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why hate Travis?

After every loss someone (many someones) complains about how poor of a player outlaw is. At the least people seem to agree that TO has 'low BBIQ' and gets lucky when his shots are falling. I think this is flat wrong.

Outlaw-haters say he takes bad shots, never passes, has reached his ceiling, and has bad defense. All of these might be true to a degree. Many want outlaw involved in a trade for a "bruiser backup PF" 

others (maybe the same people) say we have a SF position problem. I don't see it. when Martell is back, we have 2 solid SF's: Batman and Webs. Many say this is going to leave Outlaw with few, if any minutes. I disagree. I think this will (or should) leave Frye and Diogu with no minutes. And probably Sergio too, once Bayless proves himself a bit more.

Does anyone else think that Outlaw should be our backup PF? Barrett and Rice always comment on how he plays best at the 4, not the 3, as he did last night. So why trade a huge offensive scorer (or at least threat) that we know works and loves this team (and is best friends with Broy) for a defensive player who most likely would never be able to score 32 for us? Defense is great and all, but even the best defensive players can't always stop their man. Why give up good chemistry, good 3pt%, unstoppable shooting (Yes it's unstopable... how many times does outlaw get blocked? he may take wild-looking shots, but he isn't making a (sometimes) decent % through luck. no way. I think people say outlaw has a low BBIQ because we're all so used to watching Roy, who is ALL BBIQ. Outlaw and roy are not opposites in this respect, however. Roy may think more about his moves because he has to; he cant jump over people. Outlaw can. Outlaw has confidence in his shot, and knows that no-one is going to stop him from getting off his shot. Roy has to outmaneuver,  outsmart, while Outlaw just jumps over people. Why do you think we went to Outlaw for the last two plays of that last game before Roy came back?

That being said he does take some shots that make us all scream. contested 20 footers with 14 secs on the shot clock... yeah. ugly.

Rebounding... outlaw can rebound. Is it possible that he rebounds better when playing PF? that seems logical to me because he's going to be faster and better at jumping that other PFs and is also usually going to be positioned closer to the basket. I'm not saying he will do well against Amar'e, Duncan, or KG... but who would? not many backup-cailber PFs in the world. Not many starting PFs either.

I think Outlaw is a good fit and that trading him would be a mistake. Who's with me? who still wants him gone?

 

 

 

 

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Trade Trout?
Trade him for the next offer that is decent... he must go
15 votes
Keep Trout forever!
53 votes
If he's involved in a good trade I won't mind but I'd rather keep him than not
126 votes

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by staylost on Jan 13, 2009 1:30 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

But I get really mad at contested jumpers with 14 on the clock...

For some reason I always think that he will stop doing those jumpers and he will get more voracious with bringing in the rebounds.

".. is gumby an alien?"

by staylost on Jan 13, 2009 1:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yezzur.

Outlaw kills me with those—too often he takes the ball out of the rotation for a bad shot with too much time on the shot clock and it makes me want to pull my hair out. Other times he clicks and can add the athleticism and explosiveness to the rotation that we need him for.

I don’t want to see him go unless it is a very good trade that makes the blazers much, much better. Sure he’s been in the league a while but remember how young he is.

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by ArbyOSU on Jan 13, 2009 1:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

i dont know what to think

On one hand…you have Trout’s contested jumpers that aren’t within the flow of the offense.

On the other hand you have Sergio’s uncontested 3s that are within the flow of the offense.

Both make me cringe…but I can’t decide what makes me cringe less.

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by Philthyanimal on Jan 14, 2009 1:09 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I would consider myself a "Travis hater"

But I don’t actually hate him. I just hate how he damages the team on the court. However, it looks like Nate and Trav had made some nice adjustments. When I made my certain post last week based on Trav’s +/-, the majority of his play came from the SF position. However, with some other numbers, the only area where Travis plays at an effectiveness above 0 is the PF spot. So, the move there was pretty smart. Also, Nate is the greatest motivator of all time, even if I have to say Fire Nate every time we lose.

by robrun2 on Jan 13, 2009 1:39 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Nobody hates Travis

I’ve been critical of Travis’s play at times, but I don’t hate him. By all reports he’s a great guy. He certainly belongs in the NBA and has some real talent.

