Henry Delivers RLEC Must-Read
by Ben Golliver on Jan 29, 2009 1:37 PM PST
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I love to play a pretty dorky board game called Settlers of Cataan. It's not the kind of thing I would normally want to put on TrueHoop, but dammit, I'm making a point here.
Settlers of Cataan has a load of haggling. Basically, every turn every player can flat out barter some or all of her cards. I used to play with my neighbor a lot. And more than a few times, I would be just killing it in that game, and then he would shut down trade with me. Just flat stop listening to all of my offers. Even when I was offering him three good cards for the one lousy I one I happened to need.
And I crushed him every time he did that.
I would hate to play Settlers of Cataan against KP, especially knowing Tom Penn would be over his shoulder, poring over the game rules looking for loopholes.
That's actually a must-ask question for KP: how freaking awesome are you at board games? I can see this guy just killing at Chutes and Ladders, Parcheesi, Chinese Checkers, Backgammon, Trivial Pursuit and, especially Monopoly, when he whips out some PAM to buy up all the property before the game starts and then charges you admission just to have the luxury of forking over more of your money as you visit all of his property as you circle the board.
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Honestly I have a great idea...
We will have all this capspace if we let RLEC stay with the team.. How about we use a small fraction of the money and sign a stand up player in Raef LaFrentz???
Roy To The World
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 29, 2009 1:41 PM PST reply actions
Or buy TONS of CANDY!
Not that I dislike LaFrentz but in all seriousness, why in the hell would we do that?
All due respect and all.
by ArbyOSU on Jan 29, 2009 3:37 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Henry's right though...
GMs will still deal with KP if it helps their team. They may be pissed about the e-mail about Miles sent around, but money talks.
GMs aren't running the show
GMs may be in charge of players, but the owner is in charge of the bottom line—and if the owner says “You’d better make a bleeping deal or whatever you have to do to get us to X dollars next year,” if the GM would like to keep being a GM, they’ll do what’s necessary.
Of course, that’s in a situation where the fiscal outlook is dire enough to mandate it, but Henry seems pretty clear that most teams are experiencing that anxiety, to different degrees. The ones that have other options may be able to afford sanguinity, but the teams who need cash and need it now will look at $6mil big ones, and tell their GMs to DO THIS DEAL. Or rather, doing the deal will offer the path of least resistance, and that’s what “get us under X dollars” will lead to.
As usual, KP’s got the league over a barrel. I’d also note that Ford says “more than one” GM wouldn’t deal—but there are 30 GMs, 29 not named Kevin Pritchard. If KP wants to deal, he will find a partner, I’m confident.
Don't hate the player, hate the game
Oh, and I would play against KP: I would bring the inventor of the game with me :)
Apparently there's a juicy trade rumor from Quick
Involves an Eastern Conference team.
Involves a PG and SF.
Involves 3 bench players from the Blazers and RLEC.
Quick makes it sound like it could be future championship pieces.
I’m thinking possibly Deng and Hinrich. Maybe Wallace and Felton? Sessions and Jefferson?
BINGO, BANGO, BONGO
I thought you said championship pieces :-()~
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Me thinks your standards are too high
Blazers give up 3 bench players and a guy in Iowa.
BINGO, BANGO, BONGO
Yeh, I'm not a big fan of Deng/Hinrich or Sessions/Jefferson
but I’d take Wallace any day of the week if we can get him semi-reasonably.
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Yeah..
Wallace all day every day, all collapsed lung and all, preach on
Roy To The World
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 29, 2009 1:54 PM PST up reply actions
We get Wallace and
we play the Lakers in the west final. Bring the house down babe.
Wallace leads Blazer's as they beat the Lakers in the 2009 WCF game 7
It would be like a time machine!
".. is gumby an alien?"
Yea...
Talked about a minor deal with a Western Conference team which he thinks is unlikely. But he made the major deal with a Eastern Conference team very juicy.
BINGO, BANGO, BONGO
Not a big fan of Deng
Then on the other side, the guy is only 23, so he has the same development potential as Travis and Martell which makes him scary again.
he’s the kind of guy you hear a lot of good things about but im wary of swapping parts with any team that struggles in the eastern conference.
by Ben Golliver on Jan 29, 2009 1:55 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
exactly.
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RLEC + Rudy + Sergio?
That is a lot of goods. Yeh and you just mentioned bulls pair. I’d say no to that in a jiff. I’d consider it or something similar for Gerald Wallace, otherwise I’d say foh-get it.
