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DraftXpress 1/2 Roster Scouting Report

Per Dave's ORDERS I would normally put this in the fanshots, but for three reasons I think I'm gonna' pop this into fanposts.

1) It's really big and long

2) It contains a lot of linky type stuff

3) Throughout the article and at the end I want to offer some of my own opinion, and then ask yours.

So if you want the original article, click here. Otherwise, you can read what I thought was key below. I bolded what I thought as important...but obviously almost everything Jonathan wrote was good. The players that are pretty fresh into the league he just lets you read the scouting report on them. But yeah, good article. If you enjoyed it, I encourage you to send him some feedback at jonathan@draftexpress.com

Alright, enjoy!

And yes, it is weird that we got Wafer and Jones reports but no LMA. Them's the breaks I guess. I changed the title to make it appropriate.

Portland Trailblazers


LaMarcus Aldridge (follow link to read scouting report)

Nicolas Batum (follow link to read scouting report)

Jerryd Bayless (follow link to read scouting report)

Steve Blake

Overview: A steady distributing point guard that is limited in certain respects, but can be an asset to some teams with his ability to make shots and create opportunities for his teammates. Has good size, but is not a tremendous athlete. Possesses middle-of-the-road size, quickness, and explosiveness for an NBA point guard. Lacks the strength to be a great finisher or defender. Can make an impact with his passing. Capable of doing some scoring, but that isn’t really his forte. Will make an effort defensively, but his lack of athleticism hurts him more than it did on the college level.

[snip]

A complementary player that can be a nice asset for a team with the right players around him.

Offense: Offers most of his value as a passer and shooter, but brings some things to the table as a scorer as well. Gets about half of his touches in pick and roll situations with another quarter coming from spot up opportunities. Relies very heavily on his jump-shot for production and rarely gets to the basket or free throw line. 

 

Attractive to some coaches because he can function as a catch and shoot guy without playing on the ball. Shot-selection is excellent. Not all that effective when pulling up off the dribble due to the fact that he can’t create separation against many defenders. Will turn the corner on the pick and roll, but isn’t quick enough to get to the rim without some help. Isn’t going to finish at a high rate around the rim due to his lack of athleticism. Doesn’t go to the foul line at all for that reason. Something of a streak shooter at the charity stripe. Won’t score terribly efficiently, but will set up his teammates at a high rate. Shows very good court vision, always looking for an open teammate. Ideally suited for pick and roll situations since he struggles to get by defenders himself and proves to be a very crafty passer in traffic. Would rather drive and dish than drive and score. Limited as a starting point guard at the end of shot-clocks and game-situations for that reason. Needs to have a great shot-creator next to him. Capable of running the break effectively. A good facilitator across the board. Has cut down on his turnovers as he’s gotten older, and is now regularly amongst the league leaders in assist to turnover ratio for that reason. Mistake-free player with a high basketball IQ. Not an ideal option due to his lack of athleticism and slashing potential, but more than capable of running a team and has the added versatility of being able to see minutes at the 2 as a spot-up shooter. In a good situation playing next a big combo guard in Brandon Roy.

Defense: A passable defender that will give an effort, but lacks the athleticism or strength to make a big impact. Applies solid ball pressure in half-court settings. Has the size to contest the shots of most point guards, but isn’t strong enough to defend other positions or more powerful players. Doesn’t a good job closing out shooters and getting a hand up, but lacks the quickness to stay with most of the elite point guards in the game. Won’t shy away when forced to fight over a screen, but doesn’t have the recovery speed to keep up with his man when he gets caught up. Shows good footwork and fundamentals when his man tries to get separation with hesitation and crossovers. Has a lot of good qualities on the defensive end, but often isn’t explosive enough to stay with players who are overwhelmingly more physically gifted than him.

Ike Diogu (follow link to read scouting report)

Rudy Fernandez (follow link to read scouting report)

Channing Frye

Overview:A long, athletic power forward who provides very nice depth and is an asset thanks to his combination of physical tools and high skill-level. Possesses a big wingspan and adequate size for both post positions. Could stand to get stronger to improve his ability to hold position on the block. Has added weight since entering the League, but more certainly wouldn’t hurt. Offers some versatility offensively with his ability to play high or low in the paint. An average defender who struggles to stay out of foul trouble. Had an extremely efficient four year career at Arizona, but wasn’t a dominant force by any means. Played his way into the lottery with by using his size and touch to shoot a very impressive percentage from the field. Had a great rookie season being named to the All-Rookie first team, but has seen his numbers decline in each season since, partially due to injuries. Has been criticized at times for a certain lack of toughness. Will show signs of potential, but needs to have a consistent role. Brings a lot to the table off the floor. One of the good guys in the League.