My problem with Travis is that you don’t know what you’ll get game-to-game. Like a lot of young players, he doesn’t play with consistent effort. The fact that he’s not a young player — he’s in his 6th year — makes me wonder if he’ll ever turn into a guy who brings it every night.

You know what I hate? This sort of discussion, where if you criticize any aspect of somebody’s play, you’re labeled a hater.

by Hawthorne Wingo on Jan 13, 2009 1:42 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

100% agree

Travis is soo good and we all wish and hope that he can carry that beautiful play to the next game. However sure enough after a good night or two, he reverts back to the “get lost on D Travis” and “take random shots w/ 19 secs on the clock Travis” and “stand around Travis” . With all things considered, for a bench player, he is very good. However, as was apparent last night. We need him to play consistently tough and high energy Defense as well as take higher percentage shots that fit his style.
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by BlazerFan1 on Jan 13, 2009 4:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

couldnt agree more!

p.s. nice new pic Sophia

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by Blazermaniac77 on Jan 13, 2009 10:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Canzano

on Canzano’s “highlight” tape that they play during commercials…he mentions that Nate trusts a guy who makes 4 million to win a game for him…how many coaches in the NBA can trust a 4 million dollar player to do what Travis does? I’m not sure if he’s trying to stick up for Trout, or maybe in his own Canzanoish way he is making a backhanded statement at Nate for trusting trout.

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by Philthyanimal on Jan 14, 2009 1:14 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed on your last statement

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by Philthyanimal on Jan 14, 2009 1:12 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Travis is our backup four-man fo-eva!

book it.

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--Bo Outlaw on being asked how he felt about recording his first triple double.

by prezofdeath on Jan 13, 2009 1:45 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

+1

I love Trout at the 4.

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by broyposse on Jan 13, 2009 2:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Possibly

the best move by Nate all of last season.

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by Philthyanimal on Jan 14, 2009 1:15 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Keep him forever

Who else are you going to get who does what he does?

I want to see someone say: Boy that Travis really had a great leap of BBIQ last night.

Come on now, let’s hear you say it – Elgin

If you smile at me I will understand, because that is something everybody everywhere does in the same language. - Crosby/Stills/Kantner

by 22baylor on Jan 13, 2009 1:55 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Not to be a thread-downer, but..

..don’t we have a thread about people “hating Travis” from yesterday?

Either way, I reiterate: Nobody hates Travis, the person. Some fans don’t enjoy his style of play, and get frustrated at some of his on-court play. That’s a long way from “hate”.

by Timmay! on Jan 13, 2009 1:58 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Shocking

Trout has a big game and all of a sudden people rally behind him again.

Notice his doughnut in the assist collumn? That’s why I still say we trade him, he is the only Blazer with tunnel vision and I don’t see him fitting in with the long term plans of this team. Not to mention the amount of ugly shots the guy throws up! There is not a single more frustrating Blazer player to watch (obviously last night was an exception, but that was just 1 game people).

Trade the Trout and trade him fast!

"Great Oden's raven!" - Ron Burgandy

by danevan on Jan 13, 2009 2:01 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

the only blazer with tunnel vision

is one of the few they rely on to get their own shot.

Some of those shots look ugly, because he’s being guarded by professionals.

Trade him not, – Elgin

If you smile at me I will understand, because that is something everybody everywhere does in the same language. - Crosby/Stills/Kantner

by 22baylor on Jan 13, 2009 4:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

this is the nba, they are all professionals

but yet he throws up shots you should only see in a sunday afternoon pick up game

"Great Oden's raven!" - Ron Burgandy

by danevan on Jan 13, 2009 5:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Just last game?

Haven’t you been watching the past few games? Less jumpers, more driving, more fouls drawn, and smarter passing. Obviously, he still makes bone-headed plays, but who doesn’t? Steve Blake had some WTF moments yesterday, like when he took two or three consecutive jumpers with >15 in the shot clock.

As for the egg in the assist, just because that happened doesn’t mean he didn’t pass. In fact, one of the best plays he had last night was when Roy passed from the baseline to him and instead of shooting, he passed to Blake, who then passed to an wide-open Rudy. Blake gets the assist, but Outlaw contributed to that.

