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Oden Tweaked His Ankle -- Don't Freak Out

Just got back from open practice. Oden spent the portion that was open to the media riding a workout bike, after apparently tweaking his ankle.  He was walking a bit gingerly but it didn't seem to be bad. The initial report from Coach McMillan downplayed it as a non-issue, and said that Greg had participated in the rest of the practice (prior to the media access period) and had looked good. 

Just thought you'd like to be the first to know.

More thoughts tonight.

-- Ben (benjamin.golliver@gmail.com)

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Noooooooooooo

first RLEC having surgery, now this!!

He who laughs last thinks slowest.

by prezofdeath on Sep 30, 2008 12:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Seriously, if its a non issue please dont print it. the fact that it is released makes me

wonder a bit.

Sophia

"i'll try to find 'em- an' i'll breeng um too yuh"- Sarah Palin
I detest that man who hides one thing in the depths of his heart, and speaks for another. - Homer

by BlazerFan1 on Sep 30, 2008 12:49 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Has to be released

It’s the first day of practice with tons of media there. The question of why Oden was riding the bike instead of playing had to be addressed.

I’m not worried.

by Storyteller on Sep 30, 2008 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

its my fear talking.. dont mind me

"i'll try to find 'em- an' i'll breeng um too yuh"- Sarah Palin
I detest that man who hides one thing in the depths of his heart, and speaks for another. - Homer

by BlazerFan1 on Sep 30, 2008 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's hard to not

freak out when things keep happening to him. Even small things.

My favorite teams are the Blazers and any team that is playing the Lakers.

by OCBlazerFan1 on Sep 30, 2008 12:52 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm freaking out!!!

"They are all human. There's nobody I'm really scared of, or worried about playing against." -- Bayless

http://www.myspace.com/y5k

by Y5k on Sep 30, 2008 12:55 PM PDT reply actions  

ME TOO!!!!! Man.

I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich

by hobobob on Sep 30, 2008 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's like sending your kid off to the first day of school

Yer worried about every little thing. Then, by high school, you could really give a ….
But for now, I’m freaking out!

"They are all human. There's nobody I'm really scared of, or worried about playing against." -- Bayless

http://www.myspace.com/y5k

by Y5k on Sep 30, 2008 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eh

he’ll be alright, it’s just a tweak.

Witty Unpredictable Talent and Natural Game

by iDea on Sep 30, 2008 1:01 PM PDT reply actions  

But wait...

Can’t any basketball-related injuries (or life-threatening illnesses) be cured by the blood of Brandon Roy?

by Griff on Sep 30, 2008 1:05 PM PDT reply actions  

going for a swim?

"They are all human. There's nobody I'm really scared of, or worried about playing against." -- Bayless

http://www.myspace.com/y5k

by Y5k on Sep 30, 2008 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can't find a bridge!

The chorus of this song makes me think of our dear center GO.

Blazers Edge has an alarmist vision

by tominhawaii on Sep 30, 2008 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Arrrgggg

The Midnight Rambler. Born to make mistakes.

by amlmart1 on Sep 30, 2008 1:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh no!

"They are all human. There's nobody I'm really scared of, or worried about playing against." -- Bayless

http://www.myspace.com/y5k

by Y5k on Sep 30, 2008 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

LMA has WPW?

i remember learning about that last year in med school :)

by nima on Sep 30, 2008 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, detected last spring. But apparently they were able to correct it for good with a catheter ablation.

That’s why I think it’s safe to make a little joke about it.

We're young in age, but deep in experience - Brandon Roy.

by Norsktroll on Sep 30, 2008 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Martell had a similar if not same ailment

He also had it corrected.

Really weird that two people on one team had it, kind of a statistical anomaly. It happens though.

by Timmay! on Sep 30, 2008 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Speakin of that:

I never did hear the diagnosis on Martel’s irregular heart beat of late last season. I’d almost forgotten about it.

Was it really WPW? Somehow I doubt it as that is a quite rare condition. Is that what was reported? I missed it if it was.

I think we need to chill out on Oden’s ankle. If every little ankle tweak is going to send out shock waves, then it’s going to be a grueling season for some.

by TwoDeep on Sep 30, 2008 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't THINK it was WPW...

…but yeah, I remember it being reported but can’t remember the exact cause. Mighta’ been dehydration, and Martell was pushing himself too hard.

They diagnosed and felt comfortable with whatever caused the irregular heartbeat though, I do remember that much.

Everyone twists an ankle, I see nothing to worry about. This long build up is gonna kill us.

Once we see him play, and he is Oden, everyone can just let out a sigh of relief and stop grinding our teeth in worry. I know I ain’t worried, but at the same time I just wanna SEE him out there in a Blazer jersey, destroying the morale of the enemy.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Sep 30, 2008 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

People, People, people,

I know the weather is starting to turn glomy here in Portland, but we must remain positive here and not freak out.

