RLEC for Salmons?

I’m not sure about his defense, but offensively, he fits the mold. Gets about 1.3 points per shot, 41% from three.

Still don’t like giving away RLEC for him, though. There are a lot better players out there (Hinrich, anyone?).

(and no great ones)

Hoopsworld is on crack right now. Put down the pipe Wendell.

I am tentatively in favor of this trade, though. I have always admired John Salmons. He reminds me of Gerald Wallace in some respects. (Now everyone can flame me for being b’ball stupid by drawing such an inapt comparison.)

Salmons would fit well on our team. Good character. Plus he looks like a revolutionary poet.

Trout would be headed downstream.

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ok that’s all I’ve got.

Other teams may think, hey I can give you more than Salmons for that nice chunk of change.

Raef + 1st round pick for

John Salmons

Kenny Thomas

Is the writer of this fictional rumor high or just trying to generate pageviews for Hoopsworld?

Mockable. Laughable. Comical.

Rumor assumes Kings decision-makers are lobotomized.

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Outlaw + Raef +Pick seems like a more likely scenario though, although I am too lazy to try and make the numbers work. Salmons would be a fairly significant upgrade over Outlaw, but I don’t know if it is worthing dumping the RLEC and a pick….

of shots since Kevin Martin returned. Additionally, Sacramento has been desperately trying to unload Kenny Thomas for quite some time. If Sacramento’s #1 goal is salary cap flexiblity then this move would make sense for them. It is also well documented that they are trying to trade Brad Miller and his hefty contract. They are dumping salary.

On our end I’m not sure we want someone who whines when he is not the first option. Talent wise, no brainer. Big picture I would pass.

and I’d have questions about Salmons’ production outside of the leading scorer role as well. But if KP were able to answer those questions to his satisfaction this would be a steal.

—Dave

Even if we would get Mikki Moore in that deal with Salmons. Don’t like it. There is a reason why Sactown is not up in the standings: Bench talent playing around one good starter.

We would get another 6’6" SG-SF that can score and is not known for their defense. Our front court / wing rotation would get even deeper quickly. Probably with Trout never playing the 3 again, and Nic getting garbage minutes behind Salmons and Marty ( whenever he comes back ). Might lighten the load Roy would have to take ( which could be a good insurance policy ) and reduce Rudy’s minutes ( bad ). If this is the best we could do I wouldn’t be that upset, but would prefer to improve our perimeter D more. Maybe I’m wrong though about Salmons’ D. Does anyone know just how good his D is?

How about the fact Salmons has been a average player on bad teams.

Why the F would we want this sorry ass veteran on the Blazers?

Let the young guys continue to gel.

Salmons can certainly play. Whether he can effectively play SF is another question—his natural position is shooting guard.

If we did this deal, we would have a very crowded wing rotation, with Roy, Salmons, Webster, Batum, and Rudy all playing minutes at either the 2 or the 3. And this ignores Bayless, who is stuck between 1 and 2, and Outlaw, who has been playing a lot of 3 this year, but is probably better at power forward. Probably someone else gets moved.

I kinda doubt this happens.

Forget Brad Miller, his game has steadily gone down hill.

I think we hang tough and get Martell back in there, let him pick up the slack as he works himself back in shape. He’s lengthy and has the range to drill threes.

I’m for canning Sergio though. His game is a headache.

In the NBA, as in nature, Salmons do the same things as Trout, only more abundantly and with slightly better results (i.e. Salmons spawn—er, score—in bunches).

I think this would be an upgrade over Travis. Salmons scores a little better, and passes a little more, and makes only a little more money. In fact, he has been a scoring machine this season. Unfortunately, or not depending on your persuasion, this would probably necessitate a second trade in which Travis is sent packing. Would certainly shake things up.

alright just got reliable word this has no legs whatsoever, if you hadn’t guessed that already.

But mostly in just a ‘fantasy’ sense, where it doesn’t really help you win, and ONLY for a bad team.

He would not be happy on the Blazers, as all of his career Salmons has had someone in his way, and he wants a chance to shine. If he wants to be dealt from the Kings because of the losses, that’s one thing, but if he just wants to show his stuff… he won’t find many other teams that are willing to give him a lot of shots, which the Kings still are even with Martin back.

