Clippers Waive Two Players
by Ben. on Jan 5, 2009 2:38 PM PST
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Why'd you have to do Freddie Jones like that?
Rev up your David Lee trade speculation.
-- Ben (benjamin.golliver@gmail.com)
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Fred Jones is available
Maybe he can hit a jumper. – Elgin
It doesn't mean you should just because you can. Like Abraham and Ishmael, fighting over sand - it doesn't mean you should just because you can. That is a fact of life. - Adrian Belew
by 22baylor on Jan 5, 2009 2:42 PM PST reply actions 4 recs
REC
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
by BlazerFan1 on Jan 5, 2009 2:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Fred Jones hit a jumper?
ha ha ha ha ha ha
Boomshakalaka
by jksnake99 on Jan 5, 2009 3:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Did he ever recover from his broken hand?
It seems like he could sorta shoot at one point in time (maybe in college? I never watched him then though… perhaps as a Pacer? Or never?) but MAN… as a Blazer he was Sergio-bad at shooting.
In his defense, he had a hand thingy that made the shot extra flat and ugly, but yeah. Fred Jones + hitting jumpers does not = HOORAY.
Plus, I hate when we have bad local players. Makes everyone focus on that player more than they deserve, and it’s annoying. Just say no to Fred Jones and Dan Dickau!
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Jan 5, 2009 3:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
in college he could drive and finish thats about it
by tevisthe4th on Jan 5, 2009 6:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
your memory is a little off.
Jones generated turnovers by getting steals. He hit a lot of three pointers. And yes, he could finish.
Look it up man. – Elgin
It doesn't mean you should just because you can. Like Abraham and Ishmael, fighting over sand - it doesn't mean you should just because you can. That is a fact of life. - Adrian Belew
by 22baylor on Jan 7, 2009 10:56 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I was refering to his scoring prowress in response to Mort
what did he shoot like 32% from college 3 point line?
by tevisthe4th on Jan 7, 2009 6:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nononononononononononono.
Posting and Toasting: Blogging Robin Hood-Style Since 2007
by Seth on Jan 5, 2009 2:53 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Ok
How about Ike Diogu and Frye for Lee, straight up? D’Antoni spent a lot of time in Arizona and they are from Arizona, so what could fit better? Nothing, that’s what.
We’ll throw in the rights to Nedzad “Ha Seung-Jinn’s Worst Enemy” Sednanovic for FREE. You think you could find a better deal anywhere else? Keep dreamin’ pal.
If we both agree to the deal, get 500 signatures from fans who also agree to it, I think Walsh and Pritchard are legally required to make the deal.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Jan 5, 2009 2:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Better yet we could just offer Diogu and when they balk we get to say "Do you want Frye's with that?"
That would be cool.
by raoulduke on Jan 5, 2009 3:03 PM PST up reply actions 18 recs
+1
I love it.
"I never scored more than 38, even in Little League." ~ Roy, 52 pts
by shralpster on Jan 5, 2009 3:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They'd HAVE to agree to the deal after that!
“I may not like your offer but the setup for the pun was amazing. It’s a DEAL” is what Walsh will say.
M—
by Mortimer on Jan 5, 2009 3:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I've found the secret to enjoying life on the Bedge - just act like I'm 17 again.
I haven’t acted that age since the last time I pestered my wife…
by raoulduke on Jan 5, 2009 3:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Last time you pestered your wife... IN BED
Ohhh snap I implied you sleep with your wife!
WHAT’S UP NOW, CHUMP?
It’s hard to resist the urge to not act like a grownz ass man sometimes, so just give in to deliciousness.
Morty
by Mortimer on Jan 5, 2009 3:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
"When Bellotti attempted to shake the hand of Oklahoma State quarterback Zac Robinson after the game, Robinson offered his left hand. His right was swollen and battered from the Ducks' defense."
by MarineCorpsDuck on Jan 5, 2009 4:52 PM PST up reply actions 5 recs
Morty for President 2012...
