Full Court Press
by Ben. on Jan 12, 2009 12:05 PM PST
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We'll kick things off this week with Bustabucket.com, who snagged their first exclusive interview and got a big fish: Mike Rice. A great video and lots of good questions (very cool that they took reader-submitted questions too); just wish they had asked Rice whether he realizes how many people he has offended with his portrayal of Confucious. Anyway, my favorite exchange..
BAB: Have you talked to Javie since [he ejected you from a game]?
Mike Rice: No, We have not talked since that day, it was probably 12 years ago, 10 years ago something like that, we have not talked since.
That's crazy.
I kept waiting for Jason Quick's take on Darius but it never happened. Instead, JQ delivered a really nice piece on the team's new sleep strategy.
Flight departures were altered. Morning shootarounds canceled. Curfews relaxed.
All so the Blazers players could get better sleep.
At the seed of the changes was Dr. Charles Czeisler, a gray-haired professor who works at Boston's Brigham and Women's Hospital and heads Harvard Medical School's Division of Sleep Medicine. Czeisler, who has also worked with NASA astronauts and the U.S. Olympic Committee, stresses the importance of getting enough sleep each night and keeping the body's internal clocks in sync by maintaining consistent sleep patterns. Inside the Blazers locker room, he has become known simply as "The Sleep Doctor."
Brian Hendrickson's latest takes a look at the team heading into the road trip.
"It's different basketball," Roy said. "There's more pushing, more elbowing, guys are cutting harder. ... It's that time of the year."
Rip City Project looks at the road trip.
So what are the expectations? I think the absolute worst the Blazers do is 2-2. East Coast trips are tricky and scare me because weird things happen. Each of these teams have guys who can explode, for some reason I imagine Devin Harris going to work and Gerald Wallace having one of those type of games that just make you shake your head. Call me a downer, I'm just thinking out loud here. 2-2 is the worst-case scenario both in my mind and on the court. I don't see Portland going 1-3, too much talent, pride and Nate gets them too ready to let that happen.
Torrid Joe broke my heart by discovering the "Bayless Hex"!
... it seemed like the moment he stepped on the court all hell broke loose, and the moment he left the wind shifted back again. Golden State plays a hectic but loose style, and I think Jerryd was just too slow to keep up mentally. His brain couldn't tell his body what to do quickly enough. It just made him sloppy and out of balance. But those were team failure moments. It's just coincidental that he was the clarion call of disaster, and amusing that apparently Nate noticed as well.
Dwight Jaynes found an interesting article by David Aldridge.
One source has told me that the Blazers raised questions about Miles to his team during the offseason. And no one seems to know how word of Miles' impending 10-game suspension leaked out.
I think we all know how that news leaked out.
John Canzano delivered a piece about KP in the aftermath of Miles-Gate that sent you guys into an emailing frenzy.
It's not lost here that Pritchard is also a rabid Blazers fan. He reads every word written by local and national media about the team. He comes home from games and pores over the fan message boards, too. And on Saturday he admitted that he even posts on the Internet fan forums under an alias, because he simply can't help himself.
Y'all got really excited about this. I'm starting to think you might not be reading every word we write on here. We broke this news on October 2nd. More than 3 months ago.
Instead, other league executives are asking stuff like, "Did that (bleep) really coin (the phrase) 'Pritch-slapped' by himself?"
(No. He didn't. The term was born in the mind of a Blazers fan after a series of Pritchard personnel moves. But you get the idea.)
This time travel backwards through Bedgeworld is disjointing.
As for this blog entry, it's hard to tell whether Canzano's joking when he writes...
In looking around the Portland locker room, and listening to the whisper on the street, Channing Frye feels like the Blazers player least likely to be a Blazer after the Feb. trade deadline. Keep an eye on this.
By "whisper on the street" was he referring to the 6,700 fanposts that have run on the subject over the past six months, every single Marc Stein chat since the draft, 1 out of every 3 callers to every sports radio show in the city, or, perhaps, the front page story in the Willamette Week entitled "Here Today..."?
