2009 Trailblazers: Easiest schedule in the NBA
I generate the numbers I use for Strength of Schedule off of my own spreadsheet. They are just slightly different than Hollinger's. I calculate the SoS for a given team my looking at the winning percentage of the opponents when they DON'T play that given team. I don't know if Hollinger does that, but it might explain the slight discrepancy. Anyway, by my numbers, Portland has had the toughest SoS in the Western Conference (fifth overall, as the Eastern Conference is stronger overall this year--fewer outright dogs). More importantly for us hoping for the Blazers continued success, we have the easiest remaining SoS for the 2009 year.
| Team | W | L | % | SoS | Sos so far | Remaining SoS |
| Portland | 20 | 12 | .625 | .496 | .535 | .472 |
| Phoenix | 18 | 12 | .600 | .493 | .524 | .476 |
| Chicago | 14 | 18 | .438 | .507 | .555 | .477 |
| Denver | 21 | 12 | .636 | .497 | .519 | .482 |
| Sacramento | 8 | 24 | .250 | .501 | .526 | .485 |
| Indiana | 10 | 21 | .323 | .516 | .559 | .491 |
| Washington | 6 | 24 | .200 | .512 | .548 | .491 |
| L.A. Lakers | 25 | 5 | .833 | .494 | .493 | .494 |
| Toronto | 12 | 20 | .375 | .510 | .536 | .494 |
| Golden State | 10 | 24 | .294 | .496 | .497 | .495 |
| Minnesota | 6 | 25 | .194 | .499 | .507 | .495 |
| New Orleans | 19 | 9 | .679 | .498 | .504 | .495 |
| Milwaukee | 15 | 18 | .455 | .510 | .533 | .495 |
| Oklahoma City | 4 | 29 | .121 | .496 | .496 | .496 |
| Charlotte | 11 | 21 | .344 | .502 | .508 | .498 |
| San Antonio | 20 | 11 | .645 | .490 | .470 | .502 |
| Utah | 19 | 14 | .576 | .492 | .473 | .504 |
| Dallas | 19 | 12 | .613 | .495 | .477 | .506 |
| Houston | 21 | 12 | .636 | .499 | .484 | .509 |
| L.A. Clippers | 8 | 23 | .258 | .502 | .489 | .509 |
| New York | 12 | 18 | .400 | .510 | .507 | .512 |
| Philadelphia | 13 | 18 | .419 | .502 | .485 | .512 |
| Atlanta | 21 | 9 | .700 | .507 | .496 | .513 |
| Memphis | 10 | 22 | .313 | .503 | .482 | .516 |
| Cleveland | 26 | 5 | .839 | .504 | .479 | .519 |
| Detroit | 19 | 11 | .633 | .503 | .470 | .522 |
| Boston | 28 | 5 | .848 | .514 | .495 | .527 |
| New Jersey | 15 | 17 | .469 | .504 | .462 | .530 |
| Orlando | 25 | 7 | .781 | .499 | .449 | .530 |
| Miami | 17 | 13 | .567 | .513 | .466 | .539 |
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I love tables
especially tables filled with yummy statistical food.
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If you want to beef up your spreadsheet
You could factor home games against the opponent’s road record, and road games against the opponent’s home record. That would give a little better reflection of the difficulty of the game — a home game against L.A. shouldn’t be rated the same difficulty as a road game.
I suspect Hollinger uses point differential rather than W/L record.
I don’t know whether he factors in additional difficulty levels for back-to-back games, and especially back-to-back road games, but that would be ideal.
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Would be nice to see this SOS info integrated into the four categories approach
by upper left corner on Jan 1, 2009 9:06 AM PST up reply actions
I've thought about it
Not really sure how to proceed.
It would be very easy to just add the overall SOS numbers to the weekly post, as another piece of useful info. But other than that, I’m not sure how to integrate it.
I’ve considered if it is actually more useful to have 6 categories - teams below .400 (bottom feeders), teams in the .400.600 range (mid-level teams), and teams over .600 (arguably elite). But there’s still a big difference, IMO, between a .600 team and Boston/L.A./Cleveland (and Orlando?). But even so, how much easier is it, really, to win in N.O. than in Boston? Those are both games you would just normally expect to lose — the gap between .600 and .800 is big, but road games against either are pretty tough.
And if you break up the categories more, you have even smaller sample sizes, which makes them less useful for projecting — and the projections do have a little bit of benefit by the time you get to 45-50 games. So I decided it wasn’t worth the effort to refine the categories.
But with next week’s post, if shuppatsu wants to post his SOS numbers for the 9 teams in a comment, I’ll certainly edit my post and put them in the main post as another factor to look at. It’s definitely useful/interesting info. And I’m open to any suggestions as to how to factor it into the stupid projections.
