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The Sched Ahead -- Jan. 12 weekly update

SUMMARY INFO (rehashed)

Four categories of games:

  1. Home games against sub .500 teams.
  2. Home games against winning teams (I'm including teams right at .500 in this category).
  3. Road games at losing teams.
  4. Road games at winning teams. 

A general formula for success in the NBA is to win almost all of Cat 1, a majority of Cat 2 and Cat 3, and win some in Cat 4.  The contenders may win more than half of their Cat 4 games.

Discussed further by ulc and here

Last Week

COMMENTS ON THE WEEK

NJ stayed a losing team, which helped some teams and hurt others.  This has been discussed previously, so I won't waste much time on it.  As sample sizes increase, this weird factor will decrease in importance, which is good since Milwaukie is threatening to turn into a .500 team and Miami is still within shouting distance of being a losing team.  Philly might get into this conversation, too.

Since last week, Portland won a Cat 2 and a Cat 1.  A solid week, gained some ground.

Dallas went 2-0 in easy Cat 1 games, and lost a Cat 4 at Phoenix and a Cat 3 at the Kings (bad idea).  Lost ground.

Denver won a Cat 1 and split Cat 2s, beating Miami and losing to Detroit.  Little change from last week, they were mediocre at home against winning teams and still are. 

Houston won a Cat 1 (yawn), split Cat 3s (meh), and rescued their week by winning a Cat 4 at Boston.  Some improvement in their position.

L.A. won a Cat 4 and Cat 3 and split Cat 2s, losing to N.O. and beating Miami.

N.O. won a Cat 1 and split two Cat 4s, beating L.A. and losing at Utah.  Helped themselves some. 

Phoenix lost at home to Indiana (oops), beat Dallas at home, and won at the Clips.  Hurt themselves with the Pacers loss.

The Spurs are little changed, with a good win at Miami negating a tough loss at home to Orlando (also beat the Clips at home).

Utah had their first really solid week in forever, winning a Cat 1 and two dangerous Cat 2s.  Definitely helped themselves.

Helped themselves:  Portland, Houston, N.O., Utah.

Treading water: Denver, L.A., S.A.

Hurt themselves:  Dallas, Phoenix.

The tables (now with color!!!):

Cat 4

W

L

Played

Left

Portland

3

9

12

9

Dallas

3

4

7

15

Denver

3

7

10

11

Houston

5

7

12

9

L.A.

5

2

7

13

N.O.

4

6

10

11

Phoenix

1

5

6

14

S.A.

4

4

8

12

Utah

1

6

7

14

Houston has now played as many as we have in this category.  Key to the playoff race -- Dallas, Phoenix, and Utah all have many more of these most difficult games left.

Cat 3 

W

L

Played

Left

Portland

5

1

6

14

Dallas

7

5

12

7

Denver

8

1

9

11

Houston

7

4

11

9

L.A.

5

2

7

14

N.O.

6

1

7

13

Phoenix

9

1

10

11

S.A.

6

1

7

14

Utah

6

5

11

9

Dallas and Houston took road losses against losing teams for the second week in a row.  This week, we have four (!!!) games in this category.  It would be nice to get at least three of them, which would keep us well ahead of Dallas, Utah, and Houston in the "taking care of business on the road" category.

Cat 2

W

L

Played

Left

Portland

8

3

11

10

Dallas

2

6

8

12

Denver

5

5

10

11

Houston

5

2

7

14

L.A.

9

2

11

10

N.O.

6

3

9

12

Phoenix

7

5

12

9

S.A.

3

6

9

12

Utah

7

2

9

11

Utah won 2 of these, and begins to look like a strong home team again.  We got one (Detroit).  Houston has a lot of home games left, but a lot of them are against winning teams.  Note that only L.A. and Utah are better at home against winning teams than we are so far.  Note also that Dallas and the Spurs have been poor in these games, and Denver is only mediocre. 

Cat 1

W

L

Played

Left

Portland

6

1

7

13

Dallas

10

0

10

11

Denver

9

0

9

11

Houston

7

2

9

11

L.A.

11

0

11

9

N.O.

6

1

7

13

Phoenix

4

2

6

14

S.A.