All jokes aside, both the Pritchard piece and the blog entry felt a little bit forced to me while this Katie Shearer piece (must read) felt a lot more natural. Maybe JC's just more comfortable writing about that side of the team?
As for Canzano's thesis that Pritchard might have hurt his reputation around the league, Wendell Maxey reports a different take.
According to one NBA league executive who spoke to HOOPSWORLD on the condition of anonymity, there remains "no long term repercussion", despite some front offices harboring negative feelings towards Portland.
"I don't think it matters too much," the league executive said when asked if teams would refrain from negotiating with the Blazers with the trade deadline looming.
Lowposts.com wasn't so happy about Canzano's coverage of the Miles affair.
Canzano's disconnect with the reality of the Darius situation and the Blazers overall status with the league was put on display Sunday when he was shocked to learn that Pritchard is not well liked in the elite fraternity of NBA GMs and owners.
...
this incident taught us who NOT to trust when it comes to news regarding the Blazers.
I love it when blogs get scoops. Ryan McNeill of HoopsAddict got a chance to talk to both the Celtics and the Grizzlies about Darius Miles.
Despite being dejected after a tough loss to the Toronto Raptors on Friday, Mike Conley Jr. burst into a huge grin when asked about Miles.
"Darius (Miles) was a fun guy. He was a guy who has been around the league and knows a lot about the NBA. He understood the game and from the time he was with us he tried to give us some knowledge about how hard we need to play. He's been on good teams and bad teams, so he knows different ways teams can handle situations. He made sure our heads were right and focused. He did a good job of explaining that to us."
JE Skeets at Yahoo! has a nice Miles roundup.
Some of you guys (prezofdeath, norsktroll, bustabucket, etc.) might be looking at this in your future.
Power Rankings
If all goes right, tomorrow we should be delivering a short interview with the biggest name we've ever had here on Blazers Edge. Speculate away.
-- Ben (benjamin.golliver@gmail.com)
PS One final explosive nugget from that Canzano column that you deserve for reading this far...
Afterward, Pritchard left the Rose Garden arena with his girlfriend, Marlene, a teacher and former Blazers dancer.
Blazers Dancer Marlene. Where have I heard that name before?
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Biggest name ever, eh? KP?
Catalina-Wine-Mixer.
by ArbyOSU on Jan 12, 2009 12:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Well, KP is actually a very small name
although of course it’s a nick.
The biggest name I can think of right now is Kiefer William Frederick Dempsey George Rufus Sutherland.
"I never scored more than 38, even in Little League." ~ Roy, 52 pts
by shralpster on Jan 12, 2009 12:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If it was the biggest guy ever, i'd guess Shawn Kemp.
Biggest name? JAMES SPADER!
Brandon Roy is the Shawn Kemp of monogamy
-BE poster whose name I can't remember
by TheTinfoil on Jan 12, 2009 12:17 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Is Pritchard really picking up Duck's lady like that?
http://www.facebook.com/people/Marlene-Kanehailua/1055253177
Catalina-Wine-Mixer.
by ArbyOSU on Jan 12, 2009 12:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I hope KP doesn’t read this and then track me down and bar me from the RG.
by pklym on Jan 12, 2009 1:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Something tells me KP
is quite proud of his, er, newest acquisition. :)
by EngineerScotty on Jan 12, 2009 1:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
She was my Health Teacher
in High School
Roy To The World
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 12, 2009 3:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
She teaches health and PE
at Aloha HS.
Why is a certain Van Halen song (from 1984) now going through my head?
by EngineerScotty on Jan 12, 2009 3:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
She was a substitute teacher in several of my HS classes
at both Lakeridge HS and Tualatin HS.
by Gargen on Jan 12, 2009 5:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sabonis
"When I have the ball, I experiment." #5
by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 12, 2009 12:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
We can only hope.
Catalina-Wine-Mixer.
by ArbyOSU on Jan 12, 2009 12:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought KP was married with children
Guess he got a divorce. Not a high character thing to do. Oh well, it happens to the best people sometimes, so it’s not really a blemish. And good for him to score with a Blazer dancer. I wonder what they talk about.
