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Sergio States His Case

If one Spanish language interview in which Sergio Rodriguez questions his future with the team wasn't enough, here's another one courtesy of UltimateNBA.com. 

The money quote (translated by HoopsHype) this time, consistent with the money quote from last time...

I've always wanted to succeed in Portland, although if it's not possible and in order to play consistently I have to change teams, whatever it takes.  I'll do anything to have success in the league.

If Sergio was in this thing for the long haul, his answer to the question would have read something like..

I've always wanted to succeed in Portland and it's a great learning experience playing behind consummate professionals like Steve Blake and Brandon Roy.  Learning from them is the best way for me to have success in the league.

So, yeah, Sergio didn't say that.

Hopefully, even Sergio's most ardent supporters will now realize that Sergio and his agent are chumming the waters for a trade to a team that will give him more minutes, Sergio's best chance to prove that he is an NBA point guard.  

Given Sergio's position on the depth chart in our loaded backcourt, it's the smart move. If Sergio's position is "play me or trade me" I think the Blazers will, eventually, be happy to select what's behind door number 2.  Assuming they can find a willing trade partner.

Like I've said before, the writing is graffiti'd all over this wall.  Especially with Quick's news that Kevin Pritchard is still giving thought to Shaun Livingston.  Whether or not KP signs Livingston is irrelevant; the mere fact that he's mulling the possibility speaks volumes about Sergio's future with the team. 

If you are a true Sergio fan, you should be demanding a trade.  If Sergio will shine, it's not going to be in Portland. 

It's not personal Sergio supporters, it's strictly business.

UPDATE: Here's another reaction from Dwight Jaynes

This doesn't mean he's dished out a play-me-or-trade-me ultimatum. He doesn't have to, does he? The Blazers can't really be pondering keeping him on the roster through another season, can they? Seriously? They've already made up their minds about him - I think at this point they're just trying to see if he can bring them back anything of value in trade. A first-round draft choice, at the very least.

I believe he will play well in the NBA for somebody, particularly a team that likes to play an uptempo game. But for all concerned, it looks to me as if it would be best for him to move on. Can you blame him for wanting to play?

-- Ben (benjamin.golliver@gmail.com)

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I dunno.

This still doesn’t feel like Sergio is demanding a trade, playing time or anything. Maybe it is because Sergio is inconsequential enough that, no matter how loudly he screams, it still sounds like a squeak.

superfluous

by lukeyhere on Sep 22, 2008 10:01 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

buh-bye, serg...

it’s been… a couple of years.

And that’s about it.

Good luck, bud.

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by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Sep 22, 2008 10:05 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Ben, the link isn't working for me. Is it me?

"Aneurysm".

When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie

by annthefan on Sep 22, 2008 10:06 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

thanks ann

shame on me and sorry about that. fixed.

btw annthefaneurysm for the win.

BRANDON ROY GET WELL SOON

by Ben. on Sep 22, 2008 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The writing graffiti'ed all over the wall

The first guy to see such graffiti is usually the guy who put it there.

Ben, the cops are looking for you. :)

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by jscot on Sep 22, 2008 10:12 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Seriously Ben

Can we talk about something, positive for once? Sheesh…

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by BlazerFan1 on Sep 22, 2008 10:18 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

lol

please see our other 3 posts from the last 24 hours.

BRANDON ROY GET WELL SOON

by Ben. on Sep 22, 2008 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i forgot the sarcasm font SORRY!

:) You know i’ve already read the previous posts…

Sophia

"Thank God those nightmarish booty-less days are behind us. I blame cocaine."-Mortimer
I detest that man who hides one thing in the depths of his heart, and speaks for another. - Homer
That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
1881
The wild hawk stood with the down on his beak And stared with his foot on the prey. - Lord Alfred Tennyson

by BlazerFan1 on Sep 22, 2008 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ah gotcha sorry these rascals have me jumpy lol

BRANDON ROY GET WELL SOON

by Ben. on Sep 22, 2008 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Soooo......

Give me a list of potential trade partners … and please do so without mentioning #25 or Z-bo, unless it’s to state that Z-bo could go anywhere but back to Portland, where #25 will be retiring after 16 great seasons.

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by Y5k on Sep 22, 2008 10:29 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Reportedly the Blazers offered #25 and Sergio for Mike Conley (twice)

There you go.

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by Norsktroll on Sep 22, 2008 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love Sergio and think he'll develop into a great (YES I SAID IT) NBA PG

but you’re probably right that it won’t be here. He’s young and can run and distribute. Learning to finish and shoot won’t be that challenging if he gets around to it. If we could give him another 4 years to develop, that’d be great. It doesn’t sound like that’s how he wants to accomplish it, though. Such a shame, though. If he could just grasp the finishing, shooting and play a little D, man he’d be awesome.

Oh well, maybe we’ll get PetKo in a year or two. Then, we’ll have another under dog PG to root for.

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by hobobob on Sep 22, 2008 10:30 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Yes...

and if I could just grasp the tallness, quickness, and strength, I’d be an awesome NBA center. OK, it’d help if I were 30 years younger too.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Sep 22, 2008 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can sell you a cream for that

But seriously, he’s got a tremendous passing game. That sort of thing’s much harder to develop than a shot.