11

1

12

8

Utah

8

2

10

11

Phoenix took a loss to Indiana this week.  They have more of these easiest games left than anyone, but if they are only going to win 2/3 of them....

Of the teams we are concerned about other than the Suns, we've got a few more games left in the "should be easy" category than they do.

All Home Games

W

L

Played

Left

Portland

14

4

18

23

Dallas

12

6

18

23

Denver

14

5

19

22

Houston

12

4

16

25

L.A.

20

2

22

19

N.O.

12

4

16

25

Phoenix

11

7

18

23

S.A.

14

7

21

20

Utah

15

4

19

22

L.A. and S.A. both still have fewer home games remaining.  Houston has more.  We are virtually tied with Utah for the second best home record, behind L.A., a really good accomplishment considering 11 of our 18 were against winning teams.

All Away Games

W

L

Played

Left

Portland

8

10

18

23

Dallas

10

9

19

22

Denver

11

8

19

22

Houston

12

11

23

18

L.A.

10

4

14

27

N.O.

10

7

17

24

Phoenix

10

6

16

25

S.A.

10

5

15

26

Utah

7

11

18

23

Houston has significantly fewer road games left, which will really help them the rest of the way.  L.A., S.A., and Phoenix may drop one or two because of more road games.   

All Games Against Winning Teams

W

L

Played

Left

Portland

11

12

23

19

Dallas

5

10

15

27

Denver

8

12

20

22

Houston

10

9

19

23

L.A.

14

4

18

23

N.O.

10

9

19

23

Phoenix

8

10

18

23

S.A.

7

10

17

24

Utah

8

8

16

25

Against winning teams, L.A., Houston, Utah, and N.O. have a better overall record than we do.  Note how many more games we have played against winning teams than our rivals.  This week, we will have none such games, so it would be a very good week to take advantage and start to separate ourselves from the 7-8-9 spots. 

All Games Against Losing Teams

W

L

Played

Left

Portland

11

2

13

27

Dallas

17

5

22

18

Denver

17

1

18

22

Houston

14

6

20

20

L.A.

16

2

18

23

N.O.

12

2

14

26

Phoenix

13

3

16

25

S.A.

17

2

19

22

Utah

14

7

21

20

Against losing teams, Denver, S.A., L.A., and N.O. have better records than us (Phoenix drops out of that list).  We have more games left against losing teams than anyone, with only Phoenix and N.O. close. 

Back to Back Games

  Total Road Cat4 Cat3 Cat2 Cat1
Portland 8 8 4 4 0 0
Dallas 10 5 3 2 2 3
Denver 11 7 4 3 2 2
Houston 7 6 2 4 1 0
L.A. 11 10 6 4 0 1
N.O. 10 8 4 4 2 0
Phoenix 11 9 3 6 0 2
S.A. 10 6 2 4 2 2
Utah 13 11 9 2 0 2

Houston now has an easier back to back schedule than we do.  Utah's is still the hardest, by far.   

Winning/Losing Standings

How many games have been played against winning teams, and how many against losing teams -- and how many are remaining.

W Played

L Played

W Left

L Left

Portland

23

13

+10

19

27

+8

Dallas

15

22

-7

27

18

-9

Denver

20

18

+2

22

22

0

Houston

19

20

-1

23

20

-3

L.A.

18

18

0

23

23

0

N.O.

19

14

+5

23

26

+3

Phoenix

18

16

+2

23

25

+2

S.A.

17

19

-2

24

22

-2

Utah

16

21

-5

25

20

-5

Note that besides Portland, only New Orleans and Phoenix are in the plus territory, as far as having more games left against losing teams than against winning teams, and that they aren't that close to us.  Note also that Dallas (especially) and Utah are on the minus side of the ledger (significantly more games left against winning teams), and those are two teams lagging behind us.

This disparity starts to even out this week, as we play four games against losing teams, all on the road.  Next week, this won't be quite so lop-sided, but we'll still have an over-balance of home games against losing teams -- the easiest kind. 

The Important Stuff

Here is the vital stuff:  the jscot Stupid Sched Projections. 