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Stupid software formatting
That wasn’t supposed to be crossed out, but if you put hyphens in the same sentence in two places, apparently it crosses out everything in between.
Maybe it’s the software crossing out the 6 categories idea. I’ll take it as written.
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The quadrant approach jscot uses approximates SOS
Especially in the West, with its haves and have nots. It gets messier in the East and with the games played there. They have 3 great teams, some decent squads, some wannabes and some also-rans. Combining SOS and home/away does sound yummy. Hollinger just considers them separately, and does not appear to weight H/A very much.
yeah, I could do that
I’m working on the home vs. road stuff, though I may never get there. And then I don’t know how I would incorporate them. Would I use a league-average home-team advantage, or tailor it to each particular team (e.g., Blazers do particularly well in the Rose Garden). These decisions are best made by people with at least a small background in statistics. That is emphatically not me, unfortunately (I say unfortunate because I suddenly find it really interesting).
As for back-to-backs, I dunno. I read a piece purporting to debunk the negative effect of back-to-backs, mostly attributing any perceived effect to the increased likelihood that the team is on the road. But this stuff is way over my head. I couldn’t do a regression to save my life at this point.
Fooling around with point differential, I did my own stupid projections, playing with Excel’s trendline tools to do some kind of regression for me. They’re even stupider than yours, as I really don’t know what I’m doing. But just for fun, my projections have the Cavs leading the NBA with 71 wins, and the Blazers fourth with 60.
by stupid
I don’t mean to insult you, just that you yourself say they are stupid. Paraphrasing you, “the math is good, but math wasn’t meant to be used this way.”
GASP!
I’ve been INSULTED!
I knew what you meant.
I wouldn’t use a league average home court advantage, I’d just use an individual opponent’s home record and road record to weight the difficulty of the game.
I think you’d have to look at historical difficulty of back to backs to come up with a factor for that one, because there aren’t enough in any one season to measure it reasonably accurately. Even then, there are so many variables — the Orlando/Miami back to back, or New York/Washington, is not as hard as L.A./Portland, because the travel is a lot easier (that’s what made Orlando’s win here quite impressive). I’ve not tried to reflect it in my spreadsheet.
If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President
Oh, and by the way
I think there are so many variables that boiling things down to a single number, as you’ve done here, has its value, but it obscures so much.
Does Phoenix really have the second easiest remaining schedule? Well, they have 16 (!) remaining home games against losing teams. They haven’t played a single home game against the teams with less than 10 wins yet, so they have a lot of cupcake games.
On the other hand, they’ve only played 6 road games against winning teams, with 14 left. Now, 16 is more than 14, so that averages out to an easier schedule (of course, I’m ignoring the question of the varying strength of opposition, but assuming for the sake of discussion that the strong are about as strong as the weak are weak).
But when you are trying to get to 50+ wins, do 16 almost sure wins cancel out 14 likely losses? Not really.
So a single number weighting is really nice for a quick overview, but it (necessarily) obscures important information (as do my silly projections).
To put it another way, if you are trying to get to 50+ wins, I would rather have 16 home games against Chicago and 14 road games against Miami than have 16 home games against OKC and 14 road games at Cleveland. The two options might boil down to the same single number, but the latter option results in probably 15 of 16 home wins and maybe only 2-3 of 14 road wins, while the former option probably results in 13 or 14 home wins and perhaps 7-8 road wins — 21 wins vs. 17-18.
This flaw applies to the kind of stuff I’ve been doing, too, because I only use four categories of games. By factoring in the actual win-loss record of the opponents, you bring data into play that I’m not using, but you obscure the actual number of difficult games. It’s all tradeoffs. There’s no perfect way to look at it all without either having too much data to mentally absorb or obscuring the data.
Next year, I propose that we just win all of our games, and then we won’t have to worry about all this stuff.
If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President
"...win all of our games ..."
Most boring proposal I´ve ever heard of.
Sergio + Rudy = 16
Sergio + Bayless = 16
Batum 8+8=16
We'll keep some of them close
just for excitement.
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PHO and DEN #2 and #4
there won’t be much room to breathe even so, looks like. Nice to see other west teams further back and in fact facing .500+ teams the rest of the way.
Which Western teams are
in the 7, 8, 9 positions right now?
Dallas, Phoenix, Utah.
Which Western playoff contenders have the toughest remaining SOS, not based on home/away?
Houston, Dallas, Utah, San Antonio.
Which Western playoff contenders have the most remaining road games against winning teams?
Dallas (16), Utah & New Orleans (15).
Which Western contender has the most remaining back to back games?
Utah (13).
