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Call Your Shot

OK, here's the big weekend topic...maybe the biggest ever.

Even non-Blazer-aligned folks will admit that there's a decent chance Portland is primed for a decade of dominance.  Any Blazer fan with a pulse is starting to dream of championships right now.  So here's your chance to call your shot.  I want to know the season in which the Blazers will win their first championship of this era.  Give us a specific season too, meaning using hyphens, not just the year "2010" (which could be 2009-10 or 2010-11). 

What's more, I want to know why you think that will be the year.  One of the things I hate about modern sports talk in all of its forms is that too many people just give half-baked opinions about every little thing and then only call attention to the ones that turn out right so they look like geniuses.  (That's why I seldom do this kind of thing here.)  Just reading "This year! Book it, dude!" is not illuminating.  Nobody will care in the end whether your year was right or wrong.  It's what you remind us to think about along the way that matters most.

Call your shot, explain your aim...enjoy!

--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)

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the blazers had so many problems as far as i can remember and no matter how talented they were they could not get it done. I hope they win the title in the 2009-2010 season, but I dont think they will win the title. I just say what I really think if that was the quetion.

by RipCity on Sep 5, 2008 11:39 PM PDT   0 recs

Yeah, that's fair

If you don’t think they’ll win one in the upcoming decade you can say that too.

—Dave

by Dave on Sep 5, 2008 11:52 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Unacceptable.

Pessimism should not be encouraged nor tolerated during this Blazer Era. Comments like that make me as frustrated as when fellow Oregonians (friends even!) tell me they won’t follow the Blazers because they still associate them with the Jail Blazers.

We have the youngest and likely the most talented team in the league with arguably the best coach in the NBA right now and hands down the best GM in the league. Not to mention an owner with deep pockets who loves spending money on our Blazers. What part of that scenario deserves any pessimism? You sound like an East Coast sports fan with that talk. We should be about hope.

Blazermania is back. Time to start drinking the kool-aid.

by fysho31 on Sep 6, 2008 12:35 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Unfettered optimisim

This drives my just as frusturated as the downers. Of course there’s a chance things won’t work out, and if we’re all only thinking of what can go right, then we’ll be mighty dissappointed when things go wrong. Of course, that feeling is because I’m so optimistic that I need to hold it in check in order to keep from exploding with blazer pride!

by Gelvalst on Sep 6, 2008 6:59 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm there with you

I don’t like to hold it back though. 08-09! Boom! I said it! Here we come to shock the world! lol

by MattyDread on Sep 6, 2008 9:19 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

dude

the quetion was not what i hope or what i feel about the blazers. It was what i think. I can see that we have all the talent but i cant imagine Blazers winning a ring, I just wish everything work out. As far as I can remember Blazers allways have problems, if its not jailblazers then it injury to our best players. It just seems to me blazers wont win i think if they get lucky and everything works out they have a chance to win, but its only hopes, thats all.

by RipCity on Sep 6, 2008 10:38 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

im mean

its still does not matter what we think or hope in order for them to win or not. If they win i will be real happy if they dont then they will have to trade bunch of out players so we have more hopes, and as the same quetion.

by RipCity on Sep 6, 2008 10:41 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Rip, at this point ....they might win it all multiple times

or they might not win it at all. Those who think that they will not are pessimists (by the very definition). Not a realist…but a pessimist. Remember, nothing is decided, yet. I can’t imagine watching games (and seasons) where I thought the team was gonna fail…forever. I would quit watching if I thought that way.

Styx -"I'm schizophrenic....and so am I"

by 92wastheyear on Sep 6, 2008 1:58 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

RipCity, care to explain...

why you think they wont win a title? I know you said that you think they wont, but why? Not enough talent? Too tough of a conference? Give us some specifics.

