Blazers Issue Threat to the League!!!!!!!!
blazerhopeful just reported in a fanshot link that the Blazers issue a league wide warning (i used the word "threat") to GMs and Presidents of NBA teams trying to sign Miles:
Here's some juicy excerpts:
"The Portland Trail Blazers will take all necessary steps to safeguard its rights, including, without limitation, litigation,'' wrote Blazers president Larry Miller in an e-mail addressed late Thursday night to all NBA team presidents and general managers. SI.com was provided access to the memo by an NBA team executive.
"Team Presidents and General Managers,
"The Portland Trail Blazers are aware that certain teams may be contemplating signing Darius Miles to a contract for the purpose of adversely impacting the Portland Trail Blazers Salary Cap and tax positions. Such conduct from a team would violate its fiduciary duty as an NBA joint venturer. In addition, persons or entities involved in such conduct may be individually liable to the Portland Trail Blazers for tortuously interfering with the Portland Trail Blazers' contract rights and perspective economic opportunities.
"Please be aware that if a team engages in such conduct, the Portland Trail Blazers will take all necessary steps to safeguard its rights, including, without limitation, litigation.''
A team executive said it was "unprecedented'' for an NBA team to threaten a lawsuit against a rival for signing a player who is a free agent.
Full Link:
Full Article from Sports Illustrated
I personally think this is intense but it will backfire...
GMs and Presidents have egos...they don't like to be threatenKP will have a harder time trading players because some GMs will find this insulting.Miles will sueDavid Stern might get mad since he likes to be in control.
Why didn't the BLazers just wait and take it up with the League and Stern?
I guess Mile's cap space is a BIG DEAL. I don't know why, but this makes things sooo much more exciting before the trade deadline.
Edit: after much discussion and paranoia, seems to me the Blazers will be fine...thanks again BEdge members for a fun night.
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yep, its on the cover of Yahoo too
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba;_ylt=Ai8sX9cB4SrgbSCh56uZZUA5nYcB
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by broyposse on Jan 8, 2009 9:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
forget it...it's not letting me link...
just go to sports.yahoo.com
then click on NBA
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by broyposse on Jan 8, 2009 9:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This is hilarious
Can they even do that?
by rmcdougall on Jan 8, 2009 9:55 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I think it's fake because
“perspective economic opportunities.” is such an obvious mistake when the word “prospective” is what was meant. If someone running a team doesn’t know the difference, then I want their job.
by raoulduke on Jan 8, 2009 9:56 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
it's real
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by broyposse on Jan 8, 2009 9:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
also "tortuously interfering"
That sounds like enhanced interrogation at Gitmo.
The author meant to say tortiously interfering, as in, doing something that is actionable in tort.
The question we should really ponder is not why al-Zeidi could be so impolite as to throw his shoes at Bush, but why the dozens of other shoes in the room remained on people's feet, why no foot odor ever purifies the air at a White House press conference, why a man who throws his shoes at our president is more popular than our president himself.
by MT Suit on Jan 10, 2009 1:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Despite what some say, this 9 million dollars in cap space is quite important
I’m glad the Blazers are doing something about it, even if they don’t have all the power in the world to back it up. I’d prefer Miles not playing the rest of the way, to almost all the trades (non-homeristic trades) I’ve heard on this site.
by as11osu on Jan 8, 2009 9:56 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I wonder how Dave feels about this...
because after reading his post, I didn’t think it was a big deal for us…or maybe he meant they plan for this already, and the warning was part of it….
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by broyposse on Jan 8, 2009 10:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
intense because it's unprecedented...but you're right, kinda embarrasing
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by broyposse on Jan 8, 2009 10:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I feel fine
This doesn’t necessarily mean this is a Big Deal in terms of, “Oh jeepers, we’re SCREWED if Miles is signed!!!” I see this as the Blazers simply trying to protect territory as they see fit.
In poker terms this is like defending your blind. You’re trying not to get pushed around. But that doesn’t mean if you lose this pot anyway you’re out of the tournament.
I doubt it will work, though.
—Dave
by Dave on Jan 9, 2009 12:12 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You and Mort show up within minutes of each other
You’re the same person, and you’re all actually KP, aren’t you?!
by Timmay! on Jan 9, 2009 12:14 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ben is Paul Allen
"When I have the ball, I experiment." #5
by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 9, 2009 12:43 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And I'm suing you for harrasment
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Jan 9, 2009 3:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This is very much real. Also reported on Yahoo
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Ap5rPz2HYLSwbMDzGcMDGba8vLYF?slug=aw-blazersthreat010809&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
by as11osu on Jan 8, 2009 9:57 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
wow, just wow
December 18, 2008.
"Roy is Roy, and if I were to bet my life on a game of 5-on-5, I’d bet on whichever team Roy was playing on." by HurraKane212
by maid tu rek on Jan 8, 2009 9:58 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
we come off as douchebags here
I hope this doesn’t keep other teams from trading with us.
Boomshakalaka
by jksnake99 on Jan 8, 2009 9:59 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
totally agree snake...it makes us look like whiners
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by broyposse on Jan 8, 2009 10:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
the spelling error was probably due to the GM who leaked it to the media...
my guess is Danny Ainge and he was re-typing the hand written letter…
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by broyposse on Jan 8, 2009 10:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't you mean copying it in crayon on a cocktail napkin?
Or maybe that was McHale…
"West just flipped Roy's switch to 'Hide the women and children'"
- tmundal, Nov 29, 2008 9:11 PM PST
by GustyJ on Jan 8, 2009 10:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
he asked Stephon Marbury to write it...
as part of his homework before joining the team
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by broyposse on Jan 8, 2009 10:05 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
dude, I don't think you're right about that
Because “perspective” as an adjective means “relating to or represented by perspective [noun]” it can refer to things being seen as perceiving things in relation. Which although not as germaine as the word “prospective,” does not make it wrong. It makes it different.
[I’m spelling ‘germaine’ wrong to bug you, it’s with a ‘mane.’
by rmcdougall on Jan 8, 2009 10:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
hahah..i can't help here...
english is not my first language or my second…so because it’s my third, i can live with the fact that these things don’t bother me. it’s all about tone…and the tone of this message is pretty clear…“we have a loaded shotguni, so don’t make a move.”
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by broyposse on Jan 8, 2009 10:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Perspective is correct
“Perspective” has to do with “relative”. If teams sign Miles to benefit from luxury tax, they are attempting to lessen the Blazers’ income and increase their own. They are interfering with the perspective income by attempting to redirect revenue from the Blazers (by hitting our luxury tax) to themselves.
If a luxury tax payer signs Miles, this statement probably doesn’t apply. If a luxury tax receiver signs him, it does.
If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President
by jscot on Jan 8, 2009 11:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i'm sure
that everything kp does is well calculated and thought out. so far we’ve seen moves that he has made and unreported moves (that ben has shared with us) that don’t seem too obvious at first, but with time they have all panned out. kp has always been a couple steps ahead in the game of chess. i dont know what hes trying to pull here…but theres gotta be something if hes showing his hand this early.
by Philthyanimal on Jan 8, 2009 10:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey jksnake99!!!!!!!!!
One of the things my 8 year old son and I share is our love of the Blazers and reading Blazers Edge. After reading your comment he asked me what a douchebag was. I’d appreciate it if you could provide the answer for him here at the Edge.
by fat27 on Jan 9, 2009 2:13 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What is your 8 year old son doing on the internet at 2am?
"When I have the ball, I experiment." #5
by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 9, 2009 2:29 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
and why would you want a stranger explaining to your kid what a douchebag is?
by BlazerD on Jan 9, 2009 2:31 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
hahahahaha
Fat27 is a giant hygienic irrigation device bag.
lulz. (and y is a kid up at 2:30)???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fj8DgWnbVng&feature=bz303
MVP *** MVP *** MVP
I've never scored more than 38 ..... not even in Little League.
by Portland89 on Jan 9, 2009 2:32 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
no name calling
not nice
December 18, 2008.
"Roy is Roy, and if I were to bet my life on a game of 5-on-5, I’d bet on whichever team Roy was playing on." by HurraKane212
by maid tu rek on Jan 9, 2009 2:37 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
just joking about the previous comments.
all in good fun mate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fj8DgWnbVng&feature=bz303
MVP *** MVP *** MVP
I've never scored more than 38 ..... not even in Little League.
by Portland89 on Jan 9, 2009 2:40 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
fat might not live in portland
thus we dont no wut time it iz where hes at
December 18, 2008.
"Roy is Roy, and if I were to bet my life on a game of 5-on-5, I’d bet on whichever team Roy was playing on." by HurraKane212
by maid tu rek on Jan 9, 2009 2:37 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You don't know where he is posting from.
Just because it clocks in at 2 AM PST, doesn’t mean it is 2 AM poster’s time.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Jan 9, 2009 3:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If he's 8 he should know what a d-bag is...
I mean, you haven’t sat him down for the douche bag talk yet?
Catalina-Wine-Mixer.
by ArbyOSU on Jan 9, 2009 9:02 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not worried about it.
We are tough, this is how KP and LM roll.
Roy To The World
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 8, 2009 10:03 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
+1
PEOPLE PEOPLE PEOPLE! What happened to “In KP We Trust?”
The Kings have the best bench I’ve seen. There are easily 14 guys on this team good enough for every bench in the league. Now if we could only get some starters, I’d totally jizz in my pants.
Kings fan
by dyshooter182 on Jan 8, 2009 10:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
we still trust him 100%...just giving our opinion of an unprecedented move by the Blazers...
to sue other NBA GMs…hahahah…that just sounds funny to me.
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by broyposse on Jan 8, 2009 10:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I understand
I’m not saying you can’t have opinions about this. Just doesn’t seem nearly as bad as others think it is.
The Kings have the best bench I’ve seen. There are easily 14 guys on this team good enough for every bench in the league. Now if we could only get some starters, I’d totally jizz in my pants.
Kings fan
by dyshooter182 on Jan 8, 2009 10:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This isn't a general managers statement
his boss wrote this
by LetsBlaze on Jan 8, 2009 10:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
paul wrote this?
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by broyposse on Jan 8, 2009 10:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep. This isn't a message from KP.
This is Larry Miller and Paul Allen, with KP fully in the loop, I’m sure.
I would not be surprised if the NBA front office was aware of this in advance.
by Timmay! on Jan 8, 2009 10:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I would be shocked if the NBA didn't know about this beforehand
KP has known that the preseason games counted for months. This course of action has been in their back pocket the entire time, which is why KP didn’t seem worried when the preseason games news broke yesterday as he already had this ready to go.
Nothing KP does is reactionary.
by tingeyga on Jan 8, 2009 11:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
I really don’t know how I feel about this? And I know it’s not about the $$$, esp. when you’re team owner is PA….and I know that PA probably isn’t behind this..but I can’t help but feel like a guy walking down the road, and I spot a 20 on the ground, and as I reach for it, Paul Allen steps on it, shouting, “Dibs!”
by Griff on Jan 8, 2009 10:04 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
It's like that, but not quite
It’s like you spotting a twenty, reaching for it, then having someone yell “Although I will not myself be taking that $20, I will club anyone who does.” The result would be a bunch of people circling around the $20 and just wishing they could have it, but not wanting to take on the guy with the club.
by rmcdougall on Jan 8, 2009 10:09 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
actually
It’s like telling somebody if you pick that $20 up it’s going to cost you $50
by nikolokolus on Jan 8, 2009 10:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Doubtful...
Any court costs incurred by this ridiculous threat would no doubt be paid by the Blazers when a right minded judge deems it all baseless conjecture.
Nocioni has an Olympic gold medal, a bronze medal and a EuroLeague MVP, and now… His legs are broken! Coming to an arena near you.
by Khalid El-Amin on Jan 9, 2009 12:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's precisely what a counter suit is for.
Nocioni has an Olympic gold medal, a bronze medal and a EuroLeague MVP, and now… His legs are broken! Coming to an arena near you.
by Khalid El-Amin on Jan 9, 2009 12:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The Blazers are being this bold it means two things
1. They are absolutely sure of their righteousness on this issue of Darius. They are medically backed up by a league approved doctor. They have had time to consider this threat and this is not an off the hip reaction.
2. Their IS a master plan and KP doesn’t want ANYBODY messing with it.
I actually like this threat. I must be an illiterate whiney dbag.
by tweener on Jan 8, 2009 10:04 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
yeah, that's the intense part...
we’re not backing down…i hope the players read this.
even though it doesn’t come across quite right…hahahaha
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by broyposse on Jan 8, 2009 10:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i think
that if 1 is true…he wouldnt really say anything and just sue when a team decided to play them…theres gotta be a reason he is showing his hand so early. 2 seems more likely…especially with kps track record. it seems like he is creating a distraction to hide his true intent.
by Philthyanimal on Jan 8, 2009 10:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If the Blazers have such a good case.....
why didn’t they sue Boston or Memphis for signing Miles in the first place? This is smoke, mirrors and intimidation from Paul. No lawsuit will ever be filed.
by fat27 on Jan 9, 2009 2:21 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They didn't sue Boston or Memphis
Because those teams made good faith efforts that they wanted Miles for his basketball skill and not for his ability to hurt Portland’s cap space and/or put Portland over the luxury tax threshold. Boston playing Miles 6 times in the preseason and Memphis signing him and having him serve a suspension seem like reasonable actions if you think that a player will help you.
Now with Miles sitting 2 games away from messing with the Blazers, any team could sign him to a 10-day contract, play him twice and pocket the Blazers luxury tax payment. That is an action designed solely to harm another franchise and enrich your pocketbook.
by tingeyga on Jan 9, 2009 2:28 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Let's just stop talking about it, and maybe it won't blow up nationally tomorrow.
by TheTinfoil on Jan 8, 2009 10:04 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Oh it's gonna blow up.
