Grizzlies waive Darius Miles
by OdenRoyLMA on Jan 6, 2009 10:07 PM PST
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The Grizzlies waived Darius Miles soon after their 94-87 loss to the Minnesota Timberwolves. The 6-9 forward was told of the team’s decision before the players and coaches boarded a plane for New Jersey where the Griz play tonight.
A decision whether to guarantee Miles for the rest of the season had to be reached by 5 p.m. today.
Griz general manager Chris Wallace said cutting Miles, who signed a nonguaranteed deal on Dec. 12, had more to do with the injury to center Darko Milicic than Miles’ ability.
Milicic will miss 4-6 weeks with a broken hand.
Miles, meanwhile, had a respectable showing in limited action on the court. He appeared to be in good condition and was active on both ends of the floor. Despite missing his two shot attempts and going scoreless, Miles blocked two shots and grabbed a couple of rebounds.
Miles can still sign a 10-day contract with the Griz or another NBA team. He said Wallace gave him no indication if the Griz planned to bring him back.
With the Griz, Miles was able to serve his 10-game suspension for violating the league’s drug policy. He appeared in two games. If he plays in eight more this season Miles’ $9 million salary goes back on Portland’s payroll for this season and 2009-10.
Portland waived Miles after they determined he hadn’t recovered from microfracture surgery on his right knee in November 2006. He hadn’t played an NBA regular-season game since April 15, 2006.
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the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ is back on the table. Come on Darius, wouldn’t you rather go into coaching/work with kids/go back to school than try to squeeze 8 more games out? :)
Bayless has been testing the fences for weaknesses
I don't know
in what way can he help a team? If this was a few years ago maybe, but while he’s still a young guy, Darius has been around long enough that the buzz around his early promise is dead. Plus, he doesn’t have the best reputation, there’s better swingman options in the D-league if you ask me.
Bayless has been testing the fences for weaknesses
by blazeraddict on Jan 6, 2009 10:19 PM PST up reply actions
he can help a team...
… by hurting Portland’s caproom, thus removing one of the contenders for free agents.
Boomshakalaka
If such coalition exists
then I’m calling them the Axis of Evil
Bayless has been testing the fences for weaknesses
by blazeraddict on Jan 6, 2009 10:29 PM PST up reply actions
No, there isn't
If he plays again this year, he’ll be signed to a guaranteed contract for the rest of the year. So he’ll be with whichever team signs him in the next 3 days (i.e. none)
so wait, 10 day contracts are no longer an option
after the trade dedline?
December 18, 2008.
"Roy is Roy, and if I were to bet my life on a game of 5-on-5, I’d bet on whichever team Roy was playing on." by HurraKane212
correct
its highly unlikely someone would sign him at this point…unless they are signing with the pure intention to screw us. oh man if denver or utah did it…I don’t know what i’d do.
by Philthyanimal on Jan 7, 2009 4:41 PM PST up reply actions
That's true
but I don’t see a legitimate contender (despite the Celtics audition in the pre-season) wanting him, he won’t help a re-building effort, and while being a GM is a messy game, getting a reputation for doing something like that can’t help you when you’re trying to make deals happen. Pollyannaish outlook to some extent, but I can’t see a GM burning bridges for Darius’ impact on the Blazers cap space. Of course, I also couldn’t have seen a GM signing Joe Smith to an $80 million under the table deal, crippling their franchise, and yet keeping their job, so stranger things have taken place.
Bayless has been testing the fences for weaknesses
by blazeraddict on Jan 6, 2009 10:26 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
So he's going to Minnesota?
But McHale isn’t the GM anymore so maybe not. :-)
by danielfarrell on Jan 7, 2009 8:01 AM PST up reply actions
What Minnesota did with Smith was nothing out of the ordinary.
What was, was the owner commenting on it publically.
hakkaa päälle !
Only if you live in a world where there is a conspiracy behind everything.
BTW – give my regards to timbo, as you are now in his world.
hakkaa päälle !
Tillery writes for the Memphis Commericial Appeal or whatever their paper is called
He has that Blog on the side, but he’s also a print guy who follows the team.
by Bust a Bucket on Jan 6, 2009 10:47 PM PST up reply actions
Is this an april fools thing?
Despite what Dave would have you believe, this is real good news. Not having do deal with all the ifs ands and buts about this extra 9 million dollars really frees us up to make a couple big splashes instead of just one dip in the pool, while having to give up on one of our youngsters.
We might even be able to put up good enough offers to make the Mavs or Jazz give up Millsap or Bass.
