Darius Miles might not play with Celtics
by BRoyInThe4th on Sep 11, 2008 7:34 AM PDT
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I was checking the rumors area on ESPN and I see that Sam Cassell will play one more year with the Celtics. I head over to realGM and read in a thread that Miles spot might have just been taken when Sam signs. Does this mean that Miles won't play? Or is he the 13th or 14th man already?
Here's a link:
15th roster spot taken by Cassell
I'm still trying to find a list of all signed players to see.
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Darius, please call it quits
wont it be embarressing to go to strip clubs needing a walker or wheelchair?
Fea dis
by bow4meow on Sep 11, 2008 8:01 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure there are enterprising dancers
who can perform a lap dance in a wheelchair.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Sep 11, 2008 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt that's the way he imagines his later career
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obdd31Q9PqA
Though this man is a lot more inspiring.
Odenied: Asked whether he noticed Oden favoring his right knee, Frye dismissed it entirely. "He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors."
by Norsktroll on Sep 11, 2008 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know what I'd like Darius to do
Kilroy was here.
by tominhawaii on Sep 11, 2008 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do tell.
"I think that the team that wins game five will win the series. Unless we lose game five."
Who else? Charles Barkley
by prezofdeath on Sep 11, 2008 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He would like Darius to give me his weight loss pills so I can get back into shape
And let me drive his Hooptie with 30" chrome rims through downtown at a relatively high rate of speed while puffing large like Marley, my goods wrapped in tin foil in the back seat with my Champion Pitbulls riding shotgun
"It's how you play the Ga-ame..." - Greg Oden with Justin Timeberlake at the Espy's
by BlazermaniacAndy on Sep 11, 2008 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
sounds like...
just another saturday for me….
by BroyTheTruth on Sep 11, 2008 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cassell makes 16 coming to camp
Miles would have to beat out someone with a one-year contract just to make the roster. Competition would be Gabe Pruitt and Bill Walker (who’s not getting cut). Considering that reports make it sound like he is playing on a chicken bone it almost seems impossible that Boston would go injury over youth and cut Pruitt just for Miles. (Even if he did make the roster, when would he play? If he gets 10 games, clearly it’s a conspiracy).
by 0004248939 on Sep 11, 2008 8:20 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah, but conspiracy to what end? Get a couple mil out of Paul Allen in luxury tax? Big woop. He probably spends that in cheese each year.
http://www.myspace.com/y5k
by Y5k on Sep 11, 2008 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reduce our cap space, in case you were under a rock and didn't read about it
http://www.blazersedge.com/2008/7/19/574948/if-darius-plays-does-it-or
It’s hard to imagine that’s the main reason, but it would be a bad by-product for us.
Odenied: Asked whether he noticed Oden favoring his right knee, Frye dismissed it entirely. "He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors."
by Norsktroll on Sep 11, 2008 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
still, it couldn't hurt that bad.
http://www.myspace.com/y5k
by Y5k on Sep 11, 2008 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
good news
at least for us.
MIles, Europe is such a great place to live.
You’d love to play there, the european girls are better than the american ones, I can guarantee.
by Falcao on Sep 11, 2008 8:27 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Reall? So your saying I should try my luck oversea's for a wifey?
"It's how you play the Ga-ame..." - Greg Oden with Justin Timeberlake at the Espy's
by BlazermaniacAndy on Sep 11, 2008 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, go there
just don’t go to England.
But maybe that’s just me, each one with your own preference.
by Falcao on Sep 11, 2008 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec
Their Olympic swim team was ever so ugly.
I have a huge, but useless, set of wooden genitals.
by tominhawaii on Sep 12, 2008 5:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Roster
Ray Allen (G), Tony Allen (G), Glen Davis (F/C), Kevin Garnett (F/C), J.R. Giddens (G), Eddie House (G), Darius Miles (F), Patrick O’Bryan ©, Kendrik Perkins ©, Paul Pierce (F), Leon Powe (F), Gabe Pruitt (G), Rajon Rondo (G), Brian Scalabrine (F), Bill Walker (F/G).