The question we should really ponder is not why al-Zeidi could be so impolite as to throw his shoes at Bush, but why the dozens of other shoes in the room remained on people's feet, why no foot odor ever purifies the air at a White House press conference, why a man who throws his shoes at our president is more popular than our president himself.
by MT Suit on Jan 12, 2009 12:29 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
He was.... as recently as 2007
though should we be discussing his personal life?
by EngineerScotty on Jan 12, 2009 12:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t really care about his personal life but I applaud people who find attractive mates, if indeed this is her: 
Rudyculize: The act of Rudy making others look slow, dim and generally oafish.
http://www.myspace.com/y5k
by Y5k on Jan 12, 2009 12:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's interesting...
the personal lives of the players is frequently considered appropriate public discussion; especially when you have salacious details like Shawn Kemp’s gazillion children, Wilt’s 20,000, or Stephon Marbury’s “truck parties”; but the personal life of others who don’t play are considered much less off limits.
But jock culture, and remember KP was a player (basketball, I mean) before he went into scouting and management, is what it is… lots of male athletes seem to be alpha-dogs who don’t exactly lead lives of chastity.
by EngineerScotty on Jan 12, 2009 12:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Score KP, but isn't she a little old (and dead) for you?
falling in love again, never wanted to, what am I to do? I can’t help it …
Rudyculize: The act of Rudy making others look slow, dim and generally oafish.
http://www.myspace.com/y5k
by Y5k on Jan 12, 2009 12:30 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
The time machine that helps him so much in trades
is also pretty great for his love life. – Elgin
If you smile at me I will understand, because that is something everybody everywhere does in the same language. - Crosby/Stills/Kantner
by 22baylor on Jan 12, 2009 3:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ben should offer a reward for guessing right.
I figure it’s either Bayless or KP.
Hey, maybe it’s Obama. He’s not busy, right?
by Timmay! on Jan 12, 2009 12:30 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I bet it's GWB
He’s got nothing to do but go back to clearing brush and running baseball teams into financial failure again.
Rudyculize: The act of Rudy making others look slow, dim and generally oafish.
http://www.myspace.com/y5k
by Y5k on Jan 12, 2009 12:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess Paul Allen.
I’ll refrain from making any Scott Avery like comments about KP’s girlfriend.
Stick it to Canzano, Ben.
"When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car"
by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Jan 12, 2009 12:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
You're interviewing my mom tomorrow?
If you think I'm insulting you, I'm insulted that you'd even think that I would think of insulting you.
by prezofdeath on Jan 12, 2009 12:38 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
and about that rehab thingie
why would I want to go stick my head inside a dog kennel?
If you think I'm insulting you, I'm insulted that you'd even think that I would think of insulting you.
by prezofdeath on Jan 12, 2009 12:39 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
on the other hand, why not?
Rudyculize: The act of Rudy making others look slow, dim and generally oafish.
http://www.myspace.com/y5k
by Y5k on Jan 12, 2009 12:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess Larry Miller or Kevin Pritchard for the interview.
I think it’s mildly inappropriate to be speculating about KP’s personal life. He deserves respect and some of these comments are absurdly rude.
Sophia
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...
by BlazerFan1 on Jan 12, 2009 1:08 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
what's wrong with Marlene Dietrich?
(Aside from the smoking)
Rudyculize: The act of Rudy making others look slow, dim and generally oafish.
http://www.myspace.com/y5k
by Y5k on Jan 12, 2009 1:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Smoking is pretty hot.
Catalina-Wine-Mixer.
by ArbyOSU on Jan 12, 2009 1:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
her eyebrows...?
those are SO realistic looking…
Sophia
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...
by BlazerFan1 on Jan 12, 2009 2:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Just how God, er, Ed Emberley made them.
Catalina-Wine-Mixer.
by ArbyOSU on Jan 12, 2009 2:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
he he
she is hot though. Christina Aguilera <3 her.
Sophia
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...
by BlazerFan1 on Jan 12, 2009 2:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
hot she is.
Smokey old ladies rev my engine, what can I say?
