Pre-Gameday Open Thread: Cavs vs. Blazers
by Dave on Jan 21, 2009 11:46 AM PST
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PrintSince this game will generate a lot of interest we're going to use this post as a clearinghouse for game-related talk up until game time. Enjoy, but please do not use this as a de facto Junk Drawer. This thread is for on-topic stuff about tonight's game.
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Anyone think we can hold LeBron under 40 tonight?
Without Z and West, if we can hold LeBron in check, we could actually take this thing.
That's definitely the trick, isn't it?
First we need to hold him on the perimeter, and hope he misses shots. If Batum, Outlaw, LMA and whomever else can’t hold him, then he’s gotta contend with Oden.
One problem though. When Oden played against AI a few weeks ago, he just needed to breathe on AI, and the refs were whistling. Imagine how much slack they’ll cut Oden when guarding the chosen one.
Perimeter defense is definitely a key to this game.
grrm
“One problem though. When Oden played against AI a few weeks ago, he just needed to breathe on AI, and the refs were whistling. Imagine how much slack they’ll cut Oden when guarding the chosen one.”
>there were a lot of hard fouls on LeBron in the L*ker game that went uncalled. I won’t be surprised to see some compensatory pro-King officiating tomorrow.
That's the thing few realize....
LeBron doesn’t get alot of calls because of his size. It seems officials give defenders some benefit of the doubt when a 6-8, 260 freight train is coming through the lane. In alot of ways they are probably correct to do so…
by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Jan 21, 2009 10:29 AM PST up reply actions
That's the Shaq problem too
Shaq was so big and strong, that he could basically and-1 for any foul. Therefore, everyone had to foul him hard to stop him. Then he complained because he was getting beat up, and that ticky tack fouls weren’t getting called anymore.
Hey, you gotta take the good with the bad, Shaq.
Anyone, with LBJ, you’ll have a hard time getting anyone to listen that he’s actually getting too few calls. It’s a superstar league, and the select few get a big advantage. It’s just how it is, and I think most fans accept that.
We watched LBJ take 4 steps on his way to a layup to win against us last year (I’m not even going to list what LBJ would call the move). I think he’d sacrifice that foul he thought he deserved, to get the layup that he traveled on.
oden is hacked a lot as well
and if he’s not having a good game, these are noted as “strips”
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If those two double team LeBron,
and the other four Blazers match up against the rest of the Cavs, we should be in good shape. We’ll be taking technicals for 6 men on the court, but I think we’ve already shown that that is a good strategy. – Elgin
If you smile at me I will understand, because that is something everybody everywhere does in the same language. - Crosby/Stills/Kantner
I think it is possible, but it will require doubles maybe triples
Lets see we put LMA, BRoy and Batum on LeBron and use the twin towers as goalies – what do you think?
Would be interesting to watch huh?
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by LaMarvelous on Jan 21, 2009 12:11 AM PST up reply actions
outside of wallace
this team has some good 3pt shooters. double teaming on the outside might come back to haunt us.
watch out for boobie!
It would be nice if he went off for big number again wouldn't it!
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by LaMarvelous on Jan 21, 2009 12:12 AM PST up reply actions
He's been doing that well enough on his own
Hopefully he can get back on track with a breakout game. I have to imagine he’ll take Lebron’s presence as a challenge to step it up after a few bad games.
Let’s start with free throws. Baby steps.
I'l second that motion on the free throws! We gotta get better with those
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by LaMarvelous on Jan 21, 2009 12:14 AM PST up reply actions
i only
want to see roy score 40 when the rest of our team is struggling. roy scoring a ton isn’t a priority for me since it seems like when he has huge scoring games, its bc the rest of the team is playing poorly and he has to pick up the extra slack.
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by Philthyanimal on Jan 21, 2009 1:52 PM PST up reply actions
They have the #1 defense in the league.
When they really want to take out Brandon, they just have to put LeBron on him. Last year Roy struggled with James’ size, especially late. Roy probably won’t be getting clean looks inside, he’s going to need to kick out to the right guys at the right times.
They won't want LeBron on him the whole game
That will wear him out.
Roy needs to be aggressive anytime Lebron isn’t on him. Whoever LeBron is guarding needs to be moving constantly without the ball.
I know you can put admiration in bags, because admiration is real, and tominhawaii says that everything that is real is measurable.
that's the problem
Batum is probably our most credible defender to throw against LeBron, but whenever he’s in the game, James will have the luxury of having about a quarter of an eyeball on him and the other 7/8ths devoted to patrolling the passing lanes and pinching down for monster weak-side help blocks. I think we’re gonna see a lot of Travis tonight, and probably some Ike too.
by BlazersOrBust on Jan 21, 2009 8:38 AM PST up reply actions
LeBron outweighs Batum by 100 lbs
That will be a difficult matchup for him. – Elgin
If you smile at me I will understand, because that is something everybody everywhere does in the same language. - Crosby/Stills/Kantner
Where's Ime Udoka when Portland needs him?
Yet, rhetorical question aside, Nicolas Batum definitely isn’t bulky enough to effectively guard LeBron James in man-to-man situations. At any rate, though, It’ll be a very tough matchup for whoever gets the assignment on James.
LeBron is a Karl Malone
who moves like Chris Paul.
No one can guard him effectively… there are only a few players in the league of the same body type/athleticism. Gerald Wallace comes to mind.