THE POWER OF POSITIVE THINKING PEOPLE

The season cannot get here soon enough.

by SpyderRyder on Sep 30, 2008 1:12 PM PDT reply actions  

So I am also supposed to believe Comcast is coming to Central Oregon?

Whistling…Wishing on a star

Aldridge said. "We feel like we can beat any team. We feel like we can beat the Spurs, Suns, Lakers, Mavericks, whoever any night right now, and we'll still be here when those teams get old and their guys retire. We're going to be here for a long time."

by lee3022 on Sep 30, 2008 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whoa, whoa slow down there. Now lets not go getting

all crazy now, that wont be happening for at least the next decade, as Crapcast is the spawn of the devil, dont you know that by now??

The season cannot get here soon enough.

by SpyderRyder on Sep 30, 2008 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

AKA L@kers?

Aldridge said. "We feel like we can beat any team. We feel like we can beat the Spurs, Suns, Lakers, Mavericks, whoever any night right now, and we'll still be here when those teams get old and their guys retire. We're going to be here for a long time."

by lee3022 on Sep 30, 2008 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

+ 1

    or Southern Oregon !

It's GO time !

by walkoff41 on Oct 1, 2008 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

WIth all of that muscle weight and coming off of knee surgery hopefully

the trainers are really working on building his ankle strength. Not to say that will keep you from having minor “tweaks” but it is an often overlooked element of training.

I remember reading a book by Pete Egoscue where he talked about a professional basketball player that came to see him with knee problems. After careful examination he told the player that his knees were fine and that the problem was that he had weak ankles. The player was miffed saying, “my knees are killing me”. After doing the ankle exercises that Pete gave him his knee pain disappeared.

The knee pain was a symptom. Pete Egoscue has some great books worth checking out.

I'm a little confused by your tactics

by oderiferous emanations 74 on Sep 30, 2008 1:20 PM PDT reply actions  

I appreciate the "Don't Freak Out" part of the headline

It kept my heart from skipping a whole bunch of beats.

by Corvid on Sep 30, 2008 1:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, we might not freak (much)

But can you imagine the media? They are probably having a hayday over this.

When asked about his thoughts during the Olympic games about playing against Kobe Bryant and Dwight Howard, Rudy responded "My first thought was respect. My second thought was to kick their ass".

Man I love him.

by twiggs on Sep 30, 2008 1:31 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm not worried about this "injury"

in particular… it’s just the fact that it’s the first day of training camp and something happens to him. I hope this guy can make it through an 82+ game season.

Oden+Roy+Aldridge+Rudy+Bayless=Dynasty. Believe

by OdenRoyLMA on Sep 30, 2008 1:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Roy also cautioned in his media day interviews that Rudy might play a little to active for the long NBA season

Well, he will learn to rest and save his energy soon enough.

In other news, Beasley strained his groin and is ALWAYS HUNGRY. That would worry me more. Derrick Coleman anyone? http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_basketball_heat/2008/09/beasley-hurt-ea.html

We're young in age, but deep in experience - Brandon Roy.

by Norsktroll on Sep 30, 2008 1:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Not to mention that Rudy will not be playing that many minutes

at 20-25 minutes a night with frequent timeouts, intermissions, etc you can go pretty full tilt. He is not lugging much weight around either.

I'm a little confused by your tactics

by oderiferous emanations 74 on Sep 30, 2008 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not good … hopefully not bad either.

by NBR on Sep 30, 2008 2:13 PM PDT reply actions  

I think we need to make a sacrifice, just to be sure.

Anyone got any chickens?

Blazers Edge has an alarmist vision

by tominhawaii on Sep 30, 2008 2:20 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I have a goat.

or we could just sacrafice nick jonas.

Sophia

"i'll try to find 'em- an' i'll breeng um too yuh"- Sarah Palin
I detest that man who hides one thing in the depths of his heart, and speaks for another. - Homer

by BlazerFan1 on Sep 30, 2008 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

No

Sacrifice the ugly one. Take Kevin.

Blazers Edge has an alarmist vision

by tominhawaii on Sep 30, 2008 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

My new place

Comes complete with a herd of runt deer and a dozen turkeys,the deer are more or less local pets and to small to bother with anyway but nobody cares about the turkeys and they are easy to get but I dont have much experience with the sacrifice thing.link?

by southern oregon on Sep 30, 2008 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

within 3 hours two reporters from the oregonian have written on it.

i’d call that a story.

BRANDON ROY GET WELL SOON

by Ben Golliver on Sep 30, 2008 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

What did I say?

Damn media.

When asked about his thoughts during the Olympic games about playing against Kobe Bryant and Dwight Howard, Rudy responded "My first thought was respect. My second thought was to kick their ass".

