Thursday Discussion: Ranking Teams/Eras
A quick perusal of Blazer history reveals at least two, perhaps three, great teams/eras.
The first chronologically was the 76-77 season through most of the 77-78 regular season when Bill Walton got injured. Though that era lasted only one and a half years it brought the only championship to the franchise and has to be considered as one of its most glorious moments.
The second great era came to fruition in the fall of 1989 and lasted through the '92 NBA Finals. These were the highlight years of the Drexler era. Though they did not produce a title those teams were beloved by some even more than the 70's crew. The 90-91 team still holds the franchise record for most regular season wins and the team won more playoff games in that three year stretch than in any consecutive three years combined before or since.
The Conference Final runs in 1999 and 2000 could perhaps be considered a third shining era, though it combined the faults of the first two: being short and not winning a title (or even making the NBA Finals). Those Rasheed Wallace teams had more talent, considering the roster as a whole, than either of the previous eras.
A two-part question:
1. How do you rank these eras in your own mind, using any criteria you wish (stats, historical significance, community influence, gut feelings, personal allegiances, whatever)?
2. Project the current Blazer team ahead a decade or so. Where will they end up ranking on this list and why?
--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)
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99-00 1, 76-77 2, and 89-92 3
For me, I’ve got to rank the Rasheed teams top, merely because those are the ones I remember the best. I remember the whole town being swept up in it, and KGW coming to my 4th grade class because we were all dressed up in Blazer gear.
The Championship era teams come second just because they won a title. I’ve read about them, and can’t wait for Portland to hopefully experience another championship team soon.
The Clyde teams rank last for me simply because I don’t remember them, and they didn’t win a title. That’s not to say they are a bad team, but for personal importance to me 3rd is where they rank.
If this iteration of the Blazers can have any kind of run of success, even if it is similar to the Rasheed Teams (the least successful on this list) would put them at first for me. Once again, it all comes down to relevancy. I was fortunate enough to see many games over the last two seasons, and I feel like they are my generation’s team.
by usdblazerfan on Sep 3, 2008 11:57 PM PDT 0 recs
Era's
In my opinion you have to rank the 76-77 era as the best. Even if you did not live through it it has become legendary. The Blazers won the Championship with a team and in a fashion that is still talked about today.
I’ll put the 90-91 era second. That team was amazing. In so many other time frames that team IS a World Championship team. Denied the big prize by the likes of Thomas, Dumars, Jordan and Pippen, Drexler, Porter, Buck, Duck and Kersey are 5 names that any true blooded Blazer fan can say with ease. That team was a joy to watch and despite falling short of a World Championship that team endeared itself to the entire state of Oregon.
The 1999-2000 team had it’s moments but they get ranked 3rd. As much as I enjoyed watching Sabonis, as much as I admired Scottie Pippens talent and yes, even marveled at the ability of Rasheed Wallace there was always the feeling that the team was Bob Whittsits “experiment”. I always had the feeling looking at the roster and the constant influx of talent that Whittsit was allowed to obtain that success was inevitable, unfortunately I looked at the same roster and often concluded that eventually failure was also inevitable. Some good times, but it was a big expensive roll of the dice that didn’t really produce, one of the better Blazer teams ever assembled but the only thing legendary about that team was the record breaking payroll Paul Allen maintained.
"Mother Nature started this fight, I think it's about time we ended it!"
by Krang on Sep 4, 2008 12:09 AM PDT 0 recs
The New Era
…oops forgot to add. This current Blazer team could certainly create it’s own mark. Project a decade ahead? Too hard to do. If everything goes as planned this Blazer team could easily be the next Blazer team to win a Championship, or even multiple Championships. But hey, we are a franchise that should know all about the winds of fate. About the best you can do is build for success and then deal with the reality as it unfolds. I certainly like what seems possible and would like nothing better than to have Brandon, Oden and Crew change the rankings of the 3 era’s of The Blazers. In a decade I hope it’s no contest.
"Mother Nature started this fight, I think it's about time we ended it!"
by Krang on
Sep 4, 2008 12:19 AM PDT
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Well Put
Well said Krang. I like that you acknowledge that despite the future looking very bright, nothing is guaranteed in sports (or in life in general for that matter).
by MrGrinch on
Sep 4, 2008 7:04 AM PDT
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Very well said
Can’t add much more at all…The Walton era was quite a roller coaster ride, but those 2 seasons included some of the best basketball I have ever seen…They were not as athletic as the 90’s team, but they were absolutely unbeatable in 77 (Until Walton got hurt)…I have never seen a fast break executed as well, past or present, as this team…It was this era that ushered in Blazer mania and grabbed up 10,000 extra fans ….You could say Portland became one of the “established” franchises in this era
As for this version of the team ….Yes, we are along way off and predicting the future is impossible…But the future does look bright……2 years from now, we can better compare this team. We haven’t proven anything yet and we are still missing a player or 2
by 67 on
Sep 4, 2008 9:50 AM PDT
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Well said. Tough to disagree.