The inbound to McGinnis, drives, stops, pumps, shoots, short, no good...AND THE GAME IS OVER! ~ Bill Schonely

by SandbergOnSports on Sep 6, 2008 2:28 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Rip clearly means

that due to a long history of Blazer beatdown from 1978 forward therefore the future will resemble the past. Close but no cigar. I HIGHLY disagree but can understand that as a “Battered Wife syndrome” fan myself who has been there and seen the nightmare of blazer doldrums. This however feels very different it feels like 1990-92 but with a new feeling of confident dominance. I see at least 4 dyed in the wool winners on this team (Rudy, bayless, Oden and Roy) something that was sorely lacking in the early 90’s with only Porter and perhaps Williams really having that feel for me.

I believe it will be in 2009-10 if everyone stays healthy. This is because I think that if Oden’s potential dominance is realized the rest of our talented team will put us over the top. Oden is the engine of a giant truck outfitted with swivel mounted weapons of various sorts. The main gun (Roy) will take out most opponents and if not him then our surface to surface missle rack (outlaw, rudy or Bayless) will blow other teams off the road. Think “The Road Warrior” if Mel Gibson had unlimited ammo and weapons.

He's Coming! Oden Slayer of Giants

by Idog1976 on Sep 6, 2008 4:54 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

not exactly what i mean

Blazers had the longest streak making the playoffs and the only big mistake they made was not drafting Jordan other than that they were always one of the best. I just say that Blazers wont win cuz I dont have that feeling that they are super man. I feel that they are special team but i dont have that feeling like they are the intimidating team. Maybe after I see Oden play with athority I will feel different, but I dont feel like a pessimist, because the reality is not always going to go by our sweet dreams and we can only hope that Blazers will win. If some one has the proff or facts that show that the blazers will win then i want to see it. If I could see in the future then i would tell you if they won it or not.

by RipCity on Sep 6, 2008 7:47 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

A curse then?

It sounds like either you think the team is cursed, or have been burned by hope so many times, you’re afraid to get your hopes up.

It’s understandable. I mean, all our lives, we’re taught to not get our hopes up out of fear of having them dashed. Our parents went to great lengths to protect us from disappointment. I tend to think that allowing disappointment to cripple us is something we should grow out of though. Especially if there’s even the slightest iota of truth to the quantum theory that belief and expectation can influence the outcome of something.

I see a lot of people espousing “realism” that is not realism at all but rather cynical apathy in disguise. While I understand the need for skepticism in various walks of life to protect yourself, I don’t think professional sports fandom is one of them. It’s that one arena where (unless you have a compulsive gambling problem) absolute unchecked positivity and indulgent optimism cannot hurt you at ALL. So why not indulge and hope for the best, I say? ;)

by zaruga on Sep 6, 2008 10:50 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

ha ha ha

its not that i dont hope, acually I allready said I do. I will see how the blazers play this year and then make my pridictions cuz now its no point for me to do it. I just dont think that we are good right now to win it all and i dont know whats going to happen tomorro so I just leave it at that, cuz nobody knows if they will win or not. But in my point of view they are not ready now.

by RipCity on Sep 6, 2008 10:59 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

show some proof

that they won’t.

Styx -"I'm schizophrenic....and so am I"

by 92wastheyear on Sep 6, 2008 10:50 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

ok

just look at the blazers history its an answer in it self

by RipCity on Sep 6, 2008 10:54 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Ad Hoc ergo Propter Hoc

What’s the influencing factor that, by your words, always spells doom for the Blazers? The weather? Colliseum gnomes? Fate?

by zaruga on Sep 6, 2008 10:57 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

dudes

whats up with you guys. I just think that they wont win not because i feel depressed, i just say it cuz I dont see Blazers as dominant to win the ring. My opinion might change when I see how they play and see that they can hang with the best of them on a regular baisis.

by RipCity on Sep 6, 2008 11:04 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Irrelevant

Like they say in the finacial ads “past performance does not indicate future results”. These are not the same players.