Roy has the best chance of stopping him a little, but that means sacrificing his offense.
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
Roy has been a terrific defender in crunch time situations
Against Joe Johnson, ‘Melo Anthony… and I think he could do a decent job on LeBron. But you’re right, his offense would seriously suffer.
no way
would i put batum against lebron. batum would get murdered.
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by Philthyanimal on Jan 21, 2009 1:53 PM PST up reply actions
Are you kidding me?
Batum is easily our best wing defender. The only other player who might have more success guarding Lebron is Roy; and that would wear him out.
Batum can hit the open three well enough to keep LBJ from sagging too much.
best wing defender = yes
but he still gives up 100 lbs to lebron.
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by Philthyanimal on Jan 21, 2009 10:35 PM PST up reply actions
remember he might get extra rest tonight becuase they play Denver tomorrow
I have a feeling they see us as the easier of the two games to win
This is what Lucas would do. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0aPkIE2qK0
by 123_G.O._RipCity on Jan 21, 2009 1:21 PM PST up reply actions
Oh wait I screwed up
For some reason I thought they had a back to back but I was wrong
This is what Lucas would do. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0aPkIE2qK0
by 123_G.O._RipCity on Jan 21, 2009 1:23 PM PST up reply actions
Not true - he was gassed against the Lakers and the Bulls
did you see some of the TO’s he committed against the Bulls? Including the critical play where he dribbled off his leg? That’s what tired players do
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"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Jan 21, 2009 3:00 PM PST up reply actions
Lebron James does not get gassed... he gets even.
Lebron James doesn’t throw up if he drinks too much. Lebron James throws down!
Lebron James ordered a Big Mac at Burger King, and got one.
Lebron James doesn’t bowl strikes, he just knocks down one pin and the other nine faint.
It takes Lebon James 20 minutes to watch 60 minutes.
Lebron James can touch MC Hammer
Icy-Hot’ is too weak for Lebron James. After a workout, Chuck Norris rubs his muscles down with liquid-hot MAGMA
Lebron James visited the virgin islands…. they are now known simply as the islands.
RUDY > MJ
by myemic23 on Jan 21, 2009 4:12 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Chuck Norris rubs down Lebron James with liquid-hot magma?
Now THAT I’d like to see.
Rudy, Rudy, Rudy,
Roy, Roy, Roy!
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- Elgin
If you smile at me I will understand, because that is something everybody everywhere does in the same language. - Crosby/Stills/Kantner
this is as good a chance to beat the Cavs as we could hope to have
They are in a mini-slide and are missing 2 key players. We’re missing 2 starters also, so I guess that’s more or less a wash.
Anyway, I’d give us about a 40% chance to win this one
Boomshakalaka
that's about right
and that ain’t that bad.
lately when outlaw has a good game, it’s been very good — by which i mean it includes some offensive rebounds and putbacks and getting to the line, blocked shots out of nowhere, and aldridge has been shooting over 50% in january, plus hitting the boards more… and rudy-floor game has been very nice, not all of which shows up in statistics… so if oden doesnt get in early foul trouble, and roy comes back a bit, well — we’re a formidable team, even if our defense isnt all there yet, we just have a lot of weapons, a lot of unpredictable players who at any time might go off.
ilgauskas being out is a big loss for them, as he can score and hes mentally very steady, at 7’3" even if he can’t jump much he always hits the boards, he’s a bit like blake in how professional he is… but he’s not playing against us.
sergio and bayless arre playing better than i expected, they’re stepping up, either one might have a good game… bayless is more the threat to explode and really alter the flow but sergio when he’s confident really gets others involved going to the hoop.
40% chance to win means, to spell it out, we would beat them 4 out of 10. that’s with all our rookies and inexperience. that’s really pretty decent odds.
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Significantly overrates them
Ilgauskas hasn’t played since the first of the year. They are 11-8 on the road, but since he went out, their road results look like this:
Lost to Washington 77-80. Z out.
Won at Memphis 102-87. Z and Wallace out.
Lost at Chicago 93-102. Z and Wallace out, West only 11 minutes.
Lost at LA 88-105. Z and West out, Wallace only 20 minutes.
Even with our injuries, we’re a significantly better home team than Washington and Chicago.
These guys were really tough on the road when healthy (10-5 before Ilgauskas got hurt), but they are very beatable right now, even if Wallace is back up to speed. I rate it as about a 75% chance.
It would be about 20% in Cleveland, probably.
Off-setting injuries tend to favor the home team — your backups and role players tend to come up with the big games at home more frequently than on the road. And I really like our matchups down low.
I know you can put admiration in bags, because admiration is real, and tominhawaii says that everything that is real is measurable.
I worry about them because of LeBron and their three-point shooting
we are not good at stopping penetrators, and LeBron penetrates like few others. A drive and kick to an open Williams or Gibson or Pavlovic could mean a long night if they get hot (think: Philly game). Also, I worry a bit about Varejao and Wallace. Our rotations, and our backfilling behind rotators, is so poor that they could make hay cleaning up the offensive boards.
I’m also worried about Andy Varejao flop flop flopping Greg into 5 fouls in 4 minutes.
