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Game 34 Preview: Blazers vs. L*kers

Once again into the breach.  We've got our bayonets fixed, our infantry rifles sighted in, our back-up sidearms at our belt, and we're about to go up against a tank of monstrous proportions.

A Look at the L*kers

Unless you've been living in a Blazers-only cave for the whole season (hey...some of us like our little nooks, especially when they have ancient Drexler and Walton petroglyphs on the walls) or have avoided any publicity about them on general principle, you already know that the L*kers are one of two legitimately super-elite teams in the league.  They are every bit as good as the Celtics in just as many ways.  The two teams shade in inverted fashion.  The Celtics are an overwhelming defensive team whose offense is so good that you have almost no hope of defending them in like fashion.  The L*kers are an overwhelming offensive team whose defense is so good that you have almost no hope of scoring alongside them.  It's like asking whether you prefer to get beheaded with a guillotine or a huge axe.  Couldn't we just play the Timberwolves again instead?  That's like being beheaded with a Nerf bat.

Since the axe is going to fall, you might as well know that its sharpest edge is the number of field goal attempts L.A. takes and the high percentage they shoot.  There's a line in this league where shots are maximized without having to employ gimmicks that compromise your defense and/or rebounding.  The L*kers are just about as close to that line as you can get without going over it.  They shoot a lot, they hit a lot.  The stout handle on that axe--and the camel-breaking straw that spells most teams' doom--is their great offensive rebounding.  You can count the teams better in that category on less than one hand.  (Portland is among them.)  Oh, and if that isn't enough they're also 4th in the league in both free throws attempted and made. That offensive combination is enough to overcome your average team and most of your better-than-average ones as well.  At 26-5 that's just what the L*kers have been doing. 

On the other end the L*kers manage to play good percentage defense while forcing turnovers...no mean feat as the legion of teams that can only do one or the other demonstrate.  They're average defensive rebounders, which is good enough.  They have some shot-blocking ability as well, mostly from Andrew Bynum.

Honestly, it's hard to find things the L*kers don't do well, and when you do it's like finding a mole on Jessica Alba's shoulder.  Ummmm...so what?  They allow latitude to opposing guards to shoot and pass, preferring to bar the middle.  They'll allow lesser teams to play with them or get back in the game.  Complacency is pretty much their biggest enemy.

You should know enough about Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol, and Andrew Bynum by now not to need much of a primer on them.  Luke Walton has been playing token minutes as the starting small forward and the venerable Derek Fisher has been playing big minutes as the starting point guard.  Trevor Ariza has started fulfilling some of his early-career promise by giving them a huge lift off the bench at small forward.  Lamar Odom is another key bench guy who always gives the Blazers trouble.  Jordan Farmar, Vladimir Radmanovic, and Sasha Vujacic round out the main rotation.  Of the lesser lights Fisher and Ariza have been having the best seasons, though you can't sleep on Odom and you can't let Radmanovic or Vujacic have open shots.

Keys to the Game

Honestly there aren't any keys that are reasonably going to turn a defeat into a victory, especially without Brandon Roy playing.  The Blazers just have to hope that the L*kers have an off-night and that we can provide more energy and drive.  L.A. has lost exactly one game at home this season, a 106-95 defeat at the hands of the Pistons back on November 14th.  They just don't back down on their home turf.  Nevertheless, if we are to have any chance some of the following will be important.

1.  Hustle always helps underdogs pull through.  We have to want it more and we have to play hard all game.  The beginning and ending of quarters are particularly important.  You can be 2 minutes out from halftime and cruising but if you let up L.A. will paste 10 points on you in that 2 minute span.  Focus, attention, and energy are the order of the evening.

2.  I don't see any way we win this game without dominating efforts from Lamarcus Aldridge and Greg Oden.  We need points, rebounds, and defense.  If this is just the Kobe show maybe we have a shot.  If Kobe, Gasol, and Bynum are all open on the offensive end and don't have to work defensively you can just pencil in the blowout loss now.

3.  We must, must, MUST find a way to limit the L*kers offensive rebounds.  It's bad enough having to defend them once each trip.  Giving up a ton of second-chance points is going to put the game out of reach.

4.  Rudy Fernandez has to figure out a way to make Kobe work.  I'm not expecting a bad offensive outing for Bryant.  I just want him to work up a sweat and put up a lot of shots to get his 32 points.

