Put some junk in that trunk - Monday Sept 29
by Devyn on Sep 29, 2008 2:34 AM PDT
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Baseball season ended last season, with the beloved Mariners finishing with the second worst record in the league, to the Washington Nationals. The two teams fought hard for this achievment but the Mariners just seemed to not have what it takes to be on
And how many of you watched the season premier of The Unit on CBS last night? I think after having it on the bubble for this upcoming season they did quite well in capturing the attention of a lot of viewers with a short attention span, but at the same time pissed off some older viewers such as myself that wanted them to pick off where they left off last season instead of starting something new.
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I hate the Cubs
I hope they lose. I think I want the Brewers against the Rays.
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by tominhawaii on Sep 29, 2008 3:31 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The Cubs will definitely lose
They have that goat curse.
by the vegetarian on Sep 29, 2008 4:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Until they forgive Steve Bartman
I hope they never win.
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by tominhawaii on Sep 29, 2008 5:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Going off topic. I feel myself Tominhawaiiesque with three recommended fanposts ;-)
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by amlmart1 on Sep 29, 2008 5:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dang
You’re the man. You should take a screen shot of it.
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by tominhawaii on Sep 29, 2008 5:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I think it´s not actually a fair comparison.
You reached that goal in the hard old times, when there were about 20 fanposts per day.
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by amlmart1 on Sep 29, 2008 5:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Watched the Mets fall apart from my Brooklyn apt.
They just can’t hold it together. Their like an abusive relationship with their fans: Just when you forgive them, they slap you again.
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by Y5k on Sep 29, 2008 6:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Get ready Amlmart
I’m going to get four beautiful works of art ready, post them, and then do a junk drawer to ensure complete domination of the top five slots….muahahhahaahaha!!!
So what should my four topics be? I was thinking something about the most lovable Laker, a few trade scenarios, and why the Blazers are too inexperienced to make the playoffs. Oh, and one on why Rip City isn’t back yet.
He who laughs last thinks slowest.
by prezofdeath on Sep 29, 2008 6:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I got one
I just wrote this. So that is where I’m coming from.
Which is the most potent combination Bayless/Roy, Fernandez/Roy, or Bayless/Fernandez?
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by tominhawaii on Sep 29, 2008 7:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
But I sold out for my third post by asking Dave and Ben questions. You’re were all legit diaries.
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by tominhawaii on Sep 29, 2008 7:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't like you either
"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ." -Gandhi
"Throw Thag, throw. Throw throw throw throw throw throw"- Far Side
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Sep 29, 2008 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't like you
"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ." -Gandhi
"Throw Thag, throw. Throw throw throw throw throw throw"- Far Side
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Sep 29, 2008 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Until you can learn to forgive, you will never learn to love.
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by tominhawaii on Sep 30, 2008 2:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We Cubs fans aren't big on "forgive"
And I love pizza, does that count?
"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ." -Gandhi
"Throw Thag, throw. Throw throw throw throw throw throw"- Far Side
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Sep 30, 2008 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're Buckner isn't even a player
And it was the 8th inning, just a foul ball, the Cubs had a 3 run lead, and it was only game 6. I say screw the Cubs ’till they take ownership of their own faults. I pray to the all mighty Blazers Edge that bachi keeps the Cubs from winning a World Series until the Cubs and their fans accept responsibility for their actions.
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by tominhawaii on Sep 30, 2008 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah, I've got nothing against Bartman
He committed a big-time no-no (and at Wrigley, you’re expected to know the rules), he was sorry, he felt terrible, end of story. The Cubs choked, not for the first or last time. Nobody deserves even a portion of the hatred and vitriol the poor guy endured. Except Yankee fans, but I’m going to assume that’s a given.
I was actually responding to your post where you gave no reason, just broke my heart with your anti-Cubbie rhetoric.
What happened to you, man? You used to be beautiful!
And as for Buckner, he was a favorite Cubbie of mine, and I’m a BSox fan as well, but the cows were already out of the barn when he made that error. It just hastened the collapse. I NEVER hold things like that (Uncle Cliffy’s ham-handed turnover in the WCFs comes to mind as well) against a player.
"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ." -Gandhi
"Throw Thag, throw. Throw throw throw throw throw throw"- Far Side
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Sep 30, 2008 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My best man is a Cubs fan and a Beavers fan
He has cooties.
Normally, I would root for his teams because he’s my pal. Have you ever watched PTI and seen how Michael Wilbon reacts to Bartman?
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by tominhawaii on Sep 30, 2008 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No I haven't
But knowing the ‘Bong, it can’t be good.
And I totally disavow any connection with a guy who likes the Cubbies AND OSU. That shouldn’t be possible.
Is this guy in Hawaii as well, because I can’t imagine he’s very popular there after the whoopin’ the Beavs put on the Rainbows of Gladditude or whatever they’re called.
"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ." -Gandhi
"Throw Thag, throw. Throw throw throw throw throw throw"- Far Side
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Sep 30, 2008 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He lives in Eugene
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by tominhawaii on Sep 30, 2008 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eeeeek!
Better than a Duck fan living in Corvallis, but still.
Brave (or dumb) guy you got there.
"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ." -Gandhi
"Throw Thag, throw. Throw throw throw throw throw throw"- Far Side
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Sep 30, 2008 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My wife likes the Unit
But I can’t stand it.
I watched one episode with her … where an army guy (the hero?) intimidates and threatens to beat up/send to Guantanamo or other nasty place a journalist because he is going to expose an unauthorized military action in Pakistan that had been officially denied.
As a journalist, it made me sick to think that people at home were rooting for the keepers of secrets and not their own right to know (even if it is in a fictional setting).
that was the last I ever watched of the Unit, or really any other such shoot-em-up, blood-soaked garbage dramas (sorry, my opinion, not my wife’s or many other people’s): Prison Break, CSI, um … whatever else she watches. I go in the other room and do web searches for Blazers-related news.
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by Y5k on Sep 29, 2008 6:11 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Your reaction sounds perfectly normal to me
"You're really making me feel good about myself, little man," says Oden as he starts dancing after scoring a goal. "You better come harder than that."
by BlueBooYay on Sep 29, 2008 6:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1 for you
Those CBS dramas are just…arrrg I would use some nasty words to describe them but I’d get hate mail.
He who laughs last thinks slowest.
by prezofdeath on Sep 29, 2008 7:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess it’s no worse than Three’s Company or Dynasty or any of the other mindless crap TV-land spits out. But the gore factor seems to keep rising and the excuses for it get less and less plausible.
How many shows on serial killers can we have?
I used to watch a lot of … what’s it called … Law and Order. That’s it. It used to feel a little like when I covered court cases, seeing the way lawyers and cops worked. But then it kinda went off the deep end with a lot of psycho-drama and crazy plot twists that hinged on the characters’ foibles, not the legal issues they were facing.
Oh well.
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by Y5k on Sep 29, 2008 7:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Law and Order SVU and Dexter
Are the only 2 dramas I can handle…by the way if someone saw Dexter’s premier don’t talk about it, I have it DVR’d.
When asked about his thoughts during the Olympic games about playing against Kobe Bryant and Dwight Howard, Rudy responded "My first thought was respect. My second thought was to kick their ass".
Man I love him.
by twiggs on Sep 29, 2008 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yehh...I'll stick with Bedgin' over mindless violence/crazy maniacs.
The occasional movie with a well-thought out plot that includes some violence is ok (I guess), but to see bloody shows four times a week (or however often it’s on) is just mind numbingly gross.
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by prezofdeath on Sep 29, 2008 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My wife likes the unit
But we don’t call it that, and I don’t understand what your man member has to do with Guantanamo.
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by tominhawaii on Sep 29, 2008 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’ve obviously never been to Gitmo.
(wink)
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by Y5k on Sep 29, 2008 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you saying she likes your unit or units in general?
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by timg56 on Sep 29, 2008 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Since mine is the best, it is THE UNIT!
Ha, I love dirty jokes.
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by tominhawaii on Sep 29, 2008 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm guessing the latter.
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by Y5k on Sep 29, 2008 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess it comes as no surprise
That I love The Unit and disagree with your opinion.