Very well said. Tough to disagree. We have taken steps to be better, and yes we haven’t proven anything yet. Moves need to be made and experience is there to be gained ( post season ). Still we have a good core, and if we keep it together good can happen.
by CanadianBlazerfan on
Sep 4, 2008 5:49 PM PDT
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1) 76-78. They won it all, and were it not for some bad fortune, had a shot to win multiple titles
2) 89-92. A bad bounce here or there, and the misfortune of coming into their own at the end of the Magic era in LA and at the beginning of the Jordan era in Chicago. Had they broken through once, the era likely would have extended a few more years.
3) 99-00. Short run, somewhat different teams each of the two seasons. A hodgepodge collection of stars, former stars, and “names” rather than a true team buit over time. Was always going to have a short window of opportunity that had little chance of sustaining, even if a title would have happened in ’00
The current team has the potential in my mind to easily be #1. obviously that potential has to be realized. If we look back in 10 years and have 1 title and another finals appearance or two from this team, it surpasses all the other eras. however, I think we’d also all see that as a dissappointment.
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by douglast on Sep 4, 2008 12:20 AM PDT 0 recs
89-92 #1
I think being consistently great is better than a Miami-like short-lived run (which I consider 77 to be like). I’d rather have a bunch of good years than just a couple. But I could be persuaded otherwise maybe, since I was born in 81 and didn’t have the pleasure of actually experiencing the championship.
99-2000…just a bunch of hired guns, really. Not many of them were born-and-bred Blazers (so to speak). That puts them #3 for sure.
by jamon51 on Sep 4, 2008 12:20 AM PDT 1 recs
I know it's blasphemy
…but I’ll be surprised if the current team doesn’t end up far outshining those earlier glory squads. That’s simply because this team is built to last. Of course, “the best-laid plans of mice & men soon go astray”—more often than not. But I really don’t see that happening this time, barring a devastating run of injuries. The team is just too deep and too stocked with talent and leadership—from the GM on down.
Even if these Blazers ultimately only win a single title, like the Walton team, it appears they’ll likely contend for a decade or more. So we’re talking about thrilling hoops action year in and year out. This is a once-in-a-lifetime ride we’re in for: following a team loaded with talent, character, & youth.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
by hurryup09 on Sep 4, 2008 12:40 AM PDT 0 recs
Definitely the Drexler era
The Drexler teams really were champions. Other than Jordan finding the ‘zone’ in a few games and they’d have been the champs. Great chemistry and role players.
The Walton run next … short but sweet.
The teams at the turn of the century really never captured that magic.
I think Brandon and the boys are really something special. To be honest, championships aren’t every thing. I think they are really recapturing the city after so many down years. It’s gonna be fun.
"You know when to say 'Yes', you know when to say 'No', everyone goes home in a limousine." - 'Fast' Eddie Felson
by TP for 3 on Sep 4, 2008 1:55 AM PDT 0 recs
my ranks...
- - 89-93. 2 main reasons:
- Longevity at the top of the league
- Faced the highest level of competition the NBA has ever seen, and they were top 5 every year.
- The model team for the Portland franchise.
- - 77-78
Maybe this really should be 1a and 1b. Because each era is special unto itself. This team was a couple of healthy knees away from reeling off 3 championships in a row. And they ran the fast break as well as anybody has ever run it in the league. Just beautiful.
- - Present era
I think this era has already pushed the Jailblazer era so far out of reach, I think everyone in Portland is feigning amnesia and blocking out the years of JR Rider and Rasheed Wallace. It’s all a blur. They will quickly achieve similar on-court success as the 99-00 team, and have a legit opportunity to come away with a championship when it is all said and done. Brandon Roy and Lamarcus Aldridge have already become all-time favorites, easily replacing the likes of Sheed, Bonzi, and Damon (Sabas, you’re still safe).
- - Jailblazers
Quite the enigmatic era. When they were winning, nobody really cared about the off-court trouble. When they began to lose, it was hell to pay. The deadly idiot’s disease was rampant in 2000. That was their championship to lose… and they lost it. Was Donaghy in that game?
by mcmillion on Sep 4, 2008 2:14 AM PDT 0 recs
I cared about the off-court nonsense
and so did a lot of other fans. If they had won the title in 2000, it would have been tainted by the poor behavior of some of the players.
