1/29/09 Junk: Sergio or JayBay edition
by rmcdougall on Jan 28, 2009 9:04 PM PST
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I'm posting this on Eastern time because I want to make sure to ask you all a question:
If you could only keep Sergio Rodriguez or Jerryd Bayless going into next season, which would you keep? More importantly, why?
To guide your meditation, here are some points to consider:
- Lifespan of Steve Blake as a Trailblazer
- Compatibility with Brandon Roy as a potential starter
- Usefulness as a flexible combo guard
- Basic skills: passing, shooting, ball-handling, defense
I won't color your responses with my own opinion, but I will say this: even if you feel your choice is obvious, please explain why you feel that way. Explain as if to a layman, define your terms and premises.
Thanks so much, and a happy National Puzzle Day to all!
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Dude
The answer is simple. It’s both. They are the dynamic duo. They bring different skills to the table. And we need them both. Blakey is the odd man out, in the big picture. It may take a year or two, but it will hAPPEN.
COMCAST SUCKS!!
by shamman on Jan 28, 2009 9:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I don't disagree that both are valuable
They have different benefits, each is the yin to the other’s yang. Furthermore, contract-wise, it doesn’t really make sense that we’d ever have to part with either next year. This is purely hypothetical.
But, the questions stands: IF you had to pick one, which? and why?
by rmcdougall on Jan 28, 2009 9:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
that both can be useful…i dunno about blake being the odd man out, but hopefully bayless and sergio can grow and lessen blakes role in the future.
The most hated Blazer is like the least hottest supermodel - Sabonis4Ever
by Philthyanimal on Jan 29, 2009 12:23 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Blake's Injury
has been a positive. Both have proven they fit in with the blazers. The 5 guard combo over the next 5 years will be plain disgusting. Blake will be the vet hanging around and I’m sure he’ll be more than happy to play less minutes, take less beating and take more rings on this team.
roy and bayless
rudy and sergio….with blake as insurance/back up……I love this team
by keepfryealive on Jan 29, 2009 2:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Look at the Plus/Minus from tonight's game
by Bust a Bucket on Jan 28, 2009 9:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Definitely not a telling stat on all nights
I am a HUGE Bayless fan, but there are some nights where Sergio is straight ballin…droppin’ wicked dimes that Bayless could only dream of at this point.
My money is on Bayless for the future. His work ethic alone will make him a baller to be reckoned with. But that shouldn’t take away from the good things Sergio does.
If you agree with me: Good, I like being agreeable.
If you [think you] don't agree with me: You really do agree with me. You just haven't realized that I use sarcasm alot, so whatever you didn't agree with, take the opposite of it, and that's what I really mean.
by prezofdeath on Jan 28, 2009 10:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
its funny
but i talked with a guy that works with the Blazers and his story is that Sergio has been working just as hard a Bayless. I have no idea if thats true or not, but I’m a fan nontheless. Sergio can win three out of four nights, and get dropped for the one night he duznt play as well as Bayless. lolol
Man, we should forfeit before roy’s hammy explodes, knocking him into LMA’s ear who loses his balance and hits Greg’s knee… - HurraKane212
http://www.nba.com/news/miles_10_080919.html
by maid tu rek on Jan 29, 2009 12:15 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
hmm, could be true I guess
It just seems like the media guys tend to spout Bayless as a guy who lives at the gym, and’ll probably put in 4 hours a day at the gym over the all star break, while we know for a fact that Sergio is taking a mini vacation.
If you agree with me: Good, I like being agreeable.
If you [think you] don't agree with me: You really do agree with me. You just haven't realized that I use sarcasm alot, so whatever you didn't agree with, take the opposite of it, and that's what I really mean.
by prezofdeath on Jan 29, 2009 9:54 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Look at the whole season...
Individual Player Floor Time statistics
Player Min +/- Off Def Net48 W L Win%
Rodriguez 32% +20 91.3 89.9 +1.4 16 24 40.0
Bayless 13% -26 91.7 96.3 -4.6 7 12 36.8
You can’t just take one game and say “’Nough said.” Especially, when they’re two players that have opposite mentalities. Rodriguez succeeds in running the team’s offense and distributing… Bayless is better when the opponent is allowing dribble penetration… Yin and yang… Black and white (oh the irony!)… Peas and Carrots… Dove Chocolate Bar and Snickers Ice Cream Bar…
I will say that Sergio does have an excellent work ethic, even though he hasn’t quite gotten the publicity of the ‘maniacal’ Bayless. Over the last two seasons, Sergio would always be one of the first guys on the floor and one of the last to leave before games, and Bill Bayno and ‘Surge’ would spend hours shooting jumpers… Unfortunately, it hasn’t paid off because I don’t think he’s a naturally confident and/or gifted shooter. He’s going to have to work at it (a la Jason Kidd, who used to be a horrible shooter and is now above average)…
Bayless needs to lose the tunnel vision. Is that the right word for it? Maybe it’s more like the Predator sensory goggles that only see blood… If he’s going to be a big part of this team, he’s going to have to learn to spread the love around and run the team’s offense without going into seek and destroy mode…
"Now, you take a bobcat or a Jayhawk. You know they'll run if you give 'em the chance. But when one don't run, why, you shoot him and shoot him quick. Raef's my dog, Pa. I've gotta do what's right..." Old Yeller (1957)
by RoyGoesTheDynamite on Jan 29, 2009 10:07 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree completely
I’m innocent I tell you! It was B.A.B. who said “nuff said”
I think each has his merits, and I’m just happy to kick back and watch Bayless eat Sergio for lunch the two develop their games and see what happens.
If you agree with me: Good, I like being agreeable.
If you [think you] don't agree with me: You really do agree with me. You just haven't realized that I use sarcasm alot, so whatever you didn't agree with, take the opposite of it, and that's what I really mean.
by prezofdeath on Jan 29, 2009 1:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
hey, don't slander me Josh
I said “nuff said” with a freaking question mark… “?”
I wasn’t saying it… I was asking if you all thought it was true… then you claim I said. Trying to take things out of context even though it’s 8 inches up your computer monitor and to try to claim that you are “innocent I tell you” and imply that I am guilty.
Nice try, too bad, so sad….
by Bust a Bucket on Jan 29, 2009 6:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
lol my bad
If you agree with me: Good, I like being agreeable.
If you [think you] don't agree with me: You really do agree with me. You just haven't realized that I use sarcasm alot, so whatever you didn't agree with, take the opposite of it, and that's what I really mean.
by prezofdeath on Jan 30, 2009 5:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's because the media
wants to have sex with Bayless.
by Zaig on Jan 29, 2009 1:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
me too pal
me too
hehe
I'm afraid Chiekh Samb's kids are going to be born ducking
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jan 29, 2009 2:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not prude
It’s just that his arms are too short to… uh, never mind.
by EngineerScotty on Jan 30, 2009 1:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
do we really??
…we know for a fact that Sergio is taking a mini vacation.
Man, we should forfeit before roy’s hammy explodes, knocking him into LMA’s ear who loses his balance and hits Greg’s knee… - HurraKane212
http://www.nba.com/news/miles_10_080919.html
by maid tu rek on Jan 29, 2009 2:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And doing what?
Maybe he is actually working on his game during the vacation instead of livin’ it up in Vegas?
by Zaig on Jan 29, 2009 4:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He's travelling with his girlfriend
We do know, for a fact, he is taking a mini vacation.
I don’t mind it, he deserves it, the season is tough. He isn’t helping Rudy out though, to be with his girl.
Morty
by Mortimer on Jan 29, 2009 4:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ohyeah, thats right.
I forgot about his vacation, and was simply questioning the certainty of his “vacation”. thanks for clearing that up for me.
Man, we should forfeit before roy’s hammy explodes, knocking him into LMA’s ear who loses his balance and hits Greg’s knee… - HurraKane212
http://www.nba.com/news/miles_10_080919.html
by maid tu rek on Jan 29, 2009 8:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Mebe his girl
Balls like MJ and is gonna teach him some new moves?
Orrrr… it could be a new form of conditioning training. Wink wink.
by Zaig on Jan 30, 2009 11:17 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
that stat never says enough
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Jan 28, 2009 10:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I like the way this platoon is working so far, because it seems like one or the other is at least serviceable every night. I would probably keep Bayless, because his upside is higher, and I think his skills will serve as a better change-of-pace to Blake.
My HDTV is a torrented game that I can watch lag-free :(
Let LaMarcus keep the headband!
by inroywetrust on Jan 28, 2009 9:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I would use Paul Allen's billions
to create a hybrid that combines the best parts of Jerryd’s game with the best parts of Sergio’s game. Serryd Bayguez would be a sure fire All-Star. BEdgers would give him an awesome nickname like The Predalien
I call this a win-win-win solution.
by tingeyga on Jan 28, 2009 9:38 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Right now, Jay-Bay
although I would caution against a one-game +/-.
Means naught.
Oh, and rec this up, guys—even if it isn’t quite midnight here in the Pacifist Northwest.
by EngineerScotty on Jan 28, 2009 9:41 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
While I was extremely hard on Sergio in the Bobcat game
I can’t say Bayless gives me much confidence either. Bayless plays much better perimeter defense, but his PG skills are shockingly worse than I thought. He tends to dribble high and dribble inefficiently, meaning, Bayless will take extra dribbles without much purpose. The sign of a good PG starts with how effective they are with their dribbles. Its a fundamental skill that Bayless lacks. It shows when he tries to play the pick and roll. He often doesn’t set his man up with the dribble and when he turns the corner, he’s usually out of control.