I’m trying to remember the episode, but I seem to recall that the journalist wanted to publish information that would have resulted in people getting killed. While I personally believe that too much is made of keeping stuff secret, there are justifiable reasons for doing so. One involves keeping US servicemen and foreign operatives working on our behalf safe.
Ask yourself this question, whose side would you rather associate with – the one who fields guys like The Unit or the one that kidnaps journalists like Daniel Perl and executes them?
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Sep 29, 2008 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess the point for me is, who do you demonize
Is the journalist bad for wanting to inform citizens of how their government is spending citizen’s money?
Is the the government justified in torturing (falsely accusing/imprisoning) someone for telling the truth?
I see it less as “either you are with us or you are with the terrorists” and more as “I’m a person, your a person, what’s the right thing to do in each situation?”
A lot of times Life is said to be a statement.
Maybe it should be more of a question.
Maybe I’m wrong about this show if it is raising these sorts of questions. Maybe it is a positive force.
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by Y5k on Sep 29, 2008 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is the the government justified in torturing (falsely accusing/imprisoning) someone
for telling the truth?
In a word – no.
Here is a question back – Has the government tortured anyone for telling a truth they didn’t want us to hear?
There have been examples (at least one anyway) of the government falsely accusing people or making inflated accusations. But here is a news flash – it happens. Not just in “national security” cases, but in everyday criminal proceedings. Government and the legal system are not perfect or 100% error free. Mistakes happen. When they do, you correct them and try not to make the same one again.
I’m reminded of people with those “coexist” bumper stickers on their vehicle. It’s a great idea. One I believe in. However it is an idea that coexisits in a world full of mean, nasty and yes, even evil people who couldn’t care less about co-existing, unless it involves the sort of coexistence that has them on top. Because we live in such a world, I’m thankful that we have men and women willing to walk among the evil and and the nasty to ensure they don’t threaten our way of life.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Sep 29, 2008 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is no such thing as perfection
thus, everything is perfect.
“Nothing is sacred, all is permissible.”
That’s a quote (perhaps falsely) attributed to an early outlaw Islamic rebel.
Not sure I really get your meaning, timg56. I’ll try to say it back and you tell me if I’m right:
Bad things happen, but good people try to learn from them and not repeat them. (Break a few eggs to make an omelet; break a few innocents to get the guilty.)
Good people try to get bad people to think like good people, but these good people are wasting their time (and a lot of plastic bumper stickers that will never biodegrade) because many bad people only want to think like bad people only.
Bad people do bad things, but some people try to stop them (AKA, get them to think like they do, or lock ’em up/kill ’em).
The ultimate good is “our way of life” and people who think differently are bad.
—-
I stopped being an overt idealist after Clinton lied to Congress. It really pissed me off (as petty as the whole affair was), and I decided to give up on politics and holding people to a higher-moral/ethical standard. It hasn’t worked out so well.
What disturbs me today, is how questions have become unAmerican; how civil liberty has become back-burner; and how seeing other points of view or accepting other systems are somehow now signs of capitulation. It’s a big troubled world out there. Glad it’s not me fighting for or against it. I’d like to buy the world a coke, and live in harmony. But it probably won’t happen anytime soon. I’d probably hate it if it did.
“Nothing is sacred, all is permissible.”
Peace and cheese,
-Mat
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by Y5k on Sep 29, 2008 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"All is permissible"
sounds like something Ivan Karamazov or Smerdyakov would say.
by tingeyga on Sep 29, 2008 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are sort of in the ball park.
Break a few eggs to make an omelet; break a few innocents to get the guilty. – well as it applies to eating breakfast, yes. As it applies to enforcing laws, probably not. I may not go so far as to say better a hundred guilty men go free, than one innocent man be falsely imprisoned, but I don’t stray too far afield from that sentiment.
good people are wasting their time – pretty much right on the money.
Bad people do bad things, but some people try to stop them – some people just plain need killing.
The ultimate good is "our way of life" and people who think differently are bad – completely off the mark. I don’t care what way of life a person wants to choose. What I do care about is when they decide I have to live that way of life as well. I do believe there is more ways to think than just the way I do and that some may be better. I also think the world is full of a lot of idiots. I particularly don’t like the idiots who think they know better than I do how I should live my life.
I believe there are things that are sacred. It is up to each of us to decide exactly what those things are and stand by them.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Sep 29, 2008 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rock on.
To each their own.
All is permissible, to some degree.
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by Y5k on Sep 29, 2008 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting
I believe there are things that are sacred. It is up to each of us to decide exactly what those things are and stand by them.
The essence of this statement is that each of us is our own god, able to decide what is sacred. “I am the god, the one who determines what is sacred.”
A lot of people believe that, but few express it so clearly.
The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.
by jscot on Sep 29, 2008 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who is the master that makes the grass green?
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by Y5k on Sep 30, 2008 5:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Sho'nuff!"
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by tominhawaii on Sep 30, 2008 5:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think of myself as my own god.
But he did make all of us in his own image, which, in my opinion, includes free will. It is what we do with that gift that counts.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Sep 30, 2008 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm
I misunderstood.
Maybe, then, to refine your statement from this:
I believe there are things that are sacred. It is up to each of us to decide exactly what those things are and stand by them.
to something like this?
I believe there are things that are sacred. It is up to each of us to discover exactly what those things are and stand by them.
The first seems to have the implication that it is our decision that defines what is sacred. The second implies that those sacred things are sacred however we respond, but that the burden is on us to determine our response.
Would that fairly represent what you are saying?
The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.
by jscot on Oct 1, 2008 4:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your rendition is better put than what I wrote.
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by timg56 on Oct 1, 2008 6:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
I was just interested, I always like trying to know where people are coming from.
The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.
by jscot on Oct 1, 2008 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Prison Break
It doesn’t try to be more than it is and it’s good for an actioner. Not bloated and full of itself like Heroes.
The only other shows I watch are Mad Men, Survivor, Amazing Race, and Fringe.
by DrivetheLane on Sep 29, 2008 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love the first two seasons of Prison Break
The first one is amazing, and both have more turns than a corkscrew. I have them on DVD, but didn’t start the third season yet.
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by Norsktroll on Sep 29, 2008 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the 3rd season is pretty good
a little slow at first, but really picks up steam. Of course, that is one show that seems better when watching them all in a row rather than waiting week by week. But the 4th season has started out really well.
by DrivetheLane on Sep 29, 2008 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gallinari could go D-league?
Fox Sports says he’ll miss preseason with back pain. Also, it has been assumed that the Knicks will be running D’Antoni style, but he seems to confirm that here too. I guess I was thinking there might be a different coaching style up his sleeve .
superfluous
by lukeyhere on Sep 29, 2008 7:34 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess Martell
can share the distinction of being the highest pick sent to the d league
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
by jonestr on Sep 29, 2008 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Congratulations to the both of them on their achievement!
He who laughs last thinks slowest.
by prezofdeath on Sep 29, 2008 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The show I want to know about is Mad Men...
……………………… Very positive review of the AMC show in the Oregonian today, the teasers look provocative.
Hyper-sexism as closet feminism?
"It's not a joke -- it's not a game." — B-Rex
by timbo on Sep 29, 2008 8:29 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
great show
don draeper ftw
BRANDON ROY GET WELL SOON
by Ben. on Sep 29, 2008 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bill Simmons loves that show
I never heard of it until about a week or two ago.
I only watch sports, Fox cartoons, Comedy Central, and Wipeout.
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by tominhawaii on Sep 29, 2008 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I watched the first season and part of this season: Very good.
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by Y5k on Sep 29, 2008 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last night I watched 30 Rock for the first time at www.hulu.com
It’s a really funny show. I wish I would have learned about it sooner.
How can you not find this funny?
I like My Name is Earl and The Office but miss it all the time because my wife watches CSI.
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by tominhawaii on Sep 29, 2008 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's teh funniest episode ever.
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by Y5k on Sep 29, 2008 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just about peed myself
That’s some funny-a$$ writing!
by DonkeyShins on Sep 29, 2008 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a good show
Started off sorta dissapointing to me, since I like Tina Fey, but it gathered itself and growned all up stronglike.