I shoot layups like they're jumpers.
by MiledAnimal on
Sep 4, 2008 4:31 PM PDT
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Agreed
I had to hold my nose to root for that team. Rasheed’s tantrums to the officials were especially embarrassing. Then when he thru the towel in Sabonis’ face, that was the last straw. Or was it Bonzi’s spitting on the opponent? I forget now—those guys were such jerks. Good riddancce.
And welcome to the likeable bunch of guys KP has brought in. Watching them grow together and eventually celebrate playoff game wins (hopefully beginning this year!)—it’s gonna be great.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
by hurryup09 on
Sep 4, 2008 6:49 PM PDT
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done
- Drexler Blazers: Best team the Blazers have ever had…yet.
- Walton Blazers: Won the title, but disappointed the following season due to injuries.
- Roy Blazers: Best looking team in decades. Roy is the savior, Oden is the key to championships. The rest is gravy.
- Wallace/Sabonis Blazers: Great individual players, but couldn’t function as a team, thus the 2000 breakdown.
by koyote on Sep 4, 2008 3:33 AM PDT 0 recs
Start with current team
The current team has the potential to surpass them all in my list because the core group are all Blazer draft picks and of course have the talent and seemingly the committment and drive to win. The way the team has been built contributes to the connection I feel to the team. Which leads into my rankings of other eras…
1. Drexler Era – This team was built slowly and with a lot of failed experiments (Kiki and Bowie are the two that stick out) but good, low draft picks over time led to this team’s success. Even Drexler though he was expected to do well in the NBA fell to #14 because of questions about his outside shot. But all of these guys achieved their success through hard work and reaching higher than people thought they could.
2. Walton Era – Championship, teamwork, tough, gritty play, buying into the coach’s system. Best Blazer team ever if not for injuries. I think they were 50-10 in 1978 before injuries decimated them.
3. Rasheed Era – Hard to root for this team at the time. I was excited when they were winning games but I always felt they could have been more dominate if the committment to winning had been there. I didn’t mind getting Pippen and Detlef the second year but was kind of disappointed they broke up the entire young second unit in favor of an old, fading star approach. I thought they would win it all but i thought they were impatient with youth and traded away a shot at a longer run for a chance to win now. Oops…No championship.
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by tssbro on Sep 4, 2008 7:05 AM PDT 0 recs
I can't imagine
anyone in the age group of young adult to adult during that Walton era voting for anything but the 76-77 team. There is no comparison. Nor is it likely, that there will ever again be a team that so totally consumed a city and state as did those “red hot and rolling” Blazers of 76, 77 and 78.
I remember telling him how impressed I was with a player during summer league. In Avery's unique voice, he replied, "Marc, it's summer league." I
by TwoDeep on Sep 4, 2008 8:26 AM PDT 0 recs
My views are similar to many here...
… in that they largely reflect my own experience with the team. I moved to Portland in the spring of 88. (I had come from Syracuse where Mark Bryant was finishing his senior year.) I didn’t become a Blazer fan until they traded for Buck Williams. His arrival coincided with the Blazers becoming one of the most feared and best loved teams in the league. How that love from the fans compared to the Walton era team, I don’t know. So my opinion is potentially biased. With that said:
1) Walton era – not only did it bring the only championship, it established a love affair between the Blazers and the fans that made an NBA franchise is a small market viable.
2) Drexler era (or as I call it the Buck years) – the best, most sustained period of excellence in Blazer history and the team that made me fall in love with the Blazers.
3) Wallace era – say what you want about Bob Whitset, but he pulled off one of the more difficult feats for a GM in any sport – retooling a team without losing a beat. This was perhaps the most talent laden team in Portland’s history and one I found it easy to root for. If we could only replay that game 7.
I’m also going to have to agree with hurryup and others about the Roy (and soon to be Oden) era. They have already managed to generate a huge amount of excitement in me and have helped reunite the team and the entire organization with its fans. A 50 win season and the playoffs this year cements them at no lower than 4th all-time, no matter what might happen beyond that.
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by timg56 on Sep 4, 2008 8:31 AM PDT 0 recs
It's close but not that close
76-78 Blazers win. While they were short lived, they played as pure a basketball game as I have ever seen. The offense was a thing of beauty, defense lead to fast breaks and the crowds were unbelievable. This truly was a TEAM for all time.