Bass would be nice, he always has a good game against us.
"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."
This is hilarious
my brother is a diehard blazer fan but he has been a diehard Miles fan almost as long, so whenever Miles gets cut he always get angry at the blazers for ruining his career. He’s convinced the blazers have been spending PA money by paying off every NBA team that picks him up to drop him
Does your brother have an account on here?
I want to LOL at him. LOL.
"I never scored more than 38, even in Little League." ~ Roy, 52 pts
you should tell your brother
that conspiracy theories are a bit passe
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
i'm not sure anyone would pick him up in this economy just to screw us...
wouldn’t he get $500k guaranteed? that’s a lot for the owners of a crappy team and for a has been cancer. i can see Boston, Cleveland, and other legit teams take a 10 day chance since they have the money and the locker room to stand him but other than that, i don’t see any takers.
"Step up to my mic!!!" Joel's right and left fist
On NBATV
David Aldridge reported that if Miles contract goes back on Portland’s books, Portland would then be a luxury tax payer. Portland would pay into the pot that is distributed to the non-luxury tax teams at the end of the year.
So if you are a potential non-luxury tax team, taking on a couple of his very small 10-day contracts could be very beneficial to you and any other team in that situation. (I’m sure making you very popular with some ownerships.)
If this is true, I am 100% convinced now that Darius will play 10 games. Storyteller…please tell me I’m wrong.
Yup, it was a TrueHoop article with a salary expert I linked in my post on the Darius situation
Still, teams seem not too openly focused on screwing Portland just for the heck of it. Otherwise Memphis could have signed, played, and waived Miles far early to give him the ten games. But we shouldn’t feel all safe either, now that he served his suspension he becomes more attractive again.
If I heard right
A team would actually make money by playing Darius 8 more games. Lose a very little now and gain it back and more in the summer. Seems like a no-brainer to me, no matter how much I want to yak as I type this.
Not really
Having Darius on our salary cap would make the Blazers a luxury tax payer respectively push us deeper into it (apart from all other consequences) by about 8 million. Each non-taxpaying team would receive 1/30 of that, or ca. $263,300. Not a lot, but some teams might still find that attractive (e.g. Denver and Orlando are doing some pretty wild things to stay under the luxury tax). On the other hand, Darius minimum salary is about $580,000, getting smaller as the remaining season progresses.
I would think
that each non luxury tax paying team would get 1/(30-# of luxury tax paying teams) worth of the luxury tax. Seems weird that luxury tax paying teams would be getting luxury tax dollars back.
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
i think he means
that if there are twenty teams elligable to recive, then twenty of the thirty slices will be dished out, one to each elligable team. the remaining ten, would be lumped back up ande used as the league sees fit. i just figured it was devided by the number of elligable teams, oh well
December 18, 2008.
"Roy is Roy, and if I were to bet my life on a game of 5-on-5, I’d bet on whichever team Roy was playing on." by HurraKane212
Precisely
Only if the league decided to distribute a part of the remaining tax money instead of using it for operations or something they would have to split that among all teams, so even luxury tax payers could get a little of their money back (might happen in these economic times).
I can't guarantee
that he won’t play in 10 games this season. Sorry.
I can almost guarantee that if he does, KP will appeal to the league to have his salary removed again. I heard him say so back in October.
And my personal opinion is that the Blazers would win such an appeal.
thats a good point
as the rule about having the money count against the original teams cap was to keep that player from coming back to the original team.
question: If the Blazers get stuck with Miles’ salary against our cap space because Darius plays in a few games and loses some sort of appeal, could the Blazers sue the doctor (and the NBA) who declared his injuries career ending?
This is just such a weird case.
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
Just an additional question
Wouldn’t it be split equally between the nontaxpaying teams? I don’t know how many that is…maybe 18 or 20? That would be a slightly bigger sum.
How much would Darius be payed on each of his 10 day contracts?
I’m not trying to be a smarty pants, I just don’t know the answer to these questions.
Teams under the tax level receive a full franchise share (1/30) of the tax money collected from the tax paying teams (if the league would expand, the fraction would change). Some or all of the remaining money may be used by the league for “league purposes” (Dave Sterns Christmas bonus, ha ha). Any remaining tax money that is distributed to teams must go to all teams in equal shares.
Don’t know how much exactly Darius or any player for that matter would be owed for a 10 day contract (after 2 they would have to guarantee him anyway). A year’s minimum salary for a player of his experience divided by 82 times the number of games he plays maybe? Or divided by 365 times 10 days?
