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‘Zers interested in Salmons

 

http://blog.oregonlive.com/blazers/2009/01/rumor_salmons_for_lafrentz_and.html

 Interesting rumor floating around Salmons.  Haven’t seen him play much – he is in the midst of a career year putting up good numbers this year on a bad team.  Looking at this year’s stats, he certainly would fit in well with the Blazers.

 According to Hollinger’s scouting report, Salmons is an athletic, versatile 6’7” wing player who can defend multiple positions well and is a slasher offensively. 

 From what I’ve seen from his stats, his offensive game has flourished this year.  He gets to the line at a good clip and his shooting a respectable 48% from the field and 42% from three-point range.  In comparison to another wing player the Blazers had strong interest in at one point, Danny Granger is shooting 44% from the field and 40% from three-point range, although he gets to the line at a better clip.  Salmons also turns the ball over a lesser rate than Granger.

With regards to fitting in with the Blazers, he has the ability to start right away at the SF position.  He is a better all around player right now at the 3 spot compared to Webster, Batum, or Outlaw.  More polished offensively (slasher with the ability to hit the 3 ball) and with his defensive prowess, he would be give the Blazers a nice lift.  He gives the Blazers another athlete along with Roy and Batum that we could throw at Kobe and Manu.  At the end of games when we need a defensive stop, we could slide Roy to PG, and put Batum and Salmons in the game to defend the wings.  And offensively, outside of Roy and the little used Bayless, he is the only player that will consistently take it to the hole and draw contact.

Sounds good so far…

 Now comes the negative side. 

-Playing time for Webster and Batum will be tough, and I certainly would like to see these guys get more experience

-His numbers suggest that he is having a big year on a bad team, which brings about questions of how truly effective he would be on a good team with other good players around him (ala Donyell Marshall with the Warriors– somebody has to score points and put up stats on a bad team right?).  In all fairness, his percentages are pretty good offensively, so this may not be a big issue.

-While he has improved year over year throughout his career which is good to see, he has not played at a consistently high level for very long.

The big question is if he is a good cultural fit.  From Chad Ford of ESPN:

“Despite his talent, he's never really been known as a chemistry guy in either Philadelphia or Sacramento. His versatility, defense and ability to handle the ball have attracted a number of suitors. But buyers beware -- this guy has to start. Take him out of the starting lineup, and his numbers drop and his pouting increases.”

Portland has come such a long ways from a cultural and chemistry standpoint, and with such a young team starting to gel together, I think it would be hard to justify bringing over a talented player if there is any truth to Chad Ford’s report.

Sound off fans…yay or nay on John Salmons?

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Two things:

1. “Zers” is special, as in special olympics…

2. There is no way that Salmons is for sale for a $6M insurance policy and a low first round draft choice.

This is not a valid rumor. It’s a humor rumor. A Special humor rumor.

FAIL.

"Now with a non-provocative footer!"

by timbo on Jan 28, 2009 9:10 PM PST reply actions   3 recs

enough with the 'Zers backlash

people can use it if they want, no need to insult. It’s getting Bla….

would you like to start using that one?

I like whatever metric makes a Blazer look better.

by einman77 on Jan 28, 2009 10:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Never enough with the backlash... Electric shocks in the nose until the yapping stops...
According to a report via 1080 The Fan and the Sacramento Bee, the Blazers have offered a draft pick and Raef LaFrentz’s expiring contract for John Salmons.

Is this the same radio station that had another cretinous trade rumor about a week ago that had everybody in a tizzy? “It’s Paul Allen’s radio station so it must be true…” etc.?

"Now with a non-provocative footer!"

by timbo on Jan 28, 2009 10:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, no, that was 95.5 The Game, not 1080 The Fan, how silly of me!

They’re clearly playing a game of HORSEPUCKEY, which is sort of like the basketball game of horse, except it involves one radio station spreading horsecrap and then the other having to match it or get rung up with a letter…

Really, people, these pseudo-rumors are so clearly and obviously false that there should be nothing but scoffing and pointing and laughing at the fat farm animals that write the fiction and then breathlessly broadcast it as if true…

"Now with a non-provocative footer!"

by timbo on Jan 28, 2009 10:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No way. They are all real.

Didn’t you hear that Sergio was traded for Nate Robinson?

by Nick Van Excellent on Jan 28, 2009 10:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Is it really that hard to type

Blazers? Zers is just so dumb, and lazy, it dosen’t even sound cool. This post should be deleted just for the title.

by ggassen85 on Jan 28, 2009 10:42 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Alright, enough of this stuff

If you guys are going to reply to a post, say something meaningful about the post. Leave your personal preferences about how the name is spelled out of it. Unless, of course, he spells it “Lakers”.