Which teams are most likely to struggle to make the playoffs, given all that, as things stand today?
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utah?
December 18, 2008.
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Wrong - it's youtah. You forgot to misspell it. :) jk
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December 18, 2008.
"Roy is Roy, and if I were to bet my life on a game of 5-on-5, I’d bet on whichever team Roy was playing on." by HurraKane212
great effort ,i just have one stupid question
whats an sos?
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December 18, 2008.
"Roy is Roy, and if I were to bet my life on a game of 5-on-5, I’d bet on whichever team Roy was playing on." by HurraKane212
The Blazers will need that easy schedule
to hold onto their playoff spot with Roy and Przy banged up
As good as the Celtics win was, the 2008 Blazers (without Oden and Rudy) were 18-12 last year and finished 23-29
that can’t happen again if they’re gonna play into May
Wishful thinkers
Scheduling is a factor, but for more so for an upstart like Portland. If/when teams likes Utah, San Antonio and Phoenix turn it on, they win 16/17 out of 20 regardless of who its against or whether its at home or on the road. They’re just that good.
If we are to break in to the top 8 this year, we are simply going to have to step up and play at a higher level. Rare year in the west when you have 9 teams playing +.600 ball.
You're sorta' right
But this current Utah team has always been much, much worse on the road for whatever reason, and rely on the great home record to compensate. They even lose to scrubs on the road… and Boozer being out won’t help, no matter how nice Millsap is.
SA and PHX could do that sort of win streak though (as unlikely as it may be at their age, but they’re good enough to do it). For that matter, so could we. But all things being relatively equal and no team plays AMAZINGLY above their head (like we did last season with the 13 game win streak), having the easier schedule will help and the hard schedule will hurt— especially as teams like the Spurs and Suns are in positions where years past they could coast a bit and turn it on come playoff time, now they have to come out and play their bestest basketball to ensure they stay in the playoff race.
It’s a fun year!
Mortimer
Really?
You say that no team play AMAZINGLY above their head. Well, that is my point. For the elite teams, it is not playing above their heads to put together that kind of run. In spite of our promise, we have not yet established ourselves as an elite team.
Let’s look at the most recent season. At this time last year, the Jazz were 18-15. They had some early season injuries (sound familiar?). They ended the season 54-28 and won the Division. That means they went 36-13 from there on out, a + .700 clip.
I agree that with 8 teams, one can not expect all 8 to hit a hot streak. But in this statistical analysis there seems to be no recognition of the past and the personalities of these teams. At this point in the season, I would be inclined to give some weight to difficulty of scheduling and team record. But especially given how knotted things are in the West, I think we have to give some weight to past performance.
And this clearly favors the perennial powers. To me, it is kind of a wash. Which is good. It means we have as good a chance as anyone of making the playoffs. But to say we have a better chance, I call that wishful thinking.
Nope
We don’t have to step up and play a higher level. We’ve got a .625 winning percentage against a very hard schedule. If we maintain that same level, we’ll do even better against the OKC/Memphis/Bobcats/etc teams, and we’ll be looking at 55 wins.
It would be great to step up and play a higher level, and I just think we might. But if we play as well against the weak teams as we have against the strong teams, it’s all good.
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Maintaining a .625 record
will require us to step up, because other teams are improving as the season progresses.
Are they?
OKC and Memphis and the Bobcats and the Pacers, etc, are improving? NJ is improving? We have a lot of games left against teams that aren’t improving.
You are looking at last year and expecting the Jazz to go on a similar run this year. Last year, they were 18-15, but 19 of those first 33 were on the road. 12 of those 19 were against winning teams. This year, they’ve played six road games against winning teams.
Last year, they had home games against Boston, Cleveland, LA, & NO out of the way by this point. This year, all those games are still sitting out there on their schedule waiting to get them. They’ve already lost as many at home this year as they lost all of last year. They will lose more.
If they win at L.A. and sweep their four game homestand coming up, I’ll believe they’ve righted the ship, and that the schedule won’t hurt them. I don’t expect them to win at L.A., and I won’t be surprised at all if New Orleans or Detroit beats them in Utah.
I won’t be shocked if Utah makes a run and survives, but I just can’t believe that every other contender is going to go on a run. If we maintain our current level of play, we’ll get 53-54 or more wins, and that isn’t going to miss the playoffs.
I’m not sure why you think older teams are likely to improve more over the course of a season than a team like Portland, which has a starting center who is already effective despite the fact he is just learning to play the NBA game, and a starting SF who has missed the whole season so far.
The biggest in-season improvement in the West this year is coming from Greg Oden. He is already far superior to the player we saw earlier, and there’s no reason to expect him to regress. If you ask an impartial observer which team is most likely to improve over the course of the season, they would look at Portland (because of Oden and Martell) and Utah (because of their injuries).