Standard Disclaimer:  How these work (if they can be said to work, which is doubtful), and why they are stupid, is explained in previous posts.  Do not blame me.  This is only the numbers.  It isn't the spreadsheet's fault, either, the spreadsheet is only doing what it is told to do.  Someone was stupid enough to tell the spreadsheet to do it, but we don't want to discuss that.

Playoff seedings if everyone keeps winning in every category at exactly the same rate for the rest of the season, and if no .500 or better team turns into a losing team, or vice versa (is that enough disclaimers)?

No change in positions this week, but some changes in the numbers.

  1. L.A. -- 66.5 wins.  Four tough games coming up.  Losing streak?  We can hope. 
  2. N.O. -- 56.7 wins.  Pretty good week for them, very tough week ahead. 
  3. Denver -- 54.6 wins.  Unchanged.  Three tough home games for them this week, they need two of the three to maintain position. 
  4. Portland -- 54.3 wins, up from 53.3.  Even winning all four this week may not move us up from fourth, but three will probably maintain our position.
  5. S.A. -- 53.3 wins.  Marginal move up.  They host the L@kers, and then go on the road against three of the four teams we face this week.  
  6. Houston -- 52.0 wins.  Win at Boston rescued their week and improved their position somewhat.
  7. Phoenix -- 47.8.  Losses to Indiana at home are not recommended for those wanting to contend.  Only reason they weren't the biggest loser this week was because....
  8. Dallas -- 46.5.  The spreadsheet is pretty forgiving about road losses to Phoenix, but following them with a road loss at the Kings is not a good idea.  Especially when the prior week you lost at Memphis.  Blazer fans may appreciate Cuban's comment about the Darius email, but the spreadsheet does not appreciate his team's penchant for losing to weak teams on the road.  Especially when other teams have a good week....
  9. Utah -- 46.3 wins.  The best positive move of the weak week, by far.  A few more weeks like that, and they won't be weak -- they were 3-0 at home.  This week, they have to prove they can do it on the road against poor teams.  You don't have to be very good at Cat 4s to make the playoffs, but if not, you've got to get your Cat 2s and 3s.  Last week, they got two of those 2s, this week they have two of the 3s.  The spreadsheet will forgive them if they lose at Dallas on a back to back as long as they do what they should in the other games.   

There it is after last night's games.  Work is going to be heavy for me this week (and for a while), so no promises about doing this next week, but I'll try.

One thing, if anyone knows an easy way to paste stuff in from Excel, please let me know.  When I tried to copy/paste from Excel, really bad things happened.  The first 6 or so of those tables appeared to be fine on preview, but then it totally freaked.  So I ended up pasting into Word from Excel, and then using the Paste from Word button in the SBN WYSIWYG editor.  I know nothing or less about HTML.  What I'm doing works, but it's an extra step, and it would be nice if I could save a little time. 

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Very nice.

I too have tried to paste things in from Excel with little success. I haven’t tried it, but I think a good way to paste things in would be to convert the Excel file to a .pdf and then basically paste the image of the graph/table you want into the browser window.

Rudy, Rudy, Rudy,
Roy, Roy, Roy!

by joelor on Jan 12, 2009 9:38 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Not sure

how that is any easier than going through Word. The Word procedure works reasonably well, really, so I shouldn’t complain.

Efficiency and laziness are first cousins.

I know you can put admiration in bags, because admiration is real, and tominhawaii says that everything that is real is measurable.

by jscot on Jan 12, 2009 10:22 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I like the current one

I fill those admiration bags chock full.

I know you can put admiration in bags, because admiration is real, and tominhawaii says that everything that is real is measurable.

by jscot on Jan 12, 2009 11:12 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Phenomenal work!

This makes feel even more optimistic about the rest of the season.

Brandon Roy is the Shawn Kemp of monogamy
-BE poster whose name I can't remember

by TheTinfoil on Jan 12, 2009 10:46 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Great work.

It would be interesting to know how many of the back to back games are against teams going bakc to back too.

Thanks.