5.  Since we're calling out individual players here, the not-so-hidden offensive spark may be Travis Outlaw.  If he came out with a 20+ point game all of a sudden the point deficit doesn't look so bad.

Final Thoughts

With Roy out this game doesn't have quite the luster of the normal Portland-L.A. contest.  I'm just hoping the Blazers play hard and don't get obliterated...or at least don't get obliterated until really late in the game.

Check out the L.A. view with our old friends at ForumBlueandGold.

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Maybe Gasol will accidentally toss a few passes Rudy’s way. Go Spanish Armada!

MLB2PDX!!! (someday...)

by The Cactus Leaguer on Jan 3, 2009 11:39 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

It's Lamar who does stuff like that

Evidence 1

Evidence 2

Or maybe he could just pull one of these.

"Another spam message pops up. It gets trapped. Nowhere to go. To the recycle bin. RIP CITY BABY." --Ben describing Schonz checking his email.

by prezofdeath on Jan 3, 2009 11:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

that's good

on the last one I liked hearing “that’s Lamar’s seventh turnover of the night” – can we hope for that?

by jorga on Jan 4, 2009 6:48 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

remember when he intercepted the sergio lob to rudy

it was like the sports movie when the bad guy shuts down your signature move, ’cept in real life.

Activate Shavlik Randolph

by appel82 on Jan 4, 2009 10:21 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

dave

my heart hurts a little thinking about this game.

:(

Sophia

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

by BlazerFan1 on Jan 3, 2009 11:43 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Have faith

We beat the Celtics without Roy, and we always play the Lakers tough.

"When I have the ball, I experiment." #5

by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 3, 2009 11:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

uh....

opening night.

We’ve played great against them at the RG the last few years, but its been a big time struggle at Staples.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Jan 3, 2009 11:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

uh.....

ok then we have no chance. why even play?

"When I have the ball, I experiment." #5

by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 4, 2009 1:24 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

not saying we have no chance

just pointing out that we don’t always play the Lakers tough.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Jan 4, 2009 10:58 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

but IN LA??

thats not the most difficult place to play but away games in general give me the freaks.

Sophia

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

by BlazerFan1 on Jan 3, 2009 11:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think Cleveland also fits the super-elite bill.

And Orlando is starting to make a case as well.

I heart taxes.

by everett on Jan 3, 2009 11:48 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

+1

Cleveland has arguably been better than LA or Boston this year.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Jan 3, 2009 11:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Its not college football.

The whole weak-schedule argument does not hold the same water in the NBA.

I heart taxes.

by everett on Jan 4, 2009 2:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

After KG and the Chandler slap party . . .

 . . . we’ve had some recent experience being very, very physical.

I know Oden’s propensity for fouls is an issue, but maybe we should bang around a little.
We’ve been through that in a way that is very, very unlaky-like.
Maybe LaMardridge would like to make the opponent look [ the S-word ].

Do it! Do it! Do it 'til you're satisfied!

by QualityPie on Jan 4, 2009 12:00 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

For a HOME GAME?!?

That has happened to him, in a road game.
Any La-La Land resident who subjects him to that before a game
is even stupider than L.A.-level stupid (which is impossible).

Do it! Do it! Do it 'til you're satisfied!

by QualityPie on Jan 4, 2009 12:17 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm an optimist in 99% of situations

but I don’t see any way the Blazers pull this out. If we’d lost to the Celtics maybe the Lakers would take something for granted, but since we beat them the Lakers will have something to play for.

If we play hard, don’t make many mistakes, and only lose by 10-ish I’d be okay with that. If we get blown out I’d still be okay with it but it would hurt more.

If we win…well, I won’t even contemplate that lest my hopes be lifted.

"...we have so many experts who think that you have to play defense, you have to rebound, you have to be a possession coach, you have to execute. I just laugh. Explosive offense is not as intimidating as dominant defense. But it is scary when you don't know how to stop someone." - George Karl, Nuggets coach

by jamon51 on Jan 4, 2009 1:00 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

20 points from Outlaw is not what this team needs ...

… considering 20 points from outlaw typically means the rest of the Blazers aren’t getting the ball.

by BR7formvp on Jan 4, 2009 2:40 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

i dont get this

if outlaw shoots do you root for him to miss?

ignacio

by ignacio on Jan 4, 2009 4:20 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think it was an attack on Outlaw.

Just taking into account how Travis usually gets his shots outside the normal flow of the offense.

by OneTrickPony on Jan 4, 2009 11:18 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

It depends on how he gets them.