Bayless could possibly learn these skills, but combining this with his lack of court vision and iffy on-the-fly decision making, its hard for me to say Bayless will be a PG in the future. Yes, I know he’s a rookie. He’ll probably improve aspects of his game. I’m just in the camp that believes PG playmaking abilities are innate within the player once they enter the NBA. From the games I’ve seen, Bayless hasn’t convinced me he has the innate skills to be a PG. Hopefully he’ll prove me wrong.
So I guess I’m stuck with Steve Blake.
BINGO, BANGO, BONGO
by blzrfan on Jan 28, 2009 9:47 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
This seams more like a Fanpost topic then a OT junk drawer topic
and personally, I like the idea of developing them both, Blake is not forever, and both are young and have more potential to be gamechangers.
Man, we should forfeit before roy’s hammy explodes, knocking him into LMA’s ear who loses his balance and hits Greg’s knee… - HurraKane212
http://www.nba.com/news/miles_10_080919.html
by maid tu rek on Jan 28, 2009 9:47 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I agree
I’d rather talk about politics, war or suicide… not the age-old Sergio/Jerryd crap….
We can go ‘round and ’round with this debate and it won’t matter.
So how about Sam Adams not resigning? Any thoughts?
by Bust a Bucket on Jan 28, 2009 9:55 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
How about that Terry Schiavo!
The little brother of Olden Polynice went to college with me. And no, he did not dress like a police officer.
by TheTinfoil on Jan 28, 2009 9:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Bingo! Yahtzee! We have a winner...
So, do you pull the plug, or keep feeding her through a tube?
To add a twist: What if she has a large life insurance policy? Does that change your decision?
by Bust a Bucket on Jan 28, 2009 10:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Personally, I leave her and her family alone.
And I work in insurance, so..
I have found that a Terry Schiavo reference is a great way to mess up a dinner conversation.
The little brother of Olden Polynice went to college with me. And no, he did not dress like a police officer.
by TheTinfoil on Jan 28, 2009 10:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
he's basically spit in the face of the gay community, and everyone else
By waiting until after being elected to come clean about his minor-doodling.
Portland don’t hate gays, but they loathe lying douches.
Impeach the Beer Dude, supplant him with Bust a Bucket!
Bust a Bucket for Mayor!
Reactivate Shavlik Randolph
by appel82 on Jan 28, 2009 10:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hells bells!
Now we’re talking!
This is a good example of a freaking Junk Drawer for all you kids out there!
BlazersEdge is taking over City Hall, baby!
by Bust a Bucket on Jan 28, 2009 10:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Dave has long said
No politics. This is not a ‘good example of a freaking junk drawer’.
"Only dunk and go to the defense." Rudy Fernandez
by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 28, 2009 10:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
it's sort of like how J-walking is illegal
we talk politics every day… come on now…
by Bust a Bucket on Jan 28, 2009 10:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Now you are censoring?
What, is the fairness doctrine back?
You are undermining America! That is unpatriotic! You’ll never take my guns!!! AHHHH!!!!
by TimG on Jan 28, 2009 10:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
lol, politics, war or suicide, so positive...
Just watch the News.
We could talk about suicide bombers, and cover all three topics at once…
by TimG on Jan 28, 2009 10:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
good start
now work in a gay aspect, and top it off with gas prices…. you’re so close…
by Bust a Bucket on Jan 28, 2009 10:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess I'll take this opportunity to tell about meeting Greg last night.
I was at a bar with a few friends, ready to leave when my friend Zach says he overheard one of the bartenders talking about a blazer here. I was intrigued and immediately had to know if it was true and who. I went into the main room and scanned it thoroughly, expecting to see a huge person somewhere. I didn’t. I took a closer look, and there was Greg, sitting in the corner looking right at me, obviously knowing I was looking for him and obviously uncomfortable. He had a baggy hoody on with the hood up trying to blend in, hunched so far down in his chair he looked as tall ( or short ) as the people around him. He had a small entourage of 3 pretty normal looking friends without diamond encrusted necklaces with him.
So I had to say hi and be able to say I met Greg. I walked over and he looked right at me and looked a little uncomfortably ( I don’t think he’s fully used to being a full blown celebrity ). I said " What’s up Greg?" He replied “What’s up man?” a little sullenly and put his fist out to pound mine. I pounded it and could not believe just how big his fist was. I have big hands. I can palm a basketball, and his fist completely surrounded mine. Huge. Then I said “Great game last night. You owned the clips.” Then he said with a big smile " Thanks man", nodded his head at me, and I walked away.
Short but sweet. I thought about buying him a drink as he just turned 21, but could tell he didn’t really want to be bothered. Not a big deal but exciting for me nonetheless, as I have devoted an unhealthy amount of thought into the man.
by dario argento on Jan 28, 2009 10:35 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Now that's one heartwarming story
very nice… love it!
by Bust a Bucket on Jan 28, 2009 10:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
also like the way you were able to say Hi
but also leave him alone by walking away quickly… very cool
by Bust a Bucket on Jan 28, 2009 10:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
awsome
you helped to make him more accessable by showing that fans can be cool and respectful
Man, we should forfeit before roy’s hammy explodes, knocking him into LMA’s ear who loses his balance and hits Greg’s knee… - HurraKane212
http://www.nba.com/news/miles_10_080919.html
by maid tu rek on Jan 28, 2009 11:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm waiting to hear from the fan
who pulled up a chair next to Greg, took-over the conversation, asked him a bunch of stupid and embarrassing questions, yelled to everyone in the bar, “LOOK, IT’S GREG ODEN!” and hounded Greg until he left.
by MiledAnimal on Jan 29, 2009 10:21 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
that fan will be just baraly smart enough to not tell anybody about it
Man, we should forfeit before roy’s hammy explodes, knocking him into LMA’s ear who loses his balance and hits Greg’s knee… - HurraKane212
http://www.nba.com/news/miles_10_080919.html
by maid tu rek on Jan 29, 2009 3:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I almost injured Greg Oden!
Was at the bowling alley last year (during his gimp phase) and I was at the counter paying. I put my bowling bag down, paid, and turned around. Oden was towering over me behind me in line. If I’d a turned around with my bowling bag I’d a proly hit him right in the knee! Never again would I have been allowed to show my face in public in Portland.
by Zaig on Jan 29, 2009 4:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt he would have noticed
your eight-pound bowling ball hitting his leg.
by MiledAnimal on Jan 30, 2009 12:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He's got 8lbs dangly things
Hitting the inside of his legs all day anyways.
Morty
by Mortimer on Jan 30, 2009 12:58 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
At that point
The guy could barely walk, he didn’t bowl, and my bag is closer to 36 pounds. Obviously it’d take a fluke shot to reinjure his leg, but it’s possibly!
by Zaig on Jan 30, 2009 1:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Adams was right to screw the guy, and right to lie about it.
Screw who you want. And questions about it don’t deserve an honest answer.
by pualo on Jan 28, 2009 11:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
don't lie
just tell the reporter “none of your freaking business – what if I asked you the same question? Could we print the answer in the newspaper?”
Next time he plooks a minor, he’ll know better – Elgin
I get what I deserve. I deserve what I get. I have it so I deserve it. I deserve
it for I have it. I get what I deserve. What I deserve - what I deserve what
I get. I have it so I deserve. - Gentle Giant
by 22baylor on Jan 29, 2009 10:51 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You can't do that.
Because people will interpret it as a yes. You have to lie in that situation.
by pualo on Jan 29, 2009 4:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
easy
“I won’t color your responses with my own opinion” i just had to kinda laugh at that. i mean im as big a bayless fan as you can find… but you did use your opinion in the points alone.
Compatibility with Brandon Roy as a potential starter (everyone knows how much roy thinks of bayless and how good he is not to mention he’s the type of player that fits at point along with roy)
Usefulness as a flexible combo guard (this was the dead giveaway though, i mean… bayless is a “combo guard” sergio is a pure point. not a scorer)
by Obsidian on Jan 28, 2009 10:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Rex is a point guard. Sergio i a point guard. There is no such thing as a "pure" point guard...
Now that Terry Schiavo, SHE could really pass. Pity about the way her career ended so soon…
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
by timbo on Jan 28, 2009 10:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I spelled IS phonetically there..
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
by timbo on Jan 28, 2009 10:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
go eat some 'za
while your watch the ’zers beat za dr. ’katz.
Don't Redeactivate Shavlik Randolph
by appel82 on Jan 28, 2009 10:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Bayless
But then what is SergioFTW going to do?
by TimG on Jan 28, 2009 10:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
he'll change his screenname to WTF?Sergio?
Consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds.
-Ralph Waldo Emerson
by MT Suit on Jan 29, 2009 10:43 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Rec!
