Game 35 Recap: Blazers 84, Pistons 83
Well, that wasn't our best win of the year and it certainly wasn't the prettiest, but aesthetic qualities aside, we accomplished just what we wanted to. We came out of this nasty little four-game New Year's stretch with a .500 record and ended the roughest part of our schedule for the season at 21-14, 7 games above .500. More on that later. For now...
General Observations
As the Schonz used to say, this game was a tale of two halves. The first half was brutal. And by brutal I mean awful. And by awful I mean "really not very good". The main culprit was our zone defense. Mind you, zone was EXACTLY the right call against the Pistons with Rip Hamilton and Rasheed Wallace out. That's at least 50% of the Pistons' jump-shooting power and about 90% of their three-point shooting out of the game. Plugging the middle was the order of the day. The thing is, you're not supposed to plug it with a colander. There are a couple reasons to throw up a zone. First you want to collapse on penetration, making sure that the key stays guarded by a big man who is right there to help should anybody get through. Second you want to force shots from the diagonals, cutting off direct looks from the baseline especially. The Blazers' zone didn't do EITHER. Drivers were getting through left and right and when they did the rotation was late getting over. The Pistons got cheap looks at the rim in the halfcourt. Can anybody tell me what in the world Greg Oden would be doing out near the three point line in a zone? It happened. Late, out of position, not helping each other, not communicating...we might as well have been playing with our arms tied behind our backs. And on the rare occasions we stopped penetration Detroit simply kicked out for straight-on looks. We provided less resistance than a porn star's panties. We might as well have served them tea and crumpets every time they drove. "Spot of tea, guv'ner? No? You'll just be headed right to the basket then? Jolly good. Carry on!"
You know it's not going well when Rasheed and Rip are out, Allen Iverson doesn't have to lift a finger, and you're still down double digits.
On top of that our offense was strictly halfcourt, usually one-on-one, and was only producing jumpers. That's generally a recipe for disaster.
But wait...there's more. Even though we couldn't prosecute any of the advantages of a zone with that lousy execution we still fell prey to its weaknesses, chief among them being a wholesale abdication of rebounding responsibility. The Pistons grabbed 11 offensive rebounds tonight. How bad was it? We made Kwame Brown look like a #1 overall pick out there in the first two periods. That's just wrong.
Thankfully we forced a couple of Detroit turnovers right at the tail end of the second quarter and converted them into 5 quick points, leaving us down 7 at the break instead of 12.
Then the game turned.
First off we went man-to-man instead of zone. Second we forced even more turnovers which, combined with the running skills of Sergio Rodriguez, Jerryd Bayless, and Lamarcus Aldridge, allowed us to force the pace up to where it should have been in the first place. As free passes gave way to lock-downs, jumpers gave way to fast break layups and penetration, and their offensive rebounds gave way to our defensive rebounds, lo and behold...we caught up.
At that point it was a dogfight to the finish. It was Tayshaun Prince (who had an amazing night) and Allen Iverson plus a little Antonio McDyess against whoever Nate could drag out of the toybox in the absence of Brandon Roy. Sergio, Bayless, Fernandez, Lamarcus, Travis...everybody did their part. It came down to a possession-versus-possession standoff and our Travis Outlaw ended up trumping their Prince and Iverson.
First half, horrible. Second half, brilliant. Net difference? +1 point. But that's enough for the "W".
We ended up letting the Pistons shoot 50%, get up 6 more shots than we did, and obliterate us on the boards 40-28...all of which were disasters given who they fielded. We ended up getting 18 points to their 6 from the three-point line and 14 points to their 9 at the charity stripe. That made the difference in the game.
Individual Observations
Lamarcus Aldridge had a fine offensive night, hitting 11-21 for 26 points. (Obviously we needed every one.) His offense was jumper-heavy in the halfcourt but that's usual. He keyed the heart of the comeback by outrunning the defense down the court. He also got some closer-in looks in the halfcourt in the second half. He looked lost on the boards but with the state of the defense tonight that wasn't surprising. Everybody looked lost. He got to the foul line 7 times which was important, even though he only made 4 of them.
I thought Rudy Fernandez had a very good game tonight. He shot 5-10 for 13 points, hitting all 3 threes he attempted. More importantly he played a smarter, more controlled defensive game. He had a couple of blocks plus the key defensive rebound of the game...one he ripped from the Pistons' hands to avoid disaster with 20 seconds left and Detroit up 1 still. Had he not made the effort Travis doesn't get the chance for that game winner. Overall he picked his spots, looking a lot more like Rudy Fernandez than somebody who's trying to take over for Brandon Roy. It worked.