Because LA aggressively traps on the strong side, they are vulnerable against teams that can move the ball well and can swing it to the weakside for good looks and that corner 3pt shot. So, Outlaw could have a big night and contribute to a victory by making the open looks he will get.

However, I’m not sure whether LA traps aggressively this time. Defensively, the Lakers want to stop penetration; but with Roy out, I don’t know of any other Blazers that can get into the lane at will and cause the defense to collapse.

LA can live with Outlaw scoring 40 pts by shooting off-balance, leaning jumpshots. But they’ll be in trouble if Outlaw puts up an even 20 by hitting his 3s, attacking the hoop, and crashing the glass.

"I've hacked into your brain. You're throwing a party and no one's showing up."

by ignign*kt on Jan 4, 2009 9:01 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

a good game to evaluate Blazer coaching

they were blindsided by LA’s defensive scheme the first time around. So, no excuses this time around. I’m curious as to what adjustments the coaches make and how well the team executes the gameplan.

"I've hacked into your brain. You're throwing a party and no one's showing up."

by ignign*kt on Jan 4, 2009 3:32 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

i doubt the coaches will be under prepared

i think it will be more how hard the players play and whether they can make adjustments quickly without brandon roy

by Yawnie on Jan 4, 2009 6:02 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Good grief

What a bunch of pessimists.

I make it about a 10% chance we win this game, but 10% is not nothing. Oden is capable of outplaying Bynum. I won’t say it will happen, but it could. LMA is capable of outplaying Pau, it has happened before. Rudy is capable of playing like he did in the Olympic final.

Blake sometimes comes through big time, and Travis can rebound like he did against Houston, and score big as well. Sergio could have a great night, and Bayless could have his coming out party.

We obviously need a lot of things to come together, and even then we need L.A. to not have one of their better nights. But I hope the team reads what some people are writing and gets mad. Because the team that goes on the floor is still better than the bottom feeders of the league (they did beat Boston, after all), and on any given night in the NBA….

If we get crushed, I won’t be shocked or discouraged. There’s a good possibility that will happen. But there’s a legitimate chance, unlikely as it is, of getting a win. It won’t take a miracle, it just takes everyone doing his job and the shots falling. These guys are all legit NBA players, and some of them are more than legit.

LMA has scored 30 on Gasol before, remember? Maybe he’ll go for 35, and the guys who say they’ve given up on him will (hopefully) feel stupid.

If anyone is going through a letdown, it is likely to be the L@kers, since Brandon isn’t there.

If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President

by jscot on Jan 4, 2009 6:18 AM PST reply actions   2 recs

Right now,

I’ll go ahead and write how Travis cost us the game and why.

"Both Anthony Carter and Jameer Nelson were downright jubilant in the Magic locker room postgame. Carter said to no one in particular, "Brandon Roy, that man is unstoppable, it's like he's playing NBA Live" and Nelson was cracking on his teammates for not being able to guard Brandon. The kinds of jokes you can make when you win."

by loyal_blazer on Jan 4, 2009 1:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

holy smokes

This is hilarious.

by Bedhead on Jan 4, 2009 2:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

i havnt givin up on him.. yet

i really am not worried about wether we win or lose, but much more in how lma performs during this stretch without roy. he needs to show up for more then just 1 out of 8 quarters. i wont feal stupid, if lma kills it and steps up, instead ill feal greatful

December 18, 2008.

"Roy is Roy, and if I were to bet my life on a game of 5-on-5, I’d bet on whichever team Roy was playing on." by HurraKane212

by maid tu rek on Jan 4, 2009 6:42 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I love you, oh ruler.

"Aneurysm".

When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie

by annthefan on Jan 4, 2009 11:46 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I know

but you’ll have to get in line, there’s a long queue.

If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President

by jscot on Jan 4, 2009 12:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't love you THAT much.

"Aneurysm".

When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie

by annthefan on Jan 4, 2009 12:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The queue moves quickly

all they have to do is kiss my hand and move on.

If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President

by jscot on Jan 4, 2009 12:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

:p

"Aneurysm".

When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie

by annthefan on Jan 4, 2009 12:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Travis is going to need to do more than score 20 points.

He’s going to have to try to not give the other team an opportunity to score 8-12 points off of ghastly turnovers and try to rebound too.

by TSE on Jan 4, 2009 6:39 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Report from the Blazer Cave...

…what?