It’s a funny show that enjoys being silly.
I never got into Earl (didn’t really try though, so I dunno if I like it), and I enjoy the Office, though post-strike it has seemed different… I’m not sure if it has a different showrunner or main writers now or what, but the ‘voice’ seemed different-esque.
I feel bad for Rachel Dratch, who was supposed to play the actress character that Jane Krakowski (the blonde lady who is Tina Fey’s friend on the show), but they changed the casting after the pilot. Rachel Dratch is a good comedic actress.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Sep 29, 2008 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't watch The Office because
the British one is so much better it makes the American version look stupid. At least to me.
by DrivetheLane on Sep 29, 2008 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
British humor is always funnier to me too
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by twiggs on Sep 29, 2008 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
but you know something...
I lived in England for about 8 months and I didn’t meet any especially funny people. I think the comedians suck up whatever humor exists in that country and the general populace is just boring.
by DrivetheLane on Sep 29, 2008 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Try Scotland
Everything bad in Britain resides in England.
Well, not quite. Some of it is in Northern Ireland as well.
The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.
by jscot on Sep 29, 2008 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The British version
Is one of the best THINGS, ever. Not just best TV show, best British comedy, or whatever— one of the bestest things that has ever existed.
I had very, very low hopes for the American version and I hated hated the first few episodes… many of them, especially the very first, were just rip offs of the British version, but done much worse.
The 2nd season, the American version found its voice and became its own show, and since then I’ve liked it.
Not nearly as good as the original version, but still a good show in a sea of bad sitcoms.
One thing that is very remarkable to me about the British version, is how fully realized it is right out of the gate. The characters are fully fleshed out and consistent with themselves right from the first episode, unlike how most TV shows take a season to REALLY figure out how their characters act and what they are like. Most of the peripheral characters in the American version of the Office didn’t take form until the 2nd season, and most TV shows are unrecognizeable when you see the first few episodes versus the episodes in their prime.
The original Office starts off great, everyone is who they are supposed to be, and it remains great throughout.
What other TV show, even CLASSIC TV shows, starts that way? EVERY show seems wierd when you watch the first episode after a few years.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Sep 29, 2008 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mad Men is currently the best show on television
Lost is the only other show currently running that I think is as good.
by DrivetheLane on Sep 29, 2008 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Linehan got canned
I think everyone saw this coming. Who’s next?
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by tominhawaii on Sep 29, 2008 9:10 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Without Using Google
Can anyone tell me off the top of their head where the Kermadec Island are?
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by tominhawaii on Sep 29, 2008 9:34 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
nope
and I’m pretty good w/ geography
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by Y5k on Sep 29, 2008 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same here
Two years ago I had every country (per the U.N. official roster) memorized and could fill in a blank map of the world. Now I have a hard time finding…uhh…….that one country…..Texaco? Umm….well you know what I mean. The one with the burritoes.
Anyway, Kermadec Island doesn’t sound like a country to me. I’m guessing it’s one of America’s small islands in the Pacific?
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by prezofdeath on Sep 29, 2008 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are five U.S. territory’s … and this ain’t one.
Northern Mariana Islands
American Samoa
Guam
Puerto Rico
U.S. Virgin Islands
plus Texaco.
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by Y5k on Sep 29, 2008 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeh but we have a heckuva lot of islands
and I even have a link
At any rate, even before I posted that I cheated and looked up where it really was…got too curious :-) But I was honest and posted what my first guess was, which I freely admit, was wrong.
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by prezofdeath on Sep 29, 2008 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I looked too, after the fact.
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by Y5k on Sep 29, 2008 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by prezofdeath on Sep 29, 2008 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds French
Somewhere in Polynesia, Pacific Ocean?
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by Norsktroll on Sep 29, 2008 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is that where they just had a big earthquake
sorta near New Zealand? I read the story a little bit ago but have already forgotten the name of the island group, but this sounded familiar. I checked for a tsunami, but none headed your way.
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by jorga on Sep 29, 2008 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup
We got a tsunami warning and I had to look it up.
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by tominhawaii on Sep 29, 2008 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's interesting
because as soon as I saw the big eq on the map I looked at the tsunami info and it said “there is no tsunami threat to Hawaii.” Who issued the warning that you heard? (The one I linked to was the NOAA Pacific Tsunami Warning Center.
""I am tired after all the travel, but after seeing the fans I just felt like heading straight to the gym to begin practicing." - Rudy 9.22.08
by jorga on Sep 29, 2008 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tom would like to reply
but he’s a little busy right now bailing water out of his living room.
"Personally, I'd rather give an elephant a prostate exam on Chili Day." --Dave on rooting for the Lakers or Celtics
by MiledAnimal on Sep 29, 2008 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
TIH stepped behind the camera long enough to snap a pic of his wifey doing the dishes. After all, what else is she supposed to do during a storm?
He who laughs last thinks slowest.
by prezofdeath on Sep 29, 2008 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
At first I thought those were the man-boobs tom’s always yacking about.
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by Y5k on Sep 29, 2008 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just so I'm clear here
Sacrilegious = Bad
Sexist = All in good fun
"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ." -Gandhi
"Throw Thag, throw. Throw throw throw throw throw throw"- Far Side
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Sep 30, 2008 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1
Can’t help myself from laughing. For a variety of reasons.
He who laughs last thinks slowest.
by prezofdeath on Oct 1, 2008 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We got the email from NOAA
The message we got listed the west coast and “anything in the Pacific Ocean.” I’m sure it was just an automatic email for some list we are signed up for. We didn’t do anything beside Google “Kermadec Island.”
Blazers Edge has an alarmist vision
by tominhawaii on Sep 29, 2008 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are Miles chances to make the Celtics roster rising?
Sam Cassell and newcomer Darius Miles do not have guaranteed contracts. Even so, the Celtics might waive another player with a low contract or make a trade to accommodate both Cassell and Miles (the roster limit is 15). “We’ve got a month to find out,” Ainge said. – The Boston Globe
St. Bayno's 120 Haiku Prospects: Nicolas Batum in the paint—prairie grass, blown by wind. Jerryd Bayless—leaps over a kite string, and keeps going.
by Norsktroll on Sep 29, 2008 9:59 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i've got a line out to dell'apa at the globe
he will hook us up as soon as camp is underway
BRANDON ROY GET WELL SOON
by Ben. on Sep 29, 2008 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
rock'n nice work
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by Y5k on Sep 29, 2008 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ben with the connections
What a man
He who laughs last thinks slowest.
by prezofdeath on Sep 29, 2008 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I updated my media day links collection, according to Doc Rivers he is working out with the team every day and looks fine
We're young in age, but deep in experience - Brandon Roy.
by Norsktroll on Sep 30, 2008 4:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
uh oh spaghetio
let’s face it folks. maybe it’s bound to happen. maybe some of our hoped-for cap space is bound to evaporate. ideal scenario for the Blazers is Miles doesn’t make the cut.
But ideal scenario for Miles is that he makes the team and achieves something like a “comeback.” Even folks who don’t like Miles gotta admit (mostly) that it would be a personal triumph — and something laudable from a human interest standpoint — for Miles to make it all the way back and play significant minutes in significant games.
so we have a values conflict between what is good for the Blazers and what is good for Miles. what is best for the one is worst for the other. no room for a win-win situation. one of these parties will lose.
We cannot put up with this flagrant lack of accountability anymore.
by MT Suit on Sep 29, 2008 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Honestly,
If he makes the team, it doesn’t bother me that much. I would, however, like to see him drag the Celtics down in their rush to have him, making our schedule all that much better. If Miles performs as sorta-lazy as he did for us (not living up to potential), it may be a good thin they have him rather than some cellar-dweller team. Dig?
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by Y5k on Sep 29, 2008 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Making the team
is only ideal for Darius if the risk to his knee isn’t as bad as we’ve heard.
It isn’t ideal for him if he makes the team and plays 1, 2, 3 years and then blows it out big time, and can never walk right again. It isn’t as if he needs to play a few more seasons for more money.
What is best for the Blazers is that the guys we have step up their game to such a level that we don’t need cap space because we will just keep the guys we have.
