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Adios Sergio

Despite the rosy reports coming from team sources that Sergio has been playing 5 on 5 with his teammates, it appears that, in between throwing spectacular alley-oops to Jerryd Bayless, he is giving an interview to a major Spanish media outlet in which he questions his future with the team...

Here's a link to the original interview.  Here's a link to HoopsHype, which has printed translations to a number of the answers.

The money line is, of course,

Pero si sigo jugando poco está claro que me querría ir.

Which translates to...

But if I continue to play so little, it's clear that I want to leave.

There is now officially zero doubt in my mind that Sergio's wish will come true. Thoughts?

-- Ben (benjamin.golliver@gmail.com)

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In 1 year, Sergio will be...
rolling in Paul Allen's money.
121 votes
on another NBA team's roster.
587 votes
back in Spain.
813 votes

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Wow.

I honestly didn’t see this coming. I thought with Rudy and all it would be buddy-buddy time.

http://www.myspace.com/y5k

by Y5k on Sep 19, 2008 12:03 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Really?

Sergio is a raw talent who needs minutes on the court running the offense to develop. Why would he want to sit on the bench?

by Samuelson on Sep 20, 2008 10:22 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No Surprises

If Sergio can net us a future 1st ala Telfair, I’ll be ecstatic. Frankly if Sergio was cut from the team, I wouldn’t care. He’s a backup PG on a middle of a road team.

BINGO, BANGO, BONGO

by blzrfan on Sep 19, 2008 12:07 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Maybe we can trade him to Miami

for a 1st round pick (’09 unprotected?)

by NWfan on Sep 19, 2008 12:12 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

His value is one second...

………………………………. IF you can find a sucker…

"TominHawaii's real name is Hubert and he's a rancher in Burns."

by timbo on Sep 21, 2008 6:24 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hard to say

He makes some references to Jarrett Jack in the article that Google translator did not really make very clear for me. I am hopefully awaiting the amlmart translation!

That being said, who were the last guys who openly complained to the press about playing time and said that they wanted to be traded? Ruben Patterson and Juan Dixon, right? Pritchard has a pretty clear track record of shipping out guys who have soured on the team. Even though KP seems to really like Sergio, he might be buying his ticket out of town with these kind of statements to the Spanish media.

by abdelnaby on Sep 19, 2008 12:16 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"The bad milk from the others is over."

Well, then everything is fine ;-)

St. Bayno's 120 Haiku Prospects: Nicolas Batum in the paint—prairie grass, blown by wind.

by Norsktroll on Sep 19, 2008 12:34 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The dangers of automatic translation/ literal translation

Let’s slow things down here. The original Marca article is not at all negative. In fact, Sergio talks about how much he likes the city, the people, etc. He even talks about how hard he worked over the summer, an effort that, according to him, has proven effective in improving his shooting.

Here are a couple of quick translations that reflect the word AND the spirit of the converstion. I am, I believe, uniquely qualified for this: though I was born in Portland, I have spent half of my life in Spain. I currently teach Contemporary Spanish Literature at the University of Sevilla, Spain.

Taken from the original article:

Q: “Sometimes I get the impression that the fans have forgotten you, that they have lost all respect for your game.”

A: “I know there are a lot of fans that support me, people that like me. And I want to play as best as I can for them. As for everyone else, I’m not at all bothered by their opinions. I don’t pay much attention to them. There are a lot of people that follow my game and that help me feel capable of improving, but they don’t make as much noise as the others. The bad intentions [the correct translation of "mala leche” in this context] of those that attack me are just a lot louder.

As an answer to the prior question, Sergio says:

“I love the city, I have adapted to life here and I now have a lots of friends. Portland is a great city. But if I were to continue playing so few minutes, I would obviously have to look for a new team.”

by klemente on Sep 19, 2008 2:55 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   4 recs

+1

Yeah, even from skipping through the very poor automatic translation you could get the feeling that the only “negative” thing he said in that interview was he wanted a bigger role/more minutes, and otherwise liked his situation in Portland going into the next year better than last season.

What you and Dunemonkey below posted as the correct translation confirms this.

St. Bayno's 120 Haiku Prospects: Nicolas Batum in the paint—prairie grass, blown by wind.

by Norsktroll on Sep 19, 2008 3:54 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

au revoir, Serg...

no way does he stay unless Blake or Bayless gets hurt.

"When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car"

by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Sep 19, 2008 12:16 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In 1 year

   Sergio knows the situation here is tough for him. That’s reality. But the wheel is still in spin, so to speak. He’s a long shot to carve out a longterm role on this team. But I’ve followed basketball for a long time and sometimes, often actually, the unexpected can happen. If we keep Sergio this season I’m almost 100% sure that at some point he will be given a chance, through injury to others or random circumstance. At that point to use another cliche, it would be up to Sergio to seize the day. If he is unable, or unwilling then indeed it will be Adios Sergio, BUT I don’t think he’d be on the roster right now if The Blazers had already given up on him. In 1 year the speculation of now will be all past tense, and we will simply know….but I have enough respect for the flashes of talent that Sergio did demonstrate to not necessarily count him out yet.

"Mother Nature started this fight, I think it's about time we ended it!"

by Krang on Sep 19, 2008 12:24 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I dont see why this is such a surprise?

If you were a 21 or 22 year old playing in the NBA and you thought you were capable of doing great things would you want to be stuck at the end of the bench? Sergio will probably be traded to another NBA team were he will play well. I think he can be a good player in this league, he just needs playing time and to be in the right situation. I dont think portland at this time is the right situation. Its hard to accomplish anything when you are getting less then 5 minutes a game.

by ggassen85 on Sep 19, 2008 12:25 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sergio should

show us the same level of commitment as the other players on the roster. Everybody seems so intent on working on their game. I don’t hear those stories about Sergio. Playing is one thing, but the team practices alot more than it plays. If he was showing he can D up and run the offense in practice, he would find time in real games.

It's officially been coined: "Decade of Dominance" (D.O.D.)

by LaoTzu on Sep 19, 2008 1:07 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wait a minute

you must have not remembered when Sergio held the record for most workouts at the practice facility and Greg’s goal was to get more workouts then him. Or when the shooting coach flew over to spain for the summer to help Sergio reconstruct his shot.

by Philthyanimal on Sep 20, 2008 5:44 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I've never heard of that record thing...

but I’m sure you might be saying something truthful…

Workouts are great and all, but I can work out 12 hours a day and it won’t make me a good player.

Sergio needs to show some stuff when he’s in a game. And don’t complain about minutes. If you do good things in the limited minutes you get, then the coach will have to keep you in and play you longer. If you go out there, brick a couple threes and play shoddy defense, then you won’t get to stay in very long.

by Bust a Bucket on Sep 20, 2008 7:14 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I remember the workout thing.

I don’t know if it’s a matter of Sergio not working hard. He certainly does not possess the same sort of athleticism as Bayless, nor the same experience as Blake. The second year is natoriously hard for players. The fact that Sergio’s numbers were down his second year is probably a bit of a fluke. I’m not saying he will ever be amazing, but I imagine his ceiling is still higher than where Blake is at.

If somebody hits you with an object you should beat the hell out of them.-Charles Barkley

by Winchester on Sep 20, 2008 10:10 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hmm

i wasnt trying to point out that lifting would make you a great player. i made the comment to point out that he is committed to success. one of sergios biggest knocks was that he lacked size, so obviously he was working on that throughout the course of the year. some people learn or improve at different rates, but you cant question his work ethic. remember last year when Trout showed to camp out of shape? i’m sure less people got on Trouts case for that then Sergio’s lack of “commitment.”

http://blog.oregonlive.com/blazers/2008/02/oden_will_outlift_sergio.html

by Philthyanimal on Sep 21, 2008 12:23 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I still give Travis flak for coming to camp like that

Ok, Sergio works out more. But he’s gotta do something in a game.

by Bust a Bucket on Sep 21, 2008 12:31 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

some players

some players game needs rhythm to establish. much like a bruising running back needs a ton of carries to wear down defenders before he can pile on the yards. what if all sergio needs is consistent playing time to break down defenders and establish a rapport with his teammates?

thats kind of flakey when you come down on sergio for not having a good work ethic when in fact he has one of the best on the team. however when you are proven otherwise you change the subject.

by Philthyanimal on Sep 21, 2008 5:55 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I guess we should have traded him for Brett Favre

or to some team that needs a bruiser.