Offense: A quality offensive big man who hasn’t put up the same numbers since his outstanding rookie season. Gets about half of his touches from a combination of pick and rolls and spot up opportunities. Will also get some opportunities to post up and makes some scoring chances for himself by working on the offensive glass and moving without the ball. A classic modern day power forward due to his ability to space the floor from the outside, but still make plays around the hoop thanks to his length and athleticism. Has extremely soft touch from the perimeter for a player his size, but tends to fall in love with his jumper at times. Possesses textbook form. Has range out to college three point range, and sometimes beyond. Surprisingly capable shooter off the dribble. Tends to float when he pulls up going left. Capable of putting the ball on the floor one or two times to score, but isn’t going to break anyone down with a crossover anytime soon. Pretty perimeter oriented for a big man, but shoots a solid percentage from the field regardless. Has good hands and the athleticism needed to finish plays effectively at the rim, but usually not with authority. Doesn’t take contact very well, and goes to the line at just a decent rate. Struggles to get good position on the block and doesn’t have a great deal of moves in the paint. Has a well developed face up game, and loves to drive to his right and use a smooth running hook when he can get his man off balance. Works well off the ball and gives and effort on the offensive glass. Moves the ball well, but isn’t a flashy passer. Doesn’t turn the ball over as often as most big men who like to play outside. Generally has a good feel for the game and a nice skill-level. Brings a lot to the table on the offensive end in that he is big enough to play center and make plays around the rim, but can also stretch the floor as a PF for a low-post big man like Greg Oden or LaMarcus Aldridge. Would likely be able to put up very good numbers on a team without as much talent in the frontcourt.

Defense: Has the size, length and athleticism to be effective at times, but lacks the strength or toughness to live up to his potential on this end. Will get pushed around by bigger players on a regular basis and usually doesn’t offer much resistance. Has a hard time holding position. Capable of defending some power forwards, but has just average fundamentals and awareness out on the perimeter. Not able to come over from the weakside to block shots like he used to. Can’t hedge pick and rolls to the same extent either. Rebounds the ball at a respectable clip. Is extremely foul prone on a per-minute basis. Has a lot of room for improvement on this end of the floor, and will have to do so if he wants to see playing time under Nate McMillan.

James Jones, RLEC, Steven Hill, Luke Jackson all snipped by me. Again, you can get all that good stuff in the original article, if you so please.


Greg Oden (follow link to read scouting report)

Travis Outlaw

Overview:A long athletic combo forward that took a while to come around after being drafted straight out of high school, but has become a very nice role playing scorer. Has tremendous size and a great wingspan for a small forward, but sees quite a few minutes at the 4 as well. An elite run and jump athlete. Not very strong physically, but has added some muscle to his frame over time. Can make an impact with his mid-range jumper. Has all the assets you look for in a big time defensive player, but hasn’t put them together yet. Still has quite a bit of potential in that area, and is extremely young despite going into his sixth season in the NBA. Was simply too athletic to be stopped during his career at Starkville HS (MS). Was picked in the first round based solely on his long-term potential. Took a few years to acclimate to the NBA level. Needed to hone all of his skills and had a hard time making an impact early in his career. Hasn’t made a big stride in one particular area but has simply improved every year. Not the smartest player in the world, but is a hard worker and has a very easy going personality. Could grow into a very valuable niche player if he manages to keep his ego in check.