Or SergioWTF
There is a programmers website called the Daily WTF, in which hideous examples of poorly written computer code are published and ridiculed. A while back, the folks that run the site changed the name to Worse Than Failure, apparently deciding they disliked the other expansion of that particular acronym… a decision that was decidedly unpopular. After about 10 months of complaints, they changed it back to Daily WTF, leaving it ambiguous just WTF “WTF” stands for.
by EngineerScotty on Jan 29, 2009 11:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Awsome sight, funny stories
Man, we should forfeit before roy’s hammy explodes, knocking him into LMA’s ear who loses his balance and hits Greg’s knee… - HurraKane212
http://www.nba.com/news/miles_10_080919.html
by maid tu rek on Jan 29, 2009 2:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sergio
"Only dunk and go to the defense." Rudy Fernandez
by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 28, 2009 10:28 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
of course,
a Sabas fan would vote for the Euro and not the African-American
by Bust a Bucket on Jan 28, 2009 10:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
RACIST
I suppose you want to trade Roy/Aldridge/Oden for Nash/Dirk/Love.
by Zaig on Jan 29, 2009 1:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
you're talking to the Sabas homer?
cause I would rather not care about the color of one’s skin… apparently you’re the racist here by wanting to trade those three for the other three… you make me want to puke.
by Bust a Bucket on Jan 29, 2009 6:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Reading is fun
You should try it sometime.
by Zaig on Jan 30, 2009 11:19 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Neither
Sergio may never develop a consistent shot or be able to finish at the hoop. That alone will cripple us, notwithstanding his other faults.
Bayless has HORRIBLE court vision. He misses people on cuts, he misses people on breaks. He throws poor entry passes and, rattle your chains ghost of Jarret Jack, is wired to jump pass. Maybe he can learn to distribute the ball. I don’t know.
I also noted how poorly he did against pressure tonight. Granted, Charlotte did a nice job of trapping, but it seemed to throw Bayless way off. He could not get us into our offense.
So I’m not in love with either one right now.
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Jan 28, 2009 10:51 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Wow
Bayless has HORRIBLE court vision. . . . . he misses people on breaks
I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you were using the restroom when Bayless found Rudy (who found Aldridge) on that nifty fast break this evening. He actually seemed to push the fast break better than Sergio. I’ll concede that in the half court set he doesn’t appear to have as good of court vision as Sergio.
by Bust a Bucket on Jan 28, 2009 11:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You are right - he hit Rudy on that one
I have burned into my brain pan two other times where Aldridge was wide open cutting to the hoop, arm raised, not a Bobcat around, and Bayless had his head lowered, looking to drive into the pack. Other than his successful drive at the end of the quarter, I can’t think of another successful assault at the hoop. I’ll go back and look again, but my memory is of pretty frantic play.
I don’t hate him – I just see his team standing around waiting for him to drive when he has the ball. It reminds me of watching Iverson and four other guys in the same uniform play. He can, and probably will, become a better ball handler, which needs to happen. He will get more comfortable with his team, as he gets more time – he’s only played in a handful of games, after all. I just don’t really like the tendencies I see, which remind me more of Jarret Jack, good and bad.
I only go the bathroom between quarters
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Jan 29, 2009 12:06 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I know the two times you mention Honka
Everybody in the building except Bayless saw LmA wide open.
"Only dunk and go to the defense." Rudy Fernandez
by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 29, 2009 12:13 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
he did miss LMA
on the break. lma was cutting to the rim for an alley oop but bayless’ head was down. bayless is great at what he does…but vision isn’t one of them.
The most hated Blazer is like the least hottest supermodel - Sabonis4Ever
by Philthyanimal on Jan 29, 2009 12:28 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He's a college sophomore playing in the NBA, for goodness sake... One thing I can guarantee is that he's gonna get better...
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
by timbo on Jan 29, 2009 7:45 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
He’ll get better at what he can do. I hope he can do the things the Blazers need him to do.
But we should certainly apply the Oden Principle here: give him time. And teach him how to make entry passes. And keep his head up and his dribble down on the break.
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Jan 29, 2009 9:21 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i dont like
how we draft players with a certain set of skills yet expect them to play a different style once they are on our team. Martell was drafted for his jumpshooting ability and athleticism…we want him to be a defensive stopper. Sergio has great vision and can create in an uptempo offense…we slow the pace down and expect him to hit 3s when he cant. Bayless was drafted for his defense and his ability to get to the hole…yet fans are wanting him to be a distributor.
That’s nice that we want them to be multidimensional…but I think we should let them focus on their strengths until they become consistent in that area before they move onto other things.
The most hated Blazer is like the least hottest supermodel - Sabonis4Ever
by Philthyanimal on Jan 29, 2009 9:53 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
i think it's cool that baybay and serg
enhance each others game by learning from one and another, and bayless gets excited for sergio going to the hole (c’mon on now kids grow up) even when he’s on the bench; and martell admits to learning a lot from batum. I think these young blazers’ humbleness and willingness to learn from each other is quite cool.
Don't Redeactivate Shavlik Randolph
by appel82 on Jan 29, 2009 10:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah he must have been in the restroom with Sam Adams
Consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds.
-Ralph Waldo Emerson
by MT Suit on Jan 29, 2009 10:44 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno
All I know is the Stephen Colbert just offered China a slightly used Oregon. Which made me sad that my home state was being sold by Stephen Colbert.
by usdblazerfan on Jan 28, 2009 11:50 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Why does Colbert hate us so?
It’s bad enough being called Washington’s Mexio, or California’s Canada—but Idaho’s Portugal?
No respect, I tell ya. None.
by EngineerScotty on Jan 29, 2009 10:40 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Cause that bear at the Oregon Zoo ripped up his book
"Only dunk and go to the defense." Rudy Fernandez
by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 29, 2009 6:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
My choice
What I want (long term): Bayless as the starter, Sergio as the backup
If I had to choose: Bayless. He’s already shown he can get to the rim at will, doesn’t matter how far you play off him, he will get there, and will either get a layup, a foul, or set up a teammate. On a team of jump shooters, this is a pretty valuable commodity. Defensively, he has the physical tools and demeanor to be a very good defender at the position. His jumper has looked better, and he can play well off the ball, which is essential if a PG is going to complement Brandon Roy. He’s also one of the most intense guys on the team – I know that’s not a quantifiable stat, but it’s fun to watch and you can tell he lives and breathes basketball. KP may have uncovered another Devin Harris/Tony Parker with Bayless.
Jerryd Bayless = Marlo Stanfield
- Early stage Marlo at this point, but Bayless is the emotionless killer new to the game. He will take over, and there will be causalties – it’s just a matter of time.
by blazeraddict on Jan 28, 2009 11:50 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
comparisons
How are Harris and Parker related? Harris plays pretty solid d…parker doesnt.
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by Philthyanimal on Jan 29, 2009 12:29 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking
along offensive lines (real quick shoot first PG who can fit into a team conept on offense).
Jerryd Bayless = Marlo Stanfield
- Early stage Marlo at this point, but Bayless is the emotionless killer new to the game. He will take over, and there will be causalties – it’s just a matter of time.
by blazeraddict on Jan 29, 2009 8:44 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree on the defensive end though
Jerryd Bayless = Marlo Stanfield
- Early stage Marlo at this point, but Bayless is the emotionless killer new to the game. He will take over, and there will be causalties – it’s just a matter of time.
by blazeraddict on Jan 29, 2009 8:44 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The Air Up There...
Bayless can get to the rim for sure, but it usually ends up in a layup, a foul or a turnover… It’s tough to say at this point, that he’ll find a teammate with any regularity…
The defensive end is where Bayless has potential, although, the grabbing and away-from-the-ball fouls need to decrease…
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by RoyGoesTheDynamite on Jan 29, 2009 10:28 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He's already a decent man defender
As a stupid dumb rookie. Martell was simply AWFUL as a rook at defending, now (or, last we saw) he was serviceable and sometimes even good at man defense.
Just like Batum, Bayless will get better as he gains experience as defense is definitely something that experience and veteran savvy is a key component. They got the physical tools and use them to get by for now, but once they really learn HOW to play NBA defense, they’ll be purty good.
I think you’re taking rookie transitional type stuff (Bayless’ court vision) and taking them as absolutes about his eventual skill set. He has obviously been trying to find teammates, is sometimes a moment slow, but as the recognition comes the passes will be coming faster.
He’s had some nice passes on the move though, and had some good assist numbers. He definitely looks a lot more comfortable than even I thought he’d look as the actual PG out there.
Tony Parker and Devin Harris, as super quick scoring guards, had similar problems early in their career. We hope Bayless can have the offense of a Parker (with dunks and better shooting early in his career), and the defense of a Harris, and he has the capabilities for both.
His ability to draw fouls, play decent defense (albiet with rookie mistakes that will certainly go away with time), and score are all good things. And his PGing is a work in progress that HAS had some good moments.
My main point is: he is far from a complete version of Bayless, just like Batum and Oden. They’re all prone to ticky tacky lame fouls, because rookies are dumb. They also try things on offense they shouldn’t, sometimes. Rookies are dumb and almost always get better in the right situation.
Since we can see Bayless is TRYING to find the open man, make the right pass, it’s a good sign.
We got two exciting backup PGs for now, and that’s pretty cool. I also like seeing Sergio try to take it to the hole, and if he keeps that up it’ll open his game up a lot more. Right now, Sergio needs others to hit their jumpers for him to be effective, and Bayless can be effective all on his own. When Sergio gets a flow going and is being the Sergio we love, it is a beautiful thing. It just relies on others to make happen, since he can’t get his own shot that he can make.
