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The Darius Miles Chronicles


I’m trying my best here to summarize the Darius conundrum as it currently presents itself. I tried to check the facts as good as possible. There probably are errors or I’m too subjective, so please all CBA/salary experts correct me in the comments. Or just speculate on what happens next ;-)

 

Star-divide

What the Blazers did:

Darius Miles, once a promising young forward signed to a long-term contract until 2010, has not played a game for Portland since April 15, 2006 after undergoing microfracture surgery on his right knee. A lengthy rehab didn’t seem to help, and thus the team started a process known as “medical retirement” or “career-ending injury” to have an independenct doctor certify that he is unfit to play basketball in the NBA - forever. Purpose: Free a roster spot, get an insurance company to pay most of his outstanding salary, and free up valuable cap space ($18 million over two seasons left on his contract). That process was completed this spring. But Darius wasn’t satisfied to end his career this way, kept working on a comeback with independent trainers (e.g. a famous training academy in Chicago once making MJ fit for a comeback), and now it looks like he is succeeding.

 

Couldn’t KP have kept him? Or traded him? Was that a major mistake?

A trade at the time of retirement or now: With his well publicized injury history and off-court issues, teams have been reluctant to take Darius on for the league minimum for a veteran of his experience. Do you think a team would have traded for a Darius with an $18 million price tag?

A trade in 2010: After all, Darius would have become an expiring contract in 2010, the year when everybody and their brother tries to come under the cap to acquire one of the many major free agent (LeBron, Wade, Amare, Bosh, …). Didn’t Pritchard see that he potentially would be highly valuable then, the DMEC? We can assume the Blazers did see that, and made a conscious “addition by subtraction” decision that it was better to clear a roster spot and ideally get him off the books. Even as it stands now, I think the Blazers handled the situation correctly (at least from a business perspective).

 

The current situation

After going to training camp with the Boston Celtics, he looked pretty good in a few pre-season games, but the Celtics ultimately shied the risk and went with a younger version of him: Bill Walker. Now he has found a new home with the Memphis Grizzlies. He served his suspension for violating the NBA’s anti-drug policy there (apparently handed out for the use of a weight loss drug), spending five games on their active and five games on their inactive list which was enough to fulfill this requirement. A report in the Memphis Commercial Appeal over the weekend stated that the Grizzlies staff and players are pretty happy with how he performed in training for them albeit admitting that he is not yet back in game shape. They even praised his leadership skills, which is not completely void of irony. Is Darius really the kind of veteran you want around your young players like Mayo and Gay you hope to develop into the cornerstones of your franchise? Yesterday on January 4th, he appeared in his first regular season game since April 2006, playing in the final two minutes in a win against the Dallas Mavericks and recording a big fat zero in all stats.

 

Now what?

An interesting deadline is fast approaching: All contracts become guaranteed on January 10th. Until then, the Grizzlies have to decide (after seeing him in training and in max. three more games against Minnesota, New Jersey and Toronto) if it is worth it to keep him on their books. If they release him, all bets are off. Well, not really. He could still get the required number of games this year or (with less consequences for the Blazers) next year with another team. After having served his suspension that seems quite likely. After playing in ten games, his outstanding salary comes back on the Blazers cap.

 

Does it matter? We have cap space en masse

Actually, we don’t. At least not as much as you might think. According to various salary info sites (e.g. BE’s own Storyteller’s excellent website http://www.storytellercontracts.com, or Shamsports), the Blazers would have committed about $35 million in salary in the summer of 2009, including small cap holds for our unsigned draft picks (Petteri, Freeland) and a mid to late first round pick. Depending on how high the salary cap will be (it’s usually increasing, but in the current economy it could actually go down a bit) that leaves the Blazers with about $25 million in cap room. That however is before we take on the last year of the contracts of Steve Blake ($4 million) and Travis Outlaw ($3.6 million). We wouldn’t want to let those two just walk away leaving us empty handed, right? So even if we would trade them, salary would come back. Subtract that, and we are left with about $17.4 million. Remember, that is with Raef already off the books, and not having traded him for additional salary! Then come the restricted free agents Channing and Ike, who having been high first round picks would command pretty big qualifying offers and thus (temporary) cap holds of ca. $9.5 and $8.75 million respectively. Only if we would trade those for expiring contracts or just renounce their rights we would still have that cap space. We could quickly re-sign one of them for significantly less money of course, but he won’t play here for free. Subtract $9 million for Darius, and you are left with not all that much, severely limiting our chances to acquire a major free agent next season. There are still options, but I suppose it makes a trade (including Raef) much more likely.