Bottom line is Trout kills at the 4, a position he apparently didn’t play much this season until lately. He can drive on almost any 4 at will, which is almost as good as a bruiser. His rebounding should be better, but when you have Gregzilla vacuuming everything…

by Eventine on Jan 13, 2009 4:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Haven’t you been watching the past few games? Less jumpers, more driving, more fouls drawn, and smarter passing.

You’re completely right. Travis is noticeably improved since Nate singled him out, and he had a 2nd half breakout against Detroit.

While I’d still argue he has the highest ratio of bonehead-to-good plays, he certainly has knocked that ratio down in the last few games. I hope he keeps it up.

by Timmay! on Jan 13, 2009 4:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Past game or past few games

He is still the same Travis. I’m not saying the guy cant make a pass, he just doesnt do it enough, I dont know how many times I have been yelling at my tv for him to see the open man instead of throwing up some obscene fade-away shot, Im sick of it already, he has got all the gifts yet is still so mediocre. I get that he is still young and needs time, but he has been in the league how many years now? I think its time to move on with this guy.
I do like him a lot more at the 4, because, like you mentioned, he can drive on anyone. But that isnt enough. The guy doesn’t play help defence well enough downlow and we need to be able to reply on him to rebound when Oden is attempting to block shots, which is an area he is incompetent for a player with his gifts.
I just think people get too exctied over “the past few games” and need to look at the big picture, just like how KP needs to look at showing Travis a way out of Portland

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by danevan on Jan 13, 2009 5:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

his improvementsare subtle

but they still are improvements none the less. i remember when people complained he was constantly disrupting the flow of the offense…and being a guy who isn’t all that big on Trout I noticed the little things he was doing such as improving his catch and shoot game.

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by Philthyanimal on Jan 14, 2009 1:19 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Bulls game

Was the best,rebounding,passing and all around game of Travis’s life.

by southern oregon on Jan 13, 2009 2:18 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I only hate Trav

before New Years day.

Seems as though he doesn’t start playing well until midway through the season—that said, I’d rather have a player who is at the top of his game in the playoffs, then one who starts out strong and gets worse as June gets closer.

Travis is the anti-Peja.

by EngineerScotty on Jan 13, 2009 2:22 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Trout

is better than Bass
but not as good as Salmons

I like fish

-Shad

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by NBAstard on Jan 13, 2009 2:27 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Holy mackerel

I hate to carp, but your puns have me floundering on the floor…

anyone else remember that old Kip Adotta song that Z100 used to play the heck out of back in the day, “Wet Dream”?

by EngineerScotty on Jan 13, 2009 2:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh my Cod!

I can’t believe I’m reading another Trout post.

by Corvid on Jan 13, 2009 2:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Some few days ago

I had a conversation on here with The Odenator about Outlaw. I was in the camp that would designate me, according to some, a “hater” although I do not hate Outlaw. I think he’s a fine person and a great locker room guy. During that conversation I outlined my frustrations with Outlaw’s offensive game, as well as my perceived deficiencies in his defense and rebounding effort. My opinion of his game hadn’t changed a whole lot after that conversation, but I did see The Odenator’s well-stated points and came to at least a better understanding of my own frustrations.

After these last three games that Outlaw has played, my mind is beginning to change. His last three games are all examples of what I would like to see from Outlaw on a game by game basis. It’s not about his scoring. It’s about how he scored his points. Last night he was much more aggressive attacking the rim; even mixing in shot fakes! The play where he did a little shot fake then drove for the easy two at the rim as well as the shot fake to get Heinrich in the air, draw the foul, and sink the shot, were two of the most beautiful things I’ve seen from him all year. Plus, (and more importantly) he looked aggressive on defense, blocking a couple shots nicely, he was around the rim on rebounds as well. And, what’s more, his shots were later in the shot clock, usually open shots, and not forced unless there were 5 seconds or less on the clock.

