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Today's Poll -- Which Do You Remember?

Something funny happened yesterday at practice.  One of the out-of-town reporters was questioning Brandon about LeBron and slipped up, started a question by saying, "Last year here in Portland you got the better of LeBron..." and his voice trailed off pretty quickly because Brandon was already giving him the gas face.  

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"Oh, that's right," the writer was scrambling a little bit and you could almost hear him thinking... "the Cavs did beat you last year... and, oh, that's right.... LeBron did make the game winning layup on your home court... whoops!"  

Eventually the conversation got back on track but it was another example of Brandon's pretty-much photographic memory when it comes to losses, and not just marquee matchups like the Cavs.  He's got a game catalogue in his head: earlier this year, I remember him spouting off the gametimes of games played more than a year in the past.  Surely that's a result of his competitiveness and focus.  

As for me?  The most memorable games are always the big wins.  Followed by the tough losses.  Followed by the less-important wins.  Followed by REALLY ugly losses.  Followed by nothing.  I have a much harder time remembering details from standard-fare losses than I do standard-fare wins.  

What I'm trying to ask is: is that normal?  For NBA coaches, I'm sure it's the exact opposite: the losses are much easier to remember than the wins.  But what about you?  Vote in the poll and then let's talk in the comments. 

-- Ben (benjamin.golliver@gmail.com)

Poll
I remember...
Wins much better than losses.
205 votes
Losses much better than wins.
197 votes
Both about the same.
159 votes
I have never lost, so I am only able to remember victory.
37 votes
I have never won. In fact, I'm losing this poll right now.
46 votes
Other
16 votes

660 votes | Poll has closed

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Both about the same

Big wins and bad losses get etched into the mind. For example, I’ve commented previously on how my main memory of Jack is the behind-the-back pass on the break against Denver last year. It’s not fair to him, because I have a lot of others. But it was the biggest moment, and he failed.

Same for the team. When they succeed or fail in a big moment, that’s always etched the most.

Last week, I actually had a moment where I said “Wait, we’ve played Dallas this season?”. Which I guess means pedestrian wins and losses tend to get overshadowed by the big events.

by Timmay! on Jan 21, 2009 11:49 AM PST reply actions  

Uhhh, I haven't had my coffee yet . . .

       But from the land of K. Singler, please
crank up the intelligence of your posts in
honor of his Dukeness ! Perhaps then, I
can talk him into coming out, for the Blazers !

It's GO time !

by walkoff41 on Jan 21, 2009 12:03 PM PST reply actions  

we were up by 1

4.6 seconds to go. lebron gets the inbound from my left and takes it into the lane. aldridge plays some poor defense and we lose. i remember the game pretty well :[

by Blazerland on Jan 21, 2009 12:21 PM PST reply actions  

LeBron took like 8 steps

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...

by BlazerFan1 on Jan 21, 2009 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn't mind that so much until

the refs asked him for his autograph afterwards.

by MiledAnimal on Jan 21, 2009 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Losses get immediately suppressed.

If the Blazers lose, I do not even think about basketball for the rest of the night… can’t even bring myself to check the scores from the rest of the league. All things considered, I can’t even remember us losing at all this season.

RUDY! RUDY! RUDY!

by sagebru5h on Jan 21, 2009 12:21 PM PST reply actions  

Me too.

I even avoid here. Mostly, because I know what all the posts will be about anyways.

Current Titles:

Official Blazer's Edge Poet Co-Laureate for the 2008-2009 Season
Official Blazer's Edge Ambassador to the Milwaukee Bucks
Unofficial Blazer's Edge Grammar Magister
Unofficial Blazer's Edge Grumpy Ol' Curmudgeon
Chaplain of the Jarrett Jack Jump-Pass Memorial Fanclub

by T Darkstar on Jan 21, 2009 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I make an exception for Dave and Ben though.

Current Titles:

Official Blazer's Edge Poet Co-Laureate for the 2008-2009 Season
Official Blazer's Edge Ambassador to the Milwaukee Bucks
Unofficial Blazer's Edge Grammar Magister
Unofficial Blazer's Edge Grumpy Ol' Curmudgeon
Chaplain of the Jarrett Jack Jump-Pass Memorial Fanclub

by T Darkstar on Jan 21, 2009 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I think that's not uncommon.

If you were to track activity on this site after a tough loss vs a great win, I would bet there would be at least a 5 to 1 ratio favoring the win. Maybe not so much in views, but posts certainly seem to go down.