Drexler Era – Gave us some fantastic basketball, thrilling wins, but always a bit short. They won more from forcing their brand of basketball on others then being a team that executed flawlessly. Sometimes they won in spite of themselves and always eventually lost because of themselves….but just by a hair.
99-2000 I never quite connected to them in the same way I did with the other two teams. I wanted them to win, but I didn’t feel that I was pouring my whole heart into them as I did the others.
Current Team – My heart is with this team, I want them to succeed moreso than any since the Drexler days. I anxiously await. I think they will be more like the Drexler teams where they will force their will on others. I hope they gell into a team such as the Walton led gang. But really I think they will have their own identity and hopefully a place in our hearts to equal if not bypass the other teams listed above. I’m crossing my fingers……And toes…..And legs…….and anything else I can find…..
by blazermaniac32 on Sep 4, 2008 8:52 AM PDT 0 recs
The Skinny on Short Shorts
Jack “crazy slacks” Ramsey brought a style of play to Portland that emphasized pressure defense and an attacking offensive scheme. There was a lot of ball movement and frequently 100+ scoring games. It was like a moth to a flame- a super hot red-head and a hell-of-a balanced team, but gone all too soon.
Rick “I learned the game from Jack” Adelman continued the basic coaching philosophy but had a different talent set. Clyde the Glide set the tone as he was one of the few guys at the time that could completely take over a game. Again, the team was very balanced and focused on a running, quick hitting style that was very fun to watch.
The other incarnations had some good runs, but I never felt that there was a cohesive thread to the team. Either the coach and players weren’t on the same page, or personality become more important than team play.
I think this current crop has the potential to be one of the best. Out top fellers seem to be team first and coach has been getting better at shaping a vision of excellence. I’m not sure the offense will be as exciting, but the wins will make the micro-beer taste like honey.
by ralphzillo on Sep 4, 2008 9:07 AM PDT 0 recs
A very simple equation
Ring > no ring
But does that tell the whole story? Is a team with a ring necessarily better than a team without a ring? Yes.
by tiesque on Sep 4, 2008 10:01 AM PDT 0 recs
Nope
If this team goes to the Finals year after year and gets edged time and time again, or heck…gets edged in the playoffs by the Fakers or Spurs or Hornets….but they play as a team and do their best, I’d that way ahead of trading everyone away for one title run, ala the Boston Celtics. Teamwork, camaraderie, growth…for me, that tops a mortgage-the-future-for-a-title-run team.
So for me, it actually goes like this
Blazers of the 90s — they were together for quite a while and had an amazing run. And heck, they were a ton of fun. Friendly guys…you see them on the streets walking and talking to people, doing goofy things like Bust a Bucket, etc. Very friendly, very exciting, very good.
Blazers of the 77 title — This is where Blazermania started, but the party ended very soon…before anyone got to really know them.
Blazers of 99-2000 — Good team, but here we mortgaged the future for a title run. We gave away players like Jermaine to get Dale Davises, Scottie Pippens, and Steve Smiths. Didn’t really get to know the team and they never knew us.
As for today’s team, I’d actually put them in between the 77 team and the 99 team. I already think this team is more enjoyable from a fan’s perspective, because we know them, and they know us.
"I think that the team that wins game five will win the series. Unless we lose game five."
Who else? Charles Barkley
by prezofdeath on
Sep 4, 2008 2:21 PM PDT
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My Take
Walton era = thats when it all began RIP CITY BABY!!!!!! not to mention the only ring we have
Drexler years = The most talented group so far. So close but at the same time inconsistant. I mean they go to the the conference finals and then have the best record the next year but get bounced and then back to the finals. This team had great seasons but poor post seasons, they revert, and the better TEAMS win.
‘Sheed time = man that was fun on the court and not so fun of it, saw the collapse coming.
Have you noticed the regression? We win the title, then only get to the finals, then only get to the conference finals, then we get bumped in the first round, then we can’t get to the playoff. Well here’s to reversing the trend
by SamGoody on Sep 4, 2008 12:05 PM PDT 0 recs
Old School
I saw all those teams (my age is showing)….I’d have to rank 76-78 1st not only because of the championship, but because I actually went to 2 playoff games (the Bulls series/best 2 of 3). A lot of people forget but that series was probably the toughest matchup we had. All 3 games came down to the wire, and we could have easily lost in the 1st round. Seeing that team closeup (I was in the first level of the MC) was amazing and I’ll never forget it.
90-92 is a close second. I loved that team. Someone else said it above, the names Clyde, Buck, Terry, Jerome and Duck will live on forever in Blazerland.