I don’t care if Outlaw scores 33 or 3, as long as he plays tough defense, rebounds, and attacks the rim. And that’s what he’s been doing the last three games. I hope he keeps it up.

by DrivetheLane on Jan 13, 2009 2:34 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

hey now

the only thing missing here is the “rapid increase of Travis’s basketball IQ”. – Elgin

If you smile at me I will understand, because that is something everybody everywhere does in the same language. - Crosby/Stills/Kantner

by 22baylor on Jan 13, 2009 4:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

OK hear me out for a second

I already posted about why i could never hate Travis (in fact i really like the guy) in the other thread, so I’m not gonna wax on about it here.

What I am gonna comment on is that I’m getting tired of hearing the whole “it’s his sixth year in the league” schtick over and over about why he thus couldn’t possibly improve any further.

Travis is a guy who probably shouldn’t have come straight out of high school, and that definitely hindered his development. He was the last guy off the end of the bench for awhile, and wasn’t much of a factor til his 4th year. He got a fair amount of garbage time run because we were often getting slapped, but when you’re a coach of a bad team trying desperately to save your job/career by scrapping out a few wins here and there, you’re not gonna be concentrating on that 11th or 12th man much in practice—valuable reps in plays and schemes go to potential contributors, the third team plays dummy d (or offense) most of the time.

Then I think back to that article a season or two ago (IIRC it was early last season but i could be wrong)about how they all of a sudden figure out the guy is a kinesthetic learner. So not only has he not been getting that many reps (which are evidently the far and away best way for him to learn), but we haven’t even known HOW to effectively teach the guy anything up until year 5 (or 4 if i was wrong on that)

that’s not the equivalent of 6 real years of pro experience. If he had gone a full 4 in college, he’d be a second year pro right now, considered a rising star who still makes some mental mistakes (but likely quite a few less than he makes now, since he would have A. been getting tons of playing time and practice reps, and B. not wasted 4 years of learning time sitting behind guys like Z-bo, who there isn’t a whole lot to learn from anyway).

IMO the guy is in his second or third year of any usable instruction. Since he’s improved every year thus far (and his play for this season seems to be on upswing at the moment), I don’t think those first few wasted years are grounds to suddenly decide he’s done improving, especially the mental part of the game that only comes with experience

by DominicanAvenger on Jan 13, 2009 2:42 PM PST reply actions   2 recs

+1

Outlaw’s first three years in the league were useless to him and to the Blazers. – Elgin

If you smile at me I will understand, because that is something everybody everywhere does in the same language. - Crosby/Stills/Kantner

by 22baylor on Jan 13, 2009 4:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Totally OT

Love your sig. “Wooden Ships” takes me WAY back. Loved that song, that whole album.

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by TTRocks on Jan 13, 2009 8:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I like what you are saying

but some of things Travis is weak at are things that you would learn at the junior high level. He is pretty much one handed, he gets lost when playing zone, does not put a body on his man etc. I would buy the argument that he has not been taught in the right way for transitioning from preps to pros, but sometimes you wonder if that guy ever played organized basketball before coming to the Blazers.

I would be fine if his mistakes seemed like mistakes that could be taught away, but a lot of them seem to stem from lack of mental focus, which is harder to correct. I would love if he could fix that up, but I am not holding my breath.

Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.

by jonestr on Jan 13, 2009 8:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

i see what you're saying

in fact, I think you may be more right than you know. I don’t have much to back this up, but I get the feeling that he didn’t get that much in the way of coaching on the details in high school either. He played in a small rural town (not to stereotype, but there’s likely not the type of competition for coaching jobs there is in the big city) and was likely so physically dominant over the guys guarding him that many of those types of flaws in his game were overlooked or missed entirely.

If they played a zone, it’s likely his role was just to stand in the middle, jump as high as he could and throw any interior shots into the put row.

It’s a lot easier to miss that someone has no left when nobody can stop him from going right.

by DominicanAvenger on Jan 13, 2009 8:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I have definitely thought about that angle

maybe I am a little biased as I learned how to play zone, dribble with my left hand, stay on my man, and box out in Gilchrist Oregon.

Those are definitely valid points about fundamental deficiencies being masked at that level by sheer athleticism.

Lets hope you are right and he continues to improve. I would be happy to lend him some of my books on mental training.

Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.

by jonestr on Jan 13, 2009 9:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

double standard?

I think the 6th year line is a valid argument…however that isn’t to say that he won’t improve. he will improve, but it just probably won’t be at the rate he has been over the early stages of his career. yes we know that veterans can improve…blake and pryz have probably shown the most improvement on our team this year. i don’t want to target Trout fans with this comment, but I want to know why people are so patient with Trout and not with Jarrett Jack, Sergio, and a small minority are impatient with LMA and Martell.

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by Philthyanimal on Jan 14, 2009 1:25 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Why is all of this hate Travis stuff being brought up now?

and not weeks ago when the real hatin’ was going on…

He has been playing great of late and making real difficult for the haters to get any traction with their arguments.

I just don’t get it…

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by LaMarvelous on Jan 13, 2009 4:21 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

i think it's more in relation to the post Casey dropped

about his cousin telling him he’s hated here. I tend to ignore most things posted on the internet that i don’t find insightful rather than getting worked up over them, and dismissed a lot of it as fair-weather-fan-isms (if you were one of the lone voices saying it when he was tearing it up last year kudos to you, but a lot of the people ‘hating’ weren’t) mixed with the natural frustration that comes with watching a somewhat erratic player.

I know it’s not the frustration with the erratic play I take issue with (as I’ve felt that way myself) but the implication that just because he hasn’t mastered that yet he’s incapable of doing so. As I said above, his first 3 years in the league were completely meaningless in terms of reasonable development, so he stands a pretty significant chance of being the exception to any rule of who develops how much in what year. obviously a lot of guys who don’t come into the league in ideal situations fizzle out of the league before this point, but since he’s stuck so far and proven himself somewhat he’s not gonna lose opportunity, and that’s the only way a guy like that’s development usually stops

by DominicanAvenger on Jan 13, 2009 6:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

forgot to add

that he’s just such a nice all around guy people get sad to see him feel like that

by DominicanAvenger on Jan 13, 2009 8:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

his shooting

is bound to be streaky…all jump shooters are…but that doesn’t change the fact that the other arguments about him are pretty valid. the other night when he scored the final 4 points…he got to be the hero that night, but that didn’t really make up for the fact that he didn’t really play a good first half. sometimes making the clutch shot at the end gives him a free pass for what he does the other 3 quarters.

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by Philthyanimal on Jan 14, 2009 1:27 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

true that

then again some games that happens to Roy

wasn’t he like 3 for 16 heading into the final 5 seconds of that Houston game?

by DominicanAvenger on Jan 14, 2009 9:19 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He's more suited

for an SSOL type offense. Set plays are not really his style, considering he really only has one move.

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by Arby on Jan 13, 2009 4:26 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

he also has

fade away jumper regardless of who is on him, and driving with head down.

BTW I am just a Travis disliker and not a hater.

Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.

by jonestr on Jan 13, 2009 8:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

truth

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

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shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...

by BlazerFan1 on Jan 13, 2009 4:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

i dont think so

if you are talking about pre-deadline trades i don’t think we will unload any major rotation player. in the off season everything is fair game…however he isn’t doing anything now other than improving his 3 point shot that he didn’t do last year…i wouldn’t think his trade value has changed all that much. i don’t think we are showcasing him or anyone else this year for a trade so far.

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by Philthyanimal on Jan 14, 2009 1:29 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

T Law is a important part of the equation!

Travis is an integral part of the Blazers bench and could be the “4th member” of the ’ Big 3" of Oden, Aldridge, Roy. KP isn’t considering moving Travis as he is continuing to play better in his role. Outlaw fits in well with the team, is best friends with Roy, and is now demonstrating the ability to step up. With Martell sidelined and Bayless developing, all you T Law haters should just STFU!

by NewRipCity on Jan 13, 2009 4:53 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I wonder what the poll would say if the Blazers lost and trout had missed all those shots.

I’d still be in the keep him forever group because I’m banking on continued improvement, but I think the overall result would have been poorer for Travis.