 

Are they doing this on purpose?

Nobody knows for sure. Coach Ivaroni and GM Wallace have claimed repeatedly that they don’t do this with the intend of reducing the Blazers cap space but to get help from Miles as a player. Yet, they would have a vested interest in it: They are among less than a handful of teams who would have enough cap space in 2009 to go after a major free agent, along with e.g. OKC - and the Blazers.

In fact, most other teams have a small interest to “stick it to the Blazers” in this situation. They keep a potential major competitor with less cap flexibility, and we can be sure they have taken notice of the rising Blazers. And then there is this little tidbit from TrueHoop (http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-36-21/Math-With-Darius.html)

•    In addition to the aforementioned $18 million over two season, the Blazers would go from $1.08 million under the luxury tax line, to $7.9 million over the cap for 2008-09, money they'd owe to the league in luxury taxes.   

•    By virtue of being a luxury taxpayer, the Blazers would lose a first payout of about $3.5 million.

•    Blazers would miss out on $14.4 million in insurance compensation they would have claimed had Miles been inactive. By playing ten games, Miles essentially proves the doctors wrong and, therefore, can't legitimately be regarded as having a career-ending injury.   

•    Each non-taxpaying team would receive 1/30 of $7.9 million, or $263,300.  That might not buy your team an impact player, but it's more than chump change.

 

What can the Blazers do then?

Paul Allen can apply for co-ownership of the Memphis Grizzlies, claiming he already pays Steve Francis and Darius Miles and thus about 1/4th of the real salary of that team ☺ Well, not really.

The Blazers might (and likely will at least try to) appeal that Darius’ salary comes back on their books, claiming that the Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA) and associated documents between the NBA and NBA players association (NBPA) did not intend that. That might be the most interesting part of this story for our future flexibility (Darius as an opposing player is pretty much a non-issue for the Blazers), completely eliminating the “threat” of the cap space hit. How likely is it that the Blazers will have success with that? I don’t know, and so far I haven’t heard from an expert/lawyer who really would know for sure. Different opinions are out there. Obviously Blazers officials (e.g. Assistant GM and cap expert Tom Penn) are keeping mum about the situation now until this problem really arises, after already creating stories in the press about potential HIPAA violations in the summer when KP talked about certain details of Miles medical status (http://www.portlandtribune.com/sports/story.php?story_id=121693653261551200, worst microfracture injury, knee replacement surgery, etc.). Darius (especially in interviews with the media in Boston, e.g. inthis article) and his agent have stated repeatedly that they were disappointed in how the Blazers handled the situation. Yet now they claim that they are just interested in the comeback with the Grizzlies, and would wish this could work without the Blazers taking the cap hit (of course not without getting his full salary).

So from this point on there are mainly speculations out there, and few hard facts (http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=827526). Some people claim the intention of this provision in the latest CBA was to keep teams from dumping older injury-prone players with expensive contracts (let’s say Allen Houston with the NY Knicks), renegotiating their deals, and re-signing them for less money. This of course is not in the interest of the NBPA who tries to maximize player salaries, and not in the interest of competitors. It was not really intended for a situation when a player gets medically retired, then comes back with another team. The provision is written in a complex and somewhat vague legal lingo that still doesn’t account for all cases. Why is there no team-independent doctor required to make a new diagnosis deeming the player fit for service again? Why should his former team be punished twice for this, paying his salary (which he earned/was guaranteed) and taking the cap hit for a player who no longer renders his services to them? It is unclear when the right time to appeal this cap hit would be if the player re-injures himself and has to retire again for the same reason. At the end of his comeback season, so e.g. July 1st? After another year? 