Catalina-Wine-Mixer.
by ArbyOSU on Jan 12, 2009 3:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Christina Aguilera has no taste.
Madonna? Ewww. :)
by EngineerScotty on Jan 12, 2009 3:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like the current fashion with some ladies I've seen.
a fashion, which by the way, makes me completely shudder.
Greg Oden, where posters happen.
by ratbastird on Jan 12, 2009 3:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i dunno i have fat eyebrows and in high school went through the
drawn eyebrow faze. I look back at those pics and think, WTF?
Sophia
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...
by BlazerFan1 on Jan 12, 2009 3:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
you were a little G-ette, no?
paper thin painted eyebrows and all.
"When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car"
by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Jan 12, 2009 3:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
G-ette...si
haha
not really just trying really hard to be overly sexy all the time. Not a good look.
Sophia
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...
by BlazerFan1 on Jan 12, 2009 3:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
also
xtina = not too bad now a days
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...
by BlazerFan1 on Jan 12, 2009 3:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd let her sing me to sleep.
"When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car"
by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Jan 12, 2009 3:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Better her than Britney...
When K-Fed is a better parent than you, it says a lot.
by EngineerScotty on Jan 12, 2009 3:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
haha
wow
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...
by BlazerFan1 on Jan 12, 2009 3:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Particularly after having her breast feed me.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Jan 13, 2009 11:18 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
you dirty dog
"When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car"
by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Jan 13, 2009 11:37 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
She looks unusually clean for herself...
Maybe Child Services was doing an in-home visit that day?
Catalina-Wine-Mixer.
by ArbyOSU on Jan 12, 2009 4:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree to a point...
Since it’s posted, it’s fair game to discuss. Have all of the comments been nice or respectful? No, but that’s the internet for you.
I wonder why Canzano felt the need to mention it. It seems kind’ve off base to me, like it could only do damage while offering readers virtually no value at all. If it were People magazine he were writing for and not a daily newspaper it would be understandable. I mean, why not tell us what kind of shoes KP wears, if he stinks up the RG bathroom, had a visible booger in his nose or left his zipper down?
That said, I’ll still comment on it because the very fact that this is made public is worthy of discussion. My rush reaction was “Woah—Duck’s ex-lady? Hmmm…” but the more I thought about it my thoughts changed to, “Why do we know this again?”
Unfortunately both my speaking and typing rates exceed that of rational thought…sigh.
Catalina-Wine-Mixer.
by ArbyOSU on Jan 12, 2009 2:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You should be happy, Sophia...
less competition for #88 at the Rose Garden. :)
by EngineerScotty on Jan 12, 2009 2:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
truth
Sophia
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...
by BlazerFan1 on Jan 12, 2009 2:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Too bad it's too early for tominhawaii to wake up
It’s 3PM PST, meaning 1PM in Hawaii—Tom doesn’t get up for another hour or so. :)
Given that Marlene is Hawaiian, I’m sure he’d have something interesting to say.
by EngineerScotty on Jan 12, 2009 3:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I am sorley tempted to do my best Tom impression
but i cant bring myself to do so.
:P
Sophia
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...
by BlazerFan1 on Jan 12, 2009 3:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Just say that Marlene is da kine
but average-looking by Hawaiian standards, and that should cover it. :)
by EngineerScotty on Jan 12, 2009 3:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
However, I’d argue the players and others also deserve that respect as well. Unfortunately in the public light and with the media those things tend to come out.
Your point about it being inappropriate and the comments being rude is a good point. It’s not always considered rude to go “omg I want to tackle hug Batum and tie him up so I can drip chocolate syrup over his body” (edited for publication on BE) if you’re with your girlfriends, it may even be funny. however, in a public forum where the girlfriends you’re laughing with may also include the person you’re talking about… then it can be rude. (yes I know you never said such a thing about batum)
BE is a public forum. While people may chat amongst friends and enjoy anonymity, it’s also very public and so those crass comments could then be rude because there’s actual real people at the other end of the internets. this takes me down a road of tangenting pondering now.
Good call though.
