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Today's Poll -- Fouling Out Edition

Two of our rookies -- Jerryd Bayless and Greg Oden -- fouled out last night.  Greg in 25 minutes; Rex in just under 18 minutes.  It is no fun to be a rookie in the NBA, especially against a team like Cleveland.

Here's my question for you... based on your pickup hoop skills, how long could you last in an NBA game before fouling out?  Take the question as seriously or lightly as you please.

-- Ben (benjamin.golliver@gmail.com)

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Before committing my sixth foul in an NBA game, I could play...
less than 5 minutes. I'm an enforcer. I pride myself on that.
269 votes
5 to 10 minutes. I have a bad hand-checking habit.
190 votes
10 to 20 minutes. I gamble for steals but I move my feet.
188 votes
20 to 30 minutes. I hold my own. Or at least get out of the way consistently.
191 votes
30 minutes +. The only way I foul out is if the refs are calling ticky-tack charges.
137 votes

975 votes | Poll has closed

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All it would take based on last night

is stepping on the court and looking a a CAV.

by DucRider on Jan 22, 2009 11:33 AM PST reply actions  

I voted for 20-30 minutes

Only because I would be too slow to comitt a foul.

"I saw him in the face" Sergio's quote on the latest alley-oop to Rudy.

by blazermaniac32 on Jan 22, 2009 11:37 AM PST reply actions  

I must be slower than you

because the same reasoning led me to select 30+ minutes.

by tingeyga on Jan 22, 2009 11:39 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Well I'm slow...

and I voted for less than 5 because I would be too tired to even try on offense so I would just sit on the defensive end and if someone would try to drive by me I would just reach out and foul him.

Red Hot and Rolling

by BlazerFan88 on Jan 22, 2009 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I normally would last 30+

but if I get annoyed by someone on the other team, like Varejao for instance, I would be out it less than five minutes, but Varejao would have a buzz cut and an eye patch! I learned all my best moves from Pai Mei. Five Point Exploding Heart Technique

"It's not who jumps the highest -- it's who wants it the most" Buck Williams

by Fund A Mental on Jan 22, 2009 11:39 AM PST reply actions  

I voted for 10-20 minutes

but I don’t think me even punching most of these guys, would effect them at all. I’ve got the steve nash problem, the refs wouldn’t call fouls on me just out of pity.

From the back of Travis Outlaw's Franz card: Travis leads the team in monstrous thunder dunks, wins awards for post game interviews, and often gets extra points for degree of difficulty.

by TheOdenator on Jan 22, 2009 11:41 AM PST reply actions  

I voted 5 minutes

I wouldn’t last 5 minutes, and not because I would foul out, but because I would pass out. I’m so out of shape I wouldn’t be able to keep up with the NBA game. Or I’d try for a rebound and get knocked into the second row of photographers.

Actually, what would happen is that as soon as I stepped on the court, the fans would start to taunt me. As soon as some drunk idiot courtside said something personal about me, I’d probably go after him and get myself thrown out.

by unblindloyalty on Jan 22, 2009 11:56 AM PST reply actions  

I push off all the time

That’s one of my big post defensive moves. Just a gentle push when someone does a turn-around against me.

by robrun2 on Jan 22, 2009 11:59 AM PST reply actions  

30+, baby...

Two reasons:

1) I don’t play defense. It’s no fun and wastes energy that I could use on the offensive end. Since I don’t play defense, I never foul anyone.

2) I also don’t play offense. If I ever made it into a game, it would be due to injury or fouls of someone else and therefore the team would be forced to play me extended minutes.

Put simply, I’m a total liability on the court.

"When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car"

by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Jan 22, 2009 12:00 PM PST reply actions  

30 plus minutes

by the time I caught up to everyone, they’d already be heading back down the court. I hold no illusions as to where I’d stand against NBA talent.

So… ticky tacky falls because they could probably drive at me and I just wouldn’t get out of the way fast enough.

Greg Oden, where posters happen.

by ratbastird on Jan 22, 2009 12:01 PM PST reply actions  

I am good at basketball

as long as no running or jumping is involved.

6’2", 275 lbs. – Not Elgin.

If you smile at me I will understand, because that is something everybody everywhere does in the same language. - Crosby/Stills/Kantner

by 22baylor on Jan 22, 2009 12:04 PM PST reply actions  

Good defenders defend, bad defenders foul.

<5 minutes.

Everybody was a baby once, Arthur. Oh, sure, maybe not today, or even yesterday. But once. Babies, chum: tiny, dimpled, fleshy mirrors of our us-ness, that we parents hurl into the future, like leathery footballs of hope. And you've got to get a good spiral on that baby, or evil will make an interception.

by shenanigans on Jan 22, 2009 12:06 PM PST reply actions  

Based on the last full-court hoops I played, I'd only last 10 minutes in an NBA game

But not due to foul trouble. I’d be too winded to foul anybody. After five minutes my legs would be lead and my lungs would be burning. After 10, they’d haul me off on a stretcher.