Offense: An athlete that is capable of scoring in a number of ways. Gets about one-third of his offense in spot up situations, with another large portion coming in one-on-one opportunities and moving without the ball. Displays a semi-consistent jump shot that he’s honed significantly over the course of his career. Used to shoot a ton of off balance shots, but has refined his form in recent seasons. Gets great elevation when he pulls up off the dribble. Can score driving in either direction, but still shows some questionable shot selection on his pull ups. Get separation easily due to his length and athleticism. Capable catch and shoot player. Has slowly extended his range out to the NBA line, but doesn’t take many attempts from that far out. Much more of a mid-range player. Sees a good amount of isolation plays from the high post. Not a great ball-handler, struggles to change directions and speeds when he attacks the rim. Could stand to improve in that area. Usually just tries to blow by his man. Will force some shots going away from the rim when he can’t get all the way to the rim. Not a great finisher for an athlete of his caliber, despite his terrific extension around the rim. Has a hard time dealing with contact. Goes to the line at a very good rate, and shoots a decent percentage. Will make some highlight reel plays in transition. Gets some chances in the post, showing a nice turnaround jumper. Doesn’t set up teammates or turn the ball over often. Will grab an offensive rebound from time to time. Can create his own shot due to his athleticism, but still needs to learn how to pick and choose his spots. Shot-selection is questionable at times. Top-20 in the league in field goal attempts per-minute, but isn’t efficient enough to really warrant that.

Defense: A solid defender who needs to recognize that he has all of the physical tools to be an elite defender. Has the length and lateral quickness to be a menace on the perimeter, but has only been to take advantage of that in small doses. Is largely inconsistent with the things he shows on the defensive end. Follows up one great play up with a terrible one, blocking shots and getting steals, but also falling for fakes and taking some possessions off. Isn’t always very aggressive when defending the perimeter. Doesn’t get low in his stance will let slower players beat him off the dribble periodically. Won’t give up a lot of penetration when he’s giving a good effort. Has the length to contest shots and the quickness to close out shooters effectively. Can be a force when he’s fully tuned in thanks to his awesome physical tools. Will get an occasional steal or block. Tends to largely let the game come to him, not always following the scouting report or displaying good fundamentals. Rebounds at a solid rate by virtue of his athleticism. Has all kinds of potential as a defender. Needs to recognize what an added measure of defensive intensity and awareness could do for his value as a role player.

Joel Przybilla

Overview:A big, strong, defensive-minded center that doesn’t much to the table offensively. Has great size and strength for a center, even in NBA terms. Not an elite level athlete by any means, but shows good athleticism for a player his size. Was never that productive on the offensive end. Shows some tools, but has never been able to develop a consistent repertoire. Plays within himself more so than he used to. Makes a living with his defense. Blocks shots and especially grabs rebounds at a superb rate. Filled essentially the same role in his two years at Minnesota. Got drafted in the top-ten by virtue of his defensive abilities, size, and potential. Never developed the offensive game to be a more complete player. Bounced around the League before finding a home in Portland. Can be a great asset off the bench due to his size and aggressive mentality.

Offense: A pure role-playing offensive player that scores fairly efficiently without having any plays called for him. Does most of his damage by working on the glass and moving without the ball. Has essentially no jump shot. Shoots the ball from his chest without a lot of touch. Does all of his damage within a couple feet of the rim. Shows the ability to read his teammates and get into position to receive the ball for easy baskets. Offers a huge target when he flashes to the middle. Fights for position on the block and always goes after offensive rebounds. Size, strength, and aggressiveness make him one of the game’s top rebounders. Never shy about initiating contact. Goes to the line at a solid rate relative to his minimal touches. Has improved his free throw shooting over time. Turns the ball over at an alarming rate relative to the amount of touches he receives, amongst the worst in the NBA. Doesn’t have a very good left hand, but can finish over his left shoulder on the block. A true banger that sets good (sometimes moving) screens, works hard, but isn’t going to do much damage when he has to create his own shot. Not a glamorous option offensively, and is far from a feature talent, but can be a decent complementary player in the post.

Defense: A solid defender that is good for a few blocks, a ton of rebounds, and a handful of fouls every game. Doesn’t do a great job using his strength defensively. Will allow his man to get position on the block by sagging too far into help side. Will fight for position when he knows the ball is about to be entered. Won’t give up an inch as soon as his man has the ball. Will force his man to miss some easy shots by being physical and not falling for a lot of fakes. Gets most of his fouls by reaching over the top of shooters when he’s beat. Does a good job going straight up with he maintains position. Won’t hedge many screens. Very aggressive when going after rebounds. Outstanding at cleaning up the defensive glass. Will block some shots on and off the ball. Very nice option defensively due to his ability to contest shots and rebound, but needs to do a better job keeping the ball out of his man’s hands.