Elizabeth had a partner and he had a rap from the cops, Him and Lenny Suckerpunch were just out Tooling around

by Lizzy Lowblow on Jan 4, 2009 7:35 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Maybe we should do a trash travis post (tongue in cheek)

he always comes out 2 guns blazin after one of those

Do you know what you are?...You are What U is..You is what U Am..A cow don't make Ham...you ain't what u Not...so see what you got..You are what U is..And that's all it 'tis.... F.Zappa

by LetsBlaze on Jan 4, 2009 8:50 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

My thoughts on this (if you have this and a nickle, you can buy a piece of gum)

Posted this on the O Crap Brandon’s Injured thread…but I thoiught I was here . . .

Everyone needs to remember what they are good at and make that part of their game work….

Confidence in your role/niche whatever – – exploit your strengths – – intensity needs to be at 125% – -

we need to force turnovers…when we are fast on the floor its run and press – – doesn’t take special talent to play that kinda D just intensity .. it would be a surprise because the Blazers haven’t done it yet…

Would love to see some rotations that are different and force LA to react….

Like Rudy, Bayless, LMA, Batum, Travis for 3 minutes – – thats a long fast team that can score from anywhere on the floor and create a fair amount of pressure on D – – we’ve never had Batum and Trav on the floor at the same time .. they would either wreak havoc or get run off the floor…but if we can use the whole team to cause LA to become reactive rather than proactive we might create an opening…

Do you know what you are?...You are What U is..You is what U Am..A cow don't make Ham...you ain't what u Not...so see what you got..You are what U is..And that's all it 'tis.... F.Zappa

by LetsBlaze on Jan 4, 2009 9:23 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I expect Rudy to do his job today

He is the one that must take offense responsibility in key moments, and not shooting three pointers, he has to drive and draw some fouls.
If Nate is going to play again combo gurads, the perfect match is Bayless/Blake-Sergio/Rudy. The Bayless/Sergio lineup that we saw some minutes against NO lacks of 3 point shooting, they should not play together. Also the twin towers is a good option today against Bynum/Gasol to give LMA some rest minutes. My concern is who is going to guard Kobe, Batum can be the best option, then Rudy… it can be a nightmare having Travis gurading Kobe.

Free Sergio!

by ABSF on Jan 4, 2009 9:24 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Actually Trout has done a great job defending Kobe in the past

One of my favorite moments from last season:

Rudy for ROY
Campaign 08-09

"Rudy is not everyday a shooter." ~Rudy Fernandez

by twiggs on Jan 4, 2009 1:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks twiggs.

"Aneurysm".

When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie

by annthefan on Jan 4, 2009 2:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No problem :)

Rudy for ROY
Campaign 08-09

"Rudy is not everyday a shooter." ~Rudy Fernandez

by twiggs on Jan 4, 2009 2:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah,

he has this redikulouse ability to rise to the ocation when the odd are stacked against him

December 18, 2008.

"Roy is Roy, and if I were to bet my life on a game of 5-on-5, I’d bet on whichever team Roy was playing on." by HurraKane212

by maid tu rek on Jan 4, 2009 4:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If Oden can stay out of foul trouble..

The blazers will have a chance. A tiny one, but they will have one. Phil is smart though, and I would look for lakers to take it right at Oden right from the beginning. He is going to need some help. Also…if they do go right at him, if he is going to foul he needs to make it count. Make guys give it a second thought before taking it in there. Put K*be on his back once or twice.

And Travis….dear, dear Travis. Other than Kobe, I don’t think they have a defender he can’t blow past. He needs to take it to the rack, stop these moronic shots. Or heck….even PASS the ball once in a while. LMA can score on Gasol, but he also probably cannot stop him.

by tmundal on Jan 4, 2009 9:56 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

A problem that I see is that LMA is not going to outplay gasol because Gasol has improved a lot this year. He is a monster right now.

I’ve seen all lakers and portland matches and… the blazers doesn’t have many chances without Roy.

by Kartemax on Jan 4, 2009 9:59 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Gasol is clearly a lot better than Aldridge

No question about it. For the Blazers to have a chance, LMA has to outplay him for one night. Unlikely, but as mentioned above, it has happened before.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Jan 4, 2009 10:59 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

match ?

