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The Sched Ahead -- January 5 weekly update

SUMMARY INFO (rehashed)

Four categories of games:

  1. Home games against sub .500 teams.
  2. Home games against winning teams (I'm including teams right at .500 in this category).
  3. Road games at losing teams.
  4. Road games at winning teams. 

A general formula for success in the NBA is to win almost all of Cat 1, a majority of Cat 2 and Cat 3, and win some in Cat 4.  The contenders may win more than half of their Cat 4 games.

Discussed further by ulc and here

Two Weeks Ago

Last Week

COMMENTS ON THE WEEK

NJ turned into a losing team this week, which helped some teams and hurt others.  This has been discussed previously, so I won't waste time on it.

Since last week, Portland lost one Cat 4 in L.A. and went 1-1 in Cat 2 (Boston and New Orleans, losing some ground.  No really bad losses, though.  We were helped by a NJ bonus.

Dallas went 2-0 in easy Cat 1 games, and lost a Cat 3 at Memphis.  The loss at Memphis wipes out their NJ bonus.

Denver continues to play well, losing a Cat 4 (Atlanta) but winning two Cat 3s and a Cat 2 (N.O.).  N.O. was on a back-to-back and without their head case center.  Denver moves up.

Houston takes a big hit, splitting Cat 1s against Washington(!!!) and Milwaukie, and losing a Cat 4 at Atlanta and a Cat 3 at Toronto (who seems to be starting to play up to talent level).  Bad week for them.

L.A. went 2-0, both Cat 2s against Utah and us.

N.O. definitely improved their position, winning a Cat 1 and splitting two Cat 4s against us and Denver.

Phoenix took care of business this week, winning two Cat 3s against bottom feeders and one Cat 1.  They took a big NJ hit because of their earlier home loss to the Nets, more than wiping out the benefit of expected wins against weak teams.

The Spurs dropped slightly in the projections, due to only splitting home games against losing teams (they lost to Milwaukie).  They also won at Memphis, and Dallas managed yesterday to make a road win at Memphis sound impressive.  They got a NJ bonus which kept them from really falling.

Utah did about as expected, winning a Cat 1 and losing a Cat 4 (at L.A.).  They took a big NJ hit.  They play 3 home games this week, and all are winnable, but two are tough (Detroit, N.O. who will be on a back to back).  This is definitely a week for them to begin to make a move, but if they don't win all three, they drop further.

Helped themselves:  Denver, L.A., N.O.

Treading water: Phoenix, Utah.

Hurt themselves:  Portland, Dallas, Houston, S.A.

The tables:

Cat 4

W

L

Played

Left

Portland

3

9

12

9

Dallas

3

3

6

16

Denver

3

7

10

11

Houston

4

7

11

10

L.A.

5

2

7

13

N.O.

3

5

8

13

Phoenix

1

5

6

14

S.A.

3

4

7

13

Utah

1

6

7

14

Only Houston and Denver are close to us in games played in this category.  The others have a lot more of these hardest games ahead.

Cat 3

W

L

Played

Left

Portland

5

1

6

14

Dallas

7

4

11

8

Denver

8

1

9

11

Houston

6

3

9

11

L.A.

4

2

6

15

N.O.

6

1

7

13

Phoenix

8

1

9

12

S.A.

6

1

7

14

Utah

6

5

11

9

 

Dallas and Houston took losses on the road against losing teams this week.  In general, teams are still taking care of business in these games.  This will be a big key for our playoff chances and seedings -- we have a lot of road games left against losing teams, which should generally be winnable.  How well we do in those games will tell a big part of the story.  We were able to win at N.Y.  Not every team which claims to be good can say that.

Cat 2

  W L Played Left
Portland 7 3 10 11
Dallas 2 6 8 12
Denver 4 4 8 13
Houston 5 2 7 14
L.A. 8 1 9 12
N.O. 6 3 9 12
Phoenix 6 5 11 10
S.A. 3 5 8 13
Utah 5 2 7 13

The N.O. loss hurt us in this category.  Note that we are now second only to Phoenix in these games -- in general, our rivals have a few more difficult home games left than we do.  A split in the N.O./Boston games was no surprise, and no major setback.