And I can’t wait!
Roy To The World
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 8, 2009 10:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And maybe Travis won't launch an ill-advised fadeaway 17-footer on Saturday, too
"West just flipped Roy's switch to 'Hide the women and children'"
- tmundal, Nov 29, 2008 9:11 PM PST
by GustyJ on Jan 8, 2009 10:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
highly unlikely
Roy To The World
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 8, 2009 10:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
but he'll launch a 7 footer FTW!!!
i love trout.
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by broyposse on Jan 8, 2009 10:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, I didn't say Travis wouldn't MAKE the shot
But I do know that we’ll all be yelling “Travis, NO!” when he puts it up
"West just flipped Roy's switch to 'Hide the women and children'"
- tmundal, Nov 29, 2008 9:11 PM PST
by GustyJ on Jan 8, 2009 10:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i know
his go to move:
run into a pack of defenders, jump, turn in the air and throw it up.
never once have i seen him plant before he shoots.
always the running fadeaway…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fj8DgWnbVng&feature=bz303
MVP *** MVP *** MVP
I've never scored more than 38 ..... not even in Little League.
by Portland89 on Jan 9, 2009 2:39 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Can you plagiarize yourself?
I don’t think it’s immoral or anything, but it was kinda jarring when I found myself reading something he had written the day before.
From Adrian Wojnarowski’s article last night:
ny team in the NBA simply can sign Miles to a 10-day contract, play him twice and punch out one of the summer’s top free-agent destinations.
From his article today, that we’re referencing:
Any team in the NBA can sign Miles to a 10-day contract, play him twice and punch out one of the summer’s top free-agent destinations.
by rmcdougall on Jan 8, 2009 10:15 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Plagiarism? No.
Laziness? Perhaps.
"West just flipped Roy's switch to 'Hide the women and children'"
- tmundal, Nov 29, 2008 9:11 PM PST
by GustyJ on Jan 8, 2009 10:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
plagiarism
C’mon! When you’ve gone to all the trouble to think up an expression as apt and original as “punch out” it’s just a waste to use it only once. It’s solid pulitzer!
by cantdunk on Jan 8, 2009 10:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Punch out didn’t really make sense the first time, which is why I thought of it the second time.
Abbot and Dave both said that Miles going on our books DOESN’T punch/knock/kick us out of anything. So he’s lazy, bad at thinking word-choice, and wrong?
Note: I actually don’t think he’s a bad writer, just laughing at how this one sentence has looked out of context.
by rmcdougall on Jan 9, 2009 12:04 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I asked my teacher that one time
she said it’s impossible to plagarize yourself, but I thought it was pretty tacky.
"Man with 1 chopstick go hungry." ~W.P.
by prezofdeath on Jan 9, 2009 12:48 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
In Happier News
The Clippers signed Freddy to a 10 day deal.
by TheTinfoil on Jan 8, 2009 10:17 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Not happy for Freddy
He’s still with the Clippers
"West just flipped Roy's switch to 'Hide the women and children'"
- tmundal, Nov 29, 2008 9:11 PM PST
by GustyJ on Jan 8, 2009 10:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
hahahahahahaha
yes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fj8DgWnbVng&feature=bz303
MVP *** MVP *** MVP
I've never scored more than 38 ..... not even in Little League.
by Portland89 on Jan 9, 2009 2:35 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The did beat us though.
Ugh!
My favorite teams are the Blazers and any team that is playing the Lakers.
by OCBlazerFan1 on Jan 9, 2009 11:20 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There are at least two errors
“Tortuously interfering” should be “tortiously interfering.”
I have to wonder whether this letter is illegal in itself. Miles could argue that the team is tortiously interfering with his ability to sign with another team. Seems like a dumb move.
by Kaboomm on Jan 8, 2009 10:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Are you guys serious?
Douchebags, Embaresses, Fake, just some of the words i read about the press release. Really? i mean come on people, we have other teams wanting to sign a guy not to help there team but to ONLY hurt us. Let me just say that again loud and clear, TO HURT US. I was frankly angry when i heard other teams were most likely going to sign Miles to a 10 day simply to mess with our cap space. Keep in mind we did our due diligence and made the best, and most informed decision on Darius. We did things the right way, PERIOD. I have no problem losing to any other team in the league due to fair play and sportsmanship because lets not forget that is the essence of sports. rmccdougall just posted something re-enforcing what i am saying, GOOD call man. We have the richest owner in the league and if he says “look mess with us and we’ll mess with you back” i see nothing wrong with it and further more i am glad our owner cares so much. I think it is extremly bad form to conduct and organization this way.
by blazerbeliever97504 on Jan 8, 2009 10:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
amen
Its not that we are trying to hinder Miles ability to play, we are just protecting ourselves against teams deliberately looking to hurt us for their benefit.
Miles is almost an after thought in all of this, he is just a dollar sign to these teams.
Roy To The World
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 8, 2009 10:21 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
sorta
i think we are trying to hinder miles ability to play…which is why him suing us was brought up…but yes we are protecting ourselves as well. if what the other nba teams did warranted a lawsuit…why not just sue them then? why make the threat? i think there is more to this.
by Philthyanimal on Jan 8, 2009 10:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Obviously, the Blazers are hoping that the threat if litigation will keep teams from signing Miles
The Blazers don’t want to sue; they want to protect their cap space.
If another team has real interest in DM as a player on the court, fine. If somebody is just trying to play him for a couple of games so they can screw the Blazers and collect a little luxury tax, then not fine.
I am not a lawyer and am not sure of how strong the Blazers legal position is on this matter, but I do know that the threat of litigation implies lots of hassle and potentially substantial amounts of legal fees. Obviously Paul Allen has deeper pockets than most. I hope this gambit works.
by upper left corner on Jan 9, 2009 1:57 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
some teams could sign him because they think he can play...not all GMs are smart....
remember, a few GMs (other than Ainge) and scouts said Miles still had game when they saw him over the summer. so a 10 day contract is worth the risk to a lot of bad teams looking for some help.
i think some of us are saying that we would just go about it a different way…i personally would wait until it actually happens then take it up with the Leauge and CBA…because it was a LEAGUE doctor that declared it a career-ending injury.
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by broyposse on Jan 8, 2009 10:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I get your point....
but why not nip the issue in the bud?
by blazerbeliever97504 on Jan 8, 2009 10:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
but how can you prove one is malicious and one GM really wanting to give him a shot?
just play your cards after it happens
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by broyposse on Jan 8, 2009 10:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Totally disagree.
Your missing the point.
The Blazers don’t want to sue, they want to intimidate teams into not signing DM unless they have real interest in his skills on the court.
Taking action after they have lost the cap space is too late.
by upper left corner on Jan 9, 2009 2:00 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
we don't know what point they are trying to make.........
we don’t know if it’s too late if they take it up to the league after he gets 10 games in and we don’t know if they are trying to intimidate…
for all we know, this could have already been discussed with the league and Stern….
so i’m not sure it’s valid for you to tell others they are missing the point when we are all speculating…
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by broyposse on Jan 9, 2009 8:19 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not saying it wasn't the right move by the Blazers
I’m just saying I wonder if other teams will want to deal with us after this.
Boomshakalaka
by jksnake99 on Jan 8, 2009 10:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i think they will
its a business. this sorta stuff happens in business. its a dog-eat-dog world out there…
Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.
by aryamehr on Jan 8, 2009 10:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
if I were some other team
I’d sign Darius as a big eff-you for this, and I’m quite certain that my ego’s microscopic compared to the gents running the average NBA show. The reptilian part of my brain is diggin’ it, but that pesky frontal cortex keeps sayin’ “Gee, I dunno about this…”
by BlazersOrBust on Jan 8, 2009 10:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
then KP
would sue you…surely nba owner are feeling the pinch from the recession.
by Philthyanimal on Jan 8, 2009 10:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Have you seen the cost of litigation lately?
These other owners with few exceptions are sabatoguing their own teams to stay under the luxury tax. They save what, $3-5M? Vulcan’s money can make them poor in a hurry and as OKC, as well as the MSG dunderheads discovered to their dismay, the discovery process looks at every phone call and every email and every memo and takes depositions from key personnel. If even one of those has said a word of sticking it to the Blazers he personally will be in bankruptcy court soon.
Want to pick a fight with a guy? Better know about his big brother who will pound you. This is not about ego. It is pure and simple survival. What team in the NBA has not talked about hoping we lose our cap space? My guess is none.
whoo, Katy bar the door! - Maurice Lucas anticipating Greg Oden's development
by lee3022 on Jan 8, 2009 11:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
excellent post.....
lee3022. Right on the money!
by fat27 on Jan 9, 2009 2:31 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, i agree
those teams are douchebags.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fj8DgWnbVng&feature=bz303
MVP *** MVP *** MVP
I've never scored more than 38 ..... not even in Little League.
by Portland89 on Jan 9, 2009 2:38 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
really?
thats not nessassary
December 18, 2008.
"Roy is Roy, and if I were to bet my life on a game of 5-on-5, I’d bet on whichever team Roy was playing on." by HurraKane212
by maid tu rek on Jan 9, 2009 2:39 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Embarrassed
Okay, I’m going to stop correcting stuff now. (It’s not just a habit, it’s actually my job.)
by Kaboomm on Jan 8, 2009 10:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Kaboom
Last sentence should have read: …..Bad form to conduct “ANY” organization……. LOL :-D
by blazerbeliever97504 on Jan 8, 2009 10:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
If you'll excuse me, ...
I have to go and correct every single post by Maid Tu Rek now. Seeya.
by Kaboomm on Jan 8, 2009 10:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
mwahahahahahaaaa
December 18, 2008.
"Roy is Roy, and if I were to bet my life on a game of 5-on-5, I’d bet on whichever team Roy was playing on." by HurraKane212
by maid tu rek on Jan 8, 2009 10:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Thats better than when MTR misspelled REC.
by Philthyanimal on Jan 8, 2009 11:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This is the right thing to do
The blazer have the right to protect them selfs from some jack asses that would only sign a player to screw over the blazers. I am very dissapointed with some of the Blazer Edge memebers who are incapable of seeing what this really is, this is NOT a threat agianst signing Darius, this is a threat against signing him with the sole purpose of hurting the blazers.
Also look at this from Darius side, how would it be fair to Darius if a team were to sign him with the sole purpose of hurting the Blazers. Darius would not be givin an opportunity to show he can actually still play, he would just be treated like a piece of meat, then after completing his two games thrown out. All this does is tell teams that if your gonna sign Darius it better be becasue you think he can still play, not just to screw the blazers!
by ggassen85 on Jan 8, 2009 10:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
What I wanna know
is how the suits at One Center Court are planning on differentiating between a team that legitimately wants to sign Darius because they see something in him and one that wants to put the screws to the Blazers. Sue them all and let the judge sort it out! — the 19th century aphorism updated for today.
by BlazersOrBust on Jan 8, 2009 10:26 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
good point. love the reference to suits....Entourage is awesome.
"Step up to my mic!!!" Joel's right and left fist
by broyposse on Jan 8, 2009 10:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If Miles plays lotsa minutes
the Blazers probably have little case.
If Miles makes two appearances in garbage time, then vanishes, the Blazers may well have a case.
by EngineerScotty on Jan 8, 2009 10:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i think
teams doing what you described violates the essence of the rule. thats why it feels so wrong.
by Philthyanimal on Jan 8, 2009 10:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
but it fits the letter of the law
and thats whut other teams are looking at. u take advantage where u kan
December 18, 2008.
"Roy is Roy, and if I were to bet my life on a game of 5-on-5, I’d bet on whichever team Roy was playing on." by HurraKane212
by maid tu rek on Jan 8, 2009 10:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah kidna like memphs did
ths was proactive and appropriate
by LetsBlaze on Jan 8, 2009 10:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think so Scotty
The existence of any conversation in their organization about hoping the Blazers lose their cap space (isn’t that everyone?) would be enough to negate any subsequent play. It is not about performance. It is about intent.
whoo, Katy bar the door! - Maurice Lucas anticipating Greg Oden's development
by lee3022 on Jan 8, 2009 11:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS!
It’s ballsy. It’s butch. It’s studly. KP showing the rest of the NBA that you come across us, try to come in our neighborhood, you die. It’s obvious that DMiles’ money is important to Pritch, so instead of Pritch Slapping the NBA on Draft Day, he’s about to Pritch-Litigate anybody who dares mess with him or his master plan.
OH I love Kevin Pritchard. I’m a man, but I’m willing to carry his child one day.
Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.
by aryamehr on Jan 8, 2009 10:26 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
i thought you were about to say...I'm a man...come after me...
by broyposse on Jan 8, 2009 10:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkKch-CAlgM
forgot the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkKch-CAlgM
"Step up to my mic!!!" Joel's right and left fist
by broyposse on Jan 8, 2009 10:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
People suck
at linking lately ;)
Roy To The World
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 8, 2009 10:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
seriously...i'm about to send a threat to SBNation...pritch-litigate those fools
"Step up to my mic!!!" Joel's right and left fist
by broyposse on Jan 8, 2009 10:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Beat me to the reference
Although it wasn’t too long ago that we were talking about Darius being FAT!
"West just flipped Roy's switch to 'Hide the women and children'"
- tmundal, Nov 29, 2008 9:11 PM PST
by GustyJ on Jan 8, 2009 10:31 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
hahahahaha
ahhh mike gundy
Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.
by aryamehr on Jan 8, 2009 10:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
one of the comments was
“Now thats a coach I’d play for.” lol couldnt agree more
December 18, 2008.