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by hobobob on Sep 22, 2008 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Sergio's only deficiency was his outside shooting, I'd be more optimistic

But there’s a whole range of skills that go into being an effective, NBA-level point guard—most of them difficult to develop. As you said, Sergio has the running and distributing parts down. But that doesn’t get it done at this level. Or even at the Euro level: there’s a reason Sergio can’t crack the roster on the Spanish national team.

Sergio is still young and may improve. But he’s got a long ways to go. As do I in my quest to replace Steven Hill as the Blazers’ 3rd string back-up center.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Sep 22, 2008 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe you're the underdog I can root for

Go for it, man, don’t let anything stop you.

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by hobobob on Sep 22, 2008 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the support

I may be asking you for that cream. I’m still struggling with the height thing. But I’m only 15" or so away…

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Sep 22, 2008 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Always love a Godfather reference

by JMoon on Sep 22, 2008 10:39 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Well.....

I agree but I think you’re about a month premature, Ben.

Sergio has every chance to earn playing minutes in training camp and in the preseason. If he can’t earn PT by the start of the season, then he deserves to be traded to a place where he can get minutes (Miami?). Such a trade might not happen until February, but it will probably happen.

by Storyteller on Sep 22, 2008 10:46 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

sergio and his agent aren't hesitating

so i’m right beside them… but you’re right that these things take time.

i do think it’s a bad sign that they’ve started this early though— it would seem to project a lack of faith in his ability to earn minutes.

BRANDON ROY GET WELL SOON

by Ben. on Sep 22, 2008 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or a lack of faith in this ability to

be fairly awarded minutes. I AM NOT SAYING THAT’S THE CASE. But, if you percieve that, you may as well act accordingly.

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by hobobob on Sep 22, 2008 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

indeed

BRANDON ROY GET WELL SOON

by Ben. on Sep 22, 2008 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It started at the end of the last season.

Actually it started the day Sergio put his feet in Portland. If you watch his video at the Portland official site you´ll heard: “I want to play, I wan to play as many minutes as posible”.

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by amlmart1 on Sep 22, 2008 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Livingstone ain't gonna happen and Sergio will find another NBA team

The trade will likely be a mere formality, with Sergio thrown in with some other entity (a draft pick, perhaps, or a RLEC or some other EC) in order to obtain a draft pick and or a different EC. There’ll be ECs flying, I tell you. Gonna be a huge EC blockbuster.

Their 'thinking' is based not on critical judgment, but on what authority figures have said to them.

Many of them would attack France, Massachusetts, or the moon if the president said it was necessary "for freedom."

Highly compliant with social conventions, pro-conformity. Feel safer in the presence of powerful authorities. Often highly religious, zealous, dogmatic, moralistic, moderate to little education, narrow-minded, intolerant, highly prejudiced, hostile and bigoted towards minorities, bullying, mean-spirited, severely punitive, panic easily.

As distasteful as these qualities appear, for authoritarians they can be (secretly or even openly) very attractive.

by dwarfgoper on Sep 22, 2008 10:46 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

As stated in the other thread...

Some people unhappy in the previous thread are not Sergio supporters. Please don’t lump us all together and dismiss us as “Sergio fans” or lackeys or whatever. We were unhappy with the article and the use of the translation, irrespective of the player.

(And with that, I’ll pipe down in this thread. People asking for responsible reporting seem to be discouraged here right now)

by Timmay! on Sep 22, 2008 10:47 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

What did they say wrong?

Why is fact-checking so 1990s?

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by hobobob on Sep 22, 2008 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Livingston could be in Portland as early as the press conference to introduce Rudy

KP might channel his inner Steve Jobs. “Thanks Rudy, but there is one more thing…” ;-)

St. Bayno's 120 Haiku Prospects: Nicolas Batum in the paint—prairie grass, blown by wind.

by Norsktroll on Sep 22, 2008 10:48 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That could never have been

Today was Rudy’s day. There was no way we could possibly get any Livingston news before tomorrow at the earliest.

by jaywalker on Sep 22, 2008 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Another angle of question is:

Which NBA teams might express an interest in young Mr. Rodriguez? Are there any that immediately come to mind?

I’ve heard D’Antoni and his new outfit the Knicks but I doubt D’Antoni would gamble on a guy that his former team already passed up.

Their 'thinking' is based not on critical judgment, but on what authority figures have said to them.

Many of them would attack France, Massachusetts, or the moon if the president said it was necessary "for freedom."

Highly compliant with social conventions, pro-conformity. Feel safer in the presence of powerful authorities. Often highly religious, zealous, dogmatic, moralistic, moderate to little education, narrow-minded, intolerant, highly prejudiced, hostile and bigoted towards minorities, bullying, mean-spirited, severely punitive, panic easily.

As distasteful as these qualities appear, for authoritarians they can be (secretly or even openly) very attractive.

by dwarfgoper on Sep 22, 2008 10:49 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Ben, Ben, Ben...