Am I a bad person for wishing a minor injury on LeBron during the Laker game? Very minor, just enough to miss one game
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"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Jan 21, 2009 9:21 AM PST up reply actions
i'm worried about both of those points too.
but hopefully the blazers as a whole can ratchet up their D, Nate will probably switch to zone to try to throw off their outside shooters at some point, I really, really want to see Oden exploit an ill Wallace and Sideshow.
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Good teams have a 20% chance
especially with their injuries.
I know you can put admiration in bags, because admiration is real, and tominhawaii says that everything that is real is measurable.
I'd like to think it's higher than 40%
maybe with our injuries, you’re right. Still, at the RG, I’d like to think it’s 50-50.
if he shoots under 45% and average from behind the 3 point line and dosen't get to the line very much i don't care how many points he gets
30 points on 40 shot attempts and less than 6 assists would be great. I’m worried about Mo getting his groove from outside, we have a lower FG % (45) average, than our oppents FG% (46) average, weaksauce. I’m afraid they will work us inside out, lebron kicking out to a wide open Mo with no defender on him, i can already see it, NOOOOO!!!
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I hope James scores 100 and the Blazers win
He is on my fantasy team.
"When I have the ball, I experiment." #5
you are greedy
outside LBJ and Mo who else do they have left to score, Wally?
by Peteyhasnohead on Jan 21, 2009 12:16 AM PST up reply actions
Going with 21 year old my son!!!
I am so pumped up!!! Get together at half time anyone???
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start a fan post
i’m down. lets get a group to meet up.
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by Philthyanimal on Jan 21, 2009 1:54 PM PST up reply actions
Sorry
flu bug got me bad, the son went with his GF. I’m going with another son Saturday vs. the Wiz….
There is probably no more terrible instance of enlightenment than the one in which you discover your father is a man — with human flesh.
Paul Muad'Dib - Dune (Frank Herbert)
My Translation: My Dad is a dude just like me, and my sons are dudes like me also. I love that.
Season Tix: Section 315, with my sons
Who will guard LeBron
I read someplace that Batum and Roy will but I don’t believe it.
I'm a Blazers fan and If you ban me from your blog, I'll sue you!
Please don't feed the trolls.
God forgives, tominhawaii doesn't.
Well, it's true
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by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 21, 2009 1:59 AM PST up reply actions
My question is how well Rex and Serg will guard Lebron after they switch in the pick and roll, because both will.
Sergio + Rudy = 16
Sergio + Bayless = 16
Batum 8+8=16
Oh Snap!
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Please don't feed the trolls.
God forgives, tominhawaii doesn't.
Yes.
I think the “Rex versus Serg” debate should be resolved in favor of who can defend centers better.
Sergio + Rudy = 16
Sergio + Bayless = 16
Batum 8+8=16
by amlmart1 on Jan 21, 2009 8:15 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
ROY NOT A GOOD IDEA !!!!
BRoy will be worn down on D-FENCE and that will take away from his needed offense Batum and Travis should be on LBJ. The most important thing is to shut down the other players.
Blazer’s by 2
"The idea is not to block every shot. The idea is to make your opponent believe that you might block every shot." - Bill Russell
Hmmm
I could either do my homework for class on thursday, or go get beers and watch this game…..
This is going to be a tough decision guys
not to get off topic but get beers and watch the game
just drink a red bull cola afterward, i had one the other night, they have coca leaf in them.
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I think homework and V8 would be the healthier option.
"What's that, some kind of hamburger?"
--Bo Outlaw on being asked how he felt about recording his first triple double.
You know what would be cool
If there was some way we could all predict the outcome of the game and if we did a good job, say for like a month, that we could win a prize.
I'm a Blazers fan and If you ban me from your blog, I'll sue you!
Please don't feed the trolls.
God forgives, tominhawaii doesn't.
Don't bother Tom
with real life.
I know you can put admiration in bags, because admiration is real, and tominhawaii says that everything that is real is measurable.
This is the kind of idea which causes jealousy and divides friends.
Thankfully we are in goof hands.
Sergio + Rudy = 16
Sergio + Bayless = 16
Batum 8+8=16
I don't know
if “goof hands” was intentional or not, but either way it’s hilarious.
I know you can put admiration in bags, because admiration is real, and tominhawaii says that everything that is real is measurable.
oh I know what you're talking about!
it’s that ESPN thing….you know….where if you pick 25 things in a row correctly you win 100,000 dollars. That must be what you mean. Must be
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
espn has this
you can pick certain matchups (usually just the games with a narrow margin on the line) and if you get like 21 in a row picked correctly you get a million dollars.
Go to work Tom!
I can't even get a 0 in the jersey contest when I try
I'm a Blazers fan and If you ban me from your blog, I'll sue you!
Please don't feed the trolls.
God forgives, tominhawaii doesn't.
Two Words:
Greg.
Oden.
"What's that, some kind of hamburger?"
--Bo Outlaw on being asked how he felt about recording his first triple double.
total x factor tonight
quiet game from the big guy makes it seem like we’d have a tough chance pulling this one out.
I don’t see us losing if he tears it up again, though.
Exactly
is that you Ricey?
Sophia
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...
I think first one to a hundred wins this game
"What's that, some kind of hamburger?"
--Bo Outlaw on being asked how he felt about recording his first triple double.
by prezofdeath on Jan 21, 2009 10:33 AM PST up reply actions
lol
is their a stat for how many teams loose after getting to 100 first? My guess would be the 2007-08 Blazers or this years Pacers have the record in that category.