"Roy is Roy, and if I were to bet my life on a game of 5-on-5, I’d bet on whichever team Roy was playing on." by HurraKane212
by maid tu rek on Jan 8, 2009 10:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
hahahaha
me too! I wanted to post “are you 40?” but thought nobody would get it.
by BlazersOrBust on Jan 8, 2009 10:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn´t. Links help me.
Sergio + Rudy = 16
Sergio + Bayless = 16
Batum 8+8=16
by amlmart1 on Jan 9, 2009 1:50 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Timmay! and I get things
Roy To The World
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 8, 2009 10:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Clearly.
Community as big as this one, I shouldn’t even worry about people not getting my free association. I’ll just throw it out there and SOMEBODY among the masses will have had a similar thought.
by BlazersOrBust on Jan 8, 2009 10:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
huh? that's the basis of my response...hahahah
"Step up to my mic!!!" Joel's right and left fist
by broyposse on Jan 8, 2009 10:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
hey the fact that you guys got that reference
without me evening meaning to make that reference, is good enough for me.
im still laughing my ass off about that video. perfect timing broyposse
Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.
by aryamehr on Jan 8, 2009 10:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think we're all a lot more perceptive than we think we are
We shouldn’t bedowngrade each other
"West just flipped Roy's switch to 'Hide the women and children'"
- tmundal, Nov 29, 2008 9:11 PM PST
by GustyJ on Jan 8, 2009 10:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
bedowngrade?
is that like daScripclubs?
"Step up to my mic!!!" Joel's right and left fist
by broyposse on Jan 8, 2009 10:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
guys stop fighting
Roy To The World
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 8, 2009 10:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i'm getting into KP form...threatening all other members!
"Step up to my mic!!!" Joel's right and left fist
by broyposse on Jan 8, 2009 10:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
threats are cool
Roy To The World
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 8, 2009 10:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I know
I just thought that nobody was gonna get it, so I didn’t, and then YOU posted it and like six different people were like “Oh that’s just what I was thinking!”So I was remarking that it was funny that I thought nobody was gonna get it and everybody did. That’s all.
by BlazersOrBust on Jan 8, 2009 10:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i know..hahah..i was trying to be doubly-funny after everyone jumped on it.
"Step up to my mic!!!" Joel's right and left fist
by broyposse on Jan 8, 2009 10:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We're all hilarious!
Case closed.
by BlazersOrBust on Jan 8, 2009 10:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I ABSOLUTELY HATE THIS
This is like Portland acting like the Yankees or Celtics (throw in whatever douchbag team you hate)…. The Blazers are now douchbags instead of the Jail Blazers, nice.
"Hightide was the only "Yes" vote" - parkinglotj
Joel Freeland=Stud
by hightide on Jan 8, 2009 11:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This has nothing to do with the actual Blazers
Calm down. Its a front office deal. The Blazers are not douchbags.
"When I have the ball, I experiment." #5
by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 8, 2009 11:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Plus i love the big lebowski refence
by blazerbeliever97504 on Jan 8, 2009 10:29 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
There might be even a deeper strategy
I could foresee this happening:
- Team X signs Miles
- Blazers file complaint with the league
- Blazers file lawsuit if necessary
- NBA decides to resolve the dispute by changing the rule or granting Portland an exemption. Lawsuit goes away.
This would be only right because Miles was waived a long time ago in good faith, and if he’s playing for another team he shouldn’t be a Portland salary. So maybe the PTB are angling for that kind of a resolution.
by Kaboomm on Jan 8, 2009 10:30 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
i can see that
i think this is some kinda distraction only to draw attention away from the real purpose.
by Philthyanimal on Jan 8, 2009 10:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree with that line of thinking
Miller and KP are laying the groundwork for the NBA to want this to go away quickly and easily should Miles play 2 more games and the $9 million disappear. I don’t know if this is the best way to go about it, but it’s certainly the most direct.
Bayless has been testing the fences for weaknesses
by blazeraddict on Jan 8, 2009 11:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow.
It’s all about to break loose.
I rarely say this, but I look forward to Jason Quick’s inevitable article tomorrow.
Like a few others, I wonder how this affects KP’s relationship with other GM’s for trade purposes. Sure, it’s all business, but it’s a very small club they’re a member of.
If he plans to sign a free agent… well then this will have blown over before he starts trading again anyway.
by Timmay! on Jan 8, 2009 10:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I doubt that it makes much of a difference
Have you read “Moneyball”? There is an entire chapter in that book about how Billy Beane (the KP of baseball) works his trade magic and paints a picture of how Billy totally bamboozles other GMs. The trading chapter includes this paragraph:
[Steve] Phillips, like every other GM who has just received a call from Billy Beane assumes there must be some angle he isn’t seeing. He asks why Billy sent Venafro down to Triple-A. He’s worried about Venafro’s health. He wonders why Billy is now asking for money too.
If Billy Bean can have a book written where large portions are dedicated to showing how he is smarter than everyone else in baseball and him making other GMs foolish and can still years after the book was first published make the same type of trades (dealing with GMs who must have read Moneyball themselves) to keep his team competitive, I have no doubt that KP will be able to make the trades with clubs that have been threatened with legal action.
by tingeyga on Jan 8, 2009 11:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Funny enough, I'd just been sitting here thinking,
“You know what? On second thought, this won’t stop a GM from making a trade with him tomorrow. If he thinks it helps the team, it’ll override any external conflict”
Nice timing. I agree.
by Timmay! on Jan 8, 2009 11:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They're basically
Informing the league not to sign Darius to screw over their cap or to put them back on the luxury tax for their own game (each team will get 250-300k if Darius goes back on our books because we’ll go over the luxury tax). They’re not saying don’t sign Darius and play him – they’re saying don’t sign Darius to a ten day contract, play him two games for a total of one minute, then waive him or we’ll know you’re trying to screw us and sue you.
I think when Portland saw that “Portland is screwed” quote from an executive where it is openly being implied that teams will screw Portland intentionally and not try to get Miles his career back that they decided that okay, we can play this way too.
by TSE on Jan 8, 2009 10:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
we are already over the salary cap
by Philthyanimal on Jan 8, 2009 10:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It is not about performance - it is about intent
And every NBA team has discussed hopes that the Blazers get shafted. That will prove intent regardless of performance.
whoo, Katy bar the door! - Maurice Lucas anticipating Greg Oden's development
by lee3022 on Jan 8, 2009 11:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, this so-called warning makes the Portland Trail Blazers' front office personnel seem like whiny, ...
vindictive punks. If I was a front office executive for an opposing franchise, I’d gladly call the Blazers’ bluff after reading this balderdash. On the other hand, though, I nevertheless respect owner Paul Allen, President Larry Miller, CFO Gregg Olsen, General Counsel Mike Fennell, and GM Kevin Pritchard’s steadfast position on this issue; that’s ’cause financial resources means everything to everybody.
All things considered, this whole debacle is very intriguing from a multitude of perspectives. It’ll be interesting to watch everything play out one way or another.
by AK1984 on Jan 8, 2009 10:35 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Do you have a
50-cent word quota that you strive to meet for each post? I mean no offense — I’m just being jocular. ;)
by BlazersOrBust on Jan 8, 2009 10:38 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
JOCULAR
color me impressed. awesome word. this thread is awesome. EVERYTHING IS AWESOME!
Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.
by aryamehr on Jan 8, 2009 10:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh well, I at least avoid using pretentious silver dollar words.
Jocular, by the way is a sweet term, although I might’ve used blithe there.
All kidding aside, though, I try to mix it up by using sporadically using fancy terms.
by AK1984 on Jan 8, 2009 11:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
HAHA REC. only because YOU are calling the Ptb front office of being "whiny vindictive punks"
I also agree that this is interesting and dramatic and I love drama…
Sophia
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
by BlazerFan1 on Jan 8, 2009 10:39 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
an italian woman that loves drama? first i heard of that.
"Step up to my mic!!!" Joel's right and left fist
by broyposse on Jan 8, 2009 10:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
rec cause your comment made me lol
actually cause it made me SIMAF
which stands for smile in mildly amused fashion
by tevisthe4th on Jan 9, 2009 12:13 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If you called that "bluff"
you would be a fool. An absolute fool.
These are not independent entities, they are franchises of the NBA. It is a violation of their agreement to screw each other over financially.
You would lose that case in spades.
If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President
by jscot on Jan 8, 2009 11:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes that quote was bull,
plain bull-crap. That may be the catalyst to the “press” release
by blazerbeliever97504 on Jan 8, 2009 10:35 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Anyone waiting for the NBA Players Association's response?
That should make for interesting reading tomorrow.
by Timmay! on Jan 8, 2009 10:40 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
im not worried about their response...
cuz i know KP will simply Pritch-Litigate them to the depths of hell!
Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.
by aryamehr on Jan 8, 2009 10:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
For once,
the league and the union are going to be together on something.
by wepto on Jan 8, 2009 10:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They will shut down our whole operation.
dang.
Roy To The World
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 8, 2009 10:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt it
The league probably wants to have Portland in play as a FA destination; the value of that will well exceed the value of any minimum-salary 10-day contract Miles might get.
Remember, Darius is getting paid his full Portland salary; just by an insurance company rather than by the Blazers.
by EngineerScotty on Jan 8, 2009 10:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
not that it matters
but insurance pays 80 percent i believe.
by Philthyanimal on Jan 8, 2009 10:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think KP and Darius are in cahoots
This is just a little too dramatic… but… DRAM-ON KP DRAM-ON!
Roy To The World
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 8, 2009 10:42 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Let me try to be respectfull
I could not disagree with y ou more AK1984………..Sophia agreeing is also surpising since i generally agree with what you post, Sophia. I cant believe people don’t see why we are doing this. My post above and sub-sequent post agreeing with are a very valid point and to call our execs “punks” is just disapointing. this being the same bunch of execs who put together our team we are so proud of. I mean no hard feelings i just could not dis agree with you two more.
by blazerbeliever97504 on Jan 8, 2009 10:44 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I was simply agreeing that this would be fun to watch play out... I dont agree that are front office are a bunch of punks
I’m not totally down with the method but I’m in firm belief that the Blazers have the right to protect theirs which is essentially what they are doing at this point.
Damn Larry Miller is such a G.
Sophia
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
by BlazerFan1 on Jan 8, 2009 10:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
that are to be that "our"
Sophia
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
by BlazerFan1 on Jan 8, 2009 10:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No matter my use of the term "punks," Portland's front office should've used a bit of discretion here.
Rather than air their dirty laundry via a press release, it’s best to keep potential legal matters such as this behind closed doors. Also, the threatening tone expressed within the message probably won’t sit too well with organizations throughout the league.
by AK1984 on Jan 8, 2009 11:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They didn't issue a press release
Another GM leaked the letter to the press
by EngineerScotty on Jan 8, 2009 11:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Still, it's definitely not savvy for the team president to issue such a contentious press release.
by AK1984 on Jan 8, 2009 11:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't mean to write "press release," for you're right that it was intended to be a private ...
correspondence among NBA franchises. Either way, though, Larry Miller should’ve considered that it could easily be leaked to the media—which is exactly what happened in this case.
by AK1984 on Jan 8, 2009 11:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He prolly knew that would happen
In fact, I’m sure they knew it would happen and probably didn’t care.
It’s out, they don’t want anyone to mess with it, they peed all over the situation to mark it their own.
MALE DOMINANCE.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Jan 8, 2009 11:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
see my post for the legal "why"
there is good reason to do this.
Blazer's fan since '84, Currently exiled in San Antonio
↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → B A
by HurraKane212 on Jan 8, 2009 11:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I bet LM put different misspellings in each copy of the letter
so he’ll know who to sic Rex on for leaking it.
by pualo on Jan 9, 2009 1:26 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
now THAT, would be genious
December 18, 2008.
"Roy is Roy, and if I were to bet my life on a game of 5-on-5, I’d bet on whichever team Roy was playing on." by HurraKane212
by maid tu rek on Jan 9, 2009 2:17 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Do you really think you are a better judge of what action to take ...
… than Larry Miller, who before running the Blazer’s was a major executive at Nike, responsible for a multi-billion dollar business line?
Who probably is better informed on the specifics of this issue?
Blazer management
or
AK1984
I think it’s probably a fair statement that low self esteem is not an issue for you. Being delusional, maybe, but not lacking in self esteem.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Jan 9, 2009 4:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Who probably is better informed on the specifics of this issue?
Blazer management
or
AK1984
Oh, chasquido.
by Timmay! on Jan 9, 2009 5:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That
and the NBA PA/Daruius claims that will follow, this may be more trouble than it’s worth, as important as that extra space was.
Bayless has been testing the fences for weaknesses
by blazeraddict on Jan 8, 2009 11:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow,
this is kinda like a game day thread.
4 or 5 posts a minute.
by parkinglotj on Jan 8, 2009 10:44 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
lol, its blowing up huge
its hard to keep up
December 18, 2008.
"Roy is Roy, and if I were to bet my life on a game of 5-on-5, I’d bet on whichever team Roy was playing on." by HurraKane212
by maid tu rek on Jan 8, 2009 10:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah, this may break a fanpost comment record by tomorrow
Unless there’s a front page post that goes up shortly.
This is such an unheard-of situation, and a crazy news story, that it’s going to get a huge buzz and lots of talk tonight. It’s going to divide the fanbase too, always a reason for lots of posts.
by Timmay! on Jan 8, 2009 10:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
lol this is pretty exciting
we blazer fans jump at this stuff like hyenas
Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.
by aryamehr on Jan 8, 2009 10:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i'll start the first division. this is a threat to you timmay!