This is partly due to my age (56). But mainly it’s because I spend way too much time watching games on the couch & blogging at Blazersedge.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Jan 22, 2009 12:07 PM PST reply actions  

5 mins would be generous for me

I play center/pf when i play with my friends.
and unlike the nba, we actually play defense (arm check, body check, etc.).

Plus I’m pretty sure stepping on the court was grounds for a foul last night.

by postup on Jan 22, 2009 12:27 PM PST reply actions  

During the timeout

Nate looks at the players around him.
Oden, you’re tanking down low, set the screen for Rudy and don’t let anyone hit him.
Rudy, I want you to put your 3 ball on autocast.
If we do this, we should have a 73.3% chance to win this game, the 3 repeating of course.
Roy, Bayless, and Leeroy, you guys need too… Leeroy, where are you?

Nate glances over at the court only to see Leeroy charging the Cavs huddle.
“LEEEEEEEROOY JENKINS!” is all that can be heard as Leeroy dives into the huddle, fouling 5 Cavs and the waterboy on route to his ejection.

by Zaig on Jan 22, 2009 1:54 PM PST up reply actions   3 recs

I'll give you a cookie

If you run into an opposing team’s huddle and yell Arcane Explosion over and over.

by Zaig on Jan 22, 2009 3:07 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

I'll give you one too

If you run into the middle of them and yell “Howl of Terror” and laugh as you see them run around feared.

Zaig, Rec just cause I had to bite my tongue so I wouldn’t break out laughing in the middle of watching my class work on a project.

"Do or Do not there is no Try"
Yoda

by Bakasama on Jan 23, 2009 8:43 AM PST up reply actions  

I wouldent have to worry about foul trouble, I would never get off the bench.

I try to help with everything," Fernandez said. "If the coach says go rebound, I go rebound. I work for the team.

""If I'm playing this game to get media and attention, I shouldn't be here," Aldridge said. "I'm here to play basketball, and do what I can do to help this team win."

by Dragonage on Jan 22, 2009 12:44 PM PST reply actions  

Wait...

I’d probably get T’d up for arguing the call, then get T’d up again for arguing that T and get booted. Especially last night after that loose ball call on Oden against Queen James.

"When Bellotti attempted to shake the hand of Oklahoma State quarterback Zac Robinson after the game, Robinson offered his left hand. His right was swollen and battered from the Ducks' defense."

by MarineCorpsDuck on Jan 22, 2009 12:50 PM PST reply actions  

I can't imagine trying to keep an NBA guard in front of me

"Rudy’s flashy passes had the place whispering to each other like we were in junior high" ~BlazermaniacAndy

by courtsideerrandboy on Jan 22, 2009 1:16 PM PST reply actions  

I can't imagine trying to keep a huge center like Shaq in front of me

As a kid I saw his huge shoe in a museum. That alone impressed me. Seeing him in person impressed me more. Trying to keep him out of the paint would be impossible.

by Norsktroll on Jan 22, 2009 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

When I play against someone who's actually good ...

I swear they actually go right through me. I barely know which way they went. Just imagine guarding Bayless or Harris or Barbosa.

by Kaboomm on Jan 22, 2009 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Less than 5 minutes.

But I’m pretty sure that I would never make it to six fouls. Coaches would simply come to the conclusion that having only four guys on the floor would be better than having me out there at all.

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by T Darkstar on Jan 22, 2009 1:19 PM PST reply actions  

put me in, coach....

and the first time I foul somebody, I’ll scream and spit at the refs and stop my feet and pull my hair out until I get kicked out of the game, my teammates get fired up, and the refs realize what total hefty bags they’re being.

so, say, 20 seconds.

by LicketyBrindle on Jan 22, 2009 1:25 PM PST reply actions  

I use the LMA method

I avoid fouls by not playing defense.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Jan 22, 2009 1:45 PM PST reply actions  

exactly, as long as Both Teams Played Hard

"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy

by Honka Playboy on Jan 22, 2009 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

5 minutes and I'd probably get a Red Card,

and 4 minutes in the penalty box for a major, and a 15 yard unsportsmanlike conduct. And I’d lose a stroke

"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy

by Honka Playboy on Jan 22, 2009 2:02 PM PST reply actions  

That's the difference between basketball and hockey

One time there was a basketball game on the TV at work, and my old boss noticed the players whining about every little ticky-tacky call. He said, “If they were hockey players, they’d be saying, ‘Yeah, I did it! And I’ll do it again!’”

by Kaboomm on Jan 22, 2009 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I think most pick up players would foul out quickly

because the ‘veteran’ tricks NBA players use to draw fouls just wouldn’t happen during a pickup game. Flopping, leaning into a guy who left his feet, Aldridge’s new get my off arm caught on the other guy on purpose move, etc….all this stuff would get me fouled out in no time at all. I’m not used to a guy falling over at the slightest touch.

Of course this is all assuming I was magically gifted an NBA game and body.