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
by timbo on Jan 6, 2009 9:35 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
No, from the drive-through speaker, Walsh would say
“and then…?”
by two4larue on Jan 5, 2009 4:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
go green...
go green.
"When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car"
by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Jan 5, 2009 3:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They may hold out for a three team deal to get mayo
.
by JTDuck22 on Jan 5, 2009 4:27 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
No kidding
Who does this JTDuck22 guy even think he is?
M—
by Mortimer on Jan 5, 2009 4:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Leave it to the Duck
Why does fat chance = slim chance?
by prezofdeath on Jan 5, 2009 6:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm ... I missed some posts while I was at work today
Guess I have a lot to catch up on.
by CatMan2 on Jan 5, 2009 10:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Mmm Fryes
that was hi-ho-larious.
Why does fat chance = slim chance?
by prezofdeath on Jan 5, 2009 6:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I had to laugh a little when Newsday called Sergio a "coveted guard" and Frye a good shooter
KP is working his magic in NY, only Knicks emperor GM Walsh is probably immune to it.
by Norsktroll on Jan 5, 2009 3:12 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Not out of the question
The Knicks play a system that Sergio would likely thrive in. I could see them coveting him.
by grigs on Jan 5, 2009 5:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
In theory you could be right
But I think D’antoni’s PG-reliant system also relies on the PG to be an offensive threat with his jumper. Sergio can penetrate but isn’t good at finishing, and we all know he is a pretty bad shooter.
Duhon can hit the jumper, and finish at least decently, and with D’Antoni’s system that relies on his PG it makes him look good. Sergio is clearly a better playmaker than Duhon and a good playmaker overall leaguewide, but the rest of his offensive game wouldn’t fit very well with D’Antoni, I think.
The PG has to be a threat to score for it to work.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Jan 5, 2009 6:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sergio is a good match for D'Antoniball, but Duhon seems to have that job locked down...
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
by timbo on Jan 6, 2009 9:36 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
But really...
The knicks are just clearing up cap space to make a run at Steve Francis.
by RuQ on Jan 6, 2009 11:32 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Paul Davis
He seemed to get worse at MSU as time went on, and his NBA career has obviously not been much to date.
Bayless has been testing the fences for weaknesses
by blazeraddict on Jan 5, 2009 3:15 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
He seemed to get worse at MSU as time went on
agreed … his fourteen year career there kept dragging and dragging
by Ben. on Jan 5, 2009 3:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Bayless has been testing the fences for weaknesses
by blazeraddict on Jan 5, 2009 3:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I know him mainly
As the guy who for whatever reason agreed to co-star in the Dwayne Wade commercial where a good-Wade and a bad-Wade argue over whether to dunk on the defender or not. I hope Davis got paid well to look like a punk in an oft-repeated national ad!
I don’t think the game was televised, but Batum blocking a normal baseline jumper by Paul Davis in the pre-season Clippers game was pretty sweet. It didn’t look like Batum was even close, but his Go-Go-Gadget arms went BONK and Davis cried.
We’re talking about the white big man for the Clippers, right? Did HE get waived? I didn’t follow the link.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Jan 5, 2009 3:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes. Not Ricky Davis. Not Baron Davis. Not Big Baby Davis.
by Norsktroll on Jan 5, 2009 3:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
I always thought that was Shaun Livingston.
by DrCoffee on Jan 5, 2009 3:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He dribbles past Livingston
And ultimately dunks on the white dude, PF Paul “Paul Davis” Davis.
My goodness I can’t believe you don’t remember every last detail from an ad from a year or two ago. Try DVRing less and more commercial watching, ok? Jeez.
(winks)
Morty Pie McGilliguddy
by Mortimer on Jan 5, 2009 3:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Paul "Paul Davis" Davis
Oh Morty….
"When I have the ball, I experiment." #5
by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 5, 2009 6:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Morty Pie. I like it.
"Aneurysm".