Free Agents: P.J. Brown (said he will not be back), Scott Pollard (very unlikely he will be invited back), Sam Cassell (G)
Unsigned Draft Pick: Semih Erden ©
Now if Cassell comes back, it’s 16 and really not looking too good for Darius. Although the Celtics are not really deep on small forward, with just Pierce and 6’6 rookie Bill Walker if they don’t take Darius. Maybe if the Celtics are not convinced of Pruitt and they would still have guards House and Cassell they might look to trade him (e.g. Miami is still looking for a backup PG/SG). Which in turn would open another spot.
Odenied: Asked whether he noticed Oden favoring his right knee, Frye dismissed it entirely. "He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors."
by Norsktroll on Sep 11, 2008 8:47 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but...
when Doc Rivers was asked why Miles is invited he said, “Well… why not, right?” (paraphrase)
by 0004248939 on Sep 11, 2008 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Miami Heat ...
are just waiting for Chris Quinn to sign his one-year, $972,581 qualifying offer. That’ll give the Heat six guards under contract, which includes Dwyane Wade, Marcus Banks, Daequan Cook, Mario Chalmers, Yakhouba Diawara, and Quinn. Right now, Heat GM Randy Pfund’s main quandry is finding a way to dump Udonis Haslem for someone who’s got an expiring contract, with the following being an example of that.
The New York Knicks would get a face-to-the-basket center in Darko Milicic, the Memphis Grizzlies would fill its void at power forward with Haslem, and the Heat would obtain Malik Rose’s expiring contract.
by AK1984 on Sep 11, 2008 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ainge = Player
Danny Ainge is just playin with the cards in front of him…
He’s a joke of a GM that got lucky last year with lots of money.
by hotstuffdb22 on Sep 11, 2008 9:18 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
so true.
he was dead in the water until he lucked out big getting garnett and allen. did he make ANY good moves for that team before that?
by avalonzero on Sep 11, 2008 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Danny Ainge is ...
a middle-of-the-road front office executive. Although Ainge is no Joe Dumars or R.C. Buford, he’s at least not Rick Sund, Chris Wallace, Kevin McHale, et al.
by AK1984 on Sep 11, 2008 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
When Walker signed
a day or so after Darius did, it really hurt Miles’ chances. There was a lot of speculation at the time that Darius signed that Walker was going to play overseas for a year, but apparently the Celtics decided to have him as part of the lineup for this season.
Yes, if Cassell signs, Miles looks to be #16. Now, Patrick O’Bryant’s contract is not guaranteed, like Darius’, and theoretically could be cut without significant monetary loss to make room for Darius. But I’m still not worried. I don’t believe that Darius will go back on the Blazers’ team salary figure this year.
by Storyteller on Sep 11, 2008 9:43 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
O'Bryant's isn't guaranteed? It's 2 years, $3.1 million. That sounds pretty guaranteed to me.
by 0004248939 on Sep 11, 2008 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Somebody's been using Hoopshype again.....
No, the best sources on the web tell me that O’Bryant’s contract is 2 years for minimum salary (about $1.65 million total) and is not fully guaranteed. He might have some partial guarantees – I’d have to research further to try and find out – but it’s not fully guaranteed.
by Storyteller on Sep 11, 2008 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"...sources on the web tell me" WHAT?!
Hoopshype salary figures are accurate
by 0004248939 on Sep 11, 2008 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In addition to my site:
http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/celtics.jsp
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/trademachine (look at Boston’s numbers)
http://www.realgm.com/src_tradechecker/1/ (look at Boston’s numbers)
by Storyteller on Sep 11, 2008 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
touche, what is your site?
if you’re involved in this, why are there disparities? Also, RealGM has a strange system, no numbers (don’t copy them).
by 0004248939 on Sep 11, 2008 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's the one Dave always uses. If it's good enough for Dave, it's good enough for me.
http://www.storytellerscontracts.info/
"I think that the team that wins game five will win the series. Unless we lose game five."
Who else? Charles Barkley
by prezofdeath on Sep 11, 2008 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still like using Hoopshype (what am I, Bill Gates?)
by 0004248939 on Sep 11, 2008 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"What am I?"
Shouldn’t the question be “Who am I?”
"I think that the team that wins game five will win the series. Unless we lose game five."
Who else? Charles Barkley
by prezofdeath on Sep 11, 2008 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I use storytellers
fast updates and always accurate. Hoopshype took about 50 years to put Steve Blake’s contract up last season….