—Dave

by Dave on Jan 28, 2009 11:38 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

How about Lazers

Can we call the team Lazers?

"Only dunk and go to the defense." Rudy Fernandez

by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 28, 2009 11:55 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I believe

that’s a Roller Derby team somewhere.

—Dave

by Dave on Jan 29, 2009 12:05 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Why do I...

….Feel a childish urge to type the dreaded letters and then just hold down “copy”?

I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.

by haildablazer on Jan 29, 2009 1:19 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Runor sez it's Salmons for RLEC and a draft pick.

I’m surprised that he makes close enough to Raef money for that to be it.
I’ll take that at face value and not bother looking up his contract,
but if that salary (near-)match ain’t so, there’d have to be another King as a throw-in.

Not a totally bad acquisition if it clears the way for another trade,
a small foward (probaby Trout) and a point guard for a better point guard.
But with the RLEC used up, I don’t see that scenario fetching us
an adequate enough point to make the whole shebang worth it.

And that’s IF Salmons’ chemistry risk isn’t an issue, which it certainly is.
(To be fair, Artest has been trouble-free in Houston, so these
chemistry-risk acquisitions can turn out not to cause problems;
in these deals, i guess sometimes you get a Z-bo, sometimes a Rodman.)
Pass.

Do it! Do it! Do it 'til you're satisfied!

by QualityPie on Jan 28, 2009 9:34 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Old news ...

http://www.blazersedge.com/2009/1/27/737676/rlec-for-salmons

You gotta be a little quicker on the interwebs with news like this. Not only do we all know this already, but Benny already shot it down with his “reliable” source. And by the way, Ben, your mom hollering down to the basement that these rumors aren’t true isn’t a reliable source, okay?

"These are dreams that we have." --Rudolfo Fernandez

by bfan on Jan 28, 2009 9:41 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I don't think that's what his mom is hollering about

… it might be something to do with not putting the toilet seat down, though.

by Bust a Bucket on Jan 28, 2009 9:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

i got plenty sources on this one. forget about it.

by Ben. on Jan 28, 2009 10:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Dave's mom hollered to him, too?

When I rule the world, everyone will know how to use Excel.

by jscot on Jan 29, 2009 4:00 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

good call Bfan

I didn’t scroll far enough to see this has already been posted.

by VegasNed on Jan 28, 2009 9:45 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I hope this isn't true.

Salmons has an offensive rebound rate of 2.3, a defensive rebound rate of 10.3 for a total rebound rate of 6.3%. He rebounds only slightly better than our PGs. Seriously, that’s horrible.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/salmojo01.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/POR/2009.htm

by wepto on Jan 28, 2009 10:34 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

The rumor is complete crap, but speaking in the abstract, Salmons is TERRIFIC.

18.7 ppg, 4.0 rpg, shooting close to 48%…

Sure, 19 point guys can be had for $6M and a low first round draft pick. Every day… They’re GIVING ’em away…

"Now with a non-provocative footer!"

by timbo on Jan 28, 2009 10:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It would be a salary dump

We would take back a bad contract, too.

People do these salary dumps sometimes. Not that I think this one has legs, but weird things happen in the NBA. See Camby, Marcus.

When I rule the world, everyone will know how to use Excel.

by jscot on Jan 29, 2009 4:02 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

my wish list..........

Caron Butler

Gerald Wallace (out for a WHILE now)

Luol Deng

Mike Miller (if we can get him for cheap)

You guys are gonna scof at Mike Miller, hear me out…………He has had a down year, yes but he is a great shooter and a borderline defender. He is young and his contract isnt awfull. He may be able to be had on the cheap, but probly not. Caron Butler would be my ideal pick of the list personally.

by blazerbeliever97504 on Jan 28, 2009 11:14 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Miller on the cheap

wouldn’t be a bad acquisition at all. As long as his game is still there (I trust KP to determine that) his shooting ability would be a big help. A lot of what happens at SF depends on Martell’s rehab, and I like what Nic/Trout bring, so this is one of those situations where the Blazers can name their price and if it works, great, if it doesn’t it’s still good.

Jerryd Bayless = Marlo Stanfield
- Early stage Marlo at this point, but Bayless is the emotionless killer new to the game. He will take over, and there will be causalties – it’s just a matter of time.

by blazeraddict on Jan 28, 2009 11:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm down with the following trade proposal.