It's my understanding
that a 10 day contract counts against the cap using this formula:
Yearly salary amount / 170 * 10
[170 being the number of days in the regular season this year]
I’m assuming he would be paid the same amount.
For Darius:
$964,636 / 170 * 10 = $56,743
So
The team that plays Darius stands to make 200,000 or so. And the other non-tax teams 250,000 or so. Seems like a team would receive good will from a lot of teams and the ire of KP.
I hope you are right about the appeal.
IRE OF KP > good will of all other teams
Fear the Pryzpocalypse
by postup on Jan 7, 2009 11:02 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
More like under $100,000
as it would likely take a minimum of two day contracts in order that Miles would have 8 games available to play in. And that assumes he gets in every game during that 20 day stretch.
After that, I believe a team has to guarantee a player for the remainder of the season if they want him past 2 ten-day contracts.
hakkaa päälle !
how duz darko getting hurt translate into miles getting waived?
unless there gonna need to rplace darko and need the roster spot mile represented
December 18, 2008.
"Roy is Roy, and if I were to bet my life on a game of 5-on-5, I’d bet on whichever team Roy was playing on." by HurraKane212
It doesn't matter, Miles is a superstar
Clearly there will be a huge line for his services. After all, Memphis is stacked at all positions….there just wasn’t room.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Blazer Fan
You called it
If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President
I think most GM/Owners know..
You don’t really want Pritchard and Allen to view you as an enemy. You will be assimilated.
I hope Miles does make it back
Many keep hanging on to the hope that he won’t. We have enough chips and RLEC to make something good happen. We have options. We are in a great place! This is someone’s life here. Yes he blew it while here but I love a good redemption story more than just about anything else.
I'm a little confused by your tactics
by oderiferous emanations 74 on Jan 7, 2009 8:28 AM PST reply actions
I cant feel likewise
its hard for me to feel sorry for Darius, or any over-paid athlete for that matter. Not sure idolizing any pro athlete is something I can do. Maybe if he gives it another shot and then totally blows up his knee so he has to get around in a motorized scooter adorned with a paint job of Thomas Jefferson cultivating his crop of Chinese hemp, with a smoking pipe next to the machete, then yea maybe.
Until then, Shawshank on DVD my only feel-good redemption story.
"The mounting minde that climes the hauty cliftes...Intoxicats the braine with guiddy drifts, Then rowles, and reeles, and falles at length plum ripe" .--- From Thomas Hughes’ 1588 The Misfortunes of Arthur:
One of my favorite movies. I also love Life As A House. Good stuff
I'm a little confused by your tactics
by oderiferous emanations 74 on Jan 7, 2009 8:51 AM PST up reply actions
Get busy playin' or get busy retiring
"The mounting minde that climes the hauty cliftes...Intoxicats the braine with guiddy drifts, Then rowles, and reeles, and falles at length plum ripe" .--- From Thomas Hughes’ 1588 The Misfortunes of Arthur:
I hope that Miles
is able to live a healthy life. I hope that any future activities he might pursue don’t bring further injury to those knees. I’m not sure that continuing to play in the NBA is compatible with those hopes, however, so I can’t say that I hope he makes it back to playing in the NBA.
It may be his life,, but he is also being paid 9 million a year, I could survive the rest of my life by taking half of that and putting it into an annuity. I could surrvive rather confortablly, so screw his life, he has a grudge and so do we, but we are atleast paying him, he isn’t doing anything for us!
by carlitosbonitos on Jan 7, 2009 10:52 AM PST up reply actions
thank you jscot for brining this post to my attention
and therefore letting me bypass some heckling for my post of the same topic that i just deleted. anywho, YAY!!!!
"I saw him in the face"
by RoodiePhirnandizz on Jan 7, 2009 10:08 AM PST reply actions
why doesent Miles
go and play in Europe where he will face less games and thus save his knees all while going against good competition and a possible return to the NBA when or if he gets his athleticism back.
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
The Clippers have a new roster spot and don't care much about team chemistry (Ricky Davis, Z-Bo)
They could claim him off waivers after already working him out a month ago. Or just wait until he has cleared waivers and the deadline has passed, then pick him up for another unguaranteed contract. Muahahahaha evil Dunleavy >:-)
Smoke screen
You must be standing in Dariuseses’ blunt smoke cloud if you think a team isn’t going to sign him to a 10-day contract. Especially now that his weed suspension is outta the way. heck, the celts might even snatch him up. Cutting him was just a standard cost cutting move by the Griz. The only hope for Blazers management now is Darius gets busted for herb again or gets injured again. Neither out of the question, but still long shots.