Sergio Rodriguez (follow link to read scouting report)

Brandon Roy

Overview:One of the most versatile and talented young players in the NBA these days, and clearly a cornerstone of Portland’s franchise. Has good size for the shooting guard position, and an average wingspan, but often acts as a de facto point guard thanks to his ball-handling skills and outstanding court vision. Extremely smooth player who can get up around the basket, but isn’t an athletic freak like some of his all-star counterparts. Can do it all pretty much offensively, and is extremely efficient to boot. Strong rebounder for a guard and a terrific decision maker. Fills up the stat-sheet on a nightly basis. Very difficult to take off the court. Possesses fantastic intangibles both on and off the court. Has had a variety of injury problems throughout his career, which is the only thing that might hamper him from developing into one of the NBA’s marquee guards.

Offense: Scores in a variety of ways and is highly adept at creating for himself and others off the dribble. Smooth, skilled, fundamentally sound, and effortless in everything he does. Plays shooting guard for Portland but acts as their primary ball-handler in the half-court. Terrific pick and roll player with impeccable timing, ball-handling skills and patience. Sees the entire floor and has a knack for making the best decision possible. Highly unselfish and extremely creative. Possesses a very smooth shooting stroke with range that extends out to the NBA arc, but is clearly at his best in the mid-range area, where he’s extremely effective pulling up off the dribble. Still working on the consistency of his 3-point shot, but appears to be capable of making shots with his feet set. Can also create his own shot extremely well. Uses his excellent timing, ability to change gears and strong hesitation moves (rather than an incredible first step) to get by his defender at will, and gets to the free throw line at a very nice rate. Drives left or right equally well, and does an outstanding job of limiting his turnovers relative to the amount of possessions he uses. Also has a bit of a post-up game—very crafty here and knows how to use his body effectively. About as versatile as they come, and exactly the type of player you want with the ball in his hands making decisions.

Defense: A bit lackadaisical at times defensively, possibly due to the amount of responsibility he’s forced to shoulder on the other end, as well as the heavy amount of minutes he plays. Has great size at close to 6-7 in shoes, albeit an average wingspan (6-8), and is smart and athletic enough to make a solid impact here when he puts his mind to it. Knows how to get down in a fundamental stance and contain his matchup, but doesn’t always have the length to contest every shot. Adding a bit of strength could help him, as he’s susceptible to being bumped off his spot and isn’t quite always physical enough to fight back when being posted up. Has really nice timing, knows the scouting report and can make things difficult when it’s time to buck down and get a stop. Contributes on the glass as well.

Jamal Tatum, Von Wafer skipped. See original article if you really want to read about them.

Martell Webster

Overview:A quality swingman who is still young enough to make some significant strides. Has had a strong frame since his days in high school. Possesses very good size and strength for an NBA wing. Not a great athlete, but not a slouch either. Enjoys nice straight line speed, good leaping ability, and a deceptive first step. Has learned to better utilize his athleticism as he’s gained experience, but still lacks the ball-handling skills to take full advantage. Was always known for his shooting stroke, but is still improving his consistency. Takes a ton of threes. Becoming more versatile as he gets older. Has a lot of things he still could improve on. Shows some signs defensively, and could become an even better role player if he puts in more effort on that end. Garnered attention very early in his high school career at Seattle Prep (WA). Was ranked among the top players in his class by his senior year. Committed to Washington, but solidified his spot in the middle of the lottery with some great workouts and All-Star game performances. Spent some time in the NBADL as a rookie. Began to show signs of significant improvement as a third year player, although he’ll probably never live up to his lofty draft status. May still get better and develop into a very effective role player, especially with a dominant big man like Greg Oden drawing double teams inside. Very mature and intelligent off the court.

Offense: A quality shooter who is still developing his offensive game. Gets most of his touches in spot up situations, but also earns from chances by running the floor hard in transition. Has a pretty right handed stroke that he gets off very quickly. Has the size and high release point needed to get his shot off in the blink of an eye, making him a very dangerous threat from beyond the arc. Learning how to run off of screens more effectively to get open. Has always been a great catch and shoot player. Half of his attempts from the field come from beyond the arc. Only a decent shooter off the dribble, largely due to the fact that he struggles to create separation. Not going to turn the corner off the dribble. Needs to continue developing his ball-handling skills, which are currently very weak. Doesn’t finish at a high rate at the rim, as he’s often out of control with his dribble by the time he gets there. Lack of blow by speed hurts him when the defense is able to collapse around him. Extremely explosive at the rim in the open floor though. Goes to the line at an average rate and shoots a decent percentage. Doesn’t make plays for his teammates, but doesn’t turn the ball over either. Runs the floor extremely hard. Beginning to show a better feel for the game on the offensive end, which will only come with experience. Shot-selection still questionable at times. Needs to become more efficient as he gets older, and round out his game to be more than just a one-dimensional three point shooter. Shows some flashes of a post game thanks to his superior size, strength and length, and should continue to develop this part of his game to take advantage of mismatches.

