The Oden fix
It seems like everytime Oden picks up two early fouls he is done for the night. He might as well go to the locker room shower and dress. Im not a big Oden fan but I hope to be at soom point in time and I hope thats soon. How bout playing him the first 7-8 minutes of first quarter,the last 7-8 minutes of the 2nd,the first 7-8 of the 3rd no matter how many fouls he has. The fourth he could be used sa needed. If he fouls out early so be it at least you will get more out of him than you get now espiecally if he picks up early fouls. Who knows he could be the first to foul out in the first quarter but I think we have the bench to handal it. He would get longer periods of playing time not 3 minutes foul foul out 2 minutes foul out ect. Anyway enough of fantacyland today and heres to hoping they DESTROY the lakers tonight!!!!
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He'll learn
As time goes on, he’ll learn the nuances of the game and the refereeing. Just play him like we will use him later on. He’s been babied (sp?) enough.
I think the refs are out to get him at this point.
They are pretty tough on rookies. Oden will get better, and the refs will start letting him get away with a little more in the future. It’s just hard to see Greg look so depressed.
My favorite teams are the Blazers and any team that is playing the Lakers.
As soon as he will make the all-start team, he will get the treatment Roy gets from the refs.
And Oden, once again, is a rookie, so non-stop fast break basketball is like fast-forwarding a song while he's trying to learn the lyrics.
i hope
that he will be mentally tough enough to overcome any failures he may had. i’m sure he has had a life full of success and now he is being challenged and needs to overcome some adversity. itll only make him stronger in the end.
Honor Terry Porter
by Philthyanimal on Jan 5, 2009 12:15 AM PST up reply actions
problem is
the NBA is a tough place.
Young big man comes in with a rep, most smart NBA players will go right at him, and fouls are usually the result. as he learns the NBA game, he will get smarter, i think very highly of him as a player and as a person already, the rest will come, but it may take a season or two.
which would make him all of 22 years old. sounds good to me :)
Part of the problem
Is that he gets really tired. When I was at the Toronto game (a decent game for him) I really noticed his level of energy flag about a minute before they took him out…about the time he picked up a foul or two.
As he gets into better shape, he’ll be able to play through the fouls better, but right now a lot of his fouls are driven by exhaustion.
Initially, conditioning and nerves were big factors in all the foul calls
Now it’s mainly down to learning the players and the refs, I think. That’ll take some time; rookie bigs typically do struggle with foul trouble. Sure, GO is also getting the rookie treatment; the refs have to learn to understand and respect YOUR game when you break in. But I’d say that’s a minor factor in all the fouls GO has been picking up.
Re/ learning the refs, here’s an off-base analogy: from grade school ball(!). I’m sure that a lot of BE readers will be able to relate to this one:
I picked up fouls in bunches(actually my whole team did) when I first started playing games with referees. After awhile, we realized that according to the grade school refs, any time you reached around a dribbler to knock the ball loose, that was a foul. It didn’t matter whether or not you made contact with the dribbler’s hand or body. The call was always the same: foul. (Maybe the logic was that, the quality of grade school dribbling being what it is, no one would ever score a basket if the defense were allowed to poke at players’ dribble!) But anyway, after a game or two, we adjusted.
No doubt GO adjusted to that kind of officiating quirk in AAU ball, again in high school, and again at Ohio State. Now he’s in the NBA, and he’s having to realize what’s considered a foul at that level and conversely what you can get away with. He’s having to break old defensive habits—like reaching down to block shots—in order to adjust. At the same time, he’s learning the differences between how individual refs and officiating crews call games. Plus he’s having to adjust to the generally higher level of speed, strength, size, and quickness of his opponents—as well as learning their individual strengths & weaknesses. One other adjustment GO is having to make: adjusting to the changes in his body since he played last. GO has lost some speed and lateral movement (though he’s getting better by the week), so his body isn’t always reacting as quickly as he’s used to.
GO will make all these adjustments; he’s a smart and talented basketball player. But he’s also a 20-year-old rookie, and there’s some things in life you can’t get around. One of those is the growing pains of becoming an NBA player.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
by hurryup09 on Jan 4, 2009 6:31 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Not a big fan of Greg Oden?
Your heart is stone.
Oden/Pryz
LMA/Frye
WebFoot/Trout
Roy/Rudy
Blake/Bayless
**Champs 08-09**
by BigCelPhone on Jan 4, 2009 9:45 PM PST reply actions
nice post
I agree completely. A rookie big man, w/skills, but a lack of experience. Is going to have a huge adjustment period. Add micro-fracture surgery to the equation, and what we are seeing today is amazing! When this kid finds his NBA legs, the rest of the league better look out!!!!!
yeh this year is way better than bynum's rookie year if my memory serves me right
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Part of it
Is also the Blazers constant switching on Pick and Rolls. Every time I watch this team, I see Blake trying his hardest to guard a 4/5, and LMA or Oden out on the ball-handler. That is a great way for Oden to pick up fouls, along with any big man. They never switch back or anything. It is honestly kind of depressing.
I actually noticed one sequence tonight when they DID switch back
As I recall, Blake & Batum got stuck on each other’s men, and when the opportunity arose, Blake motioned for them to switch back—which they did successfully. But I hadn’t noticed the Blazers doing that before. Maybe it’ll come with experience playing together.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
I see this all the time too.
It’s rediculous to see Greg shadow a guard on the perimeter. You know he’s gonna get a foul. Laker guards, on the other hand, fought through screens well and did’nt get lost on the switch.
i really like this idea, and with the benafit of hindsight,
would have been in favor of employing from the start of the year. but we’re two far along to change now, and he is getting his legs now, so ill think we’ll be fine sooner then later. but i agree, it would have maximised his playing time and sped up his conditioning, and possibly improved his learning curve. but at the cost of how many games?
December 18, 2008.
"Roy is Roy, and if I were to bet my life on a game of 5-on-5, I’d bet on whichever team Roy was playing on." by HurraKane212

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