Sounding a little defensive. It’s not that your opinion isn’t valid. I think most people looking at this roster should understand that Sergio’s position is very fragile. Everything you say could easily be how things happen. It’s just the way you are presenting it. Partial quotes and re-writing quotes to “be” what he should of said? Come on. Yes, Sergio is a long shot for playing time and probably a long shot for a place on The Blazers. However, the thing about long shots, they get to run the race and sometimes they come in. Sergio is just stating the truth about his reality, he is probably sending a subtle message to other teams…that all doesn’t mean that he couldn’t beat the odds and find a way to stay on The Blazers. The other truth that Sergio realizes is that he has outlasted not only Taureen Green (whom The Blazers were initially high on) and Jarret Jack. Maybe he will be traded ASAP, but maybe he get’s his chance and we will see what the season brings. When it boils down to it, it won’t be so much what Sergio is quoted as saying, so much as what KP and McMillan eventually say.

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by Krang on Sep 22, 2008 10:51 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Isn't he Allen's pet project

Usually, pets have staying power.

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by hobobob on Sep 22, 2008 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

Allen went ahead and bought the pick, but it was KP call all the way.

Joel Freeland=Stud

by hightide on Sep 22, 2008 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I may be wrong

But I recall that Allen was the driving force: that he had been very high on Sergio. Then when KP came to Allen on draft day and said some cash could make it happen, Allen said go for it. Sorry, tho, I have no link: just a fuzzy recollection.

My own sense is that Sergio has stuck around so long for two reasons: 1) he HAD been an owner’s pick; and 2) it was thought that he could serve as Rudy bait (and a Rudy interpreter). But considering Sergio’s apparent disgruntlement, it’s doubtful that reason #2 is still operable. I’d guess that reason #1 has run out also.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Sep 22, 2008 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What it signifies

That only means that Sergio is less politic than perhaps he should be. If put on a polygraph I think most players would have to admit the same sentiment.

by cantdunk on Sep 22, 2008 10:59 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed...

Brandon, Greg, and Lamarcus could be saying the exact same things. If they don’t get minutes, they will want to go somewhere they can get minutes. It’s just something they don’t have to worry about.

I don’t think this stuff is worthy of front-page posting, as much as I enjoy and respect all of your other postings, Ben.

"... and with the thirteenth pick in the 2008 NBA draft, the Portland Trailblazers select: David Bowie, of space." Draft Bowie!

by Sarbonis on Sep 22, 2008 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Chumming the waters for a trade" is ACCURATE.

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by timbo on Sep 22, 2008 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whoa man

We know your laid back style (ironic considering your name), but I hardly took that as alarmist. He’s just talking about a trend in the narrative that Sergio’s putting out there. It’s a perceptive post full of speculation (this is way more like a column than a report, which I assume it’s meant to be). He’s providing analysis.

I’m all for Sergio, but it’s up to us to interpret what he’s saying (he meaning both Ben and Sergio). Most of the folks here know NBA players say this or think this. It’s hardly an indictment of Sergio. It’s just showing us what he’s thinking. That doesn’t make him bad. It’s just what it is.

What’s wrong with simplicity? A good theory strives for parsimony. It leaves a lot of wiggle room that an adute reader needs to fill in with situational specifics.

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by hobobob on Sep 22, 2008 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

adute is a new word for astute incidentally. that's copyrighted.

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by hobobob on Sep 22, 2008 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought it was a typo

I assumed you meant, “a dude reader.”

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Sep 22, 2008 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

3 interviews in 10 days (between his agent and sergio)

all with the same refrain.

these statements are not an accident. come on…

any player “could” think these things but they don’t say so publicly (and they definitely don’t repeat it twice and have their agent weigh in too) unless they have a reason to do so.

it’s clear what sergio’s reasons could be: increased playing time or a trade. he says as much.

if any other blazer made similar statements publicly it would be worthy of discussion.

this is an age-old game, sergio is not the first player to be in this position.

call this alarmist if you want, i call it reading between the lines.

BRANDON ROY GET WELL SOON

by Ben. on Sep 22, 2008 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He is from SPAIN!

He is one of the few Spanish players int he NBA so he gets a lot of attention from Spain. This means that a lot of Spanish media want interviews from him, and Sergio being a nice guy that he is gives it to him. Sergio is just being honest about his situation, and i dont think that we should fault him for being honest. He has still stated thats he is going to do whantever he can to get playing time on this team and help this team any way he can.

by ggassen85 on Sep 22, 2008 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also

Sergio probably doesn’t expect fans in Portland to read his interviews given to Spainish media. It also doesn’t hurt to know that Sergio is a big star in the Canary Islands and Spain so him saying that he will try to get PT somewhere if his gig in Portland doesn’t work out is what they want to hear anyway. Just like Ben wants Sergio to say one thing, Spainish fans what Sergio to say what he said.

Joel Freeland=Stud

by hightide on Sep 22, 2008 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's a narrative important to Blazer fans

Part of your job is to bring us these things (from far and wide). The reaction you’re getting borders absurd.