Sergio + Rudy = 16
Sergio + Bayless = 16
Batum 8+8=16

by amlmart1 on Jan 12, 2009 10:51 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I think

we just exceeded the limit of how hard I want to work on this spreadsheet. Right now, I’ve loaded in the schedule of the nine teams. I would have to load in all the other team schedules and make it smart enough to figure out how to look up that information.

And then, someone would want to know how many of the games that aren’t back to back are against a team that IS going back to back.

And all that would be neat and valuable and useful information. But I’m too busy right now, and too lazy.

Maybe I’ll do something like that over the summer so I have it ready for next year from the start of the year.

I know you can put admiration in bags, because admiration is real, and tominhawaii says that everything that is real is measurable.

by jscot on Jan 12, 2009 11:12 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No thanks

I’m not interested in the Oxford brand of English. It’s, well, too English.

I know you can put admiration in bags, because admiration is real, and tominhawaii says that everything that is real is measurable.

by jscot on Jan 12, 2009 1:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I dont know if this would help

but there is an add on to firefox called imacros for firefox that might help you pull data more efficently.

Maybe some excel wiz could step up and help you gather info of the web with a macro as well.

thanks for the update.

Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.

by jonestr on Jan 12, 2009 11:38 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I paste stuff in

from NBA.com (schedules and standings) and Excel takes it well enough for my purposes. It’s not really the pasting stuff in. It’s that the workbook has a worksheet for each team, and this would involve a lot of communication between workbook pages that it just isn’t intuitive to me how to do it easily.

Perhaps I’ll think about it while driving off to work or something, maybe it’s easier than I think. In fact, it probably is.

I know you can put admiration in bags, because admiration is real, and tominhawaii says that everything that is real is measurable.

by jscot on Jan 12, 2009 12:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I should say

“Excel takes it well enough for my purposes” means I know enough to set up the spreadsheet to parse it out, and all that work is done, so we’re set on that part. The issue is not in getting the data in, but in processing it.

I know you can put admiration in bags, because admiration is real, and tominhawaii says that everything that is real is measurable.

by jscot on Jan 12, 2009 1:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Great stuff yet again.

Utah seems to be starting their run… blech.

A 4-0 week would really be great… Possibility for a seven game win streak.

by Cablinasian on Jan 12, 2009 11:19 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

REQUEST

This is a really great feature. I enjoy reading it each week. Would you be willing to share it with the readers at http://www.clubblazers.com/ ??? :) Thank you in advance. uct

by ucatchtrout on Jan 12, 2009 12:04 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I probably can

but I’m crunched for time right now, so won’t happen today.

I really, really don’t care if you want to just copy it over there, though. Please feel free, just let people know you got it from the Bedge so our community gets the credit.

If the tables and stuff don’t copy over nicely, though, let me know, and I can try it pasting in from Excel or Word, probably tomorrow.

I know you can put admiration in bags, because admiration is real, and tominhawaii says that everything that is real is measurable.

by jscot on Jan 12, 2009 1:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Urgh

Posting the tables over there is NOT going to be easy….

I know you can put admiration in bags, because admiration is real, and tominhawaii says that everything that is real is measurable.

by jscot on Jan 13, 2009 2:21 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder...

how the “young teams improve in the season” theory meshes with the “rookie wall” theory or the “veterans know how to pace themselves” theory.

Last year we improved radically toward the end of the season, provided you looked at the record in a mirror while blindfolded with your head in the sand.

Do you suppose we will improve similarly this year?

The cowards never started
The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers

by lukeyhere on Jan 12, 2009 1:45 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I think it's a mix

Rookies do tend to hit a rookie wall. What we have going for us on that front:
1. None of our rookies are playing real long minutes.
2. Our most important rookie is still not up to speed after major injury. Even if fatigue kicks in for him during the second half of the season, he’s still likely to be improving significantly as the season goes along just because he’s regaining his game.
3. We got many of our really tough games and tough road trips out of the way already. Rookie wall is easier to deal with mentally if you are playing OKC than in Boston.
4. Rudy has professional experience. The schedule in Europe isn’t as heavy, but he’s more mentally prepared, and also older than most rookies.
5. If Martell comes back strong, it will lessen Nic’s exposure to rookie wall problems, and give everyone a big mental and physical energy boost.
6. Biggest factor — most of our key players (Brandon, Steve, LMA, Joel, Travis) are not rookies anymore. They’ve been through the grind.