Greg Oden, where posters happen.
by ratbastird on Jan 12, 2009 3:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Damn
I got that Marlene scoop back before Christmas, I should have put it up on my blog.
by robrun2 on Jan 12, 2009 1:12 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
why Ben is not a lackey
and someone is
by Bust a Bucket on Jan 12, 2009 4:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
the interview better not be with Darius, or even about him…
by pklym on Jan 12, 2009 1:15 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Confirmed
Can’t copy/paste the image, but here is the link:
http://www.facebook.com/people/Marlene-Kanehailua/1055253177
by hypotnoos on Jan 12, 2009 1:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I wish I was good at stuff like adobe illustrator
as I would totally photoshop my face over that ladies so it would look like KP and I were in love.
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
by jonestr on Jan 12, 2009 2:16 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
REC
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...
by BlazerFan1 on Jan 12, 2009 2:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Dikembe Mutombo Mpolondo Mukamba Jean-Jacques Wamutombo
There are no bigger names in the NBA.
by pualo on Jan 12, 2009 1:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
let's call him DMMMJJW for short
If you smile at me I will understand, because that is something everybody everywhere does in the same language. - Crosby/Stills/Kantner
by 22baylor on Jan 12, 2009 4:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's surprsing that Rice said Brandon Roy
was his favorite player to talk to. It always seemed to me like Rice and Martell always got along the best.
Jaws were hitting the floor as Greg repeatedly attempted to tear the rim off the backboard...
by TheOdenator on Jan 12, 2009 1:39 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I loved the Mike Conley comments
"He understood the game and from the time he was with us he tried to give us some knowledge about how hard we need to play. He’s been on good teams and bad teams, so he knows different ways teams can handle situations. He made sure our heads were right and focused. "
I don’t know about anyone else, but if Darius Miles is the guy my team is relying on to make sure their heads are on right and they are focused, I’m looking to either clean house or sell. As I’ve said before, I don’t think Miles is a bad guy, but he certainly isn’t my idea of a role model and leader. Assuming for the moment that Memphis picked him primarily for the luxury payment and to hamper Portland on cap space, they may have done more harm than good to their own fortunes if any part of Miles rubs off on the young guys.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Jan 12, 2009 1:50 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I will forever hate Memphis.
First, they give us the lopsided Gasol trade.
Now, this business.
All I can say is that they truly deserve Darius. I hope he can show his true colors in the next few remaining days of his short BS contract.
Catalina-Wine-Mixer.
by ArbyOSU on Jan 12, 2009 2:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Memphis is one otf the few team with cap space this summer
signing Darius gives them a direct monetary hit to the Blazers in FA this summer. The Blazer field a more attractive team, but with fewer dollars to spend, they will be a lesser player than Memphis when/if Darius gets his 10th game on the books.
by NWfan on Jan 12, 2009 4:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's the Grizzlies we're talking about.
Even if LeBron James wanted to play for Memphis, cheapskate Heisley wouldn’t pay him more than the mid-level exception.
by EngineerScotty on Jan 12, 2009 4:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Memphis will always suck. It's science.
Catalina-Wine-Mixer.
by ArbyOSU on Jan 12, 2009 4:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Also… am I missing something? When was Miles on a good team?
Greg Oden, where posters happen.
by ratbastird on Jan 12, 2009 3:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Celtics pre season
Obviously that was quality time on a good team.
by Zaig on Jan 12, 2009 3:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ooooh
right. Of course. good quality time.
Greg Oden, where posters happen.
by ratbastird on Jan 12, 2009 3:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know about anyone else, but if Darius Miles is the guy my team is relying on to make sure their heads are on right and they are focused, I’m looking to either clean house or sell.
Insightful comment. It’s strange to see Darius be the voice of reason… of course the majority of problems with Darius we heard about came from the same one or two reporters though…
But here’s the thing: Darius has been though a life-changing experience. Perhaps he really is doing better. Maybe he has a new perspective, and is more relaxed, and brings a veteran presence into a young locker room.