Here is the original text from the CBA (respectively an accompanying document between the insurance company and the NBA) referring to the situation in question. Especially section 4 could become important.

“(h) Long-Term Injuries. Any player who suffers a career-ending injury or illness, and whose contract is terminated by the Team in accordance with the NBA waiver procedure, will be excluded from his Team’s Team Salary as follows:

(1) Beginning on the first anniversary of the injury or illness, the Team may apply to the NBA to have the player’s Salary for each remaining Salary Cap Year covered by the Contract excluded from Team Salary.

(2) The determination of whether a player has suffered a career-ending injury or illness shall be made by a physician selected jointly by the NBA and the Players Association.

(3) Notwithstanding Section 4(h)(1) and (2) above, the career-ending injury or illness of a player who plays in more than ten (10) games in any Season shall not be deemed to have occurred prior to the last game in which the player played in such Season.

(4) Notwithstanding Section 4(h)(1) and (2) above, if after a player’s Salary is excluded from Team Salary in accordance with this Section 4(h), the player plays in ten (10) NBA games in any Season, the excluded Salary for the Salary Cap Year covering such Season and each subsequent Salary Cap Year shall thereupon be included in Team Salary (and if the tenth game played is a playoff game, then the excluded Salary shall be included in Salary retroactively as of the start of the Team’s last Regular Season game). After a player’s Salary for one (1) or more Salary Cap Years has been included in Team Salary in accordance with this Section 4(h)(4), the player’s Team shall be permitted at the appropriate time to re-apply to have the player’s Salary (for each Salary Cap Year remaining at the time of the re-application) excluded from Team Salary in accordance with the rules set forth in this Section 4(h).”

 

Are other teams interested in getting this situation clearly defined, and would support the Blazers in such a motion?

Maybe. The Cleveland Cavaliers have Eric Snow medically retired, but it’s very unlikely he makes any comeback from his current job as studio analyst for NBA TV. Also, the New York Knicks might be highly interested in getting newly acquired Cuttino Mobley (dangerous heart condition) off their books to further save cap space. But it’s a rare situation, and Darius’ specific case has never been tested before to my knowledge. He is the first player trying to come back from being declared “medically retired”. Not even guys like Alonzo Mourning (kidney transplant) or Ethan Thomas and Rony Turiaf (open heart surgery) ever had that status. Maybe other teams are also interested in getting the rules clearly interpreted once and for all, maybe not (see “Are they doing this on purpose?”). What does the NBA and NBPA want? I really don’t know. Maybe they had hoped that the situation would just go away by itself.

 

What happens next?

As stated above, January 10 is an important date (next Saturday). All contracts become guaranteed for the remainder of the season, and if the Grizzlies don’t release Miles by then, they commit about $580k to him for this year. If that happens, you can basically rest assured that he will log his ten games this year, triggering all other actions. The saga continues.

 

Update:

Miles played 7 minutes in another game for the Grizzlies, recording 2 blocks and 2 rebounds (1 offensive, 1 defensive). The same evening, the Grizzlies informed him they would waive him again on Wednesday, most likely to look for a short-term replacement for injured C/PF Darko Milicic (Update: They also did a deal with Miami involving Shaun Livingston and cash for a second round pick, who was subsequently waived as well). Are we safe? For now we are, albeit having served his suspension was an important step in any comeback, and you can still sign players for quite some time this season regardless of the deadline mentioned above. Having less of a chance to just bring him in and "kick the tires" might make cash-strapped GMs weary to give him another shot. The reasons why it still might make (business) sense to "stick it to the Blazers" remain, only opposing GMs seem not as intent on it as Blazer fans might have feared (see Danny Ainge). If Darius would only play in the 2009/10 season, also only the then remaining part of his salary would come back on our books and cap (and we wouldn't have a lot in the summer of 2010 anyway as it stands now).

Update 2:

In a surprising development, Yahoo's Adrian Wojnarowski reported that according to the league office the 6 pre-season games he played for Boston actually count towards the number of games he played this season. That would bring the number of games left before he comes back on our cap down to 2, achievable with a ten day contract (at least preliminary until a decision regarding an appeal the Blazers would very likely file based on the intention of the CBA as described above would have been made - a process that has not been used before so the outcome is hard to predict).