Man I love him.

by twiggs on Sep 30, 2008 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

people were freaking out for sure.

there’s a lot riding on that ankle…….

BRANDON ROY GET WELL SOON

by Ben Golliver on Sep 30, 2008 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

"there’s a lot riding on that ankle……."

That is one brilliant line. Not just because he’s so big, but because he was on the exercise bike.

I’m quite proud of myself that I didn’t spit coffee all over my keyboard. I’d be even more proud of that if I’d actually been drinking coffee when I read it.

The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.

by jscot on Oct 1, 2008 3:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't point to the Oregonian as the bastion of top caliber reporting

This whole ankle scare thing is just pure sensationalism from the top down.

BINGO, BANGO, BONGO

by blzrfan on Sep 30, 2008 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oden's injury history, combined with the number of people there today

Made this a story. It’s not like he had a hangnail or something, it was a situation that kept him out of practice.

I’ll feel better when I hear he’s practicing again.

by Timmay! on Sep 30, 2008 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wrong.....Read Quick's write up

Oden even says he feels good enough to practice tonight. Only the media is freaking out. This should have been a footnote at the end of an article.

BINGO, BANGO, BONGO

by blzrfan on Sep 30, 2008 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

This just in from Sportsfine.com:

(AP) The string of injuries plaguing heralded Portland Trail Blazers rookie Greg Oden remains unbroken — unlike Oden’s tibia, according to team officials speaking from Providence Medical Center.

Oden appears to have fractured the tibia after colliding mid-air collision with fellow rookie Jerryd Bayless. Oden landed on a teammate’s foot and crumpled to the floor like a wad of cellophane on a hot grill.

Oden’s much-anticipated professional debut, already delayed by microfracture surgery on his left knee a year ago, will be delayed again, this time for at least four months, says Providence orthopedic surgeon Ian Brittle.

Blazer GM Kevin Pritchard, when asked whether Oden is injury-prone, replied testily, “He’s injured and he’s prone, so sure, I guess you could say he’s injury-prone.”

Oden could not be reached for comment, but reporters at Providence could hear a voice in a room nearby saying, “I’m sorry, I’m so sorry” repeatedly.

"Personally, I'd rather give an elephant a prostate exam on Chili Day." --Dave on rooting for the Lakers or Celtics

by MiledAnimal on Sep 30, 2008 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

not funny

I'm a little confused by your tactics

by oderiferous emanations 74 on Sep 30, 2008 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Totally uncool man

When asked about his thoughts during the Olympic games about playing against Kobe Bryant and Dwight Howard, Rudy responded "My first thought was respect. My second thought was to kick their ass".

Man I love him.

by twiggs on Sep 30, 2008 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

-1

Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.

"I think it’s going to be very beautiful game next year."
-Nicolas Batum

NorrisHopper30: "someone injure pubert jones"

by rockingharder on Sep 30, 2008 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

minus ten

Every child must be encouraged to get as much education as he has the ability to take. We want this not only for his sake-but for the nation's sake. Nothing matters more to the future of our country: not military preparations-for armed might is worthless if we lack the brain power to build a world of peace; not our productive economy-for we cannot sustain growth without trained manpower; not our democratic system of government-for freedom is fragile if citizens are ignorant.

-President Lyndon B. Johnson

by saregister on Sep 30, 2008 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Look, Ben has a new post!

[Running out the side door while everyone’s distracted]

"Personally, I'd rather give an elephant a prostate exam on Chili Day." --Dave on rooting for the Lakers or Celtics

by MiledAnimal on Sep 30, 2008 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

The title of this should be

“Don’t Panic”

In nice large friendly letters. It’ll make people feel all warm and fuzzy.

Yet… you didn’t do this… so i’m FREAKING OUT!!!

Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624

by ratbastird on Sep 30, 2008 2:53 PM PDT reply actions  

DON'T PANIC!!!!

Feel better?

The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.

by jscot on Oct 1, 2008 3:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Injury prone!

Blazers Edge has an alarmist vision

by tominhawaii on Sep 30, 2008 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Always bringing out the positives

:)

When asked about his thoughts during the Olympic games about playing against Kobe Bryant and Dwight Howard, Rudy responded "My first thought was respect. My second thought was to kick their ass".

Man I love him.

by twiggs on Sep 30, 2008 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Practice Tonight

we’ll all feel better if someone reports he’s back at practice tonight!!!

by broyposse on Sep 30, 2008 2:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Get the man

some high tops!!

My favorite teams are the Blazers and any team that is playing the Lakers.

by OCBlazerFan1 on Sep 30, 2008 3:39 PM PDT reply actions  

And not the same

ones that Derek Anderson used to wear.