If THAT was the reason Memphis signed Darius, I wouldn’t have a problem with it. At least that’s a legit need on the team.
by Timmay! on Jan 12, 2009 3:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
until he play some real time
and then we have another gruesome video to watch or something where the bones are screeching on live tv.
Greg Oden, where posters happen.
by ratbastird on Jan 12, 2009 3:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree about the Confucious/Mike Rice comment as well.
That has always bugged me. Wildly inappropriate.
Catalina-Wine-Mixer.
by ArbyOSU on Jan 12, 2009 2:12 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
What comment?
I must have missed/ignored the imortance of this comment. Care to enlighten me?
by Zaig on Jan 12, 2009 2:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He does a weekly bit where he makes predictions as Confucious...
In a very Mickey Rooney from Breakfast At Tiffany’s kind’ve voice he says things like, “Confucious say, Brandon Roy play better when Greg Oden no foul.” or crap like that… not HORRIBLE but still, the dude needs to cut it out. Asian people have TV’s and radios and are no doubt not feelin’ the Wild One.
Catalina-Wine-Mixer.
by ArbyOSU on Jan 12, 2009 2:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Have you seen the racist Oregon lottery tickets---
the “Panda-money-um” game? it has a bunch of pictures of different Asian-themed icons, one of which is a panda, and if you get the panda on your stratch-off, you win the prize.
Unfortunately, one of the icons is “Chinese”, which includes a picture of a slanty-eyed dude in one of those pointy straw hats.
Tacky, tacky…
by EngineerScotty on Jan 12, 2009 3:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ouch
Unfortunately there are a lot of reasons this kind’ve crap continues to go on, and most of it is centered around the fact that the population at large still thinks you can rag on certain race’s. The idea that the same person who thinks using the N-word is inappropriate thinks doing mock Asian accents is OK is pretty sad but pretty much where we’re at.
But this is a basketball forum….
Catalina-Wine-Mixer.
by ArbyOSU on Jan 12, 2009 3:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I remember Shaq's unfortunate remark when Yao Ming came into the league...
Shaq was clearly making fun of Cantonese, apparently unaware that Yao speaks Shanghainese and Mandarin. :)
Yi Jianlian, on the other hand, is a native Cantonese speaker.
by EngineerScotty on Jan 12, 2009 3:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Is every stereotype racist?
If somebody were to draw some great cartoonish caricatures of the Blazers, and those caricatures drew attention to prominent African American features, such as lips and noses, would those drawings be racist? If China had the same lottery contest with American themes, and among those items were hamburgers, pickup trucks and a fat guy wearing a cowboy hat would that be racist? Are there actually Chinese people with slanty eyes and pointy straw hats? Probably only half a billion. Is a cartoon of a Chinese stereotype actually condemning an entire population based on their ethnicity?
I’m not flaming or condemning here. I just think picking battles is more than fighting the ones that are winnable. Sometimes there’s actually nothing to fight about.
The cowards never started
The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers
by lukeyhere on Jan 12, 2009 4:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Depends on context, I suppose
Nobody has raised a big stink about the lottery that I can see. The lottery thing is probably more stupid/silly that outright offensive.
by EngineerScotty on Jan 12, 2009 4:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
didn't Paco (via Anilmart) already draw those pictures you speak of???
caricatures drew attention to prominent African American features, such as lips and noses,
Paco probably isn’t racist, is he?
by Bust a Bucket on Jan 12, 2009 4:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
A stereotype? Racist? It can be.
Whether perceived as positive, negative, accurate or inaccurate, racial stereotypes assume and assign based on appearance. Stereotypes technically could be a wide range of things, from assuming rich people are happy, people who ride motorcycles are criminals, gay people are clean or Hispanic folks all like spice food. With human beings, you cannot accurately predict if A then B. It just doesn’t work that way.
Catalina-Wine-Mixer.
by ArbyOSU on Jan 12, 2009 5:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So who then gets to decide?
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Jan 13, 2009 11:30 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
? I don’t get it…
Catalina-Wine-Mixer.
by ArbyOSU on Jan 13, 2009 11:48 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If you can't predict which stereotype might be viewed that way
or which subset might view it in that light, who gets to decide whether it is in fact a rascist use?