Ben’s got a point. You may not like it, but it’s clearly there.

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by hobobob on Sep 22, 2008 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

As Ben stated

Like 2 days ago, if this was a fanpost it would be deleted because of repetitiveness (okay, probably not but you get the point).

Joel Freeland=Stud

by hightide on Sep 22, 2008 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Totally agree....

Sergio wants to be play, why is that a bad thing??? The way Ben presents this issue is pretty irresponsible and unfair to Sergio in my opinion….

RUDY > MJ

by myemic23 on Sep 22, 2008 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pretty low blow by Ben on this one

Ben this is pretty shotty journalism (or blogging), this is almost Jay Mariotti low. Most people can’t read in Spanish, so for you to create a post based on one quote from an entire interview and disregard all the other quotes is pretty irresponsible. Most people will read what you wrote and then only believe that Sergio has not intentions of wanting to be in Portland, when that couldn’t be further from the truth. Like my man Krang pointed out Sergio is no dummy and he knows that the odds are against him for having a long term future in Portland. However that doesn’t mean he doesn’t want to succeed here or be here. Let me show you this quote from the same interview when Sergio is asked about Greg Oden:

SR: Greg Oden va a ser un pívot dominante, sobre todo defensivamente, en rebote e intimidación. No creo que vaya a ser muy anotador, al menos al principio, pero lo tiene todo para poder dominar. Entre LaMarcus Aldridge y Oden tenemos un juego interior de muchísimas garantías para los próximos años.

Translation:
Greg Oden will be a dominant center, especially defensively, in blocking and intimidation. I don’t think he’ll be much of a scorer, at least at first, but he has it all the skill to be dominant. Between LMA and Greg Oden WE have an interior game that guaranties US a lot for the UPCOMING YEARS.

Here we have Sergio talking like a member of the Blazers, but also a member that wants to be with the team for awhile. Sergio in other parts goes on to say that his goal for this year is to play more minutes, be more consistent and be an important part of the team. He also states a team goal of making the playoffs. From reading the ENTIRE interview you see that Sergio wants to be part of the Blazers, wants the Blazers to succeed, but also understands that for him personally to succeed in the NBA he might have to go somewhere else. That is why this year is so important for him. I didn’t see anything at all wrong with anything that he said. I think you really stretched it on this one.

by ggassen85 on Sep 22, 2008 11:22 AM PDT reply actions   2 recs

Well

hopefully poeple will read it and make there own opinion on the subject. And thanks for linking it, I wont bother translating it.

by ggassen85 on Sep 22, 2008 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oops, Ben

I think you’ve been busted. But more than anything, I’m struck by the fact that some tame remarks by a 3rd-string point guard are deemed worthy of posting and commenting upon. We all need some real Blazer news—or, better yet, games—to chew on. GAD these dog days are rough!!

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Sep 22, 2008 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

From his comments, I get the feeling Sergio sees Bayless as a SG who can play some point

If Nate shares that vision, Sergio might get some more playing time as the “survivor” of the Green and Jack trades. But somehow I get the feeling that Bayless is penciled in as the #2 PG.

St. Bayno's 120 Haiku Prospects: Nicolas Batum in the paint—prairie grass, blown by wind.

by Norsktroll on Sep 22, 2008 11:24 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Give him his chance in training camp.

If he can’t beat out JB, send him on his way. His trade value will only get worse as the season goes on.

by TallTimber on Sep 22, 2008 11:26 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

What's he complaining about?

I’m sorry, but Sergio is in a very good position to prove that he’s an NBA point guard. Think about it, who’s our starting point guard? Is it Steve Nash? Is it Chris Paul? Some superstar rookie like Derrick Rose or OJ Mayo? No. It’s Steve Blake. That is the bar that Sergio must clear. All he has to do to become a starting point guard in the NBA is be a little bit better than Steve Blake. He and his agent should just sit down, watch some Steve Blake game film and come up with a plan to beat him. If Sergio can’t do that, than frankly I could care less what he does with the rest of his career or where he does it. Seriously. I don’t care how fancy his no look pass was in that one game. If your NBA career falters because Steve Blake is in your way, you’re not worth worrying about.

by Jumbo on Sep 22, 2008 11:35 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

However

Steve Blake has the leg up in many ways… Steve has a 3pt shot, a floor leader, low mistakes PG who is a vet. Sergio’s game isn’t wrong, but Steve’s skill set is/was exactly what Portland needed to help the young guns improve.

Joel Freeland=Stud

by hightide on Sep 22, 2008 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But his point is accurate

If your imaginary ceiling/best case is considered by scouts to be Steve Nash or at least Jason Williams, and you can’t get past Steve Blake, you won’t be that player.

St. Bayno's 120 Haiku Prospects: Nicolas Batum in the paint—prairie grass, blown by wind.

by Norsktroll on Sep 22, 2008 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does sergioFTW

Really need to repost Steve Nash’s rookie stats? Or remind you that Jason Williams played College ball?

But otherwise, point taken. He hasn’t been able to pass Steve Blake, and therefore isn’t a Chris Paul. But that doesn’t mean he can’t be good.