Styx -"I'm schizophrenic....and so am I"

by 92wastheyear on Sep 6, 2008 10:57 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah

ads are just to make more money thats all

by RipCity on Sep 6, 2008 11:01 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

ok

they might win one ring but right now there is so much talent in the leauge that its hard to know who is going to win what and thats even not including injuries that happen along the way.

by RipCity on Sep 6, 2008 11:11 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

You

sound like you know what you are talking about. Look at the Yankees. Weren’t they in the same boat after they won their last title. Whats happened to them

life is like a bank, you can only take out as much as you put in. -Cal Ripken Sr.

by winnerwinner on Sep 7, 2008 6:51 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I dont think they are going to win another title

Unless they can really come together and win it by 2010-11 at the latest as the mayan calendar ends soon thereafter. When that happens their window will be shut.

Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.

by jonestr on Sep 5, 2008 11:51 PM PDT   2 recs

Mayan prophecy

You don’t think that our boys will be transformed by our passage through the center of the universe, and evolve into basketball infused super beings?

by zaruga on Sep 6, 2008 12:04 PM PDT to parent up   2 recs

an excellent point

it seems that you and I are the only ones who can shed the kind of insight that BE so desperately needs

Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.

by jonestr on Sep 6, 2008 1:23 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Indeed

It’s a universe half empty, universe half full thing I suppose. One man’s apocalypse is another man’s transcendence. ;)

by zaruga on Sep 6, 2008 10:44 PM PDT to parent up   1 recs

I saw that on Discovery or History Channel

And now I wish I had typed that. Poop.

by dvcastle on Sep 6, 2008 12:36 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

2010-11

We have too much talent on the team right now. We need to consolidate down to our core.. and then fill out the roster with reliable role players. I think it’ll take roughly 2 seasons to properly do that.

I do see the championship starting lineup looking like this… Bayless, Rudy, Roy, LA, & Oden….—> absolutely deadly!

I think both Webster and Outlaw are capable of filling that 6th man spot.. but I definitely see one of them moving on before or during the championship run. Frye and Pryz will ride it out… they’ll be money off the bench and happy doing it.

the wisdom of peasants is demonstrated in their ability to pretend that they are fools.

by sagebru5h on Sep 6, 2008 12:06 AM PDT   0 recs

You are right

This year we are going to beat Utah for the division title. Next year we are going to make an awesome run. The year following, 10/11, we start our dynasty.

I was thinking Webster would end up being the odd-man-out until I read the Outlaw article. It almost sounded like he had one foot out the door. Too bad, he’s my favorite.

In your lineup, are you saying that Rudy Fernandez is our small forward?

by dvcastle on Sep 6, 2008 10:24 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

not necessarily...

We will have a unique backcourt. it has been discussed in other threads, but I see Bayless, Roy and Rudy rotating positions from offense to defense in order to compensate for Rudy’s “poor” defense. I say “poor” simply due to the fact he lacks the strength to keep large small forwards out of the paint… Roy would do much better. Nonetheless, the offensive potential for this lineup is unfathomable… and that is why I see a three guard lineup.

the wisdom of peasants is demonstrated in their ability to pretend that they are fools.

by sagebru5h on Sep 6, 2008 11:18 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I likey

Love the idea of having our best 5 out on the floor.

by dvcastle on Sep 6, 2008 11:47 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Too much talent on the team

That’s always a problem. Bring back Josh McRoberts and Taurean Green.

One of my fan posts got 50 signatures. And you thought I was egotistical before. But nobody can do Ego like I can.

by jscot on Sep 6, 2008 1:30 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

good points

i think you are right with the line up of bayless, rudy, roy, la and oden… i see the team being like during their 13 game winning streak where they had a different guy step up each night with core stars LA, Roy and Oden. The challenge is they have so many potential all stars in LA, Bayless, Rudy, Outlaw and even Webster… I have this gut feeling Webster breaks free and has a big year

by HisBoyElroy on Sep 6, 2008 1:39 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

go ahead and shoot me

I see magic this year, or possibly next. Something BIG is going to happen….