99-00 bringing up the rear for me. I liked (most) of the players, they went deep….but the devastation of the WCF Game 7 loss just about sent me off the deep end. Still hurts to even think about it.
I sincerely hope our new team outshines all of the above. Go Blazers!
by hellsfrozenover on Sep 4, 2008 12:58 PM PDT 1 recs
99-00
The thing i remember most about that season was when I waited on Kobe Bryant at the restaurant where I worked. We had just acquired Pippen and I couldn’t help but to talk a little trash to him about how good the Blazers were going to be in that upcoming season. Although we did have an amazing year, he ended up getting the last laugh by knocking us out of the playoffs….at least he left me a good tip!
by kikifromdowntown on Sep 4, 2008 2:11 PM PDT 0 recs
Just curious,
How was his meal and how much did he leave?
"I think that the team that wins game five will win the series. Unless we lose game five."
Who else? Charles Barkley
by prezofdeath on
Sep 4, 2008 2:16 PM PDT
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kobe's diet
It was at Planet Hollywood in Las Vegas. He had a personal cheese pizza and a virgin pina colada and left me a $20 bill
by kikifromdowntown on
Sep 4, 2008 2:20 PM PDT
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Interesting
I’m always curious as to what a guy with hundreds of million buys for lunch. Does he buy $5 dollar Little Caesar’s pizza? Or does he get some crazy $100 specialty pizza? Does he leave a 10% tip or does he drop a Benjamin on the table?
"I think that the team that wins game five will win the series. Unless we lose game five."
Who else? Charles Barkley
by prezofdeath on
Sep 4, 2008 2:24 PM PDT
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Is there such thing..
as a $100 specialty pizza?!
Does it have pearls, gold and blowfish as a topping? I’d love to see/hear what a $100 pie would consist of.
"Well, Travis just showed us that we can go to Travis Outlaw." - Nate McMillan
by 12sharks on
Sep 4, 2008 11:20 PM PDT
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I still hate Bob Whitsitt
- is the Walton era due to the championship, nuff said.
- is the CTBDJ (Clyde, Terry, Buck, Duck, Jerome) era
Man, I’ve been watching the replay games on Comcast Sports net lately, and they were better than I remember them being. Short shorts looked really bad, I can’t believe we didin’t see errant man jewels from time to time.
- is the Brian Grant era (it was never Sheed’s team IMO).
The feeling I had, the week long depression after that game 7 collapse is still the feeling I rate personal sports heartache by. I was in college at the time, and I was ready to go wait in line for finals tickets while studying for my Spring Term finals. These teams had some heart, but lacked leadership once B Grant was shipped away for a pot bellied Shawn Kemp. That trade alone solidified Bob Whitsitt as the dumbest smart person ever in my mind.
But being honest is all I do well.....
by SuperDave on Sep 4, 2008 2:26 PM PDT 0 recs
There was a reason why Whitsitt had to do that
I was discussing this with a well-known Portland sports columnist once and he told me that Grant had to leave town for personal reasons. I wasn’t sworn to secrecy about this, but I’d rather not say what happened.
I shoot layups like they're jumpers.
by MiledAnimal on
Sep 4, 2008 4:38 PM PDT
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WHAT!!!?!!!???!
You’re just going to leave us hanging? Not even a hint???
Pleeeaaaassseee!!!!
by Dmartyparty on
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You want me to subject
a popular former player and his family to public humiliation?
Sorry, Brian Grant is not Sarah Palin and I don’t work for the mainstream media.
I shoot layups like they're jumpers.
by MiledAnimal on
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Wow Dave.... talk about opening up pandoras box for longest individual replies
for now:
77…. #1
This is only at the top of my rankings because it is the only championship to hang our hat on. However as short lived as it is… I would easily rank it the lowest of the 3 if they had only made it to the finals.
90…..#2
This is the team that I grew up with and saw grow from scratch. With the exception of Ainge and Ely…. most of this team was drafted and matured within our own means rather than by Trader Bob moves. This is why I love our current team so much. Home grown.
99…..#3
All be it this team was close to the finals… this is my least favorite of the 3 only because it was ‘trader bob’d’ together. Everyone came here as a mercenary type recruitment.