"Step up to my mic!!!" Joel's right and left fist
by broyposse on Jan 8, 2009 10:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't mess with me!
If you mess with me for purposes of gaining additional luxury tax income, I’ll talk to my lawyers!
by Timmay! on Jan 8, 2009 10:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This will not stand, you know
This aggression will not STAND, man.
by BlazersOrBust on Jan 8, 2009 10:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The Miles Conspiracy is nuts. I hope the Blazers get their everloving asses sued off by Darius Miles...
Beyond nuts.
t
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
by timbo on Jan 8, 2009 10:46 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
You tell me this is not beyond nuts...;
"The Portland Trail Blazers are aware that certain teams may be contemplating signing Darius Miles to a contract for the purpose of adversely impacting the Portland Trail Blazers Salary Cap and tax positions," Blazers president Larry Miller wrote in the email to representatives of every NBA team. "Such conduct by a team would violate its fiduciary duty as an NBA joint venturer. In addition, persons or entities involved in such conduct may be individually liable to the Portland Trail Blazers for tortuously interfering with the Portland Trail Blazers contract rights and perspective economic opportunities.
"Please be aware that if a team engages in such conduct, the Portland Trail Blazers will take all necessary steps to safeguard its rights, including, without limitation, litigation."
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
by timbo on Jan 8, 2009 10:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's actually quite logical.
How do you not see that being so knowledgeable?
Roy To The World
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 8, 2009 10:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They are legally protecting themselves from shady behavior or callusion
Roy To The World
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 8, 2009 10:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They are engaging in a conspiracy to deny Darius Miles' RIGHT TO WORK.
Are there NO ATTORNEYS that work for the Blazers? This is BEYOND IDIOTIC…
ISAIAH LIVES!!!!!!!!
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
by timbo on Jan 8, 2009 10:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There are plenty!
It’s not at all like they suddenly decided to go out of their ways and put themselves out there like this.
This is why they are where they are, and you are posting here.
Roy To The World
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 8, 2009 10:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, lay off the personal attacks. You don't know me.
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
by timbo on Jan 8, 2009 10:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Flagged!
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
by timbo on Jan 8, 2009 10:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sorry if you feel attacked
But its the truth. It’s why I’m here as well. They know what they are doing, and you don’t know much about it, nor do any of us. So don’t call for people’s jobs.
Roy To The World
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 8, 2009 10:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just flipping it back to ya, I have a thick skin.
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
by timbo on Jan 8, 2009 10:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Your claim that he will be fired by 8am
Is just plain Ludacris, as if he is acting on his own free will going being the back of his boss, and the entire organization.
Just cause his name is at the bottom of the email, doesn’t mean he was the only one who worked on it.
Roy To The World
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 8, 2009 10:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I'm sure this is team policy, not a goofball freelancing operation. I'm also sure this is like a quadruple scoop banana split for Darius MIles in the long run...
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
by timbo on Jan 8, 2009 11:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't be obtuse
if you can help it.
They didn’t threaten people for hiring Darius. They threatened people for hiring him for the purpose of screwing the Blazers.
And they have all the legal cover in the world because there were reports in the press that one NBA exec said it was going to happen.
They are saying, “This report is going around, if you do it, we’ll sue you.” They have every right to do that.
If Darius signs and plays legit minutes for someone, this is an irrelevance. If Darius signs and plays two games for someone in garbage time, there will be a lawsuit.
Book it.
If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President
by jscot on Jan 8, 2009 11:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
nice breakdown
I agree. If you screw us, we will come after you. That’s all they’re saying.
by Cablinasian on Jan 8, 2009 11:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He has a valid point
The Blazers action could EASILY be seen as adversely impacting Miles ability to earn a living as an NBA player. We’re all fans, we all wanted that cap room, most of us thought it sucked royally that 30 seconds over 2 more games could screw that up. But Timbo isn’t saying anything out of line, and be honest, if this were Aaron McKie (another injury case) and the L*ckers had issued a letter like this, a lot of people would be SCREAMING for KP to screw them over and sign him for 10 days/2 games
Bayless has been testing the fences for weaknesses
by blazeraddict on Jan 8, 2009 11:36 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
lol, yeah, ur prolly righht
December 18, 2008.
"Roy is Roy, and if I were to bet my life on a game of 5-on-5, I’d bet on whichever team Roy was playing on." by HurraKane212
by maid tu rek on Jan 8, 2009 11:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yup
the blazers were too dumb to consult with a single attorney before issuing this memo. vaya comentario, tio.
by BlazersOrBust on Jan 8, 2009 10:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No competent attorney would have told them this is a good idea.
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
by timbo on Jan 8, 2009 10:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They are DAMAGING DARIUS MILES with this.
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
by timbo on Jan 8, 2009 10:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
just wondering, no sarcasm
are you in the legal field?
by Cablinasian on Jan 8, 2009 10:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No, but I invite ALL ATTORNEYS READING THIS THREAD TO CHIME IN whether they think this is a master stroke or the work of someone who has suffered a stroke...
I’ll put my stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night up against Larry Miller’s and that of the Blazers’ brain trust…
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
by timbo on Jan 8, 2009 11:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Gamblers are fools
and you would be a big one to make any bets on this topic.
If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President
by jscot on Jan 8, 2009 11:36 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
wow, Timbo
are you a legal scholar?
I absolutely understand how you see this as unethical treatment towards Miles… and I partially agree— but your above statement seems undefended and out of the blue.
Boomshakalaka
by jksnake99 on Jan 8, 2009 10:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Just a guy who avoids litigation like the plague and knows what NOT to do!
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
by timbo on Jan 8, 2009 11:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
In that case you meet one qualification to be an attorney...
… as at least half of the ones I’ve worked with tend to be very risk adverse.
The good ones are the ones who know how to identify and help quantify the risk, in order that their client or employer can make the best decision when evaluating risk verses reward. Not not as good ones tend to concentrate on avoiding litigation.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Jan 9, 2009 4:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I had a professor
who was involved in a lawsuit against a bar recently. The bar unknowingly sold drinks to a kid with a fake ID, who proceeded to climb into his car totally loaded and kill himself and three others in a car accident.
My professor got the bar to be held accountable for all damages, punitive and compensatory, resultant from the lawsuits of both the involved families. The legal system is CRAZY. “No competent attorney” just doesn’t fly. The more competent you are, the more half-cocked your lawsuits can be and still be successful.
by BlazersOrBust on Jan 8, 2009 11:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
man, that sucks...
below comment is to timbo, not you btw.
Blazer's fan since '84, Currently exiled in San Antonio
↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → B A
by HurraKane212 on Jan 8, 2009 11:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
it depends
don’t make this assumption until you’ve had some legal experience k?
Blazer's fan since '84, Currently exiled in San Antonio
↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → B A
by HurraKane212 on Jan 8, 2009 11:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
A competent attorney may have thought it was a bad idea
But a super-amazing lawyer, of whom the Blazers certainly have several in their Rolodex, would be as litigious as possible to defend the cap space.
by tingeyga on Jan 9, 2009 12:02 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Are you offering this opinion as a competent attorney?
Or even an incompetent one?
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Jan 9, 2009 4:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i wanna give
kp the benefit of the doubt and say this was a calculated move….
by Philthyanimal on Jan 8, 2009 11:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, the Portland Trail Blazers do have general counsel.
It does appear that he’s asleep at the wheel tonight, though.
by AK1984 on Jan 8, 2009 11:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
are you a legal scholar?
While I agree the Blazers come off as jerks here, its not exactly unusual for attorneys to be both jerks and successful.
Boomshakalaka
by jksnake99 on Jan 8, 2009 11:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
AK doesn't know what he's talking about
don’t mind him
by Bust a Bucket on Jan 8, 2009 11:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Certainly, I was being flippant with my "he's asleep at the wheel" remark.
I, too, am not a legal scholar, but that doesn’t mean I’m incorrect about how the team employes someone as its general counsel (i.e., Mike Fennell). As it is, Fennell should’ve undoubtedly been consulted in length by Paul Allen before Larry Miller sent this letter out across the league
by AK1984 on Jan 9, 2009 12:21 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm the furthest thing from a legal scholar.
Also, you’re last sentence is right on the spot.
by AK1984 on Jan 9, 2009 12:12 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
booooooooo
now why would you go on and say somethin’ like that, huh?
Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.
by aryamehr on Jan 8, 2009 10:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If Larry Miller isn't fired by 8 am tomorrow morning, with apologies to Miles, get that checkbook ready, Mr. Allen...
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
by timbo on Jan 8, 2009 10:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
BS
Are you that out of it? You honestly think there is anyway on Gods green earth this was not passed along between the Blazer brass before being sent out. Cmon
Roy To The World
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 8, 2009 10:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
this seems like way too big of a deal and too taboo of a subject to have it be an uncalculated move…i understand that miles may have grounds to file a suit…but i think thats small potatoes compared to the big picture.
by Philthyanimal on Jan 8, 2009 11:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
come on timbo, you don't really believe that...
The inbound to McGinnis, drives, stops, pumps, shoots, short, no good...AND THE GAME IS OVER! ~ Bill Schonely
by SandbergOnSports on Jan 8, 2009 10:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Mark my words.
Or flag them, if your name Is Outlaw is Rejector, I don’t care.
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
by timbo on Jan 8, 2009 10:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ha, it's not like I really flagged you.
Flag is the new Rec, you didn’t get the memo?
But seriously, you are way off base here.
Roy To The World
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 8, 2009 10:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nor did I you. But seriously, folks -- this is Isaiah-caliber Front Office Lunacy....
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
by timbo on Jan 8, 2009 10:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
In what sense?
back up your claim.
Roy To The World
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 8, 2009 10:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
See above. If you're Miles & his posse, looking for a smoking gun that the Blazers have engaged in a conspiracy to deny him gainful employment in his chosen profession, it's PAY DAY...
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
by timbo on Jan 8, 2009 10:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Read the article again Timbo
They are plainly saying not to sign a team without intention to play him. They will file for litigation if he is used as a money making 10 game rental. The Blazers are actually giving Miles more a of a chance to get a rest of the season contract by doing this.
Roy To The World
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 8, 2009 11:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What I take Timbo's point to be
and it’s a valid one, is that regardless of what the letter says (Blazers sue if you sign him only to screw us) what it is intended to do/will do is prevent ANY NBA team from signing Miles, whether they want to screw us or honestly believe he can help them because they don’t want to deal with a lawsuit. Thus, Miles has been unfairly deprived of the opportunity to play in the NBA
This has me nervous, I wanted that cap space, but this move might have been too much
Bayless has been testing the fences for weaknesses
by blazeraddict on Jan 8, 2009 11:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
you never know..... he is a self-professing Laker fan
I do enjoy reading your posts Timbo, but sometimes I wonder if you are just picking the position you know will ignite Blazer homers.
by tweener on Jan 8, 2009 10:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I've been consistent from Day 1 that the Blazers have treated Miles poorly. And this just takes things to the third power of nasty, greedy rottenness...
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
by timbo on Jan 8, 2009 11:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, yes I do remember your position on Miles now
I don’t think we have quite become an evil empire though.
by tweener on Jan 8, 2009 11:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The correct response of 1 Center Court to Darius Miles' comeback attempt?
Golf clap.
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
by timbo on Jan 8, 2009 11:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That you have.
And I tend to believe you mean what you say on this.
What has created just the slightest bit of doubt is that some of the things you’ve said have me thinking that perhaps you also have a very twisted sense of humor (the more twisted, the funnier, in my opinion) and are getting people’s goat without them realizing it.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Jan 9, 2009 4:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The Blazers ought to sue Miles
for stealing PA’s money.
And it’s possible that Miles accepted a medical retirement in bad faith—never intending to stay retired, and hoping to collect a Blazer paycheck without having to play or work out for the Blazers. The Blazers wouldn’t simply waive him, he wouldn’t take a buyout, so medical retirement makes sense.
Of course, Portland was probably quite happy for Miles to retire…
by EngineerScotty on Jan 8, 2009 10:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I have had this in my mind for the entirity of this whole situation
he knew getting injured and moving on doing PR interviews and such would make him an easy pickup. This makes Miles look good, cant help but think he had this planned …
And it’s possible that Miles accepted a medical retirement in bad faith—never intending to stay retired, and hoping to collect a Blazer paycheck without having to play or work out for the Blazer
s
Sophia
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
by BlazerFan1 on Jan 8, 2009 10:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Do you have any evidence for this accusation?
While I understand the Blazers brass looking out for their interests (same as other NBA teams would do), where is your evidence that Miles is doing anything but try to get paid to play basketball?
Boomshakalaka
by jksnake99 on Jan 8, 2009 11:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well... he's kind of getting paid whether he plays basketball or not
So the argument that this would keep him from earning a living doesn’t really hold water
"West just flipped Roy's switch to 'Hide the women and children'"
- tmundal, Nov 29, 2008 9:11 PM PST
by GustyJ on Jan 8, 2009 11:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ok, but where is the evidence that he hasn't regained his passion to play basketball?
Boomshakalaka
by jksnake99 on Jan 8, 2009 11:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well that's different
And a valid argument. It’s just that the money thing on Darius’ side doesn’t seem to apply in this situation.
"West just flipped Roy's switch to 'Hide the women and children'"
- tmundal, Nov 29, 2008 9:11 PM PST
by GustyJ on Jan 8, 2009 11:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah it duz
cuz if he plays and plays well, he could get something that pays better then a ten day contract
December 18, 2008.