No, but to be serious for the first time, I get the whole rhythm argument. Sometimes you have to wait for your chance (like when people get injured) unfortunately. That’s the reality of pro sports and even college sports (who knew that Darron Thomas could throw for 3 TDs in one quarter… we would have never known if 3 other guys ahead of him didn’t get axed).

Sometimes that chance never comes and it isn’t exactly fair. I get that.

But there’s a lot of stuff going on in training camp and practices that we don’t see and if Sergio can’t get in a rhythm in practice that makes Nate want him to play 20+ minutes a game, then maybe he never will be good.

I like Sergios work ethic, so I have to change the subject to something else that helps me win the argument. Sorry, but if I can’t win on work ethic, then I’m going to attack on some other theory. “It’s all politics” as somebody very wise once said.

Overall, I think we need to be patient still, since he’s only been in the league two years. I would like to retract my comments in this trade that says we should can Sergio asap. But I do not want to retract my reasoning behind them.

by Bust a Bucket on Sep 21, 2008 6:19 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

fair enough

i figure if everyone has as much trust as they say they do in KP…then we should trust his assessment of sergio as well. the man hasnt failed us this far. there were people who were ready to give up on trout as he has had ample time to show his true colors, yet kp stuck behind his guns and didnt trade him when he could have. i trust he knows what he is doing with sergio as well.

by Philthyanimal on Sep 21, 2008 6:26 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is this the same article Amlmart had translated for the Junk Drawer?

Didn’t get this impression there.

St. Bayno's 120 Haiku Prospects: Nicolas Batum in the paint—prairie grass, blown by wind.

by Norsktroll on Sep 19, 2008 12:26 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah that's what I thought. It seemed like he was saying the same type of stuff Outlaw says.

I don’t want to be bottled up on the bench. I want to get out there and play minutes. If not, maybe this isn’t the right place for me.

"I think that the team that wins game five will win the series. Unless we lose game five."
Who else? Charles Barkley

by prezofdeath on Sep 19, 2008 12:28 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Same Mag (Marca)

I suspect the time of the interview may be the same or at least done before Sergio returned to Portland.

"You better come harder than that, little man, your makin' me laugh" G.O.

by BlueBooYay on Sep 19, 2008 12:35 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I read the original article

and it definitely has a different tone. It seems as though Sergio is happy with the city, the franchise and has adapted completely to the lifestyle. He is satisfied with the progress he has made this summer with his shooting, among other things. He knows that Portland still hasn’t given up on him, due to the recent trading of Jack (in which Jack was getting a lot more minutes than him). He just wants to be given the chance and if not, of course he would look to move somewhere else. There’s nothing too big about the last statement.

Beaver believer!

by mannyfresh1 on Sep 19, 2008 12:49 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks for the clarification

Sergio would seem to be the odd man out now. But there are still games to be played. If Blake or Bayless struggle or get injured, and Sergio comes in and shows improvement over last season, then things could turn around for him. Let’s remember, this is still a very young kid.

Having said all that, when forced to guess where Sergio will be next season, my vote was “back in Spain.”

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Sep 19, 2008 1:39 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Unfortunate

In 2 years he’ll be easily better than Blake. We’ll find out this year if Nate and KP are capable of foresight at the PG position.

by as11osu on Sep 19, 2008 12:31 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Unlike Sergio Rodriguez, Steve Blake is a ...

team-oriented playmaker, proficient long-range shooter, and rugged perimeter defender who plays within himself.

Blake, in comparison to Rodriguez, will always be more well-adjusted to the NBA’s domestic style of play.

by AK1984 on Sep 19, 2008 12:50 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

Yeah, that's a fair point.

Sergio certainly dishes out dimes at a rapid pace.

It’s just that, well, Steve Blake is more keen regarding the offensive flow.

by AK1984 on Sep 19, 2008 1:11 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A simple trade ...

like this makes sense for both teams.

FROM GOLDEN STATE
PG C.J. Watson
2010 Second-Round Draft Pick

FROM PORTLAND & TO GOLDEN STATE
PG Sergio Rodriguez

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=32773025&teams=229&te=&cash=

Watson, who’s contract is only partially guaranteed for $100,000 this season, would be waived after the deal.

Anyhow, Rodriguez will most likely return to Europe after this season. I can’t blame him, either, for that’d be the most practical career move for him.

by AK1984 on Sep 19, 2008 12:45 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Or this...

FROM ANY TEAM IN THE NBA
A Second-Round Draft Pick in any year

FROM PORTLAND TO THAT TEAM
PG Sergio “El Clanko” Rodriguez

"TominHawaii's real name is Hubert and he's a rancher in Burns."

by timbo on Sep 21, 2008 6:27 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

KP will look

for more than a 2nd rounder. It costs nothing to keep Sergio right now. Well, at least he’ll be looking for a very high 2nd round pick. Those are good for stashing Euros.

I’m kind of expecting a 2nd rounder + Sergio for a first rounder.

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The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.

by jscot on Sep 22, 2008 12:40 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i love how when sergio openly says he wants more minutes or he's leaving people hate on him and suggest trades

but when Outlaw says he wants more than twenty shots a game and to be a starter that just shows his drive to be better. hmmm….

by Zaron5551 on Sep 19, 2008 12:49 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Indeed

Part of the Sergio package has to be a nose-to-the-grindstone, “I’m gonna take what I want” attitude. His comments here could be indicative of that. The pitfall would come if he had the desire for the minutes without that same drive. That would mean a quick end to his Blazer career.

—Dave

by Dave on Sep 19, 2008 12:54 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hear you

the difference in response comes from two things, I think…

there’s a difference between asking for more minutes/shots and “gve me more shots or it’s clear I’d like to leave.”

there’s an even bigger difference between your 4th quarter go to player talking and your 3rd (4th?) string point guard talking.

sergio comes off like he’s giving an ultimatum and he is pretty the exactly last person on the team who should be doing that.

BRANDON ROY GET WELL SOON

by Ben. on Sep 19, 2008 1:04 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

Ultimatum? Really?

I didn’t hear him demand anything. He said he would simply prefer going to a team that has a spot in the rotation if he can’t get any time here. Are you really trying to blame a guy for wanting to have a chance to play? I am pretty sure any player that is glued to the bench and feels like they can help a team win games would feel the same way. I guess I just don’t see your motive in attempting to make Sergio look bad. If I am misunderstanding you, I apologize. He isn’t going to get in the way of your boy Bayless, so I don’t understand why you want to see him gone so bad???

RUDY > MJ

by myemic23 on Sep 19, 2008 3:41 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

who said i want him gone?

i don’t necessarily think he adds much to this team but it’s not like i want him gone. i just think the writing is all over the wall on this one…

he’s putting forward a delicate ultimatum, but it is one nonetheless: he wants to play here or he wants to play somewhere else. that is his right as a player, i would never begrudge any player that right.

but let’s put that stance in the context of this team… sergio needs to know his role. 3rd string point guards don’t get to put forward ultimatums. the last thing a 3rd string point guard should ever say in the media is, “play me!” that’s now how it works. the role of a 3rd string point guard on a championship team (that’s what we aspire to, right?) is to unanimously praise his teammates, to put the team before himself in every way, to speak in glowing terms about the people above him on the depth chart, to cheer his teammates on from the sideline and to work quietly every single day to EARN more minutes so that he is ready should he be called upon.

sergio is doing the things that a disgruntled player that wants a change of scenery does: pay lip service to his current franchise/town, engage in long discussions over playing time with his coach, complain to a sympathetic media (spain) for more minutes, hint at negative feelings he has over whether the team respects him and his abilities, and make statements that could be perceived as slights toward his teammates.

i’m judging sergio on his actions and statements. i think it’s sergio that’s making himself look bad, not me.

and you’re right: sergio isn’t touching bayless.