If Sergio ever, ever, ever gets some offense, he’d be a very dangerous offensive player.
Right now, as a rookie who is so dumb he is legally mentally disabled, Bayless’ playmaking is already much better than Sergio’s offense as a 3rd year player. His playmaking doesn’t have as far to go to be good enough, as Sergio’s offense does (if ya know what I mean).
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Jan 29, 2009 10:45 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Trade them both for a John Stockton/Magic Johnson/Pistol Pete Maravich type of point guard
≤ˆˆ≥
by tominhawaii on Jan 29, 2009 12:06 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
that would be Oscar Robertson
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by Honka Playboy on Jan 29, 2009 12:07 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
oh
well I’ll certainly take that. Make the trade. Just make sure it’s not actually Oscar. I’m thinking he might look a little dead out there.
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by ratbastird on Jan 29, 2009 9:22 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I love Pistol Pete Maraviches...
Please, no more Pistol Pete Morrisons
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by prezofdeath on Jan 29, 2009 1:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Its really funny how this question only gets posed
when Bayless has a good/great game, and Sergio has a sub par game.
Sergio has been better overall since Blake has been gone, and before that was better than Jerryd as well. That said, if its one or the other, it has to be Bayless because of his contract (4 more guaranteed seasons on it for cheap). He’s also the guy with the higher ceiling. My preference? Both. Blake can say goodbye after next season.
by as11osu on Jan 29, 2009 1:03 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
It's not a one or the other thing, but that implies Blake goes... I don't see how the 3 coexist...
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by timbo on Jan 29, 2009 7:47 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
In that case its Blake that goes
The other two are signed for next year.
by as11osu on Jan 29, 2009 10:37 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Bayless. As of right now, here is my report card on him
Better:
- Speed, lateral quickness and athleticism
- Driving to the rim for a dunk or layup
- Outside shooting, and bound to further improve since his shot has a better from
- On-ball defense
- Off-guard/shooting guard play
Neutral:
- Weak-side defense
- Working through picks
- Free throw shooting
Worse:
- Passing
- Ball handling
- Leading the team/offensive schemes
by Norsktroll on Jan 29, 2009 3:32 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Better?
Speed- yeah
Driving- Does it more often, percentage wise he’s no better at finishing and a lot worse at getting out fo trouble
Outside shooting- He will improve, but right now he shoots a lower % out there.
On Ball Defense- People still run by him just fine
Off-Guard play- Well obviously, but this is only useful in final 2 mins when Roy takes over.
by Zaig on Jan 29, 2009 1:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
if you factor in the foul shots he makes after drives to the basket
he’s much better at finishing than Sergio. His three point shooting is going up, his jumper has begun to fall, and his defense is much better than Sergio’s. Playing off the ball is valuable at all times of the game, as Rudy, Brandon, Steve, and Sergio are terrific ballhandlers.
by Cablinasian on Jan 29, 2009 1:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Bayless did a better job of staying in front of the Charl guards
last night…Sergio seemed particularly troubled by singletary but did put some good pressure on the ball directly…both are improving….Felton can be very challenging…
They will ebb & flow in what they can accomplish based on their particular “on-ness” on a given night, and on who they are matched up with…J-Bay did a good job staying with the Nets PG…forget his name …sposed to be good…whatever…
Rhetorical questions dragged out repeatedly just chafe the homers…so someone loves Sergio…whatever…Somebody loves Jerryd too I’m sure…
Jerryd in 3 years will be a top ten player in the league (ok maybe top 20). He has the ability to step onto the floor, blow by everyone and score at the age of 20 – - pretty rare. Work ethic off the chart.
Sergio is also working his butt off – - -I’ve witnessed it firsthand… He’s an excellent player and has a great future in the league – - If he can develop into a scoring threat, he will be a starter somewhere – - but without that, he has less intrinsic value..
We have a wonderful opportunity to have both of them available right now and I am enjoying the process
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by LetsBlaze on Jan 29, 2009 1:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
the primary difference in Jarryds favor is
Bayless can seaminlgy score at will, while Sergio, seamingly can rairly find the will to score.
Man, we should forfeit before roy’s hammy explodes, knocking him into LMA’s ear who loses his balance and hits Greg’s knee… - HurraKane212
http://www.nba.com/news/miles_10_080919.html
by maid tu rek on Jan 29, 2009 2:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
the primary difference that edges favors to Jarryd is that,
Bayless can seamingly score at will, While Sergio seamingly cant find the will to score.
Man, we should forfeit before roy’s hammy explodes, knocking him into LMA’s ear who loses his balance and hits Greg’s knee… - HurraKane212
http://www.nba.com/news/miles_10_080919.html
by maid tu rek on Jan 29, 2009 2:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Which is why I favor Sergio
We have plenty of scorers, I want a general!
by Zaig on Jan 29, 2009 4:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't disagree,
I prefer Serdio’s style to Jerryds ALL DAY LONG, but with out the ability to routinely make the three, (our offence seams to play itself out in a way that frequently finds the 1 and 3 WIDE open for the three ball) the defence no longer has to respect him, taking away passing lanes, and cutting off any penatration. It becomes easier for other teams to play their man when Sergio poses little to no scoring threaght. The way out offence seams to be designed requires our point gaurd to be able to hit the three, to keep the defence spreed. That seams to be the ballence. Oden, and to a lesser degree LA, are playing close or closer to the basker, Brandon is cutting, pennatrating, and hitting spot up jumpers, when hes not facilitating, Batum is hitting the three ball(or should be) and running a little curl route for a catch and shoot every once in a while, basicly so far, and for the most part, a distance shooter, and finaly Blake’s job has ben to make everything that the rest of the guys do easier be hitting the three ball when he finds himself blatenly and rudley open to make the defence pay. currently, Sergio forgive the apposing teams defence, and while Jerryd is taking it to the whole, he still needs to hit that three when he’s open, but becouse he can still get something out of the defencive breakdown that usually rewards Blake with a three, he gets more forgiveness, and i suppose rightfully so. If sergio could routinly his the three ball, with this team, the way the point gaurd is almoost allways open at the back half of plays, then sergio would be an allstar, but with out it, the way were designed, we just hurt his game, and he just hurts ours.
Man, we should forfeit before roy’s hammy explodes, knocking him into LMA’s ear who loses his balance and hits Greg’s knee… - HurraKane212
http://www.nba.com/news/miles_10_080919.html
by maid tu rek on Jan 30, 2009 8:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Top 20?
Bayless will no doubt be a good player in the future. I question whether he will be a top 50 players in 3 years. He won’t be top 20 and he won’t ever be top 10.
Think about how good top 20 is. That’s All-Star team good. Top 50 still means only 1.67 guys per team are better than you and I’d be fine if Bayless could even manage that.
by Zaig on Jan 29, 2009 4:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
well... I look for you in 3 years and we'll see
i stand by what i said
"..[Travis Outlaw] could jump, grab a rafter, eat a sandwich, and then dunk.."
tmundal 12/30/07
by LetsBlaze on Jan 29, 2009 5:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Bayless in ASG
If this happens in 3 years, I’ll eat your soiled underwear.
by Zaig on Jan 30, 2009 11:20 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So now you are rude annoying AND disgusting
what a pleasure
"..[Travis Outlaw] could jump, grab a rafter, eat a sandwich, and then dunk.."
tmundal 12/30/07
by LetsBlaze on Jan 30, 2009 6:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
y r u callling him rude and annoying???
discusting I understand. I actually really enjoy his perspective, and don’t find him annoying at all. lol, not that I matter much, but I don’t think your disapproval is universal amongst knowledgable fans.
Man, we should forfeit before roy’s hammy explodes, knocking him into LMA’s ear who loses his balance and hits Greg’s knee… - HurraKane212
http://www.nba.com/news/miles_10_080919.html
by maid tu rek on Jan 30, 2009 8:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
did not claim or desire for it to be universal...
just my experience thus far…I don’t need or deserved to be belittled for having an opinion…considering my 40 years of watching basketball, a doctorate in biomechanics, and my personal exposure and experience with this group, I try not to speak lightly…I wasn’t asking him or anyone to believe me…believe what you like, this isn’t a debate either…so I don’t need to score points
My only previous negative comment to Zaig was to not patronize me over my “not understanding” a statistics reference considering I have a bachelors degree in applied math that I got in 1986…
My lack of further comment comes from restraint and indifference…but lines are crossed…rude and annoying — stand by that too because that is how I felt reading through a long series of comments – - not seeking to convince anyone else to fell that way ….just to speak my feelings…
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by LetsBlaze on Jan 31, 2009 9:34 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
fair enough
…was to not patronize me over my "not understanding" a statistics reference considering I have a bachelors degree in applied math that I got in 1986…
I’m sorry, its not really my buiseness. You’ve allways seamed pretty lucid and congenial, so I was cought off gaurd. I also think I have only cought part of the convo, again my bad.
Sergio looked really good tonight, huh.
Man, we should forfeit before roy’s hammy explodes, knocking him into LMA’s ear who loses his balance and hits Greg’s knee… - HurraKane212
http://www.nba.com/news/miles_10_080919.html
by maid tu rek on Jan 31, 2009 10:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i like that
jerryd isnt bodying up on defense for the length of the court but is picking and choosing when to play tight defense and when to sag. throughout the preseason and the first few reg season games, he’d just play so tight that the ball handler would blow by him on occasions.