The Blazers reacted by sending an email to all other teams warning them to not sign Miles to a short-term contract for pure business reasons in bad faith, threatening litigation.

 

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Not much we can do about it

but watch. But I’m going to rec you for a very nice, well thought out post! Nice job.

My favorite teams are the Blazers and any team that is playing the Lakers.

by OCBlazerFan1 on Jan 5, 2009 2:57 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I don't want to go there

but maybe if he tweaked his knee (not serious, but enough to get the Griz to think about it), the Griz would release him and he would be content with staying retiring.

by Bust a Bucket on Jan 5, 2009 2:57 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Who has Tonya Harding's number on speed-dial?

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace." Jimi Hendrix

by philly420pdxhilo on Jan 5, 2009 5:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I swear...

Jeff Gillooly, er Stone was the roomate of one of my wife’s friends oh so many years ago. I feel lucky my wife survived long enough for me to meet her…

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace." Jimi Hendrix

by philly420pdxhilo on Jan 5, 2009 11:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

have you ever done Kareoke at BackAlley off Mill Plain in VanTucky?

Tonya is a regular there. That is my favorite kareoke bar north of the border/river.

Gotta love that crowd. Cigarettes, lotto tickets, booze, child beatings, meth…. ahhhh, I miss the good old days.

by Bust a Bucket on Jan 5, 2009 11:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's a long commute for me now...

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace." Jimi Hendrix

by philly420pdxhilo on Jan 6, 2009 1:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I believe the Blazers can protest if he does play in 10 games

and have the money not go on the books. There have to be the right conditions though. If he played in 20 games then blew out the knee again, the ‘Zers could protest and not have to pay the money as the medical retirement was obviously the right call.
The other one, that I want to say I saw in the fine print of an article but can’t find, would allow a protest if he play in 10+ games but only plays garbage minutes. I think the argument on this one is that he didn’t play enough to prove that he was fully healthy and the medical retirement is voided.
I’d wager the Blazer’s legal staff has the documents written up and ready to file depending on how the season plays out. The worst thing that could happen is for Darius to play and average 10 or more significant minutes (non-garbage time) a game and show that he is healthy enough to play. Anything other than that and I’m not overly worried about the consequences to the cap.

by schlick on Jan 5, 2009 3:14 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I wait until Saturday

but I like what you’ve done here.

"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"

by Magnum on Jan 5, 2009 3:21 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

wow.

amazing post, thanks for all the hard work—this should be on the front page.

"It's like, 'Urrrrrrgh!'" Rodriguez says, his cupped hands turning into fists. "It is a good feeling. Good feeling."

by sergioFTW on Jan 5, 2009 3:26 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Rec for the research

Lots of stuff I didn’t know.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Jan 5, 2009 3:28 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

This post was tooooooo long

(jk)

Homer: "Yikes....a bear is eating my father!!"
Selma: "I'm Selma"
Homer: "A talking bear is eating my father!!"

by 92wastheyear on Jan 5, 2009 3:31 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

I thought you were using...

….StephenKing-o-graph ( which promises to expand your word count twelve-fold) by Ronco

Homer: "Yikes....a bear is eating my father!!"
Selma: "I'm Selma"
Homer: "A talking bear is eating my father!!"

by 92wastheyear on Jan 5, 2009 3:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's under 2500 words

Not even half a Bill Simmons column. I just couldn’t come up with good Rocky, Shawshank and Entourage comparisons and jokes. Dave is the man for that, I fully expect him to get his own column on Yahoo/SI/ESPN in a few years.

by Norsktroll on Jan 5, 2009 3:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I liked your post really

What’s more…I like Stephen King too. Long is not bad…..many cases it is good. I use brief-itude cause I am lazy

Homer: "Yikes....a bear is eating my father!!"
Selma: "I'm Selma"
Homer: "A talking bear is eating my father!!"

by 92wastheyear on Jan 5, 2009 3:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

forget stephen king

Try Robert Jordan. the man’s books were so long he couldn’t even finish the 12th before he died.