RUDY > MJ
by myemic23 on Sep 11, 2008 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
but I realize that this summer has been anything but ‘fast’ in updates. Actually, I’m in the process of preparing for a re-launch of the site with a much better look to it. Hopefully getting that done will allow me to focus more on numerical updates.
Always accurate? I’ll say that I’m always willing to make changes when I learn that errors exist in the numbers – and there have been those. But I think I’ve got most of my ‘guesses’ pretty close. In a few cases, I’ve been able to get official confirmation of the status of certain contracts, so I know those are right.
by Storyteller on Sep 11, 2008 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I usually use you and Shamsports (who recently landed a guest blogger role on DraftExpress)
Is that a good tactic? I guess so.
Hoopshype is nice, but like you said they sometimes miss the point especially on option years and that makes the whole info not very reliable which is the whole point of a salary / cap overview.
Odenied: Asked whether he noticed Oden favoring his right knee, Frye dismissed it entirely. "He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors."
by Norsktroll on Sep 11, 2008 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah don't question storyteller 0004248939! (great name by the way, so creative)
just jiving ya man, but know who your talking to, I don’t even know storyteller, I just know he know’s his ish like I know my beers (tonight it’s No Pity Ale at the Bullpen across the street from PGE park, the timbers last home game, come out one and all! Cheep beers like Broken Halo and even better, Miller lite!
"It's how you play the Ga-ame..." - Greg Oden with Justin Timeberlake at the Espy's
by BlazermaniacAndy on Sep 11, 2008 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My only questioning of Storyteller was what "the best sources on the web tell me" means.
It could have been Bill Simmons!
by 0004248939 on Sep 11, 2008 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL!
No worries from me, BTW. I didn’t take your post as accusatory in any way. I realized that my use of the non-descript ‘sources on the web’ was confusing and I’m glad you didn’t let me get away with such a milktoast comment.
by Storyteller on Sep 11, 2008 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Celtics fans...
Think Darius is the newcomer that will have the greatest impact for them.
http://www.greenbandwagon.com/2008/8/26/601937/new-celtics-poll
Don’t you wish THAT list was our list of newcomers? No?
The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.
by jscot on Sep 11, 2008 10:19 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Green Bandwagon membership terms are specific!
#4: Have fun. Wow, sounds like A Brave New World.
by 0004248939 on Sep 11, 2008 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wowzers
Our poll would include
Greg Oden
Jerryd Bayless
Rudy Fernandez
Nicolas Batum
Stephen Hill
Luke Jackson
They get…uhh….Darius Miles?! Wowwww
"I think that the team that wins game five will win the series. Unless we lose game five."
Who else? Charles Barkley
by prezofdeath on Sep 11, 2008 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would have taken Bill Walker over Darius in his current state by a mile
Walker dropped to the second round because of knee problems. The guy is a mad dunker, still young, and if his shooting gets better he could have a bright future in the league. Giddens is also solid. Boston, you don’t even want Darius.
Odenied: Asked whether he noticed Oden favoring his right knee, Frye dismissed it entirely. "He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors."
by Norsktroll on Sep 11, 2008 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Newcomers.
Usually it’s not a bad thing that half your roster is not new when you won a championship the year before. Both of these conversations could be equally as fun.
“Hey, do you think Rudy and Oden and Bayless will dominate in their rookie year?”
“Hey, do you think Darius could contribute? Remember when we won the championship a few months ago?”
by lukeyhere on Sep 11, 2008 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They also have conversations like this
http://www.greenbandwagon.com/2008/9/11/612119/boston-celtics-sign-doc-ri
It’s funny how the NBA works. For example, it’s not out of the realm of possibility that Cleveland could have won game 7 of the Eastern Conference Semifinals. Hypothetically what happens if P.J. Brown doesn’t hit that shot down the stretch? Or what if the Truth runs out of gas? Of course that is oversimplifying the issue. A lot more went into it. And just because the Celtics did not roll through the first 3 rounds like the Lakers, it does not mean they got lucky. Still, now is as good a time as any to reflect on how much that championship did for Rivers. It enhanced his reputation as a coach and made him a lot of money. You could even make the case that it saved his job.