"Roy is Roy, and if I were to bet my life on a game of 5-on-5, I’d bet on whichever team Roy was playing on." by HurraKane212
by maid tu rek on Jan 8, 2009 11:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He's already making $9 million a year from us for this year and next year
That part was guaranteed regardless of his medical ability to play or his contract’s effect on our salary cap
"West just flipped Roy's switch to 'Hide the women and children'"
- tmundal, Nov 29, 2008 9:11 PM PST
by GustyJ on Jan 8, 2009 11:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And by us, I mean Paul Allen and myself
I once went to Paul’s music museum in Seattle and had a burger at the restaurant, so I’ve contributed a small portion to the Allen fortune.
"West just flipped Roy's switch to 'Hide the women and children'"
- tmundal, Nov 29, 2008 9:11 PM PST
by GustyJ on Jan 8, 2009 11:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
true but if he were to play out this year, and do reasonably well
he could sing a two year contract starting nest year, for 2 or three mill, IF he were to prove on the court that hes not out of gas, and still has a few games left in him. if he could be better then outlaw, at half the price? i dont think he can mind you, but certainly that is miles es contention
December 18, 2008.
"Roy is Roy, and if I were to bet my life on a game of 5-on-5, I’d bet on whichever team Roy was playing on." by HurraKane212
by maid tu rek on Jan 8, 2009 11:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The wording said signing him for the purpose of {screwing us} - -
If he were brought in to a real situation, where there’s a viable need, well there ya go have at it….
just says that wrong behavior will be pounced on
by LetsBlaze on Jan 8, 2009 11:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i agree
but its true, that miles could be picked up by a team with the intent on making love to the blazers, in a noncomital, first names only kinda way, get some court time, and ackshually du something noteworthy, that sparks intrest, or pushes someone that otherwise would not have given him a chance, to du so. very small chance at that, like big bang theory chance, but still. if were hinestly looking at it, there is room for miles to be hurt, but its obvious that the largest injury to possibly come out of this would be to the Blazers. i dont disagree with you at all, i just think timbo has a point. hes just defending it to forcefully, and trying to make it more valid then it is, but he duz have a point.
December 18, 2008.
"Roy is Roy, and if I were to bet my life on a game of 5-on-5, I’d bet on whichever team Roy was playing on." by HurraKane212
by maid tu rek on Jan 8, 2009 11:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Let’s look at this objectively, as hard as that is as Blazer fans. If this was any other team, the reaction would be very different right now.
Bayless has been testing the fences for weaknesses
by blazeraddict on Jan 8, 2009 11:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, averaging 14 ppg and then blowing out his knee like that was a conscious criminal act! What a trickster!!!
The Blazers ought to sue Miles
for stealing PA’s money.
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
by timbo on Jan 8, 2009 11:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No but it was wrong of him
To dog his rehab, to come to practice hung over/drunk, and to show general disregard for the team.
He made it no small secret he didn’t give a damn about the team. So why should we of given him that respect?
Roy To The World
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 8, 2009 11:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
he didn't dog his rehab
thats just plain wrong…its a hard injury to come back from. people were predicting that he wouldnt be able to make a comeback right when the surgery happened. darius never had the work ethic to be the exception to the rule, but at the same time he wanted to make a comeback and even hired his own personal trainers to help him.
by Philthyanimal on Jan 8, 2009 11:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thats true, I don’t mean that he dogged it, just that at the later stages he wasn’t taking it as seriously as he should of, or giving off the notion that he wanted to be rehabbing for this team.
Roy To The World
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 8, 2009 11:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
even if he would have made a strong effort
theres a good chance he wouldnt have been able to recover at all…which is why he is still not productive today after giving it his all…and 2nd of all i’m still glad hes off our team and was never able to negatively influence roy, lma, and sergio their rookie year.
by Philthyanimal on Jan 8, 2009 11:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
he did "DOG" his rehab
I saw him drinking beers at Buffalo Wild Wings when the team was practicing…
Miles is lazy and an idiot. Accept reality.
by Bust a Bucket on Jan 8, 2009 11:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
athletes can't drink?
he was kept away from the team the entire time he was rehabbing. he paid for his own personal trainers…i doubt he would pay them just so he could half ass his rehab if thats really his goal. he was never known as a hardworker…but at the same time i doubt he gave 0% effort in trying to return.
by Philthyanimal on Jan 8, 2009 11:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think Darius ever had a reputation as a hard worker.
Basketball came easy for him, which is why some many people, including Paul Allen, couldn’t help becoming enamoured with him. I think they all believed that here was a basically nice young man with incrediable talent that just needs the right amount of guidance, mentoring and support to become one of the very best players in the game. That, so far, has turned out to be fools gold. – for every team that he’s played for.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Jan 9, 2009 4:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He might very well
have dogged it, or he could have been working like a madman. That won’t change the nature of his claim against the Blazers
Bayless has been testing the fences for weaknesses
by blazeraddict on Jan 8, 2009 11:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
he didn't steal pa's money
he tried returning…they kept him away from the team. if you wanna label him as selfish…i’ll agree with you, but i dont think he is a thief.
by Philthyanimal on Jan 8, 2009 11:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
if you sue someones's ass off...it does go beyond nuts
"Step up to my mic!!!" Joel's right and left fist
by broyposse on Jan 8, 2009 10:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope Darius doesn't get signed by anyone and therefore the Blazers' cap situation remains wonderful and full of joy.
But that’s just me.
"West just flipped Roy's switch to 'Hide the women and children'"
- tmundal, Nov 29, 2008 9:11 PM PST
by GustyJ on Jan 8, 2009 10:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No, you HOPE he signs, because the tort value will be less if he signs right away and damages appear minimal...
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
by timbo on Jan 8, 2009 10:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No, I HOPE he doesn't sign and just goes away. I also hope the Blazers win 5 titles in a row, and that this season of 24 will be awesome.
"West just flipped Roy's switch to 'Hide the women and children'"
- tmundal, Nov 29, 2008 9:11 PM PST
by GustyJ on Jan 8, 2009 10:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I normally don't agree with you Timbo
In fact I think that you are nuts half the time…
But I’m 100% with you on this.
"Hightide was the only "Yes" vote" - parkinglotj
Joel Freeland=Stud
by hightide on Jan 8, 2009 11:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So you are admitting that you too are occassionally nuts?
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Jan 9, 2009 4:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I was wondering why I wasn't seeing you in the front page discussions.
I didn’t have the time to check out the sidebar discussions until now.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Jan 9, 2009 4:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
side bar happened first
December 18, 2008.
"Roy is Roy, and if I were to bet my life on a game of 5-on-5, I’d bet on whichever team Roy was playing on." by HurraKane212
by maid tu rek on Jan 9, 2009 7:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I have some issues with this
can you even support this?
GMs and Presidents have egos…they don’t like to be threaten
KP will have a harder time trading players because some GMs will find this insulting.
Miles will sue
David Stern might get mad since he likes to be in control.
1. GMS and Presidents have egos… yeah so everyone does, what’s the point?
2. Teams trade for various reasons none of which have to do w/ liking eachother personally. It’s a business above all .
3. What would Miles sue for, he’s already getting paid…??
4. what does David’s temperament have to do with anything?
…and if you are going to post a fanpost based on someone else linking this first, link HIS fanshot .
Again, at this point it’s hard to do anything but speculate. Clearly the PTB value their cap space but as Dave and others have pointed out, it’s not as if they aren’t without other options.
Sophia
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
by BlazerFan1 on Jan 8, 2009 10:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
im sure they have other options...
but the first option seems pretty important to the GM. otherwise, he wouldnt do this.
Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.
by aryamehr on Jan 8, 2009 10:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
clearly but im not ready to freak out
I dont really like the PTB ’s methods of issuing these threats and would rather they duke things out in the court room, but this is clearly a pre emptive strike and I love it :)
Sophia
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
by BlazerFan1 on Jan 8, 2009 10:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
its like the war in iraq but legal and ethical!!!
ok so maybe not THAT ethical
Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.
by aryamehr on Jan 8, 2009 10:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
if it was like the war in Iraq
are we Iraq and the USA the NBA?
Sophia
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
by BlazerFan1 on Jan 8, 2009 10:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
undoubtedly....
except we have KP and our crazy staff, which is a whole lot stronger than anything iraq had against the united states. and if nothing else, we’ll just go into brutal guerilla warfare and hopefully take out stern in the process!
Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.
by aryamehr on Jan 8, 2009 10:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
KP in the Iraqi parliament? LOVE IT
:)
Sophia
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
by BlazerFan1 on Jan 8, 2009 11:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
lol well it would certainly
be a change of pace for them. plus, id love to see him pritch-litigate the president.
Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.
by aryamehr on Jan 8, 2009 11:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
just opinions...
are you getting me back now?
it’s someone’s fanshot…not fanpost…and i told him/her i would do it…and if you can see from above, i’m having major issues linking.
trying again though.
"Step up to my mic!!!" Joel's right and left fist
by broyposse on Jan 8, 2009 10:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
no I just dont really think they are relevent. Seems the fanshot could have facilitated this chatter just fine
but it’s all good. Truce? <3
Sophia
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
by BlazerFan1 on Jan 8, 2009 10:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ha.
she used a heart to strengthen her truce. touche, my friend ;)
Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.
by aryamehr on Jan 8, 2009 10:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
;)
Sophia
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
by BlazerFan1 on Jan 8, 2009 11:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You were married to an NBA player?
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Jan 9, 2009 4:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Truce:)
the fanshot was labeled “Shoutout”…it was really obscure and it took me a while to notice it…i sent him/her a message saying to change it because it’s a big deal or i’ll just do a fanpost. Doesn’t a “shoutout” mean “hey, whatup’s, how are you? props to you…” not, “i’m gonna sue you” hahaha
were you born in italy? siena is my favorite place in the world…went to school 6 months there and took my wife and daughter there this past summer. my daughter loved it even though she was only 3. or i loved it that she enjoyed the tuscany area…i’m assuming you are Italian based on name, references, and your battles with me. you should take your son there if you haven’t already!!!
"Step up to my mic!!!" Joel's right and left fist
by broyposse on Jan 8, 2009 11:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We need....
Paul Allen to pay our way out of this one
by kono on Jan 8, 2009 10:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
How am I going to sleep tonight???
Why do I have the sinking suspicion that this will be the impetus for Stern to take our burgeoning franchise and move it to another city?
Of course, that could never happen … right?
The inbound to McGinnis, drives, stops, pumps, shoots, short, no good...AND THE GAME IS OVER! ~ Bill Schonely
by SandbergOnSports on Jan 8, 2009 10:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
We'll always be the Portland Trailblazers
Only now it will be Portland Maine
by Blazersaurus on Jan 8, 2009 10:50 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
(head explodes)
The inbound to McGinnis, drives, stops, pumps, shoots, short, no good...AND THE GAME IS OVER! ~ Bill Schonely
by SandbergOnSports on Jan 8, 2009 10:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
WHY would you say that?
LOL
Sophia
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
by BlazerFan1 on Jan 8, 2009 10:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
okay, fine
(head spontaneously combusts)
The inbound to McGinnis, drives, stops, pumps, shoots, short, no good...AND THE GAME IS OVER! ~ Bill Schonely
by SandbergOnSports on Jan 8, 2009 10:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The Las Vegas Blazers of Glory?
Kansas City Cow Blazers? San Diego Wave Blazers? Barcelona Blazers?
by Norsktroll on Jan 9, 2009 1:57 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i'm speechless
uhh good job?
The Blazers as a whole are far more like my wife than like me in the sense of their physicality on defense.
-Dave
by chrischa on Jan 8, 2009 10:51 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
This is just turrible.
/Charles
"Respect everyone, fear no one." -TP
by Arby on Jan 8, 2009 10:52 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Paul Allen has enough lawyers to take care of this
I’m not that worried… they obviously told him that the Blazers were covered and wouldn’t get screwed because of this.
by Cablinasian on Jan 8, 2009 10:52 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I don't think this is even about the here and now...
It’s about future trade opportunities. You think the league will deal with a team that threatens the entire league with something like this?
Seriously, I think this is a major step back for what, up until this point, has been fantastic grown for the direction of this team.
"Respect everyone, fear no one." -TP
by Arby on Jan 8, 2009 10:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
After the GM said "Portland is screwed"
I don’t think it’s as big a deal.
by Cablinasian on Jan 8, 2009 10:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Paul Allen's got lawyers
I’m sure they’re not just going off half cocked on this one. Or they are and this is a massive facepalm. We shall see.
by Jumbo on Jan 8, 2009 10:53 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
How come...
Quick, Freeman, Casey, Dave, Ben, Canzano, or hell, even Tony Luftman not pick up on this first? I thought it was their job to be around the team and report on them from the inside…
The inbound to McGinnis, drives, stops, pumps, shoots, short, no good...AND THE GAME IS OVER! ~ Bill Schonely
by SandbergOnSports on Jan 8, 2009 10:53 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
this bomb just dropped...
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
by BlazerFan1 on Jan 8, 2009 10:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
the yahoo report sounded like the reporter talked to multiple GMs
"Man with 1 chopstick go hungry." ~W.P.
by prezofdeath on Jan 9, 2009 12:47 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You expect Luftman to have inside information?
He hasn’t even gotten the memo to drop the “tell them what they won” schtick, not to mention the one about the TPS reports!
"West just flipped Roy's switch to 'Hide the women and children'"
- tmundal, Nov 29, 2008 9:11 PM PST
by GustyJ on Jan 8, 2009 10:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Micheal Holton, tell the players union and the league what they've won...
A lawsuit, Tony, a lawsuit.