When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie
by annthefan on Jan 5, 2009 7:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
that's the song
right before Bungalow Bill on the white album. – Elgin
It doesn't mean you should just because you can. Like Abraham and Ishmael, fighting over sand - it doesn't mean you should just because you can. That is a fact of life. - Adrian Belew
by 22baylor on Jan 7, 2009 10:58 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
here’s davis’s comments on the commercial.
by Ben. on Jan 5, 2009 4:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't he a first rounder? I think I remember him the cover of ESPN once.
At the very least they did a feature article on him.
by OneTrickPony on Jan 5, 2009 4:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
For a while
people were touting him pretty highly as an inside/outside threat at PF. I don’t remeber where he was drafted, but some “experts” had him in the top 5 after his sophmore or junior year. Yeesh…
Bayless has been testing the fences for weaknesses
by blazeraddict on Jan 5, 2009 5:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What team
Has done more trades and signings than the Clippers have this past off-season and this regular season, and got less to show for it?
Baron, Camby, Z-Bo, Ricky Davis, etcetera and so forth.
Most activity to earn the most nothingness, ever.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Jan 5, 2009 3:56 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Do you think having two GMs has something to do with it?
by Corvid on Jan 5, 2009 4:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The ghost of Elgin Baylor?
I guess I didn’t phrase it very well. The GM situation has been a mess for a while and I sorta wonder if Dunleavy’s trying to . . . Oh heck, I don’t know what Dunleavy’s trying to do. Combining the coach and GM roles just doesn’t sound like a smart idea, period.
by Corvid on Jan 5, 2009 4:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think Dunleavy knows what Dunleavy is trying to do,
Which is why he is PERFECT for the Clips.
"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace." Jimi Hendrix
by philly420pdxhilo on Jan 5, 2009 4:29 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Well played, sir!
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
by timbo on Jan 6, 2009 9:37 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
Except in extremely rare cases, having different RESPECTFUL points of view about players and personnel and decision making is never a bad thing.
Ya want 1 smart person in charge and not a bunch of people making random decisions, but you don’t want everything decided by one guy— especially with how demanding a job NBA coaching is. Hell, just the scouting and day-to-day stuff of a GM should preclude him from being able to coach, and vice versa.
Only in special situations and with a genius basketball mind, could it work.
I never thought Dunleavy was bad at his job, but it’s a lotta job he has to handle right now.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Jan 5, 2009 4:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not dead yet!
It doesn't mean you should just because you can. Like Abraham and Ishmael, fighting over sand - it doesn't mean you should just because you can. That is a fact of life. - Adrian Belew
by 22baylor on Jan 5, 2009 4:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Which bring us...
…here.
Poor grammar is poor communication.
Poor communication causes misunderstanding.
Misunderstanding causes fighting.
Fighting causes war.
War causes death.
Therefore, your poor grammar may just kill us all.
(One of Two Official Blazer's Edge Poets Laureate for the 2008-2009 Season)
by T Darkstar on Jan 5, 2009 5:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
thank you!
"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."
by Seijeff on Jan 6, 2009 11:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Just the Clippers being the Clippers....
"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace." Jimi Hendrix
by philly420pdxhilo on Jan 5, 2009 4:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Worst franchise in the NBA
complete and total mess internally AND a tightwad owner
Bayless has been testing the fences for weaknesses
by blazeraddict on Jan 5, 2009 4:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
worst...
in pro sports?
Could be.
"When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car"
by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Jan 5, 2009 4:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
+1+1+1+1+1+
"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace." Jimi Hendrix
by philly420pdxhilo on Jan 5, 2009 4:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Raiders have had a bad stretch, but they won their division three straight years a few back,
and even showed up in a superbowl.
I heart taxes.
by everett on Jan 5, 2009 8:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Until Al Davis' corpse is lowered six feet into the ground, it's the Oakland Raiders.
by AK1984 on Jan 6, 2009 3:42 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I vote yes.
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
by timbo on Jan 6, 2009 9:38 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Seattle Mariners
I’m a fan, but….yeesh.
by LicketyBrindle on Jan 6, 2009 10:14 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thats got to be kind of weird to play for the clippers.
If coach Mike doesn’t like you, gm Mike can just cut you.