Cat 1

W

L

Played

Left

Portland

5

1

6

14

Dallas

8

0

8

13

Denver

8

0

8

12

Houston

6

2

8

12

L.A.

10

0

10

10

N.O.

5

1

6

14

Phoenix

4

1

5

15

S.A.

10

1

11

9

Utah

7

2

9

12

Houston and S.A. each lost one of these games this week.  Hopefully, that makes us feel better about the Clips loss.  Phoenix, N.O., Portland, and Dallas are the teams with a lot of these games left.

All Home Games

W

L

Played

Left

Portland

12

4

16

25

Dallas

10

6

16

25

Denver

12

4

16

25

Houston

11

4

15

26

L.A.

18

1

19

22

N.O.

11

4

15

26

Phoenix

10

6

16

25

S.A.

13

6

19

22

Utah

12

4

16

25

Not a lot to see here, L.A. and S.A. both have fewer home games remaining.  The Spurs are a good road team, and we aren't catching the L@kers this year anyway.  We still have a good home record, but some others have gained on us.

All Away Games

 

W

L

Played

Left

Portland

8

10

18

23

Dallas

10

7

17

24

Denver

11

8

19

22

Houston

10

10

20

21

L.A.

9

4

13

28

N.O.

9

6

15

26

Phoenix

9

6

15

26

S.A.

9

5

14

27

Utah

7

11

18

23

Houston and Denver have fewer road games left.  Utah has the same number as we do, but most of them are against winning teams. 

All Games Against Winning Teams

W

L

Played

Left

Portland

10

12

22

20

Dallas

5

9

14

28

Denver

7

11

18

24

Houston

9

9

18

24

L.A.

13

3

16

25

N.O.

9

8

17

25

Phoenix

7

10

17

24

S.A.

6

9

15

26

Utah

6

8

14

27

Against winning teams, only L.A., Houston, and N.O. have a better overall record than we do.  Also, there is a huge disparity in number of games played -- we have played 22 of our games against winning teams, while no one else has played more than 18.  We have less than half of our games against winning teams left (20), while Dallas has 28 remaining, and Utah 27.  This is one of the reasons the spreadsheet doesn't like Dallas and Utah -- they have a lot more hard games left than we do, and they should have put space between us and them while we were playing so many winning teams.

All Games Against Losing Teams

W

L

Played

Left

Portland

10

2

12

28

Dallas

15

4

19

21

Denver

16

1

17

23

Houston

12

5

17

23

L.A.

14

2

16

25

N.O.

11

2

13

27

Phoenix

12

2

14

27

S.A.

16

2

18

23

Utah

13

7

20

21

Against losing teams, Denver, S.A., L.A., Phoenix, and N.O. have better records than us (Dallas drops out of that list).  We have more games left against losing teams than anyone, with only Phoenix, N.O., and L.A. even close. 

Back to Back Games

Total

Road

Cat4

Cat3

Cat2

Cat1

Portland

8

8

4

4

0

0

Dallas

11

6

4

2

2

3

Denver

11

7

4

3

2

2

Houston

9

7

3

4

1

1

L.A.

12

11

6

5

0

1

N.O.

11

9

5

4

2

0

Phoenix

11

9

3

6

0

2

S.A.

10

6

2

4

2

2

Utah

13

11

9

2

0

2

We still have the least remaining back to back games, and arguably the easiest remaining schedule in this factor (Houston and S.A. are close), but all of ours finish with a road game.  Utah still has the most brutal road ahead on these games, by far.   

A Bonus This Week

Because I'm such a nice person, I give you a free New Year's gift -- Winning/Losing standings.  What are Winning/Losing standings, you ask?  They are the biggest reason I'm still extremely optimistic about our chances.  Here, in a nutshell, you can see how many games have been played against winning teams, and how many against losing teams -- and how many are remaining.

W Played

L Played

W Left

L Left

Portland

22

12

20

28

Dallas

14

19

28

21

Denver

18

17

24

23

Houston

18

17

24

23

L.A.

16

16

25

25

N.O.

17

13

25

27

Phoenix

17

14

24

27

S.A.