There is probably no more terrible instance of enlightenment than the one in which you discover your father is a man — with human flesh.
Paul Muad'Dib - Dune (Frank Herbert)

My Translation: My Dad is a dude just like me, and my sons are dudes like me also. I love that.
Season Tix: Section 315

by johnv59 on Sep 6, 2008 12:21 AM PDT   0 recs

PS

I have been watching the NBA for over 35 years, so I’m not just being a homer… But of course, I could be very wrong! ;-) Can’t you “feel it in the air”? Here it comes Blazer fans…. get ready for the ride!

There is probably no more terrible instance of enlightenment than the one in which you discover your father is a man — with human flesh.
Paul Muad'Dib - Dune (Frank Herbert)

My Translation: My Dad is a dude just like me, and my sons are dudes like me also. I love that.
Season Tix: Section 315

by johnv59 on Sep 6, 2008 12:27 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

The Magic will win? ;-)

I don’t have them penciled in to win the East until 2010-11 when they might land a front-court of Chris Bosh and Dwight Howard. Then we might meet in the finals…

Odenied: Asked whether he noticed Oden favoring his right knee, Frye dismissed it entirely. "He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors."

by Norsktroll on Sep 6, 2008 1:44 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm almost with you

I think if the Blazers stay healthy and Nate utilized the bench, that the Blazers can go deep into the playoffs. I think in seven games they can beat any team in the NBA. I also know that sometimes LeBron or someone else throws a turd in the punchbowl and messes everything up.

I figure the Blazers potentially could win at least 10 rings. I also feel that LeBron, is going to get a ring one day. Boston will still be good next year. The Spurs are old but they’re not done. If the Blazers stay healthy, I don’t know why they can’t win seven rings. Shaq and Kobe should have at least six rings if they could have just gotten along. I see the Roy/Oden combo as similar to that combo and the Blazers also have LA. Oh and Rudy, Bayless, and Frye, and Outlaw, and Webster, and ….

"Belly up again, on a non conference road game." - Guess who ESPN was talking about.

by tominhawaii on Sep 7, 2008 12:57 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

2010-2011 (probably a popular answer)

Like others I see this year as a maybe/probably playoff year with lots of improvement but a lot of growing pains assimilating new, key players who haven’t played in the NBA before. Hopefully we make the playoffs barring injuries to key players. Big upside is we win the NW division (I think this is do-able).

2009 offseason: decisions about Blake, T-law, etc re: picking up last year of contracts and whether to sign any free agents. Nate’s contract gets extended.

2009-2010, the key players really start to gel and we make a deep playoff run. Optimistically they take the title, but I think they probably aren’t there yet by then.

2010 offseason: KP may hold cap space for this year and in doign so may be a relatively big name on the team, although they may not need it. Lots of other big names move around.

2010-2011: Team is powerful and other top teams are still working out kinks with new superstar players moving teams. BRoy and LA are in their 5th years and the team takes the title.

put a body on 'em

by RayBourque on Sep 6, 2008 12:43 AM PDT   0 recs

PS

sorry about the typos – normally I proof better but it has been a “fun” night . . . .

put a body on 'em

by RayBourque on Sep 6, 2008 12:45 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

hanging out with the captain? LOL

There is probably no more terrible instance of enlightenment than the one in which you discover your father is a man — with human flesh.
Paul Muad'Dib - Dune (Frank Herbert)

My Translation: My Dad is a dude just like me, and my sons are dudes like me also. I love that.
Season Tix: Section 315

by johnv59 on Sep 6, 2008 7:43 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

2010 - 11 yes

Moved from “The Junk Drawer”, for my convenience.

Our other "Number One" Center drafted, played four years of College Basketball, under a legendary Coach.
He led us to the NBA Championship in his third year. The PTB had been building with high draft picks for a few years but where new a this process of building and had a priority of providing immediate entertainment, not winning a NBA Championship.