BRANDON ROY GET WELL SOON

by Ben. on Sep 19, 2008 4:18 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Isn't Sergio a little too young and talented for settling into the role of a third string point guard?

Don’t get me wrong, I agree with your assessment and outlook for him. I said months ago that’s the role he has right now. And while I think it’s good that he is not satisfied with this situation at all, it in turn leads me to believe that he will be gone from Portland in a year or latest in two when his contract is up if nothing miraculous happens. In whatever direction.

St. Bayno's 120 Haiku Prospects: Nicolas Batum in the paint—prairie grass, blown by wind.

by Norsktroll on Sep 19, 2008 4:32 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that's definitely the difference of opinion

we know how sergio and his agent would answer that question. and the answer doesn’t start with, “i’m willing to take on any role that helps this team win a title…”

we know how nate answered the question of upping sergio’s 2nd half minutes last season: with a smirk and a shake of his head.

is he too young to settle? probably.
is he too talented? i guess that depends on how you evaluate sergio’s talents. at this point, i think 3rd string point guard is about right. if his perceived value was as a true backup (#2), he would have already been traded. we have no real use for him.

if he’s not content as a 3rd string guard here, and nobody wants to make him a #2, then i think the logical move is becoming a #1 in spain. and i think that’s how it will play out.

BRANDON ROY GET WELL SOON

by Ben. on Sep 19, 2008 4:48 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ben=JerrydFTW

You’ve been dissing Sergio since summer league. I bet Sergio thinks that by trading Jack that Sergio is now the second string point guard and Bayless is just a rookie. Most people don’t think Sergio said anything wrong or that inflamitory.

I have no idea what will happen and I look forward to watching it all play out. It just sounds like since you went to summer league, that you only say negative stuff about Sergio, and I get the impression that you want him gone as soon as possible.

The Josh abides.

by tominhawaii on Sep 19, 2008 5:51 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Me=SergioFTW

had to represent, tom. thanks for making this point.

Free Sergio! http://www.freesergio.com

by sergioFTW on Sep 19, 2008 9:46 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks

I’m glad that of all people, that you knew what I was talking about. You are tenacious.

The Josh abides.

by tominhawaii on Sep 20, 2008 2:29 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ok...

Maybe you didn’t say you want him gone, but when you are referring to him as a “lame duck” and a “dead man walking”, its pretty easy to make that inference. I guess I still don’t understand your point of view completely. When you say he is “paying lip service to his current franchise/town”, what are you speaking of? I didn’t read anything in this article that was negative towards the franchise, actually I saw this quote: “I’m happy with the city, adapting to the team, I have friends…I like Portland a lot”…

When you say he “engage’s in long discussions over playing time with his coach”, what are you referring to? I remember he had really long exit interview, but if I remember correctly, that was because the list of things that Sergio needed to work on was very, very long. But even if he is guilty and I missed it, is having discussions with your coach about your current role really a bad thing??? Should he just pretend to be satisfied even if he is not?
 
When you say he is “complaining to a sympathetic media(Spain) for more minutes”, do you really think that is the appropriate way to characterize these interviews. I mean, it is his home country and where he lives in the offseason, the fact they are sympathetic probably had nothing to do with Sergio doing interviews with Spanish media outlets. And don’t you want your bench warmer to desire more playing time? I would be worried if an improving 21 year old player was satisfied rotting away on the bench. I still don’t see how this is a negative reflection upon Sergio.

And finally, he “hints at negative feelings he has over whether the team respects him and his abilities, and makes statements that could be perceived as slights towards his teammates”. Again, the only thing he has said that could even be close to perceived as negative towards the franchise was when he was interviewed earlier this summer and noted that the front office type people tell him one thing, and Nate tells him another in regards to his role on the team. Not exactly Darius-esque ripping on P-town if you ask me. As for the slighting his teammates thing, I have no clue what you are talking about. Anyone that talks about Sergio always says how much he is liked by his teammates and around the organization. If I missed something where he rips a teammate, please inform me.

I guess we just see Sergio’s actions completely differently, which is ok. I guess if you see Sergio’s comments the way that you do, you could say he is making himself look bad, but I disagree. I think he is being somewhat candid about his playing time, and people are turning it into something its not. As Casey said in the Outlaw controversy thread, this is why players are so reluctant to say anything in the first place, I guess Sergio needs to learn that lesson…

RUDY > MJ

by myemic23 on Sep 19, 2008 5:14 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

by titling this "Adios Sergio"

Adios, as far as I know, means goodbye. So you titled this goodbye Sergio seems a pretty strong push in the “gone” direction

by Zaron5551 on Sep 19, 2008 6:50 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

SERGIO said goodbye

This is about his comments. He was saying “goodbye” if he doesn’t get more playing time. Hence, Adios Sergio.

by Bust a Bucket on Sep 21, 2008 12:32 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

great point

its kind of crazy how much of a double standard there is between the two.

by Philthyanimal on Sep 20, 2008 5:47 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

awesome

thank you! a rec for your efforts…

Those are things they say, there never going to put anything bad on there…Look, it’s what we’ve said before: from what they say now to what happens in the season will be a world. It’s true that I’m stronger, have improved my shot, because I’ve worked a lot in the summer. I’m happy about how I’ve taken advantage of it (The offseason, I assume).

wow. just, wow.

BRANDON ROY GET WELL SOON

by Ben. on Sep 19, 2008 1:07 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Very good translation

Your format is very useful for us folks trying to scrape the rust off our Spanish skills.

by southern oregon on Sep 19, 2008 1:30 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You are the bestest lurker ever.

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Who else? Charles Barkley

by prezofdeath on Sep 19, 2008 4:15 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

First Comment Goes Green!

Whoa, Baby! That’s like hitting one outta the Park, first at bat.

"You better come harder than that, little man, your makin' me laugh" G.O.

by BlueBooYay on Sep 19, 2008 4:39 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Outstanding translation.

"TominHawaii's real name is Hubert and he's a rancher in Burns."

by timbo on Sep 21, 2008 6:42 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I feel I need to qualify my vote

I voted for the Serg to go back to Europe as that’s a place for a sweet-passing, poor-shooting, no-defense-playing guard to make a good living.
However, I voted based on last year’s performance. If Serg’s shot is better and he improves his defense and waits for screens to be set on the offensive end, I would vote to keep him.
There ya’ go. I didn’t mean to hate on Serg with my vote. I’d be stoked if he turned it around this year.

by Montavilla Steve on Sep 19, 2008 1:04 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sergio and Travis

Are both one demensional players and unless they improve the multiple and glaring holes in their games[there is this new thing called defense,maybe you have heard about]ect they arent good enough to start for a lousy NBA team.Can you picture a coach preparing an offensive game plan against a team that had these guys in the starting lineup?

by southern oregon on Sep 19, 2008 1:06 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think Sergio is going to be a much improved player this year...

I am not sure he cracks the rotation, but if he shows a decent amount of improvement to the coaches during practices and workouts, I think it would be smart to see him play out his rookie contract and then see where he is at as a player. He is still very young and has a lot of potential. I see no reason to trade him for a 2nd round pick that likely wouldn’t ever see the floor, let alone have a chance to make an impact like Sergio could he improves some of his weakness’s…

RUDY > MJ

by myemic23 on Sep 19, 2008 1:09 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Another log on the Bayless motivational fire

Q: “How is Jarryd Bayless?”

Sergio: “…Brandon Roy, but with less talent.”


———————————Say what?!

"Screw the chalupa – it’s the victory I want." --timg56

by MiledAnimal on Sep 19, 2008 1:57 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

HAHA I was gonna quote that

He is gonna tatoo that mirror image on his forhead and look at it every morning to make sure he works super hard

either that or He will murder Roy.