I know you can put admiration in bags, because admiration is real, and tominhawaii says that everything that is real is measurable.

by jscot on Jan 12, 2009 11:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

well

the data is getting F’d b/c of the formulas everywhere. Cant you make the data into a graph or something fixed then copy paste the “pic” to your post?

Good info, thanks

Sophia

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

"He should have his face
shaved into the back of his head.. Then there would be no escape" OutlawisRejector on what Bayless' next haircut ought to be...

by BlazerFan1 on Jan 12, 2009 2:52 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Thanks, that gives me an idea to try

I know you can put admiration in bags, because admiration is real, and tominhawaii says that everything that is real is measurable.

by jscot on Jan 12, 2009 11:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

???

They LIED!!!

http://www.nba.com/news/miles_10_080919.html

by maid tu rek on Jan 13, 2009 2:13 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

He must be one of my faithful minions who recs everything I write.

I know you can put admiration in bags, because admiration is real, and tominhawaii says that everything that is real is measurable.

by jscot on Jan 13, 2009 2:22 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

u have many

They LIED!!!

http://www.nba.com/news/miles_10_080919.html

by maid tu rek on Jan 13, 2009 2:46 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

rec

I know you can put admiration in bags, because admiration is real, and tominhawaii says that everything that is real is measurable.

by jscot on Jan 13, 2009 3:20 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

check this out too

our next 4 games

@ phi
@ nj
@ cha
vs mil

denvers next 4

vs dal
vs pho
vs orl
@ hou

either way we should be moving up as either denver should lose a few or poke some holes in opposing teams and we should win the next 4 if all goes well.

"Damn the Blazers. Damn them to hell. They are working the rest of the league like a speed bag." - Bill Simmons 6/26/08

by SpyderRyder on Jan 12, 2009 10:18 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

If Denver

goes 2-1 on those home games, they’ll improve their projections because of the quality of opposition.

If they lose at Houston, no great impact because the spreadsheet expects them to do so.

And the spreadsheet doesn’t really expect Dallas or Phoenix to win at Denver very much, so losses there won’t hurt them too badly.

The spreadsheet also pretty much expects us to win all of these upcoming games (or all but one of them), so even if we win them all, it won’t give us that much of a boost. Losing one of the road games won’t be that negative for us, but losing two would set us back some.

Good to have the Chicago banana-peel game out of the way.

I know you can put admiration in bags, because admiration is real, and tominhawaii says that everything that is real is measurable.

by jscot on Jan 12, 2009 11:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Status after games of 1/12

New Jersey became a .500 team again (shifting things around again), and Milwaukie got closer to that status.

New Orleans lost at home to the Knicks, and takes a big hit for that. Now, they go on the road for some very tough games. This should serve as a warning to Blazer fans who expect us to automatically win all of these road games. Probably every team we play on this trip except Charlotte is better than the Knicks, and we are on the road.

Utah wins at home against Indiana, something Phoenix couldn’t do. Now they go on the road for three games, two against weak opposition and the third at Dallas on a back to back. If they get 2 of the 3, that would make it a pretty good week for them.

T-mac is out for 2 weeks. Houston has four home games against tough competition, then at Indiana, Detroit, and New York (back to back) during that time. Will be interesting to see how they perform.

Projections:
1. L.A. — 66.6 wins.
2. Portland — 54.1. The NJ win hurt us, our win mostly negated that.
3. N.O. — 54.0. If they win their tough road games, they will pass us again even if we win all of our games this week.
4. Denver — 53.5. The NJ win hurt them. If they win their tough home games, they pass us even if win our games. I think they pass us if they even win two of 3.
5. S.A. — 52.4. The NJ win hurts them.
6. Houston — 52.0.
7. Phoenix — 50.8. The NJ win helps them.
8. Utah — 47.7. The NJ win helps them, as does their home win against the Pacers.
9. Dallas — 45.3. The NJ win hurts them.