Then there was the ABA dispersal draft. A couple key ingredients were added to Our Team. Bill Walton was in his third year of NBA play (classic) 24 years old when we won it and started to dominate. There was a Coaching change also to handle the high performance team that was assembled.

G.O. is very young, with one year of College Basketball and another of recovery from injury observing the NBA play.

I am not that impatient to expect immediate domination by Greg in his first year. He has a great Team to play with. I will enjoy the couple Seasons of development. Oden will still be younger than our last Center that led us to the "Promised Land".

If Our Boys surprise me vying for the NBA Championship sooner than 2010 – 11, they have exceeded my expectation and are one of the most exceptional NBA Basketball Teams ever.

"He doesn't let grass grow under his feet when there are points to be had." - Dave

by BlueBooYay on Sep 6, 2008 2:32 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Recreating my reply in the junk drawer

Walton played in only 86 games total the first 2 years because of injuries. In his rookie year he shot over 50% and scored 12.8 per game with 12.6 rebounds and 2.7 blocks. If Greg plays most of this year he is capable of similar numbers. So using Walton as your reasoning doesn’t seem appropriate unless you are predicting only 35 games this year for Greg. Walton was healthy his third year and we won the championship.

Aldridge said. "We feel like we can beat any team. We feel like we can beat the Spurs, Suns, Lakers, Mavericks, whoever any night right now, and we'll still be here when those teams get old and their guys retire. We're going to be here for a long time."

by lee3022 on Sep 7, 2008 1:40 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Not sure

But I will go with 2009-10. My reasons:

Internal

1. Portland will have had a year of the present team growing together, with most likely no major moves coming (the talent is there, and chemistry trumps messing with that). They will gorw into the roles more fully year after next.

2. Portland teams don’t slow burn to the top. Every contending team we’ve had came out of nowhere (excepting the 99-00 team, but that was due more to the nature of how that team was assembled). 76-77, first playoffs, first title. 89-90, would have been the same explosion of RIP CITY and surprise as the 76-77 team, had they won it. We talk about the 99-00 team, but what about the 98-99 team? Who saw them coming? This point is a stretch to extrapolate, but I have a feeling they will win earlier than expected. we always have had that surprise vibe, and we seem to have shed that choke vibe as of late (the closeouts this year were noteworthy given our recent history).

3. System. Each successful era had players buying into a system they knew (again, 99-00 was a different beast from what I remember. System was our biggest disparity against the Lakers), and Nate has been here long enough to have a feel for the players and they a feel for his system.

External

1. Age. Off the top of my head, I think we will be seeing a less evenly balanced field in the next couple of years, with more top teams declining than there are up-and-coming teams taking their place. That is not to say competition will be weak, but the also rans will be of diminishing quality (we already started seeing that happen this year). Kobe, Duncan, Garnett will be great still, but older.

2. Windows. LA, New Orleans and Houston (and maybe Boston/Detroit) look to have good windows right now (assuming Houston can stay healthy, a big assumption. Same for Boston). A lot of other teams need to do more than just bench tooling to be in that same category in 09-10. In two years the landscape could (and will) look different, but we have the best starting point right now, and are set up better than any other team right now, meaning putting it all together (mentioned above) is the last step, and coming up soon.

3. Free Agency. We all talk about how getting one player can turn a franchise around, but no one talks about the time frame. As good as stars are, they have an adjustment period as well. The quick results are usually the players who come in and match perfectly a system already in place (Buck for us, Rodman for Chicago, Clyde for Houston). Lightning in a bottle like Boston is not bankable, and the players in that class don’t strike me as the type to be a Buck or Clyde or Rodman; i.e., will need time to adjust/can be exposed by better teams.

I will never waste a beer. There are too many sober kids in India. -Rod Benson

by supremepuntiff on Sep 6, 2008 12:47 AM PDT   2 recs

Well done.