Sophia LOL

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1881
The wild hawk stood with the down on his beak And stared with his foot on the prey. - Lord Alfred Tennyson

by BlazerFan1 on Sep 19, 2008 2:03 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bayless will eat Sergio alive...

More support for Bayless from another CC grad.

G.O. Blazers

by Hookah_John on Sep 19, 2008 2:50 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Heeeyyy!

:) Hold on, what year were you?

"Thank God those nightmarish booty-less days are behind us. I blame cocaine."-Mortimer
I detest that man who hides one thing in the depths of his heart, and speaks for another. - Homer
That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
1881
The wild hawk stood with the down on his beak And stared with his foot on the prey. - Lord Alfred Tennyson

by BlazerFan1 on Sep 19, 2008 3:25 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The only way Sergio gets around Bayless is if Rex blows a knee...

"TominHawaii's real name is Hubert and he's a rancher in Burns."

by timbo on Sep 21, 2008 6:46 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sergio = John Stockton with less talent.

"TominHawaii's real name is Hubert and he's a rancher in Burns."

by timbo on Sep 21, 2008 6:47 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so much murder talk

First it’s Rudy, then it’s Roy.

Bayless will get his starting job one way or another. Unless the authorities get him first.

by BlazerD on Sep 19, 2008 5:43 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sergio

Is waking up with a bull’s severed head in his bed tomorrow morning.

Bayless won’t take this insult without decapitating SOMETHING.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Sep 19, 2008 2:03 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

LOL

BRANDON ROY GET WELL SOON

by Ben. on Sep 19, 2008 2:12 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

gotta say that was a pretty bold thing for Sergio to say

I suppose he didn’t even think about it, tough. Or maybe he did. Could be an inside joke or something.

You’d think that unless it was an inside joke Sergio would be careful saying stuff like that. Well it doesn’t really matter because Sergio will be riding the pine while Bayless is dazzling the league on the court this year, on his way to ROY.

Winning is everything.

by MT Suit on Sep 19, 2008 2:23 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bayless doesn't seem like the type that goes for inside jokes

I can very easily see Bayless reacting like this (not work friendly).

by Furious Styles on Sep 19, 2008 2:49 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not in his first years

But that should be kinda like his goal, right? To become as good or better than Roy, Arenas, Ellis, whoever.

St. Bayno's 120 Haiku Prospects: Nicolas Batum in the paint—prairie grass, blown by wind.

by Norsktroll on Sep 20, 2008 1:23 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't give a poo about his goals

I just know that comparing someone to Roy is a compliment no matter how it is worded.

The Josh abides.

by tominhawaii on Sep 20, 2008 2:30 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You are like Brandon Roy, but with less money.

You’re welcome.

"Screw the chalupa – it’s the victory I want." --timg56

by MiledAnimal on Sep 21, 2008 10:48 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

haha, but he has more mai ties and pinapples

so that sort of makes up for the money discrepancy.

by Bust a Bucket on Sep 21, 2008 1:55 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can see how I would be compared to Roy

Basically MiledAnimal is saying I’m the Brandon Roy of Blazers Edge. I have a smooth game and I’m a procrastinator.

Blazers Edge has an alarmist vision

by tominhawaii on Sep 21, 2008 3:22 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i don't get it

That Brandon Roy’s brother’s learning was artificially procrastinated because of a disability?

by Bust a Bucket on Sep 21, 2008 3:51 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I speak Poorly of Sergio often

HOWEVER, I really do think he could be a good NBA point guard— as long as he really, truly, motivatedly works on the parts of his game he is downright AWFUL at.

Being an amazing passer and playmaker is awesome, but not if you can’t shoot or play defense to save your life. Jason Kidd can’t shoot, but he is/was an amazing playmaker who played All-NBA defense. Steve Nash can’t play defense, but he’s a terrific shooter to go along with top o’ the NBA playmaking ability. Sergio just has the playmaking portion down.

Also, aside from the pick n’ roll we cram down people’s throats (and for good reason: it always works), Sergio hasn’t seemed capable of running a real offense. He creates and gets a lotta assists, but it’s always feast or famine with him. He needs to know how to find that happy medium and not rely on only being successful when running.

He IS very young though, and he still has a lot of potential. I see a real true NBA PG there, but if he still isn’t at least mediocre at shooting and defense, he’s just a bench player.

Sergio is in a tough situation, but a trade could liven his life up. He will have to improve exponentially to be at Rudy and Bayless’ level, what with the roles they’re gonna play and the talent level we know they got. Sergio COULD improve by leaps and bounds and still not be good enough for THIS team— but it’d be good enough for a team like Minny, Miami, Golden State, take your pick.

I talk a lot of [stuff] about ol’ Sergio, and that is more out of compensating for the blind love he would receive while not really being all that good. I was on the Jack side of that duel, that’s for sure. I imagine I will want as many minutes as possible to go to Bayless and Rudy, and not any “wasted” on guys I can’t imagine us keeping for much longer.

We don’t need anyone to sop up minutes when we have such a scarcity of them around.

Of course, we don’t want to give him away. Sergio still has good value. I’d hate to do a minor salary dump of his marginal salary and only get a 2nd round pick outta him— he isn’t worth much to us but for another team he could capture the fanbases’ imagination like he did for us. Help be their rebound relationship as they rebuild from a crappy team to mediocre. Teach them to love again, like he did for us.

Sergio will always get more attention than he deserves for his flashy play and exoticness, so I wouldn’t mind less focus on the kid. We got more important matters at hand than wondering why a (at BEST right now) 3rd string PG isn’t getting more than 8 minutes a game.

I don’t blame him for wanting to be elsewhere if he doesn’t play. This IS his career, and as long as he isn’t thinking he deserves the minutes when he clearly doesn’t, I can’t be mad at him for this quote. Why should we? Any one of us would think and feel and say the same thing, if we were an early 20’s young raw PG who could use some minutes.

If Sergio still has a disconnect from the real reasons he ain’t playing and what he needs to improve on, he’ll never become good enough for anyone and would go back to Mexico. I doubt he’s that dumb though, and if he really wants to be in the NBA he’ll work to improve.

If he wants to be a big fish in a small pond and doesn’t want the challenge of being in the NBA, he can coast a bit and just head back to Eurolandia and be mediocre forever and just have fun.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Sep 19, 2008 2:02 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   3 recs

Gawd Mort harsh harsh harsh

But frankly I believe its true.

I dont think that he is gonna get more minutes on another team- the requirements of an NBA pg are ever changing and frankly, 6 foot 3 bean poles w/ cool tricks a flat shot and propensity to dribble 800 times too many is not gonna cut it. He has major work to do and untill I see serious improvement Im staying away from the Sergio bandwagon.

Sophia

"Thank God those nightmarish booty-less days are behind us. I blame cocaine."-Mortimer
I detest that man who hides one thing in the depths of his heart, and speaks for another. - Homer
That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
1881
The wild hawk stood with the down on his beak And stared with his foot on the prey. - Lord Alfred Tennyson

by BlazerFan1 on Sep 19, 2008 2:06 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"...and would go back to Mexico"

How unMortlike of you!

"Screw the chalupa – it’s the victory I want." --timg56

by MiledAnimal on Sep 19, 2008 2:36 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Whatcha mean?

That’s our Mortimer at his satiric finest. We’re Americans! We don’t know one continent from another.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Sep 19, 2008 3:53 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LOL

A few years ago, the BBC had a report that said Mexico was part of the U.S.

The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.

by jscot on Sep 20, 2008 9:48 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It will be

Time is on our side as these Englishmen agree.

"You better come harder than that, little man, your makin' me laugh" G.O.

by BlueBooYay on Sep 20, 2008 12:26 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sergio needs to play for D'Antoni

Sergio is not a Nate McMillian point guard. KP and the scouts may like his skills, but once Nate and the coaches got him on the practice floor it was probably like oil and water, style-of-play wise.