This is the first time since I started posting these about 20 games into the season that Utah has escaped the #9 spot. I’m still waiting to see if they can actually do anything on the road before I consider them a favorite for a playoff spot, but things are looking more promising for them than they have all season. They still have the toughest schedule ahead, and most of their jump today is simply because they’ve already played NJ twice, and NJ switched categories.

I know you can put admiration in bags, because admiration is real, and tominhawaii says that everything that is real is measurable.

by jscot on Jan 13, 2009 12:44 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

if you read Hollinger and look at his power rankings/playoff odds...

… he makes a strong case that Mavs fans should be nervous— Utah has been blowing teams out lately, so they really appear to be regaining form. Couple that with some unimpressive play by the Mavs, and Hollinger has their playoff chances at under 50… coolstandings gives them like a 58 shot at the playoffs, still by far the most likely to finish 9th.

The Mavs have a tough schedule the next couple weeks— could be a make or break stretch for them. Its possible they’ll drop several games out of the 8 seed.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Jan 13, 2009 1:01 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

Dallas started horrible, went on a tear for about 20 games, and appear to be returning to earth. If the Dallas that went on that tear returns, they’ll be fine. The next two weeks are going to tell a story for a lot of teams, I think, I expect some teams to begin to separate themselves from the 7-8-9 discussion. If Dallas plays well during that time, they aren’t likely to be in the 2-3 discussion, but they could really help themselves a lot. Or, they could drop well behind if they don’t.

Phoenix can still end in the muck, Houston isn’t out of the discussion entirely, especially if losing T-mac hurts them, and Utah is going to have to be a better road team this year than last year, starting very soon.

I know you can put admiration in bags, because admiration is real, and tominhawaii says that everything that is real is measurable.

by jscot on Jan 13, 2009 1:27 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

excel import

I copy and paste data into NOTEBOOK and save it to my desk top. Then I open up EXCEL. If you have EXCEL 2007: go to the DATA tab and the first box in the tool bar is GET EXTERNAL DATA. In that box click on FROM TEXT. If you have EXCEL 2003: go to the DATA tab then down to IMPORT EXTERNAL DATA then IMPORT DATA.

Follow the instructions and experiment a bit. You can choose columns based on spaces, tabs, colons, all of the above, etc. If the data is well organized like at NBA.com then the process above will work pretty smooth. The only issue is when a team has a space in its name lake “Salt Lake” and everything in that row gets shifted over a column.

Hope this helps.

by HardCorvallis on Jan 13, 2009 8:33 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Thanks

My problem is export from the spreadsheet into the fanpost editor, not import into Excel. I’ve got that rolling fine.

I know you can put admiration in bags, because admiration is real, and tominhawaii says that everything that is real is measurable.

by jscot on Jan 13, 2009 8:55 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

excel import

Oops. I meant NOTEPAD, not notebook. It is under ACCESSORIES in ALL PROGRAMS.

by HardCorvallis on Jan 13, 2009 8:37 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Yowzah jscot

That hurt my head just reading that. Congratulations. (Some guy on the Georgia SBN site did the same thing, but I never finished it, and I don’t think this was a quarter of the total length that thing was. I spent 30 mins reading it, and never did finish. Maybe I should now.)

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jan 13, 2009 9:14 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I've been hurting people's heads

every week for several weeks now.

My former sig quoted Harry Truman, “If you can’t convince them, confuse them.” I’ve found that lots of words and tables and such may not do the former, but for the latter, it really does the job.

I know you can put admiration in bags, because admiration is real, and tominhawaii says that everything that is real is measurable.

by jscot on Jan 13, 2009 10:08 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

out-done yourself again, jscot

Rudyculize: The act of Rudy making others look slow, dim and generally oafish.
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by Y5k on Jan 13, 2009 1:59 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Status after games of 1/13

Projections:
1. L.A. — 67.4 wins. Nice win at Houston.
2. Denver — 54.5. Nice home win against Dallas.
3. Portland — 54.1.
4. N.O. — 54.0.
5. S.A. — 52.4.
6. Phoenix — 51.5. Nice home win against Atlanta.
7. Houston — 50.1. Home losses hurt, even against winning teams.
8. Utah — 47.7.
9. Dallas — 44.4. Loss at Denver hurt them. They are 5-12 against winning teams, by far the worst of the playoff rivals. With Carmelo out, this was a chance to improve on that, but they couldn’t get it done. A win would have really helped them.