My favorite teams are the Blazers and any team that is playing the Lakers.

by OCBlazerFan1 on Sep 30, 2008 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

check out the 3:25 mark

Because that’s how I felt when I saw this headline.

Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.

"I think it’s going to be very beautiful game next year."
-Nicolas Batum

NorrisHopper30: "someone injure pubert jones"

by rockingharder on Sep 30, 2008 3:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Bill Walton...Sam Bowie

Don’t tell Blazer fans not to panic when their stud center is reported to be limping

by two4larue on Sep 30, 2008 4:16 PM PDT reply actions  

All along, I've proably been as concerned with

Oden’s injury potential more than most anyone. But tweaking an ankle …. come on.

Still, I would love to see Oden pare back by 15 to 20 lbs the weight his knees and ankles are supporting with every step and jump he makes.

by TwoDeep on Sep 30, 2008 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Those of us who lived through the Bill Walton sagas

will always believe any injury to the feet or ankles of a big man is serious. The do heal but they mount up. That is a huge pressure to the feet and ankles when landing a high-jumping big man.

Aldridge said. "We feel like we can beat any team. We feel like we can beat the Spurs, Suns, Lakers, Mavericks, whoever any night right now, and we'll still be here when those teams get old and their guys retire. We're going to be here for a long time."

by lee3022 on Sep 30, 2008 5:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Here's hoping

Oden doesn’t have ridiculously high arches like the Big Redhead

by two4larue on Oct 1, 2008 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Longsuffering Blazer fans

deserve a healthy, dominant big man, the L-kers have had their share in the past 30+ years

by two4larue on Oct 1, 2008 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Experience it & learn from it, Big Man

I want to see you in the first game of the season.

I want to see you in the Play Offs.

I want to see you winning Games that count, for the next ten years.

Learn from it, Big Man, that’s all I selfishly ask.

"You're really making me feel good about myself, little man," says Oden as he starts dancing after scoring a goal. "You better come harder than that."

by BlueBooYay on Sep 30, 2008 6:15 PM PDT reply actions  

All right - so what KIND of limp was it, anyway?

Was it the I-could-play-on-it-if-this-were-a-meaningful-game-but-it’s-practice-#1-so-I’ll-keep-my-weight-off-of-it-even-though-I-don’t-really-HAVE-to kind of limp?
Or was it more of a genuine, for-real, true-injury, I-can-not-put-weight-on-it limp?

"Mister Oden is a very, very big human being." - Jerryd Bayless

by QualityPie on Sep 30, 2008 6:34 PM PDT reply actions  

And I caught the mention about him playing the night shift after my question about the limp.

Okay, so it really is a big nothing.
[ phew ]

"Mister Oden is a very, very big human being." - Jerryd Bayless

by QualityPie on Sep 30, 2008 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or was it the

I-could-play-if-Coach-weren’t-going-to-make-me-run-hard-later-with-that-stupid-drill-he-does-every-year-and-I-don’t-want-everyone-to-know-I’m-a-wimp-about-that-stuff kind of limp?

The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.

by jscot on Oct 1, 2008 3:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

now I'm past "freaking out" and moving onto

anger.

That ain’t cool. I was looking forward to a report on how our gental ball poping giant was doing and ben gets the plunger.

I feel burnter than I’ve ever been burnt.

"the Knicks are an ongoing experiment in sporting altruism, with the motto "We suck, so you don't have to." This is the designing principle. Stop overcomplicating things."
-jawaan oldham

by faith on Sep 30, 2008 7:43 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm sorry but . . .

I read “gental ball poping” as “genital ball popping.” Not a good image.

by Corvid on Sep 30, 2008 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol.

no apoligies, I think I’d have read it that way too.

"the Knicks are an ongoing experiment in sporting altruism, with the motto "We suck, so you don't have to." This is the designing principle. Stop overcomplicating things."
-jawaan oldham

by faith on Oct 1, 2008 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

The media had me freakin' out

Fox led off with “Greg Oden was injured at practice today” and I flew to my computer, but couldn’t find it in any national sports websites. This is not a big deal if the national sites haven’t picked it up and headlined it yet.

Travis Outlaw is an alien, but in a good way.

by Clevelander among roses on Sep 30, 2008 10:18 PM PDT reply actions  

are you afraid that...

greg oden is injury prone. the mere mention of “dont be scared” suggest that it is in people minds (and perhaps his and the teams?). If it wasn’t in everyones head “dont be scared” wouldn’t be in the headline.

by mandoman10 on Oct 1, 2008 12:24 PM PDT reply actions  

just to add...

also, perhaps, being injury prone is like 80% mental: if you think you are injury prone and are worried about it then you actually get injured alot. You expect to be injured. I actually think there is something to that and that is why we see the same players get injured over and over again every year except their contract year (baron davis and everyone else you can think of).

by mandoman10 on Oct 1, 2008 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

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