If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President
I am beginning to believe
that Portland is a playoff caliber team. But I have good reason to wonder…Just look at where Portland and Utah were this time last year. In the end, I trust my own eyes and in spite of their record, I don’t think the Trailblazers have made as compelling an argument on the floor as Utah or Phoenix.
I’m not sure why you think older teams are likely to improve more over the course of a season than a team like Portland
Experience. Just like in the fourth quarter, the good teams have a knack for doing what it takes to win when it matters. I expect veteran teams to have an edge down the stretch if they are fighting for their playoff lives.
We’ve had this conversation a few times now. I enjoy it. And you make a compelling statistical argument that the Blazers do indeed have a better chance of making the playoffs than some of these other teams.
I approach it from an entirely different perspective: When we start showing our superiority on the court against the Dallases and Phoenixes and New Orleanses (feel like Gollum writing that!), that is evidence to me that we have a better chance of making the playoffs.
True, Greg Oden is starting to show something. And I too believe that Portland has a good chance of jumping to the next level. But I want to see that on the court before I’ll start saying they have the edge on the playoff race.
As it stands, I consider it probable that Portland will be in a dogfight.
I am very curious to see how this plays out. Should be exciting!
addendum
I know you are very familiar with this table at this point! But it is a good reference for our conversation. Look how close we all are. I am no statistician, but it seems to me with less than half the season played, and this kind of separation between the teams, a prediction about who is likely to be out is difficult to make…
W L PCT GB
LA Lakers 25 5 .833 -
New Orleans 19 9 .679 5
San Antonio 20 11 .645 5 ½
Denver 21 12 .636 5 ½
Houston 21 12 .636 5 ½
Portland 20 12 .625 6
Dallas 19 12 .613 6 ½
Phoenix 18 12 .600 7
Utah 19 14 .576 7 ½
You are right, of course
All we can do is talk probabilities, and it has to be done on the court.
Utah has fewer “certain” wins (I know, there’s no such thing, but home games against OKC are virtually that) than other teams. And they have more “unwinnable” games (again, no such thing, but playing in Utah one night and here the next, when we’ve been sitting waiting for them, is pretty rough).
Utah has enough talent, if they can put it together, to steal a few unwinnable games, win all the “certain” wins, and dominate everything in between. We all know that. But we haven’t seen them even approach that yet this year, and Boozer is out for another month or so. They could be in a very bad hole by the time he comes back.
The probabilities are not in Utah’s favor. And next comes Dallas. They barely got in last year, and they had a horrible start. Is the real Dallas the team that squeaked in last year, the team that stunk at the start this year, or the team that’s been on a tear? No one knows. It wasn’t a good idea to lose to them at home. Perhaps we can return the favor in a month.
If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President
OK
We’ve beat Phoenix, Denver, Toronto, and Boston while losing to Dallas in our last five home games. That’s 2-1 against Western contenders and a win against Boston as a bonus. Mixed in the middle, we lost at Denver. But obviously, we’re winning some games against the teams you are talking about.
What will convince you? If we knock off the Hornets and Pistons, but lose to the L@kers, will you be a believer?
After the L@kers game, we don’t even SEE another Western contender for 12 games. How we do against Western contenders isn’t all that important if we keep abusing the East and hold serve against the Least.
If we’re 45 games into the season and we’ve got a 5-6 game gap on the 8-9 spots, will that convince you, or will you still need to see us beating some Western teams? Because we won’t even really be playing them until then.
If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President
:)
Yes. Every game of separation from the 9 seed is huge. 5 games of separation with 40 or less to play? I’m with you. You’ve got to favor us at that point.
And you’re right. We really did get back on track after that 3 game skid.
I am going to qualify my bullishness on Utah based on what you’re telling me. ESPN was saying that the Spurs have a hard road too. I have been approaching it as a given that those two teams were in based on history.
Guess we have a whole season to coddle and curse our playoff hopes!
OKC
I don’t understand how at this point in the season we have yet to face OKC even once. They are in our division, used to be our rivals…and happen to look like 4 easy wins.
But Denver gets to get another win ahead of us today by beating up on them.
I hope we don’t go soft from playing all these easy teams before the playoffs.
we play OKC twice in april
It could hurt their game if the wins are too easy, but at the same time, we might need those “easy” wins to get a better seed.
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
I've heard..
that it’s because the league wanted to let some time go by before bringing the Ex-Sonics back to the NW. If we’d had, say, a home game against them on opening night, things could’ve gotten much uglier than one in April.
Sounds sorta crackpot, but also sorta sensical, so who knows!
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That's not fair
Just another proof that this league is rigged.
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