OT: Ex-Blazer Darrell Arthur busted for marijuana possession
by OdenRoyLMA on Sep 3, 2008 2:04 PM PDT
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March Madness heroes Mario Chalmers and Darrell Arthur were thrown out of the NBA's rookie transition program on Wednesday morning after being caught in their hotel room with marijuana and women, according to several sources.
What idiots. Glad we traded Arthur. Michael Beasley was also apparently in the room, but they let him walk for some unknown reason. Not surprised, the NBA is trying to cover up their stars nowadays.
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Where did you read the Beasley part?
Just curious.
Not the brightest kids in the room.
"Why would we lie to ourselves dude?"
"Be excellent to each other."
"All we are is dust in the wind, dude."
"Strange things are afoot at the Circle K."
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by GreatOden'sRaven on Sep 3, 2008 2:08 PM PDT reply actions
“A source said No. 2 overall pick Michael Beasley was also in the room. The NBA, however, said Beasley is not believed to have been involved.”
It has since been removed from ESPN’s article.
Cover up?
Oden+Roy+Aldridge+Rudy=Dynasty. Believe
................. just covering up their ass from a lawsuit, probably.
"TominHawaii's real name is Hubert and he's a rancher in Burns."
Well I understand why they got in trouble for having marijuana in the room...
but the article specifically says they were caught in the room with “marijuana and women.” Is it against league rules to have women in the room? They’re just tryin to get them some.
Word
"Jerryd is straight ahead at you. Rudy dips around. Jerryd is a rock. Rudy is the wind. Jerryd loves the ball in his hands. Rudy moves without it. Jerryd defends by getting up in your grill. Rudy plays the spaces in between. Jerryd has focused vision. Rudy sees all around him. Jerryd likes to score off of the dribble. Rudy can catch and shoot. Jerryd is aggressive. Rudy is sneaky. Jerryd will hit you hard. Rudy will annoy you until you hit him." -Dave
Word.
And since when is having marijuana a big deal?
Goodness sakes, doesn’t half the country smoke pot these days? Probably a lot more than half if you just count people under 60. Heck, JFK used to smoke pot in the White House.
The perfect is the enemy of the good.
The Irony
is that it was at the Rookie Orientation.
Rule #1 Don’t get caught with weed, blame your no-good, car borrowing, friend in your posse who takes the fall for you.
Woof
by Charles Barkley McLovin on Sep 3, 2008 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Rudy doesn't get caught cause he smokes spliffs and no one notices.
Word.
"Jerryd is straight ahead at you. Rudy dips around. Jerryd is a rock. Rudy is the wind. Jerryd loves the ball in his hands. Rudy moves without it. Jerryd defends by getting up in your grill. Rudy plays the spaces in between. Jerryd has focused vision. Rudy sees all around him. Jerryd likes to score off of the dribble. Rudy can catch and shoot. Jerryd is aggressive. Rudy is sneaky. Jerryd will hit you hard. Rudy will annoy you until you hit him." -Dave
Word.
true
"Rudy Fernández ha confirmado hoy que la próxima temporada jugará en el Portland Trail Blazers"
Maybe one of those contraband women in the hotel room could have stuffed the weed in her bra
Winning is everything.
Um... because it's illegal.
Debate the morality/sensibility of it all you want, it is still against the law in the US.
Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.
"I think it’s going to be very beautiful game next year."
-Nicolas Batum
by rockingharder on Sep 3, 2008 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Lots of things are against the law.
……………………………… Why does the league spend time on non-performance enhancing drugs?
"TominHawaii's real name is Hubert and he's a rancher in Burns."
100% agreed
Cut the roids, allow the weeed.
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by Y5k on Sep 4, 2008 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions
You know
they say phil jackson played an entire season while regularly taking LSD.
Also, Dock Ellis pitched a perfect game on acid.
Word.
"Jerryd is straight ahead at you. Rudy dips around. Jerryd is a rock. Rudy is the wind. Jerryd loves the ball in his hands. Rudy moves without it. Jerryd defends by getting up in your grill. Rudy plays the spaces in between. Jerryd has focused vision. Rudy sees all around him. Jerryd likes to score off of the dribble. Rudy can catch and shoot. Jerryd is aggressive. Rudy is sneaky. Jerryd will hit you hard. Rudy will annoy you until you hit him." -Dave
Word.
Weed is like the opposite of roids
It’s like a performance “dehancer,” because it makes you lazy, eat a lot of junk food, and messes up your respiratory system.