15

18

26

23

Utah

14

20

27

21

Note the 22-12 disparity between winning and losing teams in our schedule so far, and the 20-28 disparity in our remaining schedule.  Look at Utah and Dallas -- it's almost exactly reversed.  Only N.O. and Phoenix are on the positive side in this by more than one game, and there's still a significant gap between us and them.

That is the best indicator of the brutality of our schedule so far -- 22 of 34 games against winning teams, 12 of those 22 on the road.  That means more than a third of our games so far have been road games against winning teams -- and we're still in playoff position.  If we were 3-4 games out of playoff position right now, we could still be said to have a decent chance.

That's the Boring Stuff

Here's the thing you really cared about:  the jscot Stupid Sched Projections. 

Standard Disclaimer:  How these work (if they can be said to work, which is doubtful), and why they are stupid, is explained in previous posts.  Do not blame me.  This is only the numbers.  It isn't the spreadsheet's fault, either, the spreadsheet is only doing what it is told to do.  Someone was stupid enough to tell the spreadsheet to do it, but we don't want to discuss that.

Playoff seedings if everyone keeps winning in every category at exactly the same rate for the rest of the season, and if no .500 or better team turns into a losing team, or vice versa (is that enough disclaimers)?

  1. L.A. -- 67.0 wins.  They are still evil, even if it isn't 666 this week. 
  2. N.O. -- 55.7 wins.  Big move up for them.
  3. Denver -- 54.6 wins.  Also moved up.  A good week for them despite the Atlanta loss.  Too bad they didn't manage to lose to OKC, that would have been classic. 
  4. Portland -- 53.3 wins, down from 3rd with 54.2.  Last week, I said, "If we're still this high next week, it means we won 2 of the 3 killers this week.  If we do that, the Negative Nancy posters around here will be sentenced to two weeks as fans of OKC."  You Negative Nancys dodged a bullet when Brandon got hurt, and we dropped a little.  We have two home games this week.  With Brandon hurt, one win out of the two would be ok, it will keep us in the hunt.  If we can get them both, we'll rebuild some of last week's damage, and be a step closer to banishing some people to OKC fanhood.  You have been warned.
  5. S.A. -- 52.6 wins.  The spreadsheet punished them for a home loss, but rewarded them for NJ's losses, so they hardly dropped.  I could complain about the stupid spreadsheet, but it rewarded us for NJ's losses, too.
  6. Houston -- 51.0 wins.  In general, teams that want a high seed should try to avoid 1-3 weeks, especially if they include blowout losses to Toronto and, more especially home losses to Washington.  Gee, WIZ, fellas.  The spreadsheet didn't like your week.
  7. Phoenix -- 49.5.  Due to NJ's losses, we have three teams projecting below 50 wins this week.  Phoenix got punished because they lost at home to NJ, which looks really bad to the spreadsheet if the Nets are a losing team, just so-so if they are a winning team.  The reality for Phoenix is probably somewhere between last week's 52.7 projection and this week's 49.5.
  8. Dallas -- 49.1.  Just when you thought Dallas was showing us that they really are better than their bad start and really as good as they've been their last 20 games, they do their best to lose at home to Minnesota (but the T-wolves have this losing thing down pat, and the Mavs couldn't overcome that), and then throw a real clunker at Memphis.  Will the real Dallas stand up?  If they'd managed to lose that game to Minnesota, the spreadsheet would have them right down there close to....
  9. Utah -- 44.5 wins.  The spreadsheet doesn't give much credit for a home win against Philly, nor punish them much for a road loss at L.A.  But it is very unhappy that their home loss to NJ now counts as a loss to a losing team, and that their road win at NJ no longer counts as a road win over a winning team (they only have one of those now, at Detroit).  They are probably being unduly punished for NJ, and if I was smart enough, or at least not too lazy, to make the spreadsheet reflect teams near .500, they might come out closer to 46 wins.  On the other hand, their brutal back to back schedule ahead is not reflected in these projections. 
  10.  

So there it is after last night's games, everything you always wanted to know about upcoming schedules, and a lot of things you didn't want to know, wish you didn't know, and hope to never know again.  Project at your peril.  If shuppatsu can post his updated SOS numbers soon, I'll edit to link to his post and paste them in here as well so you have it all in one place, if that's ok with him. 

