The State of the Bobcats
As a run-up to tomorrow's game we conducted a reciprocal interview with our friends at RufusonFire. You can check the other part of the piece over there.
BE: Give us the scoop on Raymond Felton. Is he as firmly on the trade block as is being reported? If so, why? And what are the 'Cats looking for in return?
ROF: Raymond Felton has no future on this team. As a point guard, he's got a lower ceiling than DJ Augustin, and he's too small to defend shooting guards regularly, but he's too valuable as a point to keep as a reserve on a rebuilding team. He'll get traded as soon as the Bobcats get even a semi-attractive offer, but it's no great loss if they simply let him go this summer. Larry Brown seems to be searching for a true center to back up Emeka, and possibly play minutes next to him, but no one's going to give up a decent big man for the 20th best point guard in the league. Hence, the inane Felton-for-Diop trade rumors floating about.
BE: Rumors have had Gerald Wallace also up for sale. Your assessment of the likelihood of that? Also how big of a factor are his injuries? Legitimate concern or overblown?
ROF: Since the team traded Jason Richardson, it's far less likely they'll trade Wallace. Along with Felton, he's the emotional center and soul of the team. I'm a big numbers guy, but I'm also big on having clearly identifiable goals when a team steps on the court, and without a reference point, someone that dictates the team's on-court agenda, it's that much more difficult to have a plan and execute it. For the past few years, Wallace has been that guy for this team, and as much as I love Emeka Okafor, starting over and building the team in his image isn't the most exciting prospect. While Gerald's not a perennial All Star, he's certainly good enough to lead a playoff team, and his contract is exceptionally reasonable when you compare his production to, say, Josh Smith and David West.
The injury concern isn't really an issue in the short term. Concussions are nothing to sneeze at, but Gerald has taken steps to protect himself, including using a mouth guard and taking a slightly more controlled approach to the game. It's difficult, because his game is predicated on barrelling around the court like a tornado, but he's very aware of his history, so he's reined it in a bit. It might be the cause of his precipitous drop in blocked shots over the past two and a half seasons. Longer term, I suspect he won't age very well because his style depends on brute speed and power, but he'll be fine over the rest of this contract.
BE: How are you liking Jordan as a GM so far?
ROF: Michael Jordan is either a horrendous executive or the unluckiest executive I've ever seen. It's worth noting that there's a lot of doubt over who actually calls the shots for the Bobcats, especially since they have three well-known basketball people with decision-making power: MJ technically has the final word as the Managing Member of Basketball Operations, Rod Higgins holds the title of GM, and Larry Brown is a coach who's always demanded input on personnel. So, we have to examine the kind of move that's made in order to determine who might be behind it, though I generally accept at this point that Brown is leading most personnel decisions. I don't talk to anyone on the inside, but my read on the situation is that Jordan has become a figurehead, and we'll sink or swim with Brown's demands. Ultimately, the worst thing about the Bobcats front office, however way the flow chart is actually organized, is that there is no apparent process to their decisions. Larry Brown feels something. MJ thinks something over. Higgins deals with the media. No matter what moves the team makes, the process feels lacking, as if they haven't really thought out what the hell they're doing.
BE: How about Larry Brown?
ROF: The best thing Larry Brown has done for the team is install a professional offensive system. Last year, Sam Vincent had the genius idea to run the ball through Emeka Okafor on the elbow, with everyone else cutting around him, even though Okafor's not a particularly good passer and it meant moving him away from the basket, where he's most effective. That's a huge upgrade. On defense, there's a similar effect. The Bobcats will put pressure on the opponent's point guard line to line, presumably to shave precious seconds off the available time on the shot clock. In-game, Brown has the unfortunate habit of overmanaging. He doesn't trust anyone on the team to make decisions, so he shouts out plays all the time, breaking the flow and rhythm. As good as they've been within Brown's system, this team's "natural" style is to play fast and loose with guys like Felton, Wallace, and Diaw, but Brown has them walk it up the court so he can stay in control.
BE: Where does Emeka Okafor fit into the franchise? He was once heralded as the cornerstone. Still true? How has his game developed since his first couple of seasons?