The road to glory narrow…
Odenied: Asked whether he noticed Oden favoring his right knee, Frye dismissed it entirely. "He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors."
by Norsktroll on Sep 11, 2008 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, the Trailblazers take em in the finals in six.
I told you that already, gawd.
by Blazersaurus on Sep 11, 2008 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which year?
you told me that already? When?
by 0004248939 on Sep 11, 2008 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Question
Waht do you think would happen to the Celtics, if say.. they happened to accidentally play Darius for 10 games in the last minute then he just happened to accidentally get cut… before the 11th game?
Would that be seen as blatent circumvention of the rules?
"Why would we lie to ourselves dude?"
"Be excellent to each other."
"All we are is dust in the wind, dude."
"Strange things are afoot at the Circle K."
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by GreatOden'sRaven on Sep 11, 2008 5:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I fear nobody outside of Oregon would really care
Odenied: Asked whether he noticed Oden favoring his right knee, Frye dismissed it entirely. "He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors."
by Norsktroll on Sep 11, 2008 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure your right about that
Its the kind of soap opera the desperate for copy press workers love now that we are no longer under the radar.
by southern oregon on Sep 11, 2008 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
... off-season soap opera, however.
http://www.myspace.com/y5k
by Y5k on Sep 11, 2008 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you calling this an off-season soap opera?
You might be right.
by southern oregon on Sep 11, 2008 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's like the cheese-predictable set up to an action movie
Oh Rocky’s out of shape, he doesn’t have the fundamentals, he’s too old, he has self doubt … then he overcomes all these set backs and wins.
Blazers version is, of course, too young, injury plagued, bla bla bla …
Cue the music!
http://www.myspace.com/y5k
by Y5k on Sep 12, 2008 5:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Considering...
that the Blazers are trying to sneak out of a monster contract which they signed, reaction (outside OR) would be of cheering and pride.
by 0004248939 on Sep 12, 2008 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huh?
He’s getting paid either way. The Blazers aren’t trying to sneak out of anything. He gets the good end of the deal — fully paid for his Blazer contract, and a chance to make good and earn even more money if he really can still pay. The medical retirement only helped him.
And if the Celtics were to do that, people would rightly think that they just used Darius to stick it to the Blazers, and that it was despicable.
If he makes the team and plays through the year, more power to him. But if he plays ten games for one minute and then they cut him, it will be war between organizations, and Stern will probably have something to say about circumventing the rules before they even try that.
The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.
by jscot on Sep 12, 2008 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In what way is playing Darius circumventing the rules? This isnt't the Church, the last time I checked.
and obviously, they are trying to get out of their SALARY CAP (is that better) contractual responsibilities.
by 0004248939 on Sep 12, 2008 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Salary cap
is not a moral or ethical reality, it is a collective bargaining agreement. And the CBA has specific provisions under which a player’s salary can be removed. Right? Therefore, if those provisions are fulfilled (and they were, to the letter), there is no “sneaking out of obligations”.
Circumventing the rules? The rules say that a team is exempted from their salary cap obligations if those provisions are fulfilled. To play Darius for one minute at the end of ten games and then cut him would be an obvious and intentional circumvention of the rules which allow a team to be exempted.
None of that applies, of course, if Darius actually succeeds, plays through the year, and contributes. It would only be an issue if the Celtics do what GreatOden’sRaven suggested.
The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.
by jscot on Sep 13, 2008 4:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, most of the rules regarding this situation seem to be made for a player making a comeback with his old team
That he comes back with another team didn’t seem to be at the heart of the paragraph in question. So legally this whole situation is pretty uncharted territory. There even might be a chance to request another medical retirement waiver for Darius even if he plays the ten games, but then retires for the same injury.
Odenied: Asked whether he noticed Oden favoring his right knee, Frye dismissed it entirely. "He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors."
by Norsktroll on Sep 13, 2008 5:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope Darius does make a legit comeback
in Europe but I think his chance’s of making an NBA roster are nonexistent.
by southern oregon on Sep 12, 2008 12:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
which sucks.........
he was awsome in Van Wilder….I’m tellin you, AWSOME.
by BroyTheTruth on Sep 12, 2008 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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