Each of the last couple of weeks, there's been an error in the post.  Please let me know if you see anything, and I'll fix it.

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Great job

Totally unscientific: Can the schedule spreadsheet account for injuries and upgrades? Probably not.
LA and NOH look to be safe in the playoffs (unless Kobe or CP3 go down long term). Denver somewhat likely, especially if Melo continues to hit crazy buzzer beaters, Nene plays like an All-Star and Billups keeps glueing everything together (they still want to shed salary though). San Antonio is only going to get better now that they have their big three all back and start to put in some effort. Leaves 5 teams battling for 4 spots. Phoenix found just the right upgrade in a pretty insane trade, and albeit Nash still being unhappy with the “Shaq focus” in the system I can’t see them drop out as of now. Utah plays decent even with one of their main guys out at pretty much any time of the season. Now it’s Boozer, but with Millsap you don’t really notice. Still in the race to win the NW division. Our schedule gets significantly easier as all measurements from the Jscot to the Hollinger to the “rest days/back to back” system indicate. Even with Roy out some time I like our chances if he doesn’t aggravate it (Martell coming back at in a while, maybe an upgrade coming before the deadline). Leaves Houston and Dallas. Dallas is just getting Josh Howard back in the flow, but still dropping games they should win. Houston is just losing it’s first core players to injuries, and dropping all kinds of games. My money at the moment is on Houston dropping out of the race since they historically can’t stay healthy. QED :)

by Norsktroll on Jan 5, 2009 2:41 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Houston might be in trouble

but they have played more road games than anyone, which will certainly help them. And they have enough tools to win a lot even if a key guy goes down.

But they sure didn’t help themselves this week.

Totally unscientific: Can the schedule spreadsheet account for injuries and upgrades? Probably not.

No. And I don’t want it to, because then people might expect it to actually work at projecting what will happen, and the sample size is still way too small. The way it is now, I can just say, “What’s wrong with you? I told you it was stupid.”

LA and NOH look to be safe in the playoffs (unless Kobe or CP3 go down long term). Denver somewhat likely, especially if Melo continues to hit crazy buzzer beaters, Nene plays like an All-Star and Billups keeps glueing everything together (they still want to shed salary though).

All three entirely safe, IMO, barring major injury.

San Antonio is only going to get better now that they have their big three all back and start to put in some effort.

Safe barring major injury, but they are old, so major injury wouldn’t be a shock. They do have a tougher schedule than some. They shouldn’t make a habit of losing home games to the Milwaukies of this world, that could drag them into the mess, but everyone has blips.

Leaves 5 teams battling for 4 spots. Phoenix found just the right upgrade in a pretty insane trade, and albeit Nash still being unhappy with the "Shaq focus" in the system I can’t see them drop out as of now.

Yep. Again, barring major injury. Their schedule is not as hard as others.

Utah plays decent even with one of their main guys out at pretty much any time of the season. Now it’s Boozer, but with Millsap you don’t really notice. Still in the race to win the NW division.

Here we differ. Their schedule has been full of weaklings, and gets very tough from here on out. Their home losses are NJ, Miami, Chicago, and Orlando. They still have Cleveland, Boston, Detroit, Atlanta, L.A., New Orleans twice, Denver, Houston, etc. That’s just their home games — and their road schedule is arguably worse. I think we can book it that they don’t beat out Denver, barring key injuries to Denver, and I’ll be very surprised if we finish behind them. They are headed for third, which may or may not get into the playoffs.

Our schedule gets significantly easier as all measurements from the Jscot to the Hollinger to the "rest days/back to back" system indicate. Even with Roy out some time I like our chances if he doesn’t aggravate it (Martell coming back at in a while, maybe an upgrade coming before the deadline).

Agreed.

Leaves Houston and Dallas. Dallas is just getting Josh Howard back in the flow, but still dropping games they should win. Houston is just losing it’s first core players to injuries, and dropping all kinds of games. My money at the moment is on Houston dropping out of the race since they historically can’t stay healthy. QED :)

I still think Dallas could get dragged into the mess, their schedule is not favorable. Houston is my third choice right now to drop out. I wouldn’t have said that a week ago, but this was a BAD week for them. If it is just a bad week, they’ll bounce back and be fine. They have four in five nights this week, but should really only lose at Boston in the second of them. If they manage to win them all, they’ll be out of the mess again. If they win 3, that would be decent and hold their position. If they lose two, the spreadsheet won’t like that very much. At Philly won’t be easy, and at home against NY on a back to back is a trap game. If they lose three, your prediction here will start to look brilliant.