If people want to smoke weed and play worse basketball, that’s fine with me.
by ostateblazer on Sep 4, 2008 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions
When they outlaw free sheech you gong to comply?
Everyone on the planet knows, or should, that the reasons for it being illegal is because of Hearst’s logging interests. He purposely put constant negative stories about weed in all his newspapers to demonize it. Hemp was a threat to his profits. And that is pretty much where it stands now. Hemp can make most everything and much, much, much less expensively. Most of our crap laws have more to do with someone’s profit margin than working for we the people.
by Blazersaurus on Sep 4, 2008 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
ding ding ding
Thankfully someone bothers to look into history. I mean Alcohol was illegal in this country for quite awhile. All that happened was capone and his Gangsters made a fortune off boot legging and murder. Without prohibition alcohol would never have been associated with crime. Teens drank back then just like now and to get it they had to deal with criminals. It’s often easier for kids to get pot then alcohol due to unethical criminals controlling the supply. What’s worse is that sometimes those criminals have truly dangerous drugs like Meth and Heroin, drugs that kid may never have otherwise been around. he wanted to mess around with something that by comparison is one of the least dangerous substances. Certainly alcohol has a greater potential for danger let alone other illegal drugs. This has always been my issue it criminalizes something that is minor and exposes the populace to drug dealers and the criminal element for a largely harmless substance for adults.
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Too me it a bigs deal...
because they are a in training/certification course to learn import skills to help them succeed;
It would be one thing if they did this in their own home in the off-season.
Most people don't care... (yawn)
There’s a poll up next to the ESPN article. The poll asks whether you care if athletes smoke pot. There are three responses to choose from, which I will paraphrase as follows: 1) don’t care at all, 2) care a little bit; and 3) care a lot.
As of this comment choice # 1 is leading by a large margin, with 52% of the vote. In second place is choice # 2 with about 26%.
The perfect is the enemy of the good.
Personally
I and pretty much everyone I know could care less about some peoples smoking pot.
HOWEVER it was pretty dang dumb of these two guys to be smoking pot at the Rookie Transition thingy, which makes a big deal about not smoking nuthin’ and managing your money and generally being a responsible young adult after being given heaping tablespoons of pure NBA money.
How dumb it was to get caught there is the bigger deal, not the actual deed, I’d say.
As if no one could smell it in the hallway from a nice fancy hotel and no one would know huge tall NBA players are in there… it’s really dumb of them. ESPECIALLY if they did have people over and people were walking in and out of the room, the smell goes down the hallway, NBA officials are everywhere…
Man, so dumb.
Smoke pot, fine, just don’t be so STUPID and get caught in front of people who do not want you to smoke pot, boneheads.
That’s my take.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Sep 3, 2008 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yes but those uptight people should chill out
Why should David Stern or any other league official get all oppressive just because a couple of dudes burned a fatty in their hotel room?
The perfect is the enemy of the good.
David Stern's reply when someone told him
"Get me a scotch rocks, hold the rocks.
On second thought, just give me the bottle."
I shoot layups like they're jumpers.
If it was the first night
perhaps the NBA hadn’t yet covered pot and women in their seminar?
Just saying…..
Neither of these guys was a pot head in college and there may be more to the story to come. For instance: were the women carrying the pot? Was it being smoked? Were the women even invited or did they discover the NBA rooms? Not going to jump to conclusions.
Aldridge said. "We feel like we can beat any team. We feel like we can beat the Spurs, Suns, Lakers, Mavericks, whoever any night right now, and we'll still be here when those teams get old and their guys retire. We're going to be here for a long time."
Thank you
My thoughts exactly…….except, you say it a little mo’betta.
Really? Like really, really? At the NBA Initiation? Are they being mentored by Damon? That’s almost as dumb as the Tinfoil Incident.
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well a couple questions can be raised
1. What proof is there that the weed is belonging to either athlete, as the story indicates there were other people (women) in the room?
2. Is it against league rules to have women in your hotel room?
I think this kind of reporting is absurd. Untill there is actual proof that DArth was involved in illegal activity (again no proof) it should not be a story.
"Thank God those nightmarish booty-less days are behind us. I blame cocaine."-Mortimer
I detest that man who hides one thing in the depths of his heart, and speaks for another. - Homer
That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
1881
The wild hawk stood with the down on his beak And stared with his foot on the prey. - Lord Alfred Tennyson
Absurd reporting?
It’s necessary reporting — can you imagine the conspiracy theories, etc if they were sent home and the NBA DIDN’T say why? Or even if the NBA just said that the guys broke the rules and didn’t give any further explanation? And apparently, one of the program rules is “no visitors” — male or female.