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what about the "loose"
come on now! you made me release my inner spelling cop
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by Fund A Mental on Jan 21, 2009 12:06 PM PST up reply actions
no necessarily
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
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shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...
that was six and two thirds
"What's that, some kind of hamburger?"
--Bo Outlaw on being asked how he felt about recording his first triple double.
Cut the rambling and get to the point
Oh wait……Lebron
:)
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by LaMarvelous on Jan 21, 2009 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
Go Trail Blazers!
"The mounting minde that climes the hauty cliftes...Intoxicats the braine with guiddy drifts, Then rowles, and reeles, and falles at length plum ripe" .--- From Thomas Hughes’ 1588 The Misfortunes of Arthur:
Good Morning Bedge-aholics
I’m pretty amped up for tonights game…. If our collective consciousness is finely atuned today, a win is more likely then not. I’m sending out positive signals all day… so have a day everybody and think Trail Blazers win!!!! (Twiggs—- this outlook should also make your upset stomach disappear.)
"The mounting minde that climes the hauty cliftes...Intoxicats the braine with guiddy drifts, Then rowles, and reeles, and falles at length plum ripe" .--- From Thomas Hughes’ 1588 The Misfortunes of Arthur:
I am doin my best to keep a positive outlook but the Cavs are tough.
aghhh
Sophia
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...
the cavs are tough
so were the Celtics…. I’m stoked…. Oo Oo Ah Ah …..
(OT) Hey, how’s the healing process going? Hope you are feeling better!
"The mounting minde that climes the hauty cliftes...Intoxicats the braine with guiddy drifts, Then rowles, and reeles, and falles at length plum ripe" .--- From Thomas Hughes’ 1588 The Misfortunes of Arthur:
Please Oden come through
Please oden come through…..Big Z isnt playing right? if Oden can come through with a big game again….in addition to LMA and Roy getting off, we have a good chance.
Go Blazers.
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that's the spirit!
"The mounting minde that climes the hauty cliftes...Intoxicats the braine with guiddy drifts, Then rowles, and reeles, and falles at length plum ripe" .--- From Thomas Hughes’ 1588 The Misfortunes of Arthur:
lets aim for keeping them out of the game
I still feel sore from last year’s finale with cavs at Rose Garden… Lebron is a bad guy to have against you when the game is close.
just an excuse he used for the loss to the bulls
on the jones they said he may have crabs, brilliant.
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I don't know if I would compare
I haven’t seen Roy destroy a teams best defender and all of his friends that are all doing everything to just stop him.. I recall that Roy hasn’t been nearly as clutch when they throw enough people at him.. Lebron has this funny way of getting to the hole that appears unstoppable more often than not
It's because Lebron is like a bowling ball when going down the lane lol.............
All I meant it as is that we have a guy we can go to when the game is close also
and he is great
but yes.. Lebron is a bowling ball.. I think Roy has definitely developed into a guy who can certainly come up big in clutch situations..
but Lebron at the end of games is scary because you realize how difficult it is to stop him from driving right through a packed lane to the hoop..
we should have shav
instigate a fight with lebron before the game…both players get kicked out. Blazers 1 Cavs 0. Or pull a Robert Horry style cheapshot (against Nash) on lebron.
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by Philthyanimal on Jan 21, 2009 1:58 PM PST up reply actions
i know you're kidding, but...
if we ever did anything like that, that’s the day I stop being a Blazers fan.
some things are more important that winning.
by LicketyBrindle on Jan 21, 2009 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
I'll never stop being a Blazer fan
I sat in the RG five years ago when no one was coming with a “heckler” sitting behind me. It was painful. I’ll always bleed red and black.
if no one was there then why didn't you switch seats?
and Phil you’re my kind of fan
why not cause the opposing team to fear us?
it’s a good idea that, for some reason, no one wants to use
I've been a season ticket holder for 20 years.
I was taught to sit in my assigned seat. I don’t jump around like you young whipper-snappers.
Especially early in games
My brother and his friend got to a game late this year only to find people in their seats so he just looked at them and asked if they were in the right spot. He said they looked pretty sheepish as everyone around watched them get up and head back to their own spots.
ya and it's annoying because I've found people in my seat before
but back then I remember whole sections were empty
plenty of places to sit
Blazers only have
one guy that would have guts enough to push Lebron and he sits on the bench. That would be Coach Maurice Lucas, “The Enforcer”.
Hay, does anybody remember ...
that PTB “fan” who would “Oo oo oo oo oo oo oo oo oo oo oo oo oo oo oo oo oo” (not sure how to spell it but its the noise indians (native Americans) make when they hand to mouth in quick repeated succession) several times during the games. It was so embarressing I felt sorry for the people around him.
"The mounting minde that climes the hauty cliftes...Intoxicats the braine with guiddy drifts, Then rowles, and reeles, and falles at length plum ripe" .--- From Thomas Hughes’ 1588 The Misfortunes of Arthur:
i dont think you can
at least i’ve never seen em on sale. anyone else think the selection at the fan store is horrible at the RG? i can never effing find Rudy stuff in medium. the blazers are doing themselves a huge disservice by not stocking items.
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by Philthyanimal on Jan 21, 2009 1:59 PM PST up reply actions
its very few and far in between then
i’ve scanned all the swingman jerseys and the t shirts and there is never any Ms…usually just XLs.