.
by JTDuck22 on Jan 5, 2009 4:26 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
They also just aquired
Cheikh Samb for cash and a 2nd rounder, so that eats up one of those spots.
by Lance Uppercut on Jan 5, 2009 4:35 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
That is one of the strangest collection of big men in the NBA
Right after the Wolves.
by Norsktroll on Jan 5, 2009 4:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Deandre Jordan and Samb
Can have fun contests trying to out-raw each other in raw big man prowess!
Mortimer Q. Weathersford the 3rd
by Mortimer on Jan 5, 2009 4:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Free throw contests could be fun between those guys
Jordan makes Shaq look like Nash from the line. Samb has FG percentages that would put a tiny guard to shame. They are probably just on the team to make Kaman and Camby laugh and feel confident about their abilities.
by Norsktroll on Jan 5, 2009 4:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Without the age limit
Jordan would have been a top 10 pick, he was incredibly hyped going in to A&M
Bayless has been testing the fences for weaknesses
by blazeraddict on Jan 5, 2009 5:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He could still be the next Dwight Howard or at least Andrew Bynum, but the signs are saying bust
I have rarely seen a hyped player with more question marks and perceived weaknesses on his DraftExpress profile. At one point the Blazers were supposed to take him in mock drafts. That really would have scared me.
by Norsktroll on Jan 5, 2009 5:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's like an e-slap in the e-face
It’s like Shaq calling Oden, Odom.
FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Jan 5, 2009 4:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No, no I did not
But in my defense, you probably should have put that fact in somewhere. So it’s actually your fault.
by Lance Uppercut on Jan 5, 2009 4:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
E-SNAP
Oooh, Lance done tol’ Ben what’s up!
Ben, you gonna take that? Send him home in a body bag! Sweep the knee!
FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!
M—
by Mortimer on Jan 5, 2009 4:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sweep the knee?
Since when does Casey deserve the NancyKerrigan/Darius treatment?
by Bust a Bucket on Jan 5, 2009 4:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
In this case
I was being one of the bullies in The Karate Kid, and I’m not sure which of Ben and Lance are the blonde bully and which is Ralph Machio.
Lance allegedly has ethereal blonde locks, so he’s the bully, and Ben is the beloved Karate Kid, I guess.
I’ll let history decide…
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Jan 5, 2009 5:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think he's referring to Karate Kid
"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."
by Seijeff on Jan 6, 2009 11:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It wouldn't take much
to sweep my knee out. A seemingly harmless slip on some sidewalk ice undid about $15,000 worth of surgery, so anything stiffer than a light breeze would send me to the deck.
by Lance Uppercut on Jan 5, 2009 5:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
D'oh that's right!
I forgot about the knee surgery!
So I guess you ARE the Karate Kid in this analogy, and Ben is the bully trying to pick on your hurt knee!
Norsktroll’s old avatar can be a young Elisabeth Shue and come running into your arms once you fend off the evil Ben and win the match!
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Jan 5, 2009 5:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
wait a minute wait a minute
ive had 2 knee surgeries.
does that make me the karate kid again
by Ben. on Jan 5, 2009 5:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I fear that only makes you injury prone
Is Casey living anywhere near Sophia or Roy? Those sidewalks and driveways sound dangerous.
by Norsktroll on Jan 5, 2009 5:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thank god I live in LA!
The only place I walk to is my car!
No dangerous sidewalks, filled with germ riddled hippies and hobos, for me! I prefer stepping over germ riddled meth addicts and hobos to get to my car.
Morty
by Mortimer on Jan 5, 2009 5:32 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
In my heart
You’re BOTH the Karate Kid.
But one of you is the Hilary Swank version of the Karate Kid.
Over time it will become clear which is which.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Jan 5, 2009 5:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe you guys should just go with a good ol' fashioned arm wrestling match then
weak kneed babys
"When I have the ball, I experiment." #5
by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 5, 2009 6:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Blazer bloggers are as injury prone as the players!
We ARE the Frail Blazers!
Sheesh!
I’m gonna go root for a team that can stay healthy, like the Wizards!