Greg Oden, where posters happen.

by ratbastird on Jan 5, 2009 3:52 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

+1

for the Robert Jordan reference. His writing reminds me of that scene in Pee Wee’s big adventure where he has the meeting in the basement:

“It’s like you’re unraveling a cable knit sweater but some just keeps knitting…annnnndd KNITTING AAAANNNDDD KNITTING AND KNITTTING….” “Pee Wee snap out of it!”

He's Coming! Oden Slayer of Giants

by Idog1976 on Jan 5, 2009 4:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Have you ever read

the Patrick O Brian series that started with the book, made into a movie with Russell Crowe, called Master and Commander? It’s a great series that could benefit by having about 50% edited out. But the books are so well written and the stories are so captivating that they’re well worth reading. The movie is on my top 5 list of favorites. That is not to say that every one of Norsktroll’s words isn’t riveting. :-}

"Aneurysm".

When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie

by annthefan on Jan 5, 2009 6:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It was soooo riveting

I can still feel the rivets

Homer: "Yikes....a bear is eating my father!!"
Selma: "I'm Selma"
Homer: "A talking bear is eating my father!!"

by 92wastheyear on Jan 5, 2009 9:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

...and these are the Days of Our Lives.

"When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car"

by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Jan 5, 2009 3:41 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Informative and well done

Is taking him in a trade and buying him out an option?

by southern oregon on Jan 5, 2009 3:44 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I don't see that as a viable option

First as part of the trade he would need to pass a physical. If he passed the physical it would likely bring the validity of the medical retirement into question and the insurance company would probably sue to get their money back.

Second buying him out would make him a free agent and he would still be able to get the required number of games played to go back on the Blazers cap

by tingeyga on Jan 5, 2009 5:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I noticed you left out one of our options...

well, one of Paul Allen’s options, really.

When you’re as wealthy as Paul, you can have certain things done… certain things that will make your own life easier. But that seems too harsh and too dark, so we’ll go with simply hiring a Private Investigator… no, a team of P.I.‘s to dig as much dirt up on every other owner in the league… then we’ll blackmail them all to keep Darius off their rosters.

This would probably cost much less than actually having to pay that malcontent.

"When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car"

by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Jan 5, 2009 3:49 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

the sweetest scenario...

is memphis actually paying him 1/2 million, playing him garbage time, and then the blazers winning the appeal. nothing would burn memphis more – or make chris wallace look like an even bigger chump around the league – than costing his dirt cheap owner a 1/2 million dollars for nothing.

the KU fraternity, to which pritchard belongs, stretches throughout the league. this type of move might come back to haunt wallace the next time he’s looking for an assistant gm job.

by goonerluke on Jan 5, 2009 4:09 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

KP needs to offer them something for cutting Miles

You cut Miles and we’ll give you Frye and… some, just some, of our 2nd round pick stash.

Just a thought.

Hey what if we did trade for the Miles? And we played him, wouid that take him off the books? Or stop the hemerogiing of our billionaire owner…

My head hurts. Good post.

by Blazersaurus on Jan 5, 2009 4:48 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Well, you can suspend a player with pay under the current CBA, and ask him to stay away from the team. That doesn't help your cap though

Basically what the Pacers are doing with Tinsley while they are looking for a trade (he is in ATL and not with the team), and the Knicks should have done with Marbury to begin with. Aside from Darius likely protesting publicly against such a trade and action, I don’t think the league would look favorably on this if we retire and release a player and then trade for him. It might not be weirder than what’s going on anyway, but I doubt KP sees that as a viable option.

by Norsktroll on Jan 5, 2009 4:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I didnt think it is realistic

I just wondered about the legality

by southern oregon on Jan 5, 2009 5:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Where is tominhawaii with his usual Darius/suicide rant?

He must be sleeping, getting ready for his graveyard stint (no pun intended).

by Bust a Bucket on Jan 5, 2009 4:50 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

It's still kinda early here in Paradise....

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace." Jimi Hendrix

by philly420pdxhilo on Jan 5, 2009 5:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We are everywhere.....

Stop by Starbucks Drive-Thru in Hilo and ask for Matthew, would love to say "aloha’….