If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President

by jscot on Jan 5, 2009 7:05 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Do you know this little tool? I have used it all season to convince me our schedule is less horrible than those initial months indicated

http://www.nbastuffer.com/2008-2009_Schedule_Rest_Days_Analysis.html

You are right of course on Utah: No one is safe yet, and for example they have more of the dreaded back-to-backs on the road than almost anyone (17), considerably more than Denver (13) and Portland (12). At least in total, it doesn’t say when they are. The Lakers also have a lot of those (16). Utah historically tends to give away much more away than home games, and especially those. Their fans already feared those games in October. http://www.slcdunk.com/2008/10/8/631107/the-jazz-will-lose-several

I just have the feeling that regardless of their schedule Houston and unfortunately my Mavs will be the teams battling for the spot, and hopefully the Blazers not.

by Norsktroll on Jan 5, 2009 7:23 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Those are two really interesting links

What the Jazz fans weren’t picking up on is the fact that so many of their back to backs on the road were also against good teams. Both of their games in Portland are that kind of game.

Of course, the numbers you give are for the season, so don’t reflect what’s ahead.

There’s no doubt that the Jazz, if they get healthy and put it together, have the talent to get out of trouble pretty easily. But they really need to win some games against good teams on the road, or win everything at home and all the games against losing teams on the road. Considering how many really hard games they have left, they just don’t have much margin for error.

We were in a position where we could afford to lose to Orlando, Clippers, Dallas, and N.O. at home, over a relatively short period of time. We’re still in good position, even after that. If Utah has a stretch like that, turn out the lights.

If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President

by jscot on Jan 5, 2009 8:37 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

this comforts me

December 18, 2008.

"Roy is Roy, and if I were to bet my life on a game of 5-on-5, I’d bet on whichever team Roy was playing on." by HurraKane212

by maid tu rek on Jan 5, 2009 4:51 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

this worries me

If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President

by jscot on Jan 5, 2009 6:45 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

this confuses me

sushi or KFC, don’t make me decide

There is probably no more terrible instance of enlightenment than the one in which you discover your father is a man — with human flesh.
Paul Muad'Dib - Dune (Frank Herbert)

My Translation: My Dad is a dude just like me, and my sons are dudes like me also. I love that.
Season Tix: Section 315, with my sons

by johnv59 on Jan 5, 2009 10:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Should be required reading for all the "Chicken Littles" out there.....

Lots of doom and gloom following Brandon’s injury and a couple of losses to tough opponents.

I am actually of the opinion that this stretch will help speed the maturation process LMA is learning to play with more pressure, GO is getting a few more touches. Rudy and Batum are getting a chance to step up, and JBay is getting to remove the splinters from his backside. All good things in my opinion.

In addition, BRoy is getting a chance to recharge his batteries and rest his knees. I would have preferred that this “experiment” happened against a few lesser teams than the very tough stretch we are playing, but it is, what it is.

The reality is that RLEC means we are on the clock to make a very important personnel decision (or non-decision). This stretch may give us a better idea of what we have, so that we can make the right decision about what we need. In KP, I trust.

by upper left corner on Jan 5, 2009 7:41 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

absolutely

I am very comforted by this info and totally agree with upper left. Just the fact that we were able to pull one out against the Celtics without Brandon is a huge sign to me that our key guys like LaMarcus aren’t just in the process of maturing, but realistically on any given night they are capable of taking the extra load and performing.

The time for Bayless, the starting spot for Rudy – although I would like to see Bayless take one of these next couple of games at the starting spot before Roy gets back if for no other reason than to help get the second unit in gear (Sergio doesn’t seem capable of producing without him) and the pressure on Greg to be aggressive and take on more of the offensive load are all very good things in my book.

Utah seems the most likely candidate to not finish strong in my opinion – yeah its a really safe guess.