Travis Outlaw couldn't have stopped Tayshaun Prince with 6 yards of chain, 2 padlocks, and a shotgun tonight but he shot 6-10 and scored 14 points. His scoring was timely as well. He helped keep us within shouting distance in the first half and he got legitimately hot down the stretch. He hit the game winner on an isolation play called for him. Here's a truth about Travis: He'll make you pull your hair out, elicit screams at your TV, and be the subject of 92 trade posts. But when all's said and done, even if he's sat out most of the game, if it comes down to one shot at the end of Game 7 of the NBA Finals he'll still be on the short list of people considered to take it. This is the pain and glory of Travis Outlaw.
Steve Blake also had major defensive problems tonight. At times he looked like his sneakers were laced together. However he gets credit along with Joel Przybilla for forcing Allen Iverson into a tough shot to try and win the game in the last possession. He also gets credit for his 2-2 three-point shooting, his 10 points, and his 10 assists. At times he looked like Sergio out there breaking up the defense with his passing.
Speaking of Sergio, he struggled early but came on in the second half to change the game. One of the most basic decisions for any penetrator is pass or shoot. Sergio makes this look like calculus sometimes. He'll make you bang your head against the couch when he makes the wrong decision multiple times in a row. (Tonight it was to the point that the Detroit commentators remarked on it.) On the other hand when it works that penetration and passing is spectacular and irreplaceable. We needed to push against Detroit tonight and Sergio helped us do that. 4 points, 3 rebounds, 2 turnovers, 1 assist in 15 minutes.
Jerryd Bayless looked comfortable in his own shoes for the first time this season tonight. He pressed less and let the game come to him more. He played some quality minutes during the third-quarter comeback, helping Sergio push the ball and making a couple of timely steals. He ended up 2-6, 4-4 from the free throw line (easily more free throws per minute than anyone else on the team tonight), for 8 points, 2 assists, and 2 steals.
The Pistons decided they wanted Joel Przybilla to beat them from the free throw line tonight if he was going to touch the ball. This seriously hampered his offense. He ended up with 2 points on 2-6 shooting from the foul line. He got his revenge with 7 rebounds and 2 steals, plus he punked up Kwame Brown a little bit, reminding him that he wasn't really a first overall pick...or at least not one that anybody wanted to remember. It worked.
Nicolas Batum had 3 rebounds, hit a 3-pointer, and collected an assist in 20 minutes. Let's hope he was taking notes on Tayshaun Prince's game tonight. Someday, my son...
Greg Oden collected 4 fouls in 13 minutes and was crazy weird about where he put himself defensively. This wasn't one of his big hustle games. He did have a couple of nice back-down post moves. He ended up 2-3 for 4 points. He only had 1 rebound, which was really not cool.
Channing Frye played more that twice as well as Darius Miles tonight. He played for 4 minutes and he managed not to register all zeros in the boxscore. He missed one shot to post a "1" in there.
Final Thoughts
Thus ends the Miserable Schedule of DOOOOOOM TM. Let's hope we never, EVER have to go through a 2+ month stretch like that again. Serious, SERIOUS props to the Blazers for coming out of it 7 above .500. If they can manage to keep their wits, get Roy healthy, and not relax and take teams for granted we should see some nice win totals over the next couple of months. That's not to say even the next game is an automatic win. It's not and the rest of them aren't either. But on balance, on average, the Blazers should be able to win a lot more games than they lose in the next 90 days. We have a good shot at heading into the last month of the season in double-digits above .500 territory.
Often when I feel exhausted or like quitting in the second half of workouts I will think back about all of the energy I put into just getting to that point. I ask myself whether I really want to waste all the agony I went through at the 5-minute mark or the 18-minute mark by slipping or giving up at the 30-minute mark. Let's hope the Blazers employ a similar focus. They fought really, really hard to earn these wins. Let's not let a few streaks of inattention give them right back to the league.