The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.
by jscot on Sep 29, 2008 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
we'd still need the cap space
we’ll need the space to resign the guys we have.
We cannot put up with this flagrant lack of accountability anymore.
by MT Suit on Sep 29, 2008 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We don't a' need cap space to sign our own dudes
Paul Allen and KP can pay as much as we want (up to the max, which is determined by years of service and other factors) and be ‘allowed’ to keep our current players without any cap space.
The Blazers will never “make money”, but that ain’t the point anywho.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Sep 29, 2008 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And not only that
We’ll have quite a bit of cap space even if Darius goes back on the books. But you are right, we don’t need it for our own guys.
The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.
by jscot on Sep 29, 2008 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
The doctors said that one more “serious” knee injury, or just 3 years of normal NBA wear-and-tear, would most likely lead to knee-replacement surgery.
That is really REALLY not good.
I do fully expect Miles to tear up the league this year, but he’s shown that, after getting big money, he takes a few years off effort-wise. This won’t be any different. Past actions are an accurate predictor of future performance.
"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ." -Gandhi
"Throw Thag, throw. Throw throw throw throw throw throw"- Far Side
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Sep 30, 2008 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll be surprised
if he tears up the league. Really surprised.
In fact, I do not consider it all that likely that he’ll make the Celtics.
1. They’ve got 14 guaranteed contracts, and are talking as if Cassell has made the team. So they are going to have to cut someone who is guaranteed to keep Darius.
2. Darius has a ten game suspension.
3. Darius can’t serve that suspension unless he is part of their active 12 man roster, which means they go into ten games with only 11 guys, just to get past his suspension.
4. It is not good for team chemistry to put one of your guys on reserve who could have seen some PT just so Darius can sit out a game (or ten) of his suspension.
Darius has to show that he is ready to play a key role in their rotation before they’ll do that. They won’t do it if he’s going to be their 11th or 12th man. I’m not persuaded he’s ready to do that. A guy who has to take pills to lose weight rather than work it off doesn’t strike me as someone who is ready to put in the effort to be good enough to become a key rotation player for the NBA champions.
The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.
by jscot on Oct 1, 2008 4:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Amazing Race and Portland
It premiered last night, in stunning HD. One of the best shows on TV, IMO. Had to Tivo the last hour or so, due to putting my son to bed, and other domestic issues.
SPOILER::::::::::::
(don’t read past this point)
I told you…
They did some filming here in Portland, outside my former office next to the Benson Hotel. That’s all I say.
You can pick your friends, and you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your friend's nose.
-- Unknown
by SloppyJoe on Sep 29, 2008 10:32 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
SPOILER
I heard that it was the finish line. Can you confirm.
"Greg Oden is the strongest guy in the NBA" - Channing Frye.
by TallTimber on Sep 29, 2008 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Confirmed
Pittock Mansion, to be exact.
You can pick your friends, and you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your friend's nose.
-- Unknown
by SloppyJoe on Sep 29, 2008 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you actually see the racers?
I live in Bend now but lived in Portland for 15 years. I am really looking forward to seeing that final episode.
"Greg Oden is the strongest guy in the NBA" - Channing Frye.
by TallTimber on Sep 29, 2008 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where's the coverage?
it’s 10:32, and I have yet to see any oregonlive coverage of Blazer’s media day today, or of training camp tomorrow..same with BEdge…
Feed me! Feed me!
You can pick your friends, and you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your friend's nose.
-- Unknown
by SloppyJoe on Sep 29, 2008 10:33 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The Blazers will make more money, as described by the Oregonian in the link at the top of the junk drawer
St. Bayno's 120 Haiku Prospects: Nicolas Batum in the paint—prairie grass, blown by wind. Jerryd Bayless—leaps over a kite string, and keeps going.
by Norsktroll on Sep 29, 2008 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Saw that..
Interesting stuff. I was hoping for something today about today’s festivities and the start of camp.
I shall remain patient.
You can pick your friends, and you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your friend's nose.
-- Unknown
by SloppyJoe on Sep 29, 2008 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
media day starts at 1
i will be there.
and will have a report from practice tomorrow as well.
BRANDON ROY GET WELL SOON
by Ben. on Sep 29, 2008 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So maybe this has been covered
but Marc Stein’s preseason power rankings are out. Blazers are listed at 13 (up from 17 to finish the year last year.
Looks pretty good to me, but how is Toronto ranked 3 spots ahead of us at #10 (up from 19 last year)? I mean, yeah, O’Neal is a great pickup, but do we even know exactly how they are planning on playing him with Bosh?
How is a 41-41 team from the Eastern Conference adding Jermaine O’Neal (and losing TJ Ford) better than a 41-41 team from the Western Conference adding Greg Oden, Rudy Fernandez, and Jerryd Bayless?
Word.
by joelor on Sep 29, 2008 10:38 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I saw that, maybe somebody wants to make a fanshot/fanpost for discussion?
Initial reaction: It seems pretty fair, but I didn’t look into all the details
St. Bayno's 120 Haiku Prospects: Nicolas Batum in the paint—prairie grass, blown by wind. Jerryd Bayless—leaps over a kite string, and keeps going.
by Norsktroll on Sep 29, 2008 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't have any objection to that, looks about right...
……………………… If the Blazers are good, they’ll rise. If they aren’t, they’ll fall. Fair enough.
"It's not a joke -- it's not a game." — B-Rex
by timbo on Sep 29, 2008 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We're a young team adding rookies
The Raps are a less-young team that added O’Neal.
I doubt we’ll see the Top 10 in Stein’s or anyone else’s list until January. That’s fine, as long as we’re there in April.
"Personally, I'd rather give an elephant a prostate exam on Chili Day." --Dave on rooting for the Lakers or Celtics
by MiledAnimal on Sep 29, 2008 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus the loss of TJ Ford is expected to not be as big of a deal
because that allows more time for Caulderon to do his thing.
by tingeyga on Sep 29, 2008 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
World Series prediction
Cubs vs Angels. Cubs win in 7.
Think about this: 2004: Red Sox win for first time in 80+ years. 2005: White Sox win for first time since throwing the Series in the Black Sox scandal. I can’t remember the year, but it was over 80 years ago I think.
2008: Cubs. Because it’s their turn to break their curse, just like both Sox teams did. And after they do, watch out for Cleveland, who I believe will take up the mantle of team with the longest drought since winning a Series (they last won, I think, in 1945 or 1946).
by DrivetheLane on Sep 29, 2008 11:01 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Do they still play that sport?
"It's not a joke -- it's not a game." — B-Rex
by timbo on Sep 29, 2008 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
in the Dominican Republic, Cuba and some place called Puerto Rico
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by Y5k on Sep 29, 2008 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno man, it all seem so............................. 19th Century!
"It's not a joke -- it's not a game." — B-Rex
by timbo on Sep 29, 2008 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Baseball is like longboarding
A fun thing to do but boring to watch
by southern oregon on Sep 29, 2008 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's useless for me to defend watching baseball.
Unless you’re a diehard, it is boring to watch. I love to watch it, but I admit that unless it’s a big game or a team I really enjoy watching, I don’t watch that much. I watched probably 140 less M’s games this year than I usually do.
by DrivetheLane on Sep 29, 2008 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
World Series prediction
Cubs vs. Rays
Rays Draw a Record 27,000 attendance, and no once really cares.
If a tree falls in the forrest and no one is there to hear it, oh wait, that’s Greg Oden during Dunking Practice, and the whole country wants to see our team play.
# 10 Top Charles Barkley Quote: On the Portland Trail Blazers (back when they were known as the Jail Blazers) serving Thanksgiving meals: "In between arrests they do community service."
by BlazermaniacAndy on Sep 29, 2008 12:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
World Series prediction
Seattle vs. ummm wait…..never mind.
He who laughs last thinks slowest.
by prezofdeath on Sep 29, 2008 12:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Holy Moly the Poo hit the Fan, I don't want to loose my house!!!!!
# 10 Top Charles Barkley Quote: On the Portland Trail Blazers (back when they were known as the Jail Blazers) serving Thanksgiving meals: "In between arrests they do community service."
by BlazermaniacAndy on Sep 29, 2008 12:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
(insert joke about making sure it's nailed to the foundation here)
……………………………… Why would you lose your house?