ROF: When Okafor signed his extension, it baffled me, because I thought it signaled that the front office didn't have a clear plan for what they wanted the team to be. His game seemed incompatible with Gerald Wallace's, since Emeka is suited to grinding out possessions and Wallace wants to outhustle the opposition each time down the floor. Okafor seems destined to play for Greg Popovich, in that he's always at full throttle, always under control, never yaps, and generally goes about his borderline All Star business without drawing extra attention to himself. The biggest change in his game this season, and it's a huge improvement that no one in the mainstream press covering this team has mentioned, is that his offensive efficiency is way up this year. He's playing the same great defense and scoring the same points, but doing it with one and a half fewer shots per game. Part of that is because he's no longer going soft to the hole. Last year, he gently dropped the ball through the basket when he went up for a dunk, or he'd try to loft it over the front of the rim, where he'd get jostled or blocked, and the ball would go the other way. This year, he's much more aggressive, and he's slamming 'em more often. In fact, he's among the league leaders in most dunks. The other part of his increased efficiency is that he's no longer relying on only two scoring moves. Previously, he could score if he got the ball directly under the hoop, or if he got the ball on the block he'd try a weak move into the lane, toss it up, and hope. He was relatively easy to defend if he was more than five feet from the goal. Now, if you leave him open up to fifteen feet away, he will hit the set shot. It's no Duncan bank, but it's enough for other bigs to worry about.
BE: The Richardson trade seems to be bearing fruit for Charlotte so far. Your assessment? What was the initial reaction to the move? Has that changed?
ROF: The outcome of the Richardson trade is still undecided. If they can trade Diaw for someone who expires in 2011 or earlier, I'll consider the Bobcats to have come out ahead, but if they can't, then they've messed things up pretty badly. If the goal is merely to get to the playoffs, they probably gave themselves a decent shot by trading Richardson for Diaw and Bell. However, they still would have had a decent shot if they had kept Richardson and drafted a starting-caliber power forward next year.
The casual fans all thought Richardson was the team's best player, though I tend to think he was the third best player in sum. We were both baffled, though. They because they didn't think we got enough talent in return, and I because I thought trading Jared Dudley and his miniscule contract was a crazy throw-in and because the contract situations are such it made no sense for Charlotte to consummate the deal.
Since none of these guys are going to make the Bobcats title contenders, the trade had to be about cap space. Richardson's $14 million expiring in 2011 was converted into $5 million per year through 2010 for Bell and $9 million per year through 2012 for Diaw. From Bell's money alone, the Bobcats won't have enough cap space in 2010 to offer a max contract, and why would anyone give up a $9 million contract that expires in 2010 for Diaw, a guy who's had exactly one semi-inspiring season and fifteen intriguing games for the Bobcats? If that's the master plan, they should have aimed for the summer of 2011, simply sat through Richardson's contract, tried to draft well, and when Richardson's deal expired along with Nazr Mohammed's, they could've offered a max contract to Carmelo Anthony or Pau Gasol to be the superstar supported by Augustin, Wallace, Okafor, and a role player or hotshot draft pick acquired in the interim.
BE: Besides the obvious (Kobe, LeBron, etc.) name one player you'd like the Bobcats to acquire and why.
ROF: The first thing the Bobcats need in order to be a title contender is a full blown superstar. No one on this team is that guy or likely will be that guy. Assuming one joins the team, he'll likely be a power forward or offensive-minded center, with Emeka taking the other big man slot, Gerald at the three, and Augustin at the one. To fill the two, I'd want one of favorite under-the-mainstream-radar guys, Mickael Pietrus. Dude plays solid defense at the two and three, shoots long distance, can fly to the rim, and is an all around great guy. Orlando paid their full MLE for him, so it's possible they'll decide they don't want to pay so much for someone with his skill set, but I'd gladly take him on as the final piece of a championship puzzle.
Thanks to David at RufusonFire for the information! Be sure to check out his blog between now and tomorrow's game.
--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)
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looking at charlotte's last boxscore
the starters all played very long minutes. raymond felton led the team in scoring with 23 and had 9 assists (only one turnover). gerald wallace at sf, boris diaw at pf, emeka okafor at c (nazr muhammad off the bench). raja bell at sg. they beat detroit 80-78.
one jumps out is that we’re a lot bigger than them, as well as deeper, and brandon can score at a level far above anyone they possess. however, raja bell will be guarding brandon, and when at phoenix slowed b-roy down.
will we outrrebound them? one imagines that will be key.
ignacio
I thought about Bell too.
He’s always seemed to have Brandon’s number, but the question then arises, do the bobcats have an answer for Bayless? If he’s able to tap into at least a little of the magic he brought against the Nets, I don’t see Felton or Augustin giving him much trouble when they defense him and I see Jerrd being able to lock either guy up man-to-man pretty well.
It’s going to be an interesting matchup.
the bobcats have
something resembling interior defense. Everyone in NJ was just beating their man and taking to the hoop. Pretty pitiful rotations.
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
I don't know what to do
I read the interview over there, and saw that the guy who runs the blog hopes that DJ Augustin’s ceiling is Damon Stoudamire. I feel like I should run back over there and warn him how awful that is, but I don’t wanna be a poo-pooher on a guy liking a promising rookie.