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and, I think KP would be hesitant to deal Rudy so early in his career.
I think he really trusts his scouting department and their processes. He wants to see what Rudy is 3 years down the road. I really don’t see a Rudy deal in the near future, period.
tha’s jus’ me though.
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Dont destroy me...
But sometimes I worry that Rudy is as good as he is gonna get. HOWEVER, I would not trade him no way no how.
Roy To The World
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 29, 2009 1:56 PM PST up reply actions
YOU HAVE VIOLATED THE CODE 243.A.4K OF THE BLAZERS EDGE CODE OF CONDUCT
you will now be terminated. Goodbye.
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It's just a worry!!!!!
I HATE MYSELF PLEASE FORGIVE ME FOR THIS ERROR!!
"There is one way that cutting off trade with a partner could help you," Wolfers explains. "And that's if you're an idiot. If you used to trade a lot with one partner, and they always got the better of you because you don't know what you're doing, then you're right, you would be better off not trading with them any more."
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 29, 2009 1:59 PM PST up reply actions
System balance, restored.
Thank you for your cooperation.
Nah seriously, I know what you’re saying. The dude has played overseas for a long time, so he’s not going to have the growth ceiling of someone like Jerryd Bayless, a kid who’s only played one year of college ball.
Still, I think Rudy will be at least SOMEWHAT better next year, as we see him get used to the NBA lifestyle, the tons of games we play, etc. Right now he’s doing backdoor cuts and bombing threes. Next year look for him to be screening and rolling in Nate’s system a lot more.
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Good Points
I think Rudy is a very unique Euro player, he isn’t like any we’ve really seen, so there is a lot of beautiful mystique in his game, but yes I think his improvements will be subtle, and I think who he is is perfect for us. Would be a travesty to let him go just to bolster a RLEC trade.
"There is one way that cutting off trade with a partner could help you," Wolfers explains. "And that's if you're an idiot. If you used to trade a lot with one partner, and they always got the better of you because you don't know what you're doing, then you're right, you would be better off not trading with them any more."
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 29, 2009 2:02 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
yup
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that was funny stuff
and I also agree
"His name is Jeremiah Johnson and they say he wanted to be a mountain man." -Neil Everett
by SabonisBonus on Jan 29, 2009 4:28 PM PST up reply actions
nope. rudy is still learning. he might be closer to his ceiling than most people think but he’s not there yet not even close.
by Ben Golliver on Jan 29, 2009 1:59 PM PST up reply actions
Remember people said similar things about Roy
being at his ceiling in year 2, yet he is still improving. Rudy will too.
I think that in any package for RLEC, we have to include a PF because it is clear that Trout is most effective at the 4. Therefore at least one of Frye diogu or Trout will go to sweeten the RLEC deal. That is the Blazers’ biggest logjam. At PG we are a bit too talented as to keep players happy we need a journeyman 3rd stringer, not two young potential starters. And so either Sergio or Baylesss could be swapped for a journeyman PG.
I think we need to be VERY careful...
when we talk about a player’s ceiling. None of has any idea what our young player’s ceiling is. Exhibit A – Brandon Roy.
Rudy is still plenty young with very little NBA experience. Give him 2 more years of Nate’s coaching, and I think he’s gonna be a lights out player…..of course that could be the tequila talking.
by antediluvian on Jan 29, 2009 5:25 PM PST up reply actions
but.. but.. don't most of us know what Sergio's ceiling is allready???
Man, we should forfeit before roy’s hammy explodes, knocking him into LMA’s ear who loses his balance and hits Greg’s knee… - HurraKane212
http://www.nba.com/news/miles_10_080919.html
the Rudy conundrum
Ok, let’s look at the future here. Roy’s gonna get his 36 minutes a night. That leaves 60 minutes to divide up among other guards (make it 70 if you want to play 10 minutes a night of 3-guard). You gotta figure Rudy is a 30mpg guy. And Bayless fans will think he’s a 30mpg guy in another year or two. That leaves just 10 minutes left— and we haven’t played a single minute yet with a PG on the floor.
Given that most elite teams employ a 3-guard rotations, with a 4th guard getting some toke minutes, do you really see our future 3 guard rotation being Rudy, Roy, and Bayless?
If not, then it seems either Rudy or Bayless has to go at some point, to clear the minutes for a more true PG, with Bayless playing 30mpg as a combo guard
Rule #1 of nitpicking is to get it right.