I know you can put admiration in bags, because admiration is real, and tominhawaii says that everything that is real is measurable.

by jscot on Jan 14, 2009 12:12 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Dallas' position looks worse and worse by the day

Tomorrow they have to play New Orleans on the 2nd of a back to back. It is a home game for the Mavs, but I’m still picking the Hornets in that one.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Jan 14, 2009 12:36 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

One of them loses

Either way, it’s good. If Dallas loses, it increases separation between us and them. If N.O. loses, it helps keep us in the hunt to beat them for a really high seed.

You would have to give the edge to the Hornets.

Other games of interest — L@kers at Spurs (back to back for L@kers, but the trip from Houston isn’t a long one) and Jazz at OKC (I admit it, this is one game I want OKC to win).

Nets at Celtics is relevant to our game tomorrow — hope they play about 8 overtimes.

I know you can put admiration in bags, because admiration is real, and tominhawaii says that everything that is real is measurable.

by jscot on Jan 14, 2009 1:19 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

he he

Jscot- i haven’t harrassed your statistics this week have I? I see you’re softening your skepticism about Utah. Soon, you will come around to Phoenix. Nice thing about following your nose instead of statistics, they don’t change every week. Again, switch 2. and 3. with 7. and 8. and you’ll have it about right!

by Blazin' on Jan 14, 2009 1:16 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, it's you again? LOL

It’s not so much that my skepticism about Utah has softened as that my skepticism about Dallas has increased. They are not a playoff team right now.

Utah had a good week, their first really solid week since Thanksgiving week (when they went 3-1, losing only at the Spurs). But it was all at home. If they follow it up with another good week, I’ll feel a lot better about their playoff chances. High seed? They’ve got a long way to go for that.

If they can win all their games this week and 3 of 4 next week, I’ll figure they are in the 4-6 seed range, maybe higher. I expect they lose at least 3 games this week and next — likely losses at Dallas, Houston, and Denver (all of them on back to backs) and really tough home game against Cavs. If they win the games they should, and pick up a couple of those tough games as well, I’ll be impressed.

Utah needs to A) not lose any more home games against weak teams B) start winning almost all their home games against winning teams (they got two of those last week, so a good start) C) win a high percentage of their road games against weak teams (this week is their chance to do some of that, but they have never been good at this) and D) if they want to get a high seed, win better than a quarter (their current ratio) of their remaining road games against winning teams.

I’ve never said they don’t have the talent to do it. I said they need to start doing it soon, or it is going to get away from them. They started doing it last week, we’ll see how they do this week on the road, and next week with some really tough games.

I know you can put admiration in bags, because admiration is real, and tominhawaii says that everything that is real is measurable.

by jscot on Jan 14, 2009 1:37 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, and Phoenix?

When the projections had Phoenix down low, I said it was probably too low.

Phoenix right now looks like a 51-52 win team, which gets them a decent seed, but nothing great. If J-Rich melds in, they could play better and move higher. If they have injuries, they could end up in the muck. I’ve always thought Phoenix is one of those teams that is on the edge of that battle for the last playoff spot. They’ve played a tougher schedule than most, and have always remained in the hunt despite that. I’ve never seen them as a high seed, but with the potential of moving up to the high seeds or down into the battle for the last spot — but likely in between those two.

Basically, I think it comes down to Dallas and Utah, and Utah is edging it. Houston and Phoenix are two teams that could slip into that mess, or could move up, but are likely to end up somewhere around 5-7. Portland and Denver are likely in the 3-6 slots somewhere, and N.O. and S.A. are likely in the 2-5 slots somewhere (I expect one of them to get the 2 slot, but Denver could move up, and so could Portland if we can take advantage of the easier schedule).

The projections are just kind of a fun game, it is the individual breakdowns that really give the info. The projections have consistently liked the Hornets, and most people would look at them on the court and like them as well. The Spurs lose some games they should win, but they also win however many games they really need to win. If they make it a goal to get the 2 seed, they may well get it. Home/road doesn’t mean as much to teams like the Spurs.