Defense: Shows some signs on the defensive end, but not consistently. Not a bad one-on-one defender, but lacks the lateral quickness to consistently defend more athletic players. Will get beat off the dribble from time to time. Reaches a little bit too frequently. Doesn’t come up with many steals or blocks regardless. Has the size to contest shots and does a decent job getting a hand up when his man pulls up. Lacks some experience and savvy on this end. Will try and close out shooters and block their shots, leaving himself out of position for long rebounds. Cleans the glass at a solid rate for a wing. Makes a nice effort defensively, but still needs to develop better anticipation and fundamentals, and just learn the small tricks of the trade. Lacks the foot quickness to be a lockdown defender, and is somewhat stuck between the 2 and the 3, but has the strength, size and length to be a capable one with experience.

Here's what I think

Before continuing, great breakdown by Jonathan. Can't give him and Matt K. enough props.

But anyway, here are some things I took away from this mammoth article.

1) Outsiders, or should I say...those who may see our team more objectively, offer somewhat of a different view on our guys than we would, and they don't mince words.

True, we can agree with most of what Jonathan says, having observed most of it ourselves, but maybe you, like I did, cringed when he called Channing "soft." Or when he said that Martell lacks the lateral quickness to become a lock down defender.

2) Brandon Roy is really good.

Ok, so maybe that's not a new revelation to most of you, but seriously. The scouting report on Brandon had as many superlatives as most TV shows have expletives. I mean, how many times can you squeeze the words extremely, fantastic, terrific, entire, and smooth into a few paragraphs? Jonathan, rightly so, gave a glowing review of Brandon. In just two years, has Brandon earned the right to have those kinda' words said about him? I think so; holler if you disagree.

3) We have a LOT of "pieces."

Ok, so more big news. What else is new? I was seriously struck by how many "pieces" we have (I know, KP, you hate that word. Sorry. Better than "chips."). From one to ten, eleven, maybe even twelve we have a pretty fair lineup. It will most definitely be interesting to see how they all coexist and develop, and who ends up here two, three, four years down the road.

What do you think?

Alright, so whatcha think?

  • Fair evaluations? You agree or disagree with Channing being soft, Martell not capable of being a lockdown defender?
  • Bradon deserve the accolades?
  • What to do with the pieces?
  • Is Nic looking away so he doesn't have to see that old guy blow his nose?
  • And am I really good looking or is it just me? And remember...if you don't have something nice to say....

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Nice post

but I dont want Timbo to think that people are posting here just to make him look worse than 92

by southern oregon on Sep 16, 2008 11:57 PM PDT reply actions  

It's nice to see ...

Joel Przybilla being credited for his outstanding man-to-man interior defense. By average fans, players across the NBA — such as Przybilla, Jeff Foster, Rasho Nesterovic, and the Collins twins — don’t get enough respect for their ability to shut down the low-post. Steven Hill, who may make the team as its third-string pivotman, also can do that.

Similarly, I’m glad that an objective observer mentions that Martell Webster “lacks lateral quickness,” Brandon Roy is “lackadaisical at times defensively,” et cetera. Until Kevin Prtichard acquires a lockdown one-on-one perimeter defender to complement the backcourt, that’ll be a glaring weakness ripe for exploitation each and every game.

by AK1984 on Sep 17, 2008 1:52 AM PDT reply actions  

Just in general

And I think we can all agree that I am…correct?