The inbound to McGinnis, drives, stops, pumps, shoots, short, no good...AND THE GAME IS OVER! ~ Bill Schonely
by SandbergOnSports on Jan 8, 2009 10:57 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
hahaha
"Man with 1 chopstick go hungry." ~W.P.
by prezofdeath on Jan 9, 2009 12:47 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Coach, tell 'em what they've won
A big lawsuit.
by parkinglotj on Jan 8, 2009 10:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I know, the joke was too easy
The inbound to McGinnis, drives, stops, pumps, shoots, short, no good...AND THE GAME IS OVER! ~ Bill Schonely
by SandbergOnSports on Jan 8, 2009 10:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think any of the beat reporters got any warning
And Attorney-Client privilege would really prevent any leaks. Presumably a small number of people were in the loop on this… PA, LM, KP, and maybe the NBA front office. Plus the lawyers.
The Oregonian is probably scrambling tonight.
by Timmay! on Jan 8, 2009 10:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
text the blazersedge bat phone
1-503-719-1790
by tweener on Jan 8, 2009 11:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
hahaah yeah, wake ben up!
"Step up to my mic!!!" Joel's right and left fist
by broyposse on Jan 8, 2009 11:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think this was a smart thing to do.
I don’t believe that KP would put this out to stop Miles ever being signed to another team at all, but just to keep it from being one ten-day contract just to put him in for garbage minutes in two games then release him and never look back.
If Miles is signed somewhere shouldn’t it be for a good reason such as actually playing him and wanting him on the team permanently. I wonder if this warning applies to signing him for the rest of the season?
"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."
by Seijeff on Jan 8, 2009 10:54 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I CANT KEEP UP!!!!
massive stroke
Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.
by aryamehr on Jan 8, 2009 10:55 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
cleanup on aisle five
cleanup on aisle five
"Man with 1 chopstick go hungry." ~W.P.
by prezofdeath on Jan 9, 2009 12:48 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What this does is shine a spotlight on the situation
It makes it almost impossible for a GM to sign Miles and not have a huge media circus surrounding the team. That GM will be unable to escape the label of being the jerk who screwed the blazers.
And I think the Blazers’ have every right to do it since GMs have been telling Yahoo sports that they plan to sign Miles just to screw the Blazers.
This is what Lucas would do. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0aPkIE2qK0
by 123_G.O._RipCity on Jan 8, 2009 10:56 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
right ....
i never thought of it that way. no one wants to be the wicked witch of the west… except maybe denver. damn those thuggets!
Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.
by aryamehr on Jan 8, 2009 10:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Do they really want every national writer camped out writing about them being dirty
This says if you sign Miles you better pay him and you better play him
This is what Lucas would do. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0aPkIE2qK0
by 123_G.O._RipCity on Jan 8, 2009 10:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
my thoughts too
"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."
by Seijeff on Jan 8, 2009 11:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
chris wallace...too dumb to know the difference
"Step up to my mic!!!" Joel's right and left fist
by broyposse on Jan 8, 2009 11:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
it’s a brilliant
Sophia
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
by BlazerFan1 on Jan 8, 2009 11:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Blazersedge is about to blow SBNation up
I hope we have a freakin’ huge server.
by Cablinasian on Jan 8, 2009 10:56 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Wait until the Blazers play a playoff game
It’ll melt this place down.
by Timmay! on Jan 8, 2009 11:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Did Miles accept a butout in bad faith?
Just asking, but consider:
- Miles, by many reports, was totally unmotivated in his workouts last year, in trying to come back from injury.
- A medical retirement is reached. If it sticks, the Blazers and Miles are protected. If Miles comes back—the net effect is the same as if the Blazers had simply waived Miles.
- As soon as the ink is dry, it seems Miles starts working out, trying to land somewhere else.
- He hasn’t been able to stick anywhere, but is two games from affecting the Blazers cap situation.
Do the Blazers have a legit expectation that if Miles is granted a retirement—essentially a release from having to perform his obligations under the contract—that he stay retired?
I don’t know..
by EngineerScotty on Jan 8, 2009 10:58 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
what is a butout?
I think Miles planned on something like this all along to some extent.
Roy To The World
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 8, 2009 10:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ahh! She can't take much more, Captain!
Sorry, with everything going crazy right now, I had to say it.
The inbound to McGinnis, drives, stops, pumps, shoots, short, no good...AND THE GAME IS OVER! ~ Bill Schonely
by SandbergOnSports on Jan 8, 2009 11:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
someone needs to volunteer to make a "second half" thread for this
The inbound to McGinnis, drives, stops, pumps, shoots, short, no good...AND THE GAME IS OVER! ~ Bill Schonely
by SandbergOnSports on Jan 8, 2009 10:58 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
but at what point do we make a second half thread?
300 comments? 500 comments?
The inbound to McGinnis, drives, stops, pumps, shoots, short, no good...AND THE GAME IS OVER! ~ Bill Schonely
by SandbergOnSports on Jan 8, 2009 11:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No GM is going to pull the trigger and sign Miles
They’ll all want to but would you face down Paul Allen, or any Litigation if you don’t really have to?
And here’s another thought, what if some teams signs Miles and to cover up their crime against us they play him actual minutes. Well what happens if he gets hurt really badly? Well that GM looks like an utter fool and may face further litigation or just public outrage.
by Blazersaurus on Jan 8, 2009 10:59 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
haha no kidding where is Dave
im gonna stalk him
Sophia
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
by BlazerFan1 on Jan 8, 2009 11:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I wondered if anyone msg'd the batphone yet.
by Timmay! on Jan 8, 2009 11:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Do it, do it, do it till you're satisfied
This is what Lucas would do. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0aPkIE2qK0
by 123_G.O._RipCity on Jan 8, 2009 11:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ben's sleeping, it's past his bedtime
Sophia
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
by BlazerFan1 on Jan 8, 2009 11:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
the message on his batphone at 9:01 pm " mom just read Boxcar Children to me...going to bed now"
"Step up to my mic!!!" Joel's right and left fist
by broyposse on Jan 8, 2009 11:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
hes putting caffeine
in the food for the hampsters that power sb nations’ server i bet
by postup on Jan 8, 2009 11:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
no kidding
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
by BlazerFan1 on Jan 8, 2009 11:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They need to upgrade
Something like ESPN’s setup with Lance Armstrong powering the whole network. Is Floyd Landis roided up and ready to go?
"West just flipped Roy's switch to 'Hide the women and children'"
- tmundal, Nov 29, 2008 9:11 PM PST
by GustyJ on Jan 8, 2009 11:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, just give him some EPO
low blow, I know…
The inbound to McGinnis, drives, stops, pumps, shoots, short, no good...AND THE GAME IS OVER! ~ Bill Schonely
by SandbergOnSports on Jan 8, 2009 11:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
they need their own site...they would make soo much more money...for Dave's plan to be the next Graham
"Step up to my mic!!!" Joel's right and left fist
by broyposse on Jan 8, 2009 11:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
its xciting
December 18, 2008.
"Roy is Roy, and if I were to bet my life on a game of 5-on-5, I’d bet on whichever team Roy was playing on." by HurraKane212
by maid tu rek on Jan 8, 2009 11:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It seems like all the All-Stars are here
except for Dave and Ben (I think tominhawaii has been absent as well). Come on everybody! Join in and go nuts!
The inbound to McGinnis, drives, stops, pumps, shoots, short, no good...AND THE GAME IS OVER! ~ Bill Schonely
by SandbergOnSports on Jan 8, 2009 11:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i was an all-star....
in the ABA!
Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.
by aryamehr on Jan 8, 2009 11:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah we're missing Tom and jscot, and a couple others
This thread is going to blow their mind tomorrow.
It’s like when some of us missed the late night “Ask anything you want” thread that Dave posted.
by Timmay! on Jan 8, 2009 11:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
that was epic.
I stayed up til 3:30 am.
by Cablinasian on Jan 8, 2009 11:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I loved that thread
Learned a lot about a lot of posters here :)
Roy To The World
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 8, 2009 11:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Is that thread archived?
I gotta check that out, I totally missed it.
"West just flipped Roy's switch to 'Hide the women and children'"
- tmundal, Nov 29, 2008 9:11 PM PST
by GustyJ on Jan 8, 2009 11:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, everything's archived here
No chance right now to look it up though, or I’d need to catch up on 100 posts. :)
by Timmay! on Jan 8, 2009 11:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
try 200
December 18, 2008.
"Roy is Roy, and if I were to bet my life on a game of 5-on-5, I’d bet on whichever team Roy was playing on." by HurraKane212
by maid tu rek on Jan 8, 2009 11:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Mort and jscot are also absent
the war they had with the Bayless-haters a few days ago was epic.
by Cablinasian on Jan 8, 2009 11:04 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Ahem
Well, read what I wrote just above this.
If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President
by jscot on Jan 8, 2009 11:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Do they make horses higher in Scotland, generally speaking?
:)
by BlazersOrBust on Jan 9, 2009 1:50 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No
When you are arrogant enough, you don’t need a higher horse.
If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President
by jscot on Jan 9, 2009 1:52 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Hey man
nobody treads the “it’s not really arrogant if you’re continually backing it up with astute commentary” line more adroitly than you do. Not that your dome really needs any swelling from my contributions, mind you. I figure at least half the time, you write stuff down not knowing where the joking ends and the aggrandizement begins. It’s hilarious.
by BlazersOrBust on Jan 9, 2009 1:56 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Me?
You’re talking about me? As in, ME?
I’m speechless, really. Fortunately, “speechless” rarely afflicts my typing ability, which can motor on incessantly without worrying about content in the least.
If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President
by jscot on Jan 9, 2009 1:59 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't worry
Brandon’s starting to get the same calls that the LeBrons and Kobes do. Keep the faith.
by BlazersOrBust on Jan 9, 2009 2:05 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I could barely rec your comment
This is what Lucas would do. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0aPkIE2qK0
by 123_G.O._RipCity on Jan 8, 2009 11:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
RE: Sophia
Your idea on Miles “faking” or however you wanna put it his injury and i think it is honestly brilliant. That would make total sense. No proof though, DOH!
by blazerbeliever97504 on Jan 8, 2009 11:04 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
oh with the correct investigation this could go to congress! They love hearings on non real life issues!
Seriously though, as already been stated it’s interesting that Miles does NOTHING for 2 years in recovery here and then the minute he’s deemed medically unable to play and retires, he gets a trainer , pr rep firm and agent to set about getting re hired. It’s absurd and very fishy. With the proper medical investigation it’s entirely probable that Miles could be prosecuted for fraud or something..
Sophia
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
by BlazerFan1 on Jan 8, 2009 11:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I truly admire
your ability to get the Sophia in at the end of all your posts so effortlessly, especially in this crazy times.
Roy To The World
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 8, 2009 11:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, just playing devil's advocate
but did you ever think that maybe Miles could play, but the public was being misled?
The inbound to McGinnis, drives, stops, pumps, shoots, short, no good...AND THE GAME IS OVER! ~ Bill Schonely
by SandbergOnSports on Jan 8, 2009 11:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd have an easier time believing that
If the independent doctor hadn’t ruled his injury career-ending. the Blazers should have no control in that (if they did, there’s a MUCH bigger league-wide problem)
by Timmay! on Jan 8, 2009 11:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
not necessarily true
miles was working out with his own trainers before he medically retired here…he tried coming back and associating himself with the team but the organization did whatever they could to keep him away from our young nucleus.
by Philthyanimal on Jan 8, 2009 11:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
that's why he showed up to practice smelling like alcohol..
and was drinking beers at Buffalo Wild Wings when he was supposed to be practicing???
Why are you (a poor exploited person) sticking up for a guy that has made over $50 million???
by Bust a Bucket on Jan 8, 2009 11:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
PRACTICE........... we're talking about PRACTICE!!! ..........Not a game, not a game................ PRACTICE!!! We're talking about PRACTICE!!!
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
by timbo on Jan 9, 2009 8:42 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Someone post when there is a second thread going
This is what Lucas would do. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0aPkIE2qK0
by 123_G.O._RipCity on Jan 8, 2009 11:04 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Someone still needs to volunteer
I would, but I don’t carry the clout that some of the starters do around here
The inbound to McGinnis, drives, stops, pumps, shoots, short, no good...AND THE GAME IS OVER! ~ Bill Schonely
by SandbergOnSports on Jan 8, 2009 11:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If the league had any sense they would have acted first on this
B4 teams were talking to the press about how we were gonna be screwed
by LetsBlaze on Jan 8, 2009 11:04 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
hey whats all the fuss about
"I saw him in the face"
by RoodiePhirnandizz on Jan 8, 2009 11:05 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Larry Miller is going to sue Barak Obama unless he accepts an assistant GM position with the Blazers
This is what Lucas would do. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0aPkIE2qK0
by 123_G.O._RipCity on Jan 8, 2009 11:06 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
It's nuts.
Roy To The World
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 8, 2009 11:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
anyone think that the threat
may be directed at the league and not necessarily at the team that signs him specifically?
Someone had a thread about the possibility of sueing to keep his salary off the cap based on the lack of real time on the court and any meaningful minutes, and that this is not what the rule was written for. The warning sounds like it is directed at a team specifically, but I wouldn’t doubt it was worded that way for affect.
"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."
by Seijeff on Jan 8, 2009 11:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
So how is everyone doing tonight?
Roy To The World
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 8, 2009 11:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I have a biography of Walt Whitman I have to read
and the blazers have to go create breaking news to read about.
by Cablinasian on Jan 8, 2009 11:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't want to spoil the ending ....