On a totally unrelated note: I’m pretty new to this site, but wanted to say that it is very refreshing to have such civilized and intelligent dialogue to enjoy here. I’ve been a member of another site since its inception a couple years ago, and while it has its merrits I do believe that it has lost a lot of its coherent members to the Blazer’s Edge. All that to just say thanks for such a great site!

by Seijeff on Jan 5, 2009 12:16 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Wow!

The new guy talks about us being civil and intelligent on MY fanpost! All you guys take notice. That’s ME he’s talking about, civil and intelligent, like. Everyone pay attention, this guy knows what he’s talking about.

(Er, um, where do I send the check again? And if you tell them you were talking about the site instead of me, I’m not sending it.)

—-
I’m not sure whether Bayless is really ready for starting, but who knows? He seems to be able to do everything we expected except actually put the ball in the hoop. I’m assuming that will probably click for him one of these games, and it could win a game for us.

And yes, I think the pressure on other guys to step up is very good. In actuality, I think we match up pretty well with Boston, so the Boston win is not, to me, as surprising as to others. They can’t handle our size, and the fact that we are missing some of our offensive firepower doesn’t matter as much, because they aren’t likely to score 125 on you — so in a low scoring game, one or two guys getting hot can keep you in the game even if your best scorer is out.

If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President

by jscot on Jan 5, 2009 2:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, it was all you! ;)

I’m not sure about Bayless being able to start either, my thought wasn’t based on any stellar performance by Bayless but rather just stopping the hemoraging of the second unit.

"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."

by Seijeff on Jan 5, 2009 5:15 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, something needs to happen there

If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President

by jscot on Jan 5, 2009 7:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

ROFL

Did you mean to spell intelligent that way? In the context, that’s brilliant.

If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President

by jscot on Jan 5, 2009 9:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm more confused now

you guys are hurting my brain, being so civil

There is probably no more terrible instance of enlightenment than the one in which you discover your father is a man — with human flesh.
Paul Muad'Dib - Dune (Frank Herbert)

My Translation: My Dad is a dude just like me, and my sons are dudes like me also. I love that.
Season Tix: Section 315, with my sons

by johnv59 on Jan 5, 2009 10:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

By the way Seijeff

Welcome, seriously. We like to kid around a lot. Regards.

There is probably no more terrible instance of enlightenment than the one in which you discover your father is a man — with human flesh.
Paul Muad'Dib - Dune (Frank Herbert)

My Translation: My Dad is a dude just like me, and my sons are dudes like me also. I love that.
Season Tix: Section 315, with my sons

by johnv59 on Jan 5, 2009 10:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

thanks!

"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."

by Seijeff on Jan 8, 2009 11:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Great stuff as always.

I can’t wait for the day in a few years when we’re on pace for 70 wins… and all this worry about getting the eighth seed goes away.

by Cablinasian on Jan 5, 2009 8:47 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

After Monday games

1. L.A. — 67.0 wins.
2. N.O. — 55.7 wins.
3. Denver — 54.6 wins. Home win against Indiana (losing team) has no impact because the spreadsheet currently expects them to win 100% of home games against losing teams.
4. S.A. — 54.1 wins. Good road win at Miami moves them up, cancels their bad home loss last week.
5. Portland — 53.3 wins.
6. Houston — 51.0 wins.
7. Phoenix — 49.5 wins.
8. Dallas — 49.1 wins.
9. Utah — 45 wins. Home win against G.S. helps them some.

If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President

by jscot on Jan 5, 2009 9:53 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I'll take 53!

"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."

by Seijeff on Jan 5, 2009 10:40 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Thanks! This type of assurance is how I spell relief.

I really hope we can get some playoff experience THIS YEAR. I don’t expect us to make much noise, but the playoffs are another level. The guys would really benefit from it. Just appearing would not only cap a great year, it would help cement the lessons learned.

(Plus, it looks like we are pretty much knocking down scrubs most of the second season and would need some sustained competition.)

Anyway you can do an air miles per day analysis? We traveled so far those first 25 it was nuts. We got some road games left, but they won’t be in Boston, Toronto, Detroit, or Florida!

by LaoTzu on Jan 5, 2009 11:17 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Coming soon

A Chicago/Philly/NJ/Charlotte trip. That’s the furthest away, 4 games in 6 nights, Philly/NJ are back to back, but since you could probably walk that far in a day if you were motivated, it’s not a hard back to back.