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace." Jimi Hendrix

by philly420pdxhilo on Jan 6, 2009 1:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I was in Hilo last March

And got to do the walk out at nite and see the lava thing with some locals,my mind will never be the same.

by southern oregon on Jan 6, 2009 2:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Dang, I just commented above

I went to bed right after PTI, about 15 minutes after this was posted.

by tominhawaii on Jan 6, 2009 4:29 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

haha

nicely played above Sir…

I was hoping you’d sneak that one in.

by Bust a Bucket on Jan 6, 2009 11:10 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you Norkstroll

Excellent post

Bayless has been testing the fences for weaknesses

by blazeraddict on Jan 5, 2009 7:20 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

ugh

darrious better either play at a moderate to moderatly high leval, in otherwords be at least a 15 min pr game bench guy, or explode on the court. i dont mind him making a comback, IF HE REALLY DUZ.

December 18, 2008.

"Roy is Roy, and if I were to bet my life on a game of 5-on-5, I’d bet on whichever team Roy was playing on." by HurraKane212

by maid tu rek on Jan 5, 2009 11:14 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

and by explode, i mean

body sprawled in an unnatural position on the court, possibly including a bone or two protruding through the skin, but most certainly lots and LOTS and lots of screaming. i have no real preference, but anything between these two extreams will really piss me off

December 18, 2008.

"Roy is Roy, and if I were to bet my life on a game of 5-on-5, I’d bet on whichever team Roy was playing on." by HurraKane212

by maid tu rek on Jan 5, 2009 11:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I hope he explodes

and lands on Chris Wallace…

I hope his knee bleeds on Wallace and Darius’s kids punch Wallace in the mid-groin area and tells him that he ruined his dad (who will never be able to walk straight again).

by Bust a Bucket on Jan 5, 2009 11:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

hmmm

only if happens on camera, i wanna see utube klips. i wanna SEE IT!!!

December 18, 2008.

"Roy is Roy, and if I were to bet my life on a game of 5-on-5, I’d bet on whichever team Roy was playing on." by HurraKane212

by maid tu rek on Jan 6, 2009 6:58 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

2009 we'll still have $10.4 Cap Space & $5.6 Mid Level, even with Darius's 9 million salary...

…..that is if a TRADE doesn’t happen before 7-1-09……

…." involving NY ( D LEE ) for FRYE’S &/or IKE’S 2010 expiring contracts & Sergio "

Channing Frye renounced $4,264,760
Ike Diogu renounced $3,946,874

Darius Miles $9,000,000
Joel Przbyilla $6,857,725
LaMarcus Aldridge $5,844,827
Greg Oden $5,361,240
Martell Webster $5,000,000
Steve Blake $4,000,000
Brandon Roy $3,910,816
Travis Outlaw $3,600,000
Jerryd Bayless $2,143,080
Sergio Rodriguez $1,576,696
Rudy Fernandez $1,165,320
Nicolas Batum $1,118,760
Shavlik Randolph 0
Steve Francis 0
Raef LaFrentz 0

Total 2009/2010 Blazer Salaries $49,578,464

Total 2009/2010 Projected Salary Cap $60,000,000

Total 2009/2010 Cap Space Available $10,421,536

“2nd Player” using 2008/09 Mid Level Exception $5,585,000


 2008/09 maximum player salary, 0-6 years service $13,758,000
 2008/09 maximum player salary, 7-9 years service $16,509,600
 2008/09 maximum player salary, 10+ years service $19,261,200

by roy2rudy on Jan 5, 2009 11:20 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

There is no conundrum

Tomorrow Darius will be unemployed again and you’ll all feel silly for worrying about this.

Blazer Fan

by leeroyjenkins on Jan 6, 2009 6:50 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

a) I highly doubt it
b) You can still sign players after the “guaranteed contract deadline”. The issue won’t go away that quietly.

by Norsktroll on Jan 6, 2009 6:59 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

i dont think your one person

theres a team of basketball analysts/enthusiest, independantly wealthy, working 24 hours a day, scouring the internet for all news Blazer related. you are all just sharring the same username. admit it! how many are you?

December 18, 2008.

