Why did we trade for Frye??

by hurryup09 on Sep 10, 2008 12:07 AM PDT

One day he appears to be perfectly healthy--in the best shape of his career. The next he unaccountably has bone spurs requiring surgery. Clearly there's something wrong with this guy. I knew all along we should have kept Zach; why didn't any one listen to me?

Just listen to all the evidence! At his physical, one of Frye's legs measured longer than the other...A Boston sportswriter had said he noticed Frye walking down a hallway and he walked like "an old man"... Even though the Blazers' brass claims Frye's ankles looked "pristine" in a pre-trade MRI, I know they're lying: there were problems with those ankles pre-trade...Just look at how old Frye's sense of humor is! Regardless of his chronological age, I say he has the ankles of a seventy-year-old!

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Is something wrong with Frye?

Definitely: those ankles are trouble and I knew it all along

10 votes

I'm not sure, but this "mystery injury" has me very concerned

14 votes

Hurryup's posts are getting weirder--I guess the dog days are getting to him

187 votes

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Addition by subtraction?

No Text

whaa happen?

by Toby on Sep 10, 2008 12:13 AM PDT 0 recs

Eh.

Getting rid of Zach Randolf was most definitely not a mistake. And Channing Frye is a beast.
No mistakes were made.

by HonestPete on Sep 10, 2008 12:18 AM PDT 0 recs

Um.... What?

You’re juxtaposing Oden’s thing with Frye’s thing? To what end?

by begottenson on Sep 10, 2008 12:20 AM PDT 0 recs

Um... What - right back at you

I don’t see any mention of Oden’s “thing” or anyone else’s “thing”. What are you typing about?

LMA>LA!
LMA's reign as "LaMonster of the Low Post" has just begun!

by LaMarvelous on Sep 10, 2008 9:28 PM PDT up 0 recs

The post is a twist on an observation of ESPN columnist Bill Simmons about Oden

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/blog/entry?id=3017742&name=simmons
Just when I was about to give up, a friend of mine said, “Yo, Oden just walked by.” I scurried down the hallway to see him. Lo and behold, Oden was walking by himself down the last stretch of the hallway, about 50 feet in all, right before the exit to head outside.

And you know what? He walked like a 50-year-old man. His posture was screwed up. He had the Fred Sanford walk going. If you saw him from behind and just studied his walk, you would have thought it was a retired player, someone like Patrick Ewing or Robert Parish. I couldn’t believe it. I didn’t stop talking about it the rest of the night. Greg Oden walked like a guy who had bad knees. If I were Portland’s GM and watched Oden walk across the room, that would have been it for me. The next day, I even called my buddy Sully (who works for the Celtics) just to have the obligatory, “Yo, we might have dodged a bullet May 22; Greg Oden walks like a 50-year-old man” conversation.

If you didn’t get that reference, the humor in this post is of course hard to understand.

Odenied: Asked whether he noticed Oden favoring his right knee, Frye dismissed it entirely. "He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors."

by Norsktroll on Sep 11, 2008 2:43 AM PDT up 0 recs

I wonder what Tom Brady walks like now

Kilroy was here.

by tominhawaii on Sep 11, 2008 2:48 AM PDT up 0 recs

OT: He had limited lateral movement even before this injury

Is his best case now “Tony Romo” when he comes back next season? Or “Dan Marino”?

Odenied: Asked whether he noticed Oden favoring his right knee, Frye dismissed it entirely. "He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors."

by Norsktroll on Sep 11, 2008 3:36 AM PDT up 0 recs

Time for some F&O

Facts:
1) Hurryup wrote that the Hawks made “critical steps” towards future championship contention this past season.

2) Hurryup wrote that Jason Quick is a Laker agent because he is writing personal profiles on Blazer players.

3) At one point this season, Hurryup asked, “Do winning steaks occur in spite of or BECAUSE OF injuries?”

4) Hurryup wanted to buy Frye a home gym and toughen him up; now he wants to trade him?

5) Last season, Hurryup asked,

“Who would you want on the Blazers? Greg Oden’s body with Kobe Bryant’s rapist brain implanted in his skull, or our loveable, high-character GO shrunken by a witch doctor to midget proportions?”

To which all I can say is, “HUH?!?!?”

Opinion:
Dog days are getting to you.