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by Philthyanimal on Jan 29, 2009 6:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Who is the 20 year old rookie?
The one who sometimes has played much better than the other one?
I say keep him.
All he is bad at, will get better. All he is good at, will become great.
I like Sergio, don’t wanna lose him. He could be dangerous if he ever got some kind of offense going. I didn’t think he played bad tonight, and everyone was turning the ball over.
Sergio, in his 3rd year, should be handily outplaying the 20 year old rookie who isn’t really a PG yet. That should be a decent indicator about which one to keep. Plus, add in compatibility with Roy, defense, athleticism, potential, and most are in favor of Bayless.
I’d prefer Blake as a backup over Sergio as well, since Blake is a lot better of a PG, and a consistent backup you can depend on (like Joel is for Oden) is a huge luxury. Having two random sporadic young PGs who can be great one night and look dumb the next isn’t always the best idea for a playoff team. You can trust Blake, to be Blake, 90% of the time.
The same stands if Sergio eventually wins the starting job over Bayless.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Jan 29, 2009 4:14 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I'm voting with Morty. That's always a good policy...
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
by timbo on Jan 29, 2009 7:48 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Morty-McCain 08
"Only dunk and go to the defense." Rudy Fernandez
by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 29, 2009 6:34 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Morty-Palin 2012
with the slogan: “Where the Devil and her lackey wear Prada Happens”
by Bust a Bucket on Jan 29, 2009 6:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm her lackey
But she’s the vice prez?
If she’s gonna steal my thunder, I’m dropping her from the ticket.
Mortimer ’12
by Mortimer on Jan 29, 2009 8:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I will run with ya
I will even dress as a woman….hell I could beat out Hillary (looks-wise) ….and get ya the chick vote
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by 92wastheyear on Jan 29, 2009 8:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
In Mortimer's Camp
I’m with Mortimer on this one. At 28, Blake gives us another 5-6 years of consistency – ala Pryzbilla. Whether Bayless or SG prove to be the better future complement we look for to play with Roy – Blake should stay. He’s more conisistent right now than Sergio or Bayless, and gives you some consistent offense – even if it’s off the bench. Like Pryz, Fernandez or Outlaw, he’ll always be better than the other teams 2nd team PG.
As far as Sergio or Bayless – I suspect Bayless may be a better long term fit for Roy than Sergio – but I’m not hung up on this observation. Sergio is more of a distributor, and less of a shooter. Roy often wants to be the distributor, which means you want the other guard to be a better shooter and finisher. In addition, you want the guard who plays with Roy to be a solid defender who can handle the other teams point while Roy takes the off-guard. If Bayless can become an average distributor, (not great nor even very good), is competent (not great) at bringing the ball up the court, but is better than Sergio in terms of defensing the other point, finishing at the rim, scoring from mid range and outside, he’ll probably be a better fit for Roy.
Sergio, already competent at bringing the ball up and better at distributing, to be that fit, needs to improve his offense and his defense. Bayless is in his first year, whereas Sergio is in his third. The only question is to consider where Bayless will be in his third year in comparison to where Sergio is today.
by Eben Calder on Jan 29, 2009 5:08 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Actually, the relevant comparison would be "Rex in his 3rd year vs. Sergio in his 5th"....
Look at it this way, Rex has logged approximately 6 full NBA games of court action so far in his career. Saying the jury is still out on him is a vast understatement… He just recently stopped passing the ball to referees… His turnover numbers are down and if he has a jumper, it should start falling pretty quick here. He has shot a few ugly bricks, but he’s not close to first place in that category, if you catch my drift…
We’ll see.
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by timbo on Jan 29, 2009 7:52 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Flip side...
Is the jury “not out” on Sergio Rodriguez?
Point guards don’t really hit their stride until their mid-to-late 20’s and, let’s face it, Sergio was a huge product to begin with. He wasn’t even supposed to make the team as a rookie and last year was almost a total loss… If you’re comparing his progression from last year to this year, wouldn’t you be at least a little interested in where he ends up 3, 4 or 5 years down the road?
His defense has gone from abysmal to below average… His jump shot has gone from unrecognizable to below average… And the assist numbers are still there, which was the major thing he brought to the team in the first place…
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by RoyGoesTheDynamite on Jan 29, 2009 10:37 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, Sergio needs more time to prove himself
Right now, he’s as good/bad as he was his rookie year, with improvements in defense coming from league experience. His improved jumpshot hasn’t really shown up in games, and his numbers are nearly identical to his rookie year, with more minutes and a more consistent role.
Last season was a lost year, just like Martell had his sophomore year.
Sergio is not a complete version of himself, just like Bayless, but Sergio also hasn’t had noticeable improvement in any area except general on the court comfort (which is subjective, but I think most would agree he’s more relaxed out there), and it’s his 3rd season. I didn’t realize this till the other week, when I was going over their numbers, and it surprised me, since Sergio SEEMS improved— I chalked it up to just appearing less tight and rickety on the court, like he did last season.
He’s a unique player who is definitely worth keeping to see what he can become, but he hasn’t REALLY improved much since his rookie year. Not like most players (and certainly, guards) from year one to year three. His jump shot is still one of the worst in the league, his passing amazing, but just the general experience and comfort one gains from being out on the floor for a few years is helping him grow. It just hasn’t been, really, much growth… at all.
BUT, he is still very young, and PG is the hardest position to play in the NBA.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Jan 29, 2009 10:56 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
see that is definitely where I disagree
it is much easier to develop a jump shot than it is to all of a sudden get court vision. Court vision is a way of seeing the game, and Bayless looks at the game to find his opportunities, while Sergio looks at the game as what do I have to do to get my team the best opportunities.
Bayless’ assists come from a drive and kick style, which is also where Brandon gets a lot of his assists. While Blake and Sergio get assists through our offense, and creative playmaking. Sergio’s defense has also gotten a lot better. He is no longer a liability when he is on the court which is very important, and I think honestly he might be a better defender than Blake.
So right now Bayless needs to get a different way to look at the game, gain better ball-handling, improve his passing, and continue to develop his long range game. While Sergio needs to improve his shot, learn when to take a lay-up, and continue to develop on defense. I think that it will definitely be easier for Sergio to raise his game than for Bayless to, if Bayless is going to be a PG. If Bayless is gong to be a SG then he has a lot less to develop: just his long range game.
Last season Sergio hit his Sophomore slump, which generally happens when other teams simply became aware of what you can do and how to stop it. This year Sergio has developed to the point where the team knows his game plan, and still is having a harder time of stopping it, he is getting fewer turnovers, and he is playing some good basketball.
He doesn’t force his shot, usually he is wide-open when he puts the ball up, which is a sign that he is already making the correct decisions (which is obviously very important for a PG) he just needs his shot to start dropping, and when you change your shot significantly (like Sergio did in the off-season) sometimes it takes a little bit before you stop focusing on using the correct form, and start focusing on putting the ball through the rim.
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by TheOdenator on Jan 29, 2009 11:09 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Bayless had three assists to LMA that were beautiful, lead him to a dunk
in the last week.
by Cablinasian on Jan 29, 2009 11:25 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
3?!?
Sergio has done that in under a minute before.
by Zaig on Jan 29, 2009 1:12 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
But I'm referencing post entry passes that led LMA
and you said
Bayless’ assists come from a drive and kick style
Just pointing out that it isn’t entirely true. Jerryd’s been doing better at passing, and he and LMA have developed a good chemistry.
by Cablinasian on Jan 29, 2009 2:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't say that
Odentator did. Bayless DOESN’T get his assists from drive and kick, which is part of my problem with him. That is why I was so stoked in his 6 assist game because he did do that once or twice. One game doesn’t convince me.
by Zaig on Jan 29, 2009 4:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
sergio and blake tend to get more drive and kick assists than bayless…once bayless drives he looks to score or draw contact.
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by Philthyanimal on Jan 29, 2009 6:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Fred Jones is poor and almost starved to death because KP betrayed him
by tominhawaii on Jan 29, 2009 8:26 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
any wonder he lit us up the other night?
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by Honka Playboy on Jan 29, 2009 9:15 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It was so cool though, I wanted to grab the video (illegally) and post it on Youtube.
KP bolted onto the court first thing after the game and gave Jones a hug and wished him well apparently. KP isn’t the kinda’ guy that throws a fellow Oregonian under the bus after a trade. He genuinely seemed happy for Jones, and I wouldn’t be surprised if when we tighten up our roster and have a few open slots, we bring Jones back, kinda’ like how we brought Blake back.
Anyway, nothin’ but love for Jones. I hope he and his family settle in somewhere and are happy.
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by prezofdeath on Jan 29, 2009 1:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
A random thought on Jerryd Bayless -
Brandon Roy was what, 23 or 24 his rookie year? Judge Jerryd by what he does four or five years from now when he’s that age, and I think he’ll come out looking pretty good. There are actually more similarities between Roy’s game and Bayless’s game than most people acknowlege.
by ajinoregon on Jan 29, 2009 10:22 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
theres a lot more differences
than similarities.
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by Philthyanimal on Jan 29, 2009 10:24 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Roy is 24 right now.