"Roy is Roy, and if I were to bet my life on a game of 5-on-5, I’d bet on whichever team Roy was playing on." by HurraKane212

by maid tu rek on Jan 6, 2009 8:58 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You can doubt it all you want

People here have been tearing their hair out over Darius for months. It’s foolish. Darius Miles will never play in the NBA again. Write it down. And when I’m right, I expect you all to come back and say so.

Blazer Fan

by leeroyjenkins on Jan 6, 2009 9:34 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You obviously have never seen Eric Snow on TV...
The Cleveland Cavaliers have Eric Snow medically retired, but it’s very unlikely he makes any comeback from his current job as studio analyst for NBA TV.

Nice post, Norwegian Troll!

"Now with a non-provocative footer!"

by timbo on Jan 6, 2009 9:54 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

The real problem here

is that an independent doctor declared Miles’ knee unfit for professional basketball. Miles has been rehabbing for more than two years now and still isn’t in game shape. What else is Portland supposed to do? If a doctor not on their payroll says he’s done and he can’t work himself into shape in two years with nothing else to do then they should win the appeal.

Why was he declared done by the doctor if he can sort of play now? Is it because microfracture surgery is still pretty new and not well understood? The human body is strange and I guess it’s hard to say how someone will come back from an injury until he actually tries.

I don’t think Memphis is purposefully messing with Portland’s cap. I think they’re just desperate for players and buzz. The U will always get top-billing in that town so they need to generate some headlines.

by torsoheap on Jan 6, 2009 11:11 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Darius is getting playing time tonight?

Darius is in the game start of second quarter! 2nd possesion got a block! YUK!

by TRUEBLAZERS on Jan 6, 2009 5:42 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Nobody said Miles would be the player he was before his injury and that would fuel his comeback. You were right about the waiver. If that was the end of the seemingly never-ending story and we keep our cap space for 2009 (after that it really doesn’t matter), I’m as happy about it as you.

by Norsktroll on Jan 7, 2009 7:21 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

21 recs in 20 minutes.

thats got to be a record. oh rec btw.

"I saw him in the face"

by RoodiePhirnandizz on Jan 9, 2009 3:18 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

oh wait this has been around since the 5th.

nvm. still good read. <3

"I saw him in the face"

by RoodiePhirnandizz on Jan 9, 2009 3:23 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

lol, how did this show bak up?

December 18, 2008.

"Roy is Roy, and if I were to bet my life on a game of 5-on-5, I’d bet on whichever team Roy was playing on." by HurraKane212

by maid tu rek on Jan 9, 2009 3:27 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The game is won or lost before the teams even take the court...

— Some Zoo, The Art of War

Basketball in the United States is actually played in draft war rooms and arbitration hearings. Threatening emails are the actual bounce passes. The games are played merely to pay the bills. The NBA is a business first, and a sport second. Never mix those two things up.

by Bust a Bucket on Jan 9, 2009 11:49 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Question???

forgive me for my ignorance. and I know that this isn’t possible. But couldn’t the blazers have retired him and then when he tried to come back signed him to sit him? we would have payed the Vets Min and saved 16.5mil right?

by SamGoody on Jan 9, 2009 12:32 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

theoretically... but in order to sign a player, both the team and the player must agree to sign the contract

Darius would/will never sign with Portland (unless he actually thought he would have a chance to play).

NBA teams can’t just choose players and force them into contracts. The player must also be willing to sign the contract. Darius never would give Portland that option.