"I think that the team that wins game five will win the series. Unless we lose game five."
Who else? Charles Barkley

by prezofdeath on Sep 10, 2008 12:26 AM PDT 0 recs

I want to change my vote

I said Hurryup’s posts are getting weirder. Pretty conclusive evidence that they actually aren’t….

The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.

by jscot on Sep 10, 2008 1:56 AM PDT up 0 recs

Me too

Seems to be his modus operandi, not an off-season phase.

http://www.myspace.com/y5k

by Y5k on Sep 10, 2008 6:12 AM PDT up 0 recs

crude.... agreed

I really wish I’d read the comments before voting now.

Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624

by ratbastird on Sep 10, 2008 8:40 AM PDT up 0 recs

and crud

Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624

by ratbastird on Sep 10, 2008 8:40 AM PDT up 0 recs

Do you have to order those winning steaks

or can you get them at the grocery store?

hakkaa päälle !

by timg56 on Sep 10, 2008 7:15 AM PDT up 0 recs

I want mine medium rare

LMA>LA!
LMA's reign as "LaMonster of the Low Post" has just begun!

by LaMarvelous on Sep 10, 2008 9:30 PM PDT up 0 recs

Get em scoped, MRIed and CTed before debriefing for the off-season is all I can say

Also, my theory is that injury to Frye is a clever ploy by KP, helping his inept apprentice Chris Wallace in Memphis to get a deal for Zach Randolph done. NY fans and ownership feel less sorry about that deal of Frye + Francis for Zach if they think Francis is useless and Frye has injury problems. Now they try to pull the same trick of making another team believe Zach would win them games with Memphis in a do-over. But their GM only offers them certified busts and wants a pick in return, since Knicks will blow for three more years and are desperate to get under the cap in 2010. Chris Wallace is not that clever on his own. Who told him that? I think making him happy for a few weeks with his new toy Zach and a nice future pick is all part of KPs master plan to get us Mike Conley or Rudy Gay on the cheap. The Force can have a strong influence on the weak-minded…

Odenied: Asked whether he noticed Oden favoring his right knee, Frye dismissed it entirely. "He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors."

by Norsktroll on Sep 10, 2008 12:47 AM PDT 0 recs

Would Zach's trade value be higher if he would have stayed in Portland?

Kilroy was here.

by tominhawaii on Sep 10, 2008 4:21 AM PDT 0 recs

Too bad, even Memphis is onto Zach: Their beat writers feel he wouldn't be good for them

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2008/sep/10/dont-do-it/

Enter the Memphis Grizzlies. You knew that was coming, right?
If there’s a dumb move out there to be made, chances are your local NBA team will find a way to get involved.

Odenied: Asked whether he noticed Oden favoring his right knee, Frye dismissed it entirely. "He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors."

by Norsktroll on Sep 10, 2008 7:00 AM PDT up 0 recs

see my fanshot

http://www.myspace.com/y5k

by Y5k on Sep 10, 2008 7:06 AM PDT up 0 recs

Sorry, yeah it makes for a good fanshot

Odenied: Asked whether he noticed Oden favoring his right knee, Frye dismissed it entirely. "He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors."

by Norsktroll on Sep 10, 2008 7:10 AM PDT up 0 recs

no probs.
Thanks

http://www.myspace.com/y5k

by Y5k on Sep 10, 2008 7:26 AM PDT up 0 recs

man

You have to treat yourself.
Remembering specific comments made about the health of players is not a good sign of mental health. I’m no better either , because I know the players these comments wee about ( Garnett and Oden)

by Falcao on Sep 10, 2008 5:43 AM PDT 0 recs

Uhh, mystery injury? Bone spurs? Pretty minor isn't it?

"People? You man Sheeple."

by Mike-Fu on Sep 10, 2008 9:09 AM PDT 0 recs

Way to steal a Bill Simmons/Danny Ainge story

on Greg Oden and transform it to Channing!

by blazermaniac32 on Sep 10, 2008 9:15 AM PDT 0 recs

Who wrote this, Carrot Top?

by 0004248939 on Sep 10, 2008 10:00 AM PDT 0 recs

OK, time for some explanation

It just struck me that had this same injury happened (ankle bone spurs) to GO, a bunch of fans would have gone off the deep end again, proclaiming it as proof that there was something fundamentally wrong with our prize, our “generational center.” So I resurrected the “one leg longer than the other,” the “he walked like an old man,” the “he LOOKS old, so his knees must be old” arguments (adapted to fit Frye’s ankles).