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by Philthyanimal on Jan 21, 2009 10:35 PM PST up reply actions
Tom Had a Randolph 42 jersey made that looks pretty good
of course he hasn’t seen it yet….sorry again Tom …..tomrrows mail…
"..[Travis Outlaw] could jump, grab a rafter, eat a sandwich, and then dunk.."
tmundal 12/30/07
if Batum successfully takes a charge
I’m waiting to see if he gets up
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Mhm, wonder if they already have met in youth teams
Probably not, LeBron is too old ;)
But Nic played B-Rex, Mayo, Rose, Love, Singler, etc. before.
Im not agreeing w/ Nate's decision to start Nic on Lebron
Nic is going to get squashed. Brandon is the next best defense, maybe Brandon and Batum?
Brandon must have a good night. LaMarcus must have a good night. And preferably Rudy AND Travis show out off the bench . We need everyone on point in order to get a win. Much like the Boston game, turnovers need to be super low, energy super high and defense must be superb.
I am so over Lebron by the way. He’s a great basketball player but for some reason he gets on my nerves. I dont hate him like I hate Kobe but he’s def. annoying.
Go Blazers. . .
Sophia
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...
Blazers can't guard Lebron
He’ll spend the night at the free throw line. If Batum just looks at him he’ll be whistled. This is one game were they really miss Martell. Portland needs to keep the other Cav’s in check and hope Lebron doesn’t go off for big numbers.
it dosen't really matter
because he prematurely returned before, and blake will be out longer than they said, so you can’t really trust return dates it seems.
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Start Batum on Lebron
If he’s going to learn how to swim in NBA waters its just as well he get thrown in the deep pool… He’ll do fine, besides nobody can really stop the guy anyways, its going to have to be a total team effort (the scary part)
"The mounting minde that climes the hauty cliftes...Intoxicats the braine with guiddy drifts, Then rowles, and reeles, and falles at length plum ripe" .--- From Thomas Hughes’ 1588 The Misfortunes of Arthur:
I am also not on the lebron bandwagon
I don’t think his eddie murphy style commercials are funny…i hated the whole NYKs thing and now he is squashing all those rumors bc the Cavs are playing unbelievably…i hate how it seems that becoming a billionaire is a bigger goal for him than winning a ring…i also hate how he said he’d leave the nba if a euro team payed him 50 million. i’m glad we have brandon…he never says the wrong thing.
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by Philthyanimal on Jan 21, 2009 2:01 PM PST up reply actions
Meh
Lebron would never actually leave the NBA, regardless of the money. Even more than money that guys goal is to be the best in the world, he knows that in Europe he could never do that.
from the article i read
it seems like being a billionaire is a bigger deal to him.
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by Philthyanimal on Jan 21, 2009 3:01 PM PST up reply actions
Meh
Articles can skew things however they like. The guy wants to go to New York because it’s a bigger market, yes, BUT he also wanted another Star to go there with him so they’d be a title contender.
Now, the Cavs are dominating everyone in their path and Lebron seems a bit more content. Unlike some other star I can think of, Lebron will do anything to win.
lebron is a good dancer though
and i don’t care for him much… but he has moves (in his commercials)
ignacio
undubitably better then Kobe in the rock star commercial
just another reason to immensely dislike the guy
"The mounting minde that climes the hauty cliftes...Intoxicats the braine with guiddy drifts, Then rowles, and reeles, and falles at length plum ripe" .--- From Thomas Hughes’ 1588 The Misfortunes of Arthur:
I don't know...
Brandon shouldnt guard LBJ early or he might get into foul trouble. This is Nic’s chance to shine. He starts because of defense and hustle and LBJ can be guarded. Nic needs to move his feet, keep his hands off James, and focus on not letting James penetrate. Godspeed young frenchman….
RUDY > MJ
Have faith
Batum has the attitude and he won’t back down even when he does get squashed..
I love the kid, but I agree with Nate here because I think Nic is our defensive stopper of the future and there is no reason to baby him (even if he looks 15).
I'm predicting overtime
I see us up by 2 with 8 seconds left. Lebron thinks about a three but then decides to go for a 2. He drives gets slammed by Oden (his sixth) and then makes both free throws.
Pryz comes in for OT and dominates with fresh legs, and working well with Bayless and Rudy. (Roy’s Hammie/Shoulder is too worn out to be much presence at this point. esp after a full game of being run over by lebron.)
Blazers by 4, 117-113
Basically, I see this as a game our bench needs to win.
by drexlerdreamer on Jan 21, 2009 10:25 AM PST reply actions
You might be right - or this could be like our last Boston game- we're gonna need to scrap
this game either way. We need a win badly.
by hotstuffdb22 on Jan 21, 2009 10:31 AM PST up reply actions
no kidding
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...
NEED a win?
I would love a win, but I don’t think I’d call this a need-to-win or must-win or whatever. We’re playing LeBron James. Leh-bruh-n James. Numba 23.
You expect to lose some games to the good teams. The C’s, Fakers, and Cavs. The wins are nice, but really shouldn’t be seen as MUST wins.
"What's that, some kind of hamburger?"