So where would Rodriguez fit in best? With a run and shoot offense like D’Antoni used to run in Phoenix and (presumably) will attempt to run in the Big Apple. Why not deal Serg to NY in a package for (say) David Lee?

by two4larue on Sep 19, 2008 3:03 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Plus, Sergio would be united with his fellow Italian

Sorry—poor Mort imitation there.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Sep 19, 2008 3:54 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I wouldn't have called him on it

except I’m annoyed that he hasn’t responded to my comment in the JD Europaaaa thread to him that the folks at Blog-a-Bull were disrespecting him and us (see the “What would you give Derrick Rose for” fanpost).

"Screw the chalupa – it’s the victory I want." --timg56

by MiledAnimal on Sep 19, 2008 4:56 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Man, you called me out!

I dunno what I said wrong, I’ve done the Sergio = Mexican joke way too many times. I’m following the comedic law of 1,000,000s, where you repeat something ad nauseum until the memory of it ever being funny has long past into the whispers of time.

I didn’t originally see your comment that I hadn’t responded to yet, but I just found it— sometimes new posts don’t show up new, and I dunno why. I followed the link, and I don’t think they were TOO harsh on me or any of us. In fact, the fact they would trade for me is a compliment I’d say!

They’ve been much meaner to us homery Blazer fans, in my experience over there.

During practice at times, tacos could be smelled on Sergio’s breath and he would claim it was just coming out of his pores from having taco parties the night before.

Rudy was supposed to fly in today, but KP actually had to pick him up in front of the Home Depot and bring him to the practice facility for the press conference.

See? Spain = Mexico = COMEDIC GOLD MINED FROM A CAVE WHICH WILL NEVER RUN DRY.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Sep 22, 2008 10:33 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sorry Mort, I don't recall seeing

your Sergio = Mexican joke before. Not too surprised — as much time as I spend on BE, I still don’t read everything. I never should have doubted you!

Yeah, the Blog-a-Bull gauntlet was thrown in fun. I really was just trying to call your attention to it. I subsequently noticed you’ve conveniently provided an email address on your profile page.

"Personally, I'd rather give an elephant a prostate exam on Chili Day." --Dave on rooting for the Lakers or Celtics

by MiledAnimal on Sep 22, 2008 12:06 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, uh, ...

what’s with the homeristic overvaluing of Segio Rodriguez and disrespectful undervaluing David Lee?

That’s bewildering stuff.

As an objective observer, here’s a realistic trade proposal wherein Rodriguez is dealt to the New York Knicks.

FROM NEW YORK & TO PORTLAND
PG Mardy Collins ($1,034,760)
Cash Considerations ($3,000,000)

FROM PORTLAND & TO NEW YORK
PG Sergio Rodriguez ($874,000)

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=29973025&teams=2218&te=&cash=22:18

That’s a fair and balanced deal in which one bust is dealt for another bust.

Neither Collins nor Rodriguez will be in the NBA come 2010, either, and y’all can take that to the bank.

by AK1984 on Sep 19, 2008 5:28 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did you rad the word "package"

Nowhere in that trade proposal did I intend to imply a straight-up deal

Sergio would be a fit with D’Antoni’s system

The Blazers have had interest in Lee, but Isiah wouldn’t let him go…but the Knick’s regime has changed

I’m not going to try and match salaries and sweeten Portland’s side of the deal—that’s KP’s job

by two4larue on Sep 19, 2008 6:36 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know

This a mean and ornery thing to say but I hope Nate has a Bayless on Sergio squad penciled in for training camp

by southern oregon on Sep 19, 2008 2:08 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You know it

"Thank God those nightmarish booty-less days are behind us. I blame cocaine."-Mortimer
I detest that man who hides one thing in the depths of his heart, and speaks for another. - Homer
That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
1881
The wild hawk stood with the down on his beak And stared with his foot on the prey. - Lord Alfred Tennyson

by BlazerFan1 on Sep 19, 2008 2:09 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The next alley-oop pass might fly just a little too high

St. Bayno's 120 Haiku Prospects: Nicolas Batum in the paint—prairie grass, blown by wind.

by Norsktroll on Sep 19, 2008 2:18 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rudy will be good for him

A lot has been said that Sergio will ease Rudy’s transistion (which it will), but I think it will bring an additional comfort level to Sergio. I’d see the second unit as Sergio (PG), Jerryd (SG), Rudy (SF), Outlaw (PF), and Joel (Center). He could have a lot of fun distributing to that crew.

"You know when to say 'Yes', you know when to say 'No', everyone goes home in a limousine." - 'Fast' Eddie Felson

by TP for 3 on Sep 19, 2008 2:19 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Call them the "Ashley Whippets"

after the old frisbee-catching dog

That second unit you mentioned would be rail-thin (except for Prz) and get mashed on the boards

but they’d be fun to watch, just like ol’ Ashley

by two4larue on Sep 19, 2008 3:33 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I've been thinking this too

I call it the White Hot Unit. They could play maybe 8-10 minutes a game and come in rip-roaring and running and obliterate other teams second units. Nate showed last season that he isn’t afraid of going small and running a three-guard set, and Sergio would thrive with THREE big scorers and shooters in with him. That situation calls for Sergio’s skills, and makes his offensive weakness almost trivial. I could see that unit fast breaking on every defensive rebound and blocked shot.

Free Sergio! http://www.freesergio.com

by sergioFTW on Sep 19, 2008 9:43 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I sure hope Iberian Airlines

doesn’t go backrupt before next summer. Sergio could be lookin’ for a lift.

by Bust a Bucket on Sep 19, 2008 2:53 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This will make a lot of people happy

I don’t know if I am one of them.

BEdgers

by Sabonis4Ever on Sep 19, 2008 3:45 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lame article

On yahoo sports that Miles signed with Boston last month[the same way Hill is signed with us] and suspension bla bla woof woof.And how about the Wade to NY,in return Miami would agree to build a toxic waste dump rumors.Then swindeling Miami out of the #1 lottery pick 2 years=Ricky

by southern oregon on Sep 19, 2008 4:36 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Seems like another Juan Carlos Navarro situation

He’s not going to get minutes and Portland, and unless someone wants to take a flyer on him — Washington, maybe? — he’s going to get more money and more burn in Europe.

by Ben Q Rock on Sep 19, 2008 5:20 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Please watch the title

I gotta say Ben, my heart sank when I first read that thinking that Sergio was already traded. I don’t even think it was that bad of an interview after the translation, and nothing to point to the fact that he’s leaving. In fact, even before this it was painfully obvious that this is a sink or swim year for him. But the title coming from our Blazers insider was misleading to say the least and the quote that was the main body of the lead in to the thread was taken out of context of the rest of the article. I realize it must be tough when the article is in Spanish, but at least wait until a player is gone before you report in a title that we are saying goodbye. Seriously, he room spun when I read that.

My two cents on the article itself, I can understand him. He might not be a good fit here in the long run. I would want a shot somewhere where my skill set is more valued and I would get more time to develop as well. But make no mistake about it, he has A SEASON to prove he still deserves a shot. Every year in sports people believe that the past provides a predictable line to what will happen in the future. It never happens exactly like planned. Underdogs rise, powers fall, and it happens in unpredictable ways. The third year guy who comes from nowhere, the former star who just can’t deliver after signing that big contract, ect. SERGIO IS NOT GONE YET, and this premature speculation is just that. 40 games from now there will be a lot more valid comments about him than there could ever be now.

by einman77 on Sep 19, 2008 5:21 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   4 recs

agree

This is nothing new — Ben, your translation of the “important part” is incorrect, please fix it! He said “if I don’t get minutes, I WOULD LIKE to play elsewhere, not I WANT to leave. I read that as "I will work my butt off to get minutes on this team, but let’s be honest, if that doesn’t happen I’d rather find a better fit somewhere else”.
I’m a little defensive of the guy but all of the negativity about him as a result of this comment is absurd to me, it’s just like that “in depth” Outlaw interview the other day. These players are real people with real careers and of course they want to live them to the fullest, not just play out whatever imaginary role we have idealized for them as Blazer fans.
That said, I hope Sergio sticks around long enough to teach Rudy how to speak English.

by kickbrass on Sep 19, 2008 7:01 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

super-duper double agree

this title is just totally inappropriate. at the very least it should have had a question mark at the end. not to mention the inaccurate translation, which still remains despite having been improved on, and Ben somehow ignoring that Sergio makes it very clear in the SAME INTERVIEW that he wants to stay in Portland and is prepared to earn his minutes. Sigh.