".. is gumby an alien?"

by staylost on Jan 13, 2009 4:58 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Travis is the perfect backup 4 for this team,

so long as Joel Przybilla stays on the team as a backup C. If Portland can resign him to a 4mill/yr contract, he will be the best option for playing backup 4, largely because will be one of the cheapest players in the league that can create their own shot against ANYONE. Plus he would be perfect for grabbing loose balls when our centers, who are both black hole type rebounders, can’t grab the board. Points blocks and boards, that’s what I expect from Trout, and if he can do all those things consistently, paying him 4 mil for his services is highway robbery.

by premthegrem on Jan 13, 2009 5:36 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Travis is a good backup 4

But I honestly want to see how we play with a banger off the bench.

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by Philthyanimal on Jan 14, 2009 1:31 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd like a backup 3/4 who complements Travis

a guy who is a beast on the boards, can post up, and can play decent D.

Right now, the only muscle on the bench (up front) is Prz, and I guess Diogu; but the latter isn’t good enough to be useful.

Ideas?

by EngineerScotty on Jan 13, 2009 5:39 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

A 2nd unit frontcourt of Outlaw, Millsap and Pryz

would KILL. But obviously the chances of getting Millsap are next to nada.

by Eventine on Jan 13, 2009 7:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

TRAV: DON"T READ FAN JUNK

EVER….EVER EVER EVER!!!

"..[Travis Outlaw] could jump, grab a rafter, eat a sandwich, and then dunk.."
tmundal 12/30/07

by LetsBlaze on Jan 13, 2009 6:32 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

except ATF's, Bow4, and my sig line...

"..[Travis Outlaw] could jump, grab a rafter, eat a sandwich, and then dunk.."
tmundal 12/30/07

by LetsBlaze on Jan 13, 2009 6:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

How many have noticed

that over the past two seasons, Nate almost always has Travis in the game during crunch time situations. He obviously has no understanding of the many Travis flaws that you Outlaw haters always talk about.

I think y’all better forget about T-Law being traded as it’s obvious he’s highly regarded by Nate (and I think KP too). Sure, it could happen but if it does, it will be for a special player.

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by TwoDeep on Jan 13, 2009 6:44 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Even the haters love Outlaw

They would love his development to parallel the team’s development in terms of skill, discipline and consistency. He is more inconsistent than the team as a whole. Further, there’s some frustration that Travis comes into the season cold and needs 30 games to warm up but we still want to love him. His great last second iso’s don’t make up for the wild shots and lack of energy throughout the game. The haters would like him to run the set plays every night, not occassionally because we want our love to grow. The good news for the haters is knowing he plays much, much better at the PF. If he will boxout, rebound and defend with discipline the haters will love him even more than the lovers . Because we start from a place of lower expectations our love has higher to climb. The lover’s love can only come down from it’s high place. You see now that the haters have much more to hope for than the lover’s. But if he continues to frustrate our will to love then we will hate him and hope for a fast trade for someone we can love better.

by oregonslee on Jan 13, 2009 8:47 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

no hate for travis

he just happens to be the most talent blazer who doesn’t obviously fit for the long term…

if his best contribution comes from back-up PF minutes.. then what can he really expect minutes-wise? let’s say LMA only plays 28 minutes at PF everynight and every other 20 minute goes to Outlaw.. is that enough? the only way LMA plays that little at PF is if he is play 7-12 mins at C

by idoltime on Jan 13, 2009 9:03 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I'm sure Trout will be SF

during crunch time, unless Nate goes small ball, so yes, he does lose minutes when Martell gets back, but the drops won’t be as bad.

by Eventine on Jan 13, 2009 9:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

hmm

seems like nate likes running the 3 guard lineup in crunch time…and I can’t picture that changing. Trout @4 in crunch time is probably the best option considering we need to get Rudy in the lineup as well.

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by Philthyanimal on Jan 14, 2009 1:34 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd like Outlaw better if he could lighten his skin color like Michael Jackson.

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by tominhawaii on Jan 14, 2009 2:00 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

^so much win

They LIED!!!

http://www.nba.com/news/miles_10_080919.html

by maid tu rek on Jan 14, 2009 1:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hahhahahhahhahahaahhaa!!!!! Maybe he should remove his nose too.

"Aneurysm".

When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie

by annthefan on Jan 14, 2009 6:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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