--Bo Outlaw on being asked how he felt about recording his first triple double.
by prezofdeath on Jan 21, 2009 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
Blazers need to make a statement
This is a game the Blazers need to win if we are going to be considered a contender. The national media will blow this game off if the Cav’s win. If the Blazer’s win they will pay attention.
we aren't a title contender
the cavs are a good team this year…but they are not the same measuring sticks that the celtics and lakers are. as far as “measuring” sticks go…we’ve defeated a lot of the perennial playoff teams with the exception of the lakers this year.
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by Philthyanimal on Jan 21, 2009 1:50 PM PST up reply actions
I beg to differ
The Cav’s are contenders and this is another measuring stick. If the Blazers make the playoffs you never know what may happen. If Oden suddenly blossoms, we are contenders. I know this is wishful thinking on my part (rabid Blazers fan), but the 77 championship team came out of nowhere to win the title.
beating boston
without our best player has proved enough this season for me. we’ve proven we can handle elite teams with brandon and without…losing tonights game won’t change my opinion about this team. thats why i don’t feel its a must win. i think greg having a big game against a quality center is a bigger question for me than beating the cavs. hell defending the pick and roll with success is a bigger question for me than beating the cavs.
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by Philthyanimal on Jan 21, 2009 2:09 PM PST up reply actions
Oden having big games
against quality centers. That would be a bust out for him and the Blazers. Can you imagine how good the Blazers will be if he becomes a 20 and 10 guy consistently? We could have lots of banners hanging from the ceiling.
yup
i think this whole city imagined that…thats why season tickets sold so well last year and the RG has been pretty much packed ever since. however the way that things have played out so far…i wonder if greg will ever be a 20 and 10 guy. not being the #1 option will make it tough…but he can be just as effective on the defensive end even he if doesn’t get the touches that yao and dwight get.
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by Philthyanimal on Jan 21, 2009 2:34 PM PST up reply actions
If he patents
a couple post up moves it could happen. I see the other guys looking him off. However that could change if they are confident that he can finish and maybe get the and 1. Time will tell. Personally, I like posting bigs up on the block. Kareem (greatest basketball player ever) was unstoppable with his sky hook and Wilt Chamberlain (2nd greatest ever) was unstoppable, period. I grew up watching Wilt. Nothing beats a great center.
according to my sources
Russell was the greatest player ever…
"The mounting minde that climes the hauty cliftes...Intoxicats the braine with guiddy drifts, Then rowles, and reeles, and falles at length plum ripe" .--- From Thomas Hughes’ 1588 The Misfortunes of Arthur:
ya
this isn’t necessarily a must win by any means. we’ve already beaten many of the teams we had losing streaks to this year (Suns, Spurs, and Detroit?), we’ve shown we can win without Roy, we’ve shown that we won’t back down to physical teams despite being soft. pretty much many of the major questions have been answered this year…right now i’d rather develop greg a bit more when given the chance.
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by Philthyanimal on Jan 21, 2009 1:49 PM PST up reply actions
Has there been even one game this season where you didn't say we needed to win badly?
It’s kinda like the chicken little thing.
lol
a win is nice…but this is hardly a must win game. besides that argument usually works in football not necessarily as much in basketball.
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by Philthyanimal on Jan 21, 2009 2:03 PM PST up reply actions
Or Lebron could drive the lane hit the bucket and get the foul
then covert the free throw and the blazers lose by one. . .
Sophia
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...
Or Lebron could drive the lane
bounce off the great wall of Oden and regain conciseness in the locker room then faint again when he finds out the foul was called on him!
Oooo, I like that one better :)
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I've been hoping for a while that he would regain conciseness
He used to be almost terse, and now he just drawls on and on…
by apatosaurusrex on Jan 21, 2009 2:01 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
conciseness actually works
"The mounting minde that climes the hauty cliftes...Intoxicats the braine with guiddy drifts, Then rowles, and reeles, and falles at length plum ripe" .--- From Thomas Hughes’ 1588 The Misfortunes of Arthur:
I'm remembering a certain Rockets game....
an all-star named Yao, and a legend name B-Roy…
by drexlerdreamer on Jan 21, 2009 1:34 PM PST up reply actions
Hopefully
this time nate puts Pryz in the game instead of leaving him on the bench like last year for the final play.
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by Philthyanimal on Jan 21, 2009 2:02 PM PST up reply actions
and hopefully if the cavs have one possession to win the game.
You don’t put Brandon Roy on an island trying to guard Lebron James. Double him please, don’t let him beat you…
RUDY > MJ
Can't wait for this for two reasons
1. This is a great matchup and should be quite the entertaining game.
and
(brag alert)
2. I’M GONNA BE AT THE GAME!!!
This will be my first in-person game since the Roy-Johnson duel at the end of the Atlanta game last season. It was a very nice Christmas present. :) It’ll be my first time seeing LeBron in person as well.
WIth Big Z out, this will be another opportunity for Mr. Oden to go to work and do his whole “ME BIG!!!! ME DUNK ON YOU!!!!” routine. Gotta work inside out on this team. I’d also like to see Aldridge work the post here as well, as Cleveland has no one who can shut down LMA one on one if he gets good position.
I also hope we see more of Bayless with Roy, and I’d love to see B-Rex get the start, but I don’t expect it.
Here’s to Shav getting 6 and 4 tonight in garbage time. ;)
Can anyone else tell I’m pumped for this game? CAN ANYONE ELSE TELL!?!?!?!?!?!!?!? DKFJL:KASDFJLPKSDJF:LJ
……sorry about that.