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Jan 13, 2009 1:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Good point luke. One that often gets ignored.
To take it a bit further, being offensive does note equate to being rascist. Last time I checked, there is not guarantee on going through life without being offended. I’m offended by stupidity, yet experience stupid people every day.
If there was no intent to make fun or degrade another race, then the fact that some individuals may take offense is not enough. If it is, then everything we do gets held to the lowest common denominator. Those few who don’t like it are free to complain. And if they get results, more power to them.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Jan 13, 2009 11:29 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I have always preferred Canzano's
human interest stories to his sports stories. Maybe it’s because he approaches the stories of “ordinary people” with respect and real interest while his sports stories often seem to reek of cynicism. Maybe he figures it’s OK to dig for dirt about names we know.
"Complaining does not work as a strategy. We all have finite time and energy. Any time we spend whining is unlikely to help us achieve our goals. And it won't make us happier." - Randy Pausch.
by jorga on Jan 12, 2009 2:17 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Hit or miss
He writes some good stuff, but I think he also writes some things for the sake of getting a column out.
Wasn’t it Canzano that said we could root for either Team USA OR Rudy? That we somehow weren’t allowed to root for Rudy to have an amazing game and still lose to Team USA. I can gurantee he doesn’t actually feel that way. Inside, he was hoping for Rudy to go off just like the rest of us, so long as it didn’t cost our country the game. Instead, he wrote a column to stir up a reaction, which columnists oftentimes do.
If that wasn’t Canzano who wrote that piece, my apologies. Also, Rudy was awesome that game and we still won, take that!
by Zaig on Jan 12, 2009 2:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I have a hard time reading any JC story
It really feels like he’s always trying to tug at my emotions artificially.
Good writers do that, without you even realizing it.
by Timmay! on Jan 12, 2009 3:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Marlene's extremely nice
KP’s been with her at least since I’ve known them (over a year). One time she pulled a paper clip out of her pocket and said dryly “Well, I guess you can tell I’m a teacher.” She also has a good memory for random people I guess—I had only met her once and walked by her at a Blazer game a month or so later and she stopped me to talk to me. She’s very cool.
"...we have so many experts who think that you have to play defense, you have to rebound, you have to be a possession coach, you have to execute. I just laugh. Explosive offense is not as intimidating as dominant defense. But it is scary when you don't know how to stop someone." - George Karl, Nuggets coach
by jamon51 on Jan 12, 2009 2:23 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
yes
but did you get her number?
Greg Oden, where posters happen.
by ratbastird on Jan 12, 2009 3:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously...
because then we could call KP night and day with trade ideas. Please tell me you got her number.
Greg Oden, where posters happen.
by ratbastird on Jan 12, 2009 3:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Remember, KP is lurking hereabouts
he could be me for all you know.
by EngineerScotty on Jan 12, 2009 3:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought we already assumed you were
and morty was JQ.
One day there should be an unveiling, after KP retires, as to who he was and who the other user names were. Should be good times.
If you WERE KP, I’d really like to know why players are hesitating with their shots when they’re wide open. Is it a nate directive to pass thirty times until the clock hits two or are the players really that gun shy.
Greg Oden, where posters happen.
by ratbastird on Jan 12, 2009 3:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's because if they miss the shot
they know they blow their chance at landing one of the Blazer dancers.
Chicks dig my NCAA championship ring. (Why do you think I traded Taurean Green? He had two of the things, and it pissed me off—plus, he kept waving it in Greg’s face…)
Plus they know I have Larry Brown on speed-dial, and he owes me bigtime for shutting down Mookie in the 88 title game.
by EngineerScotty on Jan 12, 2009 3:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
At one of the games during the streak last year, Marlene and KP wore matching pink ties. I got a kick out of that one.
by Corvid on Jan 12, 2009 5:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Canzano is a poor man's Colin Cowherd
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Jan 12, 2009 2:55 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Canzano is an upper-middle class man's Dwight Jaynes
Catalina-Wine-Mixer.
by ArbyOSU on Jan 12, 2009 3:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
wait... but...
aren’t they all free?