I think DJ will experience the same defensive problems Damon did (in the playoffs, year after year, being constantly exploited for his size), but I’d hope he becomes a much better playmaker and a lot less of a gunner. He seems like more of a PG than Damon did, that’s for sure.
In the interest of full disclosure, Damon is my least favorite Blazer, ever— not counting anyone who flipped off a home town fan or, uh, is guilty of sexual assault.
The 27 win season which was just Damon chucking horrible shots all game was the worst season ever.
I really hope, for everyone’s sake, DJ is a lot more than Damon.
If he is Damon, run away fast, and sell high.
Mortimer
You like Damon less than Juan Dixon?
Damon could at least score.
"When I have the ball, I experiment." #5
by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 16, 2009 3:41 AM PST up reply actions
I hate Juan Dixon
I hate hate hate Damon Stoudamire’s game more.
He was SUPPOSED to be good, and cost us a lotta playoff games with his defense and shooting. Juan Dixon is just Juan Dixon.
I hate ‘em both, don’t get me wrong, I ain’t getting soft. Damon is my least favorite “star” Blazer, ever. Him being local and overrated because of it makes things worse.
The main sewage line in my building just got clogged, and actual sewage water exploded from my toilet in the bathroom off of my bedroom, and spilled under the bathroom door and seeped into the carpet. There were cigarette butts (my upstairs neighbor smokes), dead fruit flies, feces, and pee that are not mine scattered across the floor.
I’d rather watch that sewage for 48 minutes than Damon Stoudamire.
“Hey, I got an idea! I’ll shoot a 3! And then I’ll be posted up by a 6’1” PG who had never posted up anyone in his life before, and he’ll score!" That is an excerpt from Damon’s daily diary, and it was copy and pasted 5 million times in his daily journal. Scientists researched the diary further, and found it to be the only thing Damon ever thought or accomplished in his career.
Mortimer
That stinks. Sorry Morty
…..heh….hehe…/cough
"When I have the ball, I experiment." #5
by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 16, 2009 4:04 AM PST up reply actions
He also had the defensive move of "hey a screen. I think I'll just stop here" down cold and patented
And Dave thinks our current guards have problems to fight through screens. Guess how much people would want to see Sergio traded if he was 5’10" :)
Well, people in Dallas thought the same thing about JJ Barea and he improved to even attacking the rim. He is still young though.
Why do you hate Juan Dixon?
That’s like hating Boumtje-Boumtje or Stepania! He sucked and he was never really expected to be anything more than mediocre…unless you thought that trade for Dixon was THE PIECE to take us from 21 to 26 wins in 2004!!
by BlazersOrBust on Jan 16, 2009 9:37 AM PST up reply actions
Those two hardly played
Juan Dixon started for us for a while, played major-ish minutes, took a lot of shots, ooph.
I more hate that sort of player, and every second Dixon was out on the court, a small part of me died.
Cute and loveable suckiness like Ha Seung Jinn or Stepania is one thing, 20-30+ minutes and starting for us and being just the most useless sort of player imagineable is another.
How. DARE. You. Defend. Juan. Dixon.
Oh ok, hating Juan Dixon is more funny, but that sort of player ain’t my type. I dislike Damon a lot more.
Mortimer
Juan had some moves
and he had the good kind of attitude, the type that said “I don’t care if you hate me, I’ll still stick a dagger in your side with a baseline jumper if you don’t respect me.” He was the only offensive threat for a while and he stepped up. But he never demanded the ball. I like guys like that.
Defensively he was never as bad as people made him out to be. Wiry, for sure, but he had quick hands and hustled.
"...we have so many experts who think that you have to play defense, you have to rebound, you have to be a possession coach, you have to execute. I just laugh. Explosive offense is not as intimidating as dominant defense. But it is scary when you don't know how to stop someone." - George Karl, Nuggets coach
Damon Stoudamire soured me on small PGs forever.
And when I see Sergio time and time again get into the lane only to miss a 2-foot shot, I’m like, “arrgggh! Damon-like! Trade this guy!”
by Badalona Baddie on Jan 16, 2009 10:22 AM PST up reply actions
Damon is your least favorite Blazer ever?
Are you serious? Damon was the starting PG and a key offensive weapon for a great Blazer team. Wow.
Boomshakalaka
Didn't like Damon either
He was a selfish gunner.
"...we have so many experts who think that you have to play defense, you have to rebound, you have to be a possession coach, you have to execute. I just laugh. Explosive offense is not as intimidating as dominant defense. But it is scary when you don't know how to stop someone." - George Karl, Nuggets coach
not going to argue that he was a great PG or an average defender
but he sure could score the ball.
Boomshakalaka
Nope
He was awful.
Sorry.
I wish you weren’t wrong but what can ya do.
If you love efficiency, surely you don’t love Damon?