Joel Freeland=Stud

by hightide on Sep 22, 2008 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Steve Nash

Two points on Steve Nash:

1. Dude got traded.
2. Dude still hasn’t won a ring.

by Jumbo on Sep 22, 2008 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That, and

Crosby, Stills, and Young really carried the group.

—Dave

by Dave on Sep 22, 2008 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Amazing.

Simply amazing.

Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.

"I think it’s going to be very beautiful game next year."
-Nicolas Batum

by rockingharder on Sep 22, 2008 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hold on a second. You're may be right Jumbo, but there is even more opportunity than that for Sergio.

We really have only two true point guards on the team and one of them is Sergio. Roy and Rudy are naturally two guards and Jerryd is too …. albeit an undersized one.

There is definitely opportunity here for Sergio to get minutes. Maybe even more so than last year when JJ – another true point guard – was destined to take the back-up point guard minutes.

Maybe someday Bayless will develop into a PG, but right now he is a rookie and is very raw at a position that currently seems to be unnatural for him.

I'm just a modest guy with much to be modest about

by TwoDeep on Sep 22, 2008 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ben... you need help

Nothing more has been added here by your post. Thanks for flat out, going out of your way to bash a player that is merely speaking his mind. I’d be upset if he was happy playing as little as he has the last 2 years. Nate unfairly and unjustly awarded Sergio too small a share of the minutes the last two years. Its pretty simple. In two years he’ll be a better PG than Steve Blake. He should be the guy we keep. If he were given the proper amount of minutes we’d understand his true potential. Instead 95% of his minutes last year came with Jarrett freaking Jack at SG. Thats the exact opposite of a recipe for success. Less than 10% of his minutes last year came with Alridge, and less than 10% of his minutes last year came with Roy. He’s been put in a no-win situation. You have to at least give him a shot out there with a couple of our talented young players before you jettison him aside. He’s deserved that from the start (all time assist pace for half his rookie season).

by as11osu on Sep 22, 2008 11:43 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

You have to take it

No one gives anything when there’s millions of dollars on the line. You take it. Sergio’s not doing that. That’s pretty much the end of it.

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by hobobob on Sep 22, 2008 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

unfairly AND unjustly?

Man, I’d like to know the times when Nate awarded Sergio too few minutes fairly, but unjustly.

Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.

"I think it’s going to be very beautiful game next year."
-Nicolas Batum

by rockingharder on Sep 22, 2008 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You got to remember

Sergio is rather famous in his homeland of Spain, and the common thinking there—regardless of your opinion on the matter—is that Nate is keeping him down and not giving him the PT he deserves. Basically, they think he is getting screwed. In all these interviews the interviewer is coming at him with that opinion and asking him basically to agree with this fans. To me, that he is making a very benign concession to Spanish media is almost entirely insignificant.

My opinion is that Sergio by no means wants a trade right now and is busting his butt to earn a spot playing on this teams—ALL of his actions support this idea, and 99% of these interviews do too. Also, both Mikes have made a point on Courtside to say how hard he has been playing and how much he has improved his shot and size. Sergio is likeed by his teammates,a nd one would assume he likes them back, and this team, we all agree is headed for greatness. Sergio would be a fool to want to leave before he gives it one last try of fitting into our system.

These last too articles really seem like Ben is presenting a narrow view of what is happening to push some weird anti-Sergio agenda. I am honestly worried that such repetition on this theme will make Sergio out to be a villain, which is totaly unjustified.

Free Sergio! http://www.freesergio.com

by sergioFTW on Sep 22, 2008 11:48 AM PDT reply actions   4 recs

Bingo
These last two articles really seem like Ben is presenting a narrow view of what is happening to push some weird anti-Sergio agenda. I am honestly worried that such repetition on this theme will make Sergio out to be a villain, which is totaly unjustified.

That is exactly how I see it.

by as11osu on Sep 22, 2008 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yah, me too.

And why?

I'm just a modest guy with much to be modest about

by TwoDeep on Sep 22, 2008 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What People want Sergio to say

Sergio was speaking to SPANISH MEDIA, not the Oregonian, that makes a big differences. Like sergioFTW said he is a big star, and like a Brandon Roy or LMA, they want him to get every shot at being an all-star.

Spanish people want to hear that Sergio is still trying to do what ever it takes to succeed in the NBA and not pulling a Navarro:

I’ve always wanted to succeed in Portland, although if it’s not possible and in order to play consistently I have to change teams, whatever it takes. I’ll do anything to have success in the league.

In Oregon we want to hear:

I’ve always wanted to succeed in Portland and it’s a great learning experience playing behind consummate professionals like Steve Blake and Brandon Roy. Learning from them is the best way for me to have success in the
league.

But guess what? He wasn’t speaking to TrailBlazer fans, he was talking in Spanish to Spanish fans. He said what they wanted to hear and it may sound a little wrong to us, but it is music to the ears of Spanish fans who are dying to see him get PT. He told them instead of failing on one team and running back to Spain (Navarro), he would stick it out and try to make it in the NBA, even if it took changing teams (but he didn’t give a time line).