Tayshaun Prince and Rodney Stuckey. Danny Granger and Jamaal Tinsley (who immediately gets bought out)
One can hope. Yeah, the most realistic ones have been mentioned above.
I was just thinking Prince and Stuckey.
Ohhhh boy…
Rudy for ROY
Campaign 08-09
"Rudy is not everyday a shooter." ~Rudy Fernandez
Yeah not even in a wet dream
"There is one way that cutting off trade with a partner could help you," Wolfers explains. "And that's if you're an idiot. If you used to trade a lot with one partner, and they always got the better of you because you don't know what you're doing, then you're right, you would be better off not trading with them any more."
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 29, 2009 2:05 PM PST up reply actions
Duhon and Lee
????
"There is one way that cutting off trade with a partner could help you," Wolfers explains. "And that's if you're an idiot. If you used to trade a lot with one partner, and they always got the better of you because you don't know what you're doing, then you're right, you would be better off not trading with them any more."
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 29, 2009 2:06 PM PST up reply actions
No one else wants Duhon?
"There is one way that cutting off trade with a partner could help you," Wolfers explains. "And that's if you're an idiot. If you used to trade a lot with one partner, and they always got the better of you because you don't know what you're doing, then you're right, you would be better off not trading with them any more."
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 29, 2009 2:10 PM PST up reply actions
Wonder if we could pick up lee without dishing Serg or Rudy
then we could play the white man lineup….Joel, Lee, Rudy, Sergio. haha.
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and Blake?
"There is one way that cutting off trade with a partner could help you," Wolfers explains. "And that's if you're an idiot. If you used to trade a lot with one partner, and they always got the better of you because you don't know what you're doing, then you're right, you would be better off not trading with them any more."
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 29, 2009 2:15 PM PST up reply actions
right. I knew i was forgetting somebody.
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Still...
Do you not want Duhon?
"There is one way that cutting off trade with a partner could help you," Wolfers explains. "And that's if you're an idiot. If you used to trade a lot with one partner, and they always got the better of you because you don't know what you're doing, then you're right, you would be better off not trading with them any more."
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 29, 2009 2:19 PM PST up reply actions
NY would more likely part with Nate Robinson and Lee
as they are both like Frye and Diogu and must be resigned after this season (which eats into 2010 cap-space) or let walk in free agency.
Correction
2 bench players in the rotation and RLEC for a PG and SF in an eastern conference team. one of the players has been in trade rumors before
He said it's someone the blazers have been targeting for a long time
in the east, the only guy I can think of is Devin Harris
I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich
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“There is one way that cutting off trade with a partner could help you,” Wolfers explains. “And that’s if you’re an idiot. If you used to trade a lot with one partner, and they always got the better of you because you don’t know what you’re doing, then you’re right, you would be better off not trading with them any more.”
Roy To The World
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 29, 2009 1:55 PM PST reply actions
So you are Henry Abbott?
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by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 29, 2009 1:57 PM PST up reply actions
Settlers of Cataan is the bomb.
Setting up the game takes a little while though. I usually conveniently escape and let someone with more enthusiasm set it up.
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lol I think I have it. and Carcassonne.
Never play though because bots are boring and none of my friends are that sophisticated. wah wah wah.
So, for me it’s real life once or twice a month when family comes up to visit. That’s about it.
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you can play settlers online on any computer
i play 2, 3 times a day.
jsettlers.com
sign up, play me.
who wants a piece?
Ive never played, and I want a piece
"There is one way that cutting off trade with a partner could help you," Wolfers explains. "And that's if you're an idiot. If you used to trade a lot with one partner, and they always got the better of you because you don't know what you're doing, then you're right, you would be better off not trading with them any more."
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 29, 2009 2:03 PM PST up reply actions
sea 3d is even better
It’s an actual downloadable client with a really great 3d board and ladder/ranking system. You can play either settlers of catan, or a bunch of different scenarios of seafarers of catan. No bots, just other humans
A beard on a blind man! Too much, I say.
Online doesn't do it for me
I prefer to stare into the souls of my opponents as I trick them into bad deal after bad deal.
Play online
If you don’t want to set it up play online (http://games.asobrain.com/) the computer generated opponents are easy to beat up on.