Salmons CAN play, but Outlaw/Martell would score more on a team that gave them as many shots as Salmons gets.

Decent player, not what we need, definitely not worth RLEC.

Mortimer

having Batum on the floor with the starters, is I think, one of the reasons we are getting off to such slow starts. He cannot be counted on to hit open shots rights not. even premier defenders like Bowen and Battier were really good 3 shooters with Bowen leading the league in % one year. This isn’t to say that Batum won’t come around offensively, he’s just not good enough on D to make up for it yet.
how awesome would our second unit be with Batum on the Bench?
Sergio (who i think is going to be on his way out soon)/Bayless
Rudy
Batum
Travis
Joel

that lineup gives you everything you’d want out of a second unit. defense, passing, rebound and lots of scoring

… I’d be looking to add Ime Udoka before I would John Salmons.

Here is Ime’s line when he played for Portland:

28.6 .461 .406 .742

That’s Mins ; FG% ; 3Pt% & FT% . Add in 1 steal and 4 rebounds per game. From a personality and character aspect, I am of the opinion that Ime is a much better choice over Salmons. He would add maturity, toughness, and perhaps best of all, solid defense. And he wouldn’t come in expecting a starting spot. He would understand that he’d have to earn it, as well as know that it was a possibility due to Nate rewarding players who work hard and don’t make a lot of mistakes.

And as much as I love Udoka, I don’t believe he (or any other SF) is a Blazer need. I think Martell will end up better than almost all but a handful of SF’s in the league. And on the small chance that his foot injury turns out to be of a cronic nature and limits his career, I’m perfectly happy with Nic, a guy who has managed to be the regular starter at the age of 19 and not having English as a language.

I am not as convinced as some are the Raef’s expiring contract is burning a hole in Pritchard’s pocket. If the right set of circumstances align, it could help KP score a nice coup. But if they don’t, he’s not out much by letting the deal expire.

Not that Miller is that great of a target since he is 32, but it would offer new opportunities to deal Joel immediately or Miller in the off-season. And a number of teams would be interested in that.

If you want Brad Miller on your team you better make sure he has plenty of weed. Otherwise you would need to trade for Mikki Moore as well because that dude
A) loves snakes
B) Tokes the sh*t out of the bong.

Bong rips for Blazers! Those days are over.

Sactown Royalty is discussing the rumors here, and here’s a trade proposal that looks EENTERISTING.

Basically, its:

• Sergio + RLEC + future first-rounder to SAC
• Shavlik to Miami
• Sac sends Brad Miller to Miami

and the payoff

• Matrix to Portland.

The Blazers get a lockdown 3 with an expiring contract and a big name rep, in exchange for parts. Given that we’ve got Koponen and Freeland learning to play hoops in Europe, and four rooks on the roster THIS year, I don’t mind losing the pick. Only issue is we’re hurting at PG until Blake gets back.

But having Matrix come to town makes things interesting. We can rest Martell for the remainder of the year, and give Marion a tryout. He’s better than any 3 we have. The question is, will he be nice? We can give him lots of touches here in Portland. Worst thing is that Matrix departs at the end of the season, and we’re out a pick.

Thoughts?

This could be a move to get Raef off the books and the roster first and foremost. Which in my opinion is hard to deal out considering his age, productivity/efficiency, payroll cost, and injury. This could be a smart move. Let go a dying asset (if you even want to call him that), pick up an asset in Salmons that can/could be traded to another team for something even more valuable and so on until we have positioned ourselves to pick up what we want.

This could be the beginning of a trade negotiation that begins with getting the right trade pieces. The only thing not mentioned at the moment is a third party.

I mean think about this. Salmon’s wouldn’t give us much of anything we don’t already have. With Webster coming back after All-star break, and although he is so far unproven, we have fire power in him and a good defender in Batum. Not too mention, I am a firm believer that Webster will up his D.

is that it appears Paul Allen is willing to use RLEC to pick-up a player instead of reducing his luxury tax hit. If so, it means he wants a championship enough to stay in lux-tax hell to get it.

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