The cowards never started
The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers

by lukeyhere on Jan 21, 2009 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I remember everything

like March 7th, 1995, when we beat the Milwaukee Bucks on their home court behind 36 points from Terry Porter. What a game! Way better than the lost to the Jazz on November 29th of the previous year, when Karl Malone and John Stockton combined for 54 points. A travesty.

"It's not who jumps the highest -- it's who wants it the most" Buck Williams

by Fund A Mental on Jan 21, 2009 12:26 PM PST reply actions  

I always remember tough losses

followed by tough wins and then good wins and then losses and wins and terrible losses at the end. That’s about the same. Tough losses are the hardest to get out of my head though.

Last year we went into the 4th quarter w/ a double diget lead. LeBron scored like 20 in the 4th alone. He was having an otherwise mediocre(for him) night. Brandon probably feels responsible for that one.

SOphia

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...

by BlazerFan1 on Jan 21, 2009 12:27 PM PST reply actions  

Hugest Game-Related Memories:

—Blazers win Game 7 and the title in ‘77.
—Blazers lose Game 6 to L*kers in WCF in ’91
—Blazers lose Game 7 to Pistons in NBA Finals in ’90
—Blazers lose Game 7 to L*kers in WCF in ’00
—Perfect First Quarter in San Antonio in ’90-’91
—Blazers beat Spurs in Game 7 of WC Semi-Finals in ’90
—Blazers beat Suns in Game 6 in WCF in ’90
—Blazers lose Game 6 to Bulls in NBA Finals in ’92
—Blazers beat Jazz in Game 5 of WCF in ’92

I guess I remember losses slightly more than wins.

—Dave

by Dave on Jan 21, 2009 12:33 PM PST reply actions  

—Blazers lose Game 7 to Pistons in NBA Finals in ’90

Time to do a check on your internal RAM!

by Timmay! on Jan 21, 2009 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I remember a convincing sweep after returning to Portland.

But I don’t know who won the series. It’s all been blotted from my memory.

The cowards never started
The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers

by lukeyhere on Jan 21, 2009 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks for reminding me !

       Personal feelings . . .
1. 77’ win
2. 00’ Loss . . . intense pain – You didn’t have to Dave !
3. Everything else !!

It's GO time !

by walkoff41 on Jan 21, 2009 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

You've got to rank Game 4

of the 77 WCF right up there. Blazers sweep L@kers. Glorious series. Game 2 was pretty awesome, too, the Herm Gilliam “I am insane, and can throw anything up and it will go in” game.

I know you can put admiration in bags, because admiration is real, and tominhawaii says that everything that is real is measurable.

by jscot on Jan 21, 2009 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I loved that Herm Gilliam game

Glad I am not the only one.

For whatever reason that game is one that I won’t ever forget.

Game 7 of ’77 is my most memorable however.

"I saw him in the face" Sergio's quote on the latest alley-oop to Rudy.

by blazermaniac32 on Jan 21, 2009 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL

Game 2 in the Finals was a win, even though we lost on the scoreboard — we won the fight, and the series that night. Never forget that game.

Game 6 was pretty exciting, but game 7 has just completely faded from my memory. I’m glad both you and Dave remember it, though.

I know you can put admiration in bags, because admiration is real, and tominhawaii says that everything that is real is measurable.

by jscot on Jan 22, 2009 8:02 AM PST up reply actions  

You a 3rd Bass fan Ben?

ポートランド・トレイルブレイザーズ & 南カルフォルニア大学 トロージャンズ Fan

by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Jan 21, 2009 12:37 PM PST reply actions  

For coaches and players...

I hope they remember BOTH the wins and the losses – and what led to those results.

For me, I remember the wins about half as much as I’d like, and the losses about twice as much as I should!

by the_mad_nader on Jan 21, 2009 12:45 PM PST reply actions  

Losses, in anything

Even bowling last night. I had a bad game my first game and we lost by 15, I was pissed. I did really well the 3rd game and we won by 10, I was still pissed about the loss.

by Zaig on Jan 21, 2009 1:24 PM PST reply actions  

this season there have been 3 notably unlucky losses which were almost "flukes"

1-hedo turkoglu banks a 3 pter at the buzzer
2-steve blake misses 4/5 fts in the last couple minutes
3-brandon roy goes 3/10 at the ft line, the entire team goes 16/31 and we lose on OT

of course, houston might argue that brandon’s extra-long 3 pt shot which beat them was a fluke, though we’ve seen b-roy hit enough of those shots by now we might argue something more is in play besides luck. (outlaw and blake also seem to have some affinity for clutch shots).

do these even out? it seems like this version of the trailblazers, with brandon roy, has shown some advantage in super-close games. and i believe ive heard some stats that bear this out.

some of this mental toughness and poise must come from nate. this quality, filtered from nate and the coaching staff down through brandon (as well as outlaw and lamarcus at times, and steve blake) — this really may bode well if and when the team gets in the playoffs.

they may not be perfect, and they’re oh-so-young — but they’re not bad.

ignacio

by ignacio on Jan 21, 2009 1:35 PM PST reply actions  

Yao Ming getting fouled and making a long 2

Was almost just as lucky. I honestly thought the game was over when Roy broke Artest’s ankles for that jumper.

by Eventine on Jan 21, 2009 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I voted "other"

I remember big games better, regardless of the win or loss.