"I think that the team that wins game five will win the series. Unless we lose game five."
Who else? Charles Barkley

by prezofdeath on Sep 17, 2008 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was a bit surprised by the defensive rating on Trout

Either Jonathan knows something I don’t (highly probable) or we’re watching different versions of Trout. I don’t know if I’d call him solid with the chance to be elite at this point – perhaps with regard to weak-side, but not face-up.

by DonkeyShins on Sep 17, 2008 10:32 AM PDT reply actions  

he is

every bit as athletic as teyshawn prince……and i agree with his assesment. When he puts his mind to it, he is a tenacious defender, but he doesnt bring that intensity every play

by BroyTheTruth on Sep 17, 2008 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

He also called Frye "long"

Frye is as relatively long as Bayless is; his wingspan isn’t much longer than his height.

For a big man, I’d say Frye is the opposite of long.

And I disagree with Outlaw’s defensive assessment as well. He is just flat out TOO SLOW laterally. It’s like his feet are stuck in Mississippi Molasses! Is that something real? I dunno, sounded funny.

Givony is great, and really smart, and has a KP fetish like all of us, but he can’t be expected to know everything about everybody, is what I say. For the amount of players he keeps track of and the breadth of knowledge the sight has, he does a really good job.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Sep 17, 2008 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Frye is long

When he was drafted, Frye was measured at 6’9.5" without shoes. He had a wingspan of 7’2.5" and a standing reach of 9’2.5". There are 45 NBA prospects in draftexpress’ database that are between 6’9 and 6’10 without shoes, and they have an average wingspan of 7’1.3" and average standing reach of 9’0.1". Therefore Frye is longer than average for an NBA prospect of his height, and NBA prospects are probably longer on average than normal people of the same height. He is also long compared to other players at his position; players that are expected to be PFs in the NBA have an average wingspan of 7’0.7" and an average standing reach of 8’10.5".

I agree about the scouting report overestimating Outlaw’s defensive potential. Outlaw is too weak to stop bigger forwards and too slow laterally to guard smaller ones. The scouting report also overstates Trout’s rebounding ability; Trout is an average rebounder for the SF position (he grabbed 7.2 rebounds per 48 min playing at SF, vs the opposing SFs getting 7.3 during the same time) and is a pretty bad rebounder at the PF position (8.4 rebounds/48 vs 10.3 for the opposing PF).

by trk on Sep 17, 2008 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Oopsie daisy

I had his wingspan filed incorrectly in my brain somehow.

And while it was filed incorrectly, I used it to confirm in my brain why Frye seems so much shorter than LMA, when their actual height is hardly different. My brain said LMA’s arms are just sooo much longer and lankier is why.

But you’re obviously right; Frye has a really good wingspan!

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Sep 18, 2008 12:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

You are correct that Aldridge has 2.25" more wingspan

but Aldridge’s standing reach is slightly less than Frye. What sets Aldridge apart (in measurements) is a 34" vertical (w/step) or 3 inches more than Frye. Channing is long to me.

Aldridge said. "We feel like we can beat any team. We feel like we can beat the Spurs, Suns, Lakers, Mavericks, whoever any night right now, and we'll still be here when those teams get old and their guys retire. We're going to be here for a long time."

by lee3022 on Sep 18, 2008 12:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Now I'm trying to picture it in my noggin'

Since LMA is taller height wise, has longer arms, how is his standing reach lower than a shorter guy with shorter arms?

Are LMA’s shoulders just so low, and his neck too long, that his highest reach ain’t as high?

Frye is tall and all, he just seems quite a bit ‘smaller’ next to LMA, even though the numbers are hardly different. Kinda like the Bayless-effect… we know he is 6’3" in shoes, but he has a optical illusion that surrounds him and makes him appear smaller.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Sep 18, 2008 12:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Like Dwight

I can’t remember where, but I read an article with a professional trainer/scout (Thorpe? Linked from Truehoop?) about Dwight Howard. People were bashing him for being 6’9" or 6’10" and not tall enough. The money quote was along the lines of, “That’s just because he’s got a tiny head and neck. Head height is just useless anyway.” It was referring to the shoulder height being of more practical importance, but people are always measured to the top of their head. Just thought it was funny.

< /war >

by Diesel10 on Sep 18, 2008 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm 6'10"

"Screw the chalupa – it’s the victory I want." --timg56

by MiledAnimal on Sep 18, 2008 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Length of neck and head cuts that down

So what they’re saying is that a giraffe-neck like Bosh is actually as tall effectively as a guy 2 inches shorter.
Makes sense in most regards, but the guy with the freakishly long neck is going to be able to see better, so it’s not perfect.