by Bust a Bucket on Jan 9, 2009 12:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I have infiltrated the Jailblazers exclusive forum to bring doom and gloom to your decent season. After Darius plays at least 2 more games, the only 2 teams left with substantial cap space will be the Memphis teddy bears and the Pistons. We have Iverson’s 21 million dollars expiring and the world champion Rasheed Wallace’s bloated contract expiring as well. Translation, the Pistons will actually have more money in free agency than any other team, period! Once PTB is hit with Miles’s full contract, you will only be able to afford a spam sandwich on layway (actually 7.5 million) , but who will Portland be able to get for just over the mid-level exception – NOBODY! Nothing personal PTB, I just want all of the free agents to only have 1 good option to get paid, and with PTB out of the running. It will be easy for free agents to chose the Pistons over the Memphis care bears. There is one way the PTB’s could change this situation around and would put more BUZZ into the NBA, than chosen Bowie over Jordan, chosen injury-prone Oden over Durant or even the great Rodney Stuckey, and more star power than the Celtics getting Garnett. What is it? Trade us Roy for your beloved Rasheed Wallace or Allen Iverson and the rest of the NBA will be happy for it and the Detroit Pistons will forget about that 1 point boner the PTB slipped in. If all else fails, give the ball to Vinnie Johnson and watch him CRUSH the jailblazers with a shot over Jerome Hershey Kiss, with .007 seconds on the clock.

by pistonswin007 on Jan 10, 2009 8:24 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Errr....what?

My HDTV is a JustinTV streamer who doesn't just use a webcam :(

by inroywetrust on Jan 10, 2009 9:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My opinion on this affair...

I’ve been out a couple of days and when I came back……………. What ? All those messages ?!!!! I’m sorry, I don’t have enough time ahead of me to read it all, so I guess my take on this story isn’t a new point of view.
I think the main point is why did Darius accept to sign a document in which he agreed to stop his NBA career and finally wants to play ?
Well, if Miles has simply changed his mind, I guess it would be easy to either sue him or to have to play FOR Portland, not another team, as he is still getting paid by them, this without a simple buy-out.
However, the way I always got it, is that he wanted to continue to play (I may be wrong, but this is what he said at the time and what he still appears to want to do now), but Portland felt like they could have him retired to get him off their cap (and maybe free a roster spot) and managed to get him sign that retirement document…. He still shouldn’t have signed that doc and still could be sued for not respecting his commiment, but it’s going to come down as wether the Blazers ‘forced’ his hand or not, wether they were hardly trying to convince him to retire or not…

Since the begining of this story, my main concern was that the Blazers might have trouble with FAs as they might be perceived as people who could ‘force’ players into retirement if they became ‘damaged goods’. Players are oftenly concerned about security, not only financial security, but also playing guarantee (a lot of them decline signing or staying with good teams for playing time for instance).
Now my worry has gotten worse : wether this is justified or not, the Blazers are trying to prevent Miles from playing basketball in the NBA. Do you think players are not listenning to this ? I’m not saying other teams wouldn’t do the same thing, but all NBA players are not necessarily the brightest guys in the world and this affair is horrible publicity… Guys might worry that if they sign with us, the Blazers could actually decide to stop their NBA career if they have an injury that diminish their ball abilities. They might be affraid that the Blazers could put pressure on them (I’m not claiming this is what they did with Miles) to push them into retirement.

Then, there is the message sent to the other teams… Personnally, I find this one a bit rude and most of all useless. I think it only potentially deteriorates the relationships between Portland and the other NBA teams, therefore maybe reducing their will to deal with us.

So, appart from avoiding to pay the luxury tax (and considering PA’s wealth I guess this was a secondary goal), I guess Miles’ retirement’s main purpose for the Blazers was to increase their opportunities in trades and signing FAs, all of which is countered by these new (predictable) events.

So Portland could potentially lose everything and mostly create a bad image of themselves and that would negate everything they have tried to do with this retirement thing.

Portland’s hopes are that this story could create a new case law that would create new rules (like at least not counting pre-season games which is pretty silly) that would make Miles’ salary be off Portand’s cap or suing Miles, but even if the results end up being in their interests, it would be after their opportunity to get nice FAs or make the best trades I guess, so maybe the Blazers shouldn’t make too much noise that deteriorate their image and bite the bullet on this one (at least for the moment), because what’s the use of having 18 millions under the cap if no one wants to deal or sign with you (our owner isn’t the Suns owner, right ?)

Again sorry for the probable redundancy.

by Blenzer on Jan 10, 2009 8:47 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

i personaly recomend any of the main page posts, or even the after the grizz sighn miles sidebar posts,

but there all sprinkled with some nice perspective

They LIED!!!

http://www.nba.com/news/miles_10_080919.html

by maid tu rek on Jan 10, 2009 4:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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