It'll be a hard fight, but a winnable one. The major obstacle for the team is simply themselves. The Pistons' broadcast put some interesting graphics up when introducing our players. Instead of giving stats or listing age they put up years of experience in the league. That was an eye-opener. You think of Lamarcus Aldridge as one of our veterans, yet he's only been in the league three years including this one. Total our starting lineup even with Roy in there and you come up with 14 years of experience overall. Without Roy it's only 12 years of experience. And 6 of those belong to Steve Blake. Many teams field a single player who equals those numbers. Every other playoff contender in the West obliterates them. Then again, the Blazers have been playing beyond their years the entire season. Why should it stop now? Let's hope it doesn't.
Check out the Jersey Contest results from this game and enter the next one here
--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)
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FIRST
why not? ;)
Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.
WHY NOT!?!?!?!??!??!
Cause I need content in your comments!!!!!
NO MORE JUST TYPING FIRST
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by BlazermaniacAndy on Jan 7, 2009 11:44 PM PST up reply actions
It is a Bedge rule
Only type ‘first’ in gameday open threads.
"When I have the ball, I experiment." #5
by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 7, 2009 11:45 PM PST up reply actions
the maniac needs a chill pill!!!!
btw, when super trout pops up all i can really have the strength to muster out is “FIRST!”
he’s just too…damn….powerful…
Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.
THE MANIAC NEEDS TO CHILL!?!?!?!
Do you know what it means to be a MANIAC!?!?
IT MEANS I AM SO AMPED UP FROM THIS GAME I ACCIDENTALLY WAS RUDE FOR A MOMENT.
Ok I’m drinking Decaf now, I was just joking my good friend aryamehr (great name by the way), I just wanted to say I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to lash out at you, normally I’m a nice guy, but I normally just come here to read, and honestly, Months ago I got sick of reading the “First” comments and I suggested we stop this antic and try to write thoughtful comments instead, but now since we can go ahead and continue this trend….
2nd behind the 1st!
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by BlazermaniacAndy on Jan 8, 2009 12:04 AM PST up reply actions
youre a good man blazermaniac andy...
a good man. i appreciate your love for the blazers and thank you for complimenting my bedge name.
STILL FIRST SUCKAAAAAAZZZZ!
Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.
I called in to the 5th quarter radio show, did you hear me?
I said it, just like Ben and I have since summer league…
Bayless is a Baller…(THEE most memorable 8 points…And that Dunk! That’s what I want from my point guard!)
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by BlazermaniacAndy on Jan 8, 2009 12:51 AM PST up reply actions
Great Recap Dave...
- I would say this was Rex’s best game. He was active on defense and seeing him fight through a pick and roll makes me smile. His intensity is just raw and awesome.
- I still love Travis as a backup that provide sparks. He’s like Brett Farve. Throw 3 interceptions during the game, 1 fumble lost, and come back for a 2 minute winning drive.
- I also don’t think the Pistons would have won that title without Tayshaun. We need a Tayshaun…I’m crossing my fingers that Nic can become in time, a better athletic version of Prince.
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except...
brett favre is arguably the greatest football player ever.
“crawfish” outlaw… not so much… god bless his mississippi heart
Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.
most clutch and boneheaded small forward in Blazer history?
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Umm,
brett favre is arguably the greatest football player ever
Not even close. I wouldn’t even put him in the top five.
hey prem!
prem means “love” in hindi. SO WHERES THE LOVE MAN????
and you can make an ARGUMENT with brett favre. he is one of the greatest ever simply because he’s 41,000 years old and still could spank almost any QB half his age. thats a great one right there.
Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.
John is that you?
Sorry I thought you were John Madden for a sec. If by spank you mean throw more INTs then yep Favre is a spanker all right.
Blazers lucked out. They need to learn some offinsive sets. They win games based on talent and luck (like this game).
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by Derek @Portland Men on Sports on Jan 8, 2009 12:31 PM PST up reply actions
Rex showed why people think
he’ll be a great defender. Nice work by him… fought through picks nicely.
Yes he did, yes he did
Bayless was our best defender out there last night, there I said it.
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Jan 8, 2009 9:04 AM PST up reply actions
To all you JBay haters:
Let me respond responsibly, maturely, and with civility. Oh, what the heck. Nanni-nanni-nanni…..
The kid has a long way to go, but the tools are on display and those who continue to deny it and who try to dismiss him as an undersized shooting guard are only going to look more and more foolish.
For those who don’t get it, on the ball pressure is a good thing.
by upper left corner on Jan 7, 2009 11:44 PM PST reply actions
Indeed
but just as with Sergio and just as with Rudy (and longer ago with Martell and Travis) one game does not a career, or even a conclusion, make. Personally I need to see a lot more out of Jerryd before I’m as comfortable having him in the regular rotation as I am with any of the players I just mentioned.