Free Sergio! http://www.freesergio.com

by sergioFTW on Sep 19, 2008 9:32 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The news of my demise has been exaggerated - Sergio Rodriguez

St. Bayno's 120 Haiku Prospects: Nicolas Batum in the paint—prairie grass, blown by wind.

by Norsktroll on Sep 20, 2008 1:32 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bayless Alleyoop.

Sound like this guy has some crazy hops!

but, is it just me or would you rather have heard about an impressive alleyoop by greg oden, tossed up by j-bay?

"Great Oden's raven!" - Ron Burgandy

by danevan on Sep 19, 2008 6:11 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well

That would be cool, but I’d rather hear about an impressive alleyoop by Bayless, tossed up by GO!

Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.

"I think it’s going to be very beautiful game next year."
-Nicolas Batum

by rockingharder on Sep 19, 2008 11:10 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

this kid can play

and it’s really too bad that he never got a chance on this team with this coach. he played well at the beginning of every year and nate simply killed his confidence as the season wore on. this kid would and maybe still will be a star on an up-tempo team.

by pitar on Sep 19, 2008 7:40 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I Agree

Coaches can and do kill a player’s enthusiasm and confidence. Nate doused Sergio in the middle of a 41-41 year so that J. Jack could accrue better trade value. It’s too bad when the coach isn’t creative enough to utilize talent. Nate is a great guy and a stern taskmaster, but he is not an out-of-the-box thinker. I kind of hope Sergio gets traded sooner rather than later, so that he can bloom somewhere else. I keep thinking back to Drazen Petrovic, who become a bona fide star after getting out of the cramped confines of Portland.

If you say "basically" at the beginning of a sentence, you probably also put ketchup on everything you eat.

by CosmoPlavix on Sep 19, 2008 8:33 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Seconded.

This blog post is making it hard for me not to come out guns ablazing, but I’m fighting the urge. I think this post is out of character with the BE main post section and seems needlessly reckless.

Free Sergio! http://www.freesergio.com

by sergioFTW on Sep 19, 2008 9:35 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes and no.

Good post, bad title. I think that if the title would have been “Adios Sergio?” or something less inflammatory, there wouldn’t be so much of an issue.

Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.

"I think it’s going to be very beautiful game next year."
-Nicolas Batum

by rockingharder on Sep 19, 2008 11:12 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Interesting point

I see what you’re saying, but I actually like the contrast in writing styles.. it’s good to have some of both. Gave you the clinching rec anyway since this is should be addressed.

by amitp06 on Sep 19, 2008 11:51 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I also rec'd this up

I’d been meaning to bring up a similar point since Ben stated that the Darius Miles scenario gave the Blazers organization a “black mark,” even though there’s zero evidence that’s true.

Then, in this case, there are false assumptions due to translation issues. Plus a title that really misrepresents the situation and shows Ben’s personal opinion of the situation, instead of a one-level-removed type of objectivity that’s really handy when reading front-page stories.

On the other hand, I also need to second TwoDeep’s comment that Ben is a great writer, and I especially enjoy the game write-ups (and am looking forward to them this year again!). But this recent change in style has been a little disappointing for a front-page post.

by Timmay! on Sep 20, 2008 12:17 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No and no

As far as the content, he was basically just putting Sergio’s own comments to a reporter out there for people to see and discuss.

As far as the title, I took this to mean “Adios Sergio?” Ok, so he left out the question mark, which may make you think it’s a straight “Goodbye Sergio” with nothing up for discussion. But after you read the body of it (assuming Sergio fans do more than browse headlines, which might be a stretch) you can clearly see that it was 1) triggered by Sergio’s own comment and 2) leaving things open for discussion on what they mean. Then the last line gives Ben’s opinion of what the comments mean.

If this was too much to handle, then maybe you’re not looking for a serious sports blog.

by Bust a Bucket on Sep 20, 2008 10:41 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Except that

it’s based on a flawed translation, which makes it not very good reporting.

This post was a mix of reporting and opinion. That’s fine and appropriate. But when you include reporting in a post, then you really need to make sure the facts are straight.

And the headline is somewhat misleading. Unintentional, obviously, and based on a flawed translation. And I can’t really blame Ben for the translation, since I can’t read Spanish at all. But I would have preferred to see an update included in the post and a question mark added at the end of the title, once a better translation was provided.

The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.

by jscot on Sep 22, 2008 12:50 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If Sergio's lackeys are afriad of the translation,

then they should translate it “in a more favorable light.”

Ben was just trying to shock and awe the readership to get us out of our comatose slumber. No harm, no foul.

by Bust a Bucket on Sep 22, 2008 1:35 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Actually

a couple of people have provided better translations. I’m not sure what more you want them to do.

The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.

by jscot on Sep 22, 2008 8:28 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If they're so good at translating

then they should go start a blog or something. Or do a fanpost and argue that their translation is better.

by Bust a Bucket on Sep 22, 2008 3:37 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

People complaining about the translation aren't "Sergio lackeys"

I’m not even a big fan of his. I just want responsible reporting. And a lack of knee-jerk reactions.

by Timmay! on Sep 22, 2008 10:44 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

people are so needy things days

now that we have food, shelter and water, we need “responsible reporting”

by Bust a Bucket on Sep 22, 2008 3:39 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

MINUS ONE.

If you want happy talk, there are official sites that will suit you.

Don’t make this another “official” site.

"TominHawaii's real name is Hubert and he's a rancher in Burns."

by timbo on Sep 21, 2008 6:51 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's interesting how the only people who want happy talk

are the lackeys backing up the players who are in the most precarious position on the team.

It’s mainly their fear that is doing the talking, even though their fingers actually type their posts.

Can you un-REC a post on here? If so, please tell me how to get the green shading off the above thingy.

by Bust a Bucket on Sep 21, 2008 8:37 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The point is

That it is a fan website and instead of ripping on the Lakers; a lot of Blazer fans would rather spend their time ripping on the 2nd or 3rd string point guard.

This isn’t a “Hey check out this new article from Spain about Sergio,” it’s a “Hey, let me use this new article from Spain about Sergio, as an opportunity to express my opinion that he sucks.”

Instead of disparaging Sergio from now on, lets just cal him STBT for “Spaniard To Be Traded.” I’d rather people write him off than talk crap about him.

He’s the freaking 2nd or 3rd string point guard for Kobe’s sake. The dude gets way to much hate and way too much love. I am sick of both, I just hate the hate more.

Blazers Edge has an alarmist vision

by tominhawaii on Sep 22, 2008 3:19 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like the STBT... not as easy to say as RLEC, but it's got legs

Yeah, I don’t like the whole love/hate relationship we have with some players— we love to hate them it seems. Why can’t we just hate them without showing how much we love doing that?

