Treatise on the Merits of Acquiring David Lee AND Caron Butler

though I don’t have a real opinion yet. My biggest concern is that this is Lee’s walk year, or am I incorrect in that impression?

I am definitely in the Butler-over-Lee camp. Can’t say I ever considered acquiring both, however. I’ll rec for being though provoking if nothing else.

Blake, Roy, Butler, Lee and Oden would be a substantial upgrade over our current lineup in my opinion. I don’t know if this could be brought to fruition or what it would cost to do so.

My goodness I could cry , but if the move involves moving Travis, im all in. That starting lineup is disgusting and I mean that in a good way.

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LMA is a slightly better shooter,Lee is a much better rebounder and there is no way he would be going to be happy as LMA’s backup.Butler and Wallace are both good defenders,quality guys in every way but with Martell and Nic having the potential to be a solid combo at the 3 they would cost too much,How about if we trade Travis and goodies to da Grizz fo Marc Gascol,I would do any thing to get rid of Travis and he would be better off as well

is really becoming Jarret Jack circa 07/08. IE designated whipping boy. I blame Blake more for our last two losses but that might just be because I don’t expect much from Outlaw and expect alot from Blake.

I think the real issue is how Aldridge plays with Oden and how Lee would play with Oden. Aldridge seems like a match made in heaven next to Oden, but maybe KP and company aren’t as convinced that Aldridge is a good fit. If you think about it, the better Oden gets, the more he is going to demand the ball in the post. If KP thinks Oden can develop into that go to post player on offense, Lee might be a better fit. He scraps, hustles, doesn’t need the ball to be effective and turns garbage into points with his relentless effort. His rebounding would be much appreciated as well, I know we are already a good rebounding team, but I see no reason to think an improvement in that area would be insignificant. Going from a good rebounding team to a great rebounding team is always a good thing. It would also give a more traditional structure to the team with a post up center, and a scrappy powerforward that lives on the glass. Defensively, you can count on Lee to gather up those altered Oden shots a lot more than Aldridge, even if Lee is not as good of a defender overall. How many times have we seen Oden/Joel alter or block a shot only for it to land right in the opponents lap for an easy score. Lee would certainly help end those possesions where we play good D but don’t secure the board.

As much as I love the thought of Butler and Lee, I can’t even speculate as to what would be better. I think making this trade idea could be a very good thing, but I also think keeping Oden and LMA together could be a very good thing. Thank goodness we have KP making these decisions….

He struggled for several games before getting his sea legs. I think Bayless is similar to Stuckey in that they are both combo guards that can score in the paint and create shots for others, but neither are really known for being very great at shooting or having amazing court vision. Maybe Bayless, with this “opportunity” for PT, will start to put up some Stuckey-esque numbers, and soon. BTW TiH’s idea about starting bayless seems pretty logical, but it would be nice to see him put up some decent numbers off the bench first.

Rodney Stuckey: Struggling
Update: Aaron Afflalo came off the bench before Stuckey Monday as Stuckey’s struggles continued.
Analysis: Stuckey played 13 minutes to Afflalo’s seven, but the offense has been stagnant with Stuckey on the floor during the past month. The Pistons will be patient with him, but if the second unit continues to struggle, he’ll probably find himself on the bench more and more often.

Stuckey was coming off an injury, but seemed to be getting more PT than Bayless. I understand this “logjam” at PG, and I understand Bayless will play shooting guard. Perhaps Bayless just needs to start playing a little more, i know it’s got to be tough for Nate to have so many rooks out on the floor, but you are starting 3 rooks whist brandon is out anyway, might as well let bayless get used to playing more than 2 minutes during garbage at a time.

I know this seems off topic but lots of people are talking about trading bayless willy nilly and it seems a little hasty and not something KP would do.

From NBA dot com
“Rodney Stuckey: Struggling”

New York Knicks

Incoming Players
Marcus Camby
Salary: $10,000,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 12.0 REB: 13.5 AST: 2.3 PER: 21.79
Travis Outlaw
Salary: $4,000,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 10.7 REB: 3.7 AST: 1.2 PER: 13.01
Sergio Rodriguez
Salary: $874,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 4.1 REB: 1.3 AST: 3.5 PER: 13.06
Obtained with a trade exception
Outgoing Players: Quentin Richardson, Anthony Roberson, David Lee

Portland Trail Blazers
Incoming Players
Etan Thomas
Salary: $6,864,200 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 3.5 REB: 2.5 AST: 0.2 PER: 10.78
David Lee
Salary: $1,788,033 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 14.8 REB: 11.0 AST: 1.9 PER: 18.27
Caron Butler
Salary: $9,249,980 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 20.5 REB: 6.4 AST: 4.4 PER: 19.65
Outgoing Players: Raef LaFrentz, LaMarcus Aldridge, Channing Frye, Travis Outlaw, Sergio Rodriguez

Washington Wizards
Incoming Players
Jason Hart
Salary: $2,484,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 2.8 REB: 1.8 AST: 1.6 PER: 5.37
Raef LaFrentz
Salary: $12,722,500 Years Remaining: 1
LaMarcus Aldridge
Salary: $4,631,400 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 17.1 REB: 6.9 AST: 1.7 PER: 18.84
Outgoing Players: Etan Thomas, Caron Butler

Los Angeles Clippers
Incoming Players
Quentin Richardson
Salary: $8,685,500 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 11.7 REB: 5.3 AST: 1.7 PER: 11.13
Anthony Roberson
Salary: $797,581 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 5.2 REB: 0.8 AST: 0.9 PER: 12.85
Channing Frye
Salary: $3,163,769 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 4.3 REB: 2.2 AST: 0.6 PER: 9.57
Outgoing Players: Jason Hart, Marcus Camby

is moronic. Butler doesn’t fit here. His game is contradictory to what we need. His age is contradictory to what we ought to want.