Love the break down. I think our window gets smaller after 2009-10. I also think that’s when we need to make our push. It’s far enough down the road that our core will have some good gel, but soon enough that our spirits won’t be dashed by too many previous shortcomings. I worry that if it takes too long to make our run we lose that drive from our young talent.

by fysho31 on Sep 6, 2008 11:15 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Thanks

I don’t have to write anything. I agree on all points.

One of my fan posts got 50 signatures. And you thought I was egotistical before. But nobody can do Ego like I can.

by jscot on Sep 6, 2008 1:33 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

2012

Why don’t I justify it? Because anything anyone could say here is just blowing smoke. There isn’t a single person in the world who knows if some player will end his career with a freak injury, much less predict how they’ll develop.

If you know enough and have the skill to make a justifiable guess, you’re wasting your time on basketball.

Punctuation and grammar makes the difference between "He helped his uncle, Jack, off a horse" and...

by Farty MacFartson on Sep 6, 2008 12:58 AM PDT   0 recs

That's the beauty of the question!

At this point, we can’t be wrong! All this pessimism and negative feelings! Where is it all coming from??

by fysho31 on Sep 6, 2008 11:12 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

2011-2012

One year for the team to play with Oden, Rudy and Bayless

One year for them to make a deep playoff run

One year to hedge my bet

In 2011-2012 they’ll all be at the beginning of the prime of their careers

by grimc on Sep 6, 2008 1:04 AM PDT   0 recs

I can't really make a well thought out prediction because I don't know

how Bayless and Fernandez are going to fit, and how good they will be. If Bayless turns into the great point guard we need him to be, Fernandez plays like Manu off the bench then I think the Blazers could win it next year or the year after. Realistically probably the 2010-2011 season.

When Roy said it takes some luck he wasn’t kidding. This teams success is heavily depending on whether or not Oden, Aldridge, and Roy are healthy during the playoffs.

by BRoyInThe4th on Sep 6, 2008 1:09 AM PDT   0 recs

2011-12

My initial thought was 2010-11, but I’m going to change it now.

08-09 – year of decisions, probably return to playoffs, the journey begins

09-10 – post RLEC/Salary Cap aquisitions, Oden/Rudy start year two. finish in top 4 in West. Adjustments made with other departures/acquisitions. come up short in WC Semis

10-11 – we are rolling now. win NW division, top 2 seed in West. one of the favorites to win it all. however, we come up short either in the WCF or Finals

11-12 – we come back from the disappointning end to the ’11 season, and roll through the league, finishing with the best overall record, which lead to a Game 6 home victory over LeBron and the New Jersey Nets.

Rule #1 of nitpicking is to get it right.

by douglast on Sep 6, 2008 1:22 AM PDT   0 recs

I would have to go with 2010-11 season

but I wouldn’t have considered this team going for .500 last year. My reasoning for the year is 2 fold. First, there seem to be 2 types of teams when there is a lot of potential. Those that disappoint and those that deliver when no one sees it coming. I think that if this teams has the opportunity they will take full advantage of that. They should be able to be a bit better than a dark horse for a title run at the end of next season, and as long as there is a reasonable shot at it (ie. there isn’t a team out there that for certain has them beat before they step into the arena) then I think I would have to say this team will rise to the challenge. Second, the way KP has wheeled and dealed so far, and given our current situation, there will be a lot of chips on the table in the next year. That man should be able to play the hand that he’s put together well and accelerate the time table. He should be in a position to put together a deal that will be tough for most people to refuse, and get that piece that we need.

The safe answer would be 2010-2011 or even the following season. I would go with that too, but for the afore mentioned reasons I have to give the edge to the summer of 2010. I think there is a good shot for the playoffs this season (to say the least). If this team makes it into the second round this year, thus confirming my suspicion that they rise to challenges, then I think we could likely see the mission accomplished by 2010.

by einman77 on Sep 6, 2008 1:24 AM PDT   0 recs

Championship: 2008-2009 (and beyond)

I think experience has become overrated in recnet years, largely due to the success of the SAS, Pistons, etc. If we make the playoffs this year (which is highly likely IMHO), I think we have as good a chance as anybody to win the championship. More so because we have a deep team on paper. I don’t think it will take as long as people think for our team to gel, and I think that should happen within the 82 game season. If we can get our rotation set by the 65 game mark or so, and are in a position to get into the playoffs, I think we can wear out every team we face. Consider that our only weakness is our youth, and lack of proven stars. Let me put it this way. If Greg Oden and Rudy Fernandez have seasons good enough to be considered for ROY, there’s no reason that we won’t have enough talent to beat anybody in the NBA next season. No team has as much potential depth as we do, and that is an absolute fact.