But your “switch 2-3 with 7-8” isn’t right. Utah and Phoenix are not going to be 2 & 3. One of them might turn it on and get that high, but no way both of them beat out N.O., S.A., and Denver.

I know you can put admiration in bags, because admiration is real, and tominhawaii says that everything that is real is measurable.

by jscot on Jan 14, 2009 1:56 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

it's fun to speculate because 2-9 are so tight.

Anything COULD happen…my take is Portland’s seeding will depend largely on the progress of GO. If he stalls out here, or has a setback, I put us closer to the 8 or out of the playoffs. And if he continues to improve as he has recently, we could be as high as a top 4.

I can’t predict that Utah and PHoenix will be 2 and 3, rather that they will be in the top 6. You know my take, previous years’ performance are my point of departure till proven otherwise.

Thanks for your analysis. I do find myself watching the scoreboard and schedule more and more and your projection makes that all the more intriguing.

by Blazin' on Jan 14, 2009 2:53 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's all reasonable

Except for maybe one thing. If Oden doesn’t progress any further (which seems pretty doubtful, he manifestly is improving), we’re still playing really good basketball, better than an 8 seed.

I’m not sure who falls behind Utah and Phoenix in your world. Obviously, Dallas. Possibly, Portland. Presumably not S.A. or N.O. Houston? Not very likely if they can get healthy, and none of the injuries this year appear to be the type of thing that ends up long term. Denver? They are 25-10 with Billups. Hard for me to see them dropping that far. Billups-Denver >>> AI-Denver.

I know you can put admiration in bags, because admiration is real, and tominhawaii says that everything that is real is measurable.

by jscot on Jan 14, 2009 3:13 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Portland, Dallas

are most likely to be out. Dallas seems shaky. And Portland is suspect because they haven’t made the playoffs in 5 years. And because I can’t see anyone else on that list not making the playoffs. With S. Nash and S. O’neill on Phoenix, they have an edge down the stretch. And Utah has the best coach in the NBA.

Denver is still a bit of a question mark to me. They are way better without AI but are they better without Marcus Camby?

by Blazin' on Jan 14, 2009 7:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I wondered that about Denver as well

But my eyes tell me they are winning a truckload of games, even when Melo is out.

Billups has gone way up in my estimation.

Utah? Another road loss to a losing team. Sloan may be the best coach, but he isn’t pulling on a uniform and making defensive stops on the road like he used to for Chicago years ago. They just aren’t a good road team, and having a good coach doesn’t change that.

I know you can put admiration in bags, because admiration is real, and tominhawaii says that everything that is real is measurable.

by jscot on Jan 15, 2009 1:24 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Possibly even 3

Depending on other teams.

I know you can put admiration in bags, because admiration is real, and tominhawaii says that everything that is real is measurable.

by jscot on Jan 14, 2009 11:51 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

yep

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Jan 14, 2009 11:56 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

In case anyone is still following

NJ became a losing team again, maybe we can keep them that way.

Projections:
1. L.A. — 65.5 wins. Dropped due to loss at S.A.
2. N.O. — 55.7. Cat 4 win at Dallas jumps them up two spots.
3. Denver — 55.5. NJ loss bumps them up.
4. S.A. — 54.7. Nice home win against the L@kers, plus a boost from the NJ loss.
5. Portland — 52.7. Big hit due to loss to Philly, we were previously 6-1 in Cat 2.
6. Houston — 50.1. Virtually unchange.
7. Phoenix — 48.5. Big NJ hit. If we lose to NJ, they’ll regain that, and we’ll drop further, so might be close to us in the projections.
8. Utah — 45.7. Losing to OKC doesn’t help you get a high seed.
9. Dallas — 44.8. Bizarrely, their projection improves, despite a home loss. That is because they are pathetic at home against good teams, so the spreadsheet pretty much expected that loss already, and the NJ loss helps them.

I know you can put admiration in bags, because admiration is real, and tominhawaii says that everything that is real is measurable.

by jscot on Jan 15, 2009 1:42 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

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