Ben, if you keep posting repeated stuff like this BE will slowly turn into Blog-a-Bull!

Joel Freeland=Stud

by hightide on Sep 22, 2008 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is he on a spanish team? Did I miss something or is this guy on the Blazers?

He doesn’t come off that bad. I think there’s a lot of defensiveness here

I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich

by hobobob on Sep 22, 2008 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

???

LMA isn’t on the National Team or even a All-Star, but that doesn’t exclude him from being popular, or does it?

If you don’t that he is popular listen to this John Townsend interview.

Joel Freeland=Stud

by hightide on Sep 22, 2008 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think you missed my point

Why does it matter who he talks to? If we hear it, it matters to us.

If he’s a chamelion and changes with each interview, doesn’t that increase the need for paying attention to each interview instead of lessening it?

I’m saying he’s a Blazer, so it’s news to us. Period.

I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich

by hobobob on Sep 22, 2008 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Have you ever had

Two different groups of friends? Wrote on two different blogs? On two different sport teams? Had a wife and friends? Of course the context matters, and we shouldn’t forget that.

Joel Freeland=Stud

by hightide on Sep 22, 2008 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So, hold on a minute.

It’s okay that Sergio changes his message, depending on the audience?

What does he really believe? I would be more impressed if he had said the same thing to Newspaper Espana as he did to The Big O.

Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.

"I think it’s going to be very beautiful game next year."
-Nicolas Batum

by rockingharder on Sep 22, 2008 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well put

Also Ben has said that this could be a ploy between Sergio and his Agent to get a trade out of Portland, which quite frankly is carzy. If it were truly a ploy to get traed Sergio would be saying these things to the US MEDIA!, not the SPANISH MEDIA!

by ggassen85 on Sep 22, 2008 11:53 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

it's 2008

the world is flat.

BRANDON ROY GET WELL SOON

by Ben. on Sep 22, 2008 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Not a very good response

its 2008, not 1408, if it were 1408 then yes the world would be flat but as we now know the world is actaully round, like a basketball.

by ggassen85 on Sep 22, 2008 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

what?

globalization. global media. thomas friedman. http://www.thomaslfriedman.com/bookshelf/the-world-is-flat

BRANDON ROY GET WELL SOON

by Ben. on Sep 22, 2008 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Sergio Rodriguez ...

gets points in my book for his blunt, straightforward honesty. In light of Rodriguez’s callously tactless, yet refreshingly forthcoming nature, Kevin Pritchard can now truthfully assess what’s in the best interests of both parties. That, all things considered, is most likely a quick-‘n’-dirty deal.

As I’ve mentioned before, Rodriguez could easily flourish in the right situation. Unfortunately, the Blazers are very, very unlikely to that place. On the other hand, though, the New York Knicks and the Golden State Warriors — which’ll both operate fast-paced, run-‘n’-gun offensive systems next season — would be splendid destinations for Rodriguez.

For the Blazers, though, the Warriors are a more practical trading partner than the Knicks; that’s ‘cause Golden State’s third-string point guard, C.J. Watson, is only guaranteed a salary of $100,000 if he’s waived prior to the season. In conjuction with salary filler in Watson, Pritchard should also demand that a 2010 second-round draft pick be included as a return asset.

After ridding of Rodriguez, Pritchard would then be on the lookout for a third-string point guard. Yet, rather than sign a damanged project in Shaun Livingston, he should seek out a wily veteran who can hopefully turn Jerryd Bayless from a me-first, selfish gunner into an actual floor general. A defensive-minded, methodical playmaker like Kevin Ollie would fit the bill.

by AK1984 on Sep 22, 2008 12:04 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL

Seriously, folks, is there any 10th man on anybody’s roster anywhere who stirs up more emotion than Sergio? If this were the WWE even if the guy couldn’t wrestle a bit he would be shooting up the charts right now just because of the crowd reaction and buzz he causes, one way or another. If nothing else keeping his name out there has to better than relative anonymity. I do believe that these interviews are out there for a purpose…maybe not forcing a trade but at least reminding everybody (both in Spain and here) that Sergio is still important. I don’t believe Sergio is saying anything that anybody else wouldn’t be saying to his hometown media folks under the circumstances. Plus frankly I think Sergio has little incentive to keep his mouth shut. It’s not like he has a ton to lose right now.

The relevant quote to me is "I’ll do anything to have success in this league." That’s 100% what I want to hear from Sergio. I would bet it’s what the coaches want to hear as well.

—Dave

by Dave on Sep 22, 2008 12:07 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

To me

The under-appreciated aspect is:

In Spain

Like you know, he was speaking Spanish to a Spanish report who writes for people who live in Spain and eat lots of burritos.

Joel Freeland=Stud

by hightide on Sep 22, 2008 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well that wasn't a racist comment

Spanish people like Sangria and Paeya. Thats is more appropriate

by ggassen85 on Sep 22, 2008 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What?

Mortimer assured me they ate Burritos and Tacos.

Joel Freeland=Stud

by hightide on Sep 22, 2008 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No no, my friend.