FROM MINNESOTA & TO PORTLAND
SF Mike Miller ($9,028,575)
C Calvin Booth ($1,319,651)

FROM PORTLAND & TO MINNESOTA
C Raef LaFrentz ($12,722,500)
PF Shavlik Randolph ($797,581)

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=775584542810&teams=22221616&te=&cash=

Other than his mediocre perimeter defense, Mike Miller is an all-around complete player. Miller has a history of shooting lights out from beyond the arc, can effectively handle the ball and dish the rock, and is able to crash the boards exceptionally well for a wing player. I, moreover, would prefer it if Portland acquired Miller instead of John Salmons — especially since the latter would reportedly come at the cost a future first-round draft pick, as well as the absorption of Kenny Thomas’ overpriced contract — although Gerald Wallace would’ve been my first choice prior to his most recent injury.

by AK1984 on Jan 28, 2009 11:55 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

What do you make of Miller's year with Minny?

He has been pretty dang bad this season.

I wonder if it’s just the trade, doesn’t like the team, or maybe injuries…

Miller is fine, but if we make a move it has to be for more defense (which I’m sure you’d agree with).

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Jan 29, 2009 4:21 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Mike Miller

= dude look like a lady (enter Aerosmith riff)

by blaze jose' on Jan 29, 2009 11:29 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That would be a good move for Portland

Jerryd Bayless = Marlo Stanfield
- Early stage Marlo at this point, but Bayless is the emotionless killer new to the game. He will take over, and there will be causalties – it’s just a matter of time.

by blazeraddict on Jan 29, 2009 8:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I also did a fanshot on this yesterday as official Kings ambassador.

Koponen - PG of the future. For Italy, that is. Book it.

by Blazerholic on Jan 28, 2009 11:23 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

If anyone deserves 4 or 5 fanposts/shots

It is an unverified, randomly tossed out, John Salmons trade rumor.

Hell, just for the honor of maybe getting Kenny Thomas’ contract, we need a few more posts about this issue!

(I don’t really care about the extra fanposts as I am not the fanpost police, but I think it’s funny).

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Jan 29, 2009 4:26 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't get the whole Gerald Wallace lovefest

I mean would he really fit in Portland? I think we need to stop thinking about getting a player that has much impact offensively (unless its to spread the floor) at the 4

by SamGoody on Jan 29, 2009 12:38 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

At the SF, you mean?

The Wallace love is based on his great defensive ability, his thieving abilities, his shot blocking, and his ability to get out and run the floor with the best of them, and create his own shot in a halfcourt set.

He wouldn’t play PF for us, except in special cases, he’d normally be our starting SF.

If healthy (which again is a question for him, unfortunately), he’d be awesome for us. His only drawback is a non-amazing 3 point shot, but he CAN hit it, and has to be defended for it.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Jan 29, 2009 4:23 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Agree.

Plus his fantastic rebounding from the SF position would help us out too.

My favorite teams are the Blazers and any team that is playing the Lakers.

by OCBlazerFan1 on Jan 29, 2009 1:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

if travis outlaw would use his length and athleticism to consistently crash the boards, play wicked on help defense and good straight d, and basically be the go-to-the-ball guy and increase his slashing/off.rebputback/in the paint points-to-long jump shot ratio.. we would already have gerald wallace..

oh yea.. he’d also need to put out another 30 or so lbs on muscle and broadness and increase his knack of having concussions

"Slum dunk? You just go to the rim, and crush.. crush the ball in the rim."
- Nic Batum

by idoltime on Jan 29, 2009 7:12 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Guess what Yahoo called them . . .

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/recap?gid=2009012822

The Portland Trail Balzers never gave the leg-weary and injury-depleted Charlotte Bobcats a chance to find a groove.

Sticking up for Travis Outlaw since 2008.

by Kaboomm on Jan 29, 2009 12:55 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

kind of funny

clearly a typing transposition, but you have to like the unintentional play on the word “Ballers”

Rule #1 of nitpicking is to get it right.

by douglast on Jan 29, 2009 12:57 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

"Aldridge leads Blazers past Bobcats"

Big, Bold, 30 point font. Idiots.

"Only dunk and go to the defense." Rudy Fernandez

by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 29, 2009 12:57 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Whoops

They got that one right. My bad. But still. Idiots.

"Only dunk and go to the defense." Rudy Fernandez

by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 29, 2009 12:59 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

LOL

Wow. Classic.

I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.

by haildablazer on Jan 29, 2009 1:23 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

rec

If anything should ever go green….

When I rule the world, everyone will know how to use Excel.

by jscot on Jan 29, 2009 4:05 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

In other news

The Portland Trailblazers traded Zach Randolph to the New York Knicks

by TimG on Jan 29, 2009 10:05 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

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