Rudy, Rudy, Rudy,
Roy, Roy, Roy!
by joelor on Jan 29, 2009 1:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I LOLed
Man, we should forfeit before roy’s hammy explodes, knocking him into LMA’s ear who loses his balance and hits Greg’s knee… - HurraKane212
http://www.nba.com/news/miles_10_080919.html
by maid tu rek on Jan 29, 2009 2:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Blake and Bayless
I think Blake is exactly what we need right now in terms of a starting PG. He doesn’t require a ton of shots, he hits the open shot and passes well. Plus he is mature and has a steadying influence. Since his first go-round here, he has grown exponentially, IMO. He’s perfect to play off of Brandon, and I wouldn’t want to replace him with a scoring PG, as we don’t need that in our first unit with all the other options we already have.
Bayless provides an attacking, scoring threat and tenacious defender for the second unit that makes it even more dangerous. The fact that he can pass (usually) is a plus, but he provides yet another arrow in a already dangerous quiver.
The only thing I can see about Bayless is, in a few years, if he continues to improve he’s going to need to start. Will having two scoring guards work-out on the first unit? If Roy becomes more of a PG in that lineup, will he be able to share the scoring punch with Bayless, Aldridge, Oden and the SF?
by SloppyJoe on Jan 29, 2009 10:33 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Sergio or Bayless?
both – Elgin
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it for I have it. I get what I deserve. What I deserve - what I deserve what
I get. I have it so I deserve. - Gentle Giant
by 22baylor on Jan 29, 2009 10:46 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
+1
The most hated Blazer is like the least hottest supermodel - Sabonis4Ever
by Philthyanimal on Jan 29, 2009 10:52 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I knew a Steve Blake hater
would crawl out of his hole at some point…. sheesh… (jk)
by Bust a Bucket on Jan 29, 2009 1:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
you funny guy
I get what I deserve. I deserve what I get. I have it so I deserve it. I deserve
it for I have it. I get what I deserve. What I deserve - what I deserve what
I get. I have it so I deserve. - Gentle Giant
by 22baylor on Jan 29, 2009 3:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
funny like clowns
"Only dunk and go to the defense." Rudy Fernandez
by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 29, 2009 6:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
sad clowns
painted on velvet – Elgin
You don't have to wear a clock around your neck to know what time it is at Bob's. Meals cooked with real religious fervor! Thousands of empty seats in the back, for the lonely set. At Bob's you don't have to leave your loved one out in the street - your car is as welcome as you are! - Firesign Theatre.
by 22baylor on Jan 30, 2009 11:52 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If we combine them
we can call the result J-Rod.
by EngineerScotty on Jan 29, 2009 11:02 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Ugh. This is waaayyy too on-topic for JD
Sergio if I have to pick right now for a back up. And I like Blake as our starter. I’m sorry, but B-Rex has to many occasions when he goes to the rim attempting contact and misses all together and that totally irritates me. Also, I hate when a point guard misses wide open players. It means he’s a combo guard, which is totally fine, however on the second unit we need someone to create shots (because we all know by now Travis and Rudy are horrible at that ). I love me some Bayless Face and I think he may work well with Roy starting in the future, but not right now.
While I’m complaining about my team, why not add more? What in the heck is up with Roy’s complaining on no calls??? I know we’ve all discussed this before, but I hate it and it’s not his style. I really don’t want him turning into “that guy”. He totally jinxed himself with that comment.
Rudy for ROY
Campaign 08-09
"Rudy is not everyday a shooter." ~Rudy Fernandez
by twiggs on Jan 29, 2009 11:35 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Excuse me, Rudy is horrible at creating shots? You mean for himself or for others?
I would say he is a better passer than Roy, but if you mean creating his own shot he of course still has ways to go. While Travis is good at that. So all in all I don’t understand that part of your comment.
by Norsktroll on Jan 29, 2009 11:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Geez. Feisty.
Well, I meant Rudy is horrible at creating his own shot. Travis can be debatable :)
Oh come on, I love Trav and Rudy but their shot selection is not the best on their own.
Rudy for ROY
Campaign 08-09
"Rudy is not everyday a shooter." ~Rudy Fernandez
by twiggs on Jan 29, 2009 11:58 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
lol
twiggs – 1
Norsktroll – 0
Man, we should forfeit before roy’s hammy explodes, knocking him into LMA’s ear who loses his balance and hits Greg’s knee… - HurraKane212
http://www.nba.com/news/miles_10_080919.html
by maid tu rek on Jan 29, 2009 2:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I watched an interview with spanish Sergio agent the other day on tv.
And he was confident talking about trades, this is what Sergio wants. The agent told that Sergio is acting like a pro, giving the team as much as he can, but he said also that Sergio knows that with Blake back his minutes are going to be as low as before Blake’s injury.
The Agent predicted that when Martell is back, Portland will be open to trades trying to make some room in the roster.
So this is what Sergio wants, he wants to be traded, he thinks that he don’t have a change with Nate and he prefers to move o other team and have a fresh start there.
Free Sergio!
by ABSF on Jan 29, 2009 12:01 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I think the best thing for Sergio
would be to get a fresh start.
by Cablinasian on Jan 29, 2009 12:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the best thing for Sergio
is to get a new agent.
Thanks for reporting ABSF – Elgin
I get what I deserve. I deserve what I get. I have it so I deserve it. I deserve
it for I have it. I get what I deserve. What I deserve - what I deserve what
I get. I have it so I deserve. - Gentle Giant
by 22baylor on Jan 29, 2009 3:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
this should be a fan post
with the question being posed, under which coach would Sergio be most likely to thrive, and whith which team, ect. I love Sergio and think he can be an allstar someday, as soon as he can get some true scorring consistancy, portland will regret how the handled his developtment
Man, we should forfeit before roy’s hammy explodes, knocking him into LMA’s ear who loses his balance and hits Greg’s knee… - HurraKane212
http://www.nba.com/news/miles_10_080919.html
by maid tu rek on Jan 29, 2009 2:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
I wish somebody would translate it or get the video or something.
by Bust a Bucket on Jan 29, 2009 6:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
this should be a fan post
with the question being posed, under which coach would Sergio be most likely to thrive, and whith which team, ect. I love Sergio and think he can be an allstar someday, as soon as he can get some true scorring consistancy, portland will regret how the handled his developtment
Man, we should forfeit before roy’s hammy explodes, knocking him into LMA’s ear who loses his balance and hits Greg’s knee… - HurraKane212
http://www.nba.com/news/miles_10_080919.html
by maid tu rek on Jan 29, 2009 3:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
I wish somebody would translate it or get the video or something.
by Bust a Bucket on Jan 29, 2009 6:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
KP has said
that he has only dealt with Sergio’s American agent and not his Spanish agent.
The most hated Blazer is like the least hottest supermodel - Sabonis4Ever
by Philthyanimal on Jan 29, 2009 6:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
bayless
bayless is the long term solution to the point guard position. He is a combo guard that pairs perfect with roy and I get the feeling that roy likes playing with him. Bayless’s strengths are the things nate looks for.. He is really a good fit at PG with Roy who handles the ball at the point late anyways.. to me this is easy.. bayless and roy is going to be the back court that we hear about for many years ahead
by JRRIDER on Jan 29, 2009 12:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Alright what are your guys' reactions to Kurt
over at Forum Blue and Gold’s analysis of the Gerald Wallace foul?
Kurt writes, essentially, that he’d have Bynum do the same thing again: “I feel bad that Wallace was hurt as much as he was. Bynum deserves the donation to NBA Charities coming his way from the league office. But I’m good with the long-term ramifications here — I want other teams thinking there is a price to pay for coming into the lane. I want us to be physical like this now and again. (Even after this loss and this play some people pulled the toughness card, even though it was unrelated.) Like a pitcher who throws hard on the inside part of the plate, you will hit a few batters but you establish that area as yours. I want the Lakers to do that with the paint, particularly Bynum, and this is part of that.”
via Truehoop
From the back of Travis Outlaw's Franz card: Travis leads the team in monstrous thunder dunks, wins awards for post game interviews, and often gets extra points for degree of difficulty.
by TheOdenator on Jan 29, 2009 12:35 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Booooooo!
Larry (the new Johnnie Cochran) Miller: "If we get screwed, we're gonna sue"
by 92wastheyear on Jan 29, 2009 12:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
seriously?
What he did is never okay. It’s like aiming a pitch at a head, not aiming a pitch at someone’s gut.
by Cablinasian on Jan 29, 2009 12:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yup.
There’s a difference between throwing inside, thowing inside and high, and headhunting.
I doubt Bynum was headhunting—but he was definitely throwing it high and inside.
by EngineerScotty on Jan 29, 2009 1:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I absolutely concur -- you drive the paint, you get stopped. It was a real bummer that there was an injury, but it wasn't malicious and it is and should be part of the game...
The cilantro in your tapioca pudding since 2007.™
by timbo on Jan 30, 2009 8:28 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Lame...
Big difference betweeen hard fouls and assaulting someone who beats you to the rim…hope Chris paul has one more junk punch up his sleeve for Mr Bynum
"..[Travis Outlaw] could jump, grab a rafter, eat a sandwich, and then dunk.."
tmundal 12/30/07
by LetsBlaze on Jan 29, 2009 12:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
boo.
If you agree with me: Good, I like being agreeable.