It's GO time !

by walkoff41 on Jan 4, 2009 1:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Two Cents

Rather than have any one guy produce a heroic performance and lift us to victory, or see lots of experimenting with weird line-ups, I’d like to see:

  • Good defense and no bad switch-offs
  • No easy baskets given up
  • No stupid fouls
  • No stupid shot selection

In short, no repeat of the New Orleans game. If we do all that and lose, I’ll still be bummed, but not completely depressed. In fact, I’ll be impressed.

by ofred on Jan 4, 2009 10:07 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

yes

i just want a good game. the match ups are scary, but the “2nd unit” whatever that is now, will have a chance, Ariza vs Outlaw scares me the most though.

Activate Shavlik Randolph

by appel82 on Jan 4, 2009 10:29 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Good post

The Blazers are at a point in their development where I don’t think it’s realistic to expect them to consistently beat the title contenders, but what I’m looking for is improvement in weak areas from game to game (case in point the two Celtics games) and that will lead to positive results. The only thing that would really upset me is a deer in the headlights performance like opening night, but that isn’t going to happen (I hope).

Bayless has been testing the fences for weaknesses

by blazeraddict on Jan 4, 2009 12:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

exzactly
The Blazers are at a point in their development where I don’t think it’s realistic to expect them to consistently beat the title contenders, but what I’m looking for is improvement in weak areas from game to game (case in point the two Celtics games) and that will lead to positive results

December 18, 2008.

"Roy is Roy, and if I were to bet my life on a game of 5-on-5, I’d bet on whichever team Roy was playing on." by HurraKane212

by maid tu rek on Jan 4, 2009 4:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

i just want consistancy from lamarkus

December 18, 2008.

"Roy is Roy, and if I were to bet my life on a game of 5-on-5, I’d bet on whichever team Roy was playing on." by HurraKane212

by maid tu rek on Jan 4, 2009 4:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

tomorrow at 1

will be the 1st game AB (After Blazers) for Darius as well. Could be interesting (or sickening depending on your point of view) to watch

"Damn the Blazers. Damn them to hell. They are working the rest of the league like a speed bag." - Bill Simmons 6/26/08

by SpyderRyder on Jan 4, 2009 10:51 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Was tonight actually

He got on the floor with Memphis winning big. 9 more to go.

by danielfarrell on Jan 4, 2009 5:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

geez.........

You guys are more optimistic about the Lakers chances than us Laker fans. Thanks for the support.

by pslakerfan on Jan 4, 2009 10:52 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I agree

Oh, well, too many of these guys thought we were doomed against Boston, too.

Fortunately, the game isn’t decided in fan forums.

If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President

by jscot on Jan 4, 2009 12:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds about right

I said 10% chance of a win, so they roughly agree with me. Agreeing with me is generally a good idea, something I highly recommend.

If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President

by jscot on Jan 4, 2009 12:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know about more optimistic

this seems pretty optimistic to me…“Keys To The Game: Things are pretty straight forward against the Trailblazers — they can score in bunches but do not defend all that well. The Lakers will get their points in this one, how easy the win is depends on how focused they are on defense.”

“how easy the win is”….sounds to me like the outcome has already been decided

by SalemORguy on Jan 4, 2009 12:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Rudy and Sergio need to spike Pau's cigs before the game...

while they are hanging out drinking wine/eating paella during the 3pm ciesta…

G.O. Crazy G.O. Crazy, I wanna party in your tummy!!!

by broyposse on Jan 4, 2009 12:31 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

10 % chance ?

      I’ll buy that, but nothing in the world of
sports would be greater for me, including
the home win against the defending WC,
than upsetting the team formerly from
Minneapolis.
      DOWN WITH THE HATED !!!!
                         GO BLAZERS !!!!

It's GO time !

by walkoff41 on Jan 4, 2009 1:15 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

OK I am as nervous as the next fan

But did we all forget the last game at Staples when Roy was injured last season? We barely lost that game and we didn’t have Oden, Bayless, Rudy or Batum in that line up. I think we have better chances that everyone is saying.

Rudy for ROY
Campaign 08-09

"Rudy is not everyday a shooter." ~Rudy Fernandez

by twiggs on Jan 4, 2009 1:59 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

tonight....

Is about being competitive throughout the game, and proving that we can’t/won’t get bullied in LA like on opening night.

Championship Parade, Downtown Portland, 2011.

by 'till you're satisfied on Jan 4, 2009 3:21 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

is this game on KGW?

i seem to remember reading somewhere that it is… but i haven’t seen anything to confirm… anyone know?

The end is in the beginning and yet I go on....
-Beckett

by eyeotiger on Jan 4, 2009 4:22 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

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