Greg Oden, where posters happen.
by ratbastird on Jan 12, 2009 3:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Canzano has issues with dark people.
Probably not a great idea for him to cover sports.
by howlingfantods on Jan 12, 2009 3:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
so Canzano is racist?
does he have bad memories from growing up in (predominently white) Gilroy, CA?
by Bust a Bucket on Jan 12, 2009 4:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The Portland Mercury
(admittedly, quite the left-wing rag) essentially called him out as a racist last year.
He certainly has no objection to the current squad, which is mostly African-American, but many of whom either come from middle-class suburbs (Web, Roy, LMA), or rural areas (Outlaw). Of course, none of the current squad have done anything flagrantly stupid or obnoxious in public, as guys like Sheed, Damon, Bonzi, Zach, and Darius were occasionally wont to do.
That’s why it would be interesting to get a guy like the Birdman here in town.
by EngineerScotty on Jan 12, 2009 4:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know what it was like when he lived there
But Gilroy isn’t always the most pleasant area anymore.
by Timmay! on Jan 12, 2009 5:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
what's wrong with Gilroy?
too many immigrants?
You actually leave your Los Gatos mansion and check out the normal towns?
You are in Senior management at Oracle, are you not?
by Bust a Bucket on Jan 12, 2009 5:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I can confirm the "Marlene" suspicion.
I am a former student of hers. All I can say is “well done.”
whaa happen?
by Toby on Jan 12, 2009 3:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I am also a former student
Perhaps we sat next to eachother…
Roy To The World
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jan 12, 2009 3:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If I read one more thing about Darius Miles....
I think I’ll puke on the spot. Right on the ol’ keyboard….plaster the screen, as it were.
It’s making me read True Hoop a bit less….Henry seems to have a thing for blowing this completely out of proportion.
by antediluvian on Jan 12, 2009 3:39 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I heard Darius wanted to play in Europe.
He had heard that weed was legal over there, and couldn’t wait to play for some Euroleague team…. but found out that he would have had to change his name to Darius Kilometres.
Gleefully scraping the bottom of the barrel…
by EngineerScotty on Jan 12, 2009 4:08 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
One question Ben...
Do you know KP’s name on here. I am not asking for you to leak it, i am just wondering if you know because of your inside access…. A yes or no works….
RUDY > MJ
by myemic23 on Jan 12, 2009 4:36 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Or is that what you're supposed to say?
We’ll never really know in this situation.. we can only speculate.
by amitp06 on Jan 12, 2009 4:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He could tell you
but then he would have to ban you
by EngineerScotty on Jan 12, 2009 5:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I actually know it
and emailed it to Dave a few months ago… if you do enough research (by clicking on user names and reading everything they have posted) it’s not terribly hard to figure out… I hope it is never leaked so he will continue posting…
by Bust a Bucket on Jan 12, 2009 5:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's timbo isn't it......I KNEW IT !!!
The cowards never started
The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers
by lukeyhere on Jan 13, 2009 10:27 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Man
This thread is so loaded with stuff that makes it loaded with stuff, that I’m not touching this stuff.
I'm a Blazers fan and If you ban me from your blog, I'll sue you!
by tominhawaii on Jan 12, 2009 8:43 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
One thing though
Is she the lady that wrote that post about Duck right after he passed away? I’m freaking out.
I'm a Blazers fan and If you ban me from your blog, I'll sue you!
by tominhawaii on Jan 12, 2009 8:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Oh, just now we have a reason to mistrust reporting from Canzano?
wannabe shockjock.
Nobody reads your blog, your "pimped" Honda is trash, your favorite band stinks, and most importantly your great trade idea is boring and frankly stupid.
by pxilpooshr on Jan 12, 2009 9:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
+1 . . . . I miss Brian Meehan
He was the anti-Canzano. Weaved nuance and studied detail into a story, didn’t try to oversell a point, or make something bigger than it was.
put a body on 'em
by RayBourque on Jan 13, 2009 2:40 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
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