I thought everyone would get it. I’m jest trying to put Greg’s flukish knee injury into perspective: stuff happens! In fact, stuff happens all the time. Other teams experience it, and so do the Blazers. Frye’s out-of-the-blue ankle injury is just the latest example. Greg will be fine, Frye will be fine, Brandon will be fine, LMA will be fine. The Blazers are headed to the Promised Land, guys & girls, and we’re along for the ride. We just need a bit of faith & patience in order to enjoy that trip.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Sep 10, 2008 10:24 AM PDT 0 recs

And if you are looking for an injury curse, look no further than my fanshot on Omer Asik ;-)

Odenied: Asked whether he noticed Oden favoring his right knee, Frye dismissed it entirely. "He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors."

by Norsktroll on Sep 10, 2008 10:31 AM PDT up 0 recs

**** happens

That last sentence sounded like God’s Pottery not Carrot Top.

by 0004248939 on Sep 10, 2008 10:35 AM PDT up 0 recs

sorry, three sentences.

by 0004248939 on Sep 10, 2008 10:36 AM PDT up 0 recs

I don't know who or what God's Pottery is

But it can’t be worse than Carrot Top! I saw him recently on the Gene Simmons reality show, and he made Simmons seem appealing.

Er: or did you mean “God’s Poetry?”

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Sep 10, 2008 11:37 AM PDT up 0 recs

"God's Poetry?" What the hell? No, God's Pottery, they placed 10th on Last Comic Standing

by 0004248939 on Sep 10, 2008 11:52 AM PDT up 0 recs

God's Potty: You choose

1. Los Angeles
2. Sacto
3. Haiti
4. New York Post/Daily News
5. Medford

http://www.myspace.com/y5k

by Y5k on Sep 10, 2008 11:59 AM PDT up 1 recs

P-O-T-T-E-R-Y, as in crafted work

I’d rather live in God’s Potty than Satan’s buffet.

The point is God’s Pottery is terrible, even worse than Carrot Top.

by 0004248939 on Sep 10, 2008 12:20 PM PDT up 0 recs

Hmmmm

Satan’s Salad Bar or a Saturday in Sacramento … tough choice.

http://www.myspace.com/y5k

by Y5k on Sep 10, 2008 12:39 PM PDT up 0 recs

Have fun

by 0004248939 on Sep 10, 2008 12:48 PM PDT up 0 recs

Stockton California

WINNER

"Why would we lie to ourselves dude?"
"Be excellent to each other."
"All we are is dust in the wind, dude."
"Strange things are afoot at the Circle K."

The Wisdom of Bill S Preston Esquire and Ted Theodore Logan

by GreatOden'sRaven on Sep 10, 2008 5:18 PM PDT up 0 recs

Never watched the show

Not to put down anyone who watches it—or any other t.v. program, for that matter. I endured three seasons of The Bachelor before I put my foot down and told my wife, “No more!” Now, as I’ve already revealed, she’s got me watching Gene Simmons with her. Ughh!

I know what you’re thinking: how henpecked can you get? But one has to pick one’s battles. I got the hi-def plasma when she wanted air conditioning, and I didn’t miss a single Blazer game last season.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Sep 10, 2008 1:48 PM PDT up 0 recs

I have no idea what "Gene Simmons" is but...

I strongly suggest putting down television and those who watch it.

by 0004248939 on Sep 10, 2008 2:01 PM PDT up 0 recs

Here's a hint:

“I wanna rock and roll all night, and party every day …”
Everything else about the man is fairly disgusting and worth avoiding.

http://www.myspace.com/y5k

by Y5k on Sep 10, 2008 2:06 PM PDT up 0 recs

I know WHO Gene Simmons is but...

what relation does he have to television or other recurring visual, does he have a reality show on VH1 like Flavo Flave? ha ha

by 0004248939 on Sep 10, 2008 2:19 PM PDT up 0 recs

Unfortunately, yes he does.

I forget the channel. Not that you’d want to seek the show out. His family can actually be appealing. But there’s way too much boasting by the long-tongued one. Ughhh.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Sep 10, 2008 9:44 PM PDT up 0 recs

Isn't his wife a former soft sex films star from the 80s/early 90s?