"It's not a joke -- it's not a game." — B-Rex
by timbo on Sep 29, 2008 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3683270/?GT1=43001
# 10 Top Charles Barkley Quote: On the Portland Trail Blazers (back when they were known as the Jail Blazers) serving Thanksgiving meals: "In between arrests they do community service."
by BlazermaniacAndy on Sep 29, 2008 12:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
McCain blames Obama for 2/3 of Republican House caucus voting NO to Bush Bailout Bill...
………………………………………….. More news from our erratic friend tonight at 11:00.
Dow takes a 600+ point hit (having been down 734 at one point with about an hour to go.)
"It's not a joke -- it's not a game." — B-Rex
by timbo on Sep 29, 2008 1:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ticker is still moving after the bell, it went from -590 to -667 in the 3 minutes after the bell...
……………………………… I love watching people gamble in casinos.
At the door is a man who will greet you!
"It's not a joke -- it's not a game." — B-Rex
by timbo on Sep 29, 2008 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
............................. still moving after the bell... to -689.
"It's not a joke -- it's not a game." — B-Rex
by timbo on Sep 29, 2008 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The games are hot....
hopefully not -666 hot
He who laughs last thinks slowest.
by prezofdeath on Sep 29, 2008 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
................... Now -720....... -732....... 7 minutes after the bell...
"It's not a joke -- it's not a game." — B-Rex
by timbo on Sep 29, 2008 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crazy!
He who laughs last thinks slowest.
by prezofdeath on Sep 29, 2008 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
........................ -735 (new all-tme record!)
"It's not a joke -- it's not a game." — B-Rex
by timbo on Sep 29, 2008 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
-738,42 (we have a winner, collect your bets now...)
…………………… Eight minutes after the close. It was minus 590-change at the bell.
"It's not a joke -- it's not a game." — B-Rex
by timbo on Sep 29, 2008 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There was a HUGE selloff at the close...
…………………………………… buckle up your chin-straps.
"It's not a joke -- it's not a game." — B-Rex
by timbo on Sep 29, 2008 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Watching it on money.cnn.com
crazy. I think it can change for up to 20 minutes after the bell, because these numbers are delayed by 20. Not sure though.
He who laughs last thinks slowest.
by prezofdeath on Sep 29, 2008 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
-748.00
We need an open thread for this.
He who laughs last thinks slowest.
by prezofdeath on Sep 29, 2008 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
-748.21 or -6.71%
Ouch.
He who laughs last thinks slowest.
by prezofdeath on Sep 29, 2008 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I better call my Wall Street buddies and make sure they're OK.
A lot of them have their pay wrapped up almost completely in what the market does.
http://www.myspace.com/y5k
by Y5k on Sep 29, 2008 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me too ;-)
St. Bayno's 120 Haiku Prospects: Nicolas Batum in the paint—prairie grass, blown by wind. Jerryd Bayless—leaps over a kite string, and keeps going.
by Norsktroll on Sep 29, 2008 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was sitting watching them try to jig the final figure in the last hour...
……………………………………………… It went from a daily low of -734 to -530 or so in 45 minutes, then slowly down to -590 at the bell and then BOOM, the bottom fell out…
"It's not a joke -- it's not a game." — B-Rex
by timbo on Sep 29, 2008 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
770.59 -6.92% now
And still changing.
He who laughs last thinks slowest.
by prezofdeath on Sep 29, 2008 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's like they were withholding data to create the illusion of the decline having stabilized...
"It's not a joke -- it's not a game." — B-Rex
by timbo on Sep 29, 2008 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
-777.69, 15 minutes after the close.
"It's not a joke -- it's not a game." — B-Rex
by timbo on Sep 29, 2008 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wowzers
I still think it’s not witholding data as much as it is that somehow there’s a 20-minute delay in what actually happens and what shows up on CNN, yahoo, scottrade, etc. I’ll have to look into it.
He who laughs last thinks slowest.
by prezofdeath on Sep 29, 2008 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Analyst on CNBC: "If I were McCain or Palin, I would be nearly suicidal" (over the Rs voting no and stock prices melting down)
"It's not a joke -- it's not a game." — B-Rex
by timbo on Sep 29, 2008 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
NASDAQ down 9.1%
"It's not a joke -- it's not a game." — B-Rex
by timbo on Sep 29, 2008 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Incredibly
The dollar hardly moved against the pound.
The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.
by jscot on Sep 29, 2008 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
but gold is way up, right?
http://www.myspace.com/y5k
by Y5k on Sep 29, 2008 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Slightly up, and the dollar didn't move...
…………………………….. Which makes me think that this was a mass herd-reaction to bad news, with people making their money on the down-side.
"It's not a joke -- it's not a game." — B-Rex
by timbo on Sep 29, 2008 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I bet Pelosi shorted Apple Inc. today
St. Bayno's 120 Haiku Prospects: Nicolas Batum in the paint—prairie grass, blown by wind. Jerryd Bayless—leaps over a kite string, and keeps going.
by Norsktroll on Sep 29, 2008 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you are right, timbo
The currency markets aren’t moving much because they expect a deal to be done.
They’ll make enough concessions here and there to get enough people on side to pass it on Thursday. And the big dealers in the currency markets are pretty sure of that.
It was dropping pretty hard before the vote, anyway. That’s partly Wachovia over there and B&B and Fortis over here.
But I suspect some traders got news that this thing was going to fail, so were shorting like crazy. Now that prices have dropped, they’ll probably cover their shorts tomorrow, and make a killing on Thursday when the modified bailout passes.
The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.
by jscot on Sep 29, 2008 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course they expect a deal to be done
Otherwise the markets would be down like 30%. They are just mad that the deal won’t be so sweet.
St. Bayno's 120 Haiku Prospects: Nicolas Batum in the paint—prairie grass, blown by wind. Jerryd Bayless—leaps over a kite string, and keeps going.
by Norsktroll on Sep 29, 2008 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's really only a matter of flipping a dozen votes... Not tough.
…………………………….. The traditional Republican mentality is to vote NO the first time a school levy comes up, to squeeze some profligacy out of the budget…
Same principle in play here. Wall Street can’t be THAT concerned about a delay of a few days…
"It's not a joke -- it's not a game." — B-Rex
by timbo on Sep 29, 2008 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank any of the D's will switch?
Or is it all going to be movement on the Republicans?
If they make concessions to the Reps, will any of the Dems get mad and switch to vote no?
Anyway, it will pass this week.
The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.
by jscot on Sep 29, 2008 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You all realize this is ...
… much ado about not that big a thing?
I keep thinking about how many times I’ve heard the term recession over the past year, which is pretty amazing when you consider the economy has not had a single quarter of negative growth. In case you’ve forgotten, a recession is defined as 3 consecutive quarters of negative growth.
If you listen to the media and the politicians, we are in a crisis of unprecidented proportion.. I say bullshit. The stock market goes up and down and is not the only (or even the best) indicator of the nation’s economic health. But they want us to think there is a crisis. That way the media has our attention (meaning advertising dollars), the politicans can appear to be doing something (which is often not what they are telling us – anyone catch the $25 billion handout to automakers last week?) and Wall Street investment bankers can get back to the good times.
Personally, I’m neutral on the rescue (or bailout) proposal. I can see both plusses and minuses. Mainly I’m enjoying watching everyone run around making fools of themselves. The only sad part is seeing how little most Americans understand about how both their government and their economy works. But then what do you expect from a nation that has forgotten what it means to save, live within one’s means and not think that a credit card is just like having a money tree in the back yard.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Sep 30, 2008 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course the media wants to do what will get them ratings
News media is first and foremost a business and that shouldn’t ever be forgotten when partaking in it. It has been a long time (if it ever was) since the primary purpose was to inform and not to stay in business.
by tingeyga on Sep 30, 2008 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's why I only read BE
Not much news, but lots of analysis.
"Personally, I'd rather give an elephant a prostate exam on Chili Day." --Dave on rooting for the Lakers or Celtics
by MiledAnimal on Sep 30, 2008 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man
I bet you have a conspiracy theory as to why you run out of toilet paper.