Yes! Yes! In the face!
I was at the last game and Lebron killed us in the last minute
Lets hope we get revenge for that loss tonight!
I just hope the whole team watched the Cavs-L@kers game
They have to make Lebron a jumpshooter for the scoreboard’s sake and for the sake of Greg Oden. Greg could give us a huge boost. The Cavs don’t have a post threat with Big Z out, so if Oden can stay out of foul trouble via Lebron, he should be able to put a good game together.
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
I agree with keeping Lebron away from the rim
…but can we keep him away from the line? Doubtful. He’s going to be aggressive right off the bat so I think it comes down to limiting Lebron’s playtime by having him pick up some charges. Brandon is great at stepping in and taking a charge at the last second so if the calls go his way, we might be able to limit Lebron’s play time. More likely, we’ll be conceding 15 plus attempts from the line to James tonight, but if we can keep him from finishing at the rim and keep him shooting outside, that might not be too big of an issue. Also, if I were Oden I’d be very wary of trying to slap at the ball when James is driving as the refs will lean toward calling that a foul when it’s the King in question, and picking up his standard 1st quarter 2 fouls would be devastating.
"His name is Jeremiah Johnson and they say he wanted to be a mountain man." -Neil Everett
by SabonisBonus on Jan 21, 2009 12:11 PM PST up reply actions
Lebron will get his points
it’s a given. Broy needs to come out aggressive, driving the ball to the rim as only he can do. He must make Lebron and the Cav’s work at defending him. He needs to score consistently and or get to the line. This isn’t a night that he can lay back and feed whoever he feels is “hot”. This is his night to shine. If Broy scores big points we have a shot at winning. Coach needs to make sure the ball is in his hand’s the majority of the time.
Yes, Roy needs to be aggressive and try to match Lebron's scoring
TRY
but, if our shooters aren’t hitting, well….all the Brandon Roy in the world isn’t going to help. They’ll just pack the lane and watch us throw up bricks and compete with the shot clock. Gotta hit those open shots to keep the Cavs honest.
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
Brandon is a all-star!
He’s our Lebron. He’s that good. Yes, your correct, other Blazers need to bring it also. But, this game is really about Brandon vs. Lebron.
I really hope we don't give him 15 attempts
he normally gets 9 or 10. If he has 15 attempts I guarantee that Oden is in foul trouble. Oden needs to move his feet and not lower his arms an inch. This would be a game where it is just fine to let a few go. I mean it’s Lebron, he probably will convert the layup even if you do foul him.
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
Your officials tonight
Monte McCutchen, Tony Brown and Derek Stafford
Any signifigant history with them?
"His name is Jeremiah Johnson and they say he wanted to be a mountain man." -Neil Everett
by SabonisBonus on Jan 21, 2009 12:12 PM PST up reply actions
Devil Incarnate?
does that mean with beef….oh wait!!….that would be “Devil con carne”…sorry
Larry (the new Johnnie Cochran) Miller: "If we get screwed, we're gonna sue"
by 92wastheyear on Jan 21, 2009 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
and no Bennett Salvatore or Violet Palmer!!!!! Sweeeeeeet!!!!!!!!
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This Signature is dedicated to GREG ODEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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grrr
Violet Palmer is one of the worst Refs…damn equal opportunity. They killed 2 birds with 1 stone with her.
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by Philthyanimal on Jan 21, 2009 1:45 PM PST up reply actions
Hmmm
Monte McCutchen calls a higher percentage of fouls against the home team (51.6%) than any other ref.
thats bad news for Oden I fear
"The mounting minde that climes the hauty cliftes...Intoxicats the braine with guiddy drifts, Then rowles, and reeles, and falles at length plum ripe" .--- From Thomas Hughes’ 1588 The Misfortunes of Arthur:
Here is my dilemma
Do I:
Stay up til three to watch those beautiful Blazers and go to school three hours after the match.
Or
Go to sleep and miss one of the biggest games of the year
I say stay up unless:
1. You have a test
2. There are consequences for occasionally falling asleep in class
3. You’re not a real fan
Ok, I’m just fooling with number 3. School is important. Yay learning!
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
These are the time that test a man's loyalties
I suggest Red Bull
by drexlerdreamer on Jan 21, 2009 1:35 PM PST up reply actions
Or just nap till 3 then wake up for the game and nap again after... :)
That will help you get your full 8 hours of sleep.
by drexlerdreamer on Jan 21, 2009 1:38 PM PST up reply actions
I think I'm going to say
To hell with binomial expansion and to heaven with the Blazers.
Now to fill my two later thermos with coffee.
by BeloHorizante on Jan 21, 2009 5:00 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
We will win this game for one reason:
I’m going to be at the game.
We’ve only lost one game in the last two season that I’ve gone to a game, and that was this year against Orlando.
Maybe somebody should buy me season tix so we win all of our games, how’s that sound?
Meh
There are people with better records than you though. Anyone who got the “Oden Package” has seen Portland go 5-0 so far this year. Tonight is the 6th game for us so hopefully we can keep it going.
Oden package wins include a pair of 1 point victories, 32 and 42 point victories, and a normal 10ish point win.
Oden package?
Was that real ticket combination or just the game where Oden has played well?
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
Yeah 11 game packages
You could get Oden/Roy/Aldridge/Weekend packages. (They got uncreative with the last one.)