Maybe that’s why. I think I zapped into the show once, and then zapped along. Any your wife makes you watching this? Don’t know if you that makes you a more or less lucky man.

Oh, and this all conversation is completely off-topic of course.

Odenied: Asked whether he noticed Oden favoring his right knee, Frye dismissed it entirely. "He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors."

by Norsktroll on Sep 11, 2008 1:16 AM PDT up 0 recs

Is should learn to preview and check for sentence construction, errors and wording

Odenied: Asked whether he noticed Oden favoring his right knee, Frye dismissed it entirely. "He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors."

by Norsktroll on Sep 11, 2008 5:41 AM PDT up 0 recs

Wow

by 0004248939 on Sep 11, 2008 5:05 AM PDT up 0 recs

heck, Carrot Top makes RICHARD Simmons seem appealing.

Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.

"I think it’s going to be very beautiful game next year."
-Nicolas Batum

by rockingharder on Sep 10, 2008 7:31 PM PDT up 0 recs

What a lot of fogeys in here

sheesh, it was obviously tongue in cheek, and the point is valid: minor injuries happen. The injury phobia that currently surrounds this team reminds me of the days when any minor incident set off jail blazer alarm bells. I’m surprised folks aren’t calling us the frail blazers. A good healthy season should shore us all up.

by BrailleTaser on Sep 10, 2008 10:42 AM PDT 0 recs

The Frail Blazers? Wait until the sports media hears that.

Now I’m really going to pray that our players stay healthy.

I shoot layups like they're jumpers.

by MiledAnimal on Sep 10, 2008 10:54 AM PDT up 0 recs

...

Frail Blazers?: See Oden

by 0004248939 on Sep 10, 2008 11:17 AM PDT up 0 recs

I know you're being sarcastic, hurryup...

but we didn’t trade to get Frye.

We traded to get rid of Randolph.

"When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car"

by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Sep 10, 2008 11:04 AM PDT 0 recs

And we got a guy who

Would be an upgrade at the backup 4 spot on almost every team in the league.

by southern oregon on Sep 10, 2008 11:18 AM PDT up 0 recs

Feel free to turn this into a Zach thread

But for the record: yes, I was being sarcastic. I was an early proponent of trading Zach Randolph. The Oregonian published a letter I wrote to that effect about 2/3 of the way thru Zach’s last season with the Blazers.

I didn’t hate Zach by any means. I just felt he was the young Blazers’ “training wheels,” and the sooner he left the sooner they could blossom. (As long as they had his plodding, effective low-post game, the offense would stagnate and the defense would be compromised.) Classic “addition by subtraction”: getting the Buffet of Goodness was just so much gravy.

BTW, my one gripe about Frye—that he needed to get in the gym—is obsolete. Maybe Channing reads BE. (Just kidding.)

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Sep 10, 2008 11:33 AM PDT up 0 recs

being sarcastic

on this site has been banned by Sophia. Otherwise a great post. Keep up the good work.

Fea dis

by bow4meow on Sep 10, 2008 6:31 PM PDT up 0 recs

We traded for Channing because

we where hungry and a buffet sounded good.

"The next day in practice, if you sweat, it's going to come out of your pores, regardless. If you ask any coach around the league how many times they have smelled liquor on a player . . . As long as that player is showing up on time, doing the drills and running, that's part of it. But there have been times, yeah. Yeah, you probably smelled liquor on me. But it's not like I'm at practice drunk. I'm totally focused."
-Darius Miles

by Steve Guttenberg on Sep 10, 2008 11:25 AM PDT 0 recs

Asked and Answered.

Asked and answered – as they say. Frye, having gotten into the gym and being able to focus on the one position that fits his play, PF, is a nice piece that can give the Blazers a lot of quality minutes. Randolph, is just Randolph. The rap sheet, the attitude, his style of play, and the rest.

And, it goes without saying that the team improved when he left – not before. And that pretty much says it all.

Are we better without him than with him? Yes.

Sorry Zach, you haven’t been missed.

by Eben Calder on Sep 10, 2008 11:43 AM PDT 1 recs

My head almost exploded.

by Bedhead on Sep 10, 2008 2:44 PM PDT 0 recs

We only got him so...

when we make our next big trade KP can say “you want Frye with that?”