—Dave
He brought one thing you didnt mention
Fire.
"When I have the ball, I experiment." #5
by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 7, 2009 11:51 PM PST up reply actions
It is the insufferable, dismissive condescension of some BEdgers that has provoked my ire.
Clearly, you are right that JBay has much to learn and his eventual development is not certain. But I think we have seen enough to know that we need to see more.
The Blazers are a team in desperate need of perimeter defense. Blake, Sergio, and Rudy all have significant issues staying in front of their men, fighting through screens, and generating pressure on the ball.
I don’t know how good of a defender JBay will be. He has his share of breakdowns as well, but clearly he has an intensity and energy on the floor that is different than the other three.
Based on his career in High School, UA, and Summer League, I am pretty confident that he has a fair number of other tools in his bag. I think he has earned some minutes, and a chance to show us what he can do,
by upper left corner on Jan 8, 2009 12:04 AM PST up reply actions
yep...i like to see more of him especially against guys like Stuckey
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Nate has been using him to guard SGs and even SFs during these past few games....
……I assume that that is because he has greater upper body strength than Blake or Sergio. It is tough for JBay because he has been giving up a lot of height on most of those guys.
I am looking forward to seeing his defense on PGs, in general, and quick PGs, in particular.
by upper left corner on Jan 8, 2009 12:23 AM PST up reply actions
Refusing to acknowledge his skills or even his proper position is pretty offensive and has been pretty common around these parts.
by upper left corner on Jan 8, 2009 12:06 AM PST up reply actions
I think you let a minority group get to you
It’s been clear to me that most people on BE love Bayless, or at the minimum his potential. It’s clear in most of the threads.
I think most of the people who like him just aren’t getting involved in arguments about him. :) (It seems like the Bayless arguments always include the same groups of people, similar to the LMA arguments)
Too true....
….guess I have allowed myself to be sucked into a few of those arguments over the past week and my patience has worn thin.
Off to bed now, maybe I will be less surly in the morning :-)
by upper left corner on Jan 8, 2009 1:27 AM PST up reply actions
Bayless hasn't played enough for people to hate him.
There have been a few who think he’s been a bust, but they belong in the category of people who have to always find fault with something.
hakkaa päälle !
As I said above, I think the kid has earned a chance to show us what he can do.
On a team that desperately needs perimeter defense, let’s see if the kid can defend the point.
by upper left corner on Jan 8, 2009 7:34 AM PST up reply actions
I have never been in the Bayless fan club ...
… in so far as saying he’s the perfect guy for Portland or should be starting.
However I also have not been one to find fault with him. Mostly it’s been a wait and see attitude. If I had to come down on one side or the other about Bayless, I’d side with his supporters, for the simple fact that Pritchard thought enough of him to trade for him.
As for whether he has earned a chance to play – I don’t know. I don’t get to watch practices, so I have no idea if he’s earned anything. What I do know is he’s gotten an opportunity to play and it is up to him to show he deserves more minutes. He’s shown flashes (I wasn’t able to watch last night’s game, which I understand he did fairly well in) and he’s also exhibited rookie mistakes. To my way of thinking, the mistakes are understandable and could well be corrected simply with more playing time. However I don’t have McMillan’s experience nor responsibility to determine that Bayless should be getting minutes ahead of Blake and Sergio, once Brandon gets back. If he does, then I’ll conclude that Nate believes he’s earned them. If he doesn’t, then I’ll only assume that the two guys ahead of him still have an edge due to experience. I will not assume that Bayless is a bust or expendable.
hakkaa päälle !
Right
I’m not sure he’s earned a chance more than the guys playing ahead of him. None of us are really in a position to assess that. One good game doesn’t prove it anymore than some of the poor games proved the opposite.
What he has done is showed that the potential is there, and that there’s a reason we went and got him. It’s given those of us who’ve been saying it all along something to answer those who keep saying, “He hasn’t done anything in the NBA.” Well, not much, but not much chance, either, and there’s at least one game indicating there’s potential for a lot more.
If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President
Let me clarify......
My enthusiasm for Bayless is not based on what he has accomplished so far in the NBA, which is not a great deal.
Rather, it is based on an assessment of his potential and what I see as a glaring need for improved PG defense. I do think that Bayless has shown enough in the last few games to confirm that the “potential” is there. To my eye, the tools are on display: speed, strength, balance, athleticism, and intensity.