When all is said and done…. our current team will easily surpass the Rasheed days purely because there is no controversy, there is no ‘Pippens’ that come in and claim the ‘savior’ role. Everyone ( you can’t really count Blake or Prz ) on our team has come in and become a team that was built from the ground up. I love this team for that specific reason…. we have all been waiting and seen this team evolve. If this team claims a championship it will easily surpass anyone of the above era’s. For as long as these kids keep their heads and ego’s clean and out of trouble… .you have to enjoy this team the best.
vERYkERRPLEX...... stop asking me what the #$% it means!
by Kersey Lives on Sep 4, 2008 2:53 PM PDT 0 recs
Wow the first concise response
Although I only remember the 1999-2000 directly, I must say:
1# – 1989-1992
2# – 1977-1978
3# – 1999-2000
This year is NOT a building season!!
by collectiveshane on Sep 4, 2008 3:14 PM PDT 0 recs
Blazer team rankings
I’d like to preface this by saying that I’m ranking these based on my opinion on the talent level of the team and the accomplishment of the dynasty. I’m not really including how the city reacted..
1. 1977-1978
Pros:
This was an amazing team with one of the greatest coaches ever and, so far, the greatest Blazer coach ever. The team was deep with unassuming and underrated talent.
Cons:
This team was unfortunately short lived for how young it was. Also, it is important to note that the league was in quite a transition period during this time and while there was a still alot of talent, there were not a lot of truly great teams in this era. I sometimes think that management jumped ship too early on Bill Walton and his team and that things may have ended up different if they had held the pieces together until at least 1980.
2. 1989-1992 (this could even be considered the 1986-1992 team)
Pros:
Long term success against some of the greatest teams of all time with a team stacked with all-stars and great role players. They recovered well from the double disappointment of Sam Bowie and Mychal Thompson (whenever i think about how much potential today’s Blazers I have.. I remember about how amazing that front court might have been in an alternate reality) and were entirely legitimate contenders. They also played great defense for a western conference team!
Cons: Obviously, they did not win a championship and finally had to sit back and let Clyde go win one with Houston. They were only around a seven player deep team, and I think this hurt them more than once when they got to go against deeper Pistons and Bulls lineups. They should have figured out a way to have gotten Sabonis over earlier!
3. 1999-2000
Pros: They had great players, a good coach, and they won games. They were strong on both ends of the court.
Cons: They weren’t built for sustained success and got less than the full potential of their great players. They had a golden opportunity to sneak in at least a Finals appearance, but instead had two disappointing ousts in the Western Conference Finals. And instead of building off of that frustration to get further.. everyone got pissy about either lack of playing time or lack of production and the lack of team cohesion became obvious.
Finally, I would nearly rank today’s Blazers ahead of that 99-00 team. In terms of talent being gathered for long term success, they are lightyears ahead of that team. They obviously haven’t accomplished enough to put in this list until at least we see how they handle themselves in the playoffs. But if I go back on my initial criteria of not counting the city’s reaction, it is amazing how many of us in Blazermania-land have fully embraced this team when they haven’t proven anything or even posted a single winning season. Winning is not the only thing that makes a great team and I think that in ten years we will seriously have to think back to these years when we were gathering assests and potential to understand how far we really went. It real feels like KP has built this team better than ANY past Blazer team to a degree that could only be compared with the legitimate great NBA dynasties of all times. It feels like even if something unfortunate were to happen to a key member of this team that we would still find ourselves ahead of the pack because we have so many assets. And if the stars align and everything rolls into place as it is planned.. well.. then we will be one of those legitimate great NBA dynasties.
by idoltime on Sep 4, 2008 4:40 PM PDT 0 recs
The first one is always special
no matter how sweet others may be. The 1977 team put Portland on the national map and transformed a city. The capper was when Ken Howard on his TV show, The White Shadow, said in a 1978 or 1979 episode that he loved three things, and the third one was the Portland Trailblazers. My friends and I were watching that episode and got a kick out of it. The 1977-78 team was the trailblazer team for all future Trail Blazer teams.
However… if the current team wins, say, at least three championships, they may supplant the 1977-78 team in my heart.
The Drexler teams were one star short of winning multiple titles, which they would have done regardless of Isiah, Magic and Michael. They played to the best of their abilities — a Rick Adelman trademark. I put them in a tie with the current team for second place.
The Jail Blazer teams were a waste of Sabonis and oxygen.
I shoot layups like they're jumpers.
by MiledAnimal on Sep 4, 2008 5:00 PM PDT 0 recs
Here goes...
Even though the only championship in Blazer history happened a year before my birth, I think I have to rank the 77 team number one. The more I read about Bill Walton the more I like him (even though my first impressions of him as a broadcaster were negative. He always seemed to be unfairly harsh on Portland. Although, Steven A. Smith, has become enemy number one in that regard since.). Mo Lucas was/is a badass and I loved the celebration scenes after the victory.
Number two has got to be the 89-92 team. This was the beginning of my Blazer-fandom. I barely ever got to see a game, but we listened to everyone on the radio. Bill Laimbeer’s three point shooting in that double overtime loss to Detriot will always haunt me. I also remember being up pretty good on the Bulls in a critical game when Jordan went crazy with all HIS threes. The thing that keeps this team out of number one in my book, is Clyde Drexler. He was my hero, and while I can’t blame him for Jumping off the Blazer’s sinking ship, I will never be able to forgive him for representing Houston ever since the trade. He was OURS most of his career, and even though he is a Houston native, it broke my heart to see him wearing the Rockets coat in that 50 greatest players of all-time ceremony.
Of the three eras mentioned, the one I got to see the most of on TV was the era that ended in 2000. These guys were also my guys, no matter how many Techs Sheed got, or what a jerk Bonzi was, or how many times Stoudy got busted for weed. None of that mattered to me, I kind of liked the bad boy image. The reason why these guys are 3rd is because the most lasting memory of their era was the game-seven 4th quarter collapse that cost us a championship. (we would have killed the….Sixers, wasn’t it?) Everything else about that team, to me, is buried beneath that disappointment.
Now, onto this current team. These guys EASILY have the chance to surpass all of the other three. But if no real winning, if no real deep playoff runs actually happen, then it will just be remembered as that time I was SO EXCITED by a team that never did anything. These guys have the chance to be number one in the books of Blazer fans for generations to come. I mean look at me. I put a team that I wasn’t even alive to see as number one. Trust me, my kids will never be able to forget it should these guys get multiple championships over the next 10 years. Future generations will read about this team and wonder why Channing Frye is so tough on the current (future) Blazers in his broadcasting comments. The next 50 greatest players ever list could include more than one Blazer. Who knows? The next great chapter in Blazers’ history is poised to be written. Look out league, here we come.
by MattyDread on Sep 4, 2008 5:08 PM PDT 0 recs
It was the pacers
that the 2000 team would have played against…. And yes, I think we would have won…
by Blenzer on
Sep 4, 2008 5:15 PM PDT
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Once again
I’ve stated this a couple of times here, but Clyde was an current member of the Rockets when the 50 greatest players thing occured. It would have been a slap in the face to his current team to wear another team’s colors. If he had done this after he retired.., well that’s a different story.
by coolguyrob on
Sep 4, 2008 11:30 PM PDT
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this is very difficult
90’s team and the 77 team have to be tied. The 90’s team was more talented and had a longer run but was never able to win it all so they can’t be above the 77 team. In the same respect the 77 team holds our only championship but they were terrible the year before and didn’t really do much after. No one doubts their amazing abilities, they are hanging from the rafters for peets sake! They were both amazing so they both are number 1.
00-01 Team was very exciting to watch! They had such amazing talent, everyone was a
Blazer fan until that WCF finals game 7. Many people were willing to accept their poor behavior even look the other way until that big loss. This team will be overlooked after a decade or two so I don’t really think they rank with the other three.
Present This team has the ability to leapfrog them all. If they can win at least 2 championships they will be considered one of the best teams of all time, not just for the Blazers but for the NBA. It really adds up to are they legit enough to stay healthy and get it done with all the other young studs in the league. I think they can, and will,so I say this will be the greatest Blazer team to ever take the court.
by The Natural ala Mode on Sep 4, 2008 5:57 PM PDT 0 recs
Why do so many of you say the 90s team was more talented
than the championship team? Walton’s presence alone eclipses the 90s team. You had to see him play to know what I’m saying. Other teams were triple-teaming him when he was a rookie. He had it all: post moves, mid-range shots, hook shot, ferocious rebounding, shot-blocking, running the floor, leadership, and especially passing. His recurrent foot injuries robbed not just the team but the world of an amazing talent.
The 90s team had Clyde, but he was a second-level talent, not on Walton’s or MJ’s level. The rest of the players on that team were solid and athletic but not much better than Walton’s gang excluding Walton and definitely behind the 1977-78 team when you include Walton.
I shoot layups like they're jumpers.
by MiledAnimal on
Sep 5, 2008 9:26 AM PDT
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huh?