"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ." -Gandhi
"Throw Thag, throw. Throw throw throw throw throw throw"- Far Side

by TheThinWhiteDuke on Sep 18, 2008 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's true.

For getting a shot off, it’s not just whether or not the defender can get to the ball;
his ability to get his hand in your FACE is totally relevant.

And for someone like LMA, Rudy, or Martell, with that sweet high release on mid-range jumpers,
getting a hand in the face is the ONLY way (other than body contact, which risks a foul, especially an and-1)
to defend that shot once it’s on its way; the ball itself is completely out of reach.

So that “Head height is just useless anyway” comment is wrong (but feels right upon first hearing it).

"Mister Oden is a very, very big human being." - Jerryd Bayless

by QualityPie on Sep 19, 2008 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope he makes the roster with the Suns or Raptors.

Just to see “Tatum” and “O’Neal” in the boxscore.

"Mister Oden is a very, very big human being." - Jerryd Bayless

by QualityPie on Sep 19, 2008 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

What the --?!

That’s not supposed to be HERE . . .

"Mister Oden is a very, very big human being." - Jerryd Bayless

by QualityPie on Sep 19, 2008 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Trout

Can run and jump as well as Prince but is about as hard to go around as a fence post,he is like Martell slow side to side but does get up contesting jump shots and I have not given up on these guys being able to improve their D with Greg behind them

by southern oregon on Sep 19, 2008 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Very odd preview

First, the players he took the time to write about are not even all of Portland’s main players. Nothing about LMA, Greg, Rudy or Bayless. Those are 4 big time parts to this year. All of this while taking the time to break down Reaf and Von Wafer?

Also he gave a decent break down of the players he choose, but didn’t break down the team at all, didn’t include any thoughts about how their schedule looked or if he thought they might make the playoffs. He calls this article “scouting reports” which is much more accurate than season preview. Maybe you should change your title to better reflect the actual topic.

by usmcr3049 on Sep 17, 2008 10:38 AM PDT reply actions  

Not previewing LMA was weird

But DExpress doesn’t profile Rookies, so that’s why no Oden, Jerryd, or Rudy.
I too would have like a team break-down, but I’m just happy they did a preview at all.

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by TheThinWhiteDuke on Sep 17, 2008 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jeepers

I joked that you are the Master at Arms of BlazersEdge. You really are. I didn’t realize you were such a hardass, even when it comes to fanpost titles.

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by tominhawaii on Sep 17, 2008 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

If I was really the "master at arms"

I would have also warned the OP about posting a full article, instead of picking out a short quote, then giving his overall opinion. But i am not, I am just a concerned poster here at the edge.

by usmcr3049 on Sep 19, 2008 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's no biggy

I think you should embrace the role.

The Josh abides.

by tominhawaii on Sep 19, 2008 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Somehow this reminded me of Man-At-Arms ;-)


Good times.

St. Bayno's 120 Haiku Prospects: Nicolas Batum in the paint—prairie grass, blown by wind.

by Norsktroll on Sep 19, 2008 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mr. Master @ Arms

I have fulfilled thy request. Title changed.

"I think that the team that wins game five will win the series. Unless we lose game five."
Who else? Charles Barkley

by prezofdeath on Sep 17, 2008 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

LMA, Oden, Rudy, and Bayless

already have reasonable up-to-date profiles. Draftexpress is trying to write a scouting report on every player in the NBA, but since they have already written about those 4 relatively recently they must feel that there is no need to update their profiles right now.

by trk on Sep 17, 2008 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Would it be totally Crass if I emailed Johnathan and said,

“hey you forgot to add that Nic Batum is totally HOT! into the scouting report!”

??
Ok just kidding.

I think its a fair assesment. I usually view my favorite things with unbridled optimism and consider them through my subjective and very illusory lense!!! :) So with that being said, some of his criticism is a bit jarring.

Thanks for the post :)

Sophia

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by BlazerFan1 on Sep 17, 2008 10:58 AM PDT reply actions  

It might be listed as a weakness

See “Too hot for the NBA”. Well, at least DraftExpress added a nice video interview with him.

St. Bayno's 120 Haiku Prospects: Nicolas Batum in the paint—prairie grass, blown by wind.

by Norsktroll on Sep 17, 2008 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

I appreciated that !