Certainly, he is raw. It would be crazy to expect him to be anything else. He is trying to transition from playing SG and being the dominant scorer on his UA team to being a facilitator and supplemental scorer in the NBA. That is a big transition. Some of that transition is physical. He has to learn to finish in the paint against bigger, faster players. He has to learn how much defensive pressure he can put on the opposing player w/o having them blow by him into the lane. But the biggest adjustment is mental. He has to learn when to drive and when to shoot. He has to learn to recognize floor situations on both offense and defense.
Bayless’ stats for the past three games (I am throwing out the first game because I think you can chalk that up to nerves):
Min 44, FG 3-16, FT 8-10, ST 4, Assists 8, TO 1, RB 4, PTS 14
With the exception of FG%, that is a heck of a stat line, especially for a kid just getting off the bench and playing in unfamiliar rotations against elite teams.
I am not arguing that he has “arrived,” or proven himself to be better than the players ahead of him. I am saying that he has shown very real promise and tantalizing potential in areas (getting to the hoop, drawing fouls, pressuring the ball) that are real weaknesses for the team.
I think it would be coaching malpractice to just send him back to the end of the bench. Nate needs to find some way to get the kid on the floor on a fairly consistent basis so he can show us what he can do. Personally, I would like to see him get some PT with the starting unit. Lets see if he can complement Roy. Let’s see if he can defend the point. Let’s see what his assist to turnover ratio will be with consistent minutes. JBay appears to be able to get to the rim against most teams, and appears to have a talent for dishing off the drive. Let him play with Oden and LMA so he can drop the ball to the big men with the good hands when he drives.
Give him ten minutes a game for the rest of the month and let’s see what he can do. Take 6 minutes from Blake and 4 from Sergio. At the end of the month let’s reassess.
by upper left corner on Jan 8, 2009 9:26 AM PST up reply actions
check the tape
In the middle of the Blazer run Bayless was so disruptive Detroit moved Stuckey off the ball and had Prince initiate the offense.
THATS COOL
Disruptive......
That is a term I have not heard applied to Blazer PG defense in a long time. I like it, I love it, I want some more of it…….
by upper left corner on Jan 8, 2009 9:34 AM PST up reply actions
Dave, nice description of our defense...i'm so tempted but i won't type another word...
We provided less resistance than a porn star’s panties.
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he's the coolest pastor ever...
in the history of the world
Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.
Actually, that comment shows that he is a pastor and not a porn producer
(they don’t wear panties)
by Bust a Bucket on Jan 8, 2009 12:31 AM PST up reply actions
ah youre wrong my friend...
they do wear panties, but as a formality so theyre able to take them off and begin doing… what they do
Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.
I feel I can give a solid estimate here.
Based on the extensive research that I have done, I would say panties are worn at the following percentages:
70% have panties and take them off.
20% go commando all the way.
10% have panties and leave them (somewhat) on.
I felt like Blake did decently defending AI.
He was held to 31% shooting and had 4 turnovers. AI wasn’t what killed hurt us.
"Respect everyone, fear no one." -TP
Blake saw more of the back of AI's jersey than the front!
We did a reasonable job on him late but he could go by Blake at will tonight. His decision making once he was past Blake had as much to do with his stat line as our defense, the second half trapping defense certainly helped things.
My lady friend bailed on me tonight, so I told him he could be my back up date
He really likes the Motor City for some reason, even though he was born here in the Beaverton. He says it’s because it’s of “Mother Issue’s”, as in she is a huge blazer fan. And so he couldn’t really like the Blazers cause it would be like, Bonding or something.
So we meet up with the Q4 crew at McFaddens to pound a couple pints pre game. Then we had to wait for the late max train to hope across the Willamette. We arrive at the Garden late, Fashionably late, I think I need to get better on my timing…
Anywho, So the game is back and forth, But I did not fret, not for one sec. I had supreme confidence, it pays off trust me. Just believe, yell at that Pistons fan an
Bennico Del Toro has a Portland Trailblazers shirt on the Colbert Report right now! Gotta go!
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by BlazermaniacAndy on Jan 7, 2009 11:56 PM PST reply actions
when he goes to bed, dress him in one of your Blazer jerseys...and write #25 on his forehead
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by broyposse on Jan 7, 2009 11:57 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm gonna Rec this your comment broyposse because...