Little known fact: Rudy Fernandez once roundhouse kicked Chuck Norris in the face while simultaneously dunking on it.

by In Walks Rudy on Sep 10, 2008 6:52 PM PDT 0 recs

Bam!

Secretly, I hope that all GMs make trade decisions to set up elaborate puns.

< /war >

by Diesel10 on Sep 10, 2008 8:30 PM PDT up 0 recs

Then Wallace and McHale once again didn't get it. They blundered the Gay-Love-era before it even started

Odenied: Asked whether he noticed Oden favoring his right knee, Frye dismissed it entirely. "He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors."

by Norsktroll on Sep 11, 2008 1:18 AM PDT up 1 recs

WOW!

This site seems to have been overtaken by folks who love sarcasm and inside humor. Seems like so many posts run for miles with personal inside threads about….Carrot Top.

I really hope this site doesn’t go to the junk heap. There are plenty out there already. My hope is that this site repairs itself to be the most informative, interesting and respected BLAZERS forum out there, as it once was.

by fat27 on Sep 11, 2008 12:11 AM PDT 0 recs

Take it easy man, the biggest news item is Outlaw with Staph infection

by 0004248939 on Sep 11, 2008 5:10 AM PDT up 0 recs

This post should be in the Junk Drawer.

Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.

"I think it’s going to be very beautiful game next year."
-Nicolas Batum

by rockingharder on Sep 14, 2008 10:51 PM PDT up 0 recs

Ok, I get it. It’s early September. It’s pretty fun to go onto Blazers Edge and show everyone you have figured out the trade machine at espn.com. You think that it’s great that you know the names of Blazers and can write about how you know they play for the Blazers. Sorry to be a stick in the mud, but when preseason games start, can we keep the diaries to real Blazer news and information? Go hog wild dropping your trade ideas in responses and say something zany about your favorite player, it’s fun! But when we hit games, I think it would be totally awesome if we kept BS diaries to a minimum. Ideally, zero.

by Bedhead on Sep 11, 2008 12:27 AM PDT 0 recs

hahaha

are you new here?

Joking aside, I think this is a perfectly reasonable post, the point being to remind people that injuries happen and that we should avoid overreacting.
And BE with no BS at all wouldn’t be BE.

by Section323 on Sep 11, 2008 2:33 AM PDT up 0 recs

Thanks Section323--I couldn't have said it better

For those who considered this a “BS” post (hmm—what happened to the supposed civility of this site?), I guess you had to have been aboard BE during the period of GO’s injury and subsequent surgery to understand the references. We had a lot of hysteria going on at that time from “Chicken Littles” who believed the sky was falling. My point was that flukish injuries happen.

But for the record, I wasn’t the one to bring up CARROT TOP!! Not that I minded a bit. If what you’re looking for is “real Blazer news and information,” you can find that @ Oregonlive and the official Blazers site. We like to mix in a little fun here from time to time.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Sep 11, 2008 11:30 AM PDT up 0 recs

I mentioned Carrot Top!

and I stand behind hurryup09!

by 0004248939 on Sep 11, 2008 11:41 AM PDT up 0 recs

Maybe you should stick to "toughness" posts.

Man, the season can’t start soon enough. It’s amazing how riled up people are getting this off season.

I have a huge, but useless, set of wooden genitals.

by tominhawaii on Sep 12, 2008 4:14 AM PDT up 0 recs

No kidding

Wait’ll some of these guys get a load of one of YOUR posts! They’ll go running back to OregonLive in horror.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Sep 12, 2008 9:04 AM PDT up 0 recs

Maybe

The problem is that I mostly write off topic stuff because the on topic stuff is covered. I only wrote my crap on days in the season where there were no games. The off season throws a big ole’ wrench in my game.

I am sure I got on a lot of folks nerves back in the day. I changed my game. I am kind of like Channing Frye; I found a roll that was vacant and tried to fill it. I think I am a lot less annoying than I was when I first chose to follow the way and the blog of Dave.

It’s funny how much this place has changed since I’ve been here. It always makes me wonder what the plank owners think. Sometimes I see myself in some of these young Blazer’s Edgers that join the fray. It is quite a rush to get a response to something you write. People can go overboard before they know it. It is just like erotic asphyxiation, if you can’t control it, it will kill you.

I have a huge, but useless, set of wooden genitals.

by tominhawaii on Sep 12, 2008 2:09 PM PDT up 1 recs