Mortimer
PS: Most of the above are just funnin’ with ya, but I really don’t like Damon’s game. Scoring is cheap as chips in the NBA, and he wasn’t even that good at it. We’re always slightly-not-even-disagreeing-about-something so I’m making sure you know I’m funnin’, even if it ruins my funny.
For a guy who was supposed to be good, Damon was awful. I dislike Bonzi and Ruben more on a personal level, but Damon’s game was awful for the price, what he gave up, and how long we had him.
Damon was before I became a stat geek, and I admit I was a big Damon fanboy
but fyi his TS% during his best years with Portland were in LaMarcus territory, which is decent for a guard. Damon was admittedly painful to watch at times and had some really bad seasons.
I loved the guy though.
Boomshakalaka
Interesting take about Gerald Wallace that he will decline fairly fast once his athleticism starts to wane
Yet if we would trade for him, we could hope that Nic (or whoever out of Martell/Travis is not part of the deal) would have reached his “star level” once that is the case.
He should definitely decline as he ages
But, he’s only what, 26? He’s still 6 years from the Shaun Marion-esque regression because of age… but his game is definitely one that relies on athleticism, though he does it really well.
I worry more about his concussions and other injuries than I would about his age. If 26 is too old these days, I’ll pickle my grits my-SELF. Even if he falls off a cliff at age 30, 4 years of goodness is a good deal.
Any guy who makes a living off of hustle, great athleticism, and throwing his body around will always fade with time. He can hit a jumper, but not good enough to make it his bread and butter once he isn’t super athletic anymore. That’ll be a while from now though.
The only way we can get Wallace for a good deal is through some Larry Brown weirdness, but Larry Brown weirdness could really happen. If he’s not going well with Brown, any silly deal is possible. It all depends on who is really calling the shots, and how weird Larry Brown is being that specific hour and minute of the day.
Mortimer
Does he have a post game?
I didn’t watch that many Bobcats games this season, but his offensive rebounding prowess and aggressive play could mean that he could at least develop one if he hasn’t already. That could help him to extend his career on a high level playing maybe more at the 4 than the 3. It takes some time. Not even LeBron has a great one yet, and that guy can easily play PF even if most of his athleticism should be gone in many many years. Nic should get there, but in the meantime I would really like a guy like Wallace for the next years on the Blazers next to Roy to stop athletic wings from scoring on us while grabbing rebounds and raining a few points on them on the other side. Maybe KP can have some intern calling the Bobcats after every game to hear how Brown’s mood is right now :)
Forget Wallace. I know the perfect guy to play SF for us:
Martell Webster.
by MiledAnimal on Jan 16, 2009 8:51 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
+1
heck, +2
"...we have so many experts who think that you have to play defense, you have to rebound, you have to be a possession coach, you have to execute. I just laugh. Explosive offense is not as intimidating as dominant defense. But it is scary when you don't know how to stop someone." - George Karl, Nuggets coach
I like Martell and would like to keep him for the long run since he can back up two positions
But he hasn’t yet nearly shown that versatility or ability to defend. Or scored more than 30 points in a game like Outlaw for that matter. He also couldn’t dribble very well last year. I hope that has improved, but I’m not sure. So far he is more like a spot up shooter.
It's so frustrating that he's out this season
(I know he’s not out for the full season, but it’s starting to look like a safe bet he won’t be full strength until next year)
Martell looked like he’d worked hard all summer. and in the first preseason game, he seemed to be screaming “I’ve arrived”.
What a terrible time to go down with a foot injury.
Argh. Frustrating.
knowing lebron
it will take him a month to develop a proficient post game, another month and he’s in the top 10 PFs of the league, the jerk.
Activate Shavlik Randolph
In the question about
Jordan’s GM ability: who got terrible flashbacks to the three-headed monster running the Blazers before KP took over?
“Larry Brown feels something. MJ thinks something over. Higgins deals with the media. No matter what moves the team makes, the process feels lacking, as if they haven’t really thought out what the hell they’re doing.”
Plug in Patterson, Nash, and Pritchard and that describes the morass that was our front office perfectly. Gotta feel for the six Bobcats fans out there.
It's gotta be kind of depressing to be a Bobcats fan.
Let’s see:
1. Chintzy owner (well, until he grossly overpaid Okafor);
2. Inept management;
3. Players with middling-to-fair talent who never seem to quite put it together;
4. A tomb of an arena, usually half-full (my dad lives near Charlotte; I can attest);
5. Little community interest, especially compared to the Panthers and college sports.
by Badalona Baddie on Jan 16, 2009 10:25 AM PST reply actions
Thanks to both Davids
for excellent information. A very good exchange. – Elgin
If you smile at me I will understand, because that is something everybody everywhere does in the same language. - Crosby/Stills/Kantner

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