It wasn’t funny the first time,
nor the second,
but the third, it was golden!
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by BlazermaniacAndy on Jan 8, 2009 12:06 AM PST up reply actions
i don't know...just like you, my browser freaked out for a moment
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hey what do you think about Joel as an MMA fighter
tonight at one point he looked extremely intense and like he wanted to fight again…
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by BlazermaniacAndy on Jan 8, 2009 12:10 AM PST up reply actions
yeah, that be awesome...Kwame tried to give him lip...
and basically, joel said “didn’t you see what i did to Tyson Chandler?”
Blakey was ready for MMA action tonight too.
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I was talking to myself during the game...
I was saying…
Kwame Brown was a #1 pick…
Greg Oden was a #1 pick…
…typing 3 periods in a row should make a pause sound…
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by BlazermaniacAndy on Jan 8, 2009 12:23 AM PST up reply actions
its amazing to me
how truly useless “stone hands” brown is. just a 7 ft tall waste of basketball space.
Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.
good nickname
He makes Oden look like Jerry Rice.
by Bust a Bucket on Jan 8, 2009 12:32 AM PST up reply actions
true dat
really, i think oden has some of the best big man hands in the bidness. especially compared to ol’ stone hands.
Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.
Jaison Williams ,WR for the Ducks, has the ultimate hands-of-stone
(sorry ducks fans . . . but it you are a fan you’ve seen it )
put a body on 'em
He's bigger than I would've ever imagined
And he actually had a decent first half. But reality set in the second. His two missed free throws in the fourth were particularly team-killing.
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Jan 8, 2009 9:03 AM PST up reply actions
I would just like to point out
For all the Bayless haters who ranted that he’s only shooting 29% so far, check this game.
He shot 33. That’s big-time progress. If he improves by 4 every game, by the end of the season his shooting percentage will be over 200%.
So there.
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For all the Sergio haters, Sergio tied for our third leading rebounder.
So there.
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For all the LMA haters.
So there.
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For all the Travis traders.
So there. And there.
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For all the people who said this team is useless without Brandon.
So there.
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For all the people who think this is a childish comment, you are right, but I don’t care.
So there.
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By the way, anyone beside me notice just how much we are owning the Eastern Conference this year? Split against Boston and Orlando, and other than that….
If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President
by jscot on Jan 8, 2009 12:35 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
Just asking.....
……are you just ranting, or ridiculing my outburst above? Oh well, I had to scream just like JBay did after he was fouled. I think the pressure has been building for months.
Good Night and Good Luck!
by upper left corner on Jan 8, 2009 1:08 AM PST up reply actions
Just ranting
I don’t care how ugly the wins are when we’re without Brandon, I’ll take it.
I just get tired of all the negativity. THESE players, not other players, not the players that someone wishes we had instead, not the players that we hope these guys will become, but these very basketball players that we have on our team right now, have played .600 ball against what is probably one of the toughest schedules in league history. We have played 23 games against teams with winning records, and 12 against losers.
We’ve gone 2-2 against 4 very tough teams without their all-star and leader. Sure, Detroit had guys out, and Boston is struggling. Doesn’t matter. Detroit still had Prince, Stuckey, AI, and McDyess, and had won 7 in a row. That’s a good team, and we got the W.
That’s our team out there, and they are doing a great job. The negativity is extremely annoying.
If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President
have played .600 ball against what is probably one of the toughest schedules in league history. We have played 23 games against teams with winning records, and 12 against losers.
It’s so great to have a team we enjoy, who also is learning to win big games. I just needed to paste this section because it’s so important.
This should be an interesting stretch of games, headed to the All Star break.
Yeah
Can we convert .600 ball against a tough schedule to .650-700 ball against a weaker schedule? If so, we lock down our playoff spot.
It should be interesting. Young teams with a lot of talent will win some games you wouldn’t expect (we’ve seen that) and lose some games they shouldn’t (we’ll see some of that in this stretch).
So far, we’re taking care of business, 10-2 against losing teams. If we continue that rate, we’re going to really be racking up some wins in the coming weeks. Eight of our next ten are against losing teams.
Hope Brandon is healthy.
If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President
yeah, the negativity got to me too
when i would look around, there would only be maybe 1 or 2 untouchables on the team. it had just never occurred to me to have this sort of attitude about my team.
ignacio
If you think this is negativity . . .
try reading the comments on O-live !
Brutal !!!!!!
It's GO time !