If it becomes a huge story, then I’ll agree with you that it’s absurd.
thats why im asking the questions...
I think they should wait to report untill all investigations and allegations have been sorted out. The media has reversed the "judicial"system in this instance-instead of innocent untill proven guilty it’s guilty untill proven innocent…and that is why it’s absurd.
Sophia
"Thank God those nightmarish booty-less days are behind us. I blame cocaine."-Mortimer
I detest that man who hides one thing in the depths of his heart, and speaks for another. - Homer
That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
1881
The wild hawk stood with the down on his beak And stared with his foot on the prey. - Lord Alfred Tennyson
The media isn't out to prove anything here
They are reporting what happened as told to them by the most credible sources they could find and leaving it up to you to make your own decisions on the story.
The “investigations and allegations” could take months to sort out depending on how lawyers and law enforcement choose to deal with it. People need to know what happened now, and if they’re interested the can follow the case and find out the final verdict of what happened later.
Also, to be charged with possession of a controlled substance all you need to do is be aware that it is somewhere you have access to. Whether you know it’s in your house, you’re hotel room, the trunk of your car, in a groupie’s purser, it doesn’t matter. Beasley might have gotten off because he claimed to not know they had it and everyone else backed him up.
I don’t get the bashing of the media for reporting what happened. These guys were found with weed and punishments are beeing handed down as such. We the people have a right to know that.
don't matter
You can’t just toss the weed on the ground and say “not mine.”
If you are in the room or car or where ever with is, it might as well be in your hand.
That’s the way johnnyLaw used to treat me and my buddies.
It’s dumb, but true (like so many other things in the legal realm).
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by Y5k on Sep 4, 2008 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions
"dumb but true" exactly how our country and laws are...
i emphatically concur.
"Thank God those nightmarish booty-less days are behind us. I blame cocaine."-Mortimer
I detest that man who hides one thing in the depths of his heart, and speaks for another. - Homer
That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
1881
The wild hawk stood with the down on his beak And stared with his foot on the prey. - Lord Alfred Tennyson
Is there even a photo with Darrell Arthur wearing a Blazers cap?
Probably there is, still this doesn’t reflect negatively on the Blazers at all.
Odenied: Asked whether he noticed Oden favoring his right knee, Frye dismissed it entirely. "He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors."
Arthur
was never meant to be on the team.
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by CaptainSexyJacob on Sep 3, 2008 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions
When Pat Riley got informed that one of his draft picks was caught with marijuana in NYC his first thought was:
A) Beasley?
OR
B) Chalmers?
You probably could have made a lot more money in Vegas with a bet on Chalmers.
Odenied: Asked whether he noticed Oden favoring his right knee, Frye dismissed it entirely. "He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors."
Dang
They finally caught my caught my favorite hook
"It's how you play the Ga-ame..." - Greg Oden with Justin Timeberlake at the Espy's
by BlazermaniacAndy on Sep 3, 2008 4:23 PM PDT reply actions
I like
the story in your profile about meeting KP.
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by CaptainSexyJacob on Sep 3, 2008 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions
caught my caught my?
wow, get this kid some sober pills
"It's how you play the Ga-ame..." - Greg Oden with Justin Timeberlake at the Espy's
by BlazermaniacAndy on Sep 3, 2008 4:24 PM PDT reply actions
ummmm hi stranger!!!!
:)
"Thank God those nightmarish booty-less days are behind us. I blame cocaine."-Mortimer
I detest that man who hides one thing in the depths of his heart, and speaks for another. - Homer
That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
1881
The wild hawk stood with the down on his beak And stared with his foot on the prey. - Lord Alfred Tennyson
ummm hi stranger?
you weren’t calling me that last night ;)
You called me Sire
"It's how you play the Ga-ame..." - Greg Oden with Justin Timeberlake at the Espy's
by BlazermaniacAndy on Sep 4, 2008 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
So why did they get thrown out?
Isn’t this supposed to be adjusting to the NBA? Now they’ve been thrown out and can claim innocence if they screw up on stuff covered after they left.
Seems to me that if the NBA thinks this is a serious offense then those kids should be put in remedial pot smoking instead of tossed out on the street. Tutor them, do whatever, but don’t just say “go home”. It will be interesting to see how the teams react.
Remedial pot smoking?
Is that like pot smoking 101? i think they would test out.