Blazers Edge has an alarmist vision
by tominhawaii on Sep 29, 2008 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
They put stuff in the water that affects my digestion, and so I use the stuff up fast.
The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.
by jscot on Sep 29, 2008 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aliens (working in concert with the CIA and Katie Couric) take all but a few squares
Along with one of each sock in the laundry basket.
Laugh all you want Tom, but I am not the one that is crazy, I am the one that is MAD!! Hehe hehe hehe.
"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ." -Gandhi
"Throw Thag, throw. Throw throw throw throw throw throw"- Far Side
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Sep 30, 2008 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Humm
Watching the news and a reporter from Korea is saying, “The board behind me is mostly green, reflecting the falling markets today.”
Apparently, green doesn’t mean increases in Korea?
He who laughs last thinks slowest.
by prezofdeath on Sep 29, 2008 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Red is a good luck color, is it not?
"It's not a joke -- it's not a game." — B-Rex
by timbo on Sep 29, 2008 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
must be.
If only that were true in america. We’d be luckier than irishmen on saint pattys day in a garden of four leaf clovers at the end of a rainbow with 4 boxes of lucky charms.
He who laughs last thinks slowest.
by prezofdeath on Sep 29, 2008 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That thing moved 100 points in 5 minutes... I just watched it!
………………………………. I prefer non-rigged forms of wagering!
"It's not a joke -- it's not a game." — B-Rex
by timbo on Sep 29, 2008 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome baby
somehow this is working for the good of the Blazers
He who laughs last thinks slowest.
by prezofdeath on Sep 29, 2008 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
sell sell sell!
http://www.myspace.com/y5k
by Y5k on Sep 29, 2008 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If everyone loses 50% of their money, that can only help us
I mean, it’s not like PA is going home crying when he’s got billions to spare. But the average owner? I’m sure we could buy the number one pick in next year’s draft for an ounce of silver right now.
He who laughs last thinks slowest.
by prezofdeath on Sep 29, 2008 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I might declare for the draft next year.
I could use an ounce of silver.
http://www.myspace.com/y5k
by Y5k on Sep 29, 2008 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yowzers
I had 500 I put into Charles Schwab to do some investing about 6 months ago. Boy am I happy I didn’t buy anything.
He who laughs last thinks slowest.
by prezofdeath on Sep 29, 2008 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My favorite thing of the day in that arena
Is Palin making “Biden is old” jokes at a recent rally.
We really wouldn’t want someone THAT old in the White House, would we?
Someone in their 60s has one foot in the grave, it’d be INSANE to have someone that old running for public office, let alone one as important as the presidency.
As long as someone is healthy the age isn’t a huge concern to me, but… kinda strange to make fun of the age of the VP candidate… when… umm… your guy… is, well… I dunno.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Sep 29, 2008 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mortimer for King
http://www.myspace.com/y5k
by Y5k on Sep 29, 2008 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That line of argument didn't work against Reagan...
……………………………………. Then again, Reagan had handlers that kept him from running around acting bat-guano-crazy…
"It's not a joke -- it's not a game." — B-Rex
by timbo on Sep 29, 2008 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
WOW
did you find a story about this somewhere? Because that is shocking.
Word.
by joelor on Sep 29, 2008 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's one with video
I didn’t watch this particular video, but should include it.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/29/palin-takes-on-biden-directly-as-debate-looms/
Age and experience is bad, says the McCain ticket?
Mort—!
by Mortimer on Sep 29, 2008 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I should also point out
I am not saying this is a “real” issue, just an odd jab at someone’s age and experience when that is one of the key running points of their own campaign.
I am also virulently anti lame jokes, unless done ironically.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Sep 29, 2008 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha ha ha...
“I’ve been hearing about his Senate speeches since I was in, like, second grade.”
I don’t think the McCain-Palin campaign has complete clarity on the “experience” issue…
That was the ONE issue they were getting traction from. Whoops.
"It's not a joke -- it's not a game." — B-Rex
by timbo on Sep 29, 2008 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Experience in Washington is VITAL for a President -- but it's a big negative for a Veep -- so VOTE REPUBLICAN!!!"
………………………….. Not a particularly coherent slogan, but god bless ’em…
"It's not a joke -- it's not a game." — B-Rex
by timbo on Sep 29, 2008 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or it could be...
“If you want change, Biden ain’t it.”
If the issue is trying to change the culture in Washington, then it is no contest, based on track record, which ticket offers a better chance at that.
If the issue is trying to change from the current (somewhat Republican) policies to Democratic Part policies, then again, it’s no contest.
People just need to be honest in exactly what sort of change they are asking for.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Sep 30, 2008 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Palin totally should have challenged Biden to a wet-tshirt contest
Biden’s got some jiggle to work with, but Palin has the “experience”.
"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ." -Gandhi
"Throw Thag, throw. Throw throw throw throw throw throw"- Far Side
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Sep 30, 2008 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We need to find the truth
The New York Times needs to find her work from the 2nd grade and find out what she said about Biden back in the day to see if she truly DID hear about his speeches then, and what she felt about it at the time.
ON THIS, ALL DEPENDS.
Just strange… so strange…
I… I just don’t know. It’s like things… stuff… doesn’t have to mean something, because it is just a thing… and things are just stuff said to have words come out… that are… things. And stuff.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Sep 29, 2008 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or, for you Communications majors from University of Idaho out there:
“The liberal media elite needs to, like, find her work from the 2nd grade to, like, find out what she said about the entrenched liberal politicians in Washington…”
"It's not a joke -- it's not a game." — B-Rex
by timbo on Sep 29, 2008 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Another Mortimer classic.
The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.
by jscot on Sep 29, 2008 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was . . . awesome
And exceptional. It was, ya know, awesome and exceptional.
by Corvid on Sep 29, 2008 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sort of like the Dem's saying Palin lacks experience.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Sep 30, 2008 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bloodbath
I buy when there is Blood in the streets
Sophia
"i'll try to find 'em- an' i'll breeng um too yuh"- Sarah Palin
I detest that man who hides one thing in the depths of his heart, and speaks for another. - Homer
by BlazerFan1 on Sep 29, 2008 1:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Old Italian saying
http://www.myspace.com/y5k
by Y5k on Sep 29, 2008 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
:-)
.
"i'll try to find 'em- an' i'll breeng um too yuh"- Sarah Palin
I detest that man who hides one thing in the depths of his heart, and speaks for another. - Homer
by BlazerFan1 on Sep 29, 2008 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My only green stock right now is Apple I guess :)
I try not to sell anything in the next month.
St. Bayno's 120 Haiku Prospects: Nicolas Batum in the paint—prairie grass, blown by wind. Jerryd Bayless—leaps over a kite string, and keeps going.
by Norsktroll on Sep 29, 2008 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
One of the blowhard Right Wing Reps from Texas just all but said there will be a deal by Friday in an interview on CNBC...
………………………………… They’ll turn the top-end value from $700B to $685B and there will be much crowing about the savings made on behalf of taxpayers, or some such.
"It's not a joke -- it's not a game." — B-Rex
by timbo on Sep 29, 2008 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
A few guys will get enough concessions to go home before the election and say, “I DID IT! I’m the one who held out and fixed this bad bill. It’s still bad, but it’s better than it would have been because of ME! If I hadn’t voted against it before I voted for it, we wouldn’t have had this useless important provision! That’s what I fought for, and you need to send me back to do it again!”
The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.
by jscot on Sep 29, 2008 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly.
How Oregon’s posturing politicians voted:
OREGON
Democrats — Blumenauer, N; DeFazio, N; Hooley, Y; Wu, N.
Republicans — Walden, Y.
Somewhat surprising that Earl and Wu voted no. Hooley is a centrist through and through… DeFazio won’t flip, I don’t think.
"It's not a joke -- it's not a game." — B-Rex
by timbo on Sep 29, 2008 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting
People here are basically blaming the Reps for it failing, but plenty of Democrats voted no, too. Seems like a bipartisan vote for and a bipartisan vote against.