Andy Roddick has the most wimbledon titles in the world. He just hides them in Federer's trophy case

by premthegrem on Sep 6, 2008 2:09 AM PDT   1 recs

Excellent point

Once the “second season”, aka the playoffs, begin it is a whole new deck. Either we are everything we think we are or not. If we make the playoffs this year then that shows we are, and our depth appears staggeringly good.

If we make it to the playoffs at all, why not all the way?

by dvcastle on Sep 6, 2008 10:31 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

2009-2010

This year we make it to the WCF and get beat, either by the L*kers or Rockets (if Yao is healthy). The “surprise factor” was brought up earlier, and I believe its a valid one. However I dont think it will be enough to take us all the way this year. Its a wonderful pipe dream and all, but the reality is there are some really good teams on the horizon and not just the Blazers.

However, the Blazers certainly have the components to become the greatest out there. The team we have right now is already shaping up into something to be proud of. The chemistry and work ethic alone are something to behold. We have a team that is deep enough in the bench where we could just out hussle other teams. By the time most starting players get to the playoffs, they have played the equivelent of 70-82 games by themselves with bench players filling in the remaining time. With our bench, our starters will be lucky to see more then 60 total played games. Thats a huge advantage. And for an already young team to have that. Wow. Those will be some exciting fast paced playoff games. Why do you think analysists look at benches during the playoffs so much? Its because the players who carry a team the furthest into the playoffs usually are the bench players. Those wonderful “X factor” players. We already have a load of them.

As for the gel period, I have this sneaky suspision that the team is already there if not pretty dang close. We have a team of selfless players who want to go out there and play team ball. Granted we still have some spots to figure out (like PG and SF) but it will happen this year, and it will happen faster then people think.

Its a great time to be a Blazer fan for sure.

"OK, it's going to rain tomorrow. And there is going to be a Greenpeace meeting and hippies are going to be protesting" ~ The Buffet of Goodness on Portland

by Blazer on Sep 6, 2008 2:23 AM PDT   0 recs

I think

that the Blazers match up well against the L*kers.

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by CaptainSexyJacob on Sep 7, 2008 1:19 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

It's all in front of them.

I’d give them one year to gel, a second year to fine tune and go fairly deep into the playoffs, and then expect a deep run and a possible championship in the third year. This assumes that Oden stays healthy.

Next year will involve so many things, and it will be a continuing learning curve for the entire team, and especially the coach. Oden changes how every position on the Blazers is played – just as Walton did his first year. Aldridge and Frye will now focus solely on the PF position. The days of needing two bodies and two games to play two different positions are over. TO will equally be able to now focus on his true position in the NBA – SF. There’ll be better interior rebounding, more blocked shots, and better outlet passes, and the wings will need to get into that flow. And, at guard, we have two different dynamics. We have a new playbook because of Oden, and we have two new guards – both of which will be learning the NBA, Mac’s playbook, and working on improving those areas of their game needed for the team as defined by the playbook. And, as their games improve, indeed as everyone’s games improve, the playbook will continually change. Mac and his coaches will be gelling multiple dynamics – and probably getting their fair share of sleepless nights. There’s a reason Mac commented that he stayed awake all night after watching Rudy play thinking about where and how to use him. He’s probably done the same thing with Oden, and perhaps even Bayless.

All along, Mac and KP will be carefully evaluating these players, as next spring and summer they can still make another move – if they think it’s necessary.