First off I did say that the 90’s team was more talented I said they had more longevity at the top. First off it is a well known fact that the league was in it’s peak during those 90’s and that the 70’s well not quite there. Talent level was tremendous from Patrick to Micheal to Magic to Clyde…yes Clyde, your belief that somehow Clyde was second tier is ridiculous. The league was littered with one namers and Clyde was a starting all-star and named one of the 50 greatest all-time just like Walton. I think Walton and Clyde are different players for sure but on the same level of talent.
by The Natural ala Mode on
Sep 5, 2008 11:26 PM PDT
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RINGS are the (only) THINGS (that matter)
- 77-78. If you don’t value the ONLY team to win a ring as the best team – SO FAR – well, all I have to say is, think BIG! Good is not good enough!
- 99-00. Except for an inexplicable collapse, would be considered one of the better NBA championship teams…
5) 89-92. Close but no cigar doesn’t cut it. See Buffalo Bills.
- If the 2008-2018 Blazers don’t win more than one title, let’s face it, it will be a huge disappointment. This spot reserved for the best title run (2/3, 3/5) during the Oden Era.
- Reserved for the second best title run (another 2 later on..)
Remember, you heard it here first…
by Visionary1 on Sep 4, 2008 11:06 PM PDT 0 recs
Easy to Please
I realize that the team that is assembling before our eyes seems like it should have the championship longevity to attain multiple titles. That being said, if the Blazers were able to win just one championship with this core, I would be very happy. I think I’m just anxious for them to win a title in my lifetime.
by MrGrinch on
Sep 5, 2008 7:02 AM PDT
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weird
something weird with pound signs I guess..
My rankings were:
2 – 77-78
4 – 99-00
5 – 89-92
1 – best run of the 2008-2018 Oden Era
3 – second best…
by Visionary1 on Sep 4, 2008 11:07 PM PDT 0 recs
BE uses the pound sign to create a numbered list
For example, if you type three pound signs, followed by at least one space and one character, on three consecutive lines, like this:
- A
- B
- C
When you followed your second item with two carriage returns, you ended the first numbered sequence and started another one.
I’m sure this website is full of interesting tricks waiting to be discovered…
I shoot layups like they're jumpers.
by MiledAnimal on
Sep 5, 2008 9:32 AM PDT
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Surprised..
there was no poll, or that the last “sorta” team was not the yet-to-be-proven 2ks.
I’d have to vote for the aforementioned, as I’ve only been following the Blazers since their doghouse years. ’77 sticks out to me as their one main triumph, however.
I’d love to see, this being a slow news month and all, a point-counterpoint of Blazer legacy vs. Blazer expectations here on the BEdge. That would be some serious Swersky [stuff].
"Well, Travis just showed us that we can go to Travis Outlaw." - Nate McMillan
by 12sharks on Sep 4, 2008 11:25 PM PDT 0 recs
Late 70's Blazers #1
I don’t remember them, because I was four when they won it all, but I think that the late 70’s Blazers were the best. They would have at least repeated in 78 if Walton doesn’t go down. I heard that team started 50-10 that year. After that, I would have to say the early 90’s teams would be second. These are the teams that made me a Blazer fan. I will always remember them, however, as the team that got close, but was missing one piece to the puzzle. And that piece was overseas. Add Sabonis to that team, they are a dynasty, not the Chicago Fools. I would then have the 99-03 teams third. I am counting up to 03 because that is the last time the hodgepodge outcast jail crew made the playoffs. They took Dallas to 7 games and almost beat them, and then would have had a chance to beat Sacramento because Webber was hurt in the next series and go to the conference finals. Those teams were annoying, but look at it this way: If that era didn’t happen, we wouldn’t have the future that we have now. That future will result in the best Blazer teams ever.
by PABroncofan on Sep 5, 2008 4:00 AM PDT 0 recs
Great teams
I would say my choice is first the 89-92 era due to the fact that I was to young to know what was going on in 77. Also that the 77 team was so short lived (I wonder if the Blazers would have been able to win more championships if they kept Moses Malone.)
The late 80’s Early 90’s team had time to gel and get to know each other. The main components -Clyde, Porter, Kersey and Duck had a few years together before Buck and Cliff came along. I felt that the Blazers never got the respect of the officials or the league. If so I wonder what might have happened.
The 99-00 Team was good but had too many distractions. I know that many people felt that the Blazers imploded down the stretch but IMO it was also the officiating that helped begin the l*kers 4th Quarter run. But even so I don’t know, even with all that talent, if this team would have not imploded at some point soon after.
This team we have today is the most talented team I think the Blazers have ever had. Will it be greater that any other? We have to wait and see.
- 1. 89-92
- 2. 76-77
- 3. 99-00
Soon to be # 1. 2008-2069
D Marty
by Dmartyparty on Sep 7, 2008 11:02 PM PDT 0 recs