…. but the Indian did it.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Jan 9, 2009 4:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome this makes two great nights for you I am sure, with Outlaw getting back to form last night
This is what Lucas would do. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0aPkIE2qK0
by 123_G.O._RipCity on Jan 8, 2009 11:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Amen
but… lol how is tonight great?
Roy To The World
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 8, 2009 11:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I sat down to do a couple hours of appraisal work and just decided to check on Bedge
oops
by tweener on Jan 8, 2009 11:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
appraisal work? for homes? i thought all homes are free now...
"Step up to my mic!!!" Joel's right and left fist
by broyposse on Jan 8, 2009 11:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Did I miss something? Why all the posts?
by dario argento on Jan 8, 2009 11:08 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
i knew i should have done that last line of coke!
Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.
by aryamehr on Jan 8, 2009 11:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Tons of side debate its awesome
Roy To The World
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 8, 2009 11:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Brandon Roy ate a baby
didnt you hear? :)
by EngineerScotty on Jan 8, 2009 11:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This is REAL NEWS. Why is ESPN talking about some dumb college football game?
by Timmay! on Jan 8, 2009 11:08 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
what did they interrupt their poker coverage for football?
by LetsBlaze on Jan 8, 2009 11:09 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Poker is sooo 2005
This is what Lucas would do. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0aPkIE2qK0
by 123_G.O._RipCity on Jan 8, 2009 11:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't that Greg Raymers year
lizard man for $5mil
by LetsBlaze on Jan 8, 2009 11:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Here's the key ... take a deep breath
Everyone is getting so worked up (and rightfully so) about this whole thing because it’s never been done before. No team has threatened litigation against another team to prevent them from signing a certain player. Because it is so new, we can’t even begin to understand it (and people always fear what they don’t understand).
So don’t get too high or too low about this, because we’ll learn more in the morning (or whenever Dave gets here). Instead, just have fun with this amazing thread on BEdge.
I’ll reserve judgment on this subject til the morning. But that doesn’t mean I won’t have fun discussing it!
The inbound to McGinnis, drives, stops, pumps, shoots, short, no good...AND THE GAME IS OVER! ~ Bill Schonely
by SandbergOnSports on Jan 8, 2009 11:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
To be fair, some of us aren't worked up, just having fun. :)
Others are definitely getting worked up though.
Tomorrow’s going to be a wild news day.
by Timmay! on Jan 8, 2009 11:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
My bad
should have put “some people are getting worked up” instead of “everyone”. Totally what I meant,
The inbound to McGinnis, drives, stops, pumps, shoots, short, no good...AND THE GAME IS OVER! ~ Bill Schonely
by SandbergOnSports on Jan 8, 2009 11:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nahh I wasn't worried about semantics on your post
Just enjoying the thread. :)
by Timmay! on Jan 8, 2009 11:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i'm worked up! it's intense...our own Blazers Management like our players are GROWING up before our eyes...
or in some other people’s mind…childishly growing up…
"Step up to my mic!!!" Joel's right and left fist
by broyposse on Jan 8, 2009 11:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
this is a legal question-
our lawyers decided we had a case if someone picked him up. Or they are positioning us for an appeal/case with the league.
i just hope portland’s lawyers are better than their doctors!
by Blazin' on Jan 8, 2009 11:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
There definitely has been some consultation
To what extent we likely wont know for awhile. But this is absolutely thought out.
Roy To The World
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 8, 2009 11:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I would be surprised if this was not run by the NBA front office.
by Timmay! on Jan 8, 2009 11:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
however…if LM did this without letting anyone in on the loop…well i’d just hate to be him right now.
by Philthyanimal on Jan 8, 2009 11:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
This has probably been in the works since he signed with Boston for training camp, with it being close to zero hour, I guess the Blazers figured now is the time to press the button. The problem, however, with using a nuclear weapon is always the fallout…
Bayless has been testing the fences for weaknesses
by blazeraddict on Jan 8, 2009 11:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
no Portland didn't hire the Doc the Players Association did...
the Players Association, the same association Miles will be a member of when he signs w/ another team deemed him to be medically unable to play. Dont you understand ?
Sophia
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
by BlazerFan1 on Jan 8, 2009 11:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This is the most epic story since we got the number 1 pick. It's going to be great watching " The days of our Miles."
by dario argento on Jan 8, 2009 11:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
my god no kidding
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
by BlazerFan1 on Jan 8, 2009 11:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I was working during the NBA lottery thread and offline.
That was the most fun after-the-fact live thread I’ve ever read here. :)
by Timmay! on Jan 8, 2009 11:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I still go back and read it from time to time
Roy To The World
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 8, 2009 11:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
funny you should mention that
I was just reading the classic “lottery day” thread earlier today
The inbound to McGinnis, drives, stops, pumps, shoots, short, no good...AND THE GAME IS OVER! ~ Bill Schonely
by SandbergOnSports on Jan 8, 2009 11:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So when we get screwed over by some rogue GM signing miles what free agent do we miss out on
here is Chad Ford’s free agent preview
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=ford_chad&page=09FreeAgents-081113
by trailblazersfan on Jan 8, 2009 11:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
R no links working on this thread?
by dario argento on Jan 8, 2009 11:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
it works if you copy paste it I don't know what is up with SBNation
by trailblazersfan on Jan 8, 2009 11:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It seems that SBNations
coding for the text to URL auto-convert stops at a hyphen
by tingeyga on Jan 9, 2009 12:19 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sometimes an equal sign
It depends on the link.
by Timmay! on Jan 9, 2009 12:20 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Any lawyers here that have something to say?
I’m thinking that it’s a ploy by Blazer management to get the media involved… no team wants the firestorm that would come with signing Miles.
But isn’t that interfering with his right to work?
by Cablinasian on Jan 8, 2009 11:16 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
yeah i was expected one along any minute
I know we have some law students at least….
by LetsBlaze on Jan 8, 2009 11:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
right to work? pshhh
miles is interfering with the blazers right to trade for the ULTIMATE PLAYER!
Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.
by aryamehr on Jan 8, 2009 11:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think in a way it helps Miles get a full year contract.
As this would likely make GM’s hesitent to go the 10 game route.
Roy To The World
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 8, 2009 11:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
the 10 game route
is over right now isnt it? any signings now have to be guaranteed to the end of the year i believe. unless you are refering to next year.
by Philthyanimal on Jan 8, 2009 11:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nope, 10-day contracts are allowed, starting now
Each team can sign a player to a maximum of two 10-day contracts for the rest of the season
by Timmay! on Jan 8, 2009 11:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think they can sign for two ten day contracts, after that it has to be the rest of the season.
"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."
by Seijeff on Jan 8, 2009 11:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I had a similar question earlier today
Would Miles even sign a 10-day contract knowing that the team only wants him to mess with Portland and not because they think he can ball?
by tingeyga on Jan 9, 2009 12:22 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So far I learned that if I got abused by the man
the firm of Timbo, timbo timbo & AK will be there to cover my ass
by LetsBlaze on Jan 8, 2009 11:18 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Nope, just AK
Timbo said he avoids litigation.
by Timmay! on Jan 8, 2009 11:19 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
need a litigator and a negotiator :-)
by LetsBlaze on Jan 8, 2009 11:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I, too, avoid litigation like the plague.
My laziness prevents me from caring enough to get involved in that kind of craziness.
The only legal matters I’ve been involved in are criminal and, well, due to my stupidity.
by AK1984 on Jan 8, 2009 11:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't sure who to rec first, you or LetsBlaze.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Jan 9, 2009 4:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
First Rule: Be damaged. Second Rule: Prove Damages. Third Rule: Go After Deep Pockets. Fourth Rule: Give T,t,t,&AK Ltd. 1/3 of your $76.4M payout...
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
by timbo on Jan 8, 2009 11:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I would never let AK rep me ... he would piss the judge off in 2 sec s LOL
I would be a much better representation
Sophia
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
by BlazerFan1 on Jan 8, 2009 11:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
are you...
trying to get the sympathy vote from the judge cuz you broke your leg?
by Philthyanimal on Jan 8, 2009 11:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
nah
:)
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
by BlazerFan1 on Jan 8, 2009 11:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
there was a touch of sarcasm present ;-)
but yeah Sophia can charm them for me…then when they are busy being charmed she will turn on them and slash them to bits…
by LetsBlaze on Jan 8, 2009 11:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
precisely :)
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
by BlazerFan1 on Jan 8, 2009 11:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd probably sleep through the proceedings and miss it, although that may create a good outcome.
The other option is that I get totally sloshed the night before, show up hungover, and ramble my way to the point in which I’m held in contempt of court.
by AK1984 on Jan 8, 2009 11:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And you would be in big trouble
If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President
by jscot on Jan 8, 2009 11:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
we get more press coverage in a week
than the Vancouver B.C. team got in their existence.
by Cablinasian on Jan 8, 2009 11:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Come on, where are you attorneys when we need them? Let's hear some legal views on this...
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
by timbo on Jan 8, 2009 11:21 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Just send Dave the bill, he likes attorneys.
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
by timbo on Jan 8, 2009 11:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
well....he's dead....we need John Edwards - - the medium not the adulterer
by LetsBlaze on Jan 8, 2009 11:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i love his war cry scream
AYYAAHHH!
by Philthyanimal on Jan 8, 2009 11:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't that Howard Dean?
And who’s John Edwards the medium?
"West just flipped Roy's switch to 'Hide the women and children'"
- tmundal, Nov 29, 2008 9:11 PM PST
by GustyJ on Jan 8, 2009 11:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Or is it John Edward
South Parks biggest douche in the universe
"The Portland Trail Blazers are aware that certain teams may be contemplating signing Darius Miles to a contract for the purpose of adversely impacting the Portland Trail Blazers Salary Cap and tax positions....."
by LetsBlaze on Jan 8, 2009 11:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i think they made fun of
whoever that was on SP cuz they tried censoring the show…but then again my memory has failed me a lot in this thread.
by Philthyanimal on Jan 8, 2009 11:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not that we got access to all the details
But my fancy pants Ivy league lawyer fiancee says the Blazers are likely okay in all scenarios.
FIRST: the medical retirement rules were not made with this situation in mind. It was written to prevent teams from getting out of big bad deals and then re-signing the player, not for guys deemed by independent docs to be too injured to play anymore and then to make a come back. The Blazers would appeal the money going back on the cap and likely win.
SECOND: Paul Allen is lawyered up out the wazoo, as would be Larry “I ran Nike and know what I’m doing” Miller. This has been risk assessed and gone over a billion times by other fancy pants Ivy League lawyers. It would be much easier to prove a franchise hurt another franchise’ business by signing Miles with no intention to really play him in this VERY UNIQUE situation than it is the Blazers preventing Darius from getting another job, after being cut a few times by different teams after being medically retired and STILL not in good enough shape after over 2 years of rehab.
Darius hasn’t been able to keep a roster spot in the best situation in the league for him, the Grizzlies. They had the space, were bad, and took a chance on him. He wasn’t worth the marginal salary it would take to keep him (a vet minimum salary is also half paid for by the NBA, making it even cheaper). Darius has had plenty of chances to find a job and has been unsuccessful. The Blazers letter comes out after this, so it didn’t prevent him from getting work.
Darius could sue, but he won’t. He will lose, and doesn’t have nearly the resources PA does.
Ethical or not, it doesn’t matter. This frightens off anyone who might have the bright idea of signing Miles to muck with the Blazers, or to make a few extra hundred thousand from the luxury tax payment they’d get from Portland being in luxury tax land. Do you, struggling owner of the Grizzlies, want to battle with PA’s billions? Heck nah, phoo!
This is a strong arm tactic that makes sense from the Blazers perspective, and would be MUCH more unethical if it was sent out before Darius had plenty of chances to find a job.
Darius’ injury has robbed him of his athleticism, which was the only thing he had before. I rooted for Darius to make a team personally, as I hate promising careers being ended because of injury. He is obviously not ever going to be the same again, which should be expected after the YEARS of doctor examinations and tests by independent docs and the insurance companies.
The Blazers were obviously at least a little worried that another team would try to mess with us, so they made clear they wouldn’t sit back and let it happen easily. Darius doesn’t have the resources even if he had a case, and he doesn’t likely have a case as he hasn’t been able to get a job on his own before this.
I’m sure this won’t help, but the Blazers only don’t have a case if Miles actually sticks somewhere and plays. If anyone wanted him and he was capable of playing, HE WOULD BE PLAYING.
This is a wierd situation with no precedent. I don’t blame the Blazers for being aggressive, and you can probably assume our aggressiveness will pay off for us. The aggressive team gets the calls, after all.
I am only engaged to a smarty pants lawyer, and my pa is a lawyer, and one of my sisters. I am not an expert. But this isn’t as bad as all that. Like always with the Miles situation, we just gotta wait and see.
Rest assured the Blazers have, uh, pretty good legal advice. Billions of dollars still buys good advice these days.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Jan 9, 2009 12:08 AM PST up reply actions 5 recs
Did you wake her up to ask her that?
"When I have the ball, I experiment." #5
by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 9, 2009 12:21 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Did she have
her fancy pants on when he woke her up?
If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President
by jscot on Jan 9, 2009 12:57 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
this deserves a poll!
Blazer's fan since '84, Currently exiled in San Antonio
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by HurraKane212 on Jan 9, 2009 1:17 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Probably the better question
is whether, since he’s citing her as a fancy pants lawyer, she had them on when she issued this legal advice.
If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President
by jscot on Jan 9, 2009 2:00 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's a bit personal, don't you think.
But now that you’ve asked….
… can we get a picture if she doesn’t?