Yeah, we really did rack up the travel, but I don’t know if they get air miles flying on Paul Allen’s jet.

If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President

by jscot on Jan 6, 2009 4:02 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

MSNBC is reporting

that Carmelo is out 3 weeks.

In the next 3 weeks, Denver plays (amazingly) 7 of 8 games at home. Also amazingly, all but one (Sacramento) are against winning teams, and their road game is at Houston. Denver is only 4-4 so far at home against winning teams, but those four losses were L.A., N.O., S.A., and Cleveland. The upcoming games are not as difficult as that, but without Carmelo, it will be interesting to see how they do in those games. They’ll want to at least split those 6 games and beat Sacramento so as not to lose much ground.

Ideally, even though playing winning teams, they would want to open a gap during these home games, because it leaves them a lot of road games the rest of the season. That may be harder to do without Carmelo.

If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President

by jscot on Jan 6, 2009 2:47 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

After Tuesday

Houston was not helped by losing at Philly. Only 6-4 on the road against losing teams. They are getting pulled into the muck. They play at Boston tonight, and Boston is likely to not be in a very good mood.

Dallas did what they were supposed to against the Clips.

New Orleans wins at L.A. Maybe that team we lost to last week is a pretty decent road team after all. Don’t be surprised if they establish some separation, and people begin talking about the battle for the 3-9 spots. The spreadsheet already says they have done that, whatever the standings say. They play at Utah tonight on a back to back. Utah cannot afford to lose this kind of game, and probably won’t, but who knows?

Denver hosts Miami tonight without Melo.

In the most important game for spreadsheet projections, NJ hosts Memphis with a chance to hit .500.

Here’s how it stands today:
1. L.A. — 65.1 wins.
2. N.O. — 57.1, moving up.
3. Denver — 54.6.
4. S.A. — 54.1.
5. Portland — 53.3, a win against Detroit would be a good idea, generally. Not easy, but doable.
6. Houston — 49.6. Oops. They aren’t playing very well. A win at Boston would help them a lot. Four teams now projecting below 50 wins. Don’t expect that to last.
7. Phoenix — 49.5.
8. Dallas — 49.1.
9. Utah — 45.

Plenty of interesting games tonight (L@kers on a back to back at GS, Indiana tries to kill another giant at Phoenix, Hornets at Jazz, etc). I don’t look for us to get a lot of help from other teams, but if the Hornets beat Utah and Celtics beat Houston, it will put two of the prime contenders for the #9 spot in a bigger mess.

Having Brandon out hurts us, but if we win only one of the next two, we stay in a solid position. Win them both, and we keep some real separation between us and the 8-9 battle.

Tonight is the end of the early season gauntlet. From here on, we primarily just have to take care of business against weaker teams and at home.

If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President

by jscot on Jan 7, 2009 3:44 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

After Wednesday (if anyone is still following)

NJ wins and goes back to .500, which shifts everyone’s numbers.
1. L.A. — 66.3 wins. Win at GS on a back to back.
2. N.O. — 55.6. Loss at Utah on a back to back.
3. Denver — 54.7. Home win against Miami negates the NJ shift.
4. S.A. — 53.2. (NJ shift hurts them)
5. Portland — 53.2. Detroit win negates NJ shift.
6. Houston — 50.7. Big win at Boston. They really needed that one.
7. Phoenix — 49.7. Bad home loss to Indiana, wipes out a lot of the NJ volatility in their numbers.
8. Dallas — 47.7. No game, but hurt by the NJ factor.
9. Utah — 46.8. Big home win against N.O., that is the kind of game they must keep winning to get back in this thing. 2-0 this week, home against Detroit on Saturday. They probably need to win at least 80% of their home games against playoff teams.

No changes in the positions, but some significant changes in the numbers.

We got the win we needed this week to keep us in a decent position. If we can also beat the Warriors, we keep some separation between ourselves and the 8-9 mess, which would be superb considering Brandon has been out.