"I've learned one thing, and that's to quit worrying about stupid things. You have four years to be irresponsible here. Relax. Work is for people with jobs. You'll never remember class time, but you'll remember time you wasted hanging out with your friends. So, stay out late. Go out on a Tuesday with your friends when you have a paper due Wednesday. Spend money you don't have. Drink 'till sunrise. The work never ends, but college does" - Tom Petty
I'll have to do a junk drawer and poll to see what other games people around here play.
Some other favs of mine are Power Grid, Union Pacific, Vegas Showdown….some others…and of course the one that started it all—Acquire.
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Scrabble?!?!!?
"There is one way that cutting off trade with a partner could help you," Wolfers explains. "And that's if you're an idiot. If you used to trade a lot with one partner, and they always got the better of you because you don't know what you're doing, then you're right, you would be better off not trading with them any more."
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 29, 2009 2:11 PM PST up reply actions
word games? bluhhh
Balderdash is ok though, as less of a thinking game and more of a word/party-game thing.
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I love words
"There is one way that cutting off trade with a partner could help you," Wolfers explains. "And that's if you're an idiot. If you used to trade a lot with one partner, and they always got the better of you because you don't know what you're doing, then you're right, you would be better off not trading with them any more."
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 29, 2009 2:13 PM PST up reply actions
me too
just not in my board games. hahah.
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You must love Pictionary and Memory
"There is one way that cutting off trade with a partner could help you," Wolfers explains. "And that's if you're an idiot. If you used to trade a lot with one partner, and they always got the better of you because you don't know what you're doing, then you're right, you would be better off not trading with them any more."
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 29, 2009 2:20 PM PST up reply actions
not quite
I suck at drawing.
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I think you should have to prove that in
The 1st Annual Worst Drawing Person on Blazersedge Contest.
"There is one way that cutting off trade with a partner could help you," Wolfers explains. "And that's if you're an idiot. If you used to trade a lot with one partner, and they always got the better of you because you don't know what you're doing, then you're right, you would be better off not trading with them any more."
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 29, 2009 2:23 PM PST up reply actions
sounds like a sweet contest I might actually win.
Set it up; I’ll be your first victim participant.
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Trust me on this
Last Night On Earth <— Freaking awesome zombie game with excellent game theory.
Settlers and Carcassone are two of my other favorites. I have something like seven expansions for Carcassone.
lol some are ok, but some are just flat out dumb...for Carcassone.
the dragons and castles and fairy one is completely retarded. We don’t even use it. The one with cool castle connectors is cool, and there’s one that has an engineer that is kinda’ cool.
We always play no farming as well. Makes it a lot more fun.
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by prezofdeath on Jan 30, 2009 10:24 PM PST up reply actions
and I'll look into Last night on earth
sounds fun.
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by prezofdeath on Jan 30, 2009 10:24 PM PST up reply actions
The Settlers game sounded really dorky...
until I looked it up and realized that I have played it, too…just a couple times, but I remember it being pretty fun.
The cowards never started
The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers
lol i think we used that expansion pack once before boxing it up and stashing it in the game closet.
The seafarers of Catan pack can be fun though.
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Love Blazer's Edge
This blog is great. Love all the stories and participation! Makes for good reads.
Appreiciated!
Looks like this 2nd half is going to get very interesting.
by Nate Timmons on Jan 29, 2009 2:12 PM PST up reply actions
So truthfully, do you ever find yourself missing Iverson or is Chauncy so smooth that you don't really think about Ai?
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Not exactly Championship pieces
but that could be it
"There is one way that cutting off trade with a partner could help you," Wolfers explains. "And that's if you're an idiot. If you used to trade a lot with one partner, and they always got the better of you because you don't know what you're doing, then you're right, you would be better off not trading with them any more."
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 29, 2009 2:12 PM PST up reply actions
Settlers of Catan
A) I love Settlers of Catan.
B) Thanks to Henry for the email chat about Gerald Wallace.
C) Each person who decides against trading with the Blazers, hurts the Blazers just as much as it hurts them, right? So each successive team that decides to hurt the Blazer’s impacts the Blazers more than it impacts the team. So if 1 team decides against trading the Blazer’s their Total loss is 1/29 trading power, but with each successive team that is added it hurts the Blazer’s worse (1/29 + 1/29 +1/29 etc. etc.) so the Blazer’s Total trading power lost could be anywhere from 1/29 to 29/29. So I can see how this could hurt Portland.