Couldn't agree more.
I posted a comment in another thread about being ticked off at Jason Quick because I think he is contributing to the unreasoned and unreasonable climate of negativity.
The guys should be immensely proud of what they have accomplished so far, and the fans should be high-fiving, rather than whining and making trade posts.
by upper left corner on Jan 8, 2009 1:22 AM PST up reply actions
+1
He shot 33. That’s big-time progress. If he improves by 4 every game, by the end of the season his shooting percentage will be over 200%.
You just can’t argue with those kinds of numbers. – Elgin
It doesn't mean you should just because you can. Like Abraham and Ishmael, fighting over sand - it doesn't mean you should just because you can. That is a fact of life. - Adrian Belew
That kind of sterling analysis
is the reason people come to the Bedge.
If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President
Great effort tonight
overall this might have been the best performance of the 4 non-Brandon games. Everybody came in and gave us what they were supposed to give us. Aldridge put up the big numbers. Rudy was stroking it. Blake racked up 10 assists while knocking down his jumper. Przybilla came in and was a defensive factor. Outlaw (finally!) bailed us out with his crazy shots like only Outlaw can. Bayless was aggressive going to the hoop and getting FTs.
Channeling Holton, you might say that with Chef Brandon out, the Blazers made this game a potluck, and everybody brought something to the table.
What's the deal with the jersey contest?
I thought I had to log in to check the scores and now I have 20 points. I’ve never filled out a single form for this month.
The second half of the game was fun to watch.
I was upset by the ineffectual Zone too
but I chalk some of that up to the fact that these players don’t seem to know each other well. Not only Oden but also Pryz ended up isolated on the perimeter, and Blake ended up trying to block out somebody on the weak side. Thus Zones give up offensive rebounds, and maybe the reason for the uncharacteristic RB numbers tonight? McDyess seemed to key on this.
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
lol that was a zone in the first half?
I thought it was just a bunch of clueless dudes playing tiddlywinks. The guards were particulary bad in the first half on defense. And by bad I mean vomitous.
Spot on recap though, the second half pretty much belonged to the Blazers. Detroit got tired. Portland got fired up.
Blazer Fan
Observaciones
- The arena got louder, and louder, and louder (I mean loud), as the game went on. Early on I think the scattering of Detroit fans were more vocal than we were. I even heard the De-troit Bask-et-ball bellow throughout the first half. Second half, not so much!
- Bayless not only looked more comfortable, he looked like he wanted to wrestle the ball away from everyone, teammates included, and rip it to shreds as he slammed it home. Not the greatest game ever, but he showed an emerging identity all his own and I bet he has a sh*t-eating grin on his face this morning.
- I’ve now seen enough of Oden to not worry about that performance. I know what he can do, and he will do it all over opponents for years to come.
- Travis Outlaw has guts, wants the big shot, and can make it. We hate his bone-headedness, but he doesn’t wilt and just keeps elevating at just the right moments. Remember the baseline dunk against Boston? I’m starting to like him more and more, even though I still pull my hair out once in a while.
- Rudy seemed out of control a few too many times, but I thought good things happened when we attacked the basket.
All in all, this is a young team to be proud of, to be grateful for, and to enjoy watching as they develop the next few years.
Quote from the future: “NBA Champs Portland defeat LeBron’s Knicks in 7 games for the 2011 championship. Roy scores 38. Oden adds 25 and gathers 14 rebounds.”
last shot time
’He’ll make you pull your hair out, elicit screams at your TV, and be the subject of 92 trade posts. But when all’s said and done, even if he’s sat out most of the game, if it comes down to one shot at the end of Game 7 of the NBA Finals he’ll still be on the short list of people considered to take it.’
Just how many in the league can take and make that last second shot??? It’s a coveted skill, and enough to make him a Blazer forever.
that's what I'm hoping
It doesn't mean you should just because you can. Like Abraham and Ishmael, fighting over sand - it doesn't mean you should just because you can. That is a fact of life. - Adrian Belew
12 years, not
It’s 12 years of experience only if you count this year. If you don’t count this year, then it is 7, five for Stevie and two for LMA. That’s a ridiculous number for the NBA, it tells you something about Nate and KP, and it tells me that there will probably be some ups and (especially) downs in the coming months. Stay patient.
iverson re blake
Blake was having problems guarding Iverson. At one point it appeared that Iverson waived his hands in the air at Blake as it to say “hey, I’m over here!”

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