If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President

by jscot on Jan 8, 2009 1:07 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

i dont understand, how duz the detroit win negate the jersey shift?

we havent even played them. unles ur refering to any posive affects it would have…. no i still dont get it. just curious.

December 18, 2008.

"Roy is Roy, and if I were to bet my life on a game of 5-on-5, I’d bet on whichever team Roy was playing on." by HurraKane212

by maid tu rek on Jan 8, 2009 10:00 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

NJ now counts as a winning team

That means our future games against them are now more difficult, according to the spreadsheet. The spreadsheet figures we are more likely to lose those games than we were yesterday, so it hurt our projection that they won last night.

But by winning the Detroit game, we improved our percentage in home games against winning teams, so now the spreadsheet thinks we’ll win more of those remaining games than we would have before.

So the two cancel each other out.

Phoenix has played two games against NJ, losing at home and winning on the road. When NJ is a winning team, that home loss didn’t hurt so badly, because it was to a winning team, and the road win was valuable. With NJ as a winning team, Phoenix was 4-0 against losing teams at home, which means the spreadsheet assumed they would continue at the same pace and win all of their home games against losing teams (they now have 13 more of those games).

When NJ was a losing team (yesterday), Phoenix was 4-1 at home, which meant they would only win 11 of those 13 games. They were also only 1-5 on the road against winning teams, but now they are 2-5, which means they should win about 30% of their remaining Cat 4s (as opposed to 17%). So it really hurt them when NJ was a losing team — but now, the Nets count as a winning team, so Phoenix gets a big bonus. But they wiped out that bonus by losing at home to Indiana.

This also removes some of the volatility in their numbers, because now if NJ loses, instead of being 4-1 in Cat 1 they will be 4-2, and the impact of that change (80-67 = 13% impact on remaining Cat 1s) isn’t as great as the impact of a change from 4-0 to 4-1 (100-80=20%).

Hope that makes sense. It can be kind of confusing.

If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President

by jscot on Jan 8, 2009 10:57 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

nice, yeah, makes sence

i appriciate you taking the time to answer. i really like looking at the the league in this way. obviously its not concreat, but its a (imo) useful sidebar tool, that helps in the distilling prossess. thanks again

December 18, 2008.

"Roy is Roy, and if I were to bet my life on a game of 5-on-5, I’d bet on whichever team Roy was playing on." by HurraKane212

by maid tu rek on Jan 8, 2009 12:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

and im curious on your thought on new jersey

are they due to start winning? could we find ourselves wishing we had played them earlyer in the season, beofre they started meshing well and getting it together?

December 18, 2008.

"Roy is Roy, and if I were to bet my life on a game of 5-on-5, I’d bet on whichever team Roy was playing on." by HurraKane212

by maid tu rek on Jan 8, 2009 12:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

In my opinion

they aren’t that good of a team.

Devin Harris has had his coming out party this year and established himself as a bona fide star, but I suspect people are going to adjust and he won’t dominate as he has.

Right now, I class Boston, LA, Cleveland, and Orlando as the elite of the elite. N.O. and S.A. are close behind. They’ve only played at L.A. and at home against the Cavs against those teams so far, so they have a lot of really tough games left.

They did pick up nice road wins at Phoenix and Utah, and are 3-0 against Atlanta, which is a nice accomplishment.

I somewhat expect them to finish right around .500, maybe a little lower.

Our game there next week is on a back to back, which makes it tough, but it is still winnable (they are back to back, too, at Boston the night before, the trip from Philly is shorter). I’m not too worried about them — no disaster if we lose there, and we should be able to handle them in Portland without too much trouble.

The team I’m glad we have out of the way is Toronto, they are definitely capable of putting it together. The teams I kind of wish we had played earlier are Milwaukie and Philadelphia — both show capability of being really tough on a given night. Both are beatable, but dangerous.

On the other hand, I’m glad we got San Antonio one game right at the start when they weren’t very good.

I could be all wrong on all of this, of course, but that’s my thoughts, FWIW.

If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President

by jscot on Jan 8, 2009 3:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for keeping up with this.

The Nervous Nellie’s should be required to look at this stuff regularly. Makes it clear what the team has accomplished.

by upper left corner on Jan 9, 2009 10:50 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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