Good substance. I guess you got more than pineapples, sugar canes, mai ties, and Pearl Harbor memorabilia between your ears.

by Bust a Bucket on Sep 22, 2008 3:43 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ben the aspiring sports writer -

Ben is doing a good job trying to give a hard-hitting account of Sergio’s behavior. Ben’s point is Sergio’s immaturity and self-love prevent a realistic understanding of his abilities and his rank on the team. It also leads him to make wrong headed public comments. Fortunately, the coaches are paid to fix guys like that. Where Ben leaps off the deep end is in his conclusions. It’s kind of like picking the Super Bowl winner at the beginning of the year; you’re dead wrong but at least you went on the record. Ben and Sergio have a lot in common: They are still raw, they work with good organizations, they have good mentors, lots of fans, they occassionally make rash statements – should I go on. I don’t think we should throw either of them to the wolves just yet; there’s still a lot of potential .

by oregonslee on Sep 19, 2008 9:27 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The second unit needs a distributor

I’m excited about what I’ve been hearing about Bayless during the 5-on-5 runs. I think he might even earn minutes with Roy in the 4th. But Bayless didn’t play point at Arizona. He looked bad when he tried it in summer league. Bayless,Travis, Channing, Pryzbilla—sounds great but I can’t imagine a lot of crisp passing going on. Perhaps Rudy can be the facilitator from the 2, but otherwise we need a distributor like Sergio or a healthy Livingston. Sergio is the only blazer on either unit who has successfully involved Pryzbilla in the offense.

by cantdunk on Sep 20, 2008 12:44 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sergio running his mouth

This isb’t like Sergio to just knock his team-mates but if he has done it once he is likely to do it again like Ron Artest, I’m not saying Rodriguez is like Artest but it’s not what the Blazers need I think that the Blazers should put him on the block and see what they can get for him because he will go back to Spain soon anyway and if he is unhappy he is wasting a roster spot.

by britishblazerandy on Sep 20, 2008 4:47 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Again, he didn't run his mouth!

He actually said complimentary stuff about the team and that he’d like to earn more playing time. He’s been mistranslated to sound nastier than he was.

I wish all players in the NBA ran their mouth like that!

by Timmay! on Sep 20, 2008 10:26 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tough Calls

Nothing out of the ordinary was said. Further, we all know that the 5th guard on any team just doesn’t get much playing time. In fact, on Mac’s teams (at least last year) even the 4th guard, Sergio, didn’t get much time. Sergio knows this – and so does everyone on this board. It’s an irresolvable dilemma. Sergio may well have a career in the NBA. The problem is Mac/KP have to make decisions on the comparitive skills of these 5 guards. Someone gets left out. And it doesn’t mean they don’t have some pretty good skills. Don’t underestimate the difficulty Mac/KP have with this. Many times the 5th guard on a team that the Blazers look like they’re becoming, can go to another team and become a backup PG and pull a lot of minutes. Roy’s a lock. Blake’s a vet and we absolutely need his intelligence on the floor right now given that Rudy, Bayless and even Sergio are so young. Someone’s got to be the floor leader for Mac. Then, there’s Rudy and Bayless. The issue isn’t can Sergio play – the issue is going to be whether or not he’s more valuable than Rudy and Bayless. And, what happens if it’s close? Then, you have a judgement call – don’t you? But like it or not, one of these players isn’t going to play a lot – and none of them will be happy here if they don’t. I think they’re all probably too good to be a 5th guard. All of which is to say that by next summer – no matter how we all feel – one of them will probably be traded. And that would seem to imply that it will be Rudy, Bayless or Sergio. Like I said – one very tough call.

by Eben Calder on Sep 20, 2008 7:25 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

More Basketball blogs in Spain are following Blazersedge.

El Blog del Pistolero (The Gunman´s Blog) mentions the interview by Jugones with Ben, “one of the editors of the interesting Blazers Edge”. El Pistolero mentions the Sergio´s interview for Marca with the title “Sergio watch the glass half empty, half full”, saying that Blazers Edge has an alarmist vision.

The Midnight Rambler. Born to make mistakes.

by amlmart1 on Sep 20, 2008 9:20 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

y tienen razon!

that’s because Ben’s post IS alarmist, not to mention inaccurate! Please Ben fix the title and mistranslation at least!

by kickbrass on Sep 20, 2008 4:46 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sergio should take this post and its title as an ultimatum...

and see if he can actually contribute to this team.

If he can’t and he makes an effort (which I know he will), then it’s not his fault. It will come down to his lack of natural ability, which is the reason most of us don’t become professionals.

And he’ll get to keep the money we’ve paid him (not a bad little consolation prize either).

Either put up or shut up Sergio.

by Bust a Bucket on Sep 20, 2008 7:18 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Of Course He'll Want To Leave If Not Playing

Of course Sergio will want to leave if he’s not playing. He’s a young player with good potential who wants a chance to show the world how good a player he is. A player of his youth and abilities should never settle on being a third string point guard.

He’s been patient, for two years going on three years now, he’s given the club all the time they need to find out whether or not he has a future here. He’s been loyal. If it doesn’t work out from here he has to leave for the good of his career.

by NBR on Sep 20, 2008 10:42 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sergio is the best point guard alive

Sergio is the best! Why would you not want to play him? He makes the game very exciting, dishes out assists like an Uzi and his teammates love playing with him. He’s the only pure point guard we’ve got so if you piss him off he’ll be dishing out bullets instead of basketballs!

Let’s see if Bayless can finish at the rim with Shaq or Duncan or Ming in the lane! Let’s see if he can penetrate through a zone! Even if Bayless is the best defender, anyone can get past him using a pick.

The fact of the matter is, the coaches dropped the ball when they didn’t help develop his game the way they are doing with Oden. Sergio is very talented and can grow to one of the best point guards if the coaches do their jobs!

by Sergio007 on Sep 21, 2008 9:49 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ben wrote exactly what he believes

He listed a few points of similarity between things Sergio said and things other NBA players have said when they are on the path out of town:

“sergio is doing the things that a disgruntled player that wants a change of scenery does: pay lip service to his current franchise/town, engage in long discussions over playing time with his coach, complain to a sympathetic media (spain) for more minutes, hint at negative feelings he has over whether the team respects him and his abilities, and make statements that could be perceived as slights toward his teammates.”

I would have preferred that Ben put the aforementioned question mark in the title too, simply because when I read it I though Sergio had already been traded. Ben, please don’t mislead me like that again! But I don’t have a problem with the way Ben expressed his opinion about Sergio’s comments and what he thinks they mean.

A larger point is that this team has moved on from its rebuilding days. We have a lot of serious, talented players and high expectations now. Nate and his staff are moving away from developing players and moving toward playoff basketball. The team doesn’t need Sergio as much as they’d like to see him succeed. We’re going forward with or without him, and given the talent, basketball smarts, and effort of all our other guards, I think it unlikely that Sergio can rise in the depth chart. I hate to say it, but the team has left him behind, and the only realistic course of action for him now is to find a rebuilding team that can play him a lot of minutes and be patient while he learns how to play NBA ball.

"Screw the chalupa – it’s the victory I want." --timg56

by MiledAnimal on Sep 21, 2008 11:08 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Does Ben need to take a class on headlines?

Remember “Rebecca Haarlow likes to party,” a story that was really about Erin Andrews?

Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.

"I think it’s going to be very beautiful game next year."
-Nicolas Batum

by rockingharder on Sep 21, 2008 1:20 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I guess he knows how to get comments.

Not that he needs a flashy headline to do so – his writing is stellar.

Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.

"I think it’s going to be very beautiful game next year."
-Nicolas Batum

by rockingharder on Sep 21, 2008 3:54 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ooo, ouch... burn.

Seriously, maybe you can rent out a room at PCC Cascade or Rock Creek… or head up to the Bluff and rent out the Chiles Center for a seminar on headline writing…

Headlines are supposed to shock and awe the reader, so that they read the substantive part.

Have you ever heard of the Drudgereport? or the NY Times?

by Bust a Bucket on Sep 21, 2008 4:06 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lol

siting the Drudgerport as an example of proper journalism is the funniest thing in this thread. Headlines are meant to pull people in, BUT not by misleading the reader. Sergio hasn’t left and is not said to be leaving in the near future, so the headline of “Adios Sergio” is flatly incorrect.

Free Sergio! http://www.freesergio.com

by sergioFTW on Sep 21, 2008 4:11 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   2 recs

Sorry, I guess I'm dealing with journalistic and economic reality,

not some fantasyland (like N. Korea state media) that you seem to be living in.