Bipartisan != good. In fact, if Ds and Rs agree on something (or Lab/Tory here), I become highly suspicious.
The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.
by jscot on Sep 29, 2008 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know Wu and have always respected DeFazio.
Wu is one of only two Dem’s I’ve ever voted for (at the national level). DeFazio, while I disagree with on several issues, has always struck me as one of the few politicians with principles.
The fact both voted no suggests to me that perhaps the rescue plan is not the best track to take.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Sep 30, 2008 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apple?
Sorry, dude. It fell almost 18% today (http://moneycentral.msn.com/detail/stock_quote?Symbol=aapl).
Ironically, Microsoft outperformed Apple by only falling 9% (http://moneycentral.msn.com/detail/stock_quote?Symbol=msft).
by DonkeyShins on Sep 29, 2008 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, but I bought it super low, so I'm still positive on that one
St. Bayno's 120 Haiku Prospects: Nicolas Batum in the paint—prairie grass, blown by wind. Jerryd Bayless—leaps over a kite string, and keeps going.
by Norsktroll on Sep 29, 2008 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Question Jscott
Has to ask himself is being ruler of the world really worth the headaches
by southern oregon on Sep 29, 2008 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
....................... but it IS a great way to pick up chicks, keep that in mind...
"It's not a joke -- it's not a game." — B-Rex
by timbo on Sep 29, 2008 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And he could employ Paul Allen as his CFO and KP as his negotiator
St. Bayno's 120 Haiku Prospects: Nicolas Batum in the paint—prairie grass, blown by wind. Jerryd Bayless—leaps over a kite string, and keeps going.
by Norsktroll on Sep 29, 2008 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not actually
experiencing any need to be ruler of the world in that category. But I can understand why YOU would be thinking that way.
The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.
by jscot on Sep 29, 2008 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ouch! Zing!
"It's not a joke -- it's not a game." — B-Rex
by timbo on Sep 29, 2008 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
YOu don't pick them up.
They flock to you.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Sep 30, 2008 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Hey baby, wanna be my Veep?"
You’re right, it has a nice ring to it.
"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ." -Gandhi
"Throw Thag, throw. Throw throw throw throw throw throw"- Far Side
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Sep 30, 2008 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Worth the headaches?
Look, when I’m ruler of the world, people will pay their mortgages on pain of death.
It really will solve all of these problems. If somebody can’t make the payments, their life insurance will cover it for sure.
The banks will be on sound footing again. They won’t make loans that people can’t pay, because that will make them accessories to murder. People WON’T get greedy and buy a house they can’t afford.
And those who do blow it will, um, reduce the unemployment lines by their departure.
You guys just need to learn to think creatively.
The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.
by jscot on Sep 29, 2008 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
*Will people who can't pay their mortgages have life insurance?
Word.
by joelor on Sep 29, 2008 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
......................... would YOU buy a house that dead people used to own?
"It's not a joke -- it's not a game." — B-Rex
by timbo on Sep 29, 2008 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Depends
if you mean that somebody who used to live in that house is dead, then it might be most houses.
But if you mean that somebody died in that house, then probably not.
by tingeyga on Sep 29, 2008 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We actually won't
carry out the sentence in their homes. That might devalue the asset — blood stains on the carpet tend to put off buyers.
The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.
by jscot on Sep 29, 2008 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's why I like wood floors
A little wax ahead of time and you can clean bankruptcy/ foreclosure victims up with a single sheet of paper towel.
"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ." -Gandhi
"Throw Thag, throw. Throw throw throw throw throw throw"- Far Side
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Sep 30, 2008 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think
that when I rule the world, I will be able to find a job for you.
The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.
by jscot on Oct 1, 2008 5:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No house
has ever belonged to dead people.
It belongs to living people until they die, then it belongs to their heirs, or their creditors, or the state, or the guy who killed them and took it.
You can’t take it with you — but they can take it from you, or take you from it.
The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.
by jscot on Sep 30, 2008 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It wont be an issue
Everyone will be living in caves
by southern oregon on Sep 29, 2008 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oooooooh!
Sea Lion Caves??? Can we really?
"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ." -Gandhi
"Throw Thag, throw. Throw throw throw throw throw throw"- Far Side
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Sep 30, 2008 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've been making homemade wine all day. Mmmmmmm
Although my version tastes more like Sparkling grape juice.
I'm a little confused by your tactics
by oderiferous emanations 74 on Sep 29, 2008 1:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
you ferment grapes in a day?
or you are finally drinking the product..
"i'll try to find 'em- an' i'll breeng um too yuh"- Sarah Palin
I detest that man who hides one thing in the depths of his heart, and speaks for another. - Homer
by BlazerFan1 on Sep 29, 2008 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I juice about 16 pounds of Concord grapes
Add a tablespoon of sea salt and a 1/2 cup of Continental acidophilus and stir. I let it ferment at room temp for two days and then I put it into air tight mason jars and refrigerate.
You get all of the health benefits and enzymes of wine without the nasty wine taste. For the first month or so it tastes like sparkling grape juice.
I'm a little confused by your tactics
by oderiferous emanations 74 on Sep 29, 2008 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
im so gonna do that!
sounds soo good
Sophia
PS do u get drunk?
"i'll try to find 'em- an' i'll breeng um too yuh"- Sarah Palin
I detest that man who hides one thing in the depths of his heart, and speaks for another. - Homer
by BlazerFan1 on Sep 29, 2008 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I prefer the easy method
A fifth of HRD vodka and a costco crate of juice-boxes.
"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ." -Gandhi
"Throw Thag, throw. Throw throw throw throw throw throw"- Far Side
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Sep 30, 2008 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ugh, Glen Beck... "The problem is not capitalism, the problem is greed..."
……………………….. ummmmm, the problem is unregulated capitalism, which allows free-range greed.
"It's not a joke -- it's not a game." — B-Rex
by timbo on Sep 29, 2008 1:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
dont watch that douche
he is inflamatory. The Repubs are undercover FREAKING OUT.
They are pissed at GWB for ruining their brand.
Sophia
"i'll try to find 'em- an' i'll breeng um too yuh"- Sarah Palin
I detest that man who hides one thing in the depths of his heart, and speaks for another. - Homer
by BlazerFan1 on Sep 29, 2008 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is a rare time when Left Wing Democrats and Right Wing Republicans are temporary allies...
………………………………………. Let the greedheads drown.
"It's not a joke -- it's not a game." — B-Rex
by timbo on Sep 29, 2008 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Horray for solid ground between the two
—- any port in a storm
http://www.myspace.com/y5k
by Y5k on Sep 29, 2008 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's actually a pretty good indicator that Barry is NOT a lefty that he's pushing for the Bush Bailout...
……………………………………. although that became crystal clear to me when he voted wrong on telecom immunity…
He’s a centrist, just less shameless than Clinton & Co.
"It's not a joke -- it's not a game." — B-Rex
by timbo on Sep 29, 2008 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that telecom thing was a farse.
http://www.myspace.com/y5k
by Y5k on Sep 29, 2008 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In what universe does Capitalism NOT equal greed?
And is the sky blue there?
"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ." -Gandhi
"Throw Thag, throw. Throw throw throw throw throw throw"- Far Side
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Sep 30, 2008 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This universe
Timbo got it right (I hate saying that). Unregulated capitalism allows free-range greed. But they aren’t the same thing.
Capitalism, at its best, allows those who work hard to benefit from their effort, and does not shelter the lazy from the consequences of their laziness. At its worst, it permits and even encourages greediness.
Socialism, at its best, helps those who are struggling and inhibits greediness. At its worst, it permits and even encourages laziness.
Not everyone in a capitalist system is greedy. Not everyone in a socialist system is lazy. The problem is always inside the person. No system will ever solve laziness or greed, they will only restrict those vices, or at least limit the damage those vices do to others. But the system itself (either system) is not the vice.
Greedy people tend to like capitalism because it gives more scope to pursue their own vice. Lazy people tend to like socialism because it gives more scope to pursue their vice.
People who are neither lazy nor greedy will prefer one system or another based on whether they see greed or laziness as the greatest danger to themselves personally or to society as a whole. That perception is often largely based on their own personal experience, rather than any objective measurements.