Mortimer!
by Mortimer on Jan 5, 2009 6:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
alright alright… well… watch it buddy or ill make a post entitled “still no bayless blog fuels trade speculation” and then revenge will be complete
by Ben. on Jan 5, 2009 4:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah, where is the Bayless Facetime?
Players with a blog on the team homepage don’t get traded. Right? Right?
by Norsktroll on Jan 5, 2009 5:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
probably getting redesigned with knicks colors in the background.
by Ben. on Jan 5, 2009 5:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Make a headline that just says BAYLESS TRADED
And make it so you have to click the “read the rest” link to see an ellipses and a question mark.
Yeah, some will say it’s unethical, but TECHNICALLY you’re just saying “BAYLESS TRADED…?” and you’re in the clear.
Mort.
by Mortimer on Jan 5, 2009 5:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
remember “adios sergio”? i barely escaped with my life… no way am i touching your idea lol
by Ben. on Jan 5, 2009 5:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
haha i remember that
We’re still finding pieces of Ben littered around Blazerdom from time to time, with Sergio-fan teeth marks on them.
"...we have so many experts who think that you have to play defense, you have to rebound, you have to be a possession coach, you have to execute. I just laugh. Explosive offense is not as intimidating as dominant defense. But it is scary when you don't know how to stop someone." - George Karl, Nuggets coach
by jamon51 on Jan 5, 2009 5:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That was the worst idea all 2008
Started the entire trade Sergio not trade Sergio rants
by oregonslee on Jan 5, 2009 5:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, to be fair
that argument was just bubbling under the surface. I think Ben exposed a festering wound to the open air and it blew up in his face.
"...we have so many experts who think that you have to play defense, you have to rebound, you have to be a possession coach, you have to execute. I just laugh. Explosive offense is not as intimidating as dominant defense. But it is scary when you don't know how to stop someone." - George Karl, Nuggets coach
by jamon51 on Jan 5, 2009 5:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That is a mixed metaphore at best
and plenty gross too
Homer: "Yikes....a bear is eating my father!!"
Selma: "I'm Selma"
Homer: "A talking bear is eating my father!!"
by 92wastheyear on Jan 5, 2009 9:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
I thought it was rather good myself
"...we have so many experts who think that you have to play defense, you have to rebound, you have to be a possession coach, you have to execute. I just laugh. Explosive offense is not as intimidating as dominant defense. But it is scary when you don't know how to stop someone." - George Karl, Nuggets coach
by jamon51 on Jan 6, 2009 12:30 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The Denver Nuggets probably dumped Cheikh Samb to shave money off its pending luxury tax tab.
Thus, if push comes to shove, the Los Angeles Clippers will likely waive Samb without any reservations.
by AK1984 on Jan 5, 2009 8:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not a trade deadline
without Fred Jones being moved somewhere
by phillyduck23 on Jan 5, 2009 4:47 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
How will I know the trade deadline is coming
unless I hear something about Dan Dickau? He’s like the ground hog of the NBA, oh looks like a long trading season Dickau was moved in November this year…
Jaws were hitting the floor as Greg repeatedly attempted to tear the rim off the backboard...
by TheOdenator on Jan 5, 2009 5:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
lol
harsh, man, harsh
"...we have so many experts who think that you have to play defense, you have to rebound, you have to be a possession coach, you have to execute. I just laugh. Explosive offense is not as intimidating as dominant defense. But it is scary when you don't know how to stop someone." - George Karl, Nuggets coach
by jamon51 on Jan 5, 2009 5:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Too bad Isiah is gone...
We could have offered him Buck Williams and a $20million bag of basketballs for Lee. He’d have been all over that.
"I'd rather be thin than famous."
by Artie Fufkin on Jan 5, 2009 5:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I miss Isiah
McHale and Dunleavy are dumb but not in his league
by southern oregon on Jan 5, 2009 5:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
McFail and Dumbleavy
The worst part about Isiah is that it requires at least a little bit of thought to make a pun out of his name that remarks upon his failures as a front office exec.