:)

"Thank God those nightmarish booty-less days are behind us. I blame cocaine."-Mortimer
I detest that man who hides one thing in the depths of his heart, and speaks for another. - Homer
That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
1881
The wild hawk stood with the down on his beak And stared with his foot on the prey. - Lord Alfred Tennyson

by BlazerFan1 on Sep 17, 2008 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I found it OK at best

The fact that he broke down Wafer and Jones, but not even LMA was dumb. I also would have enjoyed reading a team assessment. Maybe even a coaching breakdown. Where is Sergio? I know he’s a bit player, but why then Why Wafer? Why even do Team Previews if they aren’t going to be complete?

I like Jonathon, he does a great job of breaking down players, but this “Team Preview” seemed lazy. All he did was group the player reviews he already had done, together.

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by iDea on Sep 17, 2008 11:52 AM PDT reply actions  

LMA's worst case player

is funny!

My favorite teams are the Blazers and any team that is playing the Lakers.

by OCBlazerFan1 on Sep 17, 2008 12:09 PM PDT reply actions  

I saw that too!

Does it makes sense to call someone’s worst case scenario a guy who hasn’t had a chance to fully develope either? At least make it a guy who has been in the league for more than 5 years.

Devil's Advocate or just argumentative?

by Magnum on Sep 18, 2008 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

And

He will be better than the best case.

The Josh abides.

by tominhawaii on Sep 19, 2008 4:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

NBAdraft.net took that as his general comparison

http://www.nbadraft.net/admincp/profiles/lamarcusaldridge.html

Apparently LaMarcus is exceeding the prognostications of most scouts. USA Today compared him to Jack Sikma. That wouldn’t be a bad target, the guy was a multiple All-Star and won a championship with the Sonics.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/nba/blazers/2008-01-28-book-on-aldridge_N.htm

St. Bayno's 120 Haiku Prospects: Nicolas Batum in the paint—prairie grass, blown by wind.

by Norsktroll on Sep 19, 2008 6:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would pay serious money to watch the Blazers

If LMA got a nice Sikma-esque “Greatest American Hero” blonde perm.
Talk about retro!

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by TheThinWhiteDuke on Sep 19, 2008 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Former tennis star and

now-convicted check-kiter and non-child-support-payer Roscoe Tanner sported a blonde perm on the Johnny Carson show shortly after losing a close 1979 Wimbledon final to Bjorn Borg.

Who else is out there…

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by MiledAnimal on Sep 19, 2008 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is not a team preview.

It’s titled “NBA Scouting Reports, Northwest Division (Part Three).” This series is simply meant to give a quick overview of all of the players in the league. Givony also notes that he doesn’t give reports on players who were rookies and sophomores last season (and incoming rookies). Having a scouting report on Roy was an exception.

by poster on Sep 17, 2008 12:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Jamaal Tatum

Sounds like a guy to root for, even if his chances are slim and none to make the roster

(from Draft Xpress, PIT coverage)

"Tatum’s best attribute may be his defensive ability. Tatum has excellent athletic ability and can move his feet with the quickest of guards. He stays low and in sound fundamental position while using his hands and keeping a constantly changing distance between himself and his opponent which makes it extremely difficult for anyone to advance the ball. This was never more evident than in the championship game where he held tourney MVP DeShaun Wood in check for at least 80 percent of the time they were matched up.

Offensively, Tatum can shoot the outside shot, pull-up from mid-range, and even finish up high on the inside on occasion…"

(NBA draft diary)

"Ask Jamaal Tatum about all of his success during the 2006-07 season and he will be quick to throw much of the credit towards his teammates. The Missouri Valley Conference Player of the Year is as humble as they come and is quick to make sure those around him get recognized just as much as he does.

"I mean [winning player of the year], that’s a good feeling in itself. Then knowing how hard my teammates worked to get me to that point, because if they didn’t put in the hard work that they did, if they didn’t come out to compete every game, I never would have gotten the award. So a lot of that award goes to them and how much hard work they put in to help me succeed, and to help us win the conference," Tatum said."

From these articles, I can see why KP brought this guy in

by two4larue on Sep 17, 2008 12:29 PM PDT reply actions  

I think he has a place in this league, just not on the Blazers (at least now)

St. Bayno's 120 Haiku Prospects: Nicolas Batum in the paint—prairie grass, blown by wind.

by Norsktroll on Sep 17, 2008 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

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