If you [think you] don't agree with me: You really do agree with me. You just haven't realized that I use sarcasm alot, so whatever you didn't agree with, take the opposite of it, and that's what I really mean.
by prezofdeath on Jan 29, 2009 1:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thats like saying you would throw at the batter's head again because it'll intimidate future batters
BINGO, BANGO, BONGO
by blzrfan on Jan 29, 2009 2:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's what I'd say
I freakin’ defended that e-mail and trying to sign Darius crap. Fans gotta stick up for their team. Props to Kurt.
≤ˆˆ≥
by tominhawaii on Jan 29, 2009 6:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Playing style difference
People are saying Sergio has had time to develop and should be a lot better etc. etc. There is one major problem. They play waaayy different games.
People are in agreement that PGs take longer to develop on average.
Sergio is developing like a PG.
Bayless is developing like a SG.
Naturally Bayless will develop quicker because the style of game he plays lends itself to developing quicker. Sure, some point guards instantly rock (Chris Paul), but other, less athletic PGs take longer. (Steve Nash.)
Keep in mind that Nash was averaging 3/2 when he was Sergio’s age. Bayless will improve. Sergio will improve. Who will improve more is still up in the air, despite the 2 years age difference because Bayless has the raw athleticism that lets him coast by, but may never let him become great.
To answer the question. Dunno, it’s too early to guess and it’s an unfair question!
by Zaig on Jan 29, 2009 1:16 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
comparing them is like apples and oranges
theres no reason why we can’t keep both…bayless would be a perfect fit with roy as many have discussed, but if we continue to run 2 separate units, i would rather have sergio with trout, rudy, and pryz. i don’t think that sergio and bayless are competing for the same spot in the long run. sure they may fight over the backup spot now…but in a few years i would think that bayless would get the starting and crunch time minutes, where sergio could be the floor general on the 2nd unit. sergio would be more than happy as long as he is having a meaningful role on the team.
The most hated Blazer is like the least hottest supermodel - Sabonis4Ever
by Philthyanimal on Jan 29, 2009 6:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, this junk is way too much on topic. So in honor of my 9999th post (on SBN, not on BE) it gets what it deserves: More cat content
This is my third cat (after a black and white one, and a pitch black one). Fresh when we got it and about now. His name is Punto (Italian for point/dot).
Originally I wanted to make an “Ask a Troll” post to celebrate the occasion Ask a Ninja“-style. Maybe "ask a ninja troll?” But the magic line came too fast and I would need to be able to kill you kill the post if too much information gets out :)
So maybe another day. And I looked forward to discussing other things today anyway. Like when the All-Star reserves are announced later. But that would be on topic again. It’s complicated.
by Norsktroll on Jan 29, 2009 1:28 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
you should take punto's face from the third picture and make it your avatar
then you could fit in with everyone else around here…dave, almart, bow, etc.
If you agree with me: Good, I like being agreeable.
If you [think you] don't agree with me: You really do agree with me. You just haven't realized that I use sarcasm alot, so whatever you didn't agree with, take the opposite of it, and that's what I really mean.
by prezofdeath on Jan 29, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
hmmmmm off topic lets see.....
what are you gonna buy with your free Obama money?
"..[Travis Outlaw] could jump, grab a rafter, eat a sandwich, and then dunk.."
tmundal 12/30/07
by LetsBlaze on Jan 29, 2009 1:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm gonna get a Big Screen TV :-0
"..[Travis Outlaw] could jump, grab a rafter, eat a sandwich, and then dunk.."
tmundal 12/30/07
by LetsBlaze on Jan 29, 2009 1:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Orange cats rule
we have a long haired orange cat named Prince who is the mellowest guy ever. And we have Dixie who is a tabby mutt of a kitty who is energetic and fun. Both are awesome. – Elgin
I get what I deserve. I deserve what I get. I have it so I deserve it. I deserve
it for I have it. I get what I deserve. What I deserve - what I deserve what
I get. I have it so I deserve. - Gentle Giant
by 22baylor on Jan 29, 2009 3:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Punto, huh?
Well, its not a legitimate Blazer cat then. Good news is any cat should develop several names and so there’s room for say uh… Blakey. He’s a point (guard.)
Orange tabbys are very cool cats (not that any aren’t) and I applaud you Norsktroll for bringing this Junk Drawer back to non-PTB related content.
"When it comes to compliments, women are ravenous, bloodsucking monsters, always wanting more, more, more! And if you give it to 'em, you'll get plenty back in return." -- Homer
by bow4meow on Jan 29, 2009 6:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's a nice lil' pussy, Norsk...
thanks for sharing those cute pictures.
by Bust a Bucket on Jan 29, 2009 6:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And for Nr. 10,000 the best joke in the world, as voted in some lame Internet poll. You know how those work
A couple of hunters are out in the woods of Oregon when one of them falls to the ground. He doesn’t seem to be breathing, his eyes are rolled back in his head. The other guy whips out his cell phone and calls 911. He gasps to the operator: “My friend is dead! What can I do?” The operator tries to calm him down, and says in a soothing voice says: “Just take it easy. I can help. First, make sure he’s really dead.” There is a silence, then a shot is heard. The guy’s voice comes back on the line. “OK he is definitely dead, now what?”
by Norsktroll on Jan 29, 2009 1:31 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
lol
that is Oregon for you. Except there is NEVER cell phone coverage in the woods where I hunt, unless you have one of those huge ol’ satellite phones that are like 5 bucks a minute.
If you agree with me: Good, I like being agreeable.
If you [think you] don't agree with me: You really do agree with me. You just haven't realized that I use sarcasm alot, so whatever you didn't agree with, take the opposite of it, and that's what I really mean.
by prezofdeath on Jan 29, 2009 1:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
what do you hunt?
"..[Travis Outlaw] could jump, grab a rafter, eat a sandwich, and then dunk.."
tmundal 12/30/07
by LetsBlaze on Jan 29, 2009 1:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Baylessaurus Rexes
nah just kiddin…. when I lived in Oregon, we hunted elk during elk season, and then full time you’re always hunting Coyotes. In the spring/summer, you’d hunt ground squirrels that tear up farmers’ fields….all year round you could hunt badgers…that was always fun.
Somewhat unrelated: One time my buddy ran over a badger while we were wakeboarding…lol got it on camera and everything. I didn’t even know they could swim.
Good times in Eastern Oregon.
If you agree with me: Good, I like being agreeable.
If you [think you] don't agree with me: You really do agree with me. You just haven't realized that I use sarcasm alot, so whatever you didn't agree with, take the opposite of it, and that's what I really mean.
by prezofdeath on Jan 29, 2009 2:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I had a friend who hit a cow water skiing
≤ˆˆ≥
by tominhawaii on Jan 29, 2009 6:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The first time I ever got stung by a bee was when I stepped on a dead one barefoot.
"Only dunk and go to the defense." Rudy Fernandez
by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 29, 2009 6:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I sat on one
You don't have to wear a clock around your neck to know what time it is at Bob's. Meals cooked with real religious fervor! Thousands of empty seats in the back, for the lonely set. At Bob's you don't have to leave your loved one out in the street - your car is as welcome as you are! - Firesign Theatre.
by 22baylor on Jan 30, 2009 11:54 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I was three, and enjoyed plucking bumblebees out of flowers
I thought they were my friends.
And thus learned my first lesson in betrayal.
by EngineerScotty on Jan 30, 2009 12:09 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I didn't know cows
could water ski…
by EngineerScotty on Jan 30, 2009 10:18 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
No silly
The cow was swimming in the bayou.
by tominhawaii on Jan 30, 2009 11:38 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
rec rec rec
If you agree with me: Good, I like being agreeable.
If you [think you] don't agree with me: You really do agree with me. You just haven't realized that I use sarcasm alot, so whatever you didn't agree with, take the opposite of it, and that's what I really mean.
by prezofdeath on Jan 30, 2009 5:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
u changed new jersey to oregon didn’t you
by Ben. on Jan 29, 2009 2:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Here's a mildly off topic:Anyone planning to go to the Knick game
next…SAturd-ay is it? It’ll be my first Rose Garden experience….
think a pre and/or post fest needs to happen…at least I won’t be scouting the handful of Blazer fans out of the masses…
"..[Travis Outlaw] could jump, grab a rafter, eat a sandwich, and then dunk.."
tmundal 12/30/07
by LetsBlaze on Jan 29, 2009 1:37 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I have a ticket.
So I’m pretty sure I’m going unless something cooler comes up (what is cooler than a Blazer game? Nothing…)
Rudy for ROY
Campaign 08-09
"Rudy is not everyday a shooter." ~Rudy Fernandez
by twiggs on Jan 29, 2009 1:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh snap.
So true.
Rudy for ROY
Campaign 08-09
"Rudy is not everyday a shooter." ~Rudy Fernandez
by twiggs on Jan 29, 2009 2:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
lol
twiggs – 1
Norsktroll – 1
Tied!!!
Man, we should forfeit before roy’s hammy explodes, knocking him into LMA’s ear who loses his balance and hits Greg’s knee… - HurraKane212
http://www.nba.com/news/miles_10_080919.html
by maid tu rek on Jan 29, 2009 3:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just excited that I won't be the only one yelling...