Personally, I don’t speculate on trades right now. One thing I really like about the players we have is that everyone seems to be working very hard to be the best they can be. Further, they seem to be willing to sacrifice personal statistics for team success. Dave’s comments on teamwork were so relevant yesterday. Spain, who very likely didn’t have a single player that would’ve made the US team, was still very competitive. We don’t need superstars at all the positions – anymore than the 77-78 Blazers did. And next year we’ll learn if the players we have, working within the system we can now put in place, can do the job we need done to win a string of championships.

Like so many have already said – it’s a great time to be a Blazer fan. This isn’t, after all, Boston, or Miami of a few years ago, where one year you’re lousy, the next you’re a champion, and the third you have to confront the fact that the only reason you won the championship is you grabbed a couple of superstars towards the end of their careers whose skills will never improve – but only decline. The Blazers have it all in front of them.

by Eben Calder on Sep 6, 2008 6:31 AM PDT   0 recs

2010-2011

I am going to say this year as it will allow us a year to play with our new big free agent acquisition and solidify the rest of the lineup in terms of rotation. It would be great to say this year, but the team will not be gelled enough to do it, I do think they will make it to the second round in the playoffs. In 09-10 we will make the big shake-up and get our missing piece. This year we may actually make it to the Western Conf Championship or even the finals, but I think we won’t quite be ready in terms of how solid our rotations need to be (then again an entire season of playing together will get us close. The 2010-11, the big year. We take it to Lebron and the Knicks and go all the way.

by besaroboy on Sep 6, 2008 8:16 AM PDT   0 recs

09-10

Portland is going to add that final piece this season to the puzzle, we all know Raefs contract is going to land us a premium Player(Battier) Portland will need to go through a playoff run even if its a first round and out. This season has to be viewed as an audition from every player on the team, once the week links are completely identified Portland has what it needs to correct any and all its personel moves for the future.

  I hate to sound kinda negative but the landscape is going to change in our top 8 by next summer some of the fan favorites and devloping players are going to be gone. Roy,and LA will be going into there 4th seasons and will be nba journeymen, Oden will be turning 40 and his window may be on the decline,(ooops) Rudy has more experiance at the pro game then anyone on the Blazers except Joel. I would almost bet that we only have 6 players that are regulers on the floor with this club come training camp in 09 We will have youth dont get me wrong but the Sergios’s and the Outlaws of this team days are numbered(feel free to insert Martells name here) .

Portland gets to the second rnd. this season, and wins the championship in dominating fashion in 09-10.

by Dragonage on Sep 6, 2008 8:31 AM PDT   0 recs

#25

"Besides, AnntheFan will be here any minute to #25 you." T Darkstar

by annthefan on Sep 6, 2008 11:32 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

eye roll here

"In this galaxy alone there's a mathematical probability of three million Earth-type planets, and in all the universe three million million galaxies like this one, and in all that only one of each of us." -- Dr McCoy, to which my cat brays upon the Doctor's numbers, knowing the universe is infinitely more inhabited, and what's up with the price of tuna these days?

by bow4meow on Sep 7, 2008 8:18 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I would love

to land Shane Battier, or any other wing defender (Tayshaun Prince anyone?). The thing about Outlaw is he is too offensive minded, and that’s not what we need anymore; we have Alrdidge, Oden, Roy, Rudy, and Bayless who can carry offensive loads, not to mention other players who are capable of hitting shots. Bring Prince or Battier to Portland!

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by CaptainSexyJacob on Sep 7, 2008 1:23 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

2009-2010.

Our team will revolve arund Roy & Aldridge. King Kevin will hear by kight them both as ready and fully able to carry the load. But the weight they carry will be decptively lighter than the most noble of stars and there in lies the key to this years quest for the holy grail.

Our kights 3-11 are off the charts in talent. Points. We have so many men who are gearing up physically and mentally, taking the offseason workout so seriously it is downright scary.

But the key to calling this s