Within that subset of big games, I think I may remember the losses more.

My theory is that after a loss in a big game, I just sit around moping and thinking about why the Blazers lost and what they should have done in order to win. So I am concentrating on the details of the game more.

When they win a big game I am very happy, but I start to think about upcoming games and start dreaming about how this win gets them in better playoff position, or gets them deeper in the playoffs, etc. I don’t concentrate on the details of the game as much.

by unblindloyalty on Jan 21, 2009 2:20 PM PST reply actions  

I am young, so I don't have a memory of the great teams of the early 90's, just highlights

but for me, these stand out (Pre-Roy).

’00 WCF game 7.

I was Home Town Buffet with my family. We told the waiters that we were Blazer fans, and they updated the score for us for the entire time. They would come to our table and tell us “Portland is up by 5,”Their up by 11" They’re up by 15!" They’re up by 9." ’They’re up by 4."

I was 8, and while I was getting fries, he comes to me and tells me the Blazers were loosing. That was one of the worst days of my life.

2. I don’t get to go to too many games. But there was on that stuck out. It was the first year of Portland’s streak of not making the play-offs. I was at the game and it was against the Celtics. What I remember about that game was Portland scoring the first 22 points of the game. That was awesome.

3. Some random game on the road against the Bucks. Both Damon and Pippen made clutch threes at the buzzer at the end of regulation and the end of overtime.

by thomasikehara on Jan 21, 2009 2:49 PM PST reply actions  

Ugh

Your number 3 reminded me of a negative.

Elliot from the Spurs draining TWO threes on us, one while he was levitating over the end line.

by Zaig on Jan 21, 2009 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

celtics game

I also went to that Celtics game, and I remember the crowd giving the Celtics a mocking fake cheer when they finally scored their first points late in the first quarter.

The best part for me was that I was at the game with a college buddy from Massachusetts who was a huge Celtic fan. He was wearing Celtics gear, and was very embarrassed. Good times.

by unblindloyalty on Jan 21, 2009 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

So I chose WINS but.....

I may have made the wrong choice. Because the ones that I remember CLEARLY are some of the painful losses……Kobe hitting a three at the buzzer to beat our homers….the meltdown in the 2000 WCF against the Lakers…..etc.

As a broad generalization, people tend to remember positive events more than negative events. But when it comes to fandom and our Blazers in particular, we may have that reversed.

by antediluvian on Jan 21, 2009 3:04 PM PST reply actions  

I have to say ....

…. uh, what’s the question again?

hakkaa päälle !

by timg56 on Jan 21, 2009 3:05 PM PST reply actions  

Tough to call

I’ve seen some great games and wins. I suppose I’d have to go loss though. The problem is that it’s a single loss that overshadows every other game the blazers have ever played. The taste of complete undeniable victory snatched away, crinkled up and tossed into the jaws of defeat while quivering with the knees.

I’ve seen other losses and other wins and honestly, NONE has seared it’s memory deeper than that game. A game I was watching at home when I was too sick to move, didn’t eat for five days, didn’t think it was possible to feel sicker, and I did when the fourth quarter started and i could tell… TELLL the blazers were scared and they were going to lose the game.

Hopefully the Blazers get a chance to rewrite that memory, because all other games were just games. that’s the one that counted the most. Beyond the Lakers would have been the light snack in the pacers and complete victory. That was the only game that mattered. The others weren’t championship winners, they were simply games… with dead crows.

Greg Oden, where posters happen.

by ratbastird on Jan 21, 2009 3:17 PM PST reply actions  

Close games I remember vividly

Blowouts I tend to forget.

"When I have the ball, I experiment." #5

by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 21, 2009 4:25 PM PST reply actions  

I'd have to say that

this year, apart from the tough losses (Clippers, Magic), the game that I am going to remember the most is Roy dumping down 52 on Phoenix. I don’t know if I’ve ever had as much fun at a game as I did at that one.

I did miss the Rockets game, though, and I’m going to guess that was even more nuts.

by futurehorse on Jan 21, 2009 5:36 PM PST reply actions  

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