When I rule the world, we’ll sort all this out. But I’m not telling how, in case some politician takes my solution, runs with it, and messes it up because he isn’t as good as I am at this kind of stuff.
The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.
by jscot on Oct 1, 2008 5:12 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
You are a clear thinker and writer, jscot.
"Personally, I'd rather give an elephant a prostate exam on Chili Day." --Dave on rooting for the Lakers or Celtics
by MiledAnimal on Oct 1, 2008 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's why
my prediction of 55 wins is iron-clad.
Thanks for the compliment. I think that my writing is usually too wordy, which can damage clarity. I not only like the sound of my own voice, I like the view of my own typing. A bad flaw sometimes.
The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.
by jscot on Oct 1, 2008 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm predicting 55 wins for the Blazers, too
May I be your mini-me?
"Personally, I'd rather give an elephant a prostate exam on Chili Day." --Dave on rooting for the Lakers or Celtics
by MiledAnimal on Oct 1, 2008 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But success in capitalism is determined by profit
So your argument only works if people are not intrinsically desirous of being successful.
And I think that they are. The desire to turn the biggest profit, be the biggest success, leads directly to greed.
So I’ll change my response to, “In what universe does OUR capitalist system not equal greed?”
Better?
"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ." -Gandhi
"Throw Thag, throw. Throw throw throw throw throw throw"- Far Side
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Oct 1, 2008 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are saying
that our capitalist system leads to greed.
But if that were the case, then everyone in a capitalist system would be greedy. It’s not true. Lots of people retire early, or settle for less lucrative jobs. I’ve settled for a less lucrative job myself, so that I could do other things I want to do. Yet, I’m successful, as far as most people would be concerned, in the capitalist sense.
But I’m not money motivated at all, other than earning enough to pay the bills. I certainly don’t have the desire to make the biggest profit or be the biggest success financially. So does living in a moderately capitalist society (lots of socialist tenets in our system here in Scotland, but still capitalist) make one greedy? Of course not.
I would say that elements of capitalism encourage greed, but not that it leads to greed. Everyone makes their own decision on what they are going to do and be, how they are going to respond. An economic system never gives us our motivations, or forces us to have them. Your dislike for greed is simple proof of my point. If capitalism inevitably leads to it, you would be greedy, and therefore support capitalism because it would help your greed.
You have a valid point, that capitalism encourages greed. You are just overstating it.
The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.
by jscot on Oct 1, 2008 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could agree that capitalism provides an opportunity
for greedy people to feed their greed, but it doesn’t encourage greed any more than a local bank encourages bank robbers to make unauthorized withdrawals.
"Personally, I'd rather give an elephant a prostate exam on Chili Day." --Dave on rooting for the Lakers or Celtics
by MiledAnimal on Oct 1, 2008 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would say it encourages greed
in the sense that greed is actually rewarded in unrestricted capitalism. If you choose to make decisions based on greed, you will often receive the riches you sought.
Whether that turns out to be a true reward is quite another question. Money really never satisfies.
The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.
by jscot on Oct 2, 2008 1:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe not, but I wouldn't mind discovering that for myself!
"Personally, I'd rather give an elephant a prostate exam on Chili Day." --Dave on rooting for the Lakers or Celtics
by MiledAnimal on Oct 2, 2008 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess I just (really) disagree
Greed is rewarded in our capitalist system. It is occasionally punished, as is the case right now, but there will be some new way of making semi-legitimate money arising as we speak. I am not saying there are better systems than capitalism, just that capitalism requires a modicrum of guilt to be successful.
Investors demand higher and higher returns on their investments. When they don’t come in sufficient quantities, they fire CEOs, short-sell the stock, etc. How is this not greed-driven?
"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ." -Gandhi
"Throw Thag, throw. Throw throw throw throw throw throw"- Far Side
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Oct 1, 2008 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe they just want higher returns
so they can have enough money to have a decent retirement. I don’t consider that greed.
Maybe a lot of investors don’t demand higher returns, and are just looking for a decent return. Very, very few investors short-sell.
The presence of greed-driven activity within a capitalist system doesn’t mean it equals greed, any more than the presence of laziness within a socialist system means it equals laziness. There are greedy people in socialist systems, and lazy people in capitalist systems. There are rapists in sexually repressive societies and rapists in societies with few moral standards. No society creates the rapist, he decides to be a rapist.
Even the Muslim clerics who (in some extreme cases) have issued fighters with blank marriages so they can be free to do what they want with captured women aren’t making those fighters rapists. They may encourage it, but those fighters make their own decisions.
It comes down to personal responsibility, and personal decisions.
The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.
by jscot on Oct 2, 2008 1:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In my opinion much of what we do comes down...
… to personal choices. But a lot of people don’t like to accept that concept. They seem to prefer pointing to things out of their control or amorphous “thems”, which they define only generally.
Not sure why. I suspect it is because most people don’t like facing the reality that where they are in life is mostly the result of their own doing.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Oct 2, 2008 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
the “thems” are out there, but usually we can overcome them if we make right decisions.
The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.
by jscot on Oct 2, 2008 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is the casino closed for Rosh Hashanah tomorrow?
…………………………………. get READY TO ROCK on Wednesday, if so…
"It's not a joke -- it's not a game." — B-Rex
by timbo on Sep 29, 2008 1:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Haha, I was in Vegas
I might be the only one who made money this weekend.
Word.
by joelor on Sep 29, 2008 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope you put it all on red...
"It's not a joke -- it's not a game." — B-Rex
by timbo on Sep 29, 2008 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Answering my question above: the market is open, congress is closed...
"It's not a joke -- it's not a game." — B-Rex
by timbo on Sep 29, 2008 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's a game:
Without cheating, who is this?
Word.
by joelor on Sep 29, 2008 1:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
sorry to spoil the fun..
but she still looks good. her eyes are just opened wider than normal
by DrivetheLane on Sep 29, 2008 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What did she get busted for again?
"It's not a joke -- it's not a game." — B-Rex
by timbo on Sep 29, 2008 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
DUI
but not for alcohol. More likely prescription drugs. The report said she was sitting in her car with it parked halfway in the street, disoriented, after running over a pair of sunglasses several times.
Very odd.
Word.
by joelor on Sep 29, 2008 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
“UV protection my ass. how ’bout SUV protection.”
http://www.myspace.com/y5k
by Y5k on Sep 29, 2008 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
"Amphetamines, anyone?"
"It's not a joke -- it's not a game." — B-Rex
by timbo on Sep 29, 2008 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Diet Pills, Timbo
Here in the ’States, we say “diet pills”.
"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ." -Gandhi
"Throw Thag, throw. Throw throw throw throw throw throw"- Far Side
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Sep 30, 2008 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Twiggs after 24-hour Rudy steakout.
http://www.myspace.com/y5k
by Y5k on Sep 29, 2008 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OMG HILARIOUS!
"i'll try to find 'em- an' i'll breeng um too yuh"- Sarah Palin
I detest that man who hides one thing in the depths of his heart, and speaks for another. - Homer
by BlazerFan1 on Sep 29, 2008 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mmmmmmmm, steak!!!
"It's not a joke -- it's not a game." — B-Rex
by timbo on Sep 29, 2008 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Typo alert! stakeout at the steakhouse ...
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by Y5k on Sep 29, 2008 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if they went Kobiashi on the porterhouse...
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by timbo on Sep 29, 2008 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
....................... I would have said tenderloin, but I didn't want to go there...
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by timbo on Sep 29, 2008 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
................. I wonder if carne and carnal come from the same root...
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by timbo on Sep 29, 2008 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
............................ not that I want to be talking about rooting in a public forum like this...
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by timbo on Sep 29, 2008 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who, me?
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by timbo on Sep 29, 2008 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rudy to Twiggs: "I love the carne asada.........."
……………………… I missed my calling as a Latin lover.
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by timbo on Sep 29, 2008 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, foreign euphemism puns about sex
You can’t get THAT on Hoopsworld!
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by TheThinWhiteDuke on Sep 30, 2008 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
etymology to the rescue
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by Y5k on Sep 29, 2008 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs