to illegally medically retire Miles then clearly D. Miles is not the victim here but is a punk at best.

He's Coming! Oden Slayer of Giants

by Idog1976 on Jan 9, 2009 12:59 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no

cuz they wouldnt openly admit to it.

by Philthyanimal on Jan 9, 2009 12:01 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It gives us some character

It’s gonna be kind of nice to hear the pundits giving us street cred.

Roy To The World

by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 8, 2009 11:59 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

we are G's

for sure

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...

by BlazerFan1 on Jan 9, 2009 12:01 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Must be 1/8

Otherwise they’d note it was not during the current week (ie. they’d say “Last Thursday” to signify the time that passed)

by Timmay! on Jan 9, 2009 12:02 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the reason they say "thursday"

is so that they don’t have to update it for another week.

The inbound to McGinnis, drives, stops, pumps, shoots, short, no good...AND THE GAME IS OVER! ~ Bill Schonely

by SandbergOnSports on Jan 9, 2009 12:02 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

posted this in the other thread

at one of my property lectures an intellectual property attorney introduced me to the concept of worst-case-scenario time travel. Imagine that someone has infringed upon your clients patent and you’ve not taken measures to protect him and you are in front of a jury. If you could go back in time, what would you have done differently so that you could tell it to the jury? Figure out what that is and do it now, beforehand.

The Blazers are setting up a "bad faith" argument. They are laying the foundation for a formal complaint. If this deters suitors for Miles, all the better. Also, since Miles was ruled unfit to play by an impartial doctor and he is still getting his money, it would be hard for him to push a case against PDX because the detriment to PDX would be unconscionable. He gets his 9mil, and Blazers are both penalized and unable to use his services when neither had reached any sort of buy-out agreement.

Darius will probably play, and PDX will probably appeal, and may use media articles to demonstrate that GM’s knew of the detriment to PDX and played Darius Miles in bad faith to hurt PDX’s capspace. That whole fiduciary duty thing holds quite a bit of weight, holds you to a higher standard of ethics. If it even smells like bad faith in a fiduciary relationship, it probably won’t go well for the "bad-faith-er" (not a legal term, but it’s more simple than "tortfeasor")

This will probably not be over for a while…

Blazer's fan since '84, Currently exiled in San Antonio

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by HurraKane212 on Jan 9, 2009 12:00 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think this is a good analysis of the situation

i’ve anticipated that Miles plays and the Blazers sue . This "warning " is part of the whole process.

Sophia

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...

by BlazerFan1 on Jan 9, 2009 12:03 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i reposted for you up top here...

i’m good at that tonight!

"Step up to my mic!!!" Joel's right and left fist

by broyposse on Jan 9, 2009 12:11 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

w00t!

i’m copy/paste worthy! My mother would be so proud!

Blazer's fan since '84, Currently exiled in San Antonio

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by HurraKane212 on Jan 9, 2009 12:19 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well guys, it's been fun

But if I stay here any longer tonight I’m going to crazy (wait, already have). Sleep well, if you happen to get any tonight, and we’ll all be rushing for the sports page in the morning.

The inbound to McGinnis, drives, stops, pumps, shoots, short, no good...AND THE GAME IS OVER! ~ Bill Schonely

by SandbergOnSports on Jan 9, 2009 12:01 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Way too early

Yahoo and CNN have general articles up. We won’t see anything hit the fan until tomorrow, most likely.

by Timmay! on Jan 9, 2009 12:06 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It just hit ESPN.com

about 15 minutes ago
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3820794

They really are slipping if it took them that long to pick up on this.

by tingeyga on Jan 9, 2009 1:19 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it's pretty amazing that at the same time this story broke

there was an earthquake in southern California coincidence or not????

by trailblazersfan on Jan 9, 2009 12:05 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it's a conspiracy, they just keep creating disasters to get Yao to pay them "recovery" money

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...

by BlazerFan1 on Jan 9, 2009 12:08 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that was over the top

but this whole thread is reeking conspiracy theories, i thought i’de thicken the plot. maybe Miles works for the Chinese mafia and has a part in the small amount of votes roy receives in all star voting

Sophia

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...

by BlazerFan1 on Jan 9, 2009 12:12 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

further and more dramatic

NBA= Medici Family
Blazers=Florence and rest of Italy

Sophia

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...

by BlazerFan1 on Jan 9, 2009 12:16 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ok now thats awesome sophia

Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.

by aryamehr on Jan 9, 2009 12:39 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The New World Order has a stake in the Euroleague, so this is all about killing the NBA.

Okay, that made no sense even to me. Alas, a majority of my jokes tend to fall flat like that.

by AK1984 on Jan 9, 2009 12:52 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

24 is back on Sunday!!!

"Step up to my mic!!!" Joel's right and left fist

by broyposse on Jan 9, 2009 12:13 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They are characterizing it as if we hired the doctor

and we got some sort of benefits for cutting his career short.

"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."

by Seijeff on Jan 9, 2009 12:15 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

clearly that would have been dumb

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...

by BlazerFan1 on Jan 9, 2009 12:16 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

we all need to do a pre game meet up again

totally off topic i know. i had to miss out last time.

by Philthyanimal on Jan 9, 2009 12:08 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

is that an official event?

or is that just something someone here puts together on a whim?

by Philthyanimal on Jan 9, 2009 12:12 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's an official event

If I was quick and smooth like other posters I’d get you the link, but I’m tired.

It’ll be the next couple months though

Roy To The World

by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 9, 2009 12:13 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oh

we should do a non official one then for an away game or something.

by Philthyanimal on Jan 9, 2009 12:15 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm always down.

My 2 games I was lucky enough to go to were both holiday games, Halloween, and Christmas.. Buteven then I’m always up for pre game chill.

Roy To The World

by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 9, 2009 12:17 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

maybe the clips game?

thats like the only away game in the near future with a 7 o clock start time…all the others are on east coast time.

by Philthyanimal on Jan 9, 2009 12:22 AM PST