Mortimer has been spreading mis-information, such as “Europeans shave regularly and do not smoke tobacco,” and “Europeans do not all wear leather pants and lime-green turtlenecks.”

http://www.myspace.com/y5k

by Y5k on Sep 22, 2008 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also

“European men dont dress up like 15 year old girls”.

by ggassen85 on Sep 22, 2008 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

http://www.myspace.com/y5k

by Y5k on Sep 22, 2008 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does this line of comments make anyone else feel a little uncomfortable?

Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.

"I think it’s going to be very beautiful game next year."
-Nicolas Batum

by rockingharder on Sep 22, 2008 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I've never been to Spain

but I kinda like the music.

Also I’m pretty sure that the cuisine consists of things besides burritos.

If I were Sergio’s agent right now, I’m pretty sure I’d be saying exactly this:

Go out this season, play your game, and do what you do best. That’s all you should worry about right now. If you don’t get a fair chance this year in Portland I’m going to be looking for other opportunities for you. You’re going to have to decide whether you only want to play in the NBA (which may mean re-signing with Portland, trying to make it off the bench with some other team, or even waiting for the phone to ring after your contract expires) or whether you’re willing to consider playing in other leagues. One way or another we can get you on the court somewhere. You just have to decide where. But that’s tomorrow’s issue. Right now just play.

—Dave

by Dave on Sep 22, 2008 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Next year is a team option for Sergio

If the Blazers (or whatever team he would be traded to) wanted to keep him, he would have to wait quite a while for his contract to expire to open up the route back to Spain.

St. Bayno's 120 Haiku Prospects: Nicolas Batum in the paint—prairie grass, blown by wind.

by Norsktroll on Sep 22, 2008 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know

But that doesn’t mean the Blazers will keep him. The idea is to pressure the team into either trading or cutting him, which wouldn’t be that hard if he’s truly no better than an 8-minute player in their eyes. The point being whether Sergio wanted out badly enough to take that route and whether he was willing to risk not being in the NBA at all to make that happen.

—Dave

by Dave on Sep 22, 2008 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

As of noon today, Sergio has completed his last bit of usefulness to the Blazers

Sergio knows that now that Rudy is “in country,” the Blazers no longer need him. So he’s flashing a sign that he’s also ready to part ways.

Sergio’s only value to the Blazers over the last year was showing Rudy that our team isn’t totally driven by winning and business reasons. We could have dumped him last season, but that may have offended Rudy and lessened the chance he would come over. If we canned Sergio, Rudy may have thought, “Oh, I see how they treat players. Keep them around and then dump them when they think they can’t play. And they don’t even give international players a chance at real minutes before they decide to dump them.”

Well, as soon as that flight touched down at PDX this morning, Sergio became obsolete.

He knows that and KP knows that. Sergio and his agent, to their credit, have already started the seperation process by putting out these comments so that the split won’t be so shocking to the ignorant Sergio fans.

The parties involved know this, and you and Ben know this. Now it’s time for the Sergio fans to pluck their heads out of the sand and breath some fresh air.

by Bust a Bucket on Sep 22, 2008 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually I wouldn't say

that he’s not useful. I think he still has a chance, especially since the long-term point guard spot is still up in the air on this team. There are rumors going around that Shaun Livingston will be signed and I’d give Sergio a better chance to make an impact long-term than Livingston.

I root for every Blazer and I am willing to love just about anybody who contributes to wins. Sergio just needs to show that he can do that on a consistent basis. I believe that if he can, he will get his shot at some point. If he can’t it won’t break my heart, but I hope he does. I want his best effort to shine either way, if nothing else so we know.

None of that wanting changes my perception that Sergio’s career is hanging by a thread here.

—Dave

by Dave on Sep 22, 2008 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps he has it in him

But nothing I’ve seen so far indicates that Sergio is capable of being a rotation player in the NBA.

Steve Blake is bigger, stronger, better at defense and a better shooter. Yet people still aren’t convinced that he is capable of leading a true contending team at starting point guard. Sergio may have a better court vision and passing ability, but those skills are not so great that they makes up for all his other deficiencies.

Some point guards develop skills over time but I’m not sure what it is that makes people think Sergio can. To be honest, he looks like an average Joe Six-Pack. Maybe Steve Nash was that way too, but he put in an incredible amount of time and developing his skills (he would dribble tennis balls around campus at Santa Clara between classes… anybody who’s tried knows how hard that is to do… plus Nash actually had a college career where he got to play extended quality minutes in games and really spend time developing before hitting the NBA, where it still took a lot of time and effort to become an All Star).

What makes people think that a Joe Six-Pack with great court vision and decent ball handling skills can develop into an NBA point guard by attending practice and playing 10 minutes a game now and then? Do you think Sergio’s development (or lack thereof) had an impact on KP’s decision not to bring Peteri over this season?

I see Sergio as somebody who was always the best at his position growing during his teenage years so he never really had to push himself beyond that. Then, because of his great promise, he was catapulted straight to the NBA at the age of 19 and relegated to mop up duty on the end of the bench. Two years fly by and he goes from being the best point guard in his age group in Spain to being left off the national team for Bejing.