"Jerryd is straight ahead at you. Rudy dips around. Jerryd is a rock. Rudy is the wind. Jerryd loves the ball in his hands. Rudy moves without it. Jerryd defends by getting up in your grill. Rudy plays the spaces in between. Jerryd has focused vision. Rudy sees all around him. Jerryd likes to score off of the dribble. Rudy can catch and shoot. Jerryd is aggressive. Rudy is sneaky. Jerryd will hit you hard. Rudy will annoy you until you hit him." -Dave
Word.
Yeah
When I wrote that I thought that someone would take it as a “how to” class, but decided that I’d leave it as a “how to intelligently” option. Abstention is best, but …
The NBA and the Grizzlies already said the will have to repeat the seminar next season
And they will probably get suspended without pay for a few games.
Odenied: Asked whether he noticed Oden favoring his right knee, Frye dismissed it entirely. "He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors."
test the players
this is another example of aother quick coverup. i get tired of writers not covering the truth or giving in to pressure from teams to cover up their players messes so they can continue to get the stories, or for fear of getting blacklisted themselves. they swept the betting scandle under the rug. i would bet that steriods is more rampant in the nba that most other sports, where else does your top players get drafted then everyone says he too small and needs to put on some weight before theyll be effective (and they do). it happens all the time. the pot thing beyond just being stupid and getting caught, these are role models for our kids. why arent these guys piss tested! i cant smoke pot and many other jobs dont allow it. its illegial. if i get caught with any in my system i am fired once for 30 days, if it happens a 2nd time permanently. there is no reason it shouldnt be the same with nba players. even in the nfl there are some consequences.
WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PISS TESTING IS WRONG! UNLESS YOU’RE A BUS DRIVER OR HAVE DONE SOMETHING TO SHOW YOU HAVE CAUSED PROBLEMS IN THE PAST WITH DRUG USE THAT HAS IN SOMEWAY EFFECTED THE QUALITY OF YOUR WORK. ALL OTHER DRUG TESTING IS USED TO CONTROL PEOPLE.
And another thing Riccc_l. You choose to work in a place that degrades you into pissing into a cup. No one made you take that job. I would piss in a cup if I absolutly had to, no other choice to feed loved ones, but even in the times when nary a drug past through my body, (which is most of the time) I would not ever take such a test. It would go against everything I believe.
These are just my personal opinions, they just happen to be right.
by Blazersaurus on Sep 4, 2008 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
take it down a notch..
Im with you for the most part there, if my boss asked me for a urine test I would be pretty taken back. But, these guys are athletes, their performance is directly related to athletic ability and therefor they have incentive to use performance enhancing drugs, drug screening in this sense doesnt seem unreasonable to me. Maybe ballers dont have the same track record as cyclists and baseball players, but it doesnt mean the league should lie down on the issue.
Whatever
Jesus piss tested the Disciples. I think it is somewhere in John 1.
Did I ever tell you you're my hero?
That should be "AFFECTED THE QUALITY OF YOUR WORK."
“Effect” is the noun form, while “affect” is the verb.
Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.
"I think it’s going to be very beautiful game next year."
-Nicolas Batum
by rockingharder on Sep 4, 2008 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Beasley coverup?
I don’t think the NBA would cover up something like that……hold on..my bong needs a refill! I think Beasley did not inhale! :) or have sexual relations with that woman! :)
Go Blazers!
The downside of weed
Everyone seems to be agreed that the players’ alleged actions (getting caught smoking weed at the rookie orientation) were dumb. But aside from the comments of a few moralists (it’s illegal!), the consensus here seems to be that the actual smoking of weed is harmless—like drinking a beer or two. Lots of players do it, right?
But I disagree. I compare the impact of habitual pot smoking on ANY career to trying to fill up a bucket that has a hole in the bottom. Weed just sucks the drive & ambition right out of you.
So sure, lots of NBA players smoke weed, and there are no obvious ill effects. But, if there were any way to prove it, I think you’d find that championship teams don’t have a lot of pot smoke wafting out of their locker rooms.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
“Weed just sucks the drive & ambition right out of” many people. but the thing is, weed stays in the body a long time after any psychological effects have passed. Is it fair to punish someone for having a puff two weeks ago up at the lake with his/her buddy?
I don’t like to think of my NBA players as stoners. I like to picture them working everyday to be in perfect condition. but reality is, humans crave intoxicants from cradle to grave. Them’s the breaks.
Love and kisses,
-Mat
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by Y5k on Sep 4, 2008 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Whatever
“Weed just sucks the drive & ambition right out of you.”