Hmm… Lie-saiah? Because he lied about sexually harassing that lady person? No, requires too much explanation and a good pun of this sort is clear upon first reading.
I-Fail-uh Dumb-os?
See it’s hard!
Bore-timer
by Mortimer on Jan 5, 2009 5:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You get an 'E' for Effort
"I'd rather be thin than famous."
by Artie Fufkin on Jan 5, 2009 6:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Isiah Stupid
Ooh, actually his real name’s Isiah Lord Thomas III – that’s pretty cool. Thanks Wikipedia!
"Well, Travis just showed us that we can go to Travis Outlaw." - Nate McMillan
by 12sharks on Jan 5, 2009 7:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I got one
Old Farty-fart-fart McFarty crappy trade guy.
by tominhawaii on Jan 6, 2009 5:46 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Or a lude stamping machine
he could say it’s his daughters’
by oregonslee on Jan 5, 2009 5:26 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
old junk sale at Rorer?
Do you know what you are?...You are What U is..You is what U Am..A cow don't make Ham...you ain't what u Not...so see what you got..You are what U is..And that's all it 'tis.... F.Zappa
by LetsBlaze on Jan 5, 2009 5:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Paul Davis > Channing Frye
"When I have the ball, I experiment." #5
by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 5, 2009 6:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
dunleavy is just trying to save his job
Woof
by Charles Barkley McLovin on Jan 5, 2009 6:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
He shouldn't worry that much though
Like others here have mentioned (and various articles), he’s owed 10 million over the next two years AFTER this season, and his owner is known for being cheap— and that’d be more money than he’s willing to eat, I’m sure, especially with the real estate market not going so well right now (which is where that owner has his money from).
Plus, if ya fire Dunleavy, you not only are still on the hook for his 10+ million, you gotta find a new GM and a new coach. AND ya gotta do that while having a really expensive roster. I think all the owner will be willing to do now is ride it out with Dunleavy and see what happens.
I think Dunleavy as GM is flailing for anything to help the team, but I don’t think it’s out of job insecurity. If so, I really pity him. Who looks to Ricky Davis and hopes getting him will save your job?!
If I owned the Clippers and owed Dunleavy that much, I’d keep him as coach (where I don’t think he’s a bad one) and get a new-wave GM, Presti-KP style. Some new, creative blood and someone who can focus only on that job.
Morty
by Mortimer on Jan 5, 2009 6:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe the Clips
Could work a deal for Starberry
by southern oregon on Jan 5, 2009 6:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Very knowledgeable Morty
I see you read the LA papers.
"When I have the ball, I experiment." #5
by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 5, 2009 7:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't understand
Why he didn’t learn from his lessons with the Blazers.
by tominhawaii on Jan 6, 2009 5:47 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Amazing that a post about the Clips
waiving a couple of scrubs could generate 100+ comments
by southern oregon on Jan 5, 2009 7:38 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
David Lee vs. LMA
I’m a big LMA fan, but it’s hard to overlook some of the advantages David Lee brings to the game. His numbers strike me as similar to another power forward who was brought over to the Blazers years ago…Buck Williams. High offensive efficiency, voracious rebounder, high energy guy.
"...we have so many experts who think that you have to play defense, you have to rebound, you have to be a possession coach, you have to execute. I just laugh. Explosive offense is not as intimidating as dominant defense. But it is scary when you don't know how to stop someone." - George Karl, Nuggets coach
by jamon51 on Jan 5, 2009 7:59 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Buck was a pretty good defender
But I hear what your saying
by southern oregon on Jan 5, 2009 8:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
But man
No way Lee has the same tough, defensive, imposing presence Buck provides. Not even in the same time zone/planet/universe whatsoever, dude!
Buck and Lee are both great rebounders who only take high percentage shots, but Buck’s interior defense was one of the best in the league and was what the team needed. Our team now needs perimeter defense, and Lee’s interior defense is downright bad.
He’s just a guy who is too small and unathletic on defense, and sometimes seems like he isn’t there, Z-Bo style.
He isn’t unathletic really, but he plays that way defensively. He should at least get more blocks, since we know he has leaping ability, and he’s Z-Bo level bad at blocking shots.
Our defense is bad now, and the fact that David Lee would make it worse should be enough to make him decidedly non-Buck like. I’d love even more hustle, but Lee’s hustle ain’t defensive hustle, it’s rebounding hustle. Lee is what Z-Bo woulda’ been in a perfect world, a world that didn’t pay him max money and make him the focal point of a team— a garbage bucket rebounder whose weaknesses aren’t exposed because he isn’t relied on as either a starter or a defensive presence.
Someone will overpay David Lee, and they will love his rebounding and efficient scoring, but no one can win anything, ever, with bad interior defense. Ever.
(I keep using the Z-Bo comparisons because I really do find David Lee to be a very similar player to pre-max contract Z-Bo, strengths and weaknesses in all).
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Jan 5, 2009 8:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Lee is about as hard to dribble around as a fire hydrant
Other than that a decent player
by southern oregon on Jan 5, 2009 8:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He hustles and he's a mega-max Leebounder....
…………………….. I can’t start to tell you how awesome it would be to have Lee at the backup 4. Sorta like the Oden & Pryz situation at Center… NICE.
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
by timbo on Jan 6, 2009 9:42 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Lee is so much more athletic than Zbo, it isn't even funny
Lee won the McDonalds HS Dunk Contest and has had some amazing highlight reel dunks in the pros as well.
also, Lee doesn’t fancy himself an outside shooter. This is an absolutely terrible comparison, Mortimer. I do see some similarities (both players are best as garbage men), but other than that there is no similarity at all. Also, Lee has a work ethic and is not known to frequent strip clubs.
Boomshakalaka
by jksnake99 on Jan 5, 2009 8:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What they do is the same
I think you’re stuck on how they do it, but they do the same thing.
And remember: pre-max contract Z-Bo didn’t shoot jumpers, he garbage bucketed. There are many similiarities to their game, and the same weaknesses will be exposed if you put Lee in a bigger role than he should have.
I’m not saying Lee is the same level of athleticism as Z-Bo; if anything that makes Lee’s lack of blocks and defense even worse. At least Z-Bo gets the most of his abysmal athleticism. We KNOW Lee can jump over a handful of squashed grapes, unlike Z-Bo, and he still has the same impact Z-Bo has defensively.
Yay I win again!
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Jan 5, 2009 10:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno
I’ve been watching archived Knick games since his name started popping up in rumors, and I still don’t see where LMA’s D is any better than Lee’s. LMA gets more blocks and deflections, but Lee makes up for it with his D-rebounding (preventing 2nd shots). Neither is anywhere close to being a lockdown defender.
I still think its absurd to compare Lee to Z-Bo. I see no evidence that Lee will start thinking of himself as an outside shooter or a 20 attempt per game guy. He’s a garbage man who knows he’s a garbage man.
Boomshakalaka
by jksnake99 on Jan 5, 2009 10:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I should add
I really don’t think Lee is a bad player and I’d much rather have him over Z-Bo.
I hope he remains a garbage man, but he wants to be paid not-garbage-man-like. He wants 8 to 10 million, and the role that sort of money requires.
I think a team will pay him (he is good after all and deserves to be paid well) but instead of keeping him as a star role player they put him in a star star player role and his deficiencies become more deficient.
If he was fine with being a 6th man and wanted to be a Blazer, I don’t mind paying him what he wants to be paid and he’d be great in that role for anyone. It ain’t my money!
Again, I don’t think he’ll start jacking up jumpers with impunity, but I know I didn’t imagine the Z-Bo of that Dallas series would become the Z-Bo of the Z-Bo led Blazers. I heard from a source close to the Knicks that doesn’t really exist that David Lee has been practicing his 3 point shot for 5 hours before and after every game and is excited to start bringing that shot to his next team!
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Jan 5, 2009 10:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
fair enough
I think we know where each other stand now.
Just for fun: Which starting lineup would you prefer, neglecting salary issues for the moment:
a) Blake/Roy/Webster/Aldridge/Oden
b) Blake/Roy/Caron Butler/Lee/Oden
c) Calderon/Roy/Webster/Lee/Oden
I’d go with option (b), myself.
Boomshakalaka
by jksnake99 on Jan 5, 2009 10:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
a
"When I have the ball, I experiment." #5
by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 5, 2009 11:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
B
And what’s really funny is that’s my exact NBA 2k9 Blazers lineup. And I love it.
"...we have so many experts who think that you have to play defense, you have to rebound, you have to be a possession coach, you have to execute. I just laugh. Explosive offense is not as intimidating as dominant defense. But it is scary when you don't know how to stop someone." - George Karl, Nuggets coach
by jamon51 on Jan 6, 2009 12:33 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Could lee and Oden play together?
Nevermind LMA’s rebounding, he’s going to be playing with oden after all… So it would seem to me that LMA’s outside jumper would be much more important than a couple rebounds.
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Joel Freeland=Stud
by hightide on Jan 6, 2009 12:47 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think a garbage man like Lee is a great fit with Oden
So much attention would be drawn to Oden on the glass that Lee could swoop in for tons of tipins and O-rebs. I just don’t think you need an outside shooter at the 4 even if you have a post-oriented 5. Think Duncan/Robinson or the Lopez twins at Stanford.
Plus, as I’ve said ad nauseum, LMA’s jumper looks nice, but he doesn’t make it with any regularity (a subpar .418 efg% on jumpers).
Boomshakalaka
by jksnake99 on Jan 6, 2009 1:06 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So just get him and PAY THE MAN. What is the problem here?
I hope he remains a garbage man, but he wants to be paid not-garbage-man-like. He wants 8 to 10 million, and the role that sort of money requires.
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
by timbo on Jan 6, 2009 9:43 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
For all my pish poshing of Lee, he’d be an awesome 6th man and I would gladly have him for the price he is alleged to want.
I don’t wanna trade Bayless for him, but I’d love to have a guy like David Lee, provided he didn’t have starting in his plans.
We’d then have the best backup big men in the league, and be safely covered from any inevitable big man injuries that ALWAYS happen to those of us who are over 6’10".
HOWEVER, I’d rather address our perimeter defensive concerns first, and Lee’s effort defensively isn’t good for a guy guarding the bucket (but his energy is better than Frye and Diogu, of course), but if he was the level of player we ended up adding this off-season I don’t see how I could be unhappy with it. He’d be very good in that role.
We can wait till the offseason though, unless it’s a steal of a deal of the Frye/Sergio/Diogu variety. How do ya not do that?
Morty
by Mortimer on Jan 6, 2009 11:23 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And Z-Bo
Has a great work ethic, if you recall.
He’s just a scoring/rebounding role player given too much role and too much responsibility.
Lee goes to strip clubs too, and sleeps with strippers. Man, this comparison keeps getting better and betterer!
And: I never said Lee wasn’t athletic, I said he wasn’t athletic enough to defend OR didn’t use his athleticism. Both are bad. And as far as he relates to Buck, Buck had a thick layer of grit and grime to his game that Lee doesn’t. Just because he rebounds doesn’t mean he’s tough, and on defense he isn’t tough.
Morty Pie
by Mortimer on Jan 5, 2009 10:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I just re-read my post
I daresay you didn’t even read it, ya big jerk!
I’m gonna wait two seasons when Lee is starting for some team that overpays him and he’s jacking up 20 footers and smile smarmily.
(I don’t really think that’ll happen but it’ll be funny if it does)
M to the Ortimer
by Mortimer on Jan 5, 2009 10:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
3 in a row?
is that a record?
"When I have the ball, I experiment." #5
by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 5, 2009 10:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not while Timbo is alive
His records for posts-in-a-row will never be broken.
Ever.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Jan 5, 2009 10:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
untill he dies.....
"When I have the ball, I experiment." #5
by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 5, 2009 10:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I will still live on in cyberhistory...
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
by timbo on Jan 6, 2009 9:45 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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