D) But at the same time this is a valuable commodity to the Blazers, and possibly even more valuable to the other teams. So its like in Catan when you have a resource that other players need but you can still use. Then the piece becomes very valuable, and could break the cartel, because they have to give you incentive to trade that resource, because why would you want to give that resource away (and help them), when you could use it yourself?
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sorry I'll clarify C
Any team that decides against Trading with the Blazers loses 1/29 trading power, and hurt the Blazers by 1/29. So the team deciding against trading will not get hurt worse than 1/29.
The Blazers will get hurt 1/29 for each team that decides against trading with them. So the Blazers will get more hurt in this situation then each individual team will. So I do see this as a bit of a concern.
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Not exactly true
as the cartel thing hold all it takes is one team and the Blazers are not hurt at all while the other teams are still hurt by not making a trade for a commodity that would have helped them. But when if ever has 29 teams had an offer on the table at the same time to a single team (okay probably for Portland’s #1 pick in 2008) letting that one team take the best pick of the 29 offers. Ususal y there are no more than a handful of offers anyway at any given time.
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That would be the case (C)
But I’m going to assume that the Darius Mile’s thing will blow over in a year or so and as long as Pritchard doesn’t turn the next draft into his personal play-toy, most GM’s will be worrying about the next thing.
I think the majority of the teams that are taking a ‘ethical’ stand against trading with Portland are those that have no desire for RLEC. It’s easy to say I won’t trade with that guy because he’s a jerk, when that guy has nothing you want.
Agreed
Because when it comes right down to it, any team that thinks a trade with Portland might help them WILL trade with us.
If a team sees nothing they want or has nothing to give, naturally they will say they aren’t trading with us for those reason, makes them look better.
Less likely to make a trade
Probably not much impact, but since I see the Blazers using this part of the season to rack up wins, that can only hurt the chances of a trade, IMO.
yeh
the theory might be just let the good times roll, rather than mess up the chemistry.
then again, what better time to have a new guy in the locker room then when you’re winning….
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To me
the Blake injury may have reduced the possibility slightly, because Sergio and Jerryd are showing enough to give credence to what some of us have been thinking all along — we don’t necessarily need another PG.
And if we don’t necessarily need another PG, then that means we don’t have a “have to upgrade” situation.
On the other hand, I think everyone can see that we have three desirable PGs, which means we have more flexibility in making a trade, and a greater chance that prospective trading partners will be motivated to make a trade. That would say it is more likely.
On balance, though, I would say less likely. But KP isn’t really looking at this stretch of games for any trade significant enough to include Raef, he’s looking at April/May in 2010 and later years. The possible exception would be if another PG gets hurt and he decides to rent someone like Jason Kidd for the rest of the season to get us into the playoffs. Unlikely.
When I rule the world, everyone will know how to use Excel.
This is the best part:
“And that’s if you’re an idiot. If you used to trade a lot with one partner, and they always got the better of you because you don’t know what you’re doing, then you’re right, you would be better off not trading with them any more.”
If there is no trade that is the reason. The other GM’s are idiots.
I'd make a GM
I crush any and everyone I play in SoC. I can’t even get my friends to play with me anymore.
Thanks for clarifying that. I was wondering which GM you'd make.
Spanish Main: The point of departure for enormous wealth in the form of gold, silver, gems, spices, hardwoods, hides, alley-oops, assists and three pointers.
Love the Cataan reference
That game is a load of fun and I could see Prtichard smoking everyone here in it.
Oh yeah, it only takes 1
Memphis showed us last year that it only takes one other team to make a trade. If another GM is put off by the Blazers, chances were he wasn’t going to do anythign anyway.
Oh yeaahhh...
says Kevin with a toothy, barely lucid smile.
Spanish Main: The point of departure for enormous wealth in the form of gold, silver, gems, spices, hardwoods, hides, alley-oops, assists and three pointers.
Not to get all "Geeky" on you Ben
But there is now way KP plays checkers, Parcheesi or Monopoly, he is busy playing “real” games like Puerto Rico, Race for the Galaxy, and Agricola.
(BGG’ers represent!)
I don't know
Part of me thinks of KP as the type of guy who would try to sell you insurance policies in Monopoly so you can land on his properties for free, if you give him $100 a turn.
Favorite Line:
“There is one way that cutting off trade with a partner could help you,” Wolfers explains. “And that’s if you’re an idiot. …” – Wolfers
Hillarious
Puerto Rico > Settlers of Catan .. even though I dominate at Settlers more than Puerto Rico.
".. is gumby an alien?"