The comments about other teams’ GMs not signing Darius so as not to create an enemy are laughable. Other GMs jobs are on the line. If you can get an edge over your opponent, you do it. An east coast team would have little incentive. A west coast team has a huge incentive, especially if they are trying to resign a player and don’t want him to leave for a bigger contract in ’09.
The appeal to have the contract stricken from the cap is an interesting idea and worth a shot because Blazers have nothing to lose. However, given that Stern is a lawyer and dictator he will probably say something like “You signed the contract, live with it” all the while receiving a reacharound from larger market clubs who also will be in the hunt of this off-seasons thin market and the 2010 huge market.
he didn't get busted for weed
he was taking a a drug to make himself lose weight, not gain it.
Activate Shavlik Randolph
Funny D-Miles youtube link
oops that didn’t cut/paste right…. here it is > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m_G0tq2MHg
by oLLiE Boombayay on Jan 7, 2009 4:13 PM PST up reply actions
This assumes you have great insight to how GM's think....
… as the driving logic behind your argument is that the reason to sign Miles is to try and hurt Portland from a salary cap perspective.
If this is in fact how (at least some) GM’s think, then you still have to overlook such factors as how this might impact a GM’s reputation, his ability to make deals with other GM’s and the impact, appearance wise, on a possible Portland appeal. If signing Miles to limit Portland is the intent, Prichard has much better grounds for an appeal.
I’m not saying that it is unlikely anyone picks up Miles. But I wouldn’t put the odds any higher than 50 -50, and that’s probably too generous.
hakkaa päälle !
I know what everybody thinks...
Just kidding, GMs don’t make sense to me except when they do things to save their job. Actually I think the main reason a team would sign D-miles is to see if he still has any game left. The Blazer salary cap thing is just a bonus. Miles will play for minimum so it is an easy call to sign him to a 10-day contract.
It would be hard impossible to prove that a GM/team did this just to screw the Blazers, don’t you think? Especially a bad team with an injury, but really any team with an open spot. I could absolutely see Mark Cuban picking up Miles and telling the coach to use him in garbage time.
Side note: It is no secret that the Grizzlies are not happy with the lottery system that has never given them a number one. Perhaps some retribution for the Oden draft?
by oLLiE Boombayay on Jan 7, 2009 4:28 PM PST up reply actions
I can see a team trying him out, if they thought he might help.
A GM would be remiss in his job if he didn’t. My 50 – 50 odds reflect that. I would only argue that it is not a sure thing, due to the fact that Miles hasn’t appeared to demonstrate he has much game left (although rust could be a factor) and the number of teams that either he could possibly help and/or have the roster space, appear limited.
hakkaa päälle !
2 blocks aint bad
December 18, 2008.
"Roy is Roy, and if I were to bet my life on a game of 5-on-5, I’d bet on whichever team Roy was playing on." by HurraKane212
Indeed
It was weight loss supplement, so basically a form of speed. However, I believe he was busted for weed before this. Also if you take one look at the guy you know he puffs cheeba. check out this video clip at 21 sec. and tell me Darius doesn’t spark up.
I don’t think he is dumb enough to get caught for the supplement again, but that SoCal bomb diggie is hard to resist if he is going to tryout for Clippers redux.
I won't
Ever cheer for a player to be held out of the league, or root for an injury, or anything like that. It would be great to have the money saved from him not playing, but if he can play then it is selfish of us to root against him so strongly. He may be one of the many players who spurned our trust, but still we are better fans than that.
I think it’s sad that as a fan base we are rooting against a single individual for our own personal gain, it really isn’t how I see this sites personality. Darius is still not 100% I think that is obvious, and it seems slightly odd that teams are willing to sign him and play him in garbage time knowing about the 10 game issue, if he is signed to a 10 day contract, and then let go after playing the final 8 games, then you can be assured the Blazers wont be held accountable for the contract.
If a team signs him just to spurn the Blazers, we will not be held accountable for his contract. Unless he plays significantly for a team, or is signed for the remainder of the season I think we are clear. This will go to court, I’m almost positive.
Roy To The World
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 7, 2009 4:42 PM PST reply actions
I don't want his knee, I want his life!
{Takes apple off your cafeteria tray.}
No one will probably get that reference.
The Grizzlies with more wheeling and dealing
Today they acquired Shaun Livingston and cash from the Heat for a 2nd rounder, then waived him. They just wanted the cash. Maybe that’s what they needed Darius’ spot for?
bummer
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