My bad.

by Bust a Bucket on Sep 21, 2008 4:17 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No need to apologize.

It’s ok man.

Free Sergio! http://www.freesergio.com

by sergioFTW on Sep 21, 2008 5:33 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

+1

"You better come harder than that, little man, your makin' me laugh" G.O.

by BlueBooYay on Sep 21, 2008 5:43 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No, I mean really,

I should be more consider of people living in fantasylands…

I really feel bad about my ignorance of people’s circumstances. Sorry.

by Bust a Bucket on Sep 21, 2008 5:46 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.

"I think it’s going to be very beautiful game next year."
-Nicolas Batum

by rockingharder on Sep 21, 2008 10:59 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm not trying to insult Ben...

…though I see how that could have come off as a little harsh. Seriously though, his two most-commented entries (I think) have been the two with misleading headlines. They do their job, but half of the thread is about how misleading the title is or about what the headline suggests, not the actual story. I just think it would behoove Ben to write headlines that are actually descriptive of his posts!

Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.

"I think it’s going to be very beautiful game next year."
-Nicolas Batum

by rockingharder on Sep 21, 2008 10:59 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sorry,

this ain’t al-Jazzeera or the China Daily News.

nah, just kidding. I hear ya. yeah, i wonder how many of the posts are knocking Ben for his headline.

but since we comment on whether it was right or not, doesn’t that make it right? because somebody can always read the comments and decide for themselves?

Ben’s job is to draw people in and make sure they have that thought experiment and draw a conclusion. So if he doesn’t put a provacative headline, then we automatically skip over the post and never even think about it. See what I’m saying?

by Bust a Bucket on Sep 22, 2008 1:39 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well...

I see what you’re saying, but I disagree with the methodology. Ben should write accurate provocative headlines. What we have here is one without the other, which is journalistically irresponsible.

Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.

"I think it’s going to be very beautiful game next year."
-Nicolas Batum

by rockingharder on Sep 22, 2008 7:52 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oh, i get it

accuracy still counts then, eh?

by Bust a Bucket on Sep 22, 2008 11:20 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This thread needs a reply from RipCityGal.

What hap’n to her, anyway?

"Mister Oden is a very, very big human being." - Jerryd Bayless

by QualityPie on Sep 21, 2008 1:59 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Another september/08 interview with Sergio, this time for the Spanish UltimateNBA.

Link

UltimateNBA: How have you spent a long summer for you, without competition, after so many years coming to the call of the Spanish national team in different categories? Overloaded batteries?
Sergio Rodríguez: It has been a little bit strange summer for me, after the whole life in the national teams, but I have made use of it to improve my physicist and technical aspects of my shot.
U: What flavor has had for you the silver medal in the Olympics?
SR.: I am very satisfied for my partners and for the Federation. It is deserved, and very much, although it is clear that I had liked to be part of it and having been in my first Olympic Games.
U: What targets do you mark to yourself facing the period that in only one month begins?
SR.: My personal target is to play more minutes, to have more continuity and to be more important for the team. Only that, although for me it is already great.
U: And what target must the team have? Is the presence inexcusable in next Play Offs?
SR.: It is true that this year the team should play Play Offs, and in them, be once competitive, try to give some fight and why not, to win some round.
U: Do you have the impression of which the transfer of Jarrett Jack in exchange for a player like Jerryd Bayless has been the first sign of confidence of the Blazers towards you in 3 years?: or do you see Bayless as a direct competition in the position of PG despite he´s not a pure PG, I mean distributor?
SR.: Man, it is not possible to know that until the games do not start and the coach is testing the players and decides whom he is going to give more playing time. Clear that both Bayless and Brandon Roy can play PG despite not being the ideal position of both, but at first sight Jack’s transfer is not a bad sign for me.
U: The arrival of Rudy Fernández what does it suppose for you? From Spain there has always given me the impression that you were slightly helpless by the media compared with the rest of Spanish in the league.
SR.: It is good news to have Rudy as teammate, who in addition to being a compatriot is my friend. And with regard to what you comment of being alone, I have never felt this way, since I have adapted myself very well to the city, to the American life and take very well with the group. I hope I´ll help to Rudy so he adapts as rapidly as possible too.
U: Do you see Rudy with real options to enter the rotation, you that you meet perfectly McMillan?
SR.: Rudy is a first level player and I am sure that he will be in the rotation, although what it is necessary to bear in mind is that the season is long and very tough, and especially for an European rookie there can be logical ups and downs.
U: How much do you believe in McMillan´s words praising Rudy to the skies and giving him chance of playing minutes every night?
SR.: At first it is necessary to believe them. Certainly with the Olympic Games that there did Rudy, all the Blazer people are very expectant.
U: How is Greg Oden? Do you see him like a center that can make the difference in the next years?
SR.: Greg Oden is going to be a dominant center, especially defensively, in rebound and intimidation. I do not believe that he is going to be much of a scorer, at least at first, but he has everything to be able to dominate. Between LaMarcus Aldridge and Oden we have a very great inside game for the next years.
U: During this summer it seemed that your name has not appeared in transfer rumors. How do you value it?
SR.: Very well, perhaps there have been conversations and they didn´t go out to the public light, although we players can do little.
U: Had you preferred a change or you don´t think about it?
SR.: I always have wanted to triumph in Portland, though if it cannot be and to play habitually I have to change team, since what needs. Any thing to triumph in the league.
U: Is there any team in which you would like playing in a future?
SR.: I hope in the Blazers, and if not, the place does not matter to me. With 14 years I went away to Bilbao, with 17 to Madrid and with 19 to Portland.
U: Talking about Ricky Rubio coming to the NBA in a next future, you like a player who went young to the NBA, would you advise him anything? Perhaps to finish his development in FIBA or trying it as soon as possible?
SR.: Each one has to choose what he thinks is better for him and I am not anybody to give advices. Also there is no exact science. My dream was to come soon and to play many years here, and I am doing.
U: To end. Will we see you with the Spanish Jersey in the next European?
SR.: Certainly I will work for it.
U: Thank you very much Sergio for devoting ourselves part of your time and a lot of luck in this period. We will follow you very closely.
SR.: Thank you very much to you, I hope that you could speak very much and well of me.

The Midnight Rambler. Born to make mistakes.

by amlmart1 on Sep 21, 2008 4:39 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wait till Greg Oden hears this
I do not believe that he is going to be much of a scorer

Sergio just doesn’t get it.

Thanks for the translation amlmart1.

Blazers Edge has an alarmist vision

by tominhawaii on Sep 21, 2008 5:08 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You are like Greg Oden, but with less height

Are you feeling the love?!

"Personally, I'd rather give an elephant a prostate exam on Chili Day." --Dave on rooting for the Lakers or Celtics

by MiledAnimal on Sep 22, 2008 9:36 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes

Because I too, suck at karaoke.

Blazers Edge has an alarmist vision

by tominhawaii on Sep 22, 2008 3:22 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks for the translated interview. The more info we get about Sergio's thoughts at the moment the better.

One little error that stuck out:
“Improve my physicist” would be like “improve my Einstein/Hawking/…” ;-)

Physicist: Scientist who studies or practices physics
Physician: Doctor (easy to confuse the two)
Physique: Body (he could mean strength/speed/etc.)

St. Bayno's 120 Haiku Prospects: Nicolas Batum in the paint—prairie grass, blown by wind.

by Norsktroll on Sep 22, 2008 2:24 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ooops, thanks.

The Midnight Rambler. Born to make mistakes.

by amlmart1 on Sep 22, 2008 3:49 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lol rec'd

"Personally, I'd rather give an elephant a prostate exam on Chili Day." --Dave on rooting for the Lakers or Celtics

by MiledAnimal on Sep 22, 2008 9:28 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Go green, baby!

Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.

"I think it’s going to be very beautiful game next year."
-Nicolas Batum

by rockingharder on Sep 22, 2008 7:53 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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