Ben, I had no idea you were for drafting Durant over Oden
as determined from your moniker in the replies to Herny’s post.
bwahahahaha that would up the comedic value like 300000 percent in our locker room
by Ben Golliver on Jan 29, 2009 4:47 PM PST up reply actions
whenever I think of Rondo
I see Chris Webber doing his “RONDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!”
That was hilarious.
We have narrowed it down in various threads (unfortunately), but there are still several combos possible
Quick said something interesting that is true independent of who we trade with: Raef only gets traded if that makes us a contender. Since after that, we really have to stand pat / can only make minor moves. So if you hear a trade rumor involving Raef: Does that make the Blazers a contender (maybe not immediately so it doesn’t have to be a stone old veteran, but down the road). John Salmons rumor fails that "sniff test" how he called it. If they don’t trade him, which free agent they could acquire instead makes the Blazers a contender. And so on.
RL-BEC > RLEC
Elizabeth had a partner and he had a rap from the cops, Him and Lenny Suckerpunch were just out Tooling around
help me out hear, what does that mean???
Man, we should forfeit before roy’s hammy explodes, knocking him into LMA’s ear who loses his balance and hits Greg’s knee… - HurraKane212
http://www.nba.com/news/miles_10_080919.html
In the Article
Henry uses a Heading; Best Expiring Contract
Which refers to Chad Ford calling it a “Super-Expiring Contract”.
Which leads to more silliness from when asking. Which is greater, RL-SEC or RL-BEC?
Elizabeth had a partner and he had a rap from the cops, Him and Lenny Suckerpunch were just out Tooling around
by Lizzy Lowblow on Jan 29, 2009 9:56 PM PST up reply actions
I knew what you were saying.
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by tominhawaii on Jan 29, 2009 10:38 PM PST up reply actions
I don't want anyone new yet
I hope KP sits on Raef’s contract. I don’t care that Ike, Frye, and Shav don’t play and I like watching the guys who do play. I hope KP makes his moves this summer.
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I want McBob back
Other than that, love the team.
If you agree with me: Good, I like being agreeable.
If you [think you] don't agree with me: You really do agree with me. You just haven't realized that I use sarcasm alot, so whatever you didn't agree with, take the opposite of it, and that's what I really mean.
On the same page
Da Bulls and da Wiz need to blow up their teams,we dont
by southern oregon on Jan 29, 2009 8:29 PM PST up reply actions
Wait a minute!
Wouldn’t we be better off just letting RLEC expire? That way we would have more options next year.
Comments anyone?
umm, about 121 of them above you ;-)~
If you agree with me: Good, I like being agreeable.
If you [think you] don't agree with me: You really do agree with me. You just haven't realized that I use sarcasm alot, so whatever you didn't agree with, take the opposite of it, and that's what I really mean.
we wouldn't be able to sign anybody for the same amount as what we are currently paying Raif
so the talent or pervieced talent that we could attain in theory by letting Raif’s contract expire and looking to free-agency to replace his roster spot is greatly diminished. The dominant idea floating around right now, is that to maximize the leval of talent that we can aquire with Raifs expiring contract, we would need to make a trade before the dead line, else his value is reduced to what we have left under the cap next year, and a little cash refund to the riches owner in all the NBA
Man, we should forfeit before roy’s hammy explodes, knocking him into LMA’s ear who loses his balance and hits Greg’s knee… - HurraKane212
http://www.nba.com/news/miles_10_080919.html
PERFECT!
The comparison is nearly without fault.
In Catan, you have resources; inevitably the resources are disproportionately owned.
You have two options:
1. You can wait for your resources develop into something useable; sometimes hurting yourself in the long arduous sitting-around hoping certain needs will get met, or
2. You Trade your excess resources for resources that you are lacking. The inevitability is that the other players won’t take a bunch of sheep from you for chips that are universally useful, even if they might get some nominal advantage by having a grip of sheep. The opponent is going to want something that they can use; inevitably to your detriment. Sometimes the true value of a trade is only revealed very late in the game.
I heart taxes.
So the question then is...
does KP have wood for sheep?
by vaderlikescheese on Jan 30, 2009 8:24 PM PST up reply actions
KP can go Woody on ya!
Just sayin’ 
Elizabeth had a partner and he had a rap from the cops, Him and Lenny Suckerpunch were just out Tooling around
by Lizzy Lowblow on Jan 30, 2009 10:47 PM PST up reply actions
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