"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"

by Magnum on Jan 22, 2009 2:12 PM PST reply actions  

5 minutes

But I wouldn’t foul out, I’d collapse from exhaustion.

by pualo on Jan 22, 2009 2:49 PM PST reply actions  

ditto

lighting up cigs in between games does wonders for the old stamina. but the way my addict mind rationalizes it is that i have to breath harder thus im getting more exercise bang for my buck. the teammates love it too. not so much.

Oderint dum metuant

by WhiteRabbit on Jan 22, 2009 10:33 PM PST up reply actions  

"I'm an enforcer"

I’m 6-foot-4, so I generally guard the paint. It’s not that I foul people — they happen to run into me and fall over.

Of course, in the actual NBA I would last 0:38, the exact amount of garbage time Nate would let me have if the lead were more than 30.

by Kaboomm on Jan 22, 2009 2:55 PM PST reply actions  

30 + minutes

I would hide in the corner most of the game hoping not to be stepped on. The only way I would foul is if I was running away and the other team ran me over.

Rudyculize: The act of Rudy making others look slow, dim and generally oafish.
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by Y5k on Jan 22, 2009 3:26 PM PST reply actions  

Hip Replacement

I can’t vote because I had a hip replacement 2-1/2 years ago. The Doctor won’t let me play anymore. Sucks to get old.

by toolman on Jan 22, 2009 3:26 PM PST reply actions  

Sorry to hear that toolman, but I think that's why god made video games.

Rudyculize: The act of Rudy making others look slow, dim and generally oafish.
http://www.myspace.com/y5k

by Y5k on Jan 22, 2009 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

the last time I regularly played ball

we didn’t call anything except out-of-bounds. Which is fortunate for me, because I used to throw elbows after a board like Sir Charles. I could have pretty easily averaged 15-5-10, points fouls turnovers—I used enough jump-stops and four-step layups that Lebron could have asked me for pointers. I also drew a lot of charges, which in a no-foul league was pretty pointless. But I learned a lot about being stepped on.

Nowadays I wouldn’t pick up foul one, because my skillset has become more like Ike Diogu: I’d be awesome at sitting on a bench, cheering my teammates, playing Xbox, and getting beat down by Oden on a daily basis.

by abdelnaby on Jan 22, 2009 3:55 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

I like your pick-up rules.

Most pick-up games devolve into a prima donna calling foul every time he misses his patented 30 foot heave at the basket fadeaway special.

I easily averaged 15-10-5 – rebounds-fouls-dirty looks – the last time I played ball on a regular basis.

by torsoheap on Jan 22, 2009 5:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Just looking at the vote total...

… I was thinking there were a lot of delusional fans here.

The comments add a bit of persective.

hakkaa päälle !

by timg56 on Jan 22, 2009 4:09 PM PST reply actions  

i put ten minutes

because I’m delusional. But I don’t think I could keep up with anyone enough to foul them.

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by appel82 on Jan 22, 2009 6:17 PM PST reply actions  

Did you say

how many minutes before I get knocked out?

by oregonslee on Jan 22, 2009 7:42 PM PST reply actions  

less then 5

but i think i could flop enough to draw an offensive foul(my grandparents are from Europe so it’s in my blood)

"Howard, he know me" Rudy

by phillyduck23 on Jan 22, 2009 10:39 PM PST reply actions  

i voted for 30+

:) Does a good matador foul out? I think I’d probably step aside and help escort LeBron or Shaq down the lane.

by jayfisher on Jan 22, 2009 11:02 PM PST reply actions  

Iv'e never committed a foul in my life

the refs just have it in for me, plus they are blind and don’t know the rules

by Peteyhasnohead on Jan 22, 2009 11:05 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

From the Rick Barry School of Basketball

I get what I deserve. I deserve what I get. I have it so I deserve it. I deserve
it for I have it. I get what I deserve. What I deserve - what I deserve what
I get. I have it so I deserve. - Gentle Giant

by 22baylor on Jan 23, 2009 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

I'd last all 48

Everybody on the floor would be by me so fast I’d never get my arms up. Nor would I have to worry about fatigue. By the time I made it back to mid-court, the entire play would have finished on the other end and the 9-man herd would be tearing past me once again.

by blazerwizard on Jan 23, 2009 6:58 AM PST reply actions  

I went whole seasons without committing a foul

although I did get called for a flagrant when a kid next to me tripped.

From between say age 6 and my sophomore year, I probably committed a total of 50 fouls.

M, period. Fresh, comma.

by manzell on Jan 23, 2009 7:11 AM PST reply actions  

Funnily enough . . .

Since this question was posted, I wound up playing in a pickup game against a guy I found out later was an actual NBA player. I’m sure he has a no-pickup-game clause in his contract, so (a) I won’t identify him and (b) he wasn’t playing hard. I managed to not foul him, almost always block him out for rebounds, and mostly stay in front of him on the dribble. On the other hand, I missed all my shots and also he wasn’t even trying.

by Kaboomm on Jan 23, 2009 3:20 PM PST reply actions  

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