We went with Oden because it didn’t have a preseason game like Roy/Aldridge did. So far, Oden hasn’t had a great game at any of his package’s games. He’s some some decent ones, but hopefully tonight he goes off!
Oddly enough, Oden package was going to have his first home game as a Blazer, but he got hurt and missed it as we all remember. As it turned out, his first game back (at home) happened to be the 2nd game on the package, so we got to see his first home game like we were supposed too!
Free Coaching Tips to Nate: How to handle the pick and roll trap
When Roy gets doubled off the high pick and roll. Send LMA to the free throw line to receive the pass. Have the screener(Oden) roll to the hoop for a 2 on 1 opportunity.
For visual help, watch 4th quarter Lakers – Cavs game.
BINGO, BANGO, BONGO
I think cleveland is a team we can dominate
The blazers play to their competition lets be serious. And we tend to play well against teams with unbalanced talent IE one star player, and there is no bigger star than Lebron. There is also no other star with such a weak supporting cast. if we play good Portland D and contain (not stop this impossible) Lebron then i think we win by at least 8.
my two cents
i hope so
it would make my day :)
Sophia
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...
IM SO EXCITED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just had to share that
Sophia :)
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...
Gotta Run
Nic needs to get out and run…
I think the Cavs will try to rest LeBron by playing him on Nic defensively, let him come from off the ball for steals and blocks.
If Nic can get out on the break a few times, L will have to play him…
Gameplan
If the Cavs but LBJ on Batum, just let the kid run from baseline to baseline the entire game!
Don't you think James will guard Roy?
People know we like to run a whole lot of our O through Roy and with James being a solid defender (what, didn’t you read the paper?) I think that the Cavs put LeBron on Brandon.
Catalina-Wine-Mixer.
someday I will research and write a fanpost about the kgw curse
"When I have the ball, I experiment." #5
by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 21, 2009 5:29 PM PST up reply actions
Have fun everyone
And if you’re going to the game, cheer, okay? It helps.
I gotta go to a meeting in Arcadia, which is like 20 miles away or so, which means it will take me 2.5 hrs to get there. So, off I run.
I hope we win, because I am a homer. AND I WILL NOT REPENT.
We’ll need to be on our game to win this game, and hope Lebron doesn’t get hot from 3— because if he hits his jumper, he is unstoppable. Luckily for us, his jumper stinks, except for the last minute of last year’s home game against them. But enough of that memory.
GO BLAZERS. Got the headband and the t-shirt and the game shorts on underneath normal pants, so if we lose it isn’t my fault. What are YOU doing for your Blazers to help them win?!
Take care everyone, I am DVRing.
Mortimer
You have a headband on under your pants?
"When I have the ball, I experiment." #5
by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 21, 2009 5:24 PM PST up reply actions
Do you guys remember
that LeBron’s second career game was in Portland? We had Damon guard him the whole game… from what I remember he did a very good job.
No, I don't
Because it was his third career regular-season game. :P
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=231029023
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=231030021
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=231101022
Brandon Bass is a free agent.
Smells like a KP deal. Pick up the guy for 4-5 million a year, backup PF is taken care of.
There are a lot of teams lusting for him. And he will make more than $5M, I think...
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
The biggest problem being that Dallas and PDX are looking like the teams in a death match for the 8 seed, so they won't be trading with each other...
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
He isn't to the level of Millsap.
Probably isn’t even a full MLE guy.
We could do a sign and trade with them if it proved too difficult. Apparently some people around the league really like Ike Diogu.
Tonite you are all
NY,NJ and Buck fans.
by southern oregon on Jan 21, 2009 5:48 PM PST reply actions
and Rockets
Other than the Lakers, I dislike the Jazz most of all.
TRADE URGENCY
I pose this to you all. Does anyone think we can bring anyone of significantly better talent then what we already have? I’m talking reality over theory here. Trust me i’m always thinking of ways to improve this team but by doing that right now actually subtract from the chemestry we all so value. I would have loved to have gotten chauncey when he was available but that ship has passed. Who would be worth the risk that is so valuable?
Hinrich is a big upgrade over Blake on defense.
He’s one of the few guys. Butler, Hinrich, Wallace… None of them are easy to get though.
yes on defense...but
overall hes not that much better to warrant giving up too much for him. had miles salary not come back on our books…things would be a bit different.
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by Philthyanimal on Jan 21, 2009 10:39 PM PST up reply actions
Hinrich
Agreed but by doing that do we stunt Bayless?
I guess my real question is what’s more needed? A proven vet or just more experience for the kiddies?
See, if you replace Blake with Hinrich
then you are able to have a veteran at the controls and continue to develop the young talent.
GIBSON TO LEBROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON
"shaq and zach randolph have the same trainer... "
best one liner i ever heard.
Is oden still clean shaven?
Cuz I fear the consequences if Oden’s beard collides with Ben Wallace’s fro
Brandon Roy is the Shawn Kemp of monogamy
-BE poster whose name I can't remember
liar
"What's that, some kind of hamburger?"
--Bo Outlaw on being asked how he felt about recording his first triple double.
Game thread is open
Brandon Roy is the Shawn Kemp of monogamy
-BE poster whose name I can't remember
Yeh but it's so boring. No one seems to be commenting over there.
"What's that, some kind of hamburger?"
--Bo Outlaw on being asked how he felt about recording his first triple double.
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