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Jan 9, 2009 4:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
you forgot one thing
Larry Miller got durnk right before turning on his email the other night…
Greg Oden, where posters happen.
by ratbastird on Jan 9, 2009 12:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If we think this thread is long, imagine how many texts Darius is getting right now.
by dario argento on Jan 8, 2009 11:21 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
the guy is probably so stoned that he is having a huge paranoia attack
by trailblazersfan on Jan 8, 2009 11:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
"Why is everyone texting me!!!!"
Roy To The World
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 8, 2009 11:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
About 45 minutes ago I was
getting ready for bed… THEN THIS HAPPENS!
Now I’ll be lucky to fall asleep in an hour.
Roy To The World
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 8, 2009 11:22 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
HAHA it's past your bedtime huh?
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
by BlazerFan1 on Jan 8, 2009 11:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There just wasnt anything cool going on tonight...
But wow… I had no idea what I was to witness.
Roy To The World
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 8, 2009 11:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This is why it pays off to sleep during the day.
by AK1984 on Jan 8, 2009 11:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
REC
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
by BlazerFan1 on Jan 8, 2009 11:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Good thing my wife had a baby two weeks ago
and I haven’t gone to bed at a normal time since. I will probably be up all night.
by tingeyga on Jan 9, 2009 12:28 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Can anyone explain to me
why they think this is the nba front office behind this?
by Blazin' on Jan 8, 2009 11:23 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Someone said the NBA front office is behind this?
If so, I missed it.
I do think the team ran this by the NBA front office before sending it out though.
by Timmay! on Jan 8, 2009 11:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i dunno
i heard the blazer front office…not the nba.
by Philthyanimal on Jan 8, 2009 11:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The thought is
that the NBA front office knew that the e-mail was going to be sent and perhaps guided some of the terminology or tone of the e-mail.
by tingeyga on Jan 9, 2009 12:30 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Posted this in the Fanshot
but the discussion seems to be here
Can Portland do this from a collusion perspective under the CBA? Granted, they’re not saying "all teams keep him because of XYZ" or "sign him and we sue" explicitly, but it’s pretty implicit in that statement. I can’t imagine the NBA PA will be too happy about this. I like it to an extent that the team is taking the initiative to protect it’s interests, and I would need to see what the actual penalties for the Blazers could be before making a definitive judgment on the decision to issue this release (although I’m guessing it was vetted pretty well before being issued) but wow…this is definitely raising the ante quite a bit.
Bayless has been testing the fences for weaknesses
by blazeraddict on Jan 8, 2009 11:23 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yes absolutely
Roy To The World
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 8, 2009 11:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
by here I meant this thread
I like my opinions, but not to the point where I would say those are the only relevant issues, which could have been inferred from my title :)
Bayless has been testing the fences for weaknesses
by blazeraddict on Jan 8, 2009 11:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Holy crap
368 comments in 2 hours. What is going here.
"When I have the ball, I experiment." #5
by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 8, 2009 11:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
What's the final score?
And did Bayless play?
by EngineerScotty on Jan 8, 2009 11:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The Blazers vs Pistons replay is on comcast sports net right now
I though for a second we were having a open thread.
"When I have the ball, I experiment." #5
by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 8, 2009 11:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
lol this is almost like one
Roy To The World
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 8, 2009 11:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The Blazers
are trying to suggest that there is an additional cost to signing Miles, at least in legal fees. It may discourage money-conscious teams.
Whoever made this decision for the Blazers deserves to be piefaced, and I hope Cuban signs Miles to a contract.
"I've hacked into your brain. You're throwing a party and no one's showing up."
by ignign*kt on Jan 8, 2009 11:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Cuban and Allen actually have a strong working relationship
Roy To The World
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 8, 2009 11:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yup. Cuban and PA were the only owners to vote against moving the sonics.
by dario argento on Jan 8, 2009 11:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
For very different reasons.
Cuban because he was specifically against it.
Allen because he owns a sports team in Seattle and really had no choice in his vote.
I’m curious how Allen would have voted had he not owned the Seahawks.
by Timmay! on Jan 8, 2009 11:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Cuban because OKC is going to cannibalize his market, Allen because he's gonna have to travel more and doesn't have a regional rival...
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
by timbo on Jan 9, 2009 8:47 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Allies to topple the Spurs
and keep pace with the L*kers
by Blazin' on Jan 8, 2009 11:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
sweet!
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
by BlazerFan1 on Jan 8, 2009 11:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
SAME!
I’m attached
Roy To The World
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 8, 2009 11:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I could totally post my reporter demo link and get 300 views instantly
That’s how crazy this thread is
The inbound to McGinnis, drives, stops, pumps, shoots, short, no good...AND THE GAME IS OVER! ~ Bill Schonely
by SandbergOnSports on Jan 8, 2009 11:28 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Could everyone stop typing for 10 mins?
I had to rewind my pvr like 6 times because I keep getting distracted with the thread.
Thanks! :)
by Timmay! on Jan 8, 2009 11:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I'm afraid to go to bed
don’t want to wake up to roughly 2300 comments on this.
by Cablinasian on Jan 8, 2009 11:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
it is a fanshot
"When I have the ball, I experiment." #5
by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 8, 2009 11:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Great
Now the Blazers are the new Celtics…
Should I sell my soul now, or pretend its all alright and make excuses like I did with the Jail Blazers?
"Hightide was the only "Yes" vote" - parkinglotj
Joel Freeland=Stud
by hightide on Jan 8, 2009 11:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
There's a recession
souls aren’t worth as much these days
by EngineerScotty on Jan 8, 2009 11:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
My body is made up of chemicals
How much does carbon go for these days?
"Hightide was the only "Yes" vote" - parkinglotj
Joel Freeland=Stud
by hightide on Jan 8, 2009 11:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing
Carbon credits on the other hand
by EngineerScotty on Jan 8, 2009 11:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sweet, so if I grow fat
Thats like sequestering(sp?) carbon right?
"Hightide was the only "Yes" vote" - parkinglotj
Joel Freeland=Stud
by hightide on Jan 8, 2009 11:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You may have just hit on an amazing money making idea.
Billions are spent on weight loss programs, gadgets, supplement’s, etc. Imagine if people could stay fat and get paid for it, at the same time feeling good because they are “helping the environment”.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Jan 9, 2009 4:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Makes about as much sense as the psudo science around man-made global warming
(at least according to over 2000 real scientists)
whoo, Katy bar the door! - Maurice Lucas anticipating Greg Oden's development
by lee3022 on Jan 9, 2009 8:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Way too early to say that
We don’t know the full details, or the League/Players’ Union response yet. This may turn out to be a good business move, considering what we know about the Miles situation so far.
Don’t be so quick to jump of the ledge just yet.
The inbound to McGinnis, drives, stops, pumps, shoots, short, no good...AND THE GAME IS OVER! ~ Bill Schonely
by SandbergOnSports on Jan 8, 2009 11:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t be so quick to jump of the ledge just yet.
People on the ledge? That’s automatic.
Why do you think this site is named Blazers EDGE?
by Timmay! on Jan 8, 2009 11:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
HAHA yes
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
by BlazerFan1 on Jan 8, 2009 11:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope not
But I hate for everyone to defend the Blazers and not realized how lame(for lack of a swear word) they act.
"Hightide was the only "Yes" vote" - parkinglotj
Joel Freeland=Stud
by hightide on Jan 8, 2009 11:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Where is Dave?
WAKE UP DAVE. Need analysis.
"When I have the ball, I experiment." #5
by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 8, 2009 11:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I hope he is proud of us when he wakes up
Or I hope he isn’t mad.
Roy To The World
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 8, 2009 11:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nobody's swearing in this thread I think...
by Timmay! on Jan 8, 2009 11:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
lol nope none.
but lots of heated debate
Roy To The World
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 8, 2009 11:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Uhhh, Dave? I know you said we weren't supposed to take the Lexus out, but...
"West just flipped Roy's switch to 'Hide the women and children'"
- tmundal, Nov 29, 2008 9:11 PM PST
by GustyJ on Jan 8, 2009 11:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
no kidding. He's gonna crap kittens when he sees this.
by dario argento on Jan 8, 2009 11:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
has there been a lot of cursing?
i have been too lazy to look back and read everything…
"I saw him in the face"
by RoodiePhirnandizz on Jan 8, 2009 11:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
so thats where the damn things come from
I hate cats.
by EngineerScotty on Jan 8, 2009 11:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He's going to wake up in the morning
Go out and pick a few potatoes, take a sip of coffee, open BEdge, and do a spit take all over his computer.
The inbound to McGinnis, drives, stops, pumps, shoots, short, no good...AND THE GAME IS OVER! ~ Bill Schonely
by SandbergOnSports on Jan 8, 2009 11:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thats just titilating
Roy To The World
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 8, 2009 11:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I've always wondered
how a guy who’s day job is Lutheran minister, and who doesn’t like cursing… knows so much about the porn industry.
:)
by EngineerScotty on Jan 8, 2009 11:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
confessions
"When I have the ball, I experiment." #5
by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 8, 2009 11:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
lmao
Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.
by aryamehr on Jan 8, 2009 11:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
My son...
tell me again about your fantasies with Jessica Alba… I didn’t quite hear you last time.
by EngineerScotty on Jan 8, 2009 11:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
hahaha funny
"Step up to my mic!!!" Joel's right and left fist
by broyposse on Jan 8, 2009 11:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The day I need to hear somebody ELSE'S fantasies about Jessica Alba
will be a sad, sad day.
She’s hot.
—Dave
by Dave on Jan 9, 2009 2:06 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The same thought has ocurred to me from time to time.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Jan 9, 2009 4:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Excuse me while I go watch the fourth quarter of the Phoenix game.
Seeing Brandon dominate > Darius news
by Cablinasian on Jan 8, 2009 11:37 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Im watchin the third quarter of the detriot game on comcast sports net
"When I have the ball, I experiment." #5
by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 8, 2009 11:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Law Student here
at one of my property lectures an intellectual property attorney introduced me to the concept of worst-case-scenario time travel. Imagine that someone has infringed upon your clients patent and you’ve not taken measures to protect him and you are in front of a jury. If you could go back in time, what would you have done differently so that you could tell it to the jury? Figure out what that is and do it now, beforehand.
The Blazers are setting up a “bad faith” argument. They are laying the foundation for a formal complaint. If this deters suitors for Miles, all the better. Also, since Miles was ruled unfit to play by an impartial doctor and he is still getting his money, it would be hard for him to push a case against PDX because the detriment to PDX would be unconscionable. He gets his 9mil, and Blazers are both penalized and unable to use his services when neither had reached any sort of buy-out agreement.
Darius will probably play, and PDX will probably appeal, and may use media articles to demonstrate that GM’s knew of the detriment to PDX and played Darius Miles in bad faith to hurt PDX’s capspace. That whole fiduciary duty thing holds quite a bit of weight, holds you to a higher standard of ethics. If it even smells like bad faith in a fiduciary relationship, it probably won’t go well for the “bad-faith-er” (not a legal term, but it’s more simple than "tortfeasor")
This will probably not be over for a while…
Blazer's fan since '84, Currently exiled in San Antonio
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by HurraKane212 on Jan 8, 2009 11:38 PM PST reply actions 5 recs
thank you
I was hoping to get an actual legal perspective (and not the “perspective” in the press release)
The inbound to McGinnis, drives, stops, pumps, shoots, short, no good...AND THE GAME IS OVER! ~ Bill Schonely
by SandbergOnSports on Jan 8, 2009 11:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
awesome, thank you
totally informative.
Roy To The World
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 8, 2009 11:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
by BlazerFan1 on Jan 8, 2009 11:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
using media articles
or to some more damning evidence from inside an organization. There was a reference in the letter that implies as much.
by Blazin' on Jan 8, 2009 11:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
rec
Elizabeth had a partner and he had a rap from the cops, Him and Lenny Suckerpunch were just out Tooling around
by Lizzy Lowblow on Jan 8, 2009 11:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
thanks...you slept at a Holiday Inn Express huh?
"Step up to my mic!!!" Joel's right and left fist
by broyposse on Jan 8, 2009 11:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Man, that's good stuff.
From my ignorant viewpoint, though, it seems to me that this thing could finish up in many different ways.
by AK1984 on Jan 9, 2009 12:29 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
it depends…
but this “may” have been brilliant, or at least a good idea.
Blazer's fan since '84, Currently exiled in San Antonio
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by HurraKane212 on Jan 9, 2009 12:38 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe KP just wanted some more interview time
‘Cause you know he’ll be on every other talk show and ESPN segment for the nextfew days. He and Larry should have plenty of opportunities to give their side of the story.
"West just flipped Roy's switch to 'Hide the women and children'"
- tmundal, Nov 29, 2008 9:11 PM PST
by GustyJ on Jan 8, 2009 11:39 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
haha
"When I have the ball, I experiment." #5
by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 8, 2009 11:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's a nice that we've got computers in this day and age, for otherwise he'd stain his master copy.
by AK1984 on Jan 9, 2009 12:30 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
editors probably don't like it
when pages stick together, eh..
by Bust a Bucket on Jan 9, 2009 10:31 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And his brain disengaged.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Jan 9, 2009 4:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Shouldn't that be its own topic?
Complete with its own 300+ comment thread?
"West just flipped Roy's switch to 'Hide the women and children'"
- tmundal, Nov 29, 2008 9:11 PM PST
by GustyJ on Jan 8, 2009 11:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
300 is waaaaay too conservative!
whoo, Katy bar the door! - Maurice Lucas anticipating Greg Oden's development
by lee3022 on Jan 9, 2009 8:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Time for bed
But as an homage to tonight, please complete the following sentence:
The NBA. Where __________ happens.
"West just flipped Roy's s

by 