3 road games – - was a challenge to not tick off too many locals…it was Philly and Joizy in the mix
"..[Travis Outlaw] could jump, grab a rafter, eat a sandwich, and then dunk.."
tmundal 12/30/07
by LetsBlaze on Jan 29, 2009 1:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
heard some rumors the Joizy team might end up in Seattle
"..[Travis Outlaw] could jump, grab a rafter, eat a sandwich, and then dunk.."
tmundal 12/30/07
by LetsBlaze on Jan 29, 2009 1:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh and the game is sunday at 3 pm.
Rudy for ROY
Campaign 08-09
"Rudy is not everyday a shooter." ~Rudy Fernandez
by twiggs on Jan 29, 2009 2:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah you are right...
Sunday afternoon
"..[Travis Outlaw] could jump, grab a rafter, eat a sandwich, and then dunk.."
tmundal 12/30/07
by LetsBlaze on Jan 29, 2009 5:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll be there as well.
Isn’t it Sunday though?
by Zaig on Jan 29, 2009 4:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone else
get a little irked by Brandon overselling his fouls again last night? I want him to get the calls but when he yells on EVERY PLAY it makes it seem like thats just what he does not that he is getting fouled. Talking to the ref after a missed call or barking at them a little isnt horrible, but yelling during EVERY drive to the hoop isnt gonna work. they start to tune it out!
or maybe its just me. bad plan of action by the Natural
I'm afraid Chiekh Samb's kids are going to be born ducking
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jan 29, 2009 2:20 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
A bit
You don’t even have to look. If it yells “And1”, it was Brandon driving to the rim. Maybe he is currently in a phase where he thinks he has to call attention to the fact that he is getting fouled on almost every attempt. Dirk had to do it for a while when he was constantly getting hacked when turning for a jump shot. I hope he scales it back again a bit once he sees that he is getting most of the calls he should get.
by Norsktroll on Jan 29, 2009 2:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I mean last night
it was obviously not working. he probably cost himself 5 trips to the line by doing it. the refs just kinda tune it out.. like well here he goes again, hes gonna yell. instead of doing it when he actually gets fouled.
I'm afraid Chiekh Samb's kids are going to be born ducking
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jan 29, 2009 2:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
my prob. with it isn't that the refs won't call other fouls because of it
it’s when he doesn’t get back in trans. because he’s flailing his arms about; when it potentially costs the blazers easy buckets, that’s when i’m super not impressed. The Duncan/Pop approach of getting in the refs head and talking to him during FTs is much better overall it seems.
Don't Redeactivate Shavlik Randolph
by appel82 on Jan 29, 2009 3:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
BRANDON IS IN THE ALL STAR GAME!
And I have used up my quota of caps locked words for the week.
by premthegrem on Jan 29, 2009 3:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
is it OK to link to a Wojnarowski (sp?) article?
Glad Shaq is getting there for a Lifetime Achievement Award. Though he has been playing very well lately. – Elgin
I get what I deserve. I deserve what I get. I have it so I deserve it. I deserve
it for I have it. I get what I deserve. What I deserve - what I deserve what
I get. I have it so I deserve. - Gentle Giant
by 22baylor on Jan 29, 2009 3:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Those aren't nearly as ugly as the uniforms for the 1996 All-Star game
by tingeyga on Jan 29, 2009 5:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Snap
The above picture is from the 1995 game, also hosted by Phoenix.
But the 1996 unis weren’t any better
But seriously, a chili pepper?
by tingeyga on Jan 29, 2009 5:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I hate southwestern style
Too much turquoise. I’m not down with much Hawaiian style, but it is way better than that southwestern junk.
≤ˆˆ≥
by tominhawaii on Jan 29, 2009 6:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Southwestern fashion and NBA don't mix I guess.
by Mortimer on Jan 29, 2009 8:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The worst things in those pictures
are the haircuts on Mutombo and Kemp. – Elgin
You don't have to wear a clock around your neck to know what time it is at Bob's. Meals cooked with real religious fervor! Thousands of empty seats in the back, for the lonely set. At Bob's you don't have to leave your loved one out in the street - your car is as welcome as you are! - Firesign Theatre.
by 22baylor on Jan 30, 2009 11:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
junk
Did you know…
… that today is Think Hawaii Day? and Tom Sellecks B-day. I knew I shoulda done todays junk to keep it real
"When it comes to compliments, women are ravenous, bloodsucking monsters, always wanting more, more, more! And if you give it to 'em, you'll get plenty back in return." -- Homer
by bow4meow on Jan 29, 2009 6:04 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I had a been burrito to celebrate
≤ˆˆ≥
by tominhawaii on Jan 29, 2009 6:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I got a new fresh nickname for the Blazers
From now on, I’m going to call them the “Blaz.”
≤ˆˆ≥
by tominhawaii on Jan 29, 2009 6:16 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I like Balzers
"Only dunk and go to the defense." Rudy Fernandez
by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 29, 2009 6:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Trailers
"Only dunk and go to the defense." Rudy Fernandez
by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 29, 2009 7:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't feel like working today
I have the Blaz. – Elgin
You don't have to wear a clock around your neck to know what time it is at Bob's. Meals cooked with real religious fervor! Thousands of empty seats in the back, for the lonely set. At Bob's you don't have to leave your loved one out in the street - your car is as welcome as you are! - Firesign Theatre.
by 22baylor on Jan 30, 2009 11:56 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
A young KP, thinking about how he can eat his cake and also get the best of his opponent while the poor guy has his eyes off the prize
by Norsktroll on Jan 29, 2009 6:23 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
KP is always showing off for the media.
I hate that guy.
"Only dunk and go to the defense." Rudy Fernandez
by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 29, 2009 6:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone else get the feeling
That the Blaz’ are going to trade for Dirk Nowitzki?
≤ˆˆ≥
by tominhawaii on Jan 29, 2009 6:49 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
More like for Josh Howard
But then again, Quick is the oracle talking to the gods, and he said the solution comes from the East like the rising sun.
by Norsktroll on Jan 29, 2009 7:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
I got that feeling
"Only dunk and go to the defense." Rudy Fernandez
by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 29, 2009 7:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
would anyone else
be as upset if we traded for dirk as i would be.
by Obsidian on Jan 29, 2009 6:50 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Seriously?
Dirk + Oden would be amazing.
"Only dunk and go to the defense." Rudy Fernandez
by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 29, 2009 7:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Homerism works in both directions. This is from the trade drawer of my friends at Mavs Moneyball
I already explained why it won’t fly, but that’s the kind of deal they hope to make ;-)
by Norsktroll on Jan 29, 2009 7:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt we could really get Shawne Williams out of it
Man, we Blazer fans are homers.
Mo—
by Mortimer on Jan 29, 2009 8:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
HAAAAAAAHAhahahahaha
Man, we should forfeit before roy’s hammy explodes, knocking him into LMA’s ear who loses his balance and hits Greg’s knee… - HurraKane212
http://www.nba.com/news/miles_10_080919.html
by maid tu rek on Jan 29, 2009 8:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
hurl
You don't have to wear a clock around your neck to know what time it is at Bob's. Meals cooked with real religious fervor! Thousands of empty seats in the back, for the lonely set. At Bob's you don't have to leave your loved one out in the street - your car is as welcome as you are! - Firesign Theatre.
by 22baylor on Jan 30, 2009 11:57 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I just vomited in my mouth
and in yours, your friend’s, and everyone’s in Dallas.
by MiledAnimal on Jan 30, 2009 4:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Roses are red
Tom in Tiajuana likes donkeys,
Travis is from Mississippi
and knows lots of honkeys.
by Bust a Bucket on Jan 29, 2009 7:46 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Magic beat CLE
Spurs at Suns on TNT
by southern oregon on Jan 29, 2009 8:16 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Pissed off kid
Frikin got cheated out of 10 dollars. Corrupt capitalist society….
The Kings have the best bench I’ve seen. There are easily 14 guys on this team good enough for every bench in the league. Now if we could only get some starters, I’d totally jizz in my pants.
Kings fan
by dyshooter182 on Jan 29, 2009 8:38 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
hahaha
I just needed a space to say that. Argh….Still irritated though.
The Kings have the best bench I’ve seen. There are easily 14 guys on this team good enough for every bench in the league. Now if we could only get some starters, I’d totally jizz in my pants.
Kings fan
by dyshooter182 on Jan 29, 2009 8:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
can someone confirm that darius miles’s 10 days are now up and there’s no announcement of a new deal for him?
by Ben. on Jan 29, 2009 9:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
You don't got free night time minutes?
Call him.
"Only dunk and go to the defense." Rudy Fernandez
by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 29, 2009 9:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There's a girl on American Idol that looks like Dwight Howard and she likes to dance naked
≤ˆˆ≥
by tominhawaii on Jan 29, 2009 9:53 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
that's scary..
I had a nightmare about getting assaulted by somebody like that.
by Bust a Bucket on Jan 29, 2009 10:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Suns continue to freefall
Wierd game
by southern oregon on Jan 29, 2009 10:14 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
good night!
goodnight ming!
* "Chick flicks are illegal in my house... the only girly thing my girl watches is Project Runway." Which Blazer yelled this out in the locker room? Who else? Channing Frye. I know that's going to be somebody's signature.
by BlazermaniacAndy on Jan 30, 2009 12:43 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
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