Maybe they finally realized that a 19 year old average guy point guard (and I’m not talking about Derrick Rose, Russell Westbrook, Jerryd Bayless, or other guys with superior athleticism, shooting skills or some other marketable NBA skill already) can’t develop by attending practice and sitting on the bench.

If that is the case, I’m super glad that they didn’t bring Peteri over this year. Maybe he will have the chance that Sergio never did.

I like Sergio as a hard working honest human being. I just have little faith in him ever amounting to anything in the NBA.

by Bust a Bucket on Sep 22, 2008 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It might be in Sergio's best interest to go play somewhere else for 3-4 years

and put in a ton of effort. Then come back and go for a spot in the NBA.

by Bust a Bucket on Sep 22, 2008 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think you gave the reason

why people still have a lot of faith in Sergio.

Nash had college and pro experience before he got good. Sergio is still very young. So his fans would tell you there’s a lot of time for him to still develop and improve, and that Nash at his age probably wouldn’t have looked much better.

Sergio has great court vision and passing ability. I’m not sure that is something that can be taught or developed.

A guy can learn to shoot. He can learn to be a better defender. There’s no reason Sergio can’t learn those things.

I remain to be convinced that Sergio will learn those things. Dave is right, his chance here hangs by a thread. I don’t think he’s outlived his usefulness because Rudy is here. But if he doesn’t win playing time by the trade deadline, he may be moved, and if he doesn’t do so by the end of the season, he is almost certain to not be back.

The only scenario in which he could be back without getting PT this year: If he shows in practice that he’s taken huge steps forward and is ready to play, and so they feel safe in trading one of the other guards in a blockbuster this summer. But I think our four guards this year, next year, and perhaps for years to come, are likely to be the B & Rs — Blake, Bayless, Roy, & Rudy.

The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.

by jscot on Sep 22, 2008 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

combine the B & Rs with double excitement (E)

and you get BEER … which reminds me, I need another one.

Sorry. I read your post and think I like it, but it’s hard to focus on the screen and keypad right now. Thanks St. Andy.

by Bust a Bucket on Sep 22, 2008 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It sounds to me like

you really DON’T need another one.

The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.

by jscot on Sep 24, 2008 1:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I see nothing wrong with these statements...

Put yourself in his position for a second. He essentially said “I’ll do whatever it takes to succeed in this league, wherever it takes”; if anything that comes across as a positive statement to me and shows that Sergio isn’t content on giving up on the NBA. He could have said a lot of negatives or complained about playing time or whatever, but instead he conveys that he is willing to do whatever it takes to be successful…which is good, espeically since this is a guy that can only be an added bonus for us!

No offense, but this post is nothing more than a case of someone over-analyzing and looking for negatives, when they simply aren’t there.

by LOOSH on Sep 22, 2008 12:13 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

No surprises.

I can’t imagine there’s much surprise on this situation with anyone. We added two guards to the two we had that Mac will start. One, Rudy, outplayed Sergio for a position on the Spanish National Team, and the second, Bayless, is a hard nosed and aggressive kid who doesn’t seem to know the word fear. And no one doubts he can score. Fifth guards never get much time. In fact, 4th guards often don’t get a lot of time. What the Blazers need in the #5 spot is a vet at close to the minimum that can provide some decent injury insurance. Sergio knows this – the Blazers know it. We all know it. Playing time for Sergio comes at the expense of playing time for Rudy/Bayless. There simply isn’t any time. For months now, most of us have expected that Sergio will be the odd man out. Not because he can’t play somewhere – but because he just can’t get minutes here. It’s business – and its reality.

by Eben Calder on Sep 22, 2008 12:35 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

well

Not only did Rudy outplay Sergio, it’s not like it was a competition between the two for the final spot. Rudy was the premier guard on the team, and the Olympics were buzzing about his performance.

Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.

"I think it’s going to be very beautiful game next year."
-Nicolas Batum

by rockingharder on Sep 22, 2008 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's NBDL fodder

    or back to Euro B league. If only he’d
quit crying and put in some work. Scrubs
guards that can’t shoot 60% at the line
need to clam up.

     GO BLAZERS !!!

It's GO time !

by walkoff41 on Sep 22, 2008 1:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Spirited discussion as always concerning our backup PG.

I wish Sergio Rodriguez all the luck in the world. Especially if he’s playing for us. But even if he doesn’t, I like him, and would cheer for him when he came back. I hope he does get the opportunity to make it, but realistically, it wont be with us if that happens. If Bayless is already ahead of him on our depth chart, then it’s going to take major injuries in order to get him on the court for any decent burn. And as much as I would like Sergio to succeed, I’m not willing hope for that, nor should anyone.

I think a trade to a team in desperate need of a point guard would be an ideal situation for Sergio. However, it may not be an ideal situation for the team. Having a capable third string PG who knows the system as insurance is a wise plan. And it is hard to find adequate compensation for him from other teams, even if they are desperate for a PG. I think Portland keeps him because of that.

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by T Darkstar on Sep 22, 2008 8:38 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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