To generalize it like that, is wrong. Weed affects different people in totally different ways. Some people handle it well, some don’t. Those who don’t, I’ve found, don’t generally handle life well, even without the pot. Just saying, lot’s of successful, motivated people smoke. I know many……
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See my other reply
I’m talking about habitual pot smoking. And to that extent, I stand by my generalization. I’m 55 years old and am from San Francisco. I’ve been around the stuff since I was 15, and consumed my share back in the day. You get the picture: I’m not just making stuff up.
There’s an exception to every rule, but I’ve yet to see a HABITUAL pot smoker who is ambitious and successful—even in the arts. I’d venture to say that, to the extent that they ARE successful, they’d be more so if they moderated their smoking—or gave it up entirely.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
I can roll with that
But I do know quite a few habitual exceptions to your rule as well.
Oh, and I never thought you were just making stuff up. You just have a different view, that’s all. No biggie……
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I can offer one possible, documented exception:
Robert Parish. The Chief was a well-known practitioner of the Peace Pipe, and he won championships with the Celtics. Having said that, I suspect Parish could have been a better player had he moderated his pot consumption. There’s no way of proving that, of course.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
No, no...
“It’s illegal” isn’t a good example of being a moralist. Legality and morality are separate issues.
Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.
"I think it’s going to be very beautiful game next year."
-Nicolas Batum
by rockingharder on Sep 4, 2008 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't some folks consider breaking the law to be intrinsically immoral?
In any case, this is a side issue. My point was that no one was addressing the guestion of habitual pot smoking’s impact on PERFORMANCE. As a fan, that’s what I’m primarily concerned with.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
Yes very good point.
People are making a HUGE logical error. They think if something is bad it should be illegal and therefore illegal things are bad NO NO NO A THOUSAND TIMES NO!!! For godsake NOTHING Hitler did was illegal according to German Law. Even Martin Luther King Jr. remarked on this during the civil rights movement. If we all believed that laws are inherently moral then we’d still have slavery among other ghastly things that WERE legal but were eventually overturned when their unjust nature was exposed. In fact since the majority of prisoners in the country are in prison due to drugs and the VAST majority of those are due to Marijuana AND the vast majority of them are ethnic minorities you start to see that the underpinnings of how the law is executed is totally unjust. If you are in the NBA it’s a personal matter with some small slap on the wrist the same 20 year old pot black pot smoker in Houston could go to prison. Now is that justice?
He's Coming! Oden Slayer of Giants
LMAO you mean like the 1977 championship team?
Yeah Bill Walton never…um…EXHALED. Yep he just kept that first toke from 1972 in his lungs for the rest of his career. Come on man there have been PLENTY of championships won by guys on all manner of drugs. Not saying it helps or that it doesn’t hurt but it’s naive to think that these multi-million dollar athletes don’t use intoxicants. I suppose the Beatles were just High on life too. LOL
He's Coming! Oden Slayer of Giants
I referred to "the impact of habitual pot smoking"
Not to having a puff every once in a while on holiday.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
The nation seems a little divided over this issue (ESPN SportsNation poll from today)
Odenied: Asked whether he noticed Oden favoring his right knee, Frye dismissed it entirely. "He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors."
Cool post
I’d actually vote “not at all.” I could care less if athletes smoke weed. I just don’t want OUR athletes smoking—at least on a regular basis, and particularly during the season. I’ve already heard rumors that one of the Blazers does smoke, and to excess. (I won’t perpetuate the rumor by naming names.) This concerns me. I think you only win championships if you’re hitting on all cylinders. It’s hard enough to pull off even then.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
I think I could guess who
And it’s one of the least likely Blazers.
Witty Unpredictable Talent and Natural Game
Probably a homie.
"Jerryd is straight ahead at you. Rudy dips around. Jerryd is a rock. Rudy is the wind. Jerryd loves the ball in his hands. Rudy moves without it. Jerryd defends by getting up in your grill. Rudy plays the spaces in between. Jerryd has focused vision. Rudy sees all around him. Jerryd likes to score off of the dribble. Rudy can catch and shoot. Jerryd is aggressive. Rudy is sneaky. Jerryd will hit you hard. Rudy will annoy you until you hit him." -Dave
Word.
Hurryup
I actually agree with this but this should be a matter of Adult (18+) choice and a professional choice. I also wouldn’t want any of our players drinking a 5th of Jim Beam every night. It’s a matter of professionalism and SHOULD NOT be a legal matter for a consenting adult.
He's Coming! Oden Slayer of Giants
Man that looks like the prospective
electoral results this November. The same states that voted for Bush overwhelmingly dislike pot how interesting. With the exception of Texas a couple of